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[Make a Post]>some interesting and unique dynamics
Like what, for example? I can't think of many. It's basically like being in public IRL.
>There are a whole lot of intelligent posters who clearly have experience
>but there are as many or more posters who are completely retarded, idiotic or insane.
I like to think the smartest-sounding ones are faking it, and the retards are just pretending.
>They're usually the same people.
>>8188
For one, lack of consequence and futility of coersion. Unless you are an ascended form of idiotic, you can say anything you want to me and the worst I can do is talk to you. In real life, people can be killed for their words and actions.
That leads into the benefit of non-persistance. I can tell /pol/ I am a millionare Jew and that being Jewish is superior and ten posts will follow telling me to kill myself. One post later I say I don't like black people and not a single person will hate me. You can be the most degenerate, hated scum for an hour and the thread's hero the next.
That is why I heard nanons saying they don't lie on the internet much. There's no motivating threat of reputational damage. That lets us be honest whenever we want. In regular society, it often hurts us to be honest as we have to face the consequences.
To follow that up, there is also equal treatment of opinion. We are all equal in everything except out post content. A black hair-dyed radical feminist tranny could make xir way to the cartoon board and post a nice anime xie always loved. No-one would be able to judge them despite them being the hypothetical nanon's antichrist. That's real meritocracy. Society free of prejudice. The center-left chant for it, and behold, we already have it.
Part of this post is blending the idea of anon culture in as well, but pseudonymity and anonymity are closely linked.
>>8820
That reminds me of an old 4chan saying: a community who derives fun from acting like fools will soon find the company of fools who think they have found home
they were prophets, it would seem
none so insufferable as the perpetuaters of the mutt whore meme
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>retarded, idiotic or insane
Nothing wrong about being insane.
>>8820
Cancerous if you ask me, but I tend to think the same.
Post some examples.
>>8826
>in regular society, it often hurts us to be honest as we have to face the consequences
Depends.
>society free of prejudice
People were raised to live without context. As long as it is beneficial to status quo.
>no motivating threat of reputational damage
>pseudonymity and anonymity are closely linked
That's the price. Although I don't see any motivating threats irl. One can always move and start anew anyway.
Btw where did /pol/pots exodus?
Reminder that if you double post without changing your exit node IP (which tor doesn't do for consecutive requests to the same domain), hakase can read the logs, look for two requests from the same address and connect the dots.
You should also try to space out your posts and check the imageboard stats such that you aren't posting during 0pph across all boards.
>>8826
That's just poe's law rephrased
>>8849
.onion resources don't get accessed the same way as clearnet resources do.
There is no exit node involved. Though I don't know how exactly it happens, i.e. how traceable connections are.
reminder that the new torproject adress is https://2019.www.torproject.org/index.html.en and is no longer accessible via .onion
>>8850
Huh, so that's what it's called, a rendezvous point/node. From what I can tell, it should work about the same as an exit node though, except it connects to a hidden service instead of the clearnet, so the hidden service still sees the IP of the rendezvous node
>>8830
>One can always move and start anew anyway.
For most people, yes, but I don't want all my progress so go to waste. It's not ideal.
>>8817
>>8826
The fact that the platform(nano in out case) does not keep track of your identity doesn't mean that you still don't post following your own personality/ideas, yes you can contradict yourself every post, you can even talk to yourself if you want, by impersonating two posters that hate each other, but most posters don't do that cause it doesn't really make sense for the human brain to do that(unless you are trying really hard to push a narrative or to manipulate users).
>>8849
>>8857
>hapase can read your ip
That's not how Tor works, when you access nano hapase only sees 127.0.0.1, an hidden service cannot see your exit node like >>8850 pointed out(try here http://elfq2qefxx6dv3vy.onion/binfo_check_anonymity.php), nano also does not use cookies or javascript(you should disable all javashit with umatrix anyway) so there's no way of tracking users.
>>>8875
>That's not how Tor works, when you access nano hapase only sees 127.0.0.1
The web server only sees 127.0.0.1. However, the tor daemon sees the IP of the rendezvous node, and with debug logging turned on this information can be gained without modifying the tor software.
Additionally, many people's user-agents and referers are probably not anonymized properly. Combined with rendezvous node information, hapase could theoretically track users across short periods of time.
It is therefore advisable to periodically restart your tor daemon.
>>8879
Hapase has created a situation in which you don't NEED to trust her in order to use full capabilities of the website. Therefore, you should take advantage of that and avoid giving away unnecessary information. In case it's compromised by CIA Niggers in the future, etc.
>>8875
>you can even talk to yourself if you want, by impersonating two posters that hate each other, but most posters don't do that cause it doesn't really make sense for the human brain to do that (unless you are trying really hard to push a narrative or to manipulate users)
Or if you're hapase and desperately trying to increase post count because everyone left the website
t. hapsake
How do you know Hakase, that I'm a marsupial from Bulgaria? Do you spy on us?
>>8826
>real meritocracy. Society free of prejudice. The center-left chant for it, and behold, we already have it.
Don't think they want that. They want so they say "equal opportunity", in practice they want to discriminate against people they don't like for arbitrary religious reasons.
"Meritocracy" is a trigger word for SJW. Of course the reason is the same that "Nazis" have. They know that nigger and mental ill persons are no worth much, a nuisance and potential danger and that jews are colossal over represented in all positions of power and wealth.
>>8936
SJW lost its meaning as much as Nazi. SJW means far left 'kill cis males' tumblrinas. I said the center-left, not far left. Center are the ones who actually want equality and not superiority.
The world ain't binary, kid.
>>8936
>>8949
Equality will always clash with meritocracy, some people are naturally better than others and this will always create disequalities, this goes down deep to the difference of interpretation of the concept of justice and fairness, the left sees equality as fair, the right sees meritocracy as fair(you give more, you gain more). The world is not binary but you either have one concept of fairness or the other, try actually asking people how they define fairness, they're gonna give you different answers.
>>8817
There are even more that roleplay. It's patently clear the people posting in bad faith already outnumber the others.
Places like this create safe havens for people with unpopular opinions and those who value anonymity. You would be surprised how normans react to beliefs that are considered normal or even natural here.
>>9060
This is true. I once wanted to show a normalfag in my computer class, some insights from a nano/g/ discussion (just a single post). "It'll be fine, this post is not about politics!"
Upon closer inspection, I didn't decide to do it because it somewhat implied that pajeets are bad programmers.
>>9064
Strange that [some] imageboards encourage solipism and herd mentality (identity) at the same time.
>>9064
>I once wanted to show a normalfag in my computer class
>in my computer class
>nanochan is Tor only
You have Tor installed in computer class?
>>8849
As long as you don't give out personally identifiable information, it doesn't matter how much you post here.
>>9320
It's maybe true as long as you're very careful about what information can be personally identifiable. In crowd as small as this distinguishing users gets only easier with time, and every little thing counts when you can link it to others.
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Non-persistent identity allows for some interesting and unique dynamics.
There are a whole lot of intelligent posters who clearly have experience and time to think about it, but there are as many or more posters who are completely retarded, idiotic or insane.
You know what they funny part is?
They're usually the same people.
t. hakase