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Nanonymous No.947 [D][S][L][A][C] >>954 >>964

I think I know why people (and I) got hooked on anime. I'll skip things like self-inserting, loser mc etc. because that's iceberg.

I realized I've been fetishising japland for few months despite watching anime few years. These chink characters, catchy music, the fact that non-western country is developed make is exotic.


But then I looked at One Outs - very cool anime, imo one of the best and it wasn't that exotic. Key? It didn't have female characters and fanservice.

I got to the point 95% anime is pretty much softcore porn. Most of us is watching this shit for girls, doesn't matter if they fuck or even wear swimsuit (it's pretty much a rule in cgdcf) - it's that we get aroused, similar to porn, think moe.

What I'm trying to say? If not sexual themes, anime wouldn't be as successful as it is. Are series like Kaiji or One Outs cool? Yes, but they're extremely rare to be considered medium, think of Hong Kong movies - they're also cool, but we watch them form time to time, not like anime that has fuckton of series in one season.

I'm still hooked on jpop (have you ever noticed all of this are girls? isn't there place for male bands?) but I want to stop giving fuck about this country. It made me feel like it's best in the world and no one else makes good stuff. Actually their movies are shit, but I'm talking about series/music.

What to you think? I'm literally cucked. Internet is full of shit like when japs had advanced phones before rest. I tend to explain that it was useless shit no one cared except teenagers, but it hits me whites didn't think of but fucking chinks. japland is copy of western countries, but it's still not enough. Maybe it's all lie no one told me? Basically deweeb me.

Nanonymous No.948 [D]

Japan ended with Akuatagawa.

Nanonymous No.949 [D] >>950

Why you get addicted to Jap culture isn't really what's important. What's important is understanding why consuming Jap culture is degenerate and makes you a culture leech.

Nanonymous No.950 [D] >>951 >>1026

>>949
>and makes you a culture leech
OP, along with every japanese consumer of said content. tbh I think viewers are often more cucked by their own country's content more than the products of Japan, which aren't even intended for gaijin in the first place.

Nanonymous No.951 [D] >>952 >>957 >>1049

>>950
I'm not talking about whether or not Jap shit is inherently degenerate. The act of routinely consuming any other cultures media to the point of hobbyism is degenerate, especially in the case where people do it to avoid the fact that their own countries media is pozzed beyond repair. It enables the worst form of escapism imaginable, and that's not even to mention the fact that watching cartoon porn of another race most certainly induces a desire to race mix or abandon your own people in some way.

Nanonymous No.952 [D] >>953 >>1049

>>951
Doesn't seem so black and white to me.
What about when the anime has strongly western themes?

Nanonymous No.953 [D] >>957 >>1026

>>952
It's not black and white. There's a difference between occasionally watching anime and being someone who avatarfags on forums with weeb girl pictures and routinely discusses anime online. Anime is like a lot of degenerate things you can do. As long as you understand where the line is and you aren't encouraging or enabling others to do it as well, it's fine behind closed doors. The problem with anime is that it can be quite decent and entertaining, which leads to losers getting sucked into it as a hobby and fascination. If your society is fucked you don't deserve to endlessly consume good media and ignore all of the problems your people suffer. These things only serve to delay the day of the rope.

Nanonymous No.954 [D][U][F] >>957 >>1023 >>1034
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>>947
Rather than being about sexual partners, I think anime fulfills men's latent desire for a daughter. All western media is trying to appeal to his desire for a wife, or a job, or a gun. The japanese stuff appeals to every man's desire for a daughter.

I don't watch much anime, but I watched Serial Experiments Lain after everyone memed it. Lain is not at all sexually desirable. The time she puts on lipstick she looks like a caricature. The date with Taro was a joke. But the relationship with her father is clearly supposed to be idealized. The father gives her the tools to explore the wire, when the rest of the family abandons her he stays to reassure her, and at the end he explains what happened to her. Lain is the main character, but I don't think we as viewers are supposed to see ourselves as Lain. We are supposed to look down on Lain from above, gently assuring her that everything will turn out ok, like the father does.

I saved pic related after one of you fags posted it a few months ago. I play it to get a warm fuzzy feeling. I don't want to fuck Ao (I looked up the name, you see) in this gif. I want to pat her head and make her feel better.

I can see men getting confused when they see these animes, they think that the attraction they have towards these girls is a sexual one, that they should want to fuck them, and this is how they become pedos and so on. But the desire starts with a desire to have someone to take care of and protect, like you do a daughter.

Nanonymous No.957 [D] >>965

OP
>>951
I like western media, it's just that japs offer something different, appealing for social outcasts, which is lacking elsewhere. I like western movies, but not much tv series. Jap music is addicting and hard to replace (kpop resembles western pop, so no).
>products of Japan, which aren't even intended for gaijin in the first place.
Did you know it wasn't until '80 they started to put their stuff? Before they were making it for Westerners as it was cheap and "watchable", similar to how China today produces shit.
>>951
It was hobby, until it was too late. I felt anime helped me with anxiety, while in reality making it worse.
>or abandon your own people in some way.
This line made me really sad.
>>953
I think it was like you describe - small hobby. But it grew and now I see world as a entertainment, that is very few countries exist like US, japland, Korea and maybe others. I rate country based on what they can deliver me in terms of media. No, France or other don't appeal to me as it isn't what I want.
>If your society is fucked you don't deserve to endlessly consume good media and ignore all of the problems your people suffer.
So what can I do? Are you implying japs are superior in terms of media?
>>954
Lain is exception, this series isn't about anything sexual.
>If your society is fucked you don't deserve to endlessly consume good media and ignore all of the problems your people suffer.
Honestly I've never thought about it that way. Problem with cute stuff is that we lose touch with reality and trump real encounter over 2d. I remember one day I said "damn, I want to watch some cute stuff" after which I got better. It's something western isn't doing.

One more thing: once I watched domestic stuff, and my country doesn't make much good things. This show was so fucking good I was proud of my people. I forgot about rest of the world like it was unimportant.

Also, I mean whole time movies because western and Russians do great job, but movie end in 2 hours. Shows are longer episodic, and sadly I'm not really fond of this, and without good sites it can be quite hard to get.


Nanonymous No.964 [D]

>>947
I watch anime for epic battles and manliness. How is fullmetal alchemist or made in abyss sexual unless you are some kind of deviant.

Nanonymous No.965 [D]

>>957
Just have unprotected sex with your wife when you feel sad or lonely instead.

Nanonymous No.966 [D]

>How is made in abyss sexual?
The loli/shota bondage comes to mind.

Nanonymous No.967 [D] >>968

What I like about anime is that you can stray away from "real world" scenarios (which is basically just drama), to alternate worlds that are much more interesting. Where live action fails, anime prevails.

Nanonymous No.968 [D]

>>967
Live action can do alternate worlds. You may just be seeing bad examples of live action. I think the difference isn't an alternative world in itself, but that anime focuses on the escapism aspect more so than others.

Nanonymous No.1019 [D] >>1020

Have you ever thought why West doesn't do as autistic stuff as included in anime, manga, video games? Do japs have monopoly on "weird, specific" things?

Nanonymous No.1020 [D] >>1021 >>1022

>>1019
Weird jap shit is considered weird in japan as well. The difference is that it's cheaper to do animation in japan then it is the west, so they can afford to fulfill much more niche interests.

Nanonymous No.1021 [D]

>>1020
It never crossed my mind.
Not even once.
And considering anime is advertisement to make people buy mangas and visual novels http://archivecaslytosk.onion/htVCG it does make sense.
I think it's different from jap perspective - we're Western (or European in general) and we "fetishise" jap shit, put it on the pedestal.

Nanonymous No.1022 [D]

>>1020
>cheaper to do animation in japan then it is the west
In case you don't know, most of it is outsourced both in japan and west.

Nanonymous No.1023 [D] >>1034

>>954
>Rather than being about sexual partners, I think anime fulfills men's latent desire for a daughter
Unironically this.
I'm sure I said it somewhere before on Nano, but a lot of societal problems come from the breakdown of the nuclear family. Humans were made to have offspring. Stopping this is breaking the world.

Nanonymous No.1024 [D][U][F]
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It's just a form of escapism for me. I always thought that "seeking help" would simply be getting addicted to legal drugs and becoming an emotionless blob of human flesh, so I got hooked on things that could be more manageable - anime, imageboards, programming etc. instead.

I think I would have killed myself long ago if it wasn't for the daily dopamine fix I get from the internet.

Nanonymous No.1026 [D][U][F] >>1033
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Just because you somewhat enjoy anime doesn't mean you should love Japan, duh. Not country is ideal at delivering quality life and quality content at the same time. In Japan, you either work yourself to death or spend entire life in room as a shut-in indulging in unhealthy amount of escapism. Don't take my words for it, check statistics for yourself. My point is that you're not cuck for having soft spot for anime as long as you don't spend real currency on weebshit and behave like >>953 described. Think of it as chink shit that is watchable/listenable and no I don't encourage you to do it. But remember you can be normal human being even when liking anime and jpop (hentai is degenerate though, even more than Western porn).

>>950
>products of Japan, which aren't even intended for gaijin in the first place.
Anime is export product and has been for some time, don't spread disinformation. If you look at video games, excluding Japan only ones (there is a reason why they're not released elsewhere) US and Europe are bigger markets than Japan. You believed in "Japan is self-sufficient" meme, when in reality country is based on exporting. Japan would have a hard time surviving without West, take this redpill. All Asian nations benefited from exporting. No country can isolate itself from the world, not Japan, not even North Korea that depends on China for exporting natural resources.

Idealization of Japan is behind my mind. Weebs make it look like heaven in the world, country that is perfect and better in everything than West. They make it look like utopia where people don't steal, curse, kill, rape and where everyone is rich, happy, has access to quality stuff and holy fuck how white man is behind. Every nation has dirty secrets and Japan is no different.

Nanonymous No.1033 [D][U][F]
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Same here.
Potential Difference for me is that the issue is like an ouroboros; the small, instant dopamine fixes (media consumption, image board browsing, science article reading, etc.) distract from the tasks that would result in a larger, non-instant dopamine fix (actualizing my education, building muscle, etc.)

I am the beast I worship lol

>>1026
I agree with all of this.

A similar red pill to the one you gave is that anime's typical superiority to western cartoons can be allotted to Japan's relatively low amount of kikes.

Nanonymous No.1034 [D][U][F] >>1044
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>>954
>Rather than being about sexual partners, I think anime fulfills men's latent desire for a daughter
This isn't said enough. The fact that that I can't find this sentiment anywhere but here despite >>1023 thinking it might have been said before really settles that nanochan is my home.
This board is scarily superior to the rest.

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>>1034
It doesn't apply to everybody as procreation problems seems exclusive to manbabies (/a/ doesn't usually have that much of these compared to eg /pol/, probably being the reason why you haven't heard of it before) and to inhabitants of isolationistic and fascist hyper-capitalistic japan, one of the kind panopticon. The daughter-thing is key propaganda element as japs have little to no time and energy for procreation and japan being gentrified as fuck. Anime also doesn't suggest any societal/economical changes which are necessary if japs want to procreate not meaninglessly making it pro-state brainwashing and the whole feminization aspect of anime speaks in my favor.
By any chance, did they change this latent-daughter-desire aspect when they recently started exporting it big time?

Nanonymous No.1049 [D]

>>951
>>952
>and that's not even to mention the fact that watching cartoon porn of another race most certainly induces a desire to race mix or abandon your own people in some way.
Isn't anime basically that? They all have pink skin and large open eyes, varied hair colors. Japanese are bored of themselves.

>never watched a show for sexual or romantic purposes
If I wanted porn, I'd look at porn. Sexualized advertising and fan service are stupid and I hate everyone who allows it to work.