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how get /fit/ Nanonymous No.7576 [D][U][F][S][L][A][C] >>7597 >>7598
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The ways to strengthen arm, chest and leg muscles are really obvious, lifting weights/burpees/pushups. However, it's more difficult to find information regarding how to develop abs. Some people say that weight-loss is the only thing that's needed, others say that exercises along with that are necessary. Some people say that sit-ups work, others say that those are useless and that you should use other methods such as crunches and random leg-lifting exercises. Which ones are correct?

Nanonymous No.7581 [D]

Stop falling for /fit/ memes and unironically sit-ups and crunches

Nanonymous No.7597 [D]

>>7576
Any exercise that makes abdominal muscles sore will do. Some are more effective than others of course. This must be combined with getting down to acceptable bmi levels like 22 or so.

Nanonymous No.7598 [D][U][F] >>7621 >>7637 >>7652
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>>7576
Abs are made in the gym, but revealed in the kitchen, pudgester. You need to be at 7%-10% bodyfat to show your 6pak or 8pak.

None of this is relevant until you first develop your mind. Learn Latin from the attached book (follow the instructions at >>/g/1161.html#post2942 for stripping the first four bytes from the file and then rename it as a .djvu file, which is what it actually is) and read the writngs of Seneca for more information. Or learn Greek and read Marcus Aurelius (yes, he was a Roman emperor, but he wrote in Koine Greek, go figure). Then, if you're white, go forth and make many white children. It's civilization's only hope. If whites die out, what's left of humanity in 200 years will be a mud race banging rocks together in the shadows of crumbled overpasses and grunting in lieu of language. Save us, anon. Become a scholar-warrior and impregnate many white women. Unless you're not white. In which case, kys. Earth has enough mudpeople already. Ok thx. Praise Odin.

Nanonymous No.7621 [D] >>7630 >>7637

Planks, crunches, sit-ups. But abs are unnatural. If you look at men who do intensive physical labor, you'd see that few have abs.

>>7598
>read the writings of Seneca
Seneca Maior aut Seneca Minor?

Nanonymous No.7630 [D]

>>7621
Minor.

Nanonymous No.7637 [D] >>7642 >>7654 >>7782

>>7598
>Marcus Aurelius
>Seneca Minor
>stoics
Low-testosteron and slow schopenhauer-like "remedy" isn't what one should be searching, but I guess it should be part of search, so enjoy reading. Start with yourself and study res sacrosanctae extra commercium hominum. That's always good thing and I would actually say start with plays and before starting read Xenophons "Cyropaedia".
>none of this is relevant until you first develop your mind
How about developing both simultaneously? Consider he's fifteen.
>>7621
>men who do intensive physical labor
Because they usually have fat. I have 4% of body fat and they are like bricks. If you have lower than 8% you're good tho.

Nanonymous No.7642 [D] >>7649 >>7654

>>7637
>Consider he's fifteen.
I seriously doubt there are actual zoomers posting on this website. Just think about how it's possible for people to move from fucking tiktok and instakike to an obscure peruvian knitting forum on le deeb web.

Nanonymous No.7649 [D] >>7652

>>7642
Why wouldn't they? It has been shilled on /8/tech at the same time 4cucks migrants were taking over the board completely. I doubt some wouldn't root here.
Also >>>/b/6868

Nanonymous No.7652 [D][U][F] >>7657
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>>7649
> >>>/b/6868
That thread is actually pretty funny, considering it's on /b/. The reactions of boomers taking everything seriously is just like irl, it's very obvious.
>>7598
>revealed in the kitchen
I don't see that many women with abs tbh

Nanonymous No.7654 [D] >>7659 >>7750

>>7637
>Because they usually have fat.
Yes, you're supposed to have fat on your abdomen, silly.

>>7642
You're severely mistaken. This site is not obscure, nor a Peruvian knitting forum. Nobody but zoomers post here -- even the admin is a zoomer! The fact that you don't realize this goes to show that you yourself are a zoomer.

Nanonymous No.7657 [D]

>>7652
>pic
I thought that was fucking YODA when I saw it out of the corner of my eye.

Nanonymous No.7659 [D][U][F] >>7701
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>>7654
>supposed
Am I on 4cucks?

Nanonymous No.7701 [D] >>7702 >>7716

>>7659
I don't know what you mean, but yes, your naturally not supposed to have abs. If you lead a decent life, doing productive laborious tasks, healthily eating and exercising, you will never gain abs. Those who have abs are pathetic, hubris time-wasters, who deserve no esteem nor imitation.

Nanonymous No.7702 [D] >>7704

>>7701
Are you talking about normal abs or steroid induced abs?
Abs will not be visible if you have fat in your abdomen, but with a good life, they will show up.

People bodies tend to acumulate fat in defferent locations. My body stores the fat in my legs/ass instead of focalizing it in the abdomen.

If you have only, let's say 12% of body fat, but your body has almost all of them in your abdomen you are not going to see your abs. But with that body fat, someone like myself that has the fat located elsewhere, will have a perfect 6 pack if it's someone that has an active life.

I wouldn't worry too much anyway, our abs are not very usefull. It's somewhat easier to use our back and legs muscles instead.

Nanonymous No.7704 [D] >>7761

>>7702
I'm talking about any abs. It's normal to have fat on your abdomen. If you are accumulating fat at the thighs and buttocks, you do not use your legs enough. You are not in shape if fat is elsewhere not at the abdomen. The only use for abdominal muscles is bending forward to take it in the arse like the pretty-boy nancy you'd have to be to have abs.

Nanonymous No.7716 [D] >>7734

>>7701
I honestly think you are retarded.

Nanonymous No.7734 [D] >>7744 >>7753

>>7716
You are free to assert your authority on the subject. The abdominal muscles are seldom used, chiefly when bending forward. It is for this reason that abs hold great appeal to homosexual men. Fat at the abdomen serves as an insulator for the abdominal cavity, wherein many vital organs rest, the role of hair at healthily less fatty parts of the body.

Nanonymous No.7744 [D] >>7750 >>7755 >>7761

>>7734
Basically any exercise you do will use your abs. If you are lifting something while standing, your abs have to support all the weight you are lifting. If you are using a shovel, you will be bending and contorting your abdomen.

The exception of course are the majority of exercises in a gym, which are specifically designed to target a single muscle group. If I am bench pressing, then even at very high weights I won't feel very much in my abs, because all the weight is going into the bench. If I am running without any weight, then my body is mostly staying in place. As soon as I add weight, as you would have if you were on a cross country excursion, then your abs are engaged to carry the weight.

Bending over to take it in the ass doesn't require very much strength, least of all because you will be leaning against something. Besides, men who take it in the ass are not seen as very manly even among gay people. Men who fuck others require abdomen strength, because they need to do all that thrusting. These are also the more traditionally manly men, so visible strength benefits them a lot more.

Nanonymous No.7750 [D]

>>7744
100% this.
Emphasis on the third paragraph for >>7654 , 7701
Cope moar

Nanonymous No.7753 [D] >>7755 >>7761

>>7734
>hold great appeal to homosexual men
They also hold great appeal to women. Women drool over pictures of abs.
I don't know nor care what faggots think of me, I don't associate with them.

Nanonymous No.7755 [D] >>7757 >>7758 >>7761

>>7744
I can't believe you didn't even perform these actions before making this post. When lifting, you are using the leg, (lower-)back and upper-body muscles, not the abdominal. Likewise when shoveling, pivoting at the hips. You are arguing with a former laborer, BTW.
Those who use gyms, do so for their own vanity, and are, as I said, narcissistic, pathetic, hubris time-wasters, not the object of admiration.
On the topic of homosexuals, I am not well knowledgeable, but thrusting concerns not the abdominal muscles, but the leg.

>>7753
Abs do not appeal to women. If you have ever spoken to a woman on the subject of male physical appearance, many will tell you the do not like the 'supermodel look'. But even if they do drool over pictures of them, in the public you generally wear upper garments, concealing your musculature.
When appealing to women, your posture, comport and dress matter much more then your physique, given you are not overweight. Keep your figure lean, your appearance kempt and lay utmost importance on your attire.

Nanonymous No.7757 [D] >>7759

>>7755
Swinging an axe or a pick requires abdominal muscle power.

Nanonymous No.7758 [D] >>7759

>>7755
The upper body is connected to the lower through the abdominal. Every exercise done using the upper body requires the abs. When you are moving from your legs the work done by the abs tends to be isometric rather than concentric, but it is still work, and it still tones the abs.
>but thrusting concerns not the abdominal muscles, but the leg.
I can't believe you didn't perform this action before making this post. Pelvic thrusts definitely engage the abs. Reason being that you are throwing your pelvis forward, and therefore your upper body backwards (third law).
>Abs do not appeal to women.
Look at the pictures women look at and share. They very regularly show off impressive abs. Any picture of a topless man will have abs.

Nanonymous No.7759 [D] >>7760 >>7761

>>7757
No, it doesn't. It uses the muscles of upper body (when I say upper body, that includes the arms).

>>7758
The upper body is also connected to the lower by the back muscles. And not every exercise using the upper body requires the abdominal or even the back muscles -- masturbating, for example. Pelvic thrusts engage only the legs. If you don't believe me, try performing any of these actions while tensing your brick-like abs, the actions become uncomfortable and unnatural.
What images women look at and share, I don't know. But any women for who abs are the deciding factor in a mating partner is a women not worthy of being a mating partner.

At any rate, gaining abs is difficult and time consuming, and IMO, not worth it. As somebody who has done extensive and heavy labor, it is my experience that they do not come naturally.

Nanonymous No.7760 [D] >>7761

>>7759
When I swing an axe I use my whole body, not my arms only. Maybe that's bad form or whatever but it doesn't hurt my back and it's more effective. It also uses the abdominal muscles, since the body is swinging forwards. The back muscles are only used when lifting the axe back up.

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>>7704
>supposed
There are body types. One can look fit with ~8% bodyfat while other can't with ~8% bodyfat.
>>7744
Yep.
>>7755
>those who use gyms
I think it's way harder to draw abs in gym than it's with bodyweight exercises/calisthenics/yoga and you don't even have to think about abs whilst performing.
>>7753
>upper garments, concealing your musculature
That's bullshit. One can easily tell what body you have from posture and if you have broad shoulders or are standing in throng, it's even easier. Also don't forget that younger woman can and will touch your stomach at some point. It's probably not decisive, but they certainly will be attracted more than they would be if you were concealing tummy.
>>7759
>extensive and heavy labor
This actually helped me a lot. I worked some time at constructions and as lumberjack and I drawed them there significantly. Maybe your problem is diet.
>>7760
>bad form
No. It's efficient that way.

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>>7637

Nanonymous No.7825 [D][U][F] >>7827
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I've heard itt that thrusting of the sort done during sex doesn't require the use of the abdominal muscles. Well today I was fucking my 10/10 virgin qt waifu daki for research purposes and what I discovered is that sticking your dick into something requires the back muscles, while pulling your dick out (against gravity, in some positions) uses the abs. So the retard claiming that abs are for fags is incorrect.

Nanonymous No.7827 [D]

>>7825
Many /pol/tards are latent homosexuals. Get used to it.

Nanonymous No.7881 [D]

Speaking of /fit/ness, does isometric exercise on arms and legs work? For example, is just flexing muscles really hard for a long time enough to make them stronger? Is "sitting on the invisible chair" kind of action actually beneficial?