>You can't. Cock.li doesn't parse your E-mail to provide you with targeted ads, nor do I read E-mail contents unless it's for a legal court order. However, it is 100% possible for me to read E-mail, and IMAP/SMTP doesn't provide user-side/client-side encryption, so you're just going to have to take my word for it. Any encryption implementation would still technically allow me to read E-mail, too. This was true for Lavabit as well -- while your E-mail was stored encrypted (only if you were a paid member, which most people forget), E-mail could still technically be intercepted while being received / sent (SMTP), or while being read by your mail client (IMAP). For privacy, I would recommend encrypting your E-mails using PGP using a mail client add-on like Enigmail.
Also, there's this quote from /g/:
Administering a mail host is sort of like being a nurse; there's a brief period at the start when the thought of seeing people's privates might be vaguely titillating in a theoretical sense, but that sort of thing doesn't last long when it's up against the daily reality of shit, piss, blood, and vomit.
Now that I think about it, administering a mail host is exactly like being a nurse, only people die slightly less often.
>>1512 Thanks for the news. Does Cock.li (still) have a warrant canary?
>Do you still trust cock.li nano/g/?
No. But they do accept Tor + Bitcoin, which is good.
>>1512 >Do you still trust cock.li
why would I trust it? i use it because i can sign up without too much captcha/phone fuckery like all the normalfag email services (gmail,yandex,yahoo, etc). why are you using email for something that needs "trust"????
>Do you still trust cock.li nano/g/?
How could you ever?
The guy is pretty open about it, everything is stored in plain text while the server is in his apartment.
Even if he didn't have bad intentions, he's just a dude. A single guy could break into his apartment and I'd bet he could get 20k+ easily just by stealing crypto traders.
Other than that, he could easily get infected somehow, and then it's all gone.
You should not use cock.li for anything serious or that would cause serious trouble if leaked.
All my cock.li accounts have nothing to do with them other than some throwaway shit, or shit that I wouldn't care if I lost, or went public.
You should do the same.
The bounty on invading this guy's apartment is huge, I'm surprised no one has done it yet.
>>2086 here.
Basically this >>1537.
Of course people are forced to have e-mails nowadays to get jobs etc, and I don't think there's a misconception itt that someone should be using cock.li for their personal e-mail, but there are 2 kinds of insecure:
1) Random leaks that make all your data public(or available to someone who stole it).
Everyone is prone to this, but I'd bet it's way more likely to happen to something like cock.li(read previous post) than something like protonmail.
2) Systematic analysis of your shit.
I'd bet cock.li is way safer than gmail in this aspect, but if you aren't doing anything to harm the jew or illegal, you should be fine.
While I'd never use the botnet that is gmail, I could trust a bittrex account on them, not if I don't want to be known by google, of course, but I can still trust legal things that I can't afford to lose on them.
And to be fair, the internet is a bad place for "trust". I'm selling drugs on Tor w a friend and while we play go as far as to play games together and use discord(yeah, same concept as before, they know all our shit, but if it's not illegal, doesn't hurt as much). The thing is, whenever we want to talk business, we arrange an IRL meetup, this way we can always be sure nothing is getting out. Better than relying on "trust".
>>2089 >everything was encrypted
What was the point anyway? It's not like they couldn't just sniff all traffic to/from the server for the same result. Was it scare-mongering tactics?
>>2090 >Was it scare-mongering tactics?
Probably, don't know. They could also change the firmware with that of the German government, since they had access to it.
Trust is a big word. I don't trust anyone online but sometimes its convenient for me to hand over my data to someone else when I'm busy doing other things than maintaining an email server. But like the drug dealer above, I prefer to talk about sensitive topics face to face rather than relying on "secure" communication protocols that can be compromised easily. It's not that GPG encryption is broken but rather all the programs that interact with it. CIAniggers won't be able to decrypt my emails in transit but they can easily infect my machine (or the senders machine) and sniff out the data the moment I decrypt my mails.
You can sign up without enabling niggerscript. It is one of the few email providers that allow this. If you aren't encrypting shit you don't want cia niggers to read that's on you. It takes all of 30 seconds to encrypt your shit. Normalfags for whatever reason are locked into the mindset of putting control over their privacy and their lives into the hands of corporations and the government. Stop it. The tools are there and ready for you to use already, there is no longer any excuses.
>>2222 Quads of truth.
>putting control over their privacy and their lives into the hands of corporations and the government
Normalfags are helpless creatures. They would probably believe advertising hype in the lack of real evidence of greater privacy or anonymity.
>2222
If we want a privacy revolution it's not enough to spread awareness, it also has to be convenient. The e-mail model is obsolete and needs to be replaced with something designed with privacy in mind
>>2225 >it also has to be convenient
That isn't enough either. The (((Silicon Valley companies))) won't embrace any such technology since they make their money through datamining their users. As always, the first step towards improvement of the general situation is to permanently remove jews from the world.
>>2225 How is email obsolete? It's the simplest way to easily send an encrypted message. If you can't be bothered with the inconvenience of an encrypted email then what you're messaging clearly isn't important enough for you to bother caring about it being hidden anyways. I don't care about the privacy of normalfags. If they want to continue sending all of their data through facebook and cell phones then act shocked when all of their secrets are exposed that's on them. It makes no difference to me. Normalfags are so retarded that they can't spend 3 seconds verifying a single thing. Half of the "alt-kikes" on these alternative websites unironically think that fucking duckduckjew is a super hacker search engine that respects their privacy. Using searx is just as simple and convenient, but marketing will ALWAYS win out in the end.
>>2228 >providing e-mail addresses locked to governments across the world since it requires surface web addresses
Really doesn't seem that secure to me, or reasonable to host an actually anonymous e-mail provider that is actually capable of respecting the users' privacy while not going down.
>>2227 Even if we manage exterminate the vermin, some other entity will fill the economical niche. What is needed is a structural change that makes it profitable to respect users rights. It will be extremely hard either way.
>>2228 You should care about privacy of normans. If you are the only one to use encryption, you are an anomaly and therefore draw attention to yourself.
>but marketing will ALWAYS win out in the end.
A big part of the population realized how cancerous ads are and begin to use adblockers. This makes datamining less profitable and incentivizes sane monetization models.
Cock.li down again, tried to check my mail but timed out. Can't ping the server either.
Here's what I got from https://status.cock.li although it's inaccurate; the website and webmail are actually down.
>>1512 I find it pretty funny that a joke website have seemingly the best privacy practices extant.
Can sign up and use with no payment, or cell number, through tor without javascript, without non-free software, recommends gpg instead of placebo server side encryption, etc.
That must be very embarrassing for everyone else. No wonder gmail blocks it.
I keep trying to sign up to various non-JS onion-only email providers, and their shit is basically broken. An online pal mentioned trying the same just recently, finally giving up in disgust over sites (some of which have been up 4+ years) that couldn't handle passwords longer than ~25 characters nor deal with "special" characters like '! ^ > : @'. (Makes you wonder how susceptible these sites are to injection attacks, and suggests the rest of their illustrious userbases are too computer illiterate to even notice.)
>>2905 I've no idea what kind of person Vince is, but his service is an oasis in a desert of very badly managed services. Long live cock.li tbh.
>>2905 The only sucky thing is if you are using Tor, you have to use the clearnet version of the site to make an email. You can't make them from the hidden service.
>>2911 http://mail.cockmailwwfvrtqj.onion (requires javashit)
Also I'm pretty sure you could use IMAP and SMTP clients to send emails over the hidden service as well, although I haven't tried it yet.
>>2912 Maybe I was not clear enough. When creating a new email account, you need to use the clearnet version. Of course you don't need it for just logging into the account / using the web email client
>I'm pretty sure you could use IMAP and SMTP clients
Yeah I use elfeed + isync just fine with my email from them.
>>2924 I just tried to do that and it seems that tor account registrations are rate-limited. You just need to keep trying until you succeed. Annoying I know but it's possible.
Anyway it's not a big deal to access the cucknet server just once over tor to make an account. Or you could do it on a public computer.
>>2925 >rate-limited
You'd think there would be more registrations over the clearnet address not less, but maybe I'm not considering how many shitters there really are on the Tor side.
>>2995 >I just tried to do that and it seems that tor account registrations are rate-limited
Maybe he fixed it then. Previously using the hidden service would just give you an error when you tried to register. It's not a huge deal, just a little annoying.
https://cock.li or http://cockmailwwfvrtqj.onion/ was down due to a raid by the glow in the dark people.
Do you still trust cock.li nano/g/?