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Secure smartphone OP No.2110 [D][U][F][S][L][A][C] >>3688 >>3758
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How would you go about making a smartphone secure/anonymous? There's of course no way to make a phone completely secure but what would you do to at least make it harder for ZOG to track my mobile activities, and to pin your phone to your identity?

Nanonymous No.2111 [D]

Put it in a lead box when you're not using it. I'm not kidding.
On the software side of things: Root your phone (but not using some chink spyware), install Termux, install F-Droid, delete or disable every app related to jewgle or jewgle services (especially jewgle services framework and jewgle play).

Nanonymous No.2112 [D]

Don't use the factory ROM.
FLASH A NEW ONE ON.
USE OLDER HARDWARE.

OP No.2113 [D] >>2114 >>2116 >>2209

What I've come up with so far is
>buy new phone with cash
>go somewhere with wifi not related to your identity
>tape over cameras
>turn off location
>stay offline
>uninstall or disable all google shit and useless/suspicious apps
>remove all default permissions
>connect to wifi
>install apps

What's next? Apps?
>orfox
>signal
>k-9 mail
>F-droid
>some alternative keyboard

Nanonymous No.2114 [D] >>2115

>>2113
nibba dont use the stock rom

Nanonymous No.2115 [D]

>>2114
Which one then?

Nanonymous No.2116 [D] >>2117

>>2113
None of that will stop them from triangulating your location from the cell signals. This isn't a conspiracy theory, it's known to happen, because e.g. police and firefighters can detect your location from cell phone calls. You have to electromagnetically isolate the phone whenever you're not using it.

Nanonymous No.2117 [D] >>2118

>>2116
Even without SIM? If I'm only using wifi?

Nanonymous No.2118 [D] >>2119

>>2117
Yes. You can still do emergency calls right? That means it's still connected. Phones are inherently botnet and a lead box or case is absolutely required if you don't want to be tracked. Get a tablet if you want a slightly lower level of botnet.

Nanonymous No.2119 [D] >>2120

>>2118
Well fuck me. But that's just location right? At least activities can be anonymized with the right apps, no?

Nanonymous No.2120 [D] >>2121

>>2119
depends on how many layers of tinfoil hat you want to wear
bottom line, don't do anything important that requires security or anonymity on a phone, ever.

Nanonymous No.2121 [D]

>>2120
I just want to make them work for it.

Nanonymous No.2137 [D] >>2191

Buy Librem 5 or Pine64 Phone when they come out. Physically remove anything related to the SIM card, GPS, camera and microphone. Only install trusted open source software.

Nanonymous No.2191 [D] >>2192 >>2198

>>2137
Librem 5 actually seems promising. The developers look pretty goyish.

Nanonymous No.2192 [D] >>2198 >>2206

The better question is why do you need to do anything worthy of security on a phone. If you're texting or calling information you don't want to be traced back to you then no matter what software you're running you're fucked. The only way to do that "securely" is to get burners without a paper trail. Other than that everything else you would need to do securely could easily be done on an ultra portable older memepad. Phones exist to make incredibly basic daily tasks slightly easier. They are just a multitool for clocks, calculators, and other innocuous tasks. If you could perhaps give me some actual use cases where you would legitimately need a libre phone it might be worth considering, but by that point you're going to need to sink $600+ into the Librem 5, which in all likelihood has hardware with back doors in it anyways like all of their laptops do.

>>2191
I don't really like the Purism guys. Everything they produce values normalfag aestheticism over being a good machine. You get to pay $1,500 for a laptop with no track point, a chiclet keyboard, and as far as I'm aware they don't even have the option of 3D printing any of their parts, which completely contradicts their entire purpose in my eyes. They claim to be working on getting rid of the IME and shit which is nice I suppose, but as it stands right now buying from them just seems like a way for normalfags with too much money to pretend like they are epic lincucks hackers. At least the eoma68 guys are making something that is legitimately revolutionary, but even their shit is way too expensive at the moment.

Nanonymous No.2197 [D]

>using smartphone
I've got your problem

Nanonymous No.2198 [D]

>>2191
>>2192
I think what Purism is doing is a great step forward from a hardware perspective, but they come off as propaganda marketing. Maybe that's just because of how shit their competitors are in comparison, but it still feels misleading.
At least they got dev kits out for the phone.
I would prefer a less normalfag phone but I see the value in doing so. I'm forced to be around normalfags, so the sooner they can get more secure, the better. I can dream, can't I?

Nanonymous No.2206 [D] >>2207

>>2192
>Librem laptops have backdoored hardware
Big claim.
>ME almost guaranteed neutered.
>no binary blobs from bootloader up (source: puri.sm/learn/blobs)
So all that is left appears to be:
(Source: coreboot Binary Situation page)
>Memory Reference Code
>VGA BIOS
>CPU Microcode
>Ethernet?
>open source hidden backdoors
I guess there could be backdoors in there.
I'd love to hear of a usable, better alternative that currently exists.

Nanonymous No.2207 [D] >>3298

>>2206
I believe last I heard they still had the IME problem, but I looked into after I made the post and discovered that apparently dealt with it which is nice. I'd still like to see all of the chasis parts 3D printable like the eoma68.
>I'd love to hear of a usable, better alternative that currently exists.
Memepad x60 or x200 will cost you 1/15th the price. To be honest I thought they were mostly shit because at the time there was no difference between them and other laptops as they still had the ME. There is definitely an argument to be had for a laptop with modern hardware that doesn't have backdoors. But I certainly can't see myself dropping $1500 on one when a memepad preforms just about every task I could imagine the average person needing for a fraction of the price. I'd much rather have my laptop made out of cheap renewable materials that I know I'll have access to no matter what than have to rely on purism manufacturing the parts to sell me.

Nanonymous No.2208 [D]

>muh IME
IME is irrelevant. (((System Management Mode))) is almost as much of a botnet and it exists on all CPUs newer than the 386, in addition to the 386SL specifically. To free yourself from cpu botnet you must use a 386 or a non-x86 system.

Nanonymous No.2209 [D] >>2356 >>3297

>>2113
>orfox
Shit
>signal
Piss

Just buy a cheap netbook lmao, despite intel me it's still better then anything with a gsm module

Nanonymous No.2344 [D]

just so you guys know that pine follows librem
archivecaslytosk.onion/2019.02.02-192614/https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=7093&pid=43850%23pid43850

Nanonymous No.2356 [D]

>>2209
did you know laptops without intel pozz exist?

Nanonymous No.3291 [D]

I find google bery inbasibe. Ibe diabled eberdhing fugging dhing assogiaded widh google. Bud ids diffiguld do abolish google from android. Obdions are nod lebel. I gan only disable google.

Nanonymous No.3297 [D]

>>2209
You know you can still buy netbooks with inteal atom for like 50 eurodollars, right?

Nanonymous No.3298 [D]

>>2207
>Memepad x60 or x200 will cost you 1/15th the price
>still had ME
flash an x200 with libreboot and this problem goes away. it's cheap to buy and costs next to nothing to maintain, while still being plenty fast for daily use with a non-bloat distro.

Nanonymous No.3299 [D]

>secure
>smartphone
choose one

Nanonymous No.3310 [D]

Necuro phone is actually OPs best bet.
if it had a cellular modem I would buy it

Nanonymous No.3313 [D][U][F] >>3588
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Most people only focus on the application processor in cellphones, which handles user interaction. The baseband processor should be of interest, that's the other processor in the phone that does the actual communications part.

Nanonymous No.3588 [D] >>3682

>>3313
If you have any doubts that glownigger phones were not designed to track you, take into consideration the high-frequency pinging that they do to the towers, this allows for constant triangulation (not even taking into consideration the additional GPS data it provides).

When you carry your glownigger on you, you're associating that node (in the cellular surveillance network) with your person. This is problematic if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time and may have witnessed something you should not have.

When something like 95% of people own a cellphone, that makes it rather easy and reliable to roundup people using historical data and a geo-boundary around a specific location. Many of the cellar-network companies even have special web services specifically designed for the government to access in order to do this (they look kind of like google maps).

Nanonymous No.3669 [D][U][F]
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Tracking device with phone capability is a closer definition for a smart phone.
An old 2g GSM phone pre e911 with a removable battery is about the best you can do. You can still be tracked though with triangulation and also (((Stingray'd))).

Nanonymous No.3674 [D]

Hopefully it still works. Many operators are shutting down their 2G networks in the next couple of years.

Nanonymous No.3679 [D]

Android is useless because of APK-only. Yes, you can execute ELF or pythonic code, but with some instruments.

Nanonymous No.3681 [D]

>>2912
not OP here. i don't drive, i carry a laptop around in my backpack 24/7. it would be much easier to carry a phone. i started work on a programming language intended to replace every aspect of the OS (terminal emulator, UNIX braindamage, etc, OS libs, kernel), and it can be used from the phone or GUI. instead of text it uses blocks and zoomable UI. yes there have been many failed attempts at making a 2D language through the decades, but i have a new approach that may or may not turn out to work. ive literally programmed arithmetic algorithms on my phone while riding a bicycle with one hand, standing in a bus, or sitting in a restaurant. that said the project is on halt for now as i have more urgent ones :'(

why the hell do you consider no trackpoint a dealbreaker? i never even used that on my thinkpad. it certainly seems like a good idea as a way to remove the touchpad, and allow resting the wrists in a more natural way because you dont have to worry about hitting the non-existent touchpad, but im not sure its better than the touchpad for actual efficiency (moving the cursor to a specific point across the screen). it sounds like a whole different type of RSI than you get from touchpad

Nanonymous No.3682 [D] >>3686

>>3588
yes so that shit should be turned off

Nanonymous No.3686 [D]

>>3682
I don't think you can, actually.

Nanonymous No.3688 [D]

>>2110
Copperhead OS is dead but the developer has started a new project of a secure fork of Android using hardened Kernel.
htps://github.com/GrapheneOS/

Nanonymous No.3758 [D]

>>2110
Best you can do is buy a librem5 or neo900.
Second best is installing CopperheadOS.
Third best is install lineageos (or some other stock-ish rom, especially if you compile it yourself) without google services and put it in airplane mode when not using the cellular conection to prevent triangulation.
If you can't do any of those, at least replace the stock keyboard with an open source one, use tor browser for everything you want to remain secret (this one is probably the most important thing you can do), disable or remove all google and crapware from the manufacturer, use open source apps or web pages for everything you can, disable or uninstall proprietary apps when not in use, again use airplane mode when possible, and install a firewall app to block whatever doesn't need to access the internet from doing it.
Disabling GPS is almost always useless because the google services will get your location anyways whenever it feels like it.
Look into sniffing packets to know what apps are sending your data to the cloud (seriously, most proprietary apps do it).
Needless to say none of that shit guarantees security, but you're reducing your risk by about 2/3rds IMO. For anything you actually want to keep secret don't use anything less than a PC running Tails.