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Nanonymous No.8863 [D][S][L][A][C] >>8866 >>8876 >>11117

Either slave away your entire fucking life or be so poor you might as well be dead.

Nanonymous No.8866 [D][U][F]
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>>8863
The robots are coming. Yang2020, nigga.

Nanonymous No.8868 [D]

Humans are robots. You're a robot. Next time you look in the mirror, tell yourself.

>I'm a robot

When you use this command your senses awaken. It's not a coincidence.

Nanonymous No.8869 [D]

>senses awaken
They don't. Is there something wrong with me?

Nanonymous No.8870 [D]

Try doing repetitive tasks. It will kick in.

Nanonymous No.8871 [D]

I have been doing repetitive tasks my entire life.

Nanonymous No.8876 [D] >>8878

>>8863
People say that working 8-10 hours a day is not slaving away because people in the past supposedly worked harder. Even if that is true things should be better for modern worker as technology has made everything much faster. In reality working at some Chinese factory is much worse than farming without modern equipment. Sure modern well paid work is easier on your body but it's also more time consuming and it deprives you of the most important thing called time. A farmer 200 years ago might not be rich but he at least had the time for his family and himself.

Nanonymous No.8878 [D] >>8888

>>8876
>People say that working 8-10 hours a day is not slaving away because people in the past supposedly worked harder.
Some people might have worked harder, but they didn't work longer. A Harvard professor by the name of Juliet Schorr added up all of the Catholic holidays, feast days, etc. as well as off-season times and found that modern Americans work more hours per year than medieval peasants did. And, while a medieval farmer might have done more physical labor than a modern farmer does, a modern plumber does a lot more physical labor than a medieval priest did.

Other researchers studying hunter-gatherer societies have found that people in those environments work, on average, 4 hours a day.

The reason that some people are able to drive Cadillacs, live in $350,000 houses, and eat filet mignon whenever they feel like it is because they are able to benefit from owning a share of other people's labor.

If you make the median salary in any modern economy, a large portion of the economic value you create goes to the government in the form of taxes and to your bosses (or the people who own the company that owns your bosses). You get the scraps.

Nanonymous No.8883 [D]

I agree with everything posted but the way the penniless immigrants do it is communities. Individualism is slavery.

Nanonymous No.8888 [D] >>8890

>>8878
>a large portion of the economic value you create goes to the government in the form of taxes and to your bosses
I don't really care about bosses or government, they take only a small fraction of "my" money. I'm more cocerned about money going for social support - all kinds of bums and lazy people. However that probably depends on country you work in...

Nanonymous No.8890 [D]

>>8888
More like depends if you are cuck and ignorant or not. guess what hard-working /pol/igger, you are the former

Nanonymous No.8891 [D] >>8929 >>8937

Daily reminder that taxation is theft, this is now an anarcho-capitalist thread

Nanonymous No.8929 [D]

>>8891
Owning (wage) slaves is theft.


Nanonymous No.8937 [D] >>8940 >>8967 >>9017 >>9040

>>8891
Daily reminder that property is theft, this is now an anarcho-syndicalist thread

Nanonymous No.8940 [D] >>8953

>>8937
Theft means depriving someone of their property. If property is theft than everything is theft.

Nanonymous No.8942 [D][U][F] >>8948
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Don't fix something that is not broken!
Everything is ok!

Nanonymous No.8948 [D]

>>8942
IMAGINE BEING AT COMPUTERS

Nanonymous No.8953 [D]

>>8940
So close, anon. So close. I'll pray for you.

Nanonymous No.8967 [D]

>>8937
you can't even be a theft without property, property is at the base of our society, eliminate property and i could kill you without repercussion since you wouldn't own your body, property is something that emerged from our sense of self you should treasure it

Nanonymous No.9017 [D] >>9021 >>9022 >>9040

>>8937
Private property is theft, personal property isn't.

Nanonymous No.9021 [D]

>>9017
That means that your ass is mine.

Nanonymous No.9022 [D]

>>9017
Surely all personal property is also private?

Nanonymous No.9023 [D]

Your asshole is personal, but it's not private anymore...it belongs to me.

Nanonymous No.9024 [D] >>9027 >>9028

No it belongs to you, but I can use it as well.

Nanonymous No.9026 [D]

>9023
My body, and thus my asshole, is not something which belongs to me, it is me. Therefore it cannot be defined as property of me. Furthermore, if it belongs to you then it is your property and not mine, it cannot both be my personal property and your private property simultaneously, unless I have lent it to you, which I haven't. In conclusion I find your argument unconvincing and request you leave my asshole alone, you filthy pervert.

Nanonymous No.9027 [D] >>9029

>>9024
That would be public property. If it belonged to me it would be up to me whether you used it or not, if I did not have the right to do this it would not be my property.

Nanonymous No.9028 [D]

>>9024
You can use mine, nanon!

Nanonymous No.9029 [D] >>9034

>>9027
Then we can all agree that your asshole is not private property but is now public property, although it is personal to you. Hence I may also use it in the public interest for my personal needs.

Nanonymous No.9030 [D]

This thread certainly took a turn for the brogriders.

Nanonymous No.9034 [D] >>9038

>>9029
My asshole being part of me cannot be defined as my personal property though it is personal to me, my initial point was that all personal property is also private property and you have yet to provide a satisfactory rebuttal to this statement. My asshole is no-ones property so long as I have the ability to defend myself.

Nanonymous No.9038 [D]

>>9034
What if you do not have that ability?

Nanonymous No.9039 [D] >>9040

>>3094
Personal property is the sort of private property that isn't theft.

Nanonymous No.9040 [D][U][F] >>9043
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>>8937
>>9017
>>9039
Theft implies i'm taking something away from somebody else without their consent, example: i buy a sandwich for a fair price from another person with their consent, it is now my private property, am i a thief? In my original post i implied that taxes are theft cause you are forced to pay them regardless of your consent(and if you don't their gonna force you), and their "price" is not fair(i don't have a word on it only they decide it) therefore they are indeed stealing from me. Personal property in economics is considered movable property as opposite to immovable property and doesn't have anything to do with private property, go study economics please.

Nanonymous No.9043 [D] >>9044

>>9040
I have to work regardless of my consent (if I don't I'll starve to death). Now is my employer a thief?

Nanonymous No.9044 [D][U][F] >>9047 >>11246
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>>9043
No, cause he's buying your work at a fair price with your consent, if you don't work and if you don't have passive income(smart people invest) you are probably gonna have a bad time, but nobody is hurting you it just happen that your body has needs and thats not your employer(which is a person like you) responsibility it is your responsibility. Remember that theft is an active action, does your employer come every month and take money or other resources from you without your consent? (no, your government does thou)

Nanonymous No.9047 [D] >>9049

>>9044
But what if he got his money forcefully in the first place? Or maybe it was his ancestors who did that. Is he still not a thief?

Nanonymous No.9049 [D] >>9052 >>9181

>>9047
>But what if he got his money forcefully
Who is he? Your employer? I don't undertand the question.
>Or maybe it was his ancestors who did that.
Are one of those cuckolds that want to give money to niggers only cause there was slavery once? I have no responsibility for the sins of my ancestors.

Nanonymous No.9052 [D] >>9054

>>9049
>Who is he? Your employer?
Yes.

Nanonymous No.9054 [D] >>9055

>>9052
I still don't get what you mean, what kind of employer takes money forcefully from you, usually employers pays you which is the opposite? Or you are talking about criminals? If he stole(i'm talking about actual stealing as in he took your stuff without your consent) money then yeah he is a thief by definition but i wonder also if you are an actual brainlet or you're trolling :D

Nanonymous No.9055 [D] >>9099 >>9181

>>9054
Not from me, from others.
Also, to put it further, I see that you agree that government steals. What about the enterprises employed by the government, i.e. not created and sustained by it, but the ones doing a fair work for it? What about them and their employees?

Nanonymous No.9099 [D] >>9162

>>9055
OMG are you lithuanian?

Nanonymous No.9162 [D]

>>9099
Nah, just Russian.

Nanonymous No.9181 [D]

>>9049
>Are one of those cuckolds that want to give money to niggers only cause there was slavery once?
No.
>I have no responsibility for the sins of my ancestors.
Yet you are entitled to the wealth they have acquired through committing the 'sins'. Seems a little bit unfair.

>>9055
To put it yet further: most big companies at least profit from the government somehow, many owe their existence to it. And the government steals not only from 'others', but from you in particular, too.
So you go and work for a guy who owes his ability to pay you to a thief. And then you also have to give a share of the money you receive all the way back to the thief. The thief takes money from you, the thief (indirectly) gives money to you. Almost as if you were a slave of some sort and that thief was your master.

Nanonymous No.9183 [D] >>9220

>Nazis bemoaning capitalism.
Oh the irony.

Nanonymous No.9220 [D]

>>9183
Why do you think it's nazis bemoaning capitalism in this thread?


Nanonymous No.11104 [D] >>11107 >>11109

>>8490
You can't be free with property. Property, and materialism in general, kills your spirit, soul and shell.
>muh property
I guess it's what deranged farmers think their ancestors thought haha.

Why don't people rebel? The robots and so are all over the news, fraud AI's too, "raising" living standard too, yet no one sees the end of the shift in which one gives away his own life for somebody else's crumbs.

the fact that labor is external to the worker, i.e., it does not belong to his intrinsic nature; that in his work, therefore, he does not affirm himself but denies himself, does not feel content but unhappy, does not develop freely his physical and mental energy but mortifies his body and
ruins his mind. The worker therefore only feels himself outside his work, and in his work feels outside himself. He feels at home when he is not working, and when he is working he does not feel at home. His labor is therefore not voluntary, but coerced; it is forced labor.


Nanonymous No.11106 [D] >>11108

>I have to work regardless of my consent (if I don't I'll starve to death)
Yes. If you won't hunt or gather, you will die of hunger or feed some wolves with your meat. Go tell Nature it's a thief yo. If you're not a hunter-gatherer, then you work for a living.

Nanonymous No.11107 [D] >>11108

>>11104
>The worker feels himself ... his work feels outside himself. He feels ... ... he does not feel at home. His labor is therefore not voluntary, but coerced; it is forced labor
>He feels, therefore X
Best. Ideology. Ever. Oh boy, time to genocide a couple dozen million Russkies and enslave the rest, then rain nuclear death on America, because feels.

Nanonymous No.11108 [D]

>>11106
>if you won't hunt or gather, you will die of hunger or feed some wolves with your meat
You mix bananas with apples.
>>11107
t. communist

Nanonymous No.11109 [D]

>>11104
>You can't be free with property
lol retard. you can't be free with breathing, so you should not breathe because I said so. Only death is true liberation faggot, go die now.

Nanonymous No.11117 [D]

>>8863
Slave away doing something of value then fagot. In the end some ungrateful, overlord parasite is going to bleed you dry. Find value in what you do; there really is nothing else.

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Working for yourself/your family/being an enterpreneur in the way to go, everything else is being a slave.

Nanonymous No.11246 [D][U][F] >>11256
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>>9044
>mug invest
>muh "smart"
How much do I need to invest to have +50K dollars stable income per year?

>consent
voluntaryism is literally euphemism for slavery

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>>11246
>How much do I need to invest
Depends how how much risk you're willing to accept