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I've been using a grease monkey addon that lets me search for strings throughout a board, so I use it to search for "blox" and it's helped me a lot to get rid of those shitty posts.

But I got to thinking of a way to proactively fight it. Rather than straight up banning someone if their posts contain "blox" which would just result in more captcha writing to bypass the robot or just gibberish in general, why not simply not bump the thread if their posts contains some form of /blox/i ?
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The way I've been dealing with 'blox' posts is on a case by case basis. It seems like almost half of 'blox' posts are original content and they decided to tag it with a blox for shits and giggles.

I think that another effective tool to raise post quality in /r9k/, beyond disabling thread bumping from blox-posts, would be adding forced anonymous.
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Hmm, what if, a post that is delete and contains blox gets a mute of a certain period?

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Well, I suppose a ruling is in order. If one has already been made and I missed the memo, I apologize in advance.

I'm sure the other /jp/ Janis know what I mean when I say "Gravure General". Obviously the "Net Idol General" is nothing but Milk dump and, well, no. Just no.

Gravure General, from what I've personally seen, is nothing more than /s/ dumps. The counter argument that is applied is to Touhou threads, that the claim are basically /c/ dumps.

As /jp/sies, we can go around and around all day on /q/ about what should go where and do what with whom, but is there an official Yes/No when it comes to image dumps? As some of you have seen of me, I have very little interest in what the users want. The monkeys shouldn't run the zoo.

But ... I've seen such things come and go here and there as time marches on and, well, I don't want to screw anyone over by removing something that I should have let stay.

Obviously, Touhou is fine. Specific Idol discussions are fine, AKB etc, and Milk can die in a fire. But, I'm a little iffy on the whole Gravure thing.

If someone would enlighten me, I would be most appreciative.
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Over the years I've said the same thing over the grey area topics in /jp/: It's not about the topic itself, it's about the spam.

/jp/ has proven that they can discuss anime, videogame, light novels and gravure. Even JAV in rare occasions. And yet we bring down the hammer hard on the kuroko, on the siongirl.jpg, sena and so on.

In other words, Gravure is fine. DHAF trying to force it along with chakuero which is outright nsfw that fits better in other boards is not okay. And god knows we already are too flexible when it comes to nws, technically the censors are not good enough and should be posted in other image hosts and crosslinked, but it proved to do more harm to casual discussion than anything.

Point is that spam is the target regardless of topic. http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/?task=search2&search_subject=gravure
They reacted as spammers, they're treated as such.

So now you're thinking why can't we be more consistent to their eyes and at least change the rules so it includes that gravure is okay if kept tasteful. And I say to you we have changed the rules of the board like no other and it changes nothing. The same 2 spammers keep reposting milk as Net Idol.

We could use a mod post in the ongoing /q/ thread but nobody wants to touch the board officially lest they trigger more problems. We've always talked of a native mod being a solution, but it would just escalate the attrition war further.

Once again, we have many issues and I no longer have solutions. We just try to keep up with the shitposting and keep the enclaves clean. It's the best we can hope for now.


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>>2552
Agreed. Gravure is pretty fine, honestly. It's still an otaku interest that can fly on the board, as long as it doesn't dominate it.
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Alrighty and thank you both. I reckon for now I'll stay the course and see how she goes.

Abuse a privilege, lose a privilege. Makes perfect sense to me!

Thanks again for clarification. :3

Is anyone having trouble connecting to Rizon? I haven't been able to for hours now.
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Everything seems fine for me. Email me if you still have trouble connecting.

grapeape@4chan.org
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>>2536
I was just able to connect, I guess some sort of error on my part. Thanks.

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Delete/ban it please. It's really shitting up the boards.

Would be nice if we could get a template for it as well.

Examples of /pol/ style shitposting:
>good goy / good goyim
>happymerchant.jpg
>SRS
>any kind of general baseless blaming of bad things on jews/minorities/foreigners/etc
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>>2505
I need sleep.

Introducing this ban would need to be tactful though. Otherwise it would just feed the SRS/feminazi tinfoil hats since it means that we're sanitizing the site like good goyim for our NWO overlords. It's still a necessary addition though, just using global 3 is not enough since it's broad and vague.
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I dont mind using the global three request in most cases, which is broad but covers "trolls" and "racism" and seems like the right template to use for now, given your examples. I do see posts like youve described, and also get quite a few posts reported where users have just been posting racist slurs and racist flames, and it doesnt always have a /pol/ feel to it, if you know what I mean. Its more like /b/ shit, and so its that 'Outside /b/' template I'll use in both cases usually.

Its a fact though that alot of devisive political issues like race and gender permeate most sports. Its never too far away from Soccer in particular, which does take up quite alot of the boards discussion at certain times.

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1406986/sheikh-abdullah-bin-nasser-al-thani-says-racism-behind-malaga-exit?cc=5739

^ Youve got your racist complaints from team owners

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22085707

^ Your recently deceased center right politicians and their involvement in sport

You cant really avoid politics on the BBC's Sports main football page today, pic very related. And so it goes that we accomadate quite a bit of discussion about some political issues pertatining to sports.

So anyway, if users start getting banned for "/pol/ shit outside of /pol/" on /sp/, it might just instigate more /pol/ type posting than there already is. You would have to be very careful using that template or it could quickly cause a backlash and create an influx of /pol/ threads disguised as sports threads, and thankfully there arent too many of these atm.

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>>2513
All of that being said, It could be used for handling news & /pol/ related 'game' threads (which we've been clamping down on). It might help gett the message across that /sp/ isnt the place for that type of thing

For example, some politically charged news story suddenly gets alot of rolling media coverage i.e developments in North Korea, and /sp/ will want to create a game style thread to follow the story as it develops. To say they can be persistent in attempting to start threads and talk about this crap on /sp/ would be an under-statement. It really has got to the point where any major news event breaks, you need to babysit it for an hour or so and try and encourage them to go to the relevant board (and often these boards are /pol/ or /b/). Still, The templates we have and deletions we make often work out just fine.
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>>2514
>It really has got to the point where any major news event breaks, you need to babysit it for an hour or so and try and encourage them to go to the relevant board

This. Whenever a major news story breaks and I see it on the internet I know if I don't get behind a computer soon /sp/ will be covered in it.
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>>2488
Deleting every post that mentions jews or SRS will only incite more paranoia among /pol/ and confirm their suspicions of an SRS person infiltrating 4chan staff. I think the real trouble is pic related.

It is a picture that is recipe for derailment. It was posted on both /tv/ and /sp/ tonight. Same file name, likely same guy.

>>>/co/48271612 I wonder how hard /co/ is going to spam HSG the day homestuck ends
>>>/co/48271620 Why would /co/ spam us
> /co/
> us

A subculture on /co/ that in every sense of the term believes it is separate from the board, beginning with but not limited to complete disregard for the board's rule and culture.

Ironic shitposting and spamming, blogging, inane lifestyle questions unrelated to HS, arguments about triggers/fat people, porn commissions, RPing, avatarfagging, and a shipping to content ratio that surpasses Gravity Falls General aka Twincest Central.

The regulars insist this is okay because they don't infest other threads on /co/. If anything, that makes it worse because it justifies ignoring the board hosting their general and discussions rarely indicate its residents are even familiar with /co/ content. The kind of discourse is a lot more visibly underage/hikki, with the kind of "validate my life" horseshit /co/ has largely managed to avoid.

Literally the only link HSG has to /co/ is that HS is putatively a webcomic, but given HS's roots in video game culture and occasional interactive content, it seems like it belongs in /v/ or /vg/ a hell of a lot more than /co/, and its cultural disconnect would be far smaller.

I get that this is easy to boil down to "NOT MUH /co/" but it's really demoralizing clearing a level of shitposting I don't see elsewhere on /co/.
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>>2515
This was HSG's response to a fanartist deciding the community was toxic and leaving it. The part that's missing from the screencap is them repeatedly reposting a traumatic event she stupidly shared with them -- because HSG passes itself off as a community rather than a fandom or general interest on /co/.
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>>2516
I single out Homestuck because its visible fanbase fixates on characters who are intentional stereotypes of terrible internet personalities, and internet forums are to them a license to roleplay those characters (directly or indirectly via imitation) the kinds of content/behaviors we have global rules against, and because it frequently moves so fast that monitoring it comes at the cost of monitoring the rest of the board (even with more janitors).

I hear repeatedly in #janiteam that ironic shitposting is still shitposting. If I were a regular /co/ user I'd follow "ignore things you don't like," but I don't have that luxury.

Last night I had to prune disturbingly similar personal drama out of Gravity Falls General, the likes of which I haven't seen in other non-HS generals on /co/ before, surpassing the usual "shut up tripfag" nonsense.

Thoughts?

Should HSG be on a board closer to its own culture and interests, or should it be moderated more strictly?

Even if it's not having any direct effect on the rest of /co/, the precedent of "X gets immunity" either by decree or de facto worries me.

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I would like to seriously suggest /vg/ generals that have run their course be retired by staff. If a general can't sustain an adequate amount of topic related discussion then it's time for them to go and any new discussion to be sent back to /v/ unless it becomes a problem like before.

/vg/ in its current state is a bit of a laughing stock because not only are shitposters and random off topic "this is a chat room" posters are allowed to stay, but that's the precedent set.

Retiring generals like the KS or Mass Effect generals will set an opposite example that I think might help the boards improve tremendously.

Thoughts from fellow staffers? Preferably ones who frequent or are familiar with /vg/.
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/vg/ autists are a special brand, no matter what you do they will continue.
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Take it from experience: You can and will never be able to stop them. I really hate to say this but containment is the best thing. Request the appropriate ban for their rulebreaking, but trying to stomp out this bee's hive will only force them to go else where. While I do not condone their rulebreaking, I rather them keep to themselves and their autistic ways in their own autistic thread. If they want to stray in to other areas, they will be punished for their shitposting and off-topic bullshit.

Keep it in one thread and let's not rile the autistic children. It's not easy, and not the answer isn't the best, but it's the truth.
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I guess using that image might have given the wrong impression. I agree completely that the truly autistic shitposters of /vg/ are there for ever, and I don't mind dealing with them.

It was just a suggestion that might generally improve the board overall, and make things a little easier on /vg/ janitors in the long run.

As >>2472 said, /vg/ autists are a special brand, because it's a special board. It's the closer to a forum than any other board, so I think it needs to be treated a little differently.

Sure it might kick up the hornets nest to kill ME or KS generals, or even SC2 generals for that matter (returning SC discussion back to /v/), but I think that's a short term effect.

Anyways, just an idea.
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As another point you could always just say that's what you intend to do and we could see if there was any effect, without taking any action at all.
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As a final point because I'm going to wager mods don't dig the idea, and an updated perspective after discussing it with mods I'd like to point out the furry vn generals that occur on /vg/.

They are probably the only general I can actually get rid of. They go through great efforts to police themselves and make sure this doesn't happen. As a result, the quality is higher than other generals. Threads on /v/ or any other board can be deleted, generals can also be deleted but it's not to the same effect as deleting a thread off /v/, the two boards are just far too vastly different.

Being able to retire generals puts that tool back in /vg/ janitors hands.

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Do you suppose any good would come of changing the name of /jp/ to Otaku Community?

Culture: The arts and other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively.

Some Otaku may have some things in common, while others have other things in common, but I'm not too sure that there's anything "culturally" true for all Otaku as a collective.

"Community" has less of a hive-mind feel to it. Less power-ranking involved as to "who is more misunderstood", etc.

'Tis just a thought.
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Our problem, which is the rooted shitposter factions, is not going away with rule tweaking or a name change. Things didn't shift dramatically after the Japan/General change after all.

How can we deal with the "fugg ur mum" being the standard reply these days? Not sure, I've been trying to increase the quality moderation, but we only fall into the attrition war dynamic and the way that ends is a bunch of innocent posters getting caught in the crossfire and very tired janitors.

Anyway, at this point /jp/ is /jp/, it's not really defined by the name or the loose ruleset. Our issues stem from the userbase itself rather than the nomination. So we do our best to keep the enclaves safe and spam to a minimum. Which we're actually doing pretty well in the last couple seasons, we're no longer losing pages every day which I choose to consider a victory.
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>>2481
What he said.
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>>2481
>>2482
Excellent. Thank you. :3
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Okie I think I really like what you did much better than a simple name change.

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Hello,

Is there a possibility to filter out thrads on the reportpage which were already deleted?

Today i was greeted by a total of 16 reports of which every single post was already deleted. i dont know what happened there but i still had to clear each report one by one.
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test
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>>2434
Mr. VacBob the anonymous manager.
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>>2439
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It seems that some kind of caching is going on in the database. The extension I use automatically appends a random variable to the report page's URL which somehow forces the server to treat reports as unique requests.

Perhaps the source code for the reports page could check the query against nonexistent reports, instead.
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test

Is Rizon down for anyone else? I can't seem to log on, getting this constantly:
>[17:59:53] Server ERROR: :Closing Link: (No more connections allowed on that IP)
>[17:59:53] [SOCKET ERROR]: Remote end has closed the connection
>[17:59:53] Connection terminated
pic unrelated
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I literally just got back on but any connections were being denied for at least 10+ mins.
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There was a minor netsplit that disconnected half of all users, then another one that disconnected everyone else. All of this about 30 minutes ago. Looks like Rizon has crapped itself. Keep trying, it'll be back up soon.
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Yeah, all of rizon is dead. I'm keeping steam open as an alternate communication method.
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We're back, try rejoining now
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>>2461
Nope. Still not working for me.

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Since us /gd/ janitors were supposed to get together to talk about the board but never did, let's just do it this way.

Specifically, there seems to be something resembling a consensus on the board about the sticky needing to be changed, the two main critiques I keep seeing being that 1) GIMP is shit and shouldn't represent the board, and 2) graphic design is more than just using software to make and manipulate pictures.

Also, use this thread to submit possibilities for a new sticky image.
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I was thinking we could add a few more rules, in addition to all requests belong on /r/, to the sticky to avoid confusion on certain topics such as:

1. On the topic of piracy you may not request or post links to warez: cracks, keygens, serials, etc, or warez sites; these threads will be deleted immediately.

2. Brony/MLP images, avatars and other works should still be posted in >>>/mlp/, no exceptions.

3. This is a Burichan SFW board, NSFW content will be deleted based on context.

I want to add these in because they are the greatest offenders I've seen reported so far.

--

As for the sticky image and content, I think the /gd/ community is the best resource for that, I know they're pretty excited and talented to get a better sticky and they've already made quite a few 4chan /gd/ logo designs in the past.

We should also be thinking about adding more links to tutorials on the sticky, much like the one /3/ has, so people can focus threads on more specific content. I've been following a few users who have compiled a lot of external sites they think would be helpful to have on a sticky and it looks pretty promising.

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>>2448
Yeah the board's shaping up to be pretty sweet, and it's really scratching an itch for me. I think the design community can be really full of shit, so it's wonderful to have a 4chan level of freedom to talk real shit (or just talk shit).

As for rules, I think we need to write a full fucking constitution and every sentence is just "No requests." Because goddamn I can't believe how many people won't read a one-line sticky.
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>>2450
>As for rules, I think we need to write a full fucking constitution and every sentence is just "No requests." Because goddamn I can't believe how many people won't read a one-line sticky.

Absolutely, it gets pretty silly.

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http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/31447047/
http://dnsev.github.com/4cs/

Silver Linings Playbook was broken into MP4 chunks, encoded into JPEGs whose appearance is a screengrab of each chunk, and with the userscript installed the script strips off the header, rewrites it as a blob and points a VIDEO element at the blob.

As someone who remembers Lithursday on /b/, this is probably worth detecting and blocking for the same reasons.

The image is the OP image for analysis by whichever devmod cares to pick it apart.

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Ok what'd I break?
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>>2417
>There is a thread here >>2103 for bugs and issues of this nature.
Oops, sorry. I should have checked for that. My bad.
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Yes
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https://boards.4chan.org/q/res/507139#q510099


This issue may also be affecting the text boards somehow
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>>2424
bah the link 404's but some user has reported the issue in the text board thread on /q/
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It seems to only be affecting the stuff from the board itself. It doesn't happen from the actual Janitor screen (with all the reports and such).

So, it means unless someone reports it, I can't BR it.

Quick fix to that: Report it yourself! Then it shows in the Janitor screen.

Been some discussion about the sudden deletion of Bear threads on /lgbt/, so I thought I'd grab a little clarification since I haven't actually seen the threads themselves.

The "bear" community (burly gay men) is part of the lgbt community, so it would seem fine in its essence. Now, if they're becoming /soc/ hook-ups or porn dumps, I can understand that.

It's really more of a curiosity and nobody's archiving lgbt yet, so I can't go look for myself.
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I've seen them and they've been ONLY porn dumps (/hm/ material) or hook ups (/soc/ material), not a curiosity. If any are in fact curiosity or anything that pertains to /lgbt/, then of course they will be left untouched.

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>Ban evasion will result in permanent bans—no exceptions.

The whole discussion about the threads' place in /vr/ or /v/ is shedding some light into the ban evasion thing some time ago
http://rememberedoldbuddy.tumblr.com/post/44857563992/from-the-blog-author-about-monday-night

We need more than just an uneducated hasty decision that will hang over us for years. OP is becoming more of a personality and clearly going against the few rules we try to uphold, sticking with /vr/ for now not out of concern for the topic and the board's goals but because "moderation is almost as lax as /v/". Really don't see why we need to make an exception for threads that are turning into far too much trouble to keep around.

Of course this is the least of our problems but it would help to have a clear response on the status of ROB threads.
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They're not discussion, they're just culture, so I think they should stay on /v/, if anywhere.

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The /vr/ ruleset seems poorly thought out, at least according to the sticky.

Is the intention to exclude true 3D console games/32bit era games so that people can speak about a certain era in each respective camp? As in, the golden age of consoles, PC games, and arcades? If so, why not word it something like:

"Welcome to retro games.

This board is for the discussion of classic, or 'retro' games. Retro gaming means computer games and arcade games (including pinball and other similar games you would find in an arcade) that existed before the year 2000, and consoles from the fourth generation and earlier."
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Welcome to Retro Games.

This board is for the discussion of classic, or 'retro' games. Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games circa 1999 and earlier. Note that 'Sixth generation', and later consoles are not considered retro.
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I've removed the part about fifth-gen consoles. 1999 is still the cut off year. Everyone is going to have a different definition of retro. A line, however arbitrary, has to be drawn somewhere.
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Let's party like it's 1999 then.

I attached this... possibly the only good thing to come out of /v/...
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>>2334
Would have been better if it were merely replaced with a ban on sixth generation and later IMHO. There are some people in /vr/ who are pushing Dreamcast and even Gamecube and PS2 games now.


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