>>2189 >Strasserism (German: Strasserismus or Straßerismus) is a strand of Nazism that calls for a more radical, mass-action and worker-based form of Nazism—hostile to Jews not from a racial, ethnic, cultural or religious perspective, but from an anti-capitalist basis—to achieve a national rebirth. It derives its name from Gregor and Otto Strasser, the two Nazi brothers initially associated with this position.
Though this would've been a far more effective method to achieve "a national rebirth". I'll look a bit more into Strasser(ism), excuse my ignorance.
>>2202 There's hardly anyone human left on 8/pol/. Cuckchan has normalfags, if you can find them amongst the chatbots, JIDF and discord trannies. Almost every single website is overrun with the jews and their minions, and the real websites are mostly dead because redpilled anons have bled off to deal with real life. The internet is a hollow shell of what it once was.
>>2217 Ron fucked the board on purpose, and he actively worked to undermine it for years. They fed trannies and pills to hotwheels to make him give up the site, and now hotwheels is completely blackpilled and cucktholic.
>>2220 I just went to have a look at chode/pol/ and found a thread with a "national socialist tranny" in it. Not banned, not deleted. Left up for hours. That tranny is a board regular now and posts in all tranny-related threads.
The mods on 8chan are cucks or leftists, just like on 4chan. Say what (((you))) want about hapase but she can never be Ron-tier bad.
>inb4 t. hapase
>>2217 You mean the ones that tried and got removed or the ones that just gave up and coudn't be assed to go out in a big fashion? Yeah the pace sucks, but if every mod who wants to change the fact is removed, it's kinds the admins fault.
>>2218 Nah that was just some retards spamming "polvol6 is a girl" with no proof whatsoever, literally just this line, over a few weeks.
>>2199 >Muh honeypot
Ok, so here's the catalog on fucking nein/pol/ (pic related.
>jewgle craptcha for every post (you can't see it here because i disabled jabbascript)
>cucknet only, no hidden service
>tor posting is probably banned altogether
>4chan tier quality on all boards
Hapase, I know you're reading this post. Don't allow nanochan to turn into this. Not even 4cucks has cancer of this level.
>>2244 "Far right" is vague and doesn't mean anything. It can be anything from boomer civnats to anarchists. On a political compass, Hitler would appear in the middle.
Third position means neither capitalism nor communism. Both of these economic paradigms are jewish. The ideal economic system is basically just capitalism with some small elements of socialism (to funnel money towards projects that improve the wellbeing of the nation). For example, awarding families financial benefits for producing children.
This ideal economic system only functions when the number of parasitic elements is kept extremely low. Thus, nonwhites and degenerates must be removed.
>>2244 Really the only reason the third position has gained traction as a label or identifier is because of all the brain dead alt-kikes who blindly sperg out about anything they perceive as even remotely socialist or communist in any way possible. The "far right" today is an absolute cluster fuck and seems to be this weird crypto-anarcho libertarians who half assedly like ethno nationalism but are too scared to do anything about it. To me the third position most importantly acknowledges that economics should always without fail come secondary to the ethnic homogeneity of your nation, and it understands that socialist aspects can work quite well when your country isn't entirely comprised of subhuman mutts. The third position exists as a filter for larpers who shit their pants at the notion of legitimate fascism, so it's sort of an arbitrary term in a way.
Should, getting rid of bot accounts on social media be as important to reduce spam and stop the people who buy bots, from exerting propaganda control over the soft skulls of the average twitter user?
>implying the bot farms aren't either controlled by the sites or paying them to stay inactive on them
Sure would be nice, bu there's money to be made and as long as the bots work for the (((correct))) side of history...
>>2245 >third position means neither capitalism nor communism
Hitlerism is literally national capitalism.
>wellbeing of the nation
>awarding families financial benefits for producing children
You just described european socialism as is right now.
>number of parasitic elements is kept extremely low
hahaha
Arbeit macht frei, right? What the fuck does parasitic even mean? The whole concept of hitlerist national capitalism is fuckin parasitic you nigger.
>>2250 nigger
>>2246 Alt-kikes are artificially created opposition.
Better question is; can you faggots define what third position is? Because it's certainly not what the name implies and it's not the braindead kikery hitler pulled off.
>>2254 >can you faggots define what third position is?
It's what I said in >>2245 and what the other anon said in >>2246. You are a brain-dead kike who intentionally misunderstands everything we say.
>>2254 >You just described european socialism as is right now.
Yes. Traditional european socialism is fine if you're a xenophobic ethno state without any kike influence in your government. This is the point that the third position is making. I'm not really sure what you're asking. Are you asking for the dictionary definition of what the third position literally means or what? I'm also not sure why you're saging and making it more difficult for the conversation to take place. Your entire demeanor is incredibly confusing.
>>2257 >It emphasizes opposition to both communism and capitalism. Advocates of Third Position politics typically present themselves as "beyond left and right" while syncretizing ideas from each end of the political spectrum.
That's exactly what europe is right now. Is eu third-positionist?
Is eg poujadism third position?
Is everything that does the same as greentext third position? You can't just throw "third position" all around when it's vague, vague as fuck that it could mean almost anything. It doesnẗ even imply any socialist intentions.
>intentionally misunderstands everything we say
no
>>2257 >Your entire demeanor is incredibly confusing.
Thanks.
>2258
>That's exactly what europe is right now. Is eu third-positionist?
No because the EU isn't a hyper nationalist ethno state. Literally in the very next sentence of the wikipedia article you're quoting this is explained. In fact, in the very same sentence this is explained, you just chose to end the sentence prematurely in your quote.
>You can't just throw "third position" all around when it's vague
The third position is a spectrum of ideologies that all agree on a hyper ethno nationalist approach. It's not nearly as complex as you're trying to make it out to be.
>>2259 >chose to end the sentence prematurely in your quote
Usually isn't always and I dare to say that reactionaries are pure politics, reactionaries are not third position.
>all agree on hyper ethno nationalist approach
True. But that's very, very weak shared point.
>It's not nearly as complex as you're trying to make it out to be.
Not complex at all, yes, but strasserism and hitlerism were mortal enemis. Front national is incompatible with much more based Troisième voie. And that's just the tip of iceberg. But it's like saying trockyism is leninism. It's bullshit.
Far-rightists love the Jews; national-socialists don't. Other than that, yes, national-socialism is far-rightist.
The defining, fundamental principle of socialism is the means of production (forgive the Marxist terminology) are owned by the workers. The workers don't own the means of production under national-socialism, therefore it is not socialist. The term national-socialism is deceptive. National-socialism is merely fascist capitalism.
Though, it doesn't suffice to call national-socialism national-capitalism, as national-capitalism is an oxymoron: capitalism is inherently globalist (the globalism we see today is a direct affect of capitalism). National-socialists falsely believe, firstly, that Jews are the undesirable element in society, i.e. they mistake the Jews for the capitalists, and secondly, that capitalism can be confined to a nation. Just look at China, a fascist, capitalist state, where the Jews have little influence (but the capitalists have great influence), and where, despite China's best attempts under Mao (which lead to famine, the Cultural Revolution, etc.), capitalism is no less globalist. If you want to envisage a national-socialist state, imagine China, except all the ching-chongs are 'Aryans'. (And just as the term national-socialism is deceptive, so too is the name Communist Party of China.)
>>2264 >anything that resembles a police state is automatically socialist because everyone told me socialism is bad and fascism is also bad or something
China has next to no socialist policies. It's simply a police state with all the negatives of rampant unchecked capitalism. China discourages and outright prohibits productive social behavior in some instances. In China you are literally fucking prohibited from having children, in a socialist ethno state you are rewarded. In China you are discouraged from helping people dying in the streets because it makes you liable for them. You are literally forced to not help people dying in front of you. The very infrastructure of China is collapsing in on itself because the government refuses to fix basic shit. Why do you think there are thousands of chink accident videos online where people are falling through escalator and shit. There isn't a single aspect of China that even remotely resembles any Axis power. You're an absolute idiot.
>>2249 Hm, I think the Jewish conspiracy is trying very hard to get people of Facebook lately it seems, the non-attacks on Facebook appear very inorganic to me and it seems to be all targeted at Facebook, but not Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Apple, or whatever other corporation that's doing the same exact shit as Facebook and worse.
Though Facebook is shit, but still it seems to be very inorganic and coordinated.
>>2263 >police-surveillance state
>fascist capitalism
You know jack shit about National Socialism, get out.
>subhuman insectoids like it
They like happiness as well, should we forbid that as well.
>>2265 Clearly, you've understood nothing of what I wrote. I didn't claim China has any 'socialist policies'. You are not prohibited from having children in China: in the 60s, having children was encouraged, but the population grew too much, so they implemented the two-child policy, then the one-child policy, and now the two-child policy again. Most of the public infrastracture in China is quite good. Escalators and such are de facto private property -- it is not the states to fix.
In what way do you become liable for someone if you help them in the street? Do you need to pay their medical bills? No. I don't know what you're talking about here.
And what exactly does an Axis power look like?
>>2267 Where I'm mistaken, feel free to correct me.
>>2265 You are literally saying that proper social policies justify police state.
>rampant unchecked capitalism
No capitalism is good, capitalism can't be good, checked or unchecked.
>In China you are literally fucking prohibited from having children, in a socialist ethno state you are rewarded.
Yeah, in overpopulated white ethnostate you will certainly be rewarded for adding to the overpopulation.
>the rest
What are you talking about?
>axis power
What is it? Superpower?
>>2267 >They like happiness as well, should we forbid that?
You yourself said chinks like to be bootlickers. Now you are saying you are bootlicker and it's a-ok because you are white. Why is it bad for a chink to be a bootlicker and good for a white?
>>2269 It isn't bad for a chink to do anything besides exist outside of their home country. Literally nothing a chink does matters as they are so unbelievably far removed from whites genetics that comparing the two as if vaguely similar political ideologies closes that gap is simply absurd.
>>2270 Are you a racist? I am, but I consider them humane because they are humans. You are talking about chinks as if they were completely different species. It has nothing to do with muh "aryan" genetics. There's as much whites with slave morality as chinks, if not more, and no matter the race, they have the same priorities.
>vaguely similar political ideologies
You wish.
Anyway, thanks for confirming that you are bootlicker.
>>2271 >You are talking about chinks as if they were completely different species.
I live in one of the most densely chink populated areas in all of western civilization. Chinks are not humans, they are insects. They are a hive of retards who feel no empathy. Try being surrounded by chinks all day every single day, you'll very quickly start to equate them to jews in their level of malice. They are spineless rats who will watch someone bleed out in the street without even considering calling an ambulance. They will steal from you and attempt to put the blame on you. Your understanding of chinks very clearly comes from limited experience with them. I don't really care if you think I'm bullshitting or exaggerating, you'll have to take my word for it. But chinks in large numbers are infinitely worse in the flesh than anything you could have read online about them. I would sooner equate a niggers thought process to a whites than I would a chinks.
>>2276 Thanks, I haven't really met many Chinese people in my live, and the sense I got from watching YouTube channels of people who have been in China a long time is that they're less (capable of being) civilized than Europeans.
But might this be due to the Cultural Revolution, and the Great Leap Backwards? I'm not too familiar with the pre-Communist China.
>>2277 I live in aus where there are a lot of chinks.
The ones who try to assimilate into society turn into insufferable SJWs blathering about white privilege and all the other bluehair crap. One came to my school in the past week and started preaching about how we should (((acknowledge our privilege))).
The chinks who don't assimilate are retarded and backwards. They just came for economic benefits.
Chinks are not better than any other nonwhite race. They are ugly, weak, dirty and they throw rubbish everywhere. A lot of /pol/ boards have the misconception that the chinese are somehow acceptable. They aren't.
>>2276 I have a lot of experience with vietnamies and mongols as there's lot of them in my country, no experience with chinks at all. I haven't read anything about chinks, only their earlier philosophers, notably Zhuangzi, as he's my favorite, some stuff from Mao and few novellas from the first chinese minister of culture, Shen Yanbing.
Mongols are somewhat violent due to their tribalistic pride and vietnamese, well, they are. I definitely don't like them, but I wouldn't say they are not humane. In my experience they all differ one from other, just like whites.
>They are spineless rats who will watch someone bleed out in the street without even considering calling an ambulance. They will steal from you and attempt to put the blame on you.
You perfectly described czechs right now. This level of apathy and total indefference is very popular in former communist bloc. I hate to break it for you, but I think it's mainly due to their cultural fuckup more than due to muh genetics.
>>2277 >But might this be due to the Cultural Revolution, and the Great Leap Backwards?
Yes.
>>2279 Yep, they came for money. Btw that's the first time I heard some chinks turned into sjws.
>>2281 >I wouldn't say they are not humane
Think again. In QLD one of the disgusting bugwomen contaminated a large number of strawberries with sewing needles. A fair number of people suffered injuries from eating them. Here's a screencap from (((CNN))).
<My Ut Trinh
>>2286 >Hitler gassed millions of jews and of other races
Zyklon B was only used to delouse clothing in specialized gas chambers, the big lie of the Holocaust is full of impossibilities and inconsistencies, please visit:
Also watch Hellstorm''' regarding the fire-bombing of mostly children, elderly and women in mayor German cities. Which could be regarded as the actual Holocaust (meaning burnt offering)
Opinions on WALK? A new general is up on cripplechan/pol/.
Basically
>Go to a popular or notable location such as the local park in your area at certain days and times
>Wear something that would be identifiable but discrete, such as a white belt or white shirt.
>Walk around and act normally
>Try to spot and signal anons
<implying they're white or non-degenerate if that is even possible in clown world >Walk and talk with said anons, if any
>Aryans networked
<left wing destroyed
Seen the threads pop up for a while and the /meadhall/ general isn't too bad. It seems innocuous to me. Any real life action comes with real life consequences, and paranoia, especially in the JewSA, is abundant.
>>2293 Interesting idea but it needs something to stop cuckchan memester hyper-autists from fucking it up. Also the imagery should be more distinctive, literally anyone could wear this. We need a combination e.g. white belt + green socks + blue shirt which would make it less likely that you make a mistake and talk to someone who isn't in on the plan.
>>2301 >more distinct combination
Yeah, I believe it was toned down deliberately and added in signals that wouldn't raise suspicions if it wasn't an anon (however see below).
>preventing hyper-autists from being autistic.
I wish I had a faint idea. The current thread up has mention of, if all else fails, posting on cuckchan in the summer. most likely it'll get deleted or spammed to oblivion
>>2276 >not humans, they are insects
>a hive of retards who feel no empathy
>spineless rats who will watch someone bleed out in the street without even considering calling an ambulance
You have just described any megalopolis dweller anywhere. Abnormally high population density does that to humans, and pretty much any animal. Most of the Chinese live in extremely populated mega-cities, hence apathy and zero trust.
Remember, the Chinese are not a singe people, but dozens of peoples speaking mutually unintelligible "dialects" as separate from each other as Germanic languages. Go try and understand an Icelander, try to relate to him and such, with no common tongue.
So the Chinese show how a society of highly urbanized people of diverse origins forced to live close to each other behaves. About like
>a hive of retards who feel no empathy
This is the American immediate future. Hell, probably a reality already in places like NYC.
>>2332 >You have just described any megalopolis dweller anywhere.
Tokyo is similarly crowded. While living conditions aren't very good in terms of overwork and stress, I find it hard to believe that a jap from over there would randomly run over people and then drive away because he doesn't want to pay the medical bill, like chinks do all the time.
The Japs have boni of 1)mostly not being poor and angry and 2)being of common stock and culture. So their crowding is ameliorated a bit.
Probably also a bonus of not having an insane dictatorship randomly purging people, thus killing their trust, at least since the US occupation. I don't recall Imperial Japan being a particularly nice place to live, it was Modern China-lite in many regards.
For the Chinks, it was either absolute loyalty to your secret society and fuck everyone else, or, well, everyone else were there to fuck you. Add urban overcrowding and you're set.
East Asians in general are some of the most domesticated people in the world. Look up the "Domestication Syndrome", and you'll see why they're such "insects".
>>2374 That's all nice, yeah, but doesn't mean that you have to suck dick of government or anyones else.
You are reffering more to common sense, the glorified myopia, and self-domestication. It's easier to bend over and it's hard to stand up when the platforms are against you, and when self-domesticated people will hunt you down for standing up because that would mean they are dumbinos.
That's more a stockholm syndrome, symptom of self-domestication. This all has to do with slave morality and not with social evolution.
>>2366 Organization and activism. The history of natsoc show clearly what we need to do to gain power but nothing will happen unless you lazy cowards actually do something.
>>2402 And what is it that we need to do? History is not very helpful as Hitler's situation was completely different.
Are you a lazy coward too or are you doing something? What are you doing?
>>2402 >The history of natsoc show clearly what we need to do to gain power
And also shows (((them))) how it happens and how to counter it. You don't think yourself to be the only person ever to read history books, do you?
You will not have your nation-wide translation of NatSoc ideals straight from the courtroom after your very own Munich Putsch. You will get precisely zero coverage, as well as zero support from people who had been waging wars for Israel for two generations already, unlike Hitler, who also didn't happen to get ass-raped to death by Gorilla-Americans specifically planted there waiting for him.
Hell, half of your activists will be FBI plants anyway. You might as well be a (un)willing plant. Shaming people to do something without providing any clear plan or goal is provocateur 101 or at best a sofa warrior LARPing.
>>2439 I'm the guy that has his own shilling thread (>>>/pol/1790) trying to activate passive nationalists. We do what we can to spread awareness and project power on the streets. People follow the strong. Nobody will follow us unless they feel it's safe to do so and they'll never feel safe unless we show them it's safe. Unless we make it safe. Notice how the American nationalist "movement" was left alone until the moment you tried taking to the streets (Charlottesville)? That's because ZOG doesn't fear internet thinkers, it fears losing the streets. Antifa barely exists in Scandinavia and that's largely thanks to our activists. But most importantly, organization is paramount. It doesn't really matter what you do as long as you build an organization capable of mobilizing a hard core of in-it-for-life nationalists, to do what needs to be done exactly when it needs to be done. Revolutions (peaceful or otherwise) doesn't happen spontaneously. They are planned and organized. If France had a nationalist organization like ours right now then they could easily steer the yellow vest movement towards an actual revolution. But they don't so the yellow vests will eventually die out and France will have to wait until the next opportunity, if there'll ever be another. Mark my words, the first natsoc revolution will take place in Scandinavia. You're lagging behind.
>>2441 >The Jews anticipate us taking the obvious road, therefore we must do nothing.
Defeatists kys.
>>2446 >The Jews anticipate us taking the obvious road,
YES, I'm getting heard over here, noice...
>therefore we must do nothing
... Are you for real. False dichotomy is false. By getting yourself noted in activist organizations is willingly going on the NDA to-watch list. In modern age of mass surveillance and big data, any centralized organization is done for, it can be easily monitored via observing their leaders, couping as needed.
This is why the Yellow Vests are not a centralized organization AND they managed in 6 months what NatSoc didn't manage in the USA in 60 years. The way forward is decentralized personal activism based on ready-made guides, where you meat people anonymously by dogwhistes outlined in the guides. Hierarchy and face-open activism is done for, waaay too easy to snoop on a proto-Hitler and dispose of him in infancy.
Hitler and parteigenosse didn't live in the era where every Weimerite of note carried a personal tracking device that can also make phone calls while having invisible slaves track your speech for key-words and compare across databases of everything of note.
>now then they could easily steer the yellow vest movement towards an actual revolution
They can't steer if they hedda gets shot preemptively. You don't think the state of France won't immediately assassinate or disappear a person if it means difference between common disorder and outright national revolution? This is why the Yellow Vests are still alive and busting, there are no heads to chop out of this beast. But if you ever got noted in any nationalist organization of note, be sure you have your very own Excel slot on the lists ranging from "note taken" to "kill if SHTF".
>>2449 Sounds like you've thought this through. Tried it yet? Did it work? I bet you haven't. I bet it won't. I wouldn't trust an anonymous self proclaimed national activist from the internet, would you? But I do trust my comrades with my life. They have proven themselves reliable time and time again. This trust is what separates whites from the other races. Building an organization without trust is like building a society of brown skins. Doesn't work.
>>2452 You think the revolution will be without risks? Without sacrifice? If you treasure your life so much you're not willing to risk it for your race, that is so much bigger and more important than you, how can you call yourself a nationalist? Truth is you're not even willing to risk your own discomfort for your race. You're scared. The sooner you realize this the sooner you can overcome it.
>>2454 >Tried it yet?
I've seen people try it in my Eastern European shithole. They ded. As in fertilizer ded. You will be too when SHTF. It just happened that the shithole in question was already full SHTF, so it happened pretty soon. Why? Because they had an open power structure and openly trained youth to become a nationalist army of an organization that openly called it an army. It got treated as one - officers ded, troops scattered and on file. Golly Jee, who would have thought. And that was years before the Internet and the databases went mainstream and made collecting and processing intel on dissidents that much easier.
Obvious leaders=you are fucked. Open activism=taken of note to be fucked when SHTF.
>ou think the revolution will be without risks? Without sacrifice?
There is calculated risk and there is suicidal risk. Those who took the latter can at least serve as en example.
>If you treasure your life so much you're not willing to risk it for Allah how can you call yourself a mujaheed
Because brainwashing lemmings to off themselves is a waste of resources when the enemy had several magnitude more lemmings, a criminal waste of very limited human resource at that.
>Truth is you're not even willing to risk your own discomfort for your race
Truth is I have enough IQ points to plan ahead and learn from those who got ded from improper methods. If a big ass bear mauls a man to death in open combat, you don't start an open combat with the bear. Unless you are a suicidal idiot, or got tricked into a suicidal idiocy. Pick your poison.
>>2366 To answer your question - going into politics as open NatSoc is suicidal. If it would ever work, it would had already. Since WW2 NatSocs have had 0 success for that reason. You don't go to play on your enemy's field by the enemy's rules. You don't go to a party, you don't enroll into databases and lists, you don't expose your fucking face under pre-tailored symbols that might as well be gun sights pointing at you.
You network. You find activities the right people like to engage in. You go there, engage in it and make some friends. You build rapport and become a hub for a network on call for its members. Mostly to spend time together building shit in Minecraft.
You don't ram their faces with the dick of ideology, you discuss and practice proper lifestyle and build mutual insurance. Eventually you will link with likemind network via your own search or having one of your members as a linking node. And you play Minecraft co-op.
>>2457 I asked you if your tactics have been tried yet. (The one about magical anonymous organization.) Because I'm telling you it won't work. Our tactics have been tried for the 20 years of our organization's history and they work brilliantly. We grow constantly and we stay legal so they haven't been able to get us yet. Of course you'll get fucked if you declare yourself an army, what did they expect? I'm not advocating armed revolution, I'm advocating legal political organization. The time for unconventional tactics is when they make conventional struggle impossible (which will happen sooner or later, but it haven't yet). The law is a great cover for growth, use it while you can. Your idea of underground networking is great and a solid first step, you really should get started on that. That's exactly what we do only we also have the balls to show ourselves and be honest with our intentions. If you don't, you'll never build the people's movement necessary for taking power. But by all means, you also need a hard core of activists so underground networking is legit. Establish a healthy culture and an ideology and build yourselves as individuals and as a group. Sooner or later you must enter the public arena though if you're playing to win. Merely sustaining isn't enough. Really, go ahead and do it, I'll cheer you on all the way. Just don't waste your efforts by building yet another retarded subculture. Build a serious political activist cadre.
>>2459 Yes. So go ahead and do it. Don't just talk, do it.
>>2458 >Minecraft
Is this a codeword or are all National Socialists 12 year olds?
Of course you wouldn't enter politics wearing a Nazi armband.
I realize, now, that my question was rather foolish: politics is the only way to promote National Socialist change, any other way (if there is any other way) is futile and won't achieve our goals. Existing underground will ensure you never attain political influence; pop your head out to organize, (and play Minecraft) as you suggest, ensures you become a target of the current political establishment and of (((Antifa))), when you gain any of the wanting political influence. It's a catch-twenty-two.
The question still remains: how to gain political influence (and not be a target)?
And what do you do after organizing? Playing Minecraft doesn't do anything. How do I even find other National Socialists near me without being put on a list?
>>2462 >politics is the only way to promote National Socialist change, any other way (if there is any other way) is futile and won't achieve our goals
Thank you. This needs to be realized.
>how to gain political influence (and not be a target)
You don't. Accept being a target. It's fun. You will realize what it feels like to be alive. If you're constantly afraid of ZOG repercussions you will get nowhere. Become antifragile. Growth through adversity. Also realize that ZOG isn't all mighty. I've been openly active for years now and still haven't been found out. (Much thanks to a non existent public internet footprint.)
>what do you do after organizing?
Build your bonds. Build yourselves. Martial arts is great for both. Agree on an ideology (national socialism obviously, but there are loads of details to straighten out). Do local/regional activism to attract fellow radicals. Integrate them into the group. Repeat. What's most important isn't how you affect politics or public opinion. What's most important it the social infrastructure you build. It's a resource that can be drawn upon later when needed. Contact other organizations that you look up to and that have gotten further than you. They can be a source of inspiration and advice.
>How do I even find other National Socialists near me without being put on a list?
That's the crux, isn't it? You can't. Or at least it's very hard. That's why I advocate open (and legal) political organization. I'm not pulling all of this out of my ass, I draw from decades of experience of my peers and superiors. We have seen movements come and go, most things have been tried. Our way works.
>how to gain political influence (and not be a target)
<<You don't. Accept being a fertilizer. It's fun.
I am sure decomposing into basic nutrients while feasted over by worms is most fun. Gonna trust your word and leave it at that, glownigga.
>>2462 Set your priorities first. Uncle Lenny outlineв three factors for a successful revolution to occur - the Upper Class can't rule as efficiently as before (and starts devouring itself while rearranging the Matrix), the Lower Class is destitute enough to risk lives for a change (and becomes paws of Upper Class rivalry for ever smaller wealth gains). An outline:
1. Economic destitution pauperizes the Lower Class and cuts gains of the Upper Class
2. The Upper Class loses cohesion from splintering into rival factions over decreasing revenue from Lows to Highs
3. The Lower Class is poor enough to become agitated pawns of the Upper Class cliques
THEN you intrude with your prepped underground cadre to crystallize the Lower Class against the Upper Class in totality WHEN the Upper Class is fractured enough by rivalry and/or hasn't finished reorganizing its power structure.
Until then you build your cadre underground and wait for the revolutionary situation to occur, or better yet actively try to cause it.
Before than, you can't have any political power unless a pawn of an already established Upper Class player (and then he has the power, and you are the tool). Unaligned forces striving for political power while not exploiting a revolutionary situation are dead meat.
>>2465 In other words, ignore the complacent middle class as agents of change, yes? From what I've seen, they've only motivation not to be negatively socially mobile and won't tamper with a system that serves them well enough to avoid feelings of desperation.
>>2465 >fertilizer
This world where nationalists are assassinated left and right is a construction in your head. It's just not true and it won't become true even if you repeat it five more times. Show me examples of these dead overground, legal nationalist organizations. Proof or it didn't happen.
>THEN you intrude with your prepped underground cadre to crystallize the Lower Class against the Upper Class in totality WHEN the Upper Class is fractured enough by rivalry and/or hasn't finished reorganizing its power structure. Until then you build your cadre underground and wait for the revolutionary situation to occur
Solid idea. I like your analysis. No sarcasm. However, like mentioned in an earlier post it will be hard to build a movement completely underground. I mean, how do you advertise something that's secret? But if you think you'll overcome that hurdle, I'm all for it. Try it.
>or better yet actively try to cause it
Haha oshit nigger, here we go. It's your ideas that will get you killed, not mine. An above ground legal organization is protected both by law and by public opinion. ZOG can't do more than harass you because flagrantly breaking the law or using assassination will draw the attention of the public. They don't dare to risk that even if they technically can. An underground illegal organization on the other hand, like you're proposing, will get snuffed in its infancy. Stop larping and get real.
>>2471 >ignore the complacent middle class
More or less. We've found they are too cowardly to risk their livelihoods. We have some valuable middle class members that contribute from backstage but the organizational core are mainly working class.
Have anyone seen Les statues meurent aussi(Statues Also Die)?
>1953 French essay film directed by Alain Resnais, Chris Marker, and Ghislain Cloquet about historical African art and the effects colonialism has had on how it is perceived
I'm curious if there are any anons with refined tastes and what's /pol/s opinion on it.
in case anyone is interested, here's the magnet:?xt=urn:btih:3e76e99bf5a5b0ff9c49dd2f7904be71e5c3e47f&dn=Les.Statues.Meurent.Aussi.1953.DVDRip.x264-HANDJOB.mkv&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.cyberia.is%3A6969%2Fannounce
>An above ground legal organization is protected both by law and by public opinion
>Legal Nazi
>Legal
>protected by law
And he calls me a larper, what a lolissimous notion. Have a good trip to Waco, my legal law abiding Nazi friend.
>>2486 Yes, national socialism is legal in most countries. And if it isn't there are lots of little tricks to get around the technicalities. There are active national socialists in Germany for example, only they call themselves "national revolutionary socialists" and they're getting away with it. Now answer my questions. Show me the dead legal movements. Tell me how an underground movement will grow and work.
>>2487 Assassinating political dissidents isn't very popular, either. They won't risk it while there are other options.
>>2475 Coupled with increased frustration by the limitations of political engagement comes the rise of more terroristic groups such as Atomwaffen Division, a militant neo-Nazi group linked to several murders. They and others have brought a less hierarchical and more disorderly structure to white supremacist activism, which makes them both harder to track and to control. Known as “leaderless resistance”, it has been a tactic of white supremacists for decades and lead to events such as the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, but has been made exponentially easier by the internet.
“Leaderless resistance totally changes recruitment strategy,” said Belew.
“No longer is the movement trying to generate a mass protest of uniformed members. This movement isn’t interested in a crowd but in a dedicated cell of 12 people that are going to devote their lives to guerrilla warfare.”
>>2566 >Known as “leaderless resistance”, it has been a tactic of white supremacists for decades and lead to events such as the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing
mossad false flag
>>2276 >I don't really care if you think I'm bullshitting or exaggerating, you'll have to take my word for it.
Not bullshit, nor exaggeration. I have lived in a predominately chink region and even shared a house with them, and it is exactly as you describe. Chinks are despicable creatures; if they are fewer in number than you then they are bearable to be around, but if they have more numbers than you they will treat you with utter contempt. They don't even try to hide it. I have met many tens of chinks and there are only two of them (one man and his wife) that I consider to be passable human beings - they were a pair of Christfag chinks that were completely separated from the hive. In general, though, chinks are really bad news, particularly when they establish a stronghold on an area demographically. I despise the insectoid faggots more than any other race except jews.
>>2597 You should have 1) said what your own opinion is 2) then ask what other natsoc think instead of asking as if you were not natsoc and as if natsoc is hivemind.
>>2598 I am unsure of my opinions on environmentalism, which is why I ask the question. Sorry for my phrasing of the question, but I am not an English native speaker, and didn't realize that I was phrasing it is such a way to imply that I was not a national socialist or that national socialists are a hivemind.
>>2595 (((Climate change))) is made up, so that (((they))) don't get incinerated again, because 'burning Jews has a negative impact on the environment!'
Deforestation is good, because you can produce lots of books, and books make the best bonfires.
>>2602 Deforestation is not good. Wood is a great fuel but it needs to be managed in a non-niggardly way. Forests should be replanted after wood harvesting to maximize resource yields for the next round of harvesting.
Environmentalism has become a bad word. I propose the term Conservation, since its less muddied by people jockeying for political and moral brownie points. While conservationism originated in North America, I believe this stewardship mentality toward your nation's land — and the ecosystems it sustains — should be a natural extension of the values of every nationalist movement. If you don't love your nation's land enough to pass it to your children in at least as good a state (if not better) than you received it, you are a traitor and a living blight to your race.
Climate change isn't made up but an inevitable norm. Glaciers and polar caps are melting. But there was also a mini ice age in the memory of some of your grandparents and great grandparents. What is almost certainly made up is the seemingly collective obsession with laying climate change at the feet of "anthropogenic" causes, and it is on this point that (((they))) are using this as supranational leverage to bring your country and its people to heel. More importantly, climate change is an excuse to overlook far more pressing and immediate environmental concerns, like dramatic habitat destruction, air and water pollution, and agricultural practices that threaten to make all arable land unfit for other unchecked commercial enterprise into monocultures subsidized by a harmonious blend of altered crops and chemicals — both typically manufactured by the very same (((companies))) — that must work hand in hand to render the kind of food output needed to support a rapidly growing population of non-white people.
It's your world today, anon. But tomorrow it won't be. What kind of world do you want to see and pass to your children? Find it in your heart to be a conservationist and to see the natural world around you as more than merely raw resources for products, and indeed the loins from which you were born.
>>2786 Nice views, which I can mostly agree with, thanks. But I don't think we should not use the word environmentalism just because (((they've))) made it a bad word. Using synonyms to avoid the connotations of a certain word is (((political correctness))), which is a manipulative and deceptive strategy, and is detestable.
>>2786 You don't conserve forests as if they were a preserve to use later. Also too close to conservaties cucking everything.
There is a good word already, permaculture. Permanent-culture. Means you actually plan to receive gains from nature permanently, not just strip-mine everything then die and leave it to your kiddies to deal with toxic fumes and poisonous waters over barren deserts, like some desert roach.
For now, permaculture is just "upgraded" agriculture, an agriculture loaded with sustainable living and eco-cycle in mind. But it can be built upon. A way to provide for sustainable living, without fear of running out of rare oils or poisoning the ground beyond saving.
It also leads to China being world leader in pollution, closely followed by India and West Africa. One of them pollutes way more than every European, American and Oceanian state combined, and then there are three of them.
If India at least pretends to give a fuck, neither niggers nor chinks do.
So what are we gonna do? If plastics and toxins from China are already everywhere already up seals' asses in Greenland even?
>>2873 Q is a psy-operative pretending to be an anonymous intelligence operative pretending to diverge secret info on how Trump secretly works to "drain the swamp" while openly abandoning his every promise and making everything worse. 4D chess, have faith! Such spooky occult information presented openly on Reddit, no less. This is like Putin being presented as "the White Race leader" while he oppresses ethnic Russians in any way possible and swamps cities in Central Asians and Caucasians.
>>3009 >permaculture
Tell that to porkies and governments. They don't care about "sustainable living".
>china
It's silly to scapegoat chinese when america and europe vassal totally embraced chinese export capitalism.
>>3010 Traitors rarely steal just one thing. If they're not ruining your heritage, they're ruining your nature, and privatize everything so they can legally steal it from you with the backing of force from your own State.
If you hold the environment dear as part of your cultural legacy, you've more than adequate moral ground to purge traitors even if you pretended to ignore their other infractions.
>>3020 He's a dickhead who killed a bunch of children. He's considered a hero because dickheads revere other dickheads who kill innocent people for no justifiable reason.
>>3024 He's an Aryan who killed a bunch of commie children. He's considered a hero because Aryans revere other Aryans who kill innocent commies for no justifiable reason.
t. redpilled non-soyboy
>>3010 >Tell that to porkies and governments
<Asking something of people who want you enslaved
Who cares what they think. Short of ecofascists overthrowing them the only sustainable way of living is going inna country and doing your eco-friendly business there.
>It's silly to scapegoat chinese when america and europe vassal totally embraced chinese export capitalism.
Having accomplices does not absolve of responsibility. Let me give you an metaphor - China murders and gets paid for it by US and EU. All are guilty, but of different crimes.
>>3016 >Why is it still a thing after pinochet?
Why would you leave anything to unaccountable people who use monopoly of violence to enslave you? Pino man was the least evil option left. He WAS chill with Allende at first, until the massive strikes by the dispossessed owners.
AnCap rightfully states that it is ethical to compensate for each and any harm caused by your property by pollution, that is restore lost value and any value not accrued because of the losses, using violence where due process fails. So some planet-wide crusade against polluting communist hellholes is approved not just by the likes of Hoppe.
>>3020 He killed children of invaders, ruining many years of manpower used to indoctrinate and raise them, and also some accomplices to traitors in power. Read his manifesto, he was just a kid who happened to grow in Oslo of late 80's full of Pakistani and Algerian trash who constantly abused locals.
Out of his kill-list only one common Norwegian was killed when he detonated that truck bomb before the Norwegian parliament.
What does this board being about national socialism have to do with anti-white posts not being tolerated?
Non-cumskins can be national socialists too, the two aren't exactly mutually exclusive.
What is the reason Facebook is attacked so much by the Jewish mainstream media lately, because it is too hard to control speech and want to shut it and other broadcast mediums down? Or possibly because Mark Zuckerberg doesn't have a Jewish wife and see him as a 'race' traitor?
The concerns raised by the Jewish media is retarded IMO, there are way more concerning corporations/agencies which do not get the same amount of attention Facebook has been getting lately.
>>3020 >but what did Anders Breivik do and why is he considered a hero?
He was used in a hoax shooting supposedly killing Norwegian teenagers and young adults which were anti-Israel. He was himself a Freemason and a Zionist which was concerned by anti-Israel sentiment.
He's only considered a hero by retards and shills.
What are nations? Shared heritage? Language and mentality? Omnipresent political traditions and philosophical leanings?
Do they even exist so they can be revived?
Note that even the first natsoc regime, hitlerian, completely disrespected nations.
Also note that they proved to not be viable in any way, as was seen in history when germans and french were forcefully created and as is seen now when nations were dissolved into races.
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