Seeing these old guard Janitors / Mods discussing what they had going on in their boards... It's like looking into a parallel world. Different, yet not unlike our own.
Better mobile queue interfaceAnonymous ## Janitor01/21/22(Fri)23:48:31No.8361[Reply]
This is a minor issue I've noticed with phone jannying but because the mobile report queue is based on the desktop version if you're left handed or happen to be using your non-dominant hand you're a lot more likely to accidentally delete posts, files or clear things because you have less space to safely scroll with. If anyone feels like it a more mobile friendly design for the queue would be appreciated. On a separate but related note on our regular website: the upper bottom link doesn't work, the bottom catalog link is unclickable and the bottom top and post a reply links overlap each other. It has been this way for a while and I don't have anything that could possibly be breaking the website such as extensions.
>mobile report queue is based on the desktop version if you're left handed or happen to be using your non-dominant hand you're a lot more likely to accidentally delete posts, files or clear things because you have less space to safely scroll with Here is a hacky solution for this:
1- Open settings 2- Scroll down to custom CSS 3- Put dis in:
.report { text-align: right; }
4- Click save 5- ???
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Henlo On /vm/ there are ~20 'general' threads on the board right now, having either 'general' in the name, a /xyzg/ identifier, 'dummy text' edition, or links to prior threads. The board rule three is: >"Generals"—long-term, recurring threads about a specific game—should be posted in /vg/. This is not to say threads about specific games cannot be created on /vm/, just that long-term, recurring threads belong in /vg/. However, reports on /vm/ are rare, and I've not seen any for a general where the report seems to be complaining that it exists, as much as one can interpret the reasoning behind a report. Additionally, as a janny and regular of /vg/ as well, I'm fairly certain the /vm/ generals would not survive on /vg/ due to post frequency issues (/vg/ is much faster, /vm/ generals would die without a lot of bump posting). I don't really want to just delete/WR a bunch of threads despite them being clearly rulebreaking, since anons seem to enjoy being able to have a general for the more niche games and others don't seem to complain, at least via a method I can see. Can this rule be discussed more? If generals were so prevalent or fast that they choked out non-general content I could see it being an issue, but as is that doesn't seem to be the case. I also see an argument in leaving the rule as is and not enforcing it unless a problem arises, but it is misleading that way. I should also mention I know this exists with at least a starcraft thread on /vst/, and some popular games have eternal general-esque threads on /vrpg/ but not to the same extent at all. Just looking for any others' thoughts.
>>8327 The generals rule is an handover from /v/ since all the new /v/ off-shoots share its board-specific rules. Strictly speaking a general is anything called "general" in the OP text or subject or anything referring to "editions", anything containing links to pastebins or too many links to wikis or guides or event related things within the context of it being a recurring thread and not some thread made deliberately to discuss some event or other. Backlinking to the previous thread is fine (you'd think it wouldn't be) and so is having a link or two in there as long as it isn't a pastebin. People will also often post all the links and dumps in the thread instead of the OP which also breaks the rule. I don't think that anyone thinks that the rule is useful on these boards since people just make one after the other threads anyway without the general formatting so they don't get moderated; all it does is occasionally shit on dozens to hundreds of posters in a given thread and make them re-do the thread without the forbidden text. Mod wise the responses to generals are wide ranging, I've had someone lock a thread because it was a general which makes an example out of the practice whilst some other times I've had mods shrug because the general happened to have 200 or so posts so I should instead wait for weeks/months for it to die before enforcing the rule. Nonetheless it's still a rule so you should enforce it, most of the threads on most boards don't break the rule despite being one after the other threads too (not even 4chan mods are draconian enough to be super strict about it) so you likely won't have to do anything for months if you properly stamp out the actual generals from the given board.
/co/ issues and sillinessAnonymous ## Janitor01/07/19(Mon)15:43:52No.6892[Reply]
I know I'm in good contact with you fellas, my /co/ janitor friends, but felt the need to put this here because this is a rather elusive issue. There is an individual who will seize any opportunity to interject Nature Cat. Sometimes seamlessly and in an on-topic seeming manner, but mostly awkwardly and tenuously. That is the principle characterisation of this individual. I can also (weakly) characterise this individual by the specific set of images they pick. https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/kxA8Z1NKQpU08XhuOw5YMg/ https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/iJX2d5VVB38YFpMVyFbQRg/ https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/vhC-rXQ9154_QcuXnE1-kA/ https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/1As6E8gkeb_IKV_kbgQBiA/ https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/kYK7oBnFknOBd8M3I4g-6A/ As it stands currently, this is a developing issue. This stuff isn't really being reported at the moment because I suppose it's quite recent or stealthy, so as a consequence I haven't been able frequently request bans on this individual in order to profile them as an 'evader' (and simply put note them in the evaders thread >>1697) or the like. Regardless of that, wishing to speak as an anon and not just a janitor, I've been finding this behaviour mainly in threads I browse. Found it a little funny at first, but then it just became annoying. Do not wish for a death of a thousand cuts on an otherwise great board.
So be wary of naturecatfag. Thank you.
I'm going to follow up this up and address grammarfag eventually.
Feature Requests: Move Request Automation and Warn For Non-EnglishAnonymous ## Janitor09/04/21(Sat)15:09:10No.8081[Reply]
On two separate issues, I feel like bothering the moderation team on IRC/Discord is far more trouble than the problem itself; and as a result deletion of the post/thread is the easier answer. Obviously that is not acceptable, and as such I would very much suggest that both the Moving of Threads and the Warn for Non-English be less reliant on @ing Mods directly.
For Moving Threads, it should be a "send move request" type automation where either it gets placed in a global mod queue for thread moves, or an IRC based system where it automatically @'s Mods. Obviously this would also contain the information for a suggested board to move it to as well. So to give an example, there's a /bant/ tier religion debate thread on /pol/; I simply click a little "M" button on the post and that brings me to a popup menu that asks where I want the thread sent to. For some boards, this might be a small list (so you can't send ANY thread to ANY board, just some boards). For /pol/ that list might be restricted to "/bant/, /his/, /x/, or /trash/".
For Warn for Non-English, this is a bit of a /pol/ specific request. It is a semi-frequent occurrence on /pol/ that users of a thread need to be publicly warned by a Mod for lapsing into German or other such languages; and I take issue with that approach for two reasons. One, it feels like a Mod is coming down from on high to say "STOP HAVING FUN"; and two, it doesn't feel rules based. Oh such, it is against the board's rules to post in Non-English, but which rule? The answer is "none of the numbered ones", it is just an unlisted rule. And while that in itself might not need to change it to feel like just a regular moment of individuals being warned for breaking rules rather than an extraordinary event that the whole thread is going to reply to.
I don't think either of these will expand Janitorial powers in a negative way, as the first is just making it easier to get moderator attention, while the second is merely adding a new warn request.
55 songs selected haphazardly and arranged in no significant manner. The selection process: opaque, ad-hoc and delayed for months. Truly, a soundtrack as eclectic as the janitor team itself.
>"I found it quite fitting when cleaning the boards. Rather, it just flows nicely." --W
>"i dont know what this is but whoever put it in the playlist, i love you" --B
>"I'm gonna end up organizing a playlist, aren't I..." --A
>"True to the album's slippery not-quite-an-album/not-quite-a-score form, the contributions can work as the big showcase moments, or just as part of the flow [...]" -- Pitchfork, 9/10
Can we have a /v/ thread going? Current state, spammers, console wars... and their solutions.
Please take note that I have not been a janitor of /v/ for long so take my words with a grain of salt.
During my shift, this is the current events on /v/:
- The Tomodachi life incident: those threads quickly derailed into SJW/gays hate threads and they never talk about the game itself. My opinion is they're not /v/ materials.
- The vidya draw threads are constantly fighting between the waifu/fur/serious vidya. Every time a draw thread is up, my report page is filled with reports of requests they don't like. They even split into 2 threads recently, which seems to be impractical to me. I have been leaving them to settle among themselves but things. just got worse.
- Off-topic: >What game where I can dual wield like a fookin legend: this is a thinly veiled Game of Thrones thread and they have been spammed constantly in the last few days. Please delete or BR them.
It's been brought up in the discord before, but it would be helpful if we could have /v/4 as a WR'able template. There are times when there's some news that comes out and anons spam the catalog with low effort threads about it. I think the text an anon gets if we submit a QR for reposting is "No spamming/flooding" which doesn't come off the same as "check the catalog before you post".
Songs of Janiteam 2020Anonymous ## Janitor10/18/20(Sun)21:19:07No.7520[Reply]
66 songs selected for free by our fellow janitors and moderators. These include many genres since the theme was songs that we liked.
Be sure to check out the cover art which was made by some of our janitors just for this new album! A full rez version is included in the Extras folder.
>>8051 >kek how? i use musicbee set up to autoscrobble anything i have whenever i play anything on there. normally when im listening to music i dont want to scrobble i use default windows groove music but i had already added it to my musicbee library by the time i realized my mistake...
Due to the projects initial overly ambitious scope we'll now also be accepting song submissions like last year in order to complement the album. 2021's theme is: "Songs you listen to while jannying." Please DM me your song submissions (YouTube links and files of any kind are fine) or ping me on Janiteam for larger files (or use cloud services). To assure 100% album inclusion this time around do not assume I saved your song unless I told you so. Discord is not great for this but it's okay enough to not justify other delivery methods. The deadline for song submissions is 2 weeks from now. The album will be released at the latest mid October.
User self-post deletion should be disabled in /qa/, and after that somebody should check on the board from time to time and ban all the open proxies that are being used by bots to make upwards of 500 self-deleting posts per day.
There was a time when /qa/ was a deliberately ignored trash heap forgotten by everyone, and therefore it didn't actually matter that /qa/ had transformed into a bot-moderated chatroom for users banned one thousand times over, but now that there's a global announcement redirecting everyone to /qa/ to discuss 4chan it would be nice if the first thing they saw on arrival wasn't a bot-managed junkyard.
>>7870 I think the point of /qa/ was to make a ws random board that wasn't /vip/ :^) Naturally it wouldn't make much sense to enforce that all discussion should be meta since who'd want to janny hundreds of "meta for this feel?" type posts of people trying to skirt the rules.
>>7880 >handling meta threads in general Either ask them to be moved to /qa/ or delete/WR/BR them.
>>7883 Meta threads shouldn't be moved to /qa/ though because they have legitimate discussion about the state of a board. Why are these threads being moved to /qa/ when it's a known, literal shitheap where it will be spammed and ignored? All it does when they are moved/deleted is make it look like the moderation doesn't care about the site or it's users. I know people can fill out feedback forms or go to the IRC but those both feel like awful options too. The feedback forms have no indication that they are actually read or addressed while the IRC requires anons to go offsite just to get a response. It just makes it seem like the moderation is purposefully trying to push away discussion about the site to places other than on the website itself.
>>7941 >they have legitimate discussion about the state of a board Which is off-topic on the board itself and can be had on /qa/. I've never seen a meta thread get shat on after being moved either so I don't think /qa/ is a place where it's impossible to discuss meta. If you actually do think about it, it makes sense that things are the way they are to some degree. It doesn't make sense to build a web chat client into 4chan for the sake of solving bans and meta stuff, it doesn't make sense to tell everyone that their suggestions from the feedback form were read nor does it make sense to try super hard to get anon-kun to notice that mod-sama-senpai still cares about him. Which isn't to say that there are things that could be done that aren't done.
A guy started a thread on /lit/ earlier this morning saying that we could improve board quality by posting a collection of commonly used and/or popular charts within the sticky. >>>/lit/18407396 He says that this would cut down on the amount of threads of people asking for beginner books or books on topics which have been discussed a thousand times before. I agree with him, I think it's a good idea. At the moment, the board is overflowing with recc threads which more or less follow the same exact discussion every single day. Recc threads would probably still get posted if there were charts in the sticky, but at least not as many, and then there would be more of an excuse to prune the ones that do get posted. This would also slow down the board hopefully thereby improving quality. Below I figured I'd post a handful of charts which I think would be most appropriate.
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