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Are there any particular issues preventing a whitelist of the VP9 video codec and the OPUS audio codec for WEBM, alongside the existing VP8 and Vorbis?
It currently has support in all major operating systems and browsers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VP9#Operating_system_support

Seems like a good way to bump the quality of webm uploads without increasing the filesize limit.
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>>8360
>>8566
iphone user here
There's literally a VLC app you can use to watch webm's. It is a complete non-issue. More of an annoyance.
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>tfw can't share sound webms on the board dedicated to sounds
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>>8373
Thank you dev-sama <3
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So yeah, VP9+OPUS has been added.
Okie Dokie then.
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>>8572
Luv me copystrikes.

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Recently it has formally come out that a certain individual has created a spambot AI trained on 3 years worth of 4chan posts, and can create convincing shitposts that can de facto shut down all discussion on a board by drowning it in noise. This chatbot was directed primarily at /pol/ - a board which I personally janny - for the purpose of disrupting legal political discussion that the makers of the chatbot disagreed with. I do not want to get completely conspiratorial, but I've seen various other bits of evidence here and there (mostly social engineers bragging) that there is quite a bit of money put behind shutting down /pol/ through this and similar chatbots in order to accomplish goals such as ensuring certain people lose certain future elections. (this isn't to say /pol/ helped anyone win anything, what matters is certain groups think /pol/ matters and is thus worth spamming)

I can fully understand that /pol/ is not going to be the most popular board among non-/pol/ jannies. There are many reasons why you are perfectly within your rights to say "who cares what happens to /pol/?" But in my opinion this is the first salvo in a broader attack on 4chan, as the weapons used to disrupt /pol/ will be freely available and could easily be turned against other boards who may have similar grudges against them - such as /mlp/ or /lgbt/. Something needs to be done to counter these chatbots in general, as it seems that the individual behind this used a 4chan pass and the posts were mostly innocuous shitposting. The bots could easily be trained to not violate the rules (i.e. no 'saged' or profanities) and be further difficult to ban. According to the man himself, he was able to flood /pol/ to such a degree that 10% of all posts were the chatbot's. Simply imagine this happening on any other board and you understand my concern.

I do not think this should be ignored or dismissed AT ALL. It will be an invisible tumor going forward. This is 'Dead Internet Theory' realized.
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the OP is right desu, if anything you guys are underselling how bad this is. the good thing is that he wasn't able to do it without a pass, so it would be easy to stop, but if (a) the AI gets better and (b) they split the posting up across multiple passes it becomes a bigger problem.

anyway I hate AI shit at this point. just unplug it all, it's not going to do any good for humanity.
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The only thing that is really novel about this is the shitposts can be generated on the fly, rather than having some database of bait replies to derail a thread. Getting around the captcha is nothing new. Using a multitude of proxies to evade detection and bans is nothing new. The only advantage the generative posts bring is that they blend in with the rest of the garbage on /pol/ and aren't searchable on 4plebs archive like a phrase from a database that's been used 400 times. This strikes me as a natural consequence of how 4chan operates (ID by IP) and the way rules are enforced (we don't police quality). Basically, as it was stated by a mod in here already, this is not something for the janitors to worry about, at least on a moderation of 4chan level. This is not to say you shouldn't worry about it as a 4chan user, but janitors don't have the tools to deal with it, so it's really out of our control.

I guess, I know it feels kind of helpless when we have these tools and we can't use them effectively because the spam is good enough to blend in as regular shitposts. But taking care of rogue spammers is not what janitors are here for. The most we can do is bring attention to the mods about it to deal with, and they're obviously aware.
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>>8592
Wow, that's actually an unbelievably evil piece of software, I'm impressed at the sheer Machiavellian ingenuity.
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>>8608
>the purpose seemed to be an AI chatbot experiment, nothing more
That may possibly be the original intent, but who's to say megacorps, governments, and terrorist groups wouldn't try to take something like this further?
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>>8623
Meds.

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uwu
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I love my new arctic fox!!
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>>8563
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real?
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>>8581
Yeah, Russian.
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is this a basedjak?

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So this picture is popping up multiple time a day in /v/, and it's been reported more than once, and seems to be getting on everyone's nerves. Is this bannable or not, and what's the official position on this?
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It was an offshoot of the tifa hentai threads a month or so ago where people were posting non-worksafe images with small black bars, or pictures of games, over certain parts of the picture and were arguing it's not against the rules.

I pretty much delete it since it only leads to people reposting shit from those threads.
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I've been deleting it, also. It's an ugly ass picture, anyway :o
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I'm necroposting, lmao.
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Seeing these old guard Janitors / Mods discussing what they had going on in their boards... It's like looking into a parallel world. Different, yet not unlike our own.

o7
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Ones came before us ITT might be even dead now.
What is worse, we will never know what was that Tifa pic they were discussing about

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This is a minor issue I've noticed with phone jannying but because the mobile report queue is based on the desktop version if you're left handed or happen to be using your non-dominant hand you're a lot more likely to accidentally delete posts, files or clear things because you have less space to safely scroll with.
If anyone feels like it a more mobile friendly design for the queue would be appreciated.
On a separate but related note on our regular website: the upper bottom link doesn't work, the bottom catalog link is unclickable and the bottom top and post a reply links overlap each other. It has been this way for a while and I don't have anything that could possibly be breaking the website such as extensions.
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>mobile report queue is based on the desktop version if you're left handed or happen to be using your non-dominant hand you're a lot more likely to accidentally delete posts, files or clear things because you have less space to safely scroll with
Here is a hacky solution for this:

1- Open settings
2- Scroll down to custom CSS
3- Put dis in:


.report {
text-align: right;
}


4- Click save
5- ???

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>>8361
>>8228 lurk moar
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>>8364
DaRUDE Sandstorm.

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Henlo
On /vm/ there are ~20 'general' threads on the board right now, having either 'general' in the name, a /xyzg/ identifier, 'dummy text' edition, or links to prior threads.
The board rule three is:
>"Generals"—long-term, recurring threads about a specific game—should be posted in /vg/. This is not to say threads about specific games cannot be created on /vm/, just that long-term, recurring threads belong in /vg/.
However, reports on /vm/ are rare, and I've not seen any for a general where the report seems to be complaining that it exists, as much as one can interpret the reasoning behind a report. Additionally, as a janny and regular of /vg/ as well, I'm fairly certain the /vm/ generals would not survive on /vg/ due to post frequency issues (/vg/ is much faster, /vm/ generals would die without a lot of bump posting).
I don't really want to just delete/WR a bunch of threads despite them being clearly rulebreaking, since anons seem to enjoy being able to have a general for the more niche games and others don't seem to complain, at least via a method I can see.
Can this rule be discussed more? If generals were so prevalent or fast that they choked out non-general content I could see it being an issue, but as is that doesn't seem to be the case. I also see an argument in leaving the rule as is and not enforcing it unless a problem arises, but it is misleading that way. I should also mention I know this exists with at least a starcraft thread on /vst/, and some popular games have eternal general-esque threads on /vrpg/ but not to the same extent at all.
Just looking for any others' thoughts.
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>>8327
video games are gay
OP btfo
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>>8327
The generals rule is an handover from /v/ since all the new /v/ off-shoots share its board-specific rules. Strictly speaking a general is anything called "general" in the OP text or subject or anything referring to "editions", anything containing links to pastebins or too many links to wikis or guides or event related things within the context of it being a recurring thread and not some thread made deliberately to discuss some event or other. Backlinking to the previous thread is fine (you'd think it wouldn't be) and so is having a link or two in there as long as it isn't a pastebin. People will also often post all the links and dumps in the thread instead of the OP which also breaks the rule.
I don't think that anyone thinks that the rule is useful on these boards since people just make one after the other threads anyway without the general formatting so they don't get moderated; all it does is occasionally shit on dozens to hundreds of posters in a given thread and make them re-do the thread without the forbidden text. Mod wise the responses to generals are wide ranging, I've had someone lock a thread because it was a general which makes an example out of the practice whilst some other times I've had mods shrug because the general happened to have 200 or so posts so I should instead wait for weeks/months for it to die before enforcing the rule.
Nonetheless it's still a rule so you should enforce it, most of the threads on most boards don't break the rule despite being one after the other threads too (not even 4chan mods are draconian enough to be super strict about it) so you likely won't have to do anything for months if you properly stamp out the actual generals from the given board.

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Happy New Year friends!
Wishing you small report queues and good board discussions for the new year
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>>8320
we'll all get tomboy gfs this year bros. i can feel it
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>>8322
dubs confirm

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CLEAN IT UP JANNIE
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Janitors clean 4chan and 4channel... but who cleans the Janitor board?
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>>8098
poo
pee
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>Reports: 0 (0)
>Nothing found
Someone else already has...
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>>8295
no need to thank me
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The sign is a subtle joke

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I know I'm in good contact with you fellas, my /co/ janitor friends, but felt the need to put this here because this is a rather elusive issue.
There is an individual who will seize any opportunity to interject Nature Cat. Sometimes seamlessly and in an on-topic seeming manner, but mostly awkwardly and tenuously. That is the principle characterisation of this individual.
I can also (weakly) characterise this individual by the specific set of images they pick.
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/kxA8Z1NKQpU08XhuOw5YMg/
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/iJX2d5VVB38YFpMVyFbQRg/
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/vhC-rXQ9154_QcuXnE1-kA/
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/1As6E8gkeb_IKV_kbgQBiA/
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/kYK7oBnFknOBd8M3I4g-6A/
As it stands currently, this is a developing issue. This stuff isn't really being reported at the moment because I suppose it's quite recent or stealthy, so as a consequence I haven't been able frequently request bans on this individual in order to profile them as an 'evader' (and simply put note them in the evaders thread >>1697) or the like.
Regardless of that, wishing to speak as an anon and not just a janitor, I've been finding this behaviour mainly in threads I browse. Found it a little funny at first, but then it just became annoying. Do not wish for a death of a thousand cuts on an otherwise great board.

So be wary of naturecatfag. Thank you.

I'm going to follow up this up and address grammarfag eventually.
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Ok so is there a general gameplan about what to do with all the trans shitposting? It keeps coming up and derailing multiple theads.
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>>8246
That's the entire website, not just /co/. Nothing to be done about it except what we normally do.
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>>8248
that image... perfect!
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>>8259
you are perfect :)

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On two separate issues, I feel like bothering the moderation team on IRC/Discord is far more trouble than the problem itself; and as a result deletion of the post/thread is the easier answer. Obviously that is not acceptable, and as such I would very much suggest that both the Moving of Threads and the Warn for Non-English be less reliant on @ing Mods directly.

For Moving Threads, it should be a "send move request" type automation where either it gets placed in a global mod queue for thread moves, or an IRC based system where it automatically @'s Mods. Obviously this would also contain the information for a suggested board to move it to as well. So to give an example, there's a /bant/ tier religion debate thread on /pol/; I simply click a little "M" button on the post and that brings me to a popup menu that asks where I want the thread sent to. For some boards, this might be a small list (so you can't send ANY thread to ANY board, just some boards). For /pol/ that list might be restricted to "/bant/, /his/, /x/, or /trash/".

For Warn for Non-English, this is a bit of a /pol/ specific request. It is a semi-frequent occurrence on /pol/ that users of a thread need to be publicly warned by a Mod for lapsing into German or other such languages; and I take issue with that approach for two reasons. One, it feels like a Mod is coming down from on high to say "STOP HAVING FUN"; and two, it doesn't feel rules based. Oh such, it is against the board's rules to post in Non-English, but which rule? The answer is "none of the numbered ones", it is just an unlisted rule. And while that in itself might not need to change it to feel like just a regular moment of individuals being warned for breaking rules rather than an extraordinary event that the whole thread is going to reply to.

I don't think either of these will expand Janitorial powers in a negative way, as the first is just making it easier to get moderator attention, while the second is merely adding a new warn request.
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>>8102
it's called the hide thread button
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>>8103
janny BTFO by BASED MOD
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>>8103
whoops ive been using the ban button this whole time
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>>8102
out of curiosity, how do you feel about coffee?
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>>8103
Baste and redpiled

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55 songs selected haphazardly and arranged in no significant manner. The selection process: opaque, ad-hoc and delayed for months.
Truly, a soundtrack as eclectic as the janitor team itself.

>"I found it quite fitting when cleaning the boards. Rather, it just flows nicely." --W

>"i dont know what this is but whoever put it in the playlist, i love you" --B

>"I'm gonna end up organizing a playlist, aren't I..." --A

>"True to the album's slippery not-quite-an-album/not-quite-a-score form, the contributions can work as the big showcase moments, or just as part of the flow [...]" -- Pitchfork, 9/10

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2014057/Imageboard%20Compilation%20-%20Songs%20of%20the%20Janiteam.zip
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>>7496
there's a penis under the censor bar
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>>7497
Maybe I did commission porn on the side, who knows?
Guess you'll have to download the album when it's done to find out.
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>>7555
testan new login
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>>7497
yeah, mine

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Can we have a /v/ thread going? Current state, spammers, console wars... and their solutions.

Please take note that I have not been a janitor of /v/ for long so take my words with a grain of salt.

During my shift, this is the current events on /v/:

- The Tomodachi life incident: those threads quickly derailed into SJW/gays hate threads and they never talk about the game itself. My opinion is they're not /v/ materials.

- The vidya draw threads are constantly fighting between the waifu/fur/serious vidya. Every time a draw thread is up, my report page is filled with reports of requests they don't like. They even split into 2 threads recently, which seems to be impractical to me. I have been leaving them to settle among themselves but things. just got worse.

- Off-topic: >What game where I can dual wield like a fookin legend: this is a thinly veiled Game of Thrones thread and they have been spammed constantly in the last few days. Please delete or BR them.
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>>7658
i typically just move them to /trash/ since it's just a furry circlejerk
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>>7658
I typically request they get /trash/ed
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This guy posts in every Fire Emblem thread on /v/, and I know he's gotten hit for Off Topic before. Should I hit him going forward, or just ignore?
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It's been brought up in the discord before, but it would be helpful if we could have /v/4 as a WR'able template. There are times when there's some news that comes out and anons spam the catalog with low effort threads about it. I think the text an anon gets if we submit a QR for reposting is "No spamming/flooding" which doesn't come off the same as "check the catalog before you post".
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>>8092
It's heavily implied that if you were banned for spamming there had to have been other posts to render yours spam.

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66 songs selected for free by our fellow janitors and moderators. These include many genres since the theme was songs that we liked.

Be sure to check out the cover art which was made by some of our janitors just for this new album! A full rez version is included in the Extras folder.

Download Link: https://mega.nz/file/X9IgRJCR
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>>8041
It's Over.
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>>8041
kek how?

>>8037
yoooo we need more folks crankin out SONGS if this is to be done by september jannios
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>kek how?
i use musicbee set up to autoscrobble anything i have whenever i play anything on there. normally when im listening to music i dont want to scrobble i use default windows groove music but i had already added it to my musicbee library by the time i realized my mistake...
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>>8043
MIKE HOCK LOL
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Due to the projects initial overly ambitious scope we'll now also be accepting song submissions like last year in order to complement the album.
2021's theme is: "Songs you listen to while jannying."
Please DM me your song submissions (YouTube links and files of any kind are fine) or ping me on Janiteam for larger files (or use cloud services).
To assure 100% album inclusion this time around do not assume I saved your song unless I told you so. Discord is not great for this but it's okay enough to not justify other delivery methods.
The deadline for song submissions is 2 weeks from now. The album will be released at the latest mid October.

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User self-post deletion should be disabled in /qa/, and after that somebody should check on the board from time to time and ban all the open proxies that are being used by bots to make upwards of 500 self-deleting posts per day.

There was a time when /qa/ was a deliberately ignored trash heap forgotten by everyone, and therefore it didn't actually matter that /qa/ had transformed into a bot-moderated chatroom for users banned one thousand times over, but now that there's a global announcement redirecting everyone to /qa/ to discuss 4chan it would be nice if the first thing they saw on arrival wasn't a bot-managed junkyard.
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>>7870
I think the point of /qa/ was to make a ws random board that wasn't /vip/ :^)
Naturally it wouldn't make much sense to enforce that all discussion should be meta since who'd want to janny hundreds of "meta for this feel?" type posts of people trying to skirt the rules.

>>7880
>handling meta threads in general
Either ask them to be moved to /qa/ or delete/WR/BR them.
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>>7883
Meta threads shouldn't be moved to /qa/ though because they have legitimate discussion about the state of a board. Why are these threads being moved to /qa/ when it's a known, literal shitheap where it will be spammed and ignored? All it does when they are moved/deleted is make it look like the moderation doesn't care about the site or it's users.
I know people can fill out feedback forms or go to the IRC but those both feel like awful options too. The feedback forms have no indication that they are actually read or addressed while the IRC requires anons to go offsite just to get a response. It just makes it seem like the moderation is purposefully trying to push away discussion about the site to places other than on the website itself.
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>>7941
>they have legitimate discussion about the state of a board
Which is off-topic on the board itself and can be had on /qa/. I've never seen a meta thread get shat on after being moved either so I don't think /qa/ is a place where it's impossible to discuss meta.
If you actually do think about it, it makes sense that things are the way they are to some degree. It doesn't make sense to build a web chat client into 4chan for the sake of solving bans and meta stuff, it doesn't make sense to tell everyone that their suggestions from the feedback form were read nor does it make sense to try super hard to get anon-kun to notice that mod-sama-senpai still cares about him. Which isn't to say that there are things that could be done that aren't done.
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>>6485
sorry if this is a retarded question but is this dashed outline related to janny tools?
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>>8020
i think that means you either have it hidden or pinned in the catalog

A guy started a thread on /lit/ earlier this morning saying that we could improve board quality by posting a collection of commonly used and/or popular charts within the sticky.
>>>/lit/18407396
He says that this would cut down on the amount of threads of people asking for beginner books or books on topics which have been discussed a thousand times before.
I agree with him, I think it's a good idea. At the moment, the board is overflowing with recc threads which more or less follow the same exact discussion every single day. Recc threads would probably still get posted if there were charts in the sticky, but at least not as many, and then there would be more of an excuse to prune the ones that do get posted. This would also slow down the board hopefully thereby improving quality.
Below I figured I'd post a handful of charts which I think would be most appropriate.
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/lit/ janny here, sounds good
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ok :)


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