>Epic makes new storefront to sell games based on their success of CuckNite
>Dis-botnet-cord decides to make a new store front based on their success of selling user's personal data
>Both stores poach games rather than develop exclusives.
>People talk how this is good since game developers can make more money on their games
>None of the savings are beneficial to the customer as developers don't change the price of their games even though less of a cut is taken by store font
Why is this a good thing? I am for competition and dislike Steam with a burning passion for ruining PC gaming, but to claim this is a win for consumers is a blatant lie.
I wish companies would go back to distributing games themselves again and not go through some middle man.
Games like ShitCraft made lots of money this way without going through a distributor, why do we even need storefronts for PC anyways? Publicity? Triple A games advertisement is everywhere why not just advertise buying directly through there site?
Using other peoples stores is easier and cheaper. I am a game dev, not a retailer. Selling things cost time and nerves, needs at least a little infrastructure, and come with significant legal risks. These stores offer all of this for a decent price.
Who says this is a good thing? Obviously no on here. If you're talking about people on cuckchan and pigchan you need to understand that well over 50% of the posts you see are from legitimate paid actors. The other 50% are from people who have been maliciously influenced by paid actors. If you can't possibly figure out why people are in favor of something that seems overwhelmingly retarded then one would assume it's probably an inauthentic shill campaign. Either way none of this should be of concern to you as you should be pirating everything and anything.
>>647 Russian trolls get paid around 20 cents a replied post. Considering you know English, you can prolly expect double the pay, around 600 dollars a month, perhaps, being regularly scammed with your paycheck every month accounted for.
>>645 Stripe and Amazon offer all this for a decent price. What stores provide beyond that is users, who will have it recommended every time they start the app. The issue with this is that the only games that need a store to advertise are ass anyways, and anyone just trying to play games is forced to see a barrage of advertisements for shit games.
>>650 I could do 3000 shill posts a month easily. Gib link.
>>651 Stripe is only a payment processor, you'd still have to sell and deal with customers yourself. Digital stores offer the whole stack. You just give them your product and they do everything else.
Amazons app-store is just another storefront, no different than the others.
>Both stores poach games rather than develop exclusives.
Talk to any developer that exclusively launches on either platform and they'll say they did it out of their own volition.
>People talk how this is good since game developers can make more money on their games
It is good for everyone involved that there is diversity.
>None of the savings are beneficial to the customer as developers don't change the price of their games even though less of a cut is taken by store font
Numerous games that went on Epic store were discounted and Discord gives you access to a shitton of games with a subscription.
Proprietary botnets are shit but if you're going to be a child that plays video games then diversity like this is only a good thing. Steam is a creeping cancer that got too big for it's britches and has too many useless features, no quality control, and is also run by a company that farms your data.
Steam is the future of game buying. If you think that removing Steam is ever the correct solution to a problem then you are a part of the problem. If you ask how to remove Steam you can expect a downvote from me. If you suggest removing Steam as a solution you can expect a downvote from me.
>>658 No, platforms are fucking horrible. I've used the Epic platform and it's pure bullshit just like any other.
>crashes if you do X or Y
>major update to the GUI all the time to waste more of your time re-figuring out how to do stuff
>bugs in downloading process
>if you click twice on this thing, it crashes
>if you try to click on that thing while it's doing some task, it crashes
>bugs in opening the game
>bugs in shitty XMPP-based chat
>design failures such as using XMPP to implement chat
>bugs in friendslist presence (once again because it's implemented with XMPP instead of doing something sane)
>bugs in waiting line
>is botnet
>is bloat
>webshit embedded in the client
>literally not one single button in the GUI is reliable. will do different things every time
>huge (as in seconds) delay to open from tray every time
it's just fucking garbage and all platforms are. they can't even be bothered to get a real programmer working on that shit. remember Steam could not even figure out how to prevent people who don't own a game from downloading it for their first 15 years
platforms are shit and we need to go back to CD keys. if you honestly think a cucksumer will not buy your game because he has to enter a CD key, you're a fucking retard. platforms are a corporate thing, they are for monetization and promotion. they also allow game non-devs to easily push new updates every 5 minutes instead of having a slightly more competent engineering process
games in current decade are dead anyway. both from an engineering perspective and an aesthetics perspective and even on a storytelling perspective
>It is good for everyone involved that there is diversity.
This is the one good point, taking market share away from Steam.
>Numerous games that went on Epic store were discounted and Discord gives you access to a shitton of games with a subscription.
why the fuck would you ever buy a game?
1) Indie games actually do exist
2) These games are pretty much the only thing that keeps on giving
Also games have been developed and then published by (((publishers))) long before Steam was ever a thing, so I don't even know what your problem is. Well, apart from the fact that Steam is shitty and there are GOG or whatever.
>>658 >>660 >>712 >>713 >>714 Daily reminder that GoG is cancer too. While it's nice everything is free from DRM and possibly your only semi-moral choice if you want to "support the devs", it's still platform.
Pirate and never ever feel guilty, after all, it's the only moral choice. Even more if you believe in OSS or FOSS.
>>717 yeah GoG is another overrated meme bullshit. just face it in this capitalist/cucksumer world there will never be anything good aside from a few outliers
>>718 because it was supposedely independent from record labels or some shit, and then everyone copied each other and made a bunch of gay sounding semi-rock music with shitty ironic vocals. Actual good independent music like Lolishit could also be called indie, but the "indie" label is so attached to that gay hipster genre that it would be confusing.
>>720 >Actual good independent music
>Lolishit
What exactly is so good about that shit?
I mean, it's just bullshit resampled gazillion times and there's little to no creativity or aesthetics to it. I mean, noise can be interesting sometimes, but that fringe crap is just bullshit.
>>721 is this troll?
>just play fortnite
>>722 the first step would be admitting that it's not noise
the second step would be admitting that it's not "just shit resampled a gazillion times". just because something has "samples" in it, doesn't make it bad
btw there only good albums are Chest Flattener and Trap Split, the other stuff is mostly junk
>>723 >Chest Flattener
GRTkfczaMXk
Good fucking music, you fuck.
Though I will admit it's not the worst I've heard.
It's still shit.
[MAD] is the example of how I want my animes resampled, OK?
bxqBuvUR-y4
>>720 >>722 >>723 >>725 How do you define independent music?
>>726 I don't like breakcore too. I seed Fuck Canada and that's it.
webm is GRTkfczaMXk(Lolishit - Schoolgirl With Hair-Drills)
>>714 and case in point, i started epic launcher today (to play an actual good game, the UT99 remake), and surprise, you can't view speed or file size of downloads anymore because they changed the GUI for the 10th time for no reason
>>644 Both Discord and Epic are owned by Tencent, the Chinese spyware corporation. I couldn't care less about prices of anything there since I'm not retarded enough to use these malicious services and I doubt anyone here is.
>>644 >Why is this a good thing?
Competition is always good. Besides, if the developers get more money, even if the players don't save any, they'll hopefully get a better game.
Except in reality, you get the epic launcher, which manages to be more botnet than discord and origin combined.
>Epic makes new storefront to sell games based on their success of CuckNite
>Dis-botnet-cord decides to make a new store front based on their success of selling user's personal data
>Both stores poach games rather than develop exclusives.
>People talk how this is good since game developers can make more money on their games
>None of the savings are beneficial to the customer as developers don't change the price of their games even though less of a cut is taken by store font
Why is this a good thing? I am for competition and dislike Steam with a burning passion for ruining PC gaming, but to claim this is a win for consumers is a blatant lie.
I wish companies would go back to distributing games themselves again and not go through some middle man.
Games like ShitCraft made lots of money this way without going through a distributor, why do we even need storefronts for PC anyways? Publicity? Triple A games advertisement is everywhere why not just advertise buying directly through there site?