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The Christian Problem Nanonymous No.2404 [D][U][F][S][L][A][C] >>2407 >>2552
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There is a thread in /b/ about this but as expected it's complete shit.

Before you can understand The Christian Problem, you have to understand what christianity is. There is nothing special or original about christianity or any of the abrahamic religions. There are at least a dozen other known religions that came before judeo-christianity and islam which had the same exact origins, because the stories they are based on were the exact same stories that had been passed down through the eons of humanity, stretching back hundreds of thousands of years. These stories describe the movements of celestial bodies, The Sun and the Moon, constellations, comets, and the change of seasons, and Mars and Saturn, but that's a whole other redpill. Every aspect of our ancestors' lives was influenced by what they saw occurring in the heavens.

I recommend this video on astro theology as it is a good primer. You cannot understand religion if you are unaware of its foundations. You also won't be able to see how modern religions have been debased and twisted into secular institutions of social control.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCz_WQ92w20

Now, as far as /pol/ and christianity are concerned, there's no mincing words: christianity is harmful to whites. It's like malware designed for the aryan soul and it is rightfully denigrated across /pol/. Christcucks sperg out because a) they don't have the faintest idea about what their own religion is or how it came to be and are ill equipped to argue even its basic tenets and thus end up looking like retards, and b) they assume that everyone else is a kike shill (often times correctly, but more on that later).

Nietzsche knew christianity was kiked, too.
http://archivecaslytosk.onion/T7qny
>During this time, Nietzsche claimed, the oppression felt by the Jews and early Christians grew to the point at which a new value system—the Judeo-Christian value system—came into being, as a kind of religious and ethical response to Roman domination. Though a single unified system, it carried different emphases for the two groups. For Jews the focus was on self-pity, ethnic cohesion, a thirst for revenge, an obsession with freedom, a hatred of the strong and powerful, and a desire to recover lost wealth. The Christians—through the figure of Jesus—preferred to emphasize the value of the down-trodden (“blessed are the meek”), faith in God to bring justice (“the meek shall inherit the earth”), salvation in the afterlife, and a fixation on love as a means for ameliorating suffering. Arising as it did out of the quasi-slavery imposed by the Romans, Nietzsche deemed this collective Judeo-Christian response a ‘slave’ or ‘priestly’ morality.

With all that being said, christians on /pol/ do have a point about the meta surrounding this debate. Among the anons on /pol/ who argue with christcucks in good faith, there really is a tremendous number of shit flinging shills attempting to drive yet another wedge between whites. They have learned over their years of career imageboard astroturfing that christianity is one of the single most divisive issues for white nationalists. So while I believe that christianity is ultimately detrimental to whites, I don't fault white christians automatically, so long as they are pro white, lead good and moral lives, and don't expect other whites to become christians. They must also agree to gas the kikes.

But here is the sad reality. Most christians I have met, online or in person, are absolutely unable to see past the bible bullshit. Trying to explain niggers or hitler or the jewish question to them is a non-starter. Some of them do get it, but in my experience they are the minority.

Unfortunately, this is all the makings of another brother war, with agnostic or christian white nationalists on one side, and pro-israel civnats on the other. Anons who have a full grasp of the challenges we face are up against civnat zogbots ready to defeat literal nazis. Christcucks unwittingly betraying their own volk is just one contingency kikes are pushing and planning for.

That is The Christian Problem. For the time being, the only solution is continuous, reasoned debate with christians on /pol/ and elsewhere. Inform yourself on all aspects of the topic and treat christians with as much respect you can muster. It is an arduous and thankless task, but for the time being this is what the fight is. The more christians there are that understand the issues from our side, the more unified whites will be.

But make no mistake, whether or not we succeed in educating a sizeable portion of christians before the day of minecraft, I guarantee there isn't a single anon that won't be frothing to fill the gutters with evangelical boomer blood.

Nanonymous No.2405 [D]

>the day of minecraft
What?

Nanonymous No.2406 [D]

Yeah, nah, you're a cunt.

Nanonymous No.2407 [D]

>>2404
>they assume that everyone else is a kike shill (often times correctly, but more on that later)
Not really
The only shills are the alt-kike shills and christianity was part of their agenda
I won't classify other "shills" as shills, because they are extremely obvious and I rather classify this as trolling (as shilling is pushing some agenda)

Nanonymous No.2411 [D]

There are christian organizations in South Africa which refuse to help poor white people and instead only help the blacks.
Also if you were to look at where all the christian aid is going you will find out that even countries with many poor whites who are not taken care of send most aid to Africa.
Christianity has definitely had a huge impact on nonwhite birth rates with all that aid.

But the main problem is that christians just like all christians no matter their race. If anything they are biased against whites.

Nanonymous No.2412 [D]

On Christianity and astro-theology, it's the sun representing God (or the planets representing the angels or Pagan deities), not just having it all be a metaphor for astrology.

Nanonymous No.2413 [D] >>2419 >>2423

Can't we have some "cuckburger general" instead of several cuck posts relevant only to burgers, as christianism was succesfully purged in Europe(not poor parts italy)?

Nanonymous No.2419 [D] >>2421 >>2425

>>2413
>>as christianism was succesfully purged in Europe(not poor parts italy)?

Some parts of Europe like Poland are technically still 80% christian but young people are mostly atheists.
Even then you can't really say that Christianity was truly purged from European civilization. Even if just 5% of the population is christian that is still a massive influence that "white nationalists" could never have.

To put it in perspective even the weakened christian community has more influence than the Klan had at it's peak in 1920's.

Nanonymous No.2421 [D]

>>2419
He's right though. A lot of the "Christians" in Eastern Europe are only cultural Christians. Actual Christianity is a stronghold in the poor parts of Italy (as he said) and Spain. Ireland and Germany less-so.

Nanonymous No.2423 [D]

Good thread. Christians must understand that race goes before faith. Non-Christians must understand that victory goes before ideological purity. These understandings can only be reached through good faith discussion. Shit flinging in either direction is destructive and suspicious. E.g. >>2413

Nanonymous No.2425 [D]

>>2419
To some extent was purged not. We still have monogamous relationships, schools, authoritarian hierachies and other blasphemies.
>massive influence that "white nationalists" could never have
Except they have. Have you missed when shitty reactionaries started controlling eu, french and burger presidential elections, swedish and german elections, cucked kurz down in austria, orbán mongrel in hungary etc?
>To put it in perspective even the weakened christian community has more influence than the Klan had at it's peak in 1920's.
No. What can you unite christians under? Sectarian pakistan/iran-like theocracy? Mike Pences idiotic rambling, irish bigotism?
To put it in perspective in my country christians(authoritarian socialists, like all socialists ever) steadily have 10-15% in elections and we have like 1% of christians, and turnout is usually about 30-40%.

Nanonymous No.2427 [D] >>2431

>as christianism was succesfully purged in Europe
You don't say. What a relief the Big Hat of Vatican is no more, and neither are Russian Orthodox priests KGB officers in retirement.
Christianity is still massive in Europe, among the common folk. If anything, the massive Muslim invasion makes you a Christian in invaders' eyes, whether you like it or not, so there is way more awareness of religion.
The trick is Cucktianity priests exploiting plebs' naivety for nefarious purposes. Or just plain old embezzlement, like Romania building the largest Orthodox temple in Europe while still being a poor Gypsy shithole with permanent human resources drain to Italy and Spain.

Nanonymous No.2431 [D] >>2433 >>2437

>>2427
>russia
Russia is not, never was and never will be part of Europe.
>among the common folk
Absolutely not. Not even in Moldavia.

Nanonymous No.2432 [D]

Yes, good goyim. Divide et impera.

Nanonymous No.2433 [D] >>2506

>>2431
>Russia is not, never was and never will be part of Europe.
Relevant quote from Dugin:
>Everything goes to the beginning of the anti-white pogroms on a planetary scale. Russia saved only by the fact that we are not pure white. Predatory multinational corporations, oppression and suppression of all others, MTV, gays and lesbians – this is the fruit of white civilization, from which it is necessary to get rid of. So I am for reds, yellows, greens, blacks – but not for whites. I wholeheartedly on the side of the people of Zimbabwe.
- Aleksandr Dugin

Nanonymous No.2437 [D] >>2438 >>2443

>>2431
Russia is the literal birthplace of Indo-Europeans, that is most of what constitutes Europe. North Slavs are the closest anthropological type to pure Indo-European stock, genetically, linguistically and culturally. If you would have been a European, it would be akin to denying your own father in his face.
Bah, you are probably a mutt anyhow.

>2433
1. Dugin is a state-sponsored crack-pot.
2. The first anti-white pogrom in history was in Russia 1917. Read the fucking history books.
3. People repeating Jewish-made Russophobic memes from XX century will have their grandkids repeating Jewish-made Westernphobic memes from XXI century.

Nanonymous No.2438 [D]

>>2437
>genetically
They are fuckin savages, just like gooks. And good luck finding some not-balding-in-twenties russian west of ural. slavs are only west of ural Also good luck finding not-balding-in-twenties northern slavs west of russia. Must be nice to be deluded.
>linguistically
While slavic east european languages does have similarities with russian language, they are all different from each other and evolved independently on russian. The split that happened in 8th, 9th century between russians and other slavs is not that big, but big enough to the point non-russian slavs consider russians aliens. except serbs, but that has to do with close ties to kgb politically Russian mentality is also more chink-like than of other slavs.
>culturally
hahah
Have you ever heard of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_style, fucking idiot? Unless you consider russian culture the only european culture, there's no way russians are europeans. More like eurasians if anything, but certainly not europeans.
>mutt
No, but I have serbian/polishI think I have jewish roots from that side resulting in more dignified/esoteric look/moravian roots. Thankfully I have not much in common with "northern slavic purebloods", so I'm not balding and have quite good physical build(muscular/thin, one would say athletic), light-brown hair(I was blonde until 13) and Bajkal-like blue eyes actually, believe it or not.

Nanonymous No.2440 [D][U][F] >>2442 >>2443
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<<2349
<Europeans are not European
>You are a Mutt
<No, but I have X/Y I think I have Z roots from that side resulting in more muttified/mystery meat look/Q roots
So, a mutt.
A vaguely Slavic mutt is so insecure of being surrounded by vaguely Germanic mutts and other Gorilla-American folks he has to pretend how the place he never saw is not hwite.
Go read a history book, nigger. Soviet Past will be American Future. Soviet Mutts - Noviops - were made to be and made fun of even before your muttified father was even born. You are their second attempt at it.

Nanonymous No.2442 [D] >>2445

>>2440
Except I travel a lot (have been in russia, spend few months mainly in Petrohrad in 2013-2014(as it is the only russian city with european heritage, close to finland and also most beautiful russian city), right now live in eastern europe(Bessarabia, god bless Moldovian fertile land) and mutt is person of unknown ancestry. Mixed breeding is not only inevitable, but as long the persons breeding are superior to others it doesn't matter; it's also called selective breeding. I don't advocate for interracial breeding and am opposed to it I'm atracted to black as void skinny gazella-like black girls, but wouldn't consider having a child with some, but can't see any downsides to selective breeding.
>Go read a history book, nigger. Soviet Past will be American Future. Soviet Mutts - Noviops - were made to be and made fun of even before your muttified father was even born.
What?
Also your pic related is bullshit. It's normal listing what your roots are if you are from "mixed" relationship. If you can't list your ancestry/it's not documented, then you are mutt. My family has documented ancestry since 18th century. Don't know if I'm 1/32 russian because I'm not goy enough to pay a lot of money for monetizing my DNA.
sage for you being a fag

Nanonymous No.2443 [D][U][F] >>2444 >>2445
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>>2437
>culturally
I'm going to stop you right there. Want to know why Peter the Great hated beards and made a bunch of reforms? Because Russia was practically a non-European country. After he travelled western Europe (i.e. the Grand Embassy), he saw how their values and customs were so different. He wanted to westernise the country.
>>2440
Russians aren't much better than the Americans when it comes to mixture. Russians are literally a mixture of East Slavs, Finnics, Mongols/Tatars and Yakuts. Novgorodians have even more Finnic mixture, while the rest of Russia is leaning more towards Tatars. Plus, since the Bolsheviks wiped out almost all Russians that were a threat to their regime, they basically left the entire country full of serf-descendants.
Also, the Amerimutt "le 56 face" meme likely comes from the Royal Order of Jesters' Billiken (representing the God of things as they ought to be, or American consumerism and materialism). 56% because it adds up to 11, masonic numerology.

Nanonymous No.2444 [D]

>>2443
>He wanted to westernise the country.
That's exactly the point I was trying to make. The only cultural europeans in russia were of upper-class speaking shit french and trying to imitate french arts tradition and there was a huge backlash throughout 18th and 19th century from both intellectuals and serfs. Europeans looked down on them too. The Empire style is probably the only movement that left significant footprints in russia and influenced their more recent architecture a lot (brutalism).
It's something like trump licking boots of rockefeller-alikes; he tries to fit but will never be accepted.
Russians are not europeans.
>since the Bolsheviks wiped out almost all Russians that were a threat to their regime, they basically left the entire country full of serf-descendants
yes

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>>2442
Don't try to redefine terms, Amerimutt, this is not even Pilpul 101.
A mystery mixture of European refuse has no business telling proper Europeans who's who. I might as well ask an ayyy what he thinks of humans.

>>2443
It seems your understanding of history goes back no more than 300 years ago. Try to set the clock 4500 years ago and take a closer look whence the Indo-Europeans came from, with ALL the culture and genes attached.
Also, this snippet here
>Russians aren't much better than the Americans when it comes to mixture
I'd like you to back that up with something besides words. Like my picrel. Last I checked, 2.5% to 5% is still bellow the 100-56%. Like, an order of magnitude bellow.
>Plus, since the Bolsheviks wiped out almost all Russians that were a threat to their regime
<almost
It is good that your estimates didn't venture into pure bullshit territory. I'll leave it at that, as I don't have more time to spare against ludicrous coping in this thread.

Seeing how Western anti-Russian memes from since XIX century hit the wall of new Paleogenetic evidence is like seeing that V Episode scene of "No, Luke, I am your father" repeat itself over a couple dozen fora and couple dozen thousand participants. The more it goes, the funnier it gets.
At least Luke didn't cope for more than 40 seocnds of screen time.
Eh, it if causes that much coping from 2 centuries old memes, there's little hope of ending Cucktianity memes of kissing invading niggers' feet.

Nanonymous No.2451 [D] >>2453

>>2445
>take a closer look whence the Indo-Europeans came from
First of all, Russians don't come from the Pontic-Caspian steppe like the Proto-Indo-Europeans. All the East Slavs originally lived in Belarus and northern Russia, and then expanded south. Caucasians (from the Caucasus) have a better claim to being "Proto Indo-European" than Russians do, and Hittite mythology is the far closer to the original PIE religion than Slavic mythology. Saying that the Proto Indo-Europeans were "Russians" is like saying that the Britons encountered by the Romans were Anglos.

Nanonymous No.2453 [D] >>2455

>>2451
You still haven't used a single haploshit map to prove any of your points, because they are void and you probably know that a hint of genetic evidence will bust you out. Points as ludicrous as "Caucasians have a better claim to being "Proto Indo-European" than Russians do" holy fucking shit, what terrible Murrican education. Never saw a live Caucasian in your life too.
Speaking of Murricans, have a snippet of a nice essay on Christianism.
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The West, and particularly America, will cease to be Judaic once they leave this Christian bondage and their secular liberal and communist offshoots, once they return to their own deities and once they stop to be what they are not and allow the "Other" to continue what it is. This Judeo-Christian embrace, resulting in a neurotic mutual love-hate relationship, has been going on for too long, and today it has attained its catastrophic peak in the West. This corroborates our thesis about the strong link between Christianity and Judaism, with both being the "proposition myths" of the West. These two beliefs do not exclude each other.

Many white traditionalists and conservatives are correct in denouncing secular myths, such as Marxism and neo-liberalism, which they rightly see as ideologies greatly influenced by Jewish and pro-Jewish thinkers. Yet, they need to go a step further and examine the Judaic origins of Christianity, its multiracial nature, as well as the mutual proximity of these two monotheist religions that make up the foundations of the modern West.

This highly neurotic subject regarding the Gentile -Jewish interaction may very soon result in another conflict.

The frightened attitude of American and European intellectuals, who often extol the concept of "intellectual freedom," is best seen in their servile attitude toward Jews in their proximity, to the extent that the pro-Semite has consequently made himself a mirror image of the anti-Semite. The danger of this fatal embrace lies not with Jews, but with Christians. An American Christian-inspired anti-Semite must appear in the eyes of Jews like a bizarre, silly and specious species. On the one hand he hates his alien Jew; yet on the other, he lugs behind himself Levantine deities, and what is more, this Oriental monotheist mindset that is not white in its conceptual origin. Many American conservatives, and particularly American Christian Zionists, believe in these Oriental stories however silly they may look to Jews.

This also explains why America and by extension the entire West is so enamored with the state of Israel. Geopolitics or natural resources play only a minor role in this equation. Rather, Israel represents an archetype of a pseudo-spiritual receptacle of the Western liberal ideology and particularly its American progeny. Israel functions today as the democratic Super-Ego of the West.

If we were to rid ourselves of liberalism, communism and its multicultural avatars we need first to rid ourselves of the Biblical Christian monotheism. This will lead us to a different apprehension of the world.

Nanonymous No.2455 [D]

>>2453
that's very good, but please provide a source. quotes should also be in greentext.

Nanonymous No.2456 [D]

Oh come one, man, I just tourched the essay in 2 clicks by first 10 words. If I leave a snippet instead of the full-text one would expect some effort spent. Heidenwut has a number of nice essays on American culture and Cucktianity, but also other nice things. What a sweet old fart.
Also long ass posts of 80% greentext are abominable.

Nanonymous No.2460 [D]

>This also explains why America and by extension the entire West is so enamored with the state of Israel. Geopolitics or natural resources play only a minor role in this equation. Rather, Israel represents an archetype of a pseudo-spiritual receptacle of the Western liberal ideology and particularly its American progeny. Israel functions today as the democratic Super-Ego of the West.
Christian Zionism literally never existed until British Protestantism in particular.

Nanonymous No.2463 [D]

>>2445
Read
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/316374816_Drinking_Traits_and_Culture_of_the_Imperial_Mongols_in_the_Eyes_of_Observers_and_in_a_Multicultural_Context_pp_161-172

Nanonymous No.2495 [D] >>2499 >>2506

What a shitshow of fedoras and eurasian dunginists

Quality thread!

Nanonymous No.2499 [D]

>>2495
>dunginists
At least we got a new term

Nanonymous No.2500 [D]

>dunginists
Finally some quality content

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>>2445
Selective breeding was a thing long before nations were invented.
>>2495
You don't seem to get the very point of dugin as quoted >>2433 where he spoke against the degeneracy going by the name imperialism and against fake humanism and capitalism. Scapegoating jews is bullshit when all these degeneracies come from anglophonic and germanophonic cultures, to some extent from italicophonic cultures, cultures considered the pillars of, as referred to today due to globalism, white culture.
While I have nothing but disdain for him, his absolutistic Ideas over Nations seems way better than the other way around.

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>>2506
>Scapegoating jews is bullshit
But blaming jews certainly isn't, let's take a look at MTV for example:
>owned by Viacom Media Networks
>owned by Viacom
>founded by Sumner Redstone
>owned by National Amusements (80% voting power)
>owned by:
> Sumner Redstone (80%)[1]
> Shari Redstone (20%)[1]

Although it is 80% owned by the Redstones (Rothstein), its CEO and initial founder doesn't seem to be one:
>The original programming format of MTV was created by media executive Robert W. Pittman, who later became president and chief executive officer (CEO) of MTV Networks
But a CEO is appointed by its owner, Sumner Redstone, so if Pittman does something that goes against Redstone's wishes he'll be outed in an instant.

>all these degeneracies come from anglophonic and germanophonic cultures
Please name a few and we'll look into it, I'm quite sure all this is very jewish indeed.

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>>2507
>predatory multinational corporations
ultimate foundation of modern usa(1880s and culminated in late 1970s)(I don't see any jewsih connection in, say, foundation of rail monopolies and oil monopolies, eg coca-cola has turkish ceo and was founded by white man, monsanto was founded by semi-spic and bought by bayer, which is almost exclusively white corpo and I could continue) You seem to vastly overestimate what possibilities jews had in past, as they were despised and ostracized by almost everyone, they started being really relevant with hollywood, invention of entertainment industry and hitlerism.
Dig something on East India Company and Dutch East India Company.
>oppression and suppression of all others
I don't have to prove that.
>MTV
American population consumed it therefore it's mostly their creation. It wasn't forced on them and isn't requirment like eg mobile.
>gays and lesbians
Agree, 80s jewish creation willingly used by white governments and put in movement by both negroes and american whites, deliberately created as diversion along with immigrantion, balkan hotpot, middle east and terrorism so they can destabilize and subvert not only any meaningful debate, but any opinion and any ethics/morality/cohesion for the sake of muh borders/minorities/security/freedom/democracy.

Give me reason why should I blame jews any more than serfs.

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>>2508
>rail monopolies and oil monopolies
I have less issue with that then say media or banking monopolies
>coca-cola has turkish ceo and was founded by white man
A white person making a crappy drink that become too fucking popular, okay.
>monsanto was founded by semi-spic and bought by bayer, which is almost exclusively white corpo
Good example of Europeans being involved in providing other Europeans with shitty products.
>[jews] were despised and ostracized by almost everyone
And why do you think that is?
>they started being really relevant with hollywood, invention of entertainment industry
They were very influential in creating it, yes.
>hitlerism
Are you saying Hitler(ism) was a jewish creation? Please provide further information if you have it, I know Hitler's half-sister Angela Hitler was "manager of Mensa Academia Judaica, a boarding house for Jewish students".
>Dig something on East India Company and Dutch East India Company.
Haven't looked into that, I'll do so.
>[Europeans are involved with] oppression and suppression of all others
I'm not against people who have different opinions if you are able to provide facts and not dismiss facts provided to you. I'm wondering though what are you doing on /pol/ ?
>I don't have to prove that.
Yes you do, the media making you feel that that is true doesn't make it true. At all.
>Give me reason why should I blame jews any more than serfs.
I certainly blame the creators of Marxism, Communism, Bolshevism, Usury Capitalism, Freemasonry more than I do those that are forced to adopt it or do it naively so.

Pic attached is related to jewish control of Freemasonry.

Nanonymous No.2510 [D] >>2516

>>2508
>Dig something on East India Company and Dutch East India Company.

>Isaac De Pinto, a Jew of Portuguese origin who in 1748 became a director of the Dutch East India Company
https://jewishcurrents.org/jewdayo-grid/august-14-isaac-de-pinto-and-the-dutch-east-india-company/

>However, as the influence and power of the Dutch East India Company grew, the Jews gradually bought up its shares, and by the end of the 17th century became the principal stockholders in Holland, controlling a quarter of its stock. In the middle of the 17th century, the relief and sustenance of the needy Jews of Amsterdam was obtained by a communal tax on the Jewish shareholders in the East India Company, which formed a principal source of income of the community in that period and for many years afterwards.”
https://jewishcurrents.org/jewdayo-grid/june-3-the-dutch-east-india-company/

>The first Jews arrived in Indonesia in the 17th century, as part of the clerks and traders operating the large commercial company “Dutch East Indian Company” (VOC). The company, which focused its activity in Asia in the Indonesian archipelago, initiated wars, constructed fortresses and signed agreements throughout Asia, was liquidated in 1800; all its assets, which included most of the area of the island of Java and part of the other islands, were taken over by the Dutch and became a colony named the Dutch East Indies.
https://theindoproject.org/the-jewish-population-of-the-dutch-east-indies/

>In particular, we sought to find out the truth about Jewish involvement in the slave trade. At Albany, Jeffries said that rich Jews financed the slave trade: "We have the names, we know who they were, what they were, what they controlled. We know when they set up the Dutch East India Company, the Dutch West India Company, the Portuguese company, the Brazilian company."
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1992/2/12/jews-and-the-slave-trade-just/

I'm barely scratching the surface here.

Nanonymous No.2515 [D]

>>2508
>it's not the jews
plebeian worldview tbh

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>>2509
>And why do you think that is?
Because butthurt christians and fact that jews are nomads.
>hitlerism a jewish creation
No, no at all, but his scapegoating of all jews, all intellectuals and some minorities(btw third reichs view on Sorbs is really retarded) and anyone with different opinion than his(meaning him and his clique immediately turning from revolutionary stance to explicitly contrarevolutionist stance, thus revealing his true reactionary colors), not only capitalistic swines, bankers, other rich exploiters etc and merely transferring the means of existence to few faggot "pureblooded" magnates instead of transferring them to Volk has largely played in their cards and the mass emigration of west-european jews to usa played a big role too(along with emigration of almost everyone who would get killed under hitler) in post-ww2 white world.
America being sectarian/protestant and money-obssessed only helped it as the existing estabilished wealthy people saw a big opportunity to exploit a really big mass of people coming from heavily industrialized europe with really big inæquality problems and somewhat used to obssessive/restrictive laws and partly chauvinistic overlords and don't forget that wealthy west-european jews brought their wealth and existing structures. The fact that all jews were targeted in large part forced jews into politics as it was the only way to prevent any future pogrom. Combine it with butthurt superpowerful jews loving money and not liking whites for pursing their grandpas for 1900 years, superpowerful whites wanting to castrate whole population in order to brainlessly serve them and you have today.
Also what may be of interest to you is documentary "Hitlers Hollywood" by Rüdiger Suchsland, I haven't seen it but the similarity between hollywood propaganda machine and goebbels propaganda machine they try to point out seems rather clear and aesthetics were and are very big part of natsoc.
Filmmaker Rüdiger Suchsland suggests that the Third Reich was essentially an immersive movie starring the German nation, produced and directed by Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels. Hitler’s Hollywood collages key films from the more than 1000 features the Nazis produced from 1933-1945: musicals, melodramas, romances, costume dramas, war films – and when the real war got tough, insanely lavish, over-the-top fantasies. The German volk were portrayed as happy and sporty with lives of exaggerated cheerfulness or, conversely, full of morbid yearning for a death that would serve the Fatherland. Hannah Arendt gives perspective and context: “One of the chief characteristics of modern masses… (is) they do not trust their eyes and ears, but only their imaginations. What convinces masses are not facts, not even invented facts, but only the consistency of the illusion.” It’s a frightening insight that could just as easily apply to the American political landscape today. – Karen Cooper, Film Forum
>Mensa Academia Judaica
Btw Mensa "is the largest and oldest high IQ society in the world". I'm probably on their list as I was tested by their local branch few years ago, doesn't really matter tho
>if you are able to provide facts
This is common knowledge so I don't feel like I should provide facts as our entire white history is proof of it. We, white people, are conquerors, usurpers, tyrants, always trying to reach higher and conform others to our will, shape things the way we like it. Why do you think we were the first among totally civilized? Because we hated nature, we hated that we don't control, our surroundings. It's our very nature and the reason why we are dominant race.
>media
What media?
I very rarely visit techdirt and soylent news and that's it.
>I certainly blame the creators of ...
I don't, each invention came with something that can be used in reasonable and good way.
>that are forced to adopt it or do it naively so
What is guerilla warfare and what are numerous succesful revolts and two succesful revolutions.
>>2510
Don't get fooled, every king and state-monopoly at the time and earlier times were supported by bankers, jewish or not, and when they didn't have money to pay back or something, they just purged some jews, threaten them etc. They had no real power other than finacial which became more significant only after secularization and kings had Tian Ming in some countries up to 20th century. I very much doubt jews played any truly significant part in it other than some financing, which like I said, was completely normal.

Nanonymous No.2517 [D] >>2518

>>2516
Thanks for your response, though I still wonder why you think jews were "persecuted" so much throughout history, you think it was just because of jealousy or something?
>What media?
The mainstream media, that influences the majority of the Western world at the moment. I'm quite certain that's highly controlled by jews as well.
>manager of Mensa Academia Judaica, a boarding house for Jewish students
This is a specifically jewish Mensa. I know about Mensa by the way.
>Because we hated nature, we hated that we don't control, our surroundings
This sounds ridiculous, it's very natural for Man to subdue its environment. And I'm not sure what you consider yourself to be and how you really feel about European peoples, you don't seem to positive about the Europeans.
>each invention came with something that can be used in reasonable and good way.
I disagree wholeheartedly.

Nanonymous No.2518 [D][U][F] >>2521 >>2524
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>>2517
>because of jealousy or something
Look at it that way. Their god is cruel, unforgiving and completely superior to christian vision of god. Jews are nomad merchants, quick and witty, much like phoenicians and carhaginians, and combine both life realism with useless wisdom, usually unhindered by what's in fashion, deeply rooted in their mummificated old teachings and traditions which they had to preserve otherwise they would shatter judaism as they were all over the eurasia, north africa and middle east(their ways of life were distinct to some extent, but not to the point they would feel alienated being near to jew from differernt part of the world), don't fear bigger enemies and tend to be cruel to them like assyrians, as depicted in old testament. Due to their nomadic nature and hatred by christians they were forced to learn how to adopt themselves without losing faith and identity as it was their life requirment. Not that much Ashkenazim that were living segregated.
They also don't know concept of nationality(Israel is much more safe-haven than true national/theocratic state, and also american sponsored destabilizing factor in middle east btw kibbutzes are pretty interesting) and seem to me much more like purely spiritual beings considering whole world their home, which is why eg nietzsche despised jews.
The bankerism and high-value trading was much more likely symptom of persecution rather than cause imo, as some felt it's easier to ammas money and then support those who are poor instead of trying to stick together in non-shadowy which would lead to repressions and deportations, also bankers usually functioned as lobbyists for non-adoption of anti-jew laws and as barriers against needless scapegoating, at least from what I know in Portugal they did in 14th-16th century.
>it's very natural for Man to subdue its environment
To white man. Not that much to, say, chinese, Khmer, Mayan or Mukongo man.
>you don't seem to be positive about the Europeans
The modern world, industrialization, manufactures, further alienation and protonationalistic attitude that resulted in inabilty to even try to scratch the surface of non-white cultures(except very shallow obssession with japanese culture in 20th century) is not very close to me.

Nanonymous No.2519 [D] >>2521 >>2527

>>2506
>Scapegoating jews
Are you serious? Were do think you are, reddit or TV?
Since the jews are such an innocent community they need to be protected with the most brutal means and censorship, I get?

We talking about a guy from Russia, Dugin, were the most obscene mass murder by a jew regime happened.

>when all these degeneracies come from anglophonic and germanophonic cultures, to some extent from italicophonic cultures, cultures considered the pillars of, as referred to today due to globalism, white culture.

OK, I talk to a jew, the wrecking job you did on the Russians, they have not recovered from and probably never will. Resulting in one of the most degenerated, God less and amoral region (Ex-SU) the world has seen. No amount of fake piety by that KGB types and fake orthodoxy window dressing can cover that up.

Meanwhile the current regime in Russia is pushing islamification and the moslim do show their new found power. 500 years after Ivan broke the Tatars of Kazan, did they build a new mosque straight on the site of the historic Kremlin of Kazan. That is like if the moslims had build a mosque in the park of Versailles.


>>2508
>predatory multinational corporations
Its the fault of an abstract concept, not the jews, comrade!

>You seem to vastly overestimate what possibilities jews had in past,
Sassoon dindu nuffin

>>2516
>Because butthurt christians and fact that jews are nomads.
Dindu nuffin and all this different people over millennias are just for inexplicable reasons (we are not allowed to discuss in public) sooo anti-semitic.

>not liking whites for pursing their grandpas for 1900 years

Meanwhile the Jews in the region of Cyrene had put one Andreas at their head and were destroying both the Romans and the Greeks. They would cook their flesh, make belts for themselves of their entrails, anoint themselves with their blood, and wear their skins for clothing. Many they sawed in two, from the head downwards. Others they would give to wild beasts and force still others to fight as gladiators. In all, consequently, two hundred and twenty thousand perished. In Egypt, also, they performed many similar deeds, and in Cyprus under the leadership of Artemio. There, likewise, two hundred and forty thousand perished.


Nanonymous No.2521 [D] >>2527 >>2531

>>2518
Thanks for showing your true colors, though nothing you just said I can agree with, do you really think your philosemitic sentiment is wanted on here or considered politically incorrect?

>>2519
Thanks for your input.

Nanonymous No.2524 [D] >>2527

>>2518
did the holocaust happen? yes or no.

Nanonymous No.2527 [D][U][F] >>2539
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>>2519
You are redditor. Clearly.
>>2521
>Do you really think your philosemitic sentiment is wanted on here or considered politically incorrect?
You asked me what's my opinion and I presented my opinion. I merely acknowledge who jews are, respect their culture and feel no hatred towards them. I see them as symptom of americanism and capitalism, not as defining factor. which makes me straßerist I guess
>>2524
As in 6 millions? No.

Nanonymous No.2528 [D] >>2529

>>2516
>Because we hated nature, we hated that we don't control, our surroundings
More like (((we))). A specifically urban and alien type of (((we))) dead afraid of country life.

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>>2528
You can't deny historical attitude of white man and you also ultimately fail to understand why cities existed.
What you are describing are mongrels who have their life backuped on onedrive, symptom of stockholm syndrome.
And this is rather myopic view of it, I didn't imply in any way that it resulted in cities etc have you ever heard of term "cultural landscape" and the definition of it that applies nicely on white people(and east-asians) ""A landscape designed and created intentionally by man", negro?

Nanonymous No.2530 [D]

How often do you think atheist jews spend freaking out about and attacking their religious jews?

Nanonymous No.2531 [D]

>>2521
>Do you really think your philosemitic sentiment is wanted on here or considered politically incorrect?
But I almost entirely agree with him. National-socialism is not only about blaming the Jews for everything.

Nanonymous No.2532 [D] >>2533 >>2549

>>2529
>You can't deny historical attitude of white man
Yep. And the historical attitude is Sustainable Agriculture. Undeniable.
The absolute terrible treatment of nature coincides with maximum Communism and maximum Capitalism, both kikish regimes that overexploit the land for minuscule gain, both fueled by animosity of Christians and Jews to nature. It is also less than 100 years old, which compared with 6000 years of Indo-European culture is nothing but a fad. And Paleoeuropeans weren't hostile to nature either, so add another 6000 years, lol.

<and you also ultimately fail to understand why cities existe d I didn't imply in any way have you ever heard that it resulted whah whah whay youre a negro
Some much pretentious noise because I wrote just 3 words? You first ventured outside Reddit or what, wimp, contain your insecurities.

European man loves nature, it is his natural habitat he has been conditioned to tend to for six thousand years at a minimum. Only a single alien subculture in Europe hated nature because it couldn't survive outside of big cities of Italy it got born in, because you can't leech of agrarian freemen.


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>>2532
>sustainable agriculture
>agriculture
>domestication
>europeans are not hostile to nature
Nice try.
>The absolute terrible treatment of nature coincides with maximum Communism and maximum Capitalism
You are terribly focused on symptoms.
>fueled by animosity of Christians to nature
Have you ever tried to understand why it was adopted?
>nothing but a fad
No.
>agrarian freemen
Cease living.

Nanonymous No.2534 [D] >>2535

>>2533
>has no argument and tells people to kill themselves
Nice try.

Nanonymous No.2535 [D]

>>2534
No, it would require me to write lenghty blogpost which I don't won't to write and even then, what good would it be for someone whos belief is that whites are no better than negroes while at the same time idolize whites, focuses like true reactionary natsoc on symptoms, mistakes culture with "culture" and mixes multiple things as if there was connection between them or were relevant?

Nanonymous No.2537 [D] >>2554 >>2571

You reek of insecurity. Of course you wouldn't dare to write anything that can possibly happen to be wrong, you are unaccustomed to anonymous debates because being wrong might hurt your precious ego-image and you don't like hurt, eh?
I provided my argument. I said that Europeans had sustainable agriculture mindset coming from their pagan beliefs of sanctity of nature and human ties to it. And my argument stands, calling me a negro doesn't challenge it in any way.
Now I shall expand my point of view and argument, because I am not afraid of expressing view that might be wrong, who knows. I am not afraid of strangers, like some redditcuck, lol.

The forest is a spiritual place for both Europeans and North Indians, because they are surrounded by forests that provides endless sustenance and fuel if you tend to it well. They also provide solitude for those who seek it, the folk culture of Europe is full of people who voluntarily lived innawoods as freemen seeking ultimate liberty and self-reliance or spiritual quest.
Hostility to Nature is a specifically Middle Eastern-Egyptian trait of people stuck in a stinky swamp between two burning deserts. They had their reasons to congregate in big ass cities to use the strength of numbers to maintain the irrigation canals. Neither they had forests or any use for them, so it stuck in their mentality, to wage war against barren Nature that ever tries to kill them with a dust bowls or salted soil or spring flood. The only solitude was in the desert, an accursed land of unseen devils and efreets that drive you insane with dry heat and wind. No springs to drink, no berries and nuts to forage, no game to hunt, no honey to collect, only fucking sand. Thorny bushes and wild asses at best.
Your attitude is hostile to European mindset, it is a Middle Eastern aberration, because I presume you are not from the Middle East hence have little reason to hate and fear Nature, unless you got Christcucked so bad you became an aberration to Mother Nature to be corrected.
Oh yeah, correction. Another point. Nature disposes of weakness. Weak men are afraid of the wilds, because they will fucking die there, horribly at that. They know it and they despise themselves for their weakness. But as the strongest enemy is your vice, they'd rather cowardly crow in their stinky conglomerates of ferrous concrete and filthy wagecucks and despise Nature from a safe distance than call themselves out on their fear.

Nanonymous No.2539 [D] >>2551

>>2527
you have a college freshman tier understanding of history and world affairs. all the peoples and cultures are just generic players in a game of risk to you with nothing special or significant about them. you pilpul over the figure of 6 million but fail to admit the significance of a hoax of that magnitude being believed by 99% of the western world.

Nanonymous No.2549 [D] >>2554

>>2532
>>2529 >You can't deny historical attitude of white man Yep. And the historical attitude is Sustainable Agriculture. Undeniable. The absolute terrible treatment of nature coincides with maximum Communism and maximum Capitalism, both kikish regimes that overexploit the land for minuscule gain, both fueled by animosity of Christians and Jews to nature. It is also less than 100 years old,

Agriculture in Europe is shaped for at least a thousand years by Christianity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weihenstephan

> which compared with 6000 years of Indo-European culture is nothing but a fad.
It is a fad to claim some ancestry one can not trace back. Your claims are on the same level of insight then the new age shit and that shit was and is a jewish desinfo.

Your blabbering is really nothing but a variant of Rousseau’s “Noble Savages”, kitsch, that is still so popular with the “refugee welcome” and third-world-solidarity freaks.

Really your hatred for traditional Europe, that includes Christianity, is on the same level as with the Left, that want to destroy all remaining of it with much the same “arguments”.


Nanonymous No.2551 [D]

>>2539
<An anonymous fag estimates my education via text snippets from over 12000km away
What a decisive argument, how can I ever recover.
Anyway I don't care about your worthless opinions, I post counterpoints for other folks here, lest they might be led astray by your kikery.

Nanonymous No.2552 [D] >>2554

>>2404
>Most christians I have met, online or in person, are absolutely unable to see past the bible bullshit.
I think you've oversimplified. What Christians are unable to see past is not the Bible bullshit; it's the modern, progressive interpretation of the Bible bullshit. Bible bullshit in and of itself isn't harmful; as a moral basis or set of principles for how to conduct oneself and produce a functional, harmonious society it is actually fairly sound. Where Christianity has fallen apart is solely in its modern interpretation. In the context of a racial in-group and racially homogeneous society, the context in which I believe any Bible text should be interpreted, given that humans lived that way for millennia up until jewish post-modernism, the commandment "love thy neighbor" means exactly that: treat your racial brother well. Instead, this message has been bastardized, corrupted into something other than its original intent, and in modern Church teaching is used to undermine racial solidarity in White populations. There are many, many such examples of bastardized interpretations; interpretations so wildly different that they are today in complete opposition to the initial teachings of the Bible (e.g. on faggotry).
We'll never win Christians over by arguing that their faith is shit. Instead, we need to work with their faith, not against it, and illustrate to them the many ways in which Christianity has been corrupted into a form where it literally attacks itself. I'm fairly certain there are a lot of good Christians out there that are aware of this; but like all of us feel isolated and unable to talk to anyone about it.

Nanonymous No.2553 [D] >>2555

>>2516
>Because [Whites] hated nature, we hated that we don't control, our surroundings. It's our very nature and the reason why we are dominant race.
That is such ass backwards kike projection. Holy shit, I don't think it's actually possible for you to be any more jewish.

Nanonymous No.2554 [D][U][F] >>2555 >>2559 >>2560 >>2568
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>>2537
>animosity of Christians and Jews to nature
>The forest is a spiritual place...
Why do you think christianism was adopted evenly by both agrarian "freemen" and city dwellers, by both elites and plebeians, although for slightly different primary reasons and why do you think there was church while judaism is decentralized? (I don't take "it was da joos" argument)
Because instead of treating nature as sacral place and ordering individuals to give nature symbiotic treatment out of fear christianism clearly told that everything what's on Earth is humans, people are the lords of everything that is. Just btw what are saints if not local gods?
There's no direct animosity towards actual nature in bible, only that it's treated mostly like means provided by God. From there on it's only your choice if you will follow your instincts or try to subdue what you can, hence why christian-anarchism was thing and many christianity branches had christian-anarchism views. Most of those branches were purged and it was rediscovered in 19th century, eg tolstoy, thoreau, stirner and nietzsche, who literally preached what christianism(monotheism) was stepstone to, agnostic spiritualism replacing god with (you), or as humanists preached earlier, replacing god with human and ideals.
Anyway, it would be something else than christianism that would function as catalyst for white nature, looking at what terrific conquests did Alexander and Romans who selectively took gods of conquered tribes as their servants(btw I'm not trying to throw everyone in one bag as I consider northern europeans homines novi, "in former days, there was a tribe who knew no laws nor manners ... These men are nobles, now, the gentlemen of old are now the trash" which caused christianism to end up as bigoted as it was and subsequently caused dark ages which ended with italics rediscovering hellenism, tradition destroyed by germanics, and considering that mediterranean european nations were much more progressive and eastern roman empire as well despite eastern roman empire being theocracy and half-slavic and mediterranean european nations being pioneers of secularity despite being in close proximity of church), germanic tribes, celtic tribes and slavic tribes ruthlessly conquering all others, always trying to spread, expand, infect while not being sustainable in any way as they were primitive fags who couldn't control nature, had negro-like tribalistic structures and almost every new generation had to march elsewhere. Christianism wasn't defining factor in creating white man as we know him, as it was only further enablement of white nature.
>freemen seeking ultimate liberty and self-reliance or spiritual quest
You don't have to tell me, as it was and is thing in eastern slavic cultures and very vital point of orthodox christianity. Also huge part of it is conqueror, tyrant spirited too. You conquer yourself, you take what nature didn't give you direct access to, hid to you and your own humanity chained.
>provides endless sustenance and fuel if you tend to it well
And provide even more if you culture them and shape them, meaning you can do more things, develop other traits, don't have to rely that much on weather etc.
>their reasons to congregate in big ass cities to use the strength of numbers to maintain the irrigation canals
And we had ours. Cities were cultural and trade centres, functioning as hotpots for shared knowledge.
>your attitude is hostile to European mindset, it is a Middle Eastern aberration
I'm influenced by Plato and your attitude is hostile to humanity.
>Nature disposes of weakness.
Funny you say it.

The very basic entry-level-nationalist point you make is shifting all that your adored northern white people naturally are to external influences while putting on piedestal savagery and culturelessnes. That is college freshman natsoc wannabe attitude who just discovered pagan cucks, silly aesthetics and that thought is not required for writing on nanochan.
>>2549
>“Noble Savages”
>it is a fad to claim some ancestry one can not trace back
yes
>>2552
That's some high-level revisionism.

Nanonymous No.2555 [D] >>2556

>>2554
>Why do you think christianism was adopted evenly by both agrarian "freemen" and city dwellers, by both elites and plebeians

Aryan sun-myths the origin of religions; (1889)
>by Titcomb, Sarah Elizabeth, 1842-1895
https://archive.org/details/aryansunmythsori00titcrich

>while judaism is decentralized

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qahal

200 Years Together (2002)
>by Alexander Solzhenitsyn
https://archive.org/details/200YearsTogether

>>2553
It definitely is projection, jews are the most anti-Nature people there are.

Nanonymous No.2556 [D] >>2557

>>2555
>Aryan sun-myths the origin of religions
I'm not going to read book you want me to read just so I can prove you otherwise and I generally hate to read books written by women.
>qahal
Proves my point.
>200 Years Together
And?

Nanonymous No.2557 [D] >>2558 >>2568

>>2556
>Proves my point.
No it doesn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kehilla_(modern)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Isra%C3%A9lite_Universelle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%27nai_B%27rith

>I'm not going to read book
To summarize, the early Christianity had a lot of similarities with the religions, traditions and beliefs of the Aryan people

I'm still not sure what you're trying to achieve, make us hate our race, our history, our traditions, and worship our jewish overlords?

>And?
Explains how judaism is (still) very centrally controlled and a lot more.

Nanonymous No.2558 [D] >>2561 >>2568

>>2557
>what you're trying to achieve, make us hate our race, our history, our traditions
Yes. Northern "based gods" are marauders and leechers compared to mediterranean rooted and secure nations who literally gave civilization to the barbaric fags who malformed it and put the knowledge to stop for thousand years.

Nanonymous No.2559 [D] >>2568

>>2554
>undoing revisionism is revisionism
Your jew-jitsu doesn't work here, kike.


Nanonymous No.2560 [D] >>2562

>>2554
you impress no one with your pointless and meandering knowledge dumps which have little to do with this topic. your inability to hide your jewishness is also pretty funny.

Nanonymous No.2561 [D] >>2563 >>2565 >>2568

>>2558
What does a Jewish god and his Jewish son have to do with the meds? All religions are stupid but it makes more sense to know the gods your ancestors worshiped as that is a part of your history and culture.

Anyone who shills for Christianity has to explain what are we going to do with millions of kike worshipers who will think that Jews are God's chosen people due to reading bible.

Nanonymous No.2562 [D] >>2564

>>2560
He impresses me. He's perhaps the best poster on this site so far. I hope he continues posting, despite the hate of retards.

Nanonymous No.2563 [D] >>2565

>>2561
>Anyone who shills for Christianity has to explain what are we going to do with millions of kike worshipers who will think that Jews are God's chosen people due to reading bible.
Most people who become Christian Zionists do it through reading Protestant Bibles or reference Bibles like the Scofield Bible (written by a crypto-kike). Many don't even read it at all, and just listen to Evangelical boomer pastors. Christian Zionism literally never existed until the 19th century and specifically among British/American Protestants, and was heavily popularised in America as a GI Gen/boomer phenomenon. Christian nationalists in general DO want boomer Evangelicals removed.

Nanonymous No.2564 [D]

>>2562
A kike and a samefag. You're not welcome here.

Nanonymous No.2565 [D] >>2568

>>2563
>>2561
>Anyone who shills for Christianity has to explain what are we going to do with millions of kike worshipers
>heavily popularised in America as a GI Gen/boomer phenomenon. Christian nationalists in general DO want boomer Evangelicals removed.
All this hysteric huffing and puffing “what Christians are”, “what they are supposed to believe” and “do”, comes from the (((USA))) of the drive-in-churches and “success-theology” of completely up-rooted people that have no frame of reference in any European culture.
This is a country were some Free-Manson can create a new “Christian” denomination as a practical prank, the Jehova’s Witnesses, were a pseudo-jewish, pseudo-mohammedan cult of self worship and self-idolatry (they believe they become Gods), Mormons is considered “conservative”.

You have to excuse Europeans that think you, that includes the boorish, uneducated anti-christian shills that are no jews, are mad as a hater.
That said, all that theological confusion and hysteria can ultimately traced back to the jew. Very calculating one that know to push your buttons, even if their own cult is in its own right a crazy cult that has very little to do with ancient hebrew beliefs ancient hebrew that still were insufferable faggots.


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>>2557
not >>2558 but >>2554
>No it doesn't.
It does. Having a Roman Church and Holy Roman Empire as a degenrate imitation of Roman Empire endorsing tribalistic feuds and being centralized by design in completely riddiculous and corrupted way is cleary different from Quahals which had smaller jurisdictions. They were something like diœceses at best I think with no central central authority at all. You also seem to interconfuse centralization/unity/control However, rich and powerful individuals gradually began to dominate qahals, abusing their position for their own benefit. As a result, by the 18th century, many ordinary Jews had begun to clamour for the abolition of the institution.
>what you're trying to achieve
That's up to you.
>make us hate our race
No.
>our history
History is history.
>our traditions
Did I spoke against any of them?
>worship our jewish overlords
I hate porkies.
>>2558
No to yes part and yes to latter part.
>>2559
>in the context of a racial in-group and racially homogeneous society, the context in which I believe any Bible text should be interpreted, given that humans lived that way for millennia up until jewish post-modernism
Revisionism.
>love thy neighbor
In ecumenic bible our ecumenic council did and in the national proestantic bible the "neighbor" is translated as "bližní" which means someone with the same or similar values and morals, therefore christian (and can mean someone blood-related too, but that would go against christianity and against your white homoglob too). What you say is that every nation should have their own church treating other christians in non-christian way, or worse, white church forcing eg ukranians to treat germans as their "racial brothers" despite having nothing in common but color which is deliberate castration.
>and in modern Church teachings is used to undermine racial solidarity in white populations
yes
>instead, we need to once again revise their faith to serve our purposes
kike
>>2561
>religions are stupid
Do you think that greek tribes had a religion or not?
>>2565
>ancient hebrew that still were insufferable faggots
Yes.

Nanonymous No.2571 [D] >>2574

>>2537
You remind me of the soldiers Kírkē turned into pigs and when Odysseus came to turn them back, they wanted to stay like that.

Nanonymous No.2574 [D] >>2575

>>2571
So you read Ὀδύσσεια. What a smart and unique little lad, what a great feat of consumption you achieved to come boast to anonymous imageboard for dregs of society (a pigsty).
I award you a (You), my unsufferable redditor, and no argument points, because petty boasting thinly disguised as an ad-hominem is not a, holy shit, why do I even waste time on biotrash the likes of (You). How can a real humen bean boast of his knowledge of pagan Greek tales yet shill for Judaized worldview at the same time.

Nanonymous No.2575 [D]

>>2574
Triggered? Take your rants on twitter where (you) rightfully belong. They even have word-limit that cossets your unwemmed lust for noncontextual, debased debates and honors those who vomit.

Nanonymous No.2577 [D] >>2579

>white church forcing eg ukranians to treat germans as their "racial brothers" despite having nothing in common but color which is deliberate castration.
Also not true. East Germans and Ukrainians have more in common than you think. Sarmatians mixed with certain Germanic tribes.

Nanonymous No.2579 [D]

>>2577
It wasn't the best example, agree, then let's say serbs and bretons. You get my point nonetheless.

Nanonymous No.2580 [D] >>2582

Now now, using thesaurus is cheaper than flaunting kiddie classics.
You still think like a dirty urbanite, dead scared of country life he will die in the moment the SHTF, AND a kike lover, why am I not impressed. An intellectual idiot with Nosy DNA admixture yet pitiful at pilpul.

Nanonymous No.2582 [D]

>>2580
>theasaurus
Have you ever read a book not from this century nor revised in this century?

Nanonymous No.2585 [D] >>2588

>>2568
>national proestantic bible
I can't find a reference to that version.
>the "neighbor" is translated as "bližní" which means someone with the same or similar values and morals
Sounds very, very jewish.
>What you say is that every nation should have their own church treating other christians in non-christian way
And historically, isn't that precisely what happened? Ergo, the intent of "love thy neighbor" applied to the racial in-group specifically - the nation - and manifested itself in exactly the way I described. French Christians and German Christians were Christians both, but they were French and German foremost. In many ways this was interpreted too strictly than is useful (in my opinion), lending itself to European brother wars. But what is certain is that this "similar morals and values" interpretation you're defending is horseshit; the same way that an American is "anyone that shares American values" is horseshit. Neither were intended that way, and to pretend otherwise is textbook revisionism.
>worse, white church forcing eg ukranians to treat germans as their "racial brothers"
It appears that what this jew fears most is a racially united Europe, rather than a Europe united on "morals and values", i.e. today's EU. I wonder why that is...


Nanonymous No.2588 [D] >>2590 >>2881 >>3145

>>2585
>reference to that version
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_of_Kralice
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_of_the_Brethren
>sounds jewsih
No, christian.
>American is "anyone that shares American values"
Czech Republic has nationality defined like this in constitution and so far it works good, that's why there's backlash against settled vietnamies, gypsies and against immigration combined with hatred towards imperialism and americanism. Read on T.G. Masaryk, or better, read some of his quality books.
Horseshit is trying to bend christian teachings instead of giving nationality problem secular treating which it deserves. There's no problem with being christian who believes in "bližní" while vehemently opposes immigration.
>racially united Europe built on twisted teachings
Europe with universally shared basic principles like eg economic freedom and independence from amercian, russian and other powerblocs will be remarkably stronger than the one with forced unity contolled by handful of capitalist actors & bureaucrats and supported by medium-sized aggressive bussiness looking for cheaper and more exploitable workforce like todays eu or your envisioned europe which tries to develop power over nations in a far more dangerous territory, and that's revisionist sacral teachings which can take root and will and undermine whole point of national states and opening europe to america and ruskies once again.

Nanonymous No.2590 [D] >>2594 >>2881

>>2588
>Czech Republic has nationality defined like this in constitution and so far it works good
Not OP and not anti-Christian, but the only reason "Czech citizens who have Czech values" works good is because the Czech Republic is mostly Bohemian ethnically. Civic Nationalism literally doesn't work and never will. Even if they tried to assimilate the gypsies (which they have before, and failed), they wouldn't get rid of the gypsy problem.

Nanonymous No.2594 [D] >>2881

>>2590
>works good is because the Czech Republic is mostly Bohemian
And it worked well in the 1st republic which was not nationally homogenous and there was only little ground for explicitly nationalist parties other than those representing minorities which were pro-state and, unfortunately, it was enough ground for very reactionary Slovak People's Party appealing to at the time illiterate Slovaks (led by traitorous cleric Hlinka in the 1st republic acting as papalist fuck) which then collaborated with clearly anti-slavic germs and were perfectly happy ruling satellite state and happy when infighting. Most people, mostly farmers and rural citizens, voted for them for other reasons other than for irredentistic tendenices and dark-ages faggotry tho. yeah, they regretted it after '35 Everyone who really knew what's happening outside of Czechoslovakia did not. Also today there's somewhat big sentiment towards Czechoslovakia as todays Slovaks and Czechs consider each other brothers. You can't count imported german monkeys with the goal of converting and destabilizing Sudetes or the small number of hungarian revanchists.
>tried to assimilate the gypsies
Yeah, Masaryk tried and who knows if it would work out in the long-term if Hitlerfag and then Stalinfag never happened or if we defended ourselves. **Fuck Beneš, he wrote numerous "pan-slavic" ie pro-russian bootlicking books, fuckin traitor and he also kicked out pro-state germans (thus signalizing the end of humanist ideals which ruled the 1st republic) for no reason.''

Nanonymous No.2881 [D] >>2889 >>2892

>>2590
>>2594
>>2588
>the only reason "Czech citizens who have Czech values" works good is because the Czech Republic is mostly Bohemian ethnically.
No
First, the Czechs killed or expelled the Bohemians, that are the German natives.
Second, it doesn’t work one bit Czech republic is just two decades old!
Before that they had a Czechoslovakian republic that was made up of mostly non-Czechs.

>hatred towards imperialism and americanism. Read on T.G. Masaryk,
The only reason that abomination was created is the USA.

It were the Pan-Slavic chauvinist that lobbied the USA that thought it as a good way to destroy the traditional countries of central and eastern Europe, like Germany/Austria and Russia. Russia is not without fault in that, did they promote pan-Slavism wanting to push back Germans to the Elbe river. Basically they promoted the ethnical cleansing of central Europe from Germans, already before the first World War.
Today the Chechs larp as “Bohemians” taking credit from stupid tourist for the cultural artefacts left by the Germans.
Czechoslovakian didn’t work all their neighbours hated it as well as the people forced to live in this artificial creation of the allies, just like Yugoslavia.

>>2594
>>2590
>And it worked well in the 1st republic which was not nationally homogenous and there was only little ground for explicitly nationalist parties other than those representing minorities
Minorities that made up the majority.

>reactionary Slovak People's Party
>illiterate Slovaks
>traitorous cleric Hlinka papalist fuck
> anti-slavic germs
> imported german monkeys
> hungarian revanchists
Go neck yourself Czech Commie bastard. Is your daddy a German client of your mother or why are you so fucked up?


Nanonymous No.2889 [D][U][F] >>2892 >>2893
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>>2881
>the Czechs killed or expelled the Bohemians, that are the German natives
>german
No, celtic. Just because the "hemian" part is germanic doesn't mean they were germans.
>Czechoslovakian republic that was made up of mostly non-Czechoslovakians
Pic, 65%. At least don't lie so blatantly.
>abomination was created is the USA
>abomination
1) Czech lands were always pseudomulticultural as they are almost literally at the center of europe being surrounded by more numerous neighbors, despite that always being aware that they are czechs
2) there were germs north of czech and germs and avars south of czech and slovakia, russkies to east
Czechoslovakia being endorsed for Masaryks similarity with Washington means nothing and the need for powerblock to repel ever-expanding anti-nationalistic germs was acute.
>traditional countries like austria, germany and russia
Austrians were ottomans of europe you nigger. Germans united in late 19th century. Russia is not european state.
>czechs larp as bohemians
No. Not even one. They were rightly teached that bohemians were celts and czech nation is generally dated since great moravia or since saints cyril and metoděj
>all their neighbours hated it
You mean ad absurdum grandiose and arrogant pan-germs? Or brainded poles, which had dictator who considered himself polish-lithuanian, was responsible for Bereza Kartuska and who like a good pole was also bootliker of the french? and, well, poland was way, wayyy more unstable than czechoslovakia Poles would take Ostrava if they could. Or Hungary which was universally despised by all nations previously under austrio-hungarian rule, for their non-european language and monarchy which took off from where the police-state ended with the end of ww1?
>Go neck yourself Czech Commie bastard
Yeah, I'm not going to advocate for enslavement and probably genocide of slavs or any other ethnolinguistic groups just because some autistic screeching shorty said so.

Nanonymous No.2892 [D] >>2932

>>2889
>>2881
>the Czechs killed or expelled the Bohemians, that are the German natives
>german No, celtic. Just because the "hemian" part is germanic doesn't mean they were germans.
Are you stupid?

Bohemia, Böhmen comes from Boihoma, home of the Boi. That is a Germanic, German word nothing Slavic.
The Boi were a Celtic tribe from Northern Italy that founded for example Milan. The Boi did flee the Celtic genocide by the Romans over the Alps. Celts lived at that time all over the Alps (Hallstadt, oldest know Celtic settlement, that is in Austria), Balkans, eastern and western Europe (Spain, Ireland).
The Romans occupied most of Celtic Europe, smaller parts of Germany. The Romans identified the people living in what latter became Bohemia as Germanic Markomans on several occasions. Arminius, the victor of the battle in Teuteburg forest, did flee from the Romans to Bohemia. The Romans made several attempts to conquer Bohemia, but were never succesfull.
At the end of the Roman Empire, in the migration period Germanic, German people did come from Bohemia to conquer much of the former Roman colonies, north and south of the Alps.
Those people called themselves Boivari, Boi people. That were Germanic people that spoke a Germanic language.
They founded the Duchy of Boivari, Bavaria. That Duchy incorporated Bohemia, much of today’s Bavaria, all of Austria, Slovenia the southern side of the eastern Alps down very close to Venice and their parent city Aquillea. That was around AD400, that makes Bavaria one of the oldest still existing states in Europe.

Bavaria was then one of the most powerful parts of Germany even after it had to submit the rule of the Franks. It had silver (currency), salt (indispensable, as good as gold) and iron (Noric iron). The central power of the German king had then still significant power and after disposing off the Duke of Bavaria, partitioned the Duchy of Bavaria into three parts. The part to the south should become Austria, the part to the east Bohemia. The Duchy of Bavaria had lost nearly all of its economical and therefore political power by shedding the silver mines in Bohemia and Austria, the salt and iron in Austria.
The Habsburgians would take control over Austria some times latter and also Bohemia, reuniting much of the old Duchy’s economical power. That made them so powerful to become German kings and Emperor of the HRE for the next half millennia.

Slavs? Slavs did migrate in small groups into Germanic settlement area during the migration period and later from the east when there were no central authority, efficient border control (just like today). Population density was low at that times and each farmer could farm only so much land at that times. So conflict didn’t arise then. Much of Germany and central Europe was forest at that time anyway. Slavs continued to be rural population for most of the time and places, while Germans were farmer too but also build the cities that were nearly exclusively German, even in place that came under Slavic rule further east, Poland. This continued until the begin of industrialisation when country folks was sought as workforce, including Slavs.

The eradication of German people, their culture and history from much of central Europe, beginning with the first World War and after the second World War with genocidal frenzy, the continued propaganda that “Germans, Germany did not exist” make it look like that there was nothing, while in fact it were the Germans that brought civilisation to central and eastern Europe, much like the Greeks and Romans did in the south and west.


Nanonymous No.2893 [D]

>>2889
>Austrians were ottomans of europe you nigger.
The Czech Hussites were in an alliance with the Turks.


Nanonymous No.2910 [D] >>2922

>while in fact it were the Germans that brought (((civilisation))) on spear point
This is why nobody likes you.
Germs just have to spill over with their autism, until getting whack in the head by the Slavs of the French and forced back into the free autism area.
And they STILL try to FORCE (((civilization))) in droves of mudslimes on Poles, Czechs and Hungarians. Again, and again!
I can only hope Europe will be safer once everything German will be forced back across the Laba river and Lusatian Serbia recolonized by Serbs for all the WW2 and Yugoslav shenanigans Germistan is responsible, maybe then they will think again before sperging around? No? Who knows, even the French had to have the Massacre of Saxons to hope beat some sense into Germs, and yet it wasn't enough.

Nanonymous No.2914 [D] >>2931 >>2932

Christianity is a Greek Mystery religion. It proposes a platonic view of heaven and earth. God is perfect and hence not corruptable, so God can't be in the material world. God the Father is in heaven in Plato's world of ideas. Another emination of God ( His son begotten of of the father before time not made) is the word of God , or the Verb of god, meaning the action of god that brings things into creation. The verb of god lies on the boundary between the world of ideas and the material world. This unmade maker made the material world, and is cosubstatntial with the Father. Meaning made of the same God Substance, whatever that is. This word / verb of god the Son of god, Incarnated (entered into the corruptable decaying material world) in the person of Jesus Christ. The purpose of which was to redeem sinners. Aperantly God only takes pure souls into heaven ( the world of ideas), most people are not pure, and hence are either destroyed or punished or whatever after death. The goal of Christianity is to purify your soul and die a "good death" with no stain of sin, in a state of "Grace" or friendship with God. If this is the case, Christianity states that your soul will be preserved (or saved in heaven after death) your existance continues in some form in the world of ideas ( heaven) while people who die in unpure soul state, are sent to hell for wasting ( punishment, destruction ... ). That is a short version of what Christianity is about.

Nanonymous No.2915 [D] >>2940

Christianity's main concern is with dying a good death. Dying in a state of grace, with your soul being preserved (saved) in heaven after death. It is an anti-materialistic world view, that demotes the importance of the temporal here and now, and promotes the importance of the eternal immortal soul, which has the ultimate goal of seeing the face of god, or being in God's presence in heaven. The story about Jesus's travels and sayings are just a backdrop for the exposition of the Christian Theology.

God the Father in Heaven (perfect and holy) -----> The Son of God/ The Word/Verb of God Maker of the material world -----> Jesus ( the son of God in human flesh form capable of dying and feeling pain, incarnated into the material world in order to be sacraficed to redeem the sins of the world.) Namely to allow the unpure dirty sinner souls, to be allowed to enter into heaven the world of ideas after death. How? Through the mercy of God the Father, and the sacrafice (blood atonement human sacrafice, of God the Son in the person of Jesus Christ)

Christianity is a human sacrafice death cult. It's primary preocupation is your state of being upon death, and its primary sacrament (sign of god in the world) is the human sacrafice of Jesus Christ, the incarnation of God. This sacrafice was eternally pleasing to God, and through it's redemptive power of the shedding of his blood attoned for the sins of THE WORLD.

Now evil wicked sinners can have vicious sex parties and then go to heaven upon death. The best of both worlds. Have a roman orgy, then ask for forgiveness from god, be forgiven, and then go straight to heaven.

Nanonymous No.2922 [D] >>3008

>>2910 [D]
>while in fact it were the Germans that brought (((civilisation))) on spear point
>This is why nobody likes you.
It is a bit rich for an invader people, Slavs, to accuse the natives of belligerency.

>Germs just have to spill over with their autism, until getting whack in the head by the Slavs of the French and forced back into the free autism area.
Oh the French…

France

So while the civilized world, Germany, Spain and Italy, tried to save Europe from Islam, the French allied with the Turk and did their best for 500 years to destroy Germany … and Spain.

Germany had liberated Belgrade from the Turk, when France invaded Germany. Laid waist to south-west Germany, burned down cities, the ruins are still to be visited, salted the field, uprooted the wine yards and led the people into slavery…

That was the reason why Germany had to abandon Belgrade and rush home to save its people from the French ally of the Turk. So Belgrade stayed under the Turk for the next 200 years.

France also plotted the joint invasion of Spain with the Turk.
The remaining mohammedans in Spain staged an uprising and called the Turk for help. The Turkish fleet was on its way from North-Africa, while France invaded from the South of France into Catalonia.
That uprising of the mohemedanians was crushed decisively by Don Juan d’Austria before the Turks could land, being intercepted by the Spanish Armada. The French then had to abandon their invasion for this time, because the freed from the muslim peril Spanish troops headed north.


Nanonymous No.2931 [D]

>>2914
>in a state of "Grace" or friendship with God
<beg for my friendship by utter sumbission or get tortured for eternity
Yeah, I can clearly see the reason pagans had to be conquered and converted at sword point.
It has NOTHING in common with Greek Mysteries aside from some leftover influences to entice the Greeks there. Christianity is akin to Hollyjew propaganda enticing you with OK first episode or 10 min, before going full agitprop on your mind.
Access to the Mysteries was barred to the unworthy, and Plato received death threats for as much as alluding to the Mysteries he took part of. People wanting to know the Mysteries had to earn the right them by being paragons of virtue, and keep the secrets secret under threat of death. That's why we barely know what happened there.
Never any Mysteries cult had to genocide its way through unbelievers into magical sky slaver who wants you to love him or else get tortured forever.
The rest of your post is pretty much correct, on spot even. But please don't tarnish the Mysteries associating them with a slavish death cult. Its Chriscucks who prohibited the Mysteries and had to force them underground, into the occult.

Nanonymous No.2932 [D][U][F] >>2933
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>>2892
>Boihoma, home of the Boi
>boii means nothing

>milan
>insubri are boii
You could have said bologne which is etruscan anyway, but could have counted.
>germanized pseudocelts, earlier gallic-illyrian tribe, which were driven away first by romans and then by marcomans migrating from slovakia are now bavarians who never really got the idea of germanism at all, very possibly mixture of boii, but mainly marcomanni and northern savages, later being mixed with franks, called baiovarii at the time when there were no boii in bohemia, just because they were south of danube and settled in boii land after whose previous inhabitants they named the czech lands
>pannonian Boii in 2th century bc repelled germanic savages(teutons and cimbri, from whose king boiorix you seem to draw the picture too I guess)

>The eradication of German people, their culture and history from much of central Europe, beginning with the first World War and after the second World War with genocidal frenzy
In czechoslovakia? No, not at all, all slavs living in austria-hungary just hated that glob and were mainly distancing from german political autism culture and their forced cultural hegemony. Btw if national palingenesia means "genocidal frenzy" you would have to hate all nations that are, as they are literally all artificial constructs and destroyed numerous subcultures and whatnot in process. And what the fuck is wrong with you? Masaryk acknowledged the influence of vienna on moravia, german on czech and the polish on silesia. Masaryk reflected all that in his teachings. With WW2 I agree. While I'm completely against deutschböhmen expulsion, I'm completely for removal of deutsche tho.
On the other hand, germans are insufferable fucks everytime they go outside of germany, always virtue signaling, always squealing and behaving like pigs, showing complete disdain for anything that's not "theirs" and claiming what's not theirs as theirs. It's hard to deal with germs when they are acting and throughout their whole history acted as bigoted and irredeemable fucks.
While I'm at it, I'll also say that not only the socialism term in national socialism is deceptive, but national too. Nationalism is much more than claiming national superiority and calling for eradication/enslavement of all other nations deemed inferior.
>it were the Germans that brought civilisation to central Europe
Central was mischmasch of byzantine (as byzantine was in direct oppsition to germs and franks), eg glagolitsa and palaeoslavic, and german, but germans being papalists, more numerous, svatopluk the first being cuck who dethroned pro-culture rastislav, byzantine far, other slavs than poles far and poles being poles decided. Also one of the reasons why there were hussites. The civilization you are speaking of was brought by svatopluk the first, not by germs, germs wanted czechs and other slavs to die. It's miracle that czechs survived.
>>2914
Speaking of plato/platonic, plato believed? in recollection. I sincerely love his logical reasoning behind "those who are said to learn only remember" speaking in favor of truly anti-ethnic nietzschean rhetoric.

Nanonymous No.2933 [D]

>>2932
*north of danube...and named themselves too. How the fuck could germs know what boius means? Of course that in their ignorance they thought that boius is mere inhabitant of bohemia.
and what the fuck once again reversing migration period is retarded as fuck anyway.
If I were retarded muh natives are not natives but natives revanchist like you I would have to kill myself just like nearly every european.

Nanonymous No.2935 [D]

I was born into a Christian home. I can honestly say my youth was surpressed a little, a loving mother and father I have, their intentions were good, but the surpression built up a rebelious heart inside me when I was particularly younger, teenage. Eventually I woke up to believe 'God is non existent, but I'm cautious with this phrase, in my heart I could be wrong, and I now have a very agnostic point of view, but never to the point I insult anybody who is Christian or what they believe. Most real Christ followers dont attend church, this is something Ive witnessed, but believe they worship god on a daily, appreciating life, and being constantly aware of his grace, not taking freedom for granted. Church is a very corrupt thing these days, espectially liberal ones. I call them wolf packs, you have the pastors, aka leaders, and you have the sermans aka volunteers and followers who need validation.needy people. I grew up going to church ive seen it all, theres a struggle for power even among pastors. Very twisted. A lot of christians have broken off tradition of going to church, but are still believers. I believe much of what is said from far right politicians, many people have been desenitized gradually from the corruption of western society. In reality, it is evil. Homosexuality,co existing aka pretending and ignoring culture clash,addiction a huge problem with white people-goverments fault,and to even further this issue, marajuana is legal, a drug that destroys brain ceels, can cause horrible mental disorders, and health.

I dont believe Christianity is destroying white people, I believe it has saved many from the' previously mentioned and continues to support the needy and broken hearted.

Nanonymous No.2940 [D] >>3004

>>2915 [D]
>Christianity's main concern is with dying a good death. Dying in a state of grace
>Now evil wicked sinners can have vicious sex parties and then go to heaven upon death. The best of both worlds. Have a roman orgy, then ask for forgiveness from god, be forgiven, and then go straight to heaven.
If you are a jew or protestant, sure. Jew think they can cheat God on technicalities. They expect to beat God by refer him to the small print …

In Christianity that doesn’t work.
While in fact the awfullest criminals and transgressors are promised heaven if they repent, but only if they sincerely repent and not made a calculate bid. In addition the Catholic church expect an act of penance in relation to the transgression before death. If that act is not longer possible because death stroke first, the Catholic church expected the deceased soul to go through a purgatory. They expect that nearly any soul except for some particular blameless persons (Virgin Mary) will go through purgatory, only the time in purgatory might differ.

Protestants deny that a personal act (works) is necessary for salvation.


Nanonymous No.3004 [D]

>>2940
>In addition the Catholic church expect an act of penance in relation to the transgression before death
>Forgive me, Padre, for I have murderraped a village on my way here
<Do you truly repent?!
>Jaaaaa
<OK, gimme moneyz fo dem indulgencia and off you go
This is so funny, to see someone blasting Prots for thinking in technicalities, while Lutherans used literal buying of Salvation from Popes directly as an excuse to separate.
Orthodox ones are no better, whatever the tsar in power willed, the church bent backwards. That's not mentioning Russian Orthodox burning their own version of "Prots" who said Church owning serfs was amoral.

While we at it, can we please ditch the preposterous notion of the Original Sin? Nobody sinned to anybody, Jehovah is a petty cunt, and the Original Sin is as meaningless and subversive as White Guilt is. If Communism is lay Talmudism, then SocJus is lay Christianism.
This is marketing 101: invent a problem out of nothing - raise anxiety - sell solution for moneyz. With the added Crusades and genocidal forced conversions of sane people don't just take the bait.

Nanonymous No.3006 [D] >>3008

Original Sin is the predisposition of all men and women towards disobediance to God's commandments. It isn't an actual sin. The original sin was Adam and Eve eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge when they were instructed not to. The punsihment which was accorded to them and all of their progeny was explusion from the Garden of Eden, and Death (loss of immortality). Original Sin means your mortal and you have a predisposition for not following God's rules. It has no punishment except that you're not immortal.

Nanonymous No.3007 [D] >>3011 >>3012

reminder that Israelites are God's chosen people

Nanonymous No.3008 [D] >>3116 >>3212

>>2922
>It is a bit rich for an invader people, Slavs
<Germ calling anyone invader
Top lel. Tacitus tells how Germans were the first snowniggers, eschewing any productive labour and wishing nothing but a thrill of battle and dying in fight, so their young would constantly pick fights with neighbouring tribes because just minding your own business was somehow unmanly and shameful to the snowniggers.
Which sounds romantic only if you don't happen to live close to a snownigger ghetto. Literally the same lifestyle, snownigger gangbangers raiding each other over 'street cred' and subsisting on whatever they manage to steal, ever envious or working peoples' riches.

Remind yourselves that before the Gothic *invasion* from Gotaland to the Ukraine, nobody knew of Slavs. They probably didn't even exist, just some South Baltic tribal union south of Pripet marshes content to farm in peace, even when paying tribute to invading Germans. Until some Gothic chieflet decided it was a good idea to conquer proto-Slavs and crucify their leaders to make them afraid. Instead the Hunns exploited Gothic weakness from their losing initial battles to Slavs, and made Goths in turn their bitches. That was around 375, late IV century. About a hundred years later Slavs were already everywhere from Laba river to the mouth of Danube, and the Byzantine sources show them to be mighty pissed murder-pillagers enjoying cozy relations with Huns.
You see, Hans? If Germans wouldn't behave like the snowniggers they are, there wouldn't even be Slavs at all to Rape Berlin once a couple centuries. This is all your doing.
Even Lithuania went from an insignificant Russian border tribe to major power of Europe because they had had enough of German Crusaders snownigging around.

>>3006
>It has no punishment except that you're not immortal
You omitted the part about the endless suffering in Hell if you happen to die not in the state of Grace. Being created by supposedly self-sufficient omnipotent Being to only suffer forever if you don't beg Him enough to Save you from what He would do to you if you don't submit. Wow. Such self-sufficiency. Many Love.
No wonder the sophists had such easy time trolling Christian missionaries and their excuse for the religion, before Theodosius made paganism a capital crime that is. The empire needs slaves, and slaves need to behave like ones.

Nanonymous No.3011 [D]

>>3007
>reminder that Israelites are God's chosen people
Hello Moishe
God noticed the pick, you are all rotten to the core, never kept your part of the contract.


Nanonymous No.3012 [D]

>>3007
Whom are christian, yes.

Nanonymous No.3021 [D] >>3022

Been going through WLP broadcasts one by one again. This was tonight's. I immediately thought of this thread.

Pierce-19970308-OnChurch-goers.mp3

Nanonymous No.3022 [D] >>3114

>>3021
Didn't seem to like the MP3 attachment. jewtube here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zf8fqKrraA

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>>3022
here you go

Nanonymous No.3116 [D][U][F] >>3136
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>>3008
>even Lithuania went from an insignificant Russian border tribe to major power of Europe because they had had enough of German Crusaders snownigging around

>be duke of masovia, Konrad I
>tatars just raided southern poland and shattered the whole kingdom to duchies
>be too weak to defend masovia from prussians and pushed by pope to christianize prussia
>invite snowniggers, give them some land and promise them 1/3 of prussia for defending their borders, while church will take 2/3 of it
>firdrich II makes chrysobull, says "the prussia is all ours" and makes crusaders reichsfursten
>churche emissary gets "killed by prussians"
>snowniggers then forge the certificate by which konrad I entrusted them 1/3 of prussia
>papst makes prussia "property of st. peter" and gives it to snowniggers
Never ever trust snowniggers.

Nanonymous No.3136 [D]

>>3116
>be too weak to defend masovia from prussians
>invite snowniggers
>papst makes prussia "property of st. peter" and gives it to snowniggers Never ever trust snowniggers.
Polish-Lithuanian thiefs were envious of the kit other people created out of nothing.
Polish-Lithuanian thiefs do what they still do (crime statistic UK) they whack the owner and take his stuff – Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth stronk!

Nigger stay nigger. Nigger create nothing. Check civilisatory development of Germany in contrast to Poland Lithuania.


Nanonymous No.3145 [D]

>>2588
>nationality defined like this in constitution
Quite a stretch, but effectively it should work out like that.

Reminder that czechs are literally the pettiest and laziest nation ever. Since their revival every prominent nationalist called czechs out for it or tried to steer the public away from it and 1st republic with their international politics and pro-procreational stance seemed to be changing it rapidly, czech hands were called "golden" during its rule and czechoslovakia was seen as beacon of light even by [more conscious] germans, especially during the deppression which didn't hit czechoslovakia not even remotely as much as germany (only the sudetes as almost all the industry there was export-orientated).
Since munich it changed significantly for worse, czechs becoming solipistic and just like germans in 19th century; without backbone, without morals, bootlickers, the stirnerian armchair and big-mouthed anti-energy anarchists justifying lacking balls, cancerous indefferentists who love to swim in shit of pettiness and brag in kneipe about what their local politicians fucked up; becoming your regular fogies and philistines. Stalinism embraced it totally.
Now they have filthy bača prime minister who is prosecuted, who was snitch for secret police, billionaire whos in cahoots with other unbearably wealthy pigs and owns literally all newspapers in country.
The pretty much same scenario can be applied to almost every post-communist country (absolute destroyment of nations mentality, of public culture, creation of snitch culture and giving rise to slanders and so, ruling out any and all individuality, null political tradition etc), it's just that czechs are on the table.
t. german

Nanonymous No.3212 [D] >>3213 >>3249

>>3008
>Being created by supposedly self-sufficient omnipotent Being to only suffer forever if you don't beg Him enough to Save you from what He would do to you if you don't submit.
I agree with you on that point, which is why even though I was raised in a religious household, Christianity never appealed to me. Perhaps you were raised under similar conditions and still resent it? I know I did... for decades. Whatever the case may be, here is my suggestion to you: let go of your bitterness. Let the Christians have their faith, regardless of how ridiculous you think it is; put that grievance aside and instead focus on what is important.
There are Christians out there (albeit few of them these days, given the almost total corruption of the church and everything it once stood for) that are still good men - our men - to whom the survival of our race is paramount. Ask yourself: what good comes from antagonizing these people over their faith? They are no more likely to give up their faith than you are to adopt it. So what is it you hope to achieve by antagonizing them? To "prove" them wrong? Impossible. To nourish your ego? Make yourself feel better? Feel superior?
Worse yet, the jews know better than anybody that religion is a significant fracture point among our people. In fact, religion is the ultimate fracture point - an eternal and resolvable fracture point - because neither side can prove themselves correct, nor can they prove the other side incorrect. That is the very nature of faith. Thus this weakness is forever exploitable by our enemies, and will continue to be exploited ruthlessly if we permit it.
The thinking man would show a little maturity and resist the urge to add fuel to an already raging fire. Upon discovering the futility of it; upon realizing the damage and irreconcilable infighting it perpetuates; upon learning how it prevents us from achieving unity of purpose and how it helps our enemies keep us divided, he would STOP shitting on people for their personal religious beliefs and encourage others to see the sense in doing likewise. This goes for all of us: religious and non-religious alike.

Nanonymous No.3213 [D]

>>3212
*unresolvable fracture point.

Nanonymous No.3249 [D][U][F] >>3257
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>>3212
Religion is mere set of sacral morals making sense only when one is gnostic and rendered completely obsolete; useful only for pedophiles, sissy jezuits, tyrants and boves. The moment you are too afraid to shatter said sacral morals, you are afraid of evolution, afraid of what's after false idols, afraid of choice, afraid of rationalism that is not fatalism, afraid of any spirituality; unless you want slave morality to be the nature of common folk you treat bible like cheap free verse as boring, preachy and repetitive as quran. Bible's only useful when you need to explain idea on an example to retards who have not read a book or as mythological inspiration devoid of imagination. Christianity and concept of monotheism is overcome for centuries now.

There's shamefully a large, consistent cohort of auxiliaries[cultural christians] in europe confidently voting for christian political parties which have been progressively anti-people since their foundations. Cultural christians and christians are opposed to bene commune. Some christian parties masked themselves eg in spain and italy and their voter base is shrinking each and every year, but they are still very powerful. National socialism or any other other political religion is in direct opposition to religions not engineered by them and is also in direct opposition to feudalism and feudal relicts. Deceiving auxiliaries into uniting for bene commune makes them a fuckin' ticking bomb, much like german minorities in central europe, russian in baltic states or muslim in predominantly christian states. One spark is enough and they can make mess. They will either join on secular terms or they won't.
'murica with 75% of population identifying as "christians" is doomed tho.

Nanonymous No.3250 [D]

Like OP said, my darkest fear regarding Christians is that in the event of a shared victory for Europeans, they immediately turn around and stab their brothers in the back.

Against paganism, or against atheism, Christians can likely go rogue and make everything worse.

Nanonymous No.3255 [D] >>3258

> Ask yourself: what good comes from antagonizing these people over their faith? They are no more likely to give up their faith than you are to adopt it. So what is it you hope to achieve by antagonizing them? To "prove" them wrong? Impossible. To nourish your ego? Make yourself feel better? Feel superior?

You're right.

I was with you, but then I really asked myself, and I suddenly realized a bit of a dark truth.

It's important to kick down *their* egos.

Not to boost my ego, but to remember that Christians are numerous, so they need to be weaker-per-person, to make up for minority groups like Atheists or Pagans. Otherwise they'll happily create a "democracy" that favors their voting bloc, but makes it impossible for anyone else to ever win.

They need to play fair, considering that they had control of the floor for hundreds of years, and they still failed incredibly miserably.

Nanonymous No.3257 [D]

>>3249
>There's shamefully a large, consistent cohort of auxiliaries[cultural christians] in europe confidently voting for christian political parties which have been progressively anti-people since their foundations.
Correct, and those people are indeed a problem. But understand, their Christian faith isn't the root of the problem; their Christian faith does not require from them anti-racist views. That's nonsense. For if it were true, there could be no Christian men fighting by our side. Yet there are many Christians, some of them right here in this thread that support our views on race, and who have joined with us in the fight for our people's survival.

>Deceiving auxiliaries into uniting for bene commune makes them a fuckin' ticking bomb
There's no "deception" required. The majority of Christians, just like the majority of people, generally, are lemmings, and the problems plaguing Christians today are manifestations of the jewish zeitgeist affecting us all. The Christians certainly aren't immune to it, nor are they more susceptible to it, really. In healthier times, all were healthier men. Our responsibility is to work toward restoring our civilization to health.


Nanonymous No.3258 [D] >>3266

>>3255
>It's important to kick down *their* egos.
If you want to argue with Christians for sport, futile though it is, then go ahead. Just refrain from doing it here, that's all I suggest. Recognize that there is a time and a place for everything. If you want to wind up Christians, take it to a Christian forum and do it there instead. Here, we ought to focus on what unites us, bringing our men together, not focusing on petty divisions and playing into the hands of our enemies.
The Christians here are not your enemy. They are your brothers. And you should treat them as you would treat a brother, with the respect and dignity he deserves. Of course you can disagree with him - that is only natural - but don't allow that disagreement to turn to hostility, particularly when the argument is one in which you stand on no more solid ground than he does.
There is far more at stake for us than whether or not you can score points on him for his belief in sky fairies.

Nanonymous No.3266 [D]

>>3258

The reason to kick down an ego in this case is fear and survival based.

I've heard what they say. If they ever get control of NatSocCorp, they'll drive out us Pagans and Atheists who helped build it!

That's our fear. Atheists are the scientific sort, so a society needs them, and pagans are traditional, and bound closer to nature than the others. But Christians are obsessed with their law and justice, and they end up hurting innocent people over their religious law. They're the ones who whisper gleefully for the DOTR the most.

The issue is that I fear that they will put their god before they put any man, and that means that no earthly allegiance such as "brotherhood," will be as strong as their belief in a religion.

Thus they will turn traitor and destroy us all, and because Christianity was designed by ancient Roman ZOG, it's bound to lead the white race back into stagnation and despair.

Nanonymous No.3272 [D][U][F] >>3275 >>3276
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Nanonymous No.3273 [D][U][F] >>3275
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Nanonymous No.3275 [D]

>>3272
>>3273
These PNGs are way too big, you can use pngquant for example and possible disable text anti-aliasing to make them (much) smaller.

Nanonymous No.3276 [D]

>Christianity was contrived by the Jews to control the Roman populous.
Reminder that the Jews (who hated Jesus, because he believed the Jews were not God's chosen people, among other things) collaborated with the Romans (who also hated Jesus and his teachings, and believed he was conspiring against Rome) to bring about a swift end to Jesus Christ only three years after he had begun spreading the Word of God.

>>3272
>Christianity prophesizes a genocide of non-Jews.
No, it doesn't. The whole point of Christianity is to be 'Judaism' (though it has now far extracted itself from its Judaic roots) for non-Jews. Jesus himself was against the Jews.

Nanonymous No.3525 [D] >>3526

Lukewarm Christians will go to hell. Its literally in the bible. The type that says that Jesus was a good guy who wouldn't hurt a fly and don't believe he is God's son but still a great moral leader despite not following any of his doctrine and cherry picking verses. Revelation 3:16
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; 15I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Not following Jesus' teachings is a one way ticket to hell including for those that say they are christian but don't follow his faith and teachings. Remember this In the protocols in the elder of zion one of the main tasks is the destruction of traditional Christianity.

Nanonymous No.3526 [D] >>3527

>>3525
So every single catholic ever ended in hell? God, I wish hell exists.

Nanonymous No.3527 [D]

>>3526
Catholics are technically another church. These are the people who are christian in name only. Believe it or not their are some catholics on the surface who believe fully in christ. It is the ones who turn a blindeye to homosexuality and other disgusting practices that go to hell. So majority of catholics yeah all of them probably not. Obviously you can repent for your sins but if that repentance isn't genuine can you really call it repentance in the first place.