I took my time and analyzed my behaviors related to music: what I listen, why and how it determines me. I decided to share my studies with Nanochan to raise awareness of this subject. I know some will relate to it. Don't thank me, tell me what's your opinion.
I made two categories: woman and man singers, respectively. It actually makes difference at how we interpret these two sexes, as it actually attracts us sexually.
>woman singers
It's most appealing sexually to me as I'm men. This type of music is a bit like softcore porn (not that it arouses us but attracts like, say, drugs): I want to listen to these cutey voices in different tones and gorgeous beats (more of it later). No I don't want to fuck her, but listen and listen and... listen. It can get really addictive, but it's common sense, right? J-pop and K-pop work the best, no Western stuff can compete with it. I could listen to just few Japanese albums for year or more. I can't help how amazing are beats! Ehm, I wiped my collection to just stop. K-pop is the closest alternative and yeah I'm listening like fucker, but it's still not that. Similar, but different. Soon I will also stop with Korean music.
In other words: music is like porn but we don't get our dick wet.
>men singers
here I look for masculinity, like rappers that are straight riders and ain't no scared of anything. I'm not fag but I found it appealing men are strong, brave and do what they want. Now I understand why women want badboys and I find it in music. That's not the only reason of course, some are simply good without being masculine, but here we focus for sex part. Rap with both whites and niggers from all over the world does the job, they're essentially redpills. I'm not the type and that's why I find it so great.
In other words: You don't have to be fag to enjoy men music.
Conclusion: sex determines everything, maybe that's why girls like pussies and boys - whores. Whole industry benefits from it and surely they will deliver more of this.
>not listening to instrumental music
>not listening to demons whose voices resemble only agonized howling abominations
>not listening to gods whose voices order you to gnaw your tongue
Male- Most rappers today are gay. They take a large amount of cock up their ass by undercover jewcorps. They shill degeneracy among zoomers. Main stream is all nigger mumble rap, turning white people into niggers.
>muh young money
>muh hustlin
I stopped listening to the radio. Anything mainstream brain washes you not to breed and wants you to inherit a nihilistic view of the world. They want you to feel like your the victim and depress you.
Be careful what you put into your ears. Music can be a very positive stimulant, but a lot of it today is garbage. Jews silling out degeneracy. Promoting it. Normalizing it. Just because its on radio does not make it fact.
>>8312 >They want you to feel like your the victim and depress you
Mainstream songs indeed make me depressed, especially the (((happy))) ones. I don't listen to them unless I can do nothing about it (bus, family party) and I hate it. How can I be sad when everyone is dancing to it?
>>8314 >Just because its on radio does not make it fact
>listening radio
Please don't do it.
>mainstream rap is shit
http://archivecaslytosk.onion/2019.04.02-174101/http://www.songlyrics.com/death-grips/beware-lyrics/ >>8312 >mainstream is all nigger mumble rap
Why did it end like that? At least the first decade of rap was predominantly conscious and underground rap was still a thing.
>radio
You vastly overestimate the influence of big commercial radios, they are almost as influenceless as mtv if it wasn't for malls, bus drivers and whatever shit you can possibly deal with and most kids these days have these big-ass sony v-shaped headphones for hundreds of eurodollars with noise cancelling so they don't hear shit but you can hear theirs, and vastly underestimate spotify, jewtube, itunes and google music which gives you recommendations of "obscure", "underground" and "unknown" music which is none of it and is essentialy the same in slightly different wrapping. This is much bigger threat. Not to say artists usually have no official presence there. Right now at the moment I can hear numales on reddit screeching about the new and different, absolutely rad /nu/metal album by 99 kg 152 cm manlet which ultimately redefines what worst metal means to be. check this thread too maybe oxwugzccvk3dk6tj.onion/mu/res/99740.html >>8316 >Mainstream songs indeed make me depressed, especially the (((happy))) ones
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Although they usually make me after few minutes really, really nauseous. I don't even buy in stores where they play music. fuck this shit
Also if you don't like rap or consider rap too mild and laid back, consider grime. There's also a lot of whites in it and in my experience non-uk scenes are really sick full of spot-on commentary. song maybe included, I don't understand a word and can't find lyrics, but the first half is savage
Grime scene is full of trash too tho.
What is probably more interesting is to look at who wrote the song. I've noticed that the even though I listen to a few female singers, they all have male writers. The male singers I listen to generally write their own music. In this view, the female singer changes the quality of the song, but she doesn't fundamentally change the music. It's akin to shifting the song into a higher key, or playing it on a different instrument.
I dunno, I just listen to Carmina Burana by Carl Orff on the loop.
I also think European musical schools are superior to Asian (Italian one especially, those people are fucking mages). Like, Asians, mainly Japs, stole shit from Yuros and incorporated it into their own, but I still don't think they did it right, like, it's not as pleasing to my ears.
Though I belong to European culture and my views may be biased, I'm telling this having listened to a lot of Jap stuff. Asian, like J and K music is garb-, er, I mean, not as good.
Though I see the popular music talk here. What Js and Ks do on a high level is the music production. Sound design, editing and other ways to increase production value are very well performed.
Also I see later some interesting talks about happy-go-lucky music enforcing its attitude even when you don't want to. I think J and K do it even worse than Yuro pop. Probably has to do with Asians generally giving in to peer pressure way too easily, though I don't wanna pull this shit straight out of my fucking asshole, as I'm not that familiar with Oriental stuff. Though I believe their culture is more depressing on a fundamental level, like, that's why they need that anime BS to escape that shit and that's why anime is so good at what it's doing.
Also this band (or whatever Talulah Gosh/Heavenly is) predates most contemporary JK shit (I believe JKs stole from it or something similar) and is actually good. Like, I cannot resist this bittersweetness, this is absolutely insane. I don't believe many songs go for the double feeling at all. Also, cool beats LOL.
I like Cardiacs and instrumentals. What does that say about my sexuality, OP???????
I can't sympathize with you people who get off on art that is sexual yet repressed. Its pathetic. If I wanted anime that is sexually appealing I would go watch hentai. If I wanted to enjoy a show or music, I'd pick something with actual artistic merit instead. If the sexuallity is what attracts you to it, you might as well fap instead.
Any mainstream art is industrially produced generic waste or is overplayed to the point if revultion. Very few exceptions.
>>8336 I think you're talking BS, but hey, so does the OP.
First, OP is a fucking faggot, there is no doubt about that, and the way he tries to excuse himself is funny. Pop music is faggy in general. Understanding or pretending to understand "manly" sex appeal is the sign you're a fuken fagit if I ever seen one, simply by the definition of sexuality. Though you definitely don't have to be a fag to enjoy male vocals, like, WTF dude, it's just a voice dude.
Next, don't say that expression of sexuality isn't art, or I will shit on you big time.
And have you been living under a rock for last, like, half a century, dude? Do you define art as British nobility did or what the actual fuck did I just hear in that denial of postmodernism or whatever?
Like, it's not like there is no merit to it, that we cannot say X is shit and provide some arguments on why, but the way YOU present it is absolutely dogshit. In short: if people like it, there IS artistic merit, whether it appeals to the masses or not.
>>8340 I did not mean to imply expression of sexuality is not a valid art that can have merit, my mistake. It certainly can be. I have done that myself!
However if you like a song (conciously or subconsciously) mostly because the singer is sexually attractive, I think you're a pleb. That is the point I tried to make.
Is it still valid? Maybe. It doesn't mean the song is good though like some people I know would claim, in fact it would probably be better without the song. Likewise a ultra-fanservice anime may be better without repressing itself with a shitty plotline in a poor attempt to validate itself.
>>8336 You missed point. It's about attraction towards music through our sexual instinct. Not that one that makes you wet and horny but other. Let's say you see cute girl in shopping mall, you don't really want to have sex with her but wish to just look at her, without dirty thoughts. Producers are abusing that instinct in music and that's the reason it's so popular and pushed by (((them))).
>instrumentals
I might be a bit autistic right now but music itself (not vocals) can also feel like it's either feminine or masculine. Right now I'm listening to Mozart and it's rather neutral, but modern music has these signs. Maybe it's bias when I listen to song with female vocal then only instrumental, hard to tell.
>>8340 >the way he tries to excuse himself is funny
I wasn't trying, this was to tell I'm probably surely addicted to Asian pop music. Years of watching anime and listening to J-pop or K-pop desensitized my brain so I can't get "high" from normal music anymore. It will take some time for me.
>Understanding or pretending to understand "manly" sex appeal is the sign you're a fuken fagit
So what attracts girls then? Peaceful, cultural anon or redpilled Chad? Similar with music, it's the same thing but people are unaware of it.
>it's just a voice dude
And this is where you make a mistake and think about it superficially.
>>8333 >I also think European musical schools are superior to Asian
Honestly I don't even have a sample of their music so it's hard for me to tell. For some reason I mostly reason I ignored that part of the world for unknown reason.
>Asian, like J and K music is garb-, er, I mean, not as good
This is anonymous board, you can say anything you want. No one will be offended except for actual japs and gooks >Though I believe their culture is more depressing on a fundamental level, like, that's why they need that anime BS to escape that shit and that's why anime is so good at what it's doing
They don't recognize any limits in what they do so they'll deliver in most primitive way, that is sexually. We, white people, have some set of rules I guess in terms in entertainment and Asians don't necessary respect them and that's why their content can be found appealing. Especially "lol this is weird!" stuff.
>>8343 >see cute girl in shopping mall, you don't really want to have sex with her
You are a beta male.
>dirty thoughts
and a christcuck/moralfag.
When I see a cute girl anywhere, I want to put my dick in her and get her pregnant. This is what every normally functioning man should think.
>>8319 insight/10
>>8333 good taste fam good taste but use https://github.com/omarroth/invidious/wiki/Invidious-Instances like really
>asian, like J and K music is garb-, er, I mean, not as good
It's garbage.
>>8336 If you like cardiacs you are gay. It's as if you liked melt-banana or low.
>>8340 >X is shit and provide some arguments on why
An unmusical anarchy was led by poets who had natural talent, but were ignorant of the laws of music... Through foolishness they deceived themselves into thinking that there was no right or wrong way in music, that it was to be judged good or bad by the pleasure it gave. By their works and their theories they infected the masses with the presumption to think themselves adequate judges. ...the criterion was not music, but a reputation for promiscuous cleverness and a spirit of law-breaking. This is music in general right now. I usually judge music by the sheer amount of thoughts and emotions the music emanates both willingly and subjectively, the imagination it rabidly enforces, the deconstruction of reality it solicits, the intensity of expression, by the conflicting self-evolution of soundscape and such even tho I play.
Mainstream "music" fails everywhere. You can't dance to it, on the emotional side is not even as shallow as a good ol' puddle, employes awfully and unattractively repetitive dull sounds and/or is full of distracting voices and sedating noises obstructing analyzation of that shit not in playful way, locks you in reality and completely destroy the last shards of imagination ordinary philistine can have. Moreover is absolutely boring, interchangeable, completely lacks place and is digitalish, awfully mastered at that. It's just negative and sticky filler noise without any self-respect. German humour is enjoyable in comparison.
Maybe the point I'm trying to make is that it's not music at all.
>>8343 >attraction towards music through our sexual instinct
>just look at her, without dirty thoughts
Some latent desire to stand and watch/listen retarded people perform retarded "music"?
>>8344 Yes, we are animals with exclusively primal desires.
>>8348 >hur dur lol xd wow lmao im so smert an im better than all other biological creatures on the planet becuz im a h00men and i haz big brane
Pseudo-intellectual reddit faggots like you never cease to crack me up.
>>8309 This is the most retarded autistic gay shit I've read thia year, and I love it. Fukken saved
I wonder what you're reaction would be if you listened to Elena Siegman or Arch Enemy
>>8333 >Like, Asians, mainly Japs, stole shit from Yuros and incorporated it into their own, but I still don't think they did it right, like, it's not as pleasing to my ears.
They did it right with indie rock and metal tho, and that's all I care for
>>8309 >you don't have to be fag to enjoy men music
I think I understand what you're getting at here. Masculinity has been declared toxic by the cathedral, and rap is one of the few genres where it still exists and can be indulged in.
That said, I still think most popular modern music is shit. In the old days it wasn't good or anything but it was sung by The People, not just a few celebrities who happen to be attractive.
Also, after impressionism, music and all other "high art" went to shit and to this day only exists on the fringes, which is a tragedy.
As for myself, I just listen to classical, soundtracks, and prog rock sometimes.
>>8319 I want to add to what I said here with this song snippet and accompanying reasoning from the writer:
>The big bridge at the end, 'why wait for the weakened state to lie next to the weaker sex?', has nothing to do with the rest of the song, just a good line/universal truth. Kathryn is embarrassed that she had to sing it, yet only she could nail it the way it had to be nailed.
Basically you couldn't have a guy asking you why you aren't out fucking bitches, you need a women with a seductive voice asking you why you aren't chasing her down. Even though a women would never ask that of her own volition.
>>8343 I didn't miss the point, I agree with you.
When I see an ad or TV show or anything else that blatantly tries to abuse that instinct, I realize they are trying to manipulate people and it is revolting. Is this common?
I took my time and analyzed my behaviors related to music: what I listen, why and how it determines me. I decided to share my studies with Nanochan to raise awareness of this subject. I know some will relate to it. Don't thank me, tell me what's your opinion.
I made two categories: woman and man singers, respectively. It actually makes difference at how we interpret these two sexes, as it actually attracts us sexually.
>woman singers
It's most appealing sexually to me as I'm men. This type of music is a bit like softcore porn (not that it arouses us but attracts like, say, drugs): I want to listen to these cutey voices in different tones and gorgeous beats (more of it later). No I don't want to fuck her, but listen and listen and... listen. It can get really addictive, but it's common sense, right? J-pop and K-pop work the best, no Western stuff can compete with it. I could listen to just few Japanese albums for year or more. I can't help how amazing are beats! Ehm, I wiped my collection to just stop. K-pop is the closest alternative and yeah I'm listening like fucker, but it's still not that. Similar, but different. Soon I will also stop with Korean music.
In other words: music is like porn but we don't get our dick wet.
>men singers
here I look for masculinity, like rappers that are straight riders and ain't no scared of anything. I'm not fag but I found it appealing men are strong, brave and do what they want. Now I understand why women want badboys and I find it in music. That's not the only reason of course, some are simply good without being masculine, but here we focus for sex part. Rap with both whites and niggers from all over the world does the job, they're essentially redpills. I'm not the type and that's why I find it so great.
In other words: You don't have to be fag to enjoy men music.
Conclusion: sex determines everything, maybe that's why girls like pussies and boys - whores. Whole industry benefits from it and surely they will deliver more of this.