I always wondered how many of those are on imageboards. When I'm writing in my native language it's always elusive and half of the vocabulary I use is incomprehensible to average joe. Are the english-speakers on imageboards average joes, are they dumbing it down for non-natives or what?
Also memes. Have you ever tried to recreate the memes to fit your language or tried to imagine how would discussion look like if everybody was schreeching da joos 'n shit, using vulgar terms for everything?
>I always wondered how many of those are on imageboards
Native speakers are majority, but non-natives form a sizeable minority.
> When I'm writing in my native language it's always elusive and half of the vocabulary I use is incomprehensible to average joe
Did you "dumb it down" right now? I get you fine.
>Are the english-speakers on imageboards average joes, are they dumbing it down for non-natives or what?
I think most are social outcasts and use informal language as they would with other natives in everyday scenarios.
>Have you ever tried to recreate the memes to fit your language
People do translate memes literally, meaning they don't make sense in different language. It's done on purpose and can be funny.
>>7737 >Did you "dumb it down" right now?
I'm not native.
>social outcasts who use informal language
That's probably it, but hell, even they read poetry. Maybe they are dismayed by non-natives language, but still, there's no problem creating more nuanced, subtle sentences whilst keeping it in the ropes of informal language and contextually understandable for us. I'm not saying they should write in contrived and forcible manner, but language is what keeps mind lush and they are majority. I wouldn't mind.
>memes
btw don't they seem retarded to native speakers? I mean, I do, why would they not to native speakers? I see form time to time kraut memes and the closer the language to my nature, the more retarded they seem. Do you feel, hm, entäusserung when reading them?
>>7738 >even they read poetry
Because they are natives! I can have actual discussion with you but struggle to read book in English.
>Maybe they are dismayed by non-natives language
I don't know which language do you speak and I'm not interested, but you assume just because speaking your language can be hard for non-natives doesn't mean it's like that with English. This language is everywhere and people everywhere learn it in school, so simple tenses are not ambiguous for most. Natural English doesn't use hard words or even if it uses you already know them because, with Internet access and amount of English content, you learned.
>btw don't they seem retarded to native speakers?
They probably do, but they are not aware of them.
>why would they not to native speakers?
Because most of them speaks only English.
>I see form time to time kraut memes and the closer the language to my nature, the more retarded they seem.
I believe it's on purpose.
>Do you feel, hm, entäusserung when reading them?
I'm not sure.
I think native speakers are the majority for the most part and I don't think anons are necessarily dumbing down their speech for non-natives like me, but rather it's that the average post doesn't reach enough people or stay up long enough your average poster would like to warrant the effort, and usually they can can convey their thoughts with simple language just fine.
It is very frustrating for me. I never liked informal language and the lie I told myself that I eventually would grows ever falser by the day. I am turning to con-languages like Lojban for an escapism from annoyingly ambiguous informal speak.
I just want to talk like brits did in the 1800s consistently. I do not need to change how I speak to be casual along with the substance of what I speak. I am perfectly content speaking "in a formal style" with casual substance; it is less ambiguous that way.
Oh well, I will just have my children natively speak Lojban and call it a day.
>>7736 >Are the english-speakers on imageboards average joes, are they dumbing it down for non-natives or what?
We're just average Joes, man. We can't all be galaxy-brain MENSA members like you.
>>7751 >I am turning to con-languages like Lojban for an escapism from annoyingly ambiguous informal speak.
>Lojban
>not Ithkuil
Nah, Lojban's pretty cool, though.
>>7751 >I just want to talk like brits did in the 1800s consistently
That's a nice goal.
Lojban seems interesting. How are the IRCs?
>>7756 >Ithukil
By any chance, do you have pdf of Ithkuil Grammar?
>>7800 Being overly formal doesn't work. But talking to "average joes" on their level encourages them to be too comfortable around you, or even deign themselves to be your better. In one's speech, I find it's best to be direct, honest, and maintain a slight distance in mannerisms so normalfagz subconsciously know their place.
I always wondered how many of those are on imageboards. When I'm writing in my native language it's always elusive and half of the vocabulary I use is incomprehensible to average joe. Are the english-speakers on imageboards average joes, are they dumbing it down for non-natives or what?
Also memes. Have you ever tried to recreate the memes to fit your language or tried to imagine how would discussion look like if everybody was schreeching da joos 'n shit, using vulgar terms for everything?