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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/01/2024 13:20
Revelation 22:13
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Revelation 22:13 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<13> I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/01/2024 13:27
Hebrews 13:2
BibleBot BOT 08/01/2024 13:27
Hebrews 13:2 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<2> Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
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Мико⚜🐾 08/01/2024 13:28
Psalm 13:1
BibleBot BOT 08/01/2024 13:28
Psalms 13:1 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<1> For the end, a Psalm of David. The fool has said in his heart, There is no God. They have corrupted themselves, and become abominable in their devices; There is none that does goodness, there is not even so much as one.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/01/2024 13:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRuIYcFx4qk
Whoisprakasaka
Motivating Wisdom “It’s The Journey, Not The Destination” (Full Vid...
Arcane BOT 08/01/2024 13:35
@Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian has reached level 33. GG!
GR 08/01/2024 17:39
Isaiah 6:8
BibleBot BOT 08/01/2024 17:39
Isaiah 6:8 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<8> And I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?" Then I said, "Here am I! Send me."
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GR 08/01/2024 17:39
Always be brave even in the toughest of times, for you can never lose
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/01/2024 17:47
Acts 16:27-28
BibleBot BOT 08/01/2024 17:47
Acts 16:27-28 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<27> When the jailer woke and saw that the prison doors were open, he drew his sword and was about to kill himself, supposing that the prisoners had escaped. <28> But Paul cried with a loud voice, "Do not harm yourself, for we are all here."
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/02/2024 11:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGbZqzaCBwE
Revelation 22:13
Christians Protest About the Olympic Blasphemy Outside The French E...
Мико⚜🐾 08/02/2024 17:05
"Be kinder than necessary because everyone is fighting their war or battle and suffering losses. Live simply, love generously, care deeply for the needs of your neighbour, speak softly... and leave the rest to the Lord. It is not faith, nor dogmatics, nor mysticism, nor asceticism, nor long prayer, but love that makes one a true Christian. Everything becomes pointless without this fundamental thing- love for our neighbour."
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/02/2024 17:18
Amen brother
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/03/2024 17:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjDQKE-OOSQ
Revelation 22:13
Speakers Corner - Bob Gets Into a Heated Debate With A Liberal Trol...
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Bob whipping idiots at Speaker's Corner again
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Common Bob W
Мико⚜🐾 08/03/2024 17:45
Bobzilla
Мико⚜🐾 08/03/2024 19:29
Eurocyon 08/04/2024 18:21
https://youtu.be/ZViK-uecRQ8?si=Z449jGy2rmVYteru
Lorenzo Hamza
Shocking Prophecies of Muhammad PBUH about the 21st century (+1 bon...
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Мико⚜🐾 08/04/2024 19:31
Мико⚜🐾 08/06/2024 11:46
thoughtless critique on Buddhist position (edited)
11:47
https://socratesjourney.org/logos-and-justin-martyr/
Socrates
Justin Martyr Reveals the Profound Truth of Logos Spermatikos
Justin Martyr was instrumental in uniting faith and philosophy with the idea that ancient virtuous pagans were redeemed via Christ as Logos.
11:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s7SddedW_g
Theology Academy
Who Was Justin Martyr? Justin Martyr Biography
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Orthodox_Christianity_contrasted_with_Buddhism_A_brief_reflection_and_comparative_analysis.pdf
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Sogga 08/06/2024 21:06
https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/s/VQsPeB5Ndr
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Explore this post and more from the Christianity community
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@Мико⚜🐾 thoughts?
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(Most upvoted post in sub btw)
Мико⚜🐾 08/06/2024 21:07
already annoyed by the "gaychurch.org" link, the fuck is this shit?
21:08
the statement "You cant be a Christian and hate gays" is true, we are called to love all. but that love includes expressing disdain and disapproval for what is sin, for what falls short of the glory of God
21:12
his critique of the New Testament not specifically using the word "homosexuality" in infamous verses regarding sexual immorality like Romans 1, 1 Corinthians 6, Galatians 5 etc. is disingenuous and seems to ignore the universal reading of the patristic Fathers of these texts. and Koine Greek =/= English, these words that are translated from the source texts so we can read them often have several meanings depending on the context. he will cite "Psuedo-Dionysus", but not John Chrysostom or St. Basil (edited)
Sogga 08/06/2024 21:14
never expected this topic to be this complex
Sogga
never expected this topic to be this complex
Мико⚜🐾 08/06/2024 21:15
modern scholars are of the devil, so its good to know these things just in case
Мико⚜🐾
modern scholars are of the devil, so its good to know these things just in case
Sogga 08/06/2024 21:16
wait to be called homophobic by the opposition
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lmao
Sogga
wait to be called homophobic by the opposition
Мико⚜🐾 08/06/2024 21:16
the opposition cant even often justify the existence of objective morality
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let alone whether "homophobia" is evil or not lol. its not for the retard that spews them that i learn assorted topics such as these, but for the crowd watching. because if youre using arguments of this level, youre probably far gone atp
Sogga 08/06/2024 21:20
tbf, both homophobic people and people defending the gays are tarded
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people who will never settle their differences will be tarded
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Sogga 1:23 "Settle a difference between your enemy"
Мико⚜🐾 08/06/2024 21:21
there is no differences to be settled with a sodomite who wants to subvert society and bring your children down with them
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nor are there any differences to be settled with a callous person who cant walk in someones shoes for even a moment, is there? i feel terrible for those who still struggle with homosexual desire, may God give them the strength to overcome it (edited)
Paeikazy 08/06/2024 21:23
Pavel 1:20 "When the king of the world has decended i shall be its heir, and when i become the king of the world all will be fine! and my queen Fia will be with me for all eternity"
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Pavel 1:25 "solve your arguments as i have decreed, talk it out until an agreement, if no agreement is made, it is fine to duel to the death, and let me watch" (edited)
21:26
says so right here in the Holy Book of Averi
Мико⚜🐾
his critique of the New Testament not specifically using the word "homosexuality" in infamous verses regarding sexual immorality like Romans 1, 1 Corinthians 6, Galatians 5 etc. is disingenuous and seems to ignore the universal reading of the patristic Fathers of these texts. and Koine Greek =/= English, these words that are translated from the source texts so we can read them often have several meanings depending on the context. he will cite "Psuedo-Dionysus", but not John Chrysostom or St. Basil (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/06/2024 21:28
touching on Psuedo-Dionysus, im sure in his works even if he did say there were OT passages stating God to be male and female simultaneously (he was a 6th century theologian who falsely attributed his works to Dionysus, a 1st century Saint) i cant be sure because he did not cite them in the original post, this most likely stems from a heterodox exigesis of Proverbs, where Solomon refers to Wisdom as feminine for poetry's sake (edited)
21:29
if he was to be consistent He would have to say Wisdom in Proverbs 8 (who mirrors Christ) is not a Son. but a Daughter.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/06/2024 21:51
John 3:16
BibleBot BOT 08/06/2024 21:51
John 3:16 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<16> For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/06/2024 21:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNmDF1-O9gI
Jaiden Forrest
Athletes Mention Jesus at the Olympics, Then THIS Happens
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Why do they hate the message so much?
bongvain 08/07/2024 11:38
shoutout to moronic satanists saying weed is satanic
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making me stronger day by day being my opps
serpente482 08/07/2024 11:47
Weed is gay
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And being gay is satanic
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11:48
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serpente482
And being gay is satanic
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/07/2024 11:48
True
Arcane BOT 08/07/2024 11:48
@Extra-sensory PURRception has reached level 13. GG!
serpente482
Weed is gay
bongvain 08/07/2024 11:49
the retards who wont shut up about it are
bongvain
the retards who wont shut up about it are
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/07/2024 11:49
bongvain 08/07/2024 11:50
boohoo nigga dont want to hear my point
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bongvain
boohoo nigga dont want to hear my point
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/07/2024 11:50
What's your point then?
bongvain 08/07/2024 11:50
guilty by association because soygoys
bongvain
guilty by association because soygoys
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/07/2024 11:51
Weed?
bongvain 08/07/2024 11:52
better than opium
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/07/2024 11:52
All drugs are gay
bongvain 08/07/2024 11:53
if i break your arms and tell the jews (doctors) to put you unconsciouss with a drug would that be gay
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its all to fix your arms doe or something
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/07/2024 11:53
I guess that it wouldn't be in that scenario. But drugs used just for pleasure are gay
bongvain 08/07/2024 11:54
honestly before pot was on harder drugs
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helped because was someone who actually could use it for something other than recreation
bongvain
helped because was someone who actually could use it for something other than recreation
serpente482 08/07/2024 12:02
Do you use it for recreation?
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2024 12:15
if he was on harder drugs before and his ultimate endgoal is to quit or at least mitigate his substance usage to a controllable level
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where its not holding him back in life, then i dont really see the issue here, as long as hes being honest with himself right
Мико⚜🐾
if he was on harder drugs before and his ultimate endgoal is to quit or at least mitigate his substance usage to a controllable level
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/07/2024 12:17
Ig he's trying to quit then it's fine, if he isn't then it isn't fine. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2024 12:17
only thing i would say is to not smoke it but ingest it instead because it has less negative impact on the body, while having the same high
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and it takes a bit longer, forces you to be patient and not use it as a potential copout, but an actual medication (edited)
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whats done is ultimately done but nothing was created to be smoked, thats something we created
Extra-sensory PURRception
Ig he's trying to quit then it's fine, if he isn't then it isn't fine. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2024 12:20
Мико⚜🐾
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/07/2024 12:20
12:21
This chat can be used for anything spiritual right?
Extra-sensory PURRception
This chat can be used for anything spiritual right?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2024 12:31
Yes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Yes
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/07/2024 12:35
Alright
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2024 20:36
"Protectress of the Roman People"
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Мико⚜🐾
if he was on harder drugs before and his ultimate endgoal is to quit or at least mitigate his substance usage to a controllable level
bongvain 08/08/2024 01:59
this
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/08/2024 10:20
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/08/2024 10:24
Would killing demons be considered a sin in Christianity?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/08/2024 10:25
Hating those who hate God is justified
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/08/2024 10:26
Okay
Мико⚜🐾 08/08/2024 11:56
Ezekiel 16:2-8 NKJV
BibleBot BOT 08/08/2024 11:56
Ezekiel 16:2-8 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<2> "Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations, <3> and say, ‘Thus says the Lord God to Jerusalem: "Your birth and your nativity are from the land of Canaan; your father was an Amorite and your mother a Hittite. <4> As for your nativity, on the day you were born your navel cord was not cut, nor were you washed in water to cleanse you; you were not rubbed with salt nor wrapped in swaddling cloths. <5> No eye pitied you, to do any of these things for you, to have compassion on you; but you were thrown out into the open field, when you yourself were loathed on the day you were born. <6> "And when I passed by you and saw you struggling in your own blood, I said to you in your blood, ‘Live!' Yes, I said to you in your blood, ‘Live!' <7> I made you thrive like a plant in the field; and you grew, matured, and became very beautiful. Your breasts were formed, your hair grew, but you were naked and bare. <8> "When I passed by you again and looked upon you, indeed your time was the time of love; so I spread My wing over you and covered your nakedness. Yes, I swore an oath to you and entered into a covenant with you, and you became Mine," says the Lord God.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Hating those who hate God is justified
Sogga 08/08/2024 13:28
love thy enemy
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your ways just seem unorthodox
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hate should be a last resort
Sogga
hate should be a last resort
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/08/2024 13:30
So would you consider killing a demon as a sin?
Extra-sensory PURRception
So would you consider killing a demon as a sin?
Sogga 08/08/2024 13:31
if it poses a threat to me, then yes
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or wait
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no
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im moronic, i didnt rwad your message
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mb
Extra-sensory PURRception
So would you consider killing a demon as a sin?
Sogga 08/08/2024 13:31
no
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/08/2024 13:32
Okay
Sogga
your ways just seem unorthodox
Мико⚜🐾 08/08/2024 13:35
no, you can hate those who hate God
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Extra-sensory PURRception 08/08/2024 13:36
Use the bot
Мико⚜🐾 08/08/2024 13:36
Psalm 139:19-21 NKJV
BibleBot BOT 08/08/2024 13:36
Psalm 139:19-21 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<19> Oh, that You would slay the wicked, O God! Depart from me, therefore, you bloodthirsty men. <20> For they speak against You wickedly; Your enemies take Your name in vain. <21> Do I not hate them, O Lord, who hate You? And do I not loathe those who rise up against You?
Мико⚜🐾 08/08/2024 13:37
your personal neighbour or personal enemy =/= enemy of God
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but we hate what they do, not the person themselves
Sogga 08/08/2024 13:48
i see
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Мико⚜🐾 08/09/2024 08:42
"no age of consent in the Bible"
Eurocyon 08/09/2024 18:38
https://x.com/Exiled_ToA/status/1821831404772069744 So I found this tweet (edited)
Rena Andou (@Exiled_ToA) on X
>Ad-hominem isn't an argument I beg to differ?
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and was curious what thread was being retweeted
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https://fxtwitter.com/Metagenesis420/status/1821465174701703438
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ExistentialBoi (@Metagenesis420)
@FootistWarrior Who cares if I watch porn? Ad-hominem isn’t an argument.
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when did redditors start using soyjaks
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https://fxtwitter.com/FootistWarrior/status/1821427242590671269
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Foot ✝️ (@FootistWarrior)
>Porn addict who posts his genitals on https://twitter.com tries to educate Christians Quoting ExistentialBoi (@Metagenesis420) @TheConOfMC @kyu_kurariin @VoxArtificialis @LottieBigTiddie “Misinformation” lmfao the only misinformation I hear about the Bible comes from Christians. Heres some of my favorite verses that Christians get triggered...
Мико⚜🐾
"no age of consent in the Bible"
Eurocyon 08/09/2024 18:41
Мико⚜🐾 08/09/2024 18:49
"The phrase ἐὰν ᾖ ὑπέρακμος (ean ē hyperakmos) makes far more sense of the context if it refers to the male’s sexual passions (literally, “over the top”) rather than the female’s sexual development (reaching puberty, or past the flower of her age, for example). It keeps the male as the subject of all the verbs throughout verses 36–38. Winter’s (1998: 88) exhaustive analysis of the usage of the word in literary and nonliterary contexts shows that it is used to mean “full of sexual passion.” Among the many sources cited (Winter 1998: 76), Hesychius, the fifth-century a.d. lexicographer, lists the verb form ὑπερακμάζειν (hyperakmazein) as a synonym for κατοργᾶν (katorgan), which refers to a heightened desire for sexual intercourse. It is synonymous with πυροῦν (pyroun, to burn) in 7:9 (Yarbrough 1985: 106)." Baker Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament: 1 Corinthians by David E. Garland
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1 Corinthians 7:25 KJV
BibleBot BOT 08/09/2024 18:50
1 Corinthians 7:25 - King James Version (KJV)
<25> Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.
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Мико⚜🐾 08/09/2024 18:50
seems to be a mistranslation concerning the KJV (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
"The phrase ἐὰν ᾖ ὑπέρακμος (ean ē hyperakmos) makes far more sense of the context if it refers to the male’s sexual passions (literally, “over the top”) rather than the female’s sexual development (reaching puberty, or past the flower of her age, for example). It keeps the male as the subject of all the verbs throughout verses 36–38. Winter’s (1998: 88) exhaustive analysis of the usage of the word in literary and nonliterary contexts shows that it is used to mean “full of sexual passion.” Among the many sources cited (Winter 1998: 76), Hesychius, the fifth-century a.d. lexicographer, lists the verb form ὑπερακμάζειν (hyperakmazein) as a synonym for κατοργᾶν (katorgan), which refers to a heightened desire for sexual intercourse. It is synonymous with πυροῦν (pyroun, to burn) in 7:9 (Yarbrough 1985: 106)." Baker Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament: 1 Corinthians by David E. Garland
Eurocyon 08/09/2024 18:50
Buddy this is what a scholar said
Мико⚜🐾 08/09/2024 18:51
yes, he appeals to the Greek source text
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are only yall allowed to do that?
Eurocyon 08/09/2024 18:52
No i meant what I posted
Мико⚜🐾 08/09/2024 18:53
yes, that statement "flower of her age" is only present in KJV translations and their derivatives
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its not what the Greek source text actually says
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in fact Paul makes it clear in earlier on in the chapter that he has "no new commandments" regarding women in 7:25
Sogga 08/09/2024 18:56
@Мико⚜🐾 do megachurch "preachers" go to Hell?
Arcane BOT 08/09/2024 18:56
@Sogga has reached level 20. GG!
Мико⚜🐾
in fact Paul makes it clear in earlier on in the chapter that he has "no new commandments" regarding women in 7:25
Eurocyon 08/09/2024 18:56
buddy idc
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The bible made the AOC 12-13
Мико⚜🐾 08/09/2024 18:57
it did not
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this is a fallacious arg based off of an English translation of the original Greek
Мико⚜🐾
this is a fallacious arg based off of an English translation of the original Greek
Eurocyon 08/09/2024 18:58
Who cares about greek
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Hebrew or stfu
Мико⚜🐾 08/09/2024 18:59
if I open up my Russian Bible or my Latin Vulgate the phrase will not be there
Eurocyon
Hebrew or stfu
Мико⚜🐾 08/09/2024 19:00
we can say the same when Muslims appeal to Arabic then or when Jews appeal to the Hebrew this is silly
Мико⚜🐾
we can say the same when Muslims appeal to Arabic then or when Jews appeal to the Hebrew this is silly
Eurocyon 08/09/2024 19:00
The og bible was in hebrew
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and church fathers say that marriage is allowed at the right age of 7
Sogga
@Мико⚜🐾 do megachurch "preachers" go to Hell?
Мико⚜🐾 08/09/2024 19:01
not my place to comment on those who will definitively go to Heaven and Hell, thats Gods decision however, outside of the church i would affirm that there is no normative means of salvation
Eurocyon
and church fathers say that marriage is allowed at the right age of 7
Мико⚜🐾 08/09/2024 19:02
where?
Sogga 08/09/2024 19:02
technically its heresy to preach a prosperity gospel
Мико⚜🐾 08/09/2024 19:02
Also, betrothal agreements and child marriage is different from 'child consummation'
Sogga 08/09/2024 19:02
but i dont make the rules
Sogga
technically its heresy to preach a prosperity gospel
Мико⚜🐾 08/09/2024 19:03
it is, but teaching heresy is different from knowingly being a heretic
Мико⚜🐾
it is, but teaching heresy is different from knowingly being a heretic
Sogga 08/09/2024 19:03
i see
Мико⚜🐾 08/09/2024 19:03
only the latter of which condemns you to Hell definitvely
Eurocyon
The og bible was in hebrew
Мико⚜🐾 08/09/2024 19:05
the Church used the Greek version, translated by the time of Philo, until the Reformers tho
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along with most of the other 2nd temple period Jews, until they switched back to using Hebrew exclusively in the 3rd century and re compiled their own text, the Masoretic (edited)
Eurocyon 08/09/2024 19:06
This is orthodox propaganda
Мико⚜🐾 08/09/2024 19:06
this is not, you can verify all of these statements
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the Septuagint is older than the Masoretic there was a Paleo Hebrew version floating around alongside with it, but thats been lost
Мико⚜🐾 08/10/2024 07:21
https://youtu.be/d2FKSxaa76w
Father Spyridon
FALSE LOVE
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/11/2024 21:09
Trying to pray and Umbriel is climbing all over me
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Trying to pray and Umbriel is climbing all over me
Sogga 08/11/2024 21:09
she wants to pray w you
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/11/2024 21:10
I always have Umbriel in my prayers
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/13/2024 20:31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0oE5ZAdxRM
Nick Jones
Olympics Closing Ceremony Sparks SATANIC Controversy!
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They really do hate Christians huh?
bongvain 08/13/2024 20:31
this is news how
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the world just hates us now
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which is god because its horrifically corrupt
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/13/2024 20:32
The Olymics Closing Ceremony is news, actually.
bongvain 08/13/2024 20:32
i mean the hating christians part
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/13/2024 20:32
I was only just made aware of their closing ceremony.
bongvain 08/13/2024 20:33
im talking about the christian hate not the sloplympics itself but
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i guess they go hand in hand now
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/13/2024 20:33
Think of it like this
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God himself came to earth as a mortal human in Jesus Christ
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To preach the message of salvation
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And the world hated him
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They did everything they could to have him killed
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It checks out.
bongvain 08/13/2024 20:34
>he doesnt let us jerk off and kill ourselves?!?!?! >DESTROY!!!!!!!!
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/13/2024 20:34
Basically.
bongvain 08/13/2024 20:34
not even 2000 years changed niggas one bit
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i mean a bit
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but were still fucked up
Zoraxe 08/13/2024 20:44
There's still hope. After the pandemic, there was an uptick in people turning back to religion. It's easy to forget God when things are going "well"
bongvain 08/13/2024 20:45
always gonna be hope
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just hard to see when the world economic forum pulls the wool over my eyes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/13/2024 20:51
Say Christ is Lord. Not with your lips but with your heart!
Zoraxe 08/13/2024 20:51
Sometimes there's an incentive to hide the "successes" whether it's to blackpill people or even by certain activist groups that simply want to drive more people to action when they don't see others trying to make a difference. Anger drives more to action than contentness might
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/13/2024 20:52
The nuclear family unit has literally been a success for millennia and yet people will cling to scenarios of a bad family unit as evidence that it doesn't work.
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It's mind boggling.
20:53
If it's so le hecking bad then how come it has worked so well for millennia?
Zoraxe 08/13/2024 20:55
As the saying goes: if you have to work to "normalize" something, was it really normal to begin with?
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Мико⚜🐾 08/13/2024 20:57
Daniel 7:9-10
BibleBot BOT 08/13/2024 20:57
Daniel 7:9-10 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<9> I beheld until the thrones were set, and the Ancient of days sat; and his raiment was white as snow, and the hair of his head as pure wool: his throne was a flame of fire, and his wheels burning fire. <10> A stream of fire rushed forth before him: thousand thousands ministered to him, and ten thousands of myriads attended upon him: the judgment sat, and the books were opened.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
If it's so le hecking bad then how come it has worked so well for millennia?
Мико⚜🐾 08/13/2024 20:58
its le hecking bad cause we hate tradition in this house
20:58
gender is a social construct or something
Zoraxe
As the saying goes: if you have to work to "normalize" something, was it really normal to begin with?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/13/2024 20:59
They might use the argument that "okay well slavery was normal back then!" but the thing is, our society NATURALLY sheds things which aren't "normal" perse. There was some meaningful push back against it sure but it naturally dissipated.
Мико⚜🐾 08/13/2024 20:59
the "nuclear family" structure opresses and holds back our women
Мико⚜🐾
the "nuclear family" structure opresses and holds back our women
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/13/2024 21:00
I'm selective about the women I talk to and 100% of them have a desire to be mothers. How fucking curious is that!?
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21:00
Hell even the undesireable women I talk to still want kids. (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
They might use the argument that "okay well slavery was normal back then!" but the thing is, our society NATURALLY sheds things which aren't "normal" perse. There was some meaningful push back against it sure but it naturally dissipated.
Мико⚜🐾 08/13/2024 21:00
the thing is slavery as it might have meant in the ancient context was good
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
They might use the argument that "okay well slavery was normal back then!" but the thing is, our society NATURALLY sheds things which aren't "normal" perse. There was some meaningful push back against it sure but it naturally dissipated.
Zoraxe 08/13/2024 21:01
Slavery only existed because it was enforced by govt. Find an escaped slave? Let him go and get $5, or $10 if you return him. It was incentivized and enforced by authorities and arguably pushed by a few elites onto everyone else.
Мико⚜🐾 08/13/2024 21:01
"slave" is a new term, based off of the nickname "Slav", which the Arabs and Turks gave to the people they kidnapped in the Balkans
Мико⚜🐾
the thing is slavery as it might have meant in the ancient context was good
Мико⚜🐾 08/13/2024 21:02
indentured servitude is way better than prison
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Hell even the undesireable women I talk to still want kids. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/13/2024 21:22
how old is the crowd you work with?
21:23
women almost always end up wanting kids as they get older, i mean its in their nature to want em. childless feminist roasties in their later years are drunk off ssris because they realized Sex and the City sold them a lie (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/14/2024 05:29
Today is the feast day of the 7 holy Maccabean martyrs, their teacher Eleazar and their mother especially. Martyred brutally during the persecution and attempted forced Hellenization of the Jews commanded by Antiochus IV. May they pray for us all. (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0oE5ZAdxRM
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/14/2024 07:16
I'm watching this right now
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/14/2024 07:32
Pretty decent video
Мико⚜🐾
how old is the crowd you work with?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/14/2024 09:03
My range is 21-28
Мико⚜🐾 08/14/2024 09:04
I see then yeah, that makes sense
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/14/2024 09:06
18 might be legal but I'm 30 and have found that the generational gap really shows
09:06
I was seeing a 19yo last year and I realised how horribly out of sync we were.
09:07
So I tend to shoot for 21 in the lowest.
Мико⚜🐾 08/14/2024 17:12
https://vxtwitter.com/ourladyaveri/status/1823769328010842209
Twitter
Our Lady Averi (@ourladyaveri)
@Chad4328 1 1
Мико⚜🐾
https://vxtwitter.com/ourladyaveri/status/1823769328010842209
Мико⚜🐾 08/14/2024 17:13
Contra Nestorius: Why Mary is worthy of the title "Mother of God" (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/16/2024 08:43
Мико⚜🐾 08/16/2024 09:01
St. Basil: Homily on the Problem of Evil
09:02
Мико⚜🐾
St. Basil: Homily on the Problem of Evil
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/16/2024 09:02
What book is this?
09:02
And you aren't black
09:04
Not your pictures, right? (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception
What book is this?
Мико⚜🐾 08/16/2024 09:04
Its in St. Basil's "On the Human Condition" just found the pdf now, didnt think it existed since he said he couldnt find it online (edited)
On_the_Human_Condition_-_PDF_Room.pdf
1.43 MB
Extra-sensory PURRception
Not your pictures, right? (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/16/2024 09:04
nah, its my friend's photos
Мико⚜🐾
nah, its my friend's photos
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/16/2024 09:04
Oh okay
Мико⚜🐾
nah, its my friend's photos
Sogga 08/16/2024 09:38
almost pulled a michael jackson there
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/16/2024 16:06
@Мико⚜🐾 here's a good read
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 here's a good read
ungen 08/16/2024 17:20
Holy pixels batman
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/16/2024 17:21
You click on the image
17:21
Then you click on "open in browser"
17:21
Then you click on the image again and it zooms in
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Then you click on "open in browser"
ungen 08/16/2024 17:21
Thanks I completely forgot about Discord's built-in Negrotech Script Translator, this is how it looked without it
Sogga 08/16/2024 17:23
uncle sky is either trolling you or owns a fucking 4090
Мико⚜🐾 08/16/2024 17:24
or you can download vencord
17:25
and stop being a nigga
Мико⚜🐾
and stop being a nigga
Sogga 08/16/2024 17:26
vex cant pull a michael jackson anymore, he sold his soul to the jewish businessman
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 here's a good read
Мико⚜🐾 08/16/2024 17:26
Hopefully OP did what he had to do
Sogga
vex cant pull a michael jackson anymore, he sold his soul to the jewish businessman
Мико⚜🐾 08/16/2024 17:27
at least hes finally good at art now
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/16/2024 20:00
Mark 8:34
BibleBot BOT 08/16/2024 20:00
Mark 8:34 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<34> And he called to him the multitude with his disciples, and said to them, "If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/16/2024 20:00
I am struggling to properly adhere to this passage.
20:00
I know the material is temporary and the spirit is eternal and that the wants of the flesh and spirit are opposites.
20:01
But, man, completely transforming yourself ain't easy.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
But, man, completely transforming yourself ain't easy.
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/16/2024 20:02
You'll get there, as long as you try it's just a matter of time
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/18/2024 05:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrTV8F7rNZE
Off The Kirb Ministries
They Just Banned Church and I Expect God Will Send Judgement
Мико⚜🐾 08/18/2024 06:51
In Genesis 14, Abraham saves his brother Lot from captivity during a battle that had started between the Canaanite kings. (Genesis 14:12-17 ELXX) After this, Melchizedek, the mysterious King of Salem and priest of “the Most High God”, brings out bread and wine (v18). This clearly mirrors the Eucharist and the Last Supper (Matthew 26:17-30 DRA) and the writers of the New Testament, like Paul, catch onto this in their epistles. The Son of God is also said to be in the priesthood of Melchizedek, which will last forever (before and after the Levitical priesthood) as we can find in scripture (Psalm 110:1-4, Matthew 22:39-45 DRA, Hebrews 7:1-3 DRA), which is something else to note. He then blesses Abraham and he (Abraham) gives him a tithe of the spoils he won from his efforts to save Lot (v19-21). Paul gives an explanation for this event in Genesis in the 7th chapter of Hebrews. He describes Melchizedek as being “greater” than Abraham (v4) , reminds the reader that it is a “contradiction” for the lesser to bless the greater (v7), and declares explicitly that his genealogy is “not derived” from Abraham (v6). He finally writes (in v9) that even Levi, who “receives tithes”, paid tithe to Melchizedek through Abraham in a sense. Since he was still in his father’s (Abraham’s) loin (v10). After this, (in v11-19) he in his exegesis once again affirms the eternality of Melchizedek’s priesthood, and that perfection came not through Aaron’s but Melchizdek and his order (v11-17). These verses leave several issues for the Black Hebrew Israelite position. How can Melchizedek, a non-Jew, have a superior and eternal priesthood, while Aaron, an Israelite, has a limited and temporary priesthood? How can he even have any sense of authority over a Jew as a non-Jew, if he was created to be damned and be the bondservant of the Jew? How can perfection come from a Gentile (one in every sense) and his priesthood, if he is not a true African Israeli? Is Paul wrong in saying that Melchizedek is greater than Abraham, the father of all Jews, and that Levi through Abraham even paid tithe to him? The intellectually honest position after being presented with this argument and rhetoric would be to deny the BHI position.
Мико⚜🐾
In Genesis 14, Abraham saves his brother Lot from captivity during a battle that had started between the Canaanite kings. (Genesis 14:12-17 ELXX) After this, Melchizedek, the mysterious King of Salem and priest of “the Most High God”, brings out bread and wine (v18). This clearly mirrors the Eucharist and the Last Supper (Matthew 26:17-30 DRA) and the writers of the New Testament, like Paul, catch onto this in their epistles. The Son of God is also said to be in the priesthood of Melchizedek, which will last forever (before and after the Levitical priesthood) as we can find in scripture (Psalm 110:1-4, Matthew 22:39-45 DRA, Hebrews 7:1-3 DRA), which is something else to note. He then blesses Abraham and he (Abraham) gives him a tithe of the spoils he won from his efforts to save Lot (v19-21). Paul gives an explanation for this event in Genesis in the 7th chapter of Hebrews. He describes Melchizedek as being “greater” than Abraham (v4) , reminds the reader that it is a “contradiction” for the lesser to bless the greater (v7), and declares explicitly that his genealogy is “not derived” from Abraham (v6). He finally writes (in v9) that even Levi, who “receives tithes”, paid tithe to Melchizedek through Abraham in a sense. Since he was still in his father’s (Abraham’s) loin (v10). After this, (in v11-19) he in his exegesis once again affirms the eternality of Melchizedek’s priesthood, and that perfection came not through Aaron’s but Melchizdek and his order (v11-17). These verses leave several issues for the Black Hebrew Israelite position. How can Melchizedek, a non-Jew, have a superior and eternal priesthood, while Aaron, an Israelite, has a limited and temporary priesthood? How can he even have any sense of authority over a Jew as a non-Jew, if he was created to be damned and be the bondservant of the Jew? How can perfection come from a Gentile (one in every sense) and his priesthood, if he is not a true African Israeli? Is Paul wrong in saying that Melchizedek is greater than Abraham, the father of all Jews, and that Levi through Abraham even paid tithe to him? The intellectually honest position after being presented with this argument and rhetoric would be to deny the BHI position.
Мико⚜🐾 08/18/2024 06:51
argument against Black Hebrew Israelites
BibleBot BOT 08/18/2024 06:51
Matthew 26:17-30 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<17> And on the first day of the Azymes, the disciples came to Jesus, saying: Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the pasch? <18> But Jesus said: Go ye into the city to a certain man, and say to him: the master saith, My time is near at hand, with thee I make the pasch with my disciples. <19> And the disciples did as Jesus appointed to them, and they prepared the pasch. <20> But when it was evening, he sat down with his twelve disciples. <21> And whilst they were eating, he said: Amen I say to you, that one of you is about to betray me. <22> And they being very much troubled, began every one to say: Is it I, Lord? <23> But he answering, said: He that dippeth his hand with me in the dish, he shall betray me. <24> The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man shall be betrayed: it were better for him, if that man had not been born. <25> And Judas that betrayed him, answering, said: Is it I, Rabbi? He saith to him: Thou hast said it. <26> And whilst they were at supper, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke: and gave to his disciples, and said: Take ye, and eat. This is my body. <27> And taking the chalice, he gave thanks, and gave to them, saying: Drink ye all of this. <28> For this is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many unto remission of sins. <29> And I say to you, I will not drink from henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I shall drink it with you new in the kingdom of my Father. <30> And a hymn being said, they went out unto mount Olivet.
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Matthew 22:39-45 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<39> And the second is like to this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. <40> On these two commandments dependeth the whole law and the prophets. <41> And the Pharisees being gathered together, Jesus asked them, <42> Saying: What think you of Christ? whose son is he? They say to him: David's. <43> He saith to them: How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying: <44> The Lord said to my Lord, Sit on my right hand, until I make thy enemies thy footstool? <45> If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
06:51
Hebrews 7:1-3 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<1> For this Melchisedech was king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him: <2> To whom also Abraham divided the tithes of all: who first indeed by interpretation, is king of justice: and then also king of Salem, that is, king of peace: <3> Without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but likened unto the Son of God, continueth a priest for ever.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/18/2024 10:49
@Мико⚜🐾 wasn't Yahshua Jesus' true name?
Eurocyon 08/18/2024 10:50
this is true
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 wasn't Yahshua Jesus' true name?
Мико⚜🐾 08/18/2024 10:52
its just His name in Hebrew His name in Aramaic, another language He is known to have spoke is "Isho" (edited)
10:53
The name "Jesus" comes from the Latin transliteration from the Greek i believe (edited)
Sogga 08/18/2024 11:34
@Мико⚜🐾 do you think Jesus' name will change again in a thousand years from now
Sogga
@Мико⚜🐾 do you think Jesus' name will change again in a thousand years from now
Мико⚜🐾 08/18/2024 11:46
if English is no longer the lingua franca it may well happen
Мико⚜🐾
if English is no longer the lingua franca it may well happen
Sogga 08/18/2024 11:46
i predict he'd be called Ysus
11:46
english language keeps getting short
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/18/2024 11:58
https://youtu.be/RA48BtLyEOc?si=FeOxkW54yJoDEU-3
Wise Disciple
Voddie: Don't Miss The GAME Being Played On US! | Pastor Reacts
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11:59
Amen don't lose your focus brothers
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/18/2024 14:41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kuqSEgEpy8
PatristicNectarFilms
The Sign of the CROSS
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/18/2024 21:25
Leviticus 20:13
BibleBot BOT 08/18/2024 21:25
Leviticus 20:13 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<13> If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/18/2024 21:25
Leviticus 18:22
BibleBot BOT 08/18/2024 21:25
Leviticus 18:22 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<22> You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Leviticus 20:13
Sogga 08/18/2024 21:29
le gays bad because le bible verse said so
Sogga
le gays bad because le bible verse said so
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/18/2024 21:29
Yes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Yes
Sogga 08/18/2024 21:30
what do you think of elton john
Sogga
le gays bad because le bible verse said so
serpente482 08/18/2024 22:54
Le gays bad because they are fetishists who devolved due to toxic environment or straight up trauma and now (((they))) want to make that environment mainstream so many more people can fall into the claws of hedonism and its inmeddiate effects of loneliness, emptiness and lack of individuality
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1
22:55
Sogga and eurocyon when its time to defend the gayyys!
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Мико⚜🐾 08/19/2024 08:33
Today is the feast day of the Transfiguration at Mt. Tabor. We hold this feast in my church to commemorate the day in which Jesus revealed the uncreated light, a piece of His full glory, and called down the prophets Moses and Elijah from Heaven to the witness of His 3 disciples Peter, James and John.
08:33
I pray that we can too witness this light in this life or the next one Matthew 17:1-9 NKJV
BibleBot BOT 08/19/2024 08:33
Matthew 17:1-9 - New King James Version (NKJV)
Jesus Transfigured on the Mount
<1> Now after six days Jesus took Peter, James, and John his brother, led them up on a high mountain by themselves; <2> and He was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became as white as the light. <3> And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him. <4> Then Peter answered and said to Jesus, "Lord, it is good for us to be here; if You wish, let us make here three tabernacles: one for You, one for Moses, and one for Elijah." <5> While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of the cloud, saying, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!" <6> And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their faces and were greatly afraid. <7> But Jesus came and touched them and said, "Arise, and do not be afraid." <8> When they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no one but Jesus only. <9> Now as they came down from the mountain, Jesus commanded them, saying, "Tell the vision to no one until the Son of Man is risen from the dead."
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/19/2024 18:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcYb_5dzQyI
Wise Disciple
Christianity DEFEATED in 10 Seconds?! | Pastor Reacts
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/19/2024 18:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrPYlt_XvnM
Wise Disciple
Christians, you look like the world when you do this...
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18:28
@Мико⚜🐾 worth a watch brother.
Мико⚜🐾 08/19/2024 18:31
will watch it in a minute
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 05:35
https://en.jerusalem-patriarchate.info/blog/2024/08/16/statement-by-the-jerusalem-patriarchate-on-israels-impediments-to-freedom-of-worship/
hibaeliehrimat
STATEMENT BY THE JERUSALEM PATRIARCHATE ON ISRAEL’S IMPEDIMENTS TO ...
The recent decision by the Israeli Police to ban Christian worshippers from participating in the sacred services of the Feast of the Transfiguration on Mount Tabor, citing the absence of requisite government approvals and licenses, has led to the regrettable closure of this holy site to thousands of
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/20/2024 06:37
And this is why despite being the lesser of two evils I still can't support Israel
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 06:40
definitely not
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/20/2024 10:38
Proverbs 4:18-19 RSVCE
BibleBot BOT 08/20/2024 10:38
Proverbs 4:18-19 - Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
<18> But the path of the righteous is like the light of dawn, which shines brighter and brighter until full day. <19> The way of the wicked is like deep darkness; they do not know over what they stumble.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
And this is why despite being the lesser of two evils I still can't support Israel
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 11:17
lesser? Isreal is lesser? Kys
11:18
Aparthied south afirca blushes at Isreal's racial laws and ethnic cleansings
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/20/2024 11:18
I said lesser evil. It's still evil.
11:18
But the alternative is a terrorist organisation that actively uses its citizens as fodder and shields.
11:19
Including children.
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 11:22
also keep in mind that the majority of Israelis do not support Bibi
11:23
while the majority of Palestinians are proud Hamas supporters, and hailed them defacto leader and representative in the early 2000s
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
But the alternative is a terrorist organisation that actively uses its citizens as fodder and shields.
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 11:27
Palestine isn't a terrorist org listen to yourself
11:27
HAMAS is
11:28
I feel like I have said this before
Eurocyon
HAMAS is
Sogga 08/20/2024 11:28
Eurocyon
Palestine isn't a terrorist org listen to yourself
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/20/2024 11:28
I didn't call Palestine terrorists. I said "terrorist organisation" not "terrorist state".
11:28
Reading comprehension.
Sogga 08/20/2024 11:28
@Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian he's 17, he is still learning
Мико⚜🐾
while the majority of Palestinians are proud Hamas supporters, and hailed them defacto leader and representative in the early 2000s
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 11:28
I mean all the arabs I have met despise isreal for many reasons, so ofc they will support the guys mercing jews
Sogga 08/20/2024 11:29
oy vey
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/20/2024 11:29
But also know that said terrorist group now runs the show in Palestine.
Sogga 08/20/2024 11:29
free palpatine or whatever
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I didn't call Palestine terrorists. I said "terrorist organisation" not "terrorist state".
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 11:29
No I am saying you say that LIKE palestine is the terrorist org, you can support palestine without supporting hamas
Sogga 08/20/2024 11:29
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
But also know that said terrorist group now runs the show in Palestine.
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 11:29
cool, let more jews die
Sogga 08/20/2024 11:30
both sides are fighting a pointless war
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/20/2024 11:30
My favourite part about the Israel Palestine conflict is it makes leftiest question why Israel is bad. They're so close to being redpilled. (edited)
Sogga 08/20/2024 11:30
and the UN is doing nothing bout it
11:30
israel x palestine countryhumans ship art
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
My favourite part about the Israel Palestine conflict is it makes leftiest question why Israel is bad. They're so close to being redpilled. (edited)
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 11:36
Apperently the flavour of evangellical the US government rhinks that giving the jews their holy land will trigger rapture
11:37
though these claims are from a Mao style communist tranny
11:37
take them lightly
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
My favourite part about the Israel Palestine conflict is it makes leftiest question why Israel is bad. They're so close to being redpilled. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 11:39
political shoehorn theory
11:40
Marx was a communist and half Jewish... and he hated Jews
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 11:43
Because someone has a jewish background doesnt mean they are a jew, judaism isnt a race its a faith
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 11:53
simply untrue, judaism is an ethnoreligion. you can call yourself a 'Jew' and receive the same benefits even as a secularized Jew economically and socially (heter ishka loans, feign anti-Semitism) (edited)
11:53
until you become either Christian or Muslim, after that youre disowned
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/20/2024 12:02
Jews: "You cannot become a Jew, you have to have been born one. You can never be apart of God's kingdom" Muslims: "You can become a Muslim but you must submit and you will need to eventually arabize yourself because we do not believe in translated versions of our scripture" Christians: "No matter who you are or where you come from, you can join the faith and be apart of God's kingdom"
12:03
Religions are fundamentally exclusive yet Christianity is far more open to anyone than any other religion.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Jews: "You cannot become a Jew, you have to have been born one. You can never be apart of God's kingdom" Muslims: "You can become a Muslim but you must submit and you will need to eventually arabize yourself because we do not believe in translated versions of our scripture" Christians: "No matter who you are or where you come from, you can join the faith and be apart of God's kingdom"
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 12:39
"you will need to eventually arabize yourself because we do not believe in translated versions of our scripture" this is incorrect
12:39
See Bosnia, Russia, Albania, Turkiye, Azebjian
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 12:40
Ive had many Muslims tell me the English translation of the Qur'an is not the Qur'an dude. you must learn Arabic, because that is the only divine language or whatever (edited)
12:40
Online and in real-life debate
Мико⚜🐾
Ive had many Muslims tell me the English translation of the Qur'an is not the Qur'an dude. you must learn Arabic, because that is the only divine language or whatever (edited)
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 12:40
they are incorrect, the reason why this belief spreads, and has grounds to stand on is because how hard it is to translate arabic to english
12:42
For example alotta the time you will see "we" in the quran, you might ask "who is we?" the "we" is the prophets referring to themselves. It's extremely formal, and is similar to how royals refer to themselves
Eurocyon
they are incorrect, the reason why this belief spreads, and has grounds to stand on is because how hard it is to translate arabic to english
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 12:43
So the Muslim consensus is incorrect and you are right?
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 12:43
No
Sogga 08/20/2024 12:43
holy shit
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 12:43
it is a understandable belief to have
12:43
I just think personally differently
12:44
I think going into a translation of the quran knowing the translation barrier exists purifies it, and legitimising it
Мико⚜🐾
So the Muslim consensus is incorrect and you are right?
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 12:46
you are aware that the first translation in English created by a Muslim was in 1910? and that they did not create any Latin or Greek translations? the stance Islam has held regarding the matter is clear. you must learn Arabic because the was the language it was revealed in (edited)
12:46
all the translation efforts, apart from the Persian translation that comes to mind, were done by non-Muslims. and Christian clergy in nearly every case, in order to better understand Islam or develop arguments against it (edited)
Eurocyon
I just think personally differently
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 12:47
then youre not necessarily kuffar or anything, youre just in disagreement with what is the consensus
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 12:48
ofc
12:49
Hell in Al Andulus they had castellian and andulusia translations of the quran
Eurocyon
"you will need to eventually arabize yourself because we do not believe in translated versions of our scripture" this is incorrect
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 12:50
You also won't need to become an arab to be muslim this was the silliest claim (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 12:55
the South Asians, especially the migrants from South Asia, beg the Arab ting
12:56
thobes, saudi headress and sandals in freezing cold weather
12:57
and what for?
Sogga 08/20/2024 12:57
you need to hang up that discord convo, come over here and kiss me on my hot mouth
12:57
im feeling romantical
Sogga
you need to hang up that discord convo, come over here and kiss me on my hot mouth
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/20/2024 12:58
Behave yourself
Eurocyon
Hell in Al Andulus they had castellian and andulusia translations of the quran
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 12:58
thats true, but who created those scripts?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Behave yourself
Sogga 08/20/2024 12:58
i cannot supress my urges, sorry
Мико⚜🐾
the South Asians, especially the migrants from South Asia, beg the Arab ting
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 13:03
They dont have to
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13:04
no requirement to
13:05
@Deleted User Do they force you to wear a Saudi head covering?
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Eurocyon
@Deleted User Do they force you to wear a Saudi head covering?
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Eurocyon 08/20/2024 14:20
didn't think so
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 14:53
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13758359/scientists-discovery-jesus-cloth-buried-shroud-turin.html
Scientists make new discovery in cloth 'Jesus was buried in'
Scientists recently took another look at the Shroud of Turin with hopes of placing it in the time of Jesus. They found the linin could be older than the Middle Ages as suggested from another study.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/20/2024 21:03
https://x.com/calvinrobinson/status/1825556364699296089
Fr Calvin Robinson (@calvinrobinson) on X
Yes. I did say that.
21:03
Stay true to what you say. Based Calvin Robinson.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/20/2024 21:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIqD0wS2lqQ
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Why this is the PERFECT speech...
Мико⚜🐾
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13758359/scientists-discovery-jesus-cloth-buried-shroud-turin.html
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:09
now dated to around the time of the death of Christ
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:19
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:20
Theres not multiple Bibles, there is one Bible
22:20
Protestants just have an incomplete one, thats what i would say on the matter (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Protestants just have an incomplete one, thats what i would say on the matter (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:21
and even then this is only some of them
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:24
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:26
What is he talking about when he says "Thomist" and "Apostle's Creed"
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:26
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:26
there are 2 nicene creeds. One without the filioque cause and one with it
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Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:26
Yeah, it does change their understanding of God
22:27
what is this guys religion?
Мико⚜🐾
what is this guys religion?
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:27
Muslim
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Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:27
whats the context surrounding this conversation?
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:28
Мико⚜🐾
there are 2 nicene creeds. One without the filioque cause and one with it
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:28
there is no "Thomist" creed, hes talking about Thomism
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Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:29
what is his standard for "corrupted"
Мико⚜🐾
what is his standard for "corrupted"
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:29
the general muslim narative
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:29
if he means letter for letter dot for dot preservation, which he cannot prove himself
22:29
then ofc we dont claim that. but we have a different standard of what it means for a text to be corrupted
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Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:30
any comment on anything else here
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:30
"corruption" in our eyes is the distortion of the story, one that changes the theology or narrative (edited)
22:30
his retarded one is a single textual variant
Eurocyon
any comment on anything else here
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:31
its not my place to comment on anyones salvation, besides he believes the same
22:31
the Qur'an is very clear about the fate of those who willingly disbelieve
Мико⚜🐾
then ofc we dont claim that. but we have a different standard of what it means for a text to be corrupted
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:33
we dont hold to the Bible being the uncreated and eternal word of God, its merely divinely inspired, created scripture with a dual authorship of sorts (edited)
22:33
the Holy Spirit illuminated the different authors of the texts throughout the years (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
we dont hold to the Bible being the uncreated and eternal word of God, its merely divinely inspired, created scripture with a dual authorship of sorts (edited)
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:34
VFD said only christians enter heaven
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:36
Hes right, only Christians normatively go to Heaven
22:36
we're not universalists
Мико⚜🐾
Hes right, only Christians normatively go to Heaven
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:36
then you know who goes to heaven
22:37
also why do I get mixe anwser about this
22:37
why is it that some caths say nonchritsians can goto heaven whilst some others dont
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:37
because people are misinformed on who is saved and who is not. different sects have different beliefs
22:38
some people are ignorant, others like to lie to themselves about these things
Eurocyon
why is it that some caths say nonchritsians can goto heaven whilst some others dont
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:38
The RCC teaches that there is no salvation outside of the church
22:38
so they either dont know or ignore the church teaching
Мико⚜🐾
The RCC teaches that there is no salvation outside of the church
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:39
how would you feel if judaism was the true faith
Eurocyon
then you know who goes to heaven
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:40
well not really, because being a baptised Christian will not save you in and of itself. We also cant definitively say everyone physically outside of the church is damned, but most definitely are (edited)
Eurocyon
how would you feel if judaism was the true faith
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:40
Judaism cant be the true faith because it innovated
22:40
and is no longer anything that resembles the Torah
Мико⚜🐾
Judaism cant be the true faith because it innovated
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:40
how would you feel though
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:41
their own scripture also declares the divinity of the Messiah
Eurocyon
how would you feel though
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:41
there would be no way to feel, because theres no reality in which Rabbinical Judaism could be true
Мико⚜🐾
Judaism cant be the true faith because it innovated
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:41
then that'd mean only islam or christiandom is the true faith
22:44
How do you confort yourself know the people not of your faith goto hell, how do you feel knowing your good friends goto hell @Мико⚜🐾
Eurocyon
then that'd mean only islam or christiandom is the true faith
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:45
well yeah. and you already know which one i think has the stronger case
Мико⚜🐾
well yeah. and you already know which one i think has the stronger case
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:45
anwser the other question
22:45
because only a pychopath says he doesn't cry
Eurocyon
because only a pychopath says he doesn't cry
Sogga 08/20/2024 22:46
are you trying to paint mikko as a psychopath
Sogga
are you trying to paint mikko as a psychopath
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:46
no
Sogga 08/20/2024 22:46
clearly you just had to ask such a deep question for him to answer
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:46
I wanna learn how to cope
Sogga 08/20/2024 22:47
i see
Eurocyon
How do you confort yourself know the people not of your faith goto hell, how do you feel knowing your good friends goto hell @Мико⚜🐾
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:50
well, ive already come to terms with it long ago so its not something that bothers me often. all I can do is pray for them and hope for their salvation and God's mercy to be shown to them when theyre judged. some have also been saved through intercession, as many saints have reported or have witnessed through vision. so i make sure to remember them as often as i can (edited)
22:51
keep in mind that in the correct Christian view, Heaven now is a foretaste of the new Heaven and new Earth we will experience in the Eschaton. Meanwhile Hell is a foretaste of the lake of fire. neither are eternal locations at least not yet (edited)
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:51
what
22:51
niether are eternal
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:52
has no one told you that Hell and Heaven, at least right now, arent eternal in Christianity?
Мико⚜🐾
has no one told you that Hell and Heaven, at least right now, arent eternal in Christianity?
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:52
no
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:52
well, the more you know then
Мико⚜🐾
well, the more you know then
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:53
elaborate what that means
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:54
When I say that Hell and Heaven arent eternal, I mean to say that they are created and will be replaced in the future
Мико⚜🐾
When I say that Hell and Heaven arent eternal, I mean to say that they are created and will be replaced in the future
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 22:54
replaced by what
Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:54
by a "new Heaven and new Earth", and the "lake of Fire"
22:55
Heaven after the day of Judgement will be Earth like at the Garden of Eden essentially, but more blissful because we will be in greater union with God than Adam and Eve were (edited)
22:57
whereas the new Hell after the day of Judgement will be the lake of Fire. Eternal punishment, however some people will be punished more than others (edited)
22:58
Matthew 24:35 NKJV Isaiah 65:17 Revelation 20:14-15 NKJV
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Matthew 24:35 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<35> Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.
22:58
Isaiah 65:17 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<17> For there shall be a new heaven and a new earth: and they shall not at all remember the former, neither shall they at all come into their mind.
22:58
Revelation 20:14-15 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<14> Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. <15> And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
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Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2024 22:59
the term "second death" is how we can be sure this interpretation is correct (edited)
Eurocyon 08/20/2024 23:03
hm
Eurocyon 08/21/2024 15:05
https://fxtwitter.com/Zorro_de_Euro/status/1826274378621059124
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Euro (@Zorro_de_Euro)
@LIMEF0X can we not keep with this bit, something something duetromony, a man shant dress like a women,something something
15:05
alright christ bros
15:06
attack this man tell him to stop with the maid dress 2x too many
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Leviticus 18:22
Europa 08/21/2024 15:35
1 Corinthians 6:9
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1 Corinthians 6:9 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<9> Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,
Europa
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Europa 08/21/2024 15:38
1 Timothy 2:1 AKJV
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1 Timothy 2:1 - Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
<1> I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
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Europa 08/21/2024 15:38
>intercessions
Мико⚜🐾 08/21/2024 15:40
Tobit 12:12-15
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Tobit 12:12-15 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<12> Now therefore, when thou didst pray, and Sarah thy daughter-in-law, I did bring the remembrance of your prayers before the Holy One: and when thou didst bury the dead, I was with thee likewise. <13> And when thou didst not delay to rise up, and leave thy dinner, to go and cover the dead, thy good deed was not hidden from me: but I was with thee. <14> And now God hath sent me to heal thee and Sarah thy daughter-in-law. <15> I am Raphael, one of the seven holy angels, which present the prayers of the saints, and which go in and out before the glory of the Holy One.
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Eurocyon
attack this man tell him to stop with the maid dress 2x too many
bongvain 08/21/2024 19:42
we good hes gonna burn in hell
Мико⚜🐾 08/21/2024 20:02
reprobate behaviour
20:04
Romans 1:18-23 NKJV
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God's Wrath on Unrighteousness
<18> For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, <19> because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. <20> For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, <21> because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. <22> Professing to be wise, they became fools, <23> and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
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Romans 1:24-27 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<24> Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, <25> who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. <26> For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. <27> Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/22/2024 21:31
When I was in Germany visiting recently, I remember waking up one night and as I was waking up I heard the voice of God, loud like a trumpet say "when you find your cross you will find the Holy Spirit". I have been praying on what my "cross" is for a while and I seem to be coming up empty handed. If any of you guys could weigh in with your thoughts that's be great.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
When I was in Germany visiting recently, I remember waking up one night and as I was waking up I heard the voice of God, loud like a trumpet say "when you find your cross you will find the Holy Spirit". I have been praying on what my "cross" is for a while and I seem to be coming up empty handed. If any of you guys could weigh in with your thoughts that's be great.
Sogga 08/22/2024 21:36
i interpret this as you being a martyr via a cross
21:36
all jokes aside, i dont know
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
When I was in Germany visiting recently, I remember waking up one night and as I was waking up I heard the voice of God, loud like a trumpet say "when you find your cross you will find the Holy Spirit". I have been praying on what my "cross" is for a while and I seem to be coming up empty handed. If any of you guys could weigh in with your thoughts that's be great.
Мико⚜🐾 08/22/2024 21:48
Matthew 16:24-26 NKJV
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Matthew 16:24-26 - New King James Version (NKJV)
Take Up the Cross and Follow Him
<24> Then Jesus said to His disciples, "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. <25> For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. <26> For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?
Мико⚜🐾
Matthew 16:24-26 NKJV
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/22/2024 22:01
Then how do I deny myself brother?
22:01
How do I walk one-to-one with Christ's footsteps?
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Мико⚜🐾 08/22/2024 22:21
Your cross is what is asked of us to deny in this world, in order to follow Christ
22:22
it can also mean to accept or attempt to accept without complaint whatever occurs in life
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Then how do I deny myself brother?
Мико⚜🐾 08/22/2024 22:24
depends on which passion youre struggling with
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
How do I walk one-to-one with Christ's footsteps?
Мико⚜🐾 08/22/2024 22:25
its impossible to, none of us can be perfect. But we can at least truly try to be icons of Christ, and admit our shortcomings
_wf 08/23/2024 05:18
Matthew 10:34 ESV "I have not come to bring peace, but a sword"
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Matthew 10:34 - English Standard Version (ESV)
Not Peace, but a Sword
<34> "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
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Мико⚜🐾 08/23/2024 05:23
Psalm 138:19-22
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Psalms 138:19-22 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<19> Oh that thou wouldest slay the wicked, O God; Depart from me, ye men of blood. <20> For thou wilt say concerning their thought, That they shall take thy cities in vain. <21> Have I not hated them, O Lord, that hate thee? And wasted away because of thine enemies? <22> I have hated them with perfect hatred; They were counted my enemies.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/23/2024 11:25
So a colleague mine uses the super duper high IQ Ricky Gervais take of "If there are le 3000 Gods how is your le God the real one??? Check mate theists" and I have a pretty easy answer to that.
11:28
Islam, Judaism, Christianity. All of them have a origin point around Abraham and his story. And all of them tell a near perfectly identical story to one another with small variations here and there (which is to be expected from multiple people giving multiple testimonies). And Abraham's story is mostly to do with him bringing God back to the people. Three religions out of all the different religions in the world have the exact same origin point of a Man following a God's word. From that alone we can deduce that there is a good chance that one of these three religions is the true one and that Yahweh is likely the real one.
Мико⚜🐾 08/23/2024 11:34
i would just say that after establishing that the existence of a God is a necessary truth to proclaim in order for existence to not fall into complete absurdity, i came to the conclusion of 'monotheism' and then Christianity through logic and deductive reasoning, and divine revelation to pull the rest of the weight (edited)
11:36
Greek philosophers have already laid out the basics of what God must be. and nearly every religion doesnt meet this
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/23/2024 11:37
The specific question is "how do you know your God is the real one" and to that end I say "these three religions are all tied at the exact same point and all three of these religions have the same God, with each one having different interpretations of him. Therefore based on the fact these are the only three religions sharing the same God, I can conclude that there is a high chance this God is the real God."
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Мико⚜🐾
Greek philosophers have already laid out the basics of what God must be. and nearly every religion doesnt meet this
Мико⚜🐾 08/23/2024 11:37
including the beliefs that they themselves professed. Platonism, Stoicism, they all have holes in them. we dont accept all of their ideas about the world (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
The specific question is "how do you know your God is the real one" and to that end I say "these three religions are all tied at the exact same point and all three of these religions have the same God, with each one having different interpretations of him. Therefore based on the fact these are the only three religions sharing the same God, I can conclude that there is a high chance this God is the real God."
Мико⚜🐾 08/23/2024 11:39
God has to be omnibenevolent as well. So He would make Himself known implicitly or explicitly to His creation
11:39
Not to one rando in some Indian hut
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/23/2024 11:46
Also I am going to try tuning out of politics and replacing it with spirituality.
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Мико⚜🐾 08/23/2024 11:47
thats a good idea. dont become oblivious or ignorant to the world around you, but dont let it become your world either
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/23/2024 11:47
Seeing the evils of the world and being reminded of them hurts more than it should. Therefore it makes more sense to focus my time spent on politics with theism instead. Because the world hates God, after all. It then makes sense that it would be better to focus on God rather than the world that hates God.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/24/2024 19:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKZxZPKmQ4I
Mike (Joyful Exile)
Why Everyone is Converting to Christianity
Мико⚜🐾 08/24/2024 19:23
https://youtu.be/g2r1TGAdJ0Y
Adoration of the Cross
Old Slavic Orthodox Chant: Ps140. Да исправится mолитва моя/ Let m...
bongvain 08/25/2024 01:13
@Мико⚜🐾 why do the wordly farm hatred like a crop
bongvain
@Мико⚜🐾 why do the wordly farm hatred like a crop
Мико⚜🐾 08/25/2024 06:51
To the carnal person it is good to hate and is foolish to love. Not to mention that hate makes the world a lot less complex, more black and white, right?
06:52
People want an easy answer to all of their solutions. Hate is one of them
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/25/2024 14:35
Matthew 22:37-40
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Matthew 22:37-40 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<37> And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. <38> This is the great and first commandment. <39> And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. <40> On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets."
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/25/2024 14:35
@Мико⚜🐾 this is my new fav part of scripture. I like it because it re-grounds me back in the most fundamental of fundamental teachings from Jesus.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/25/2024 14:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTpemNV9qRg This man is the epitome of the wolf in sheeps clothing that Jesus warned us about
Wise Disciple
Jesus Was GAY! The Gospel Is GROTESQUE! | #Woketiktok | Pastor Reacts
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTpemNV9qRg This man is the epitome of the wolf in sheeps clothing that Jesus warned us about
Sogga 08/25/2024 14:54
what if he meant gay as in happy
14:54
also, just dont feed them attention, they bait people like you for this
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/25/2024 14:55
I'm more interested in this guy's response to the blasphemous "pastor"
Sogga 08/25/2024 14:56
lord have mercy on them, for they know not what they do
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 this is my new fav part of scripture. I like it because it re-grounds me back in the most fundamental of fundamental teachings from Jesus.
Мико⚜🐾 08/25/2024 16:33
yeah, its a great passage i love going to
16:34
Jesus isnt teaching a New Testament in a sense, Hes merely restoring and fulfilling God's law to what it always was intended to be. its not something new but is truly grounded in what came before it (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
People want an easy answer to all of their solutions. Hate is one of them
bongvain 08/25/2024 16:43
as much as we hate corner cutting it still happens, spiritaully and everywhere else
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Мико⚜🐾 08/25/2024 18:27
me and my boys got a Muslim to recite the Nicene Creed lets go!
18:29
Luke 15:10 NKJV
BibleBot BOT 08/25/2024 18:29
Luke 15:10 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<10> Likewise, I say to you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents."
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/25/2024 20:20
@Мико⚜🐾 asked my pastor for his opinion on the "your cross" question I asked the other day. His response was willingly taking and accepting your burdens In relation to your faith. So things like fighting temptations, being more Christ like, enduring the ridicule from being a Christian etc
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 asked my pastor for his opinion on the "your cross" question I asked the other day. His response was willingly taking and accepting your burdens In relation to your faith. So things like fighting temptations, being more Christ like, enduring the ridicule from being a Christian etc
Мико⚜🐾 08/25/2024 20:35
yeah, this is right
20:36
its what i said, but with a bit more nuance. you got a decent pastor there
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/25/2024 20:42
This also checks out
20:43
Because I prayed for "more of the holy spirit" which is when I heard the voice of God say "when you find your cross you'll find the holy spirit". If I am acting more Christ-like and being a better Christian, I will naturally empower that spirit within me.
Мико⚜🐾
its what i said, but with a bit more nuance. you got a decent pastor there
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/25/2024 20:44
He's a really nice guy. When I first introduced myself he said he knew me. Turns out he gave a speech at my Dad's funeral
20:50
By the way @Мико⚜🐾 do you know what the Greek and/or Latin texts use when refering to homosexuals in the bible?
20:50
I want to know what specific words they use in reference to same-sex attraction so I can back up the NIV use of the word "homosexual"
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
By the way @Мико⚜🐾 do you know what the Greek and/or Latin texts use when refering to homosexuals in the bible?
Мико⚜🐾 08/25/2024 20:53
i think the specific word is "arsenokoitai" which roughly translates to man-bedder
20:53
you have liberal scholars who debate the terms and try to say that the NT does not teach homosexuality to be immoral
20:54
but they ignore the consensus of the Fathers and their interpretations, and the views they held regarding the act
20:54
and they were all in agreement with one another
Мико⚜🐾
i think the specific word is "arsenokoitai" which roughly translates to man-bedder
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/25/2024 20:54
That's latin right? And was Latin the earliest Bible text?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
That's latin right? And was Latin the earliest Bible text?
Мико⚜🐾 08/25/2024 20:54
no, this is the Greek
20:54
I will look and see what term is used in the Latin Vulgate
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/25/2024 20:55
Thanks friend
20:55
I want to affirm my understanding of the Bible's stance on homosexuality.
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Мико⚜🐾 08/25/2024 20:57
the term used in the Latin Vulgate (4th century manuscript created by St. Jerome) he translated "arsenokoitai" or "man-bedder" to "neque masculorum concubitores"
20:57
meaning those who cohabit or lay with males
Мико⚜🐾
but they ignore the consensus of the Fathers and their interpretations, and the views they held regarding the act
Мико⚜🐾 08/25/2024 20:58
St. Basil (cappadocian father), St. John Cassian (monastic) and St. John Chyrsostom (very influential saint, we use his liturgy to this day in my church) were all anti-homosexuality (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
That's latin right? And was Latin the earliest Bible text?
Мико⚜🐾 08/25/2024 21:02
the earliest Biblical NT text was in Greek for most books and the first complete bible we still have today is Greek (Codex Sinaiticus) (edited)
21:02
the Latin Vulgate comes a little bit after, late 4th century. and then around the same time you have the compilation of the Syriac Peshitta
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/25/2024 21:03
Thank you brother Mikko
Мико⚜🐾 08/25/2024 21:31
anytime
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/26/2024 18:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVow8rSQwiA
TruthSource
Voddie Baucham: Brokenness
Мико⚜🐾 08/26/2024 19:07
"Ibn Kathir in his book Al-Bidaya wa al-Nihaya quotes Muhammad saying about the Jews and Christians: 'David died in the midst of his friends. They were not led astray, nor changed [their books]. The Friends of Christ stayed in His ordinances and guidance for two hundred years' (proved by Ibn Hibban). It is well-known that we have copies of the New Testament that go back to the fourth century A.D. These are in harmony with the books as they are today." (True Guidance, p. 179)
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19:08
"Ibn Mazar and Ibn Hatim state, in the commentary known as the Tafsir Durr-I-Mansur, that they have it on the authority of Ibn Muniyah, that the Taurat (i.e. the books of Moses), and the Injil (i.e. the Gospels), are in the same state of purity in which they were sent down from heaven, and that no alterations had been made in them, but that the Jews were wont to deceive the people by unsound arguments, and by wresting the sense of Scripture... Shah Waliyu `Illah, in his commentary, the Fauzul l-Kabir, and also Ibn Abbas, support the same view." (T. P. Hughes, p. 62)
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19:09
"The Imam Muhammad Isma'il al-Bukhari (p. 1127, line 7), records that Ibn Abbas said that the word Tahrif (corruption) signifies to change a thing from its original nature; and that there is no man who could corrupt a single word of what proceeded from God, so that the Jews and Christians could corrupt only by misrepresenting the meaning of the words of God.'" (T. P. Hughes, Dictionary of Islam [Kazi Publications, Inc, 3023-27 West Belmont Avenue, Chicago Il. 60618, 1994], p. 62)
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19:10
The Bible being corrupt was first promoted by Ibn Kazem (d. 1064 A.D.) as a means of avoiding the obvious contradictions between the Bible and the Quran. Believing that the Quran could not possibly have been corrupted, he then assumed that it was the Bible that underwent textual modifications.
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_wf 08/27/2024 06:48
Psalm 6:1-10 NIV
BibleBot BOT 08/27/2024 06:48
Psalm 6 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Prayer for Recovery from Grave Illness
<1> O Lord, rebuke me not in thy anger, nor chasten me in thy wrath. <2> Be gracious to me, O Lord, for I am languishing; O Lord, heal me, for my bones are troubled. <3> My soul also is sorely troubled. But thou, O Lord—how long? <4> Turn, O Lord, save my life; deliver me for the sake of thy steadfast love. <5> For in death there is no remembrance of thee; in Sheol who can give thee praise? <6> I am weary with my moaning; every night I flood my bed with tears; I drench my couch with my weeping. <7> My eye wastes away because of grief, it grows weak because of all my foes. <8> Depart from me, all you workers of evil; for the Lord has heard the sound of my weeping. <9> The Lord has heard my supplication; the Lord accepts my prayer. <10> All my enemies shall be ashamed and sorely troubled; they shall turn back, and be put to shame in a moment.
_wf 08/27/2024 06:48
uh
Мико⚜🐾 08/27/2024 08:49
i decided to write a long account as to why i hold to Genesis 6-9 recounting a regional and not global flood. Feel free to read and use (edited)
08:50
You're taking a selective extreme literalist view of the entire text. Just because it says "every living thing on the earth" English translation 156, this does not entail that the text is suggesting it (the flood event) happened worldwide. Genesis 6-9 (along with all Biblical literature) is filled with hyperbole, exaggeration and fluff/poetry either from the Father, "the Logos" or Word of God, or biblical characters (like Noah), so any Christian who takes a hardcore literalist view and discards scientific fact to do so willingly is an embarrassment or just in blissful ignorance.
Did God "make an end of all flesh" or "destroy Earth" in Genesis 6:12-13 according to the Bible's own account of the matter? Were the "windows of Heaven" truly opened in Genesis 8:2 or is this attempting to be poetic? The "fear and dread" of Noah and his family was not truly "placed upon the beasts of the land" in 9:2-3, was it? I wouldn't say my calico is afraid of me, nor is my grandma's friend's black Pomeranian. He's adorable... Anyways.
So far we've established Genesis 6:12-13 9:2-3 are some examples of hyperbole/exaggeration/poetry or fluff text. Let’s continue.
In Genesis 41:57, it says here that "all the Earth" came to purchase grain in Egypt due to a regional famine in the Middle East. It would be an absurdity for a Christian, 2nd Temple Period Jew or secular reader to believe the Mesoamericans and Chinese also took a trip to Egypt as well, right? Jacob in Genesis 42 sends his sons to Egypt while he remains home, this disproves the literalist view of the text in this instance, which would be F tier hermeneutic. It's obviously hyperbole.
In Genesis 14:11-12 when Abraham's brother Lot is kidnapped during the raid on Sodom and Gomorrah, it is recorded that "all the possessions" were taken. I think you understand the point I'm presenting now, right? It would be absurd to say their houses were taken or that they were ransacked for all they own. It'd be more logical to assume everything of value was seized. I want to now point out that the word used for "mountain" in Genesis 7, or "har" is also used for normal hills not only in the Torah, but extensively in the Tanakh. (e.g. Genesis 22:4, 36:8, Joshua 13:9, Haggai 1:8, 2 Kings 1:9, 23:13, Jeremiah 3:6 etc.) "hill" would be in fact the better translation for the word here as its the first meaning in every lexicon. And the NASB actually does this in their English translation (i don't care though, Septuagint supremacy!)
This allows me to declare, and rightly so, that mountains were indeed not covered in the way literalists who only read the English translation imagine, but hills instead.
The same word used in Genesis 7:19-20 that is translated into "were covered" is "kasah", which comes up not only in Genesis 24:65,38:14 and Leviticus 7:3 for other things than complete submersion in water (fat layer over a piece of meat, cover up a crime or wrongdoing, veil with piece of clothing) among with an innumerable amount of verses that contradict the idea of an absolute submersion of the mountains (which I have proven weren't necessarily mountains!)`(https://biblehub.com/hebrew/strongs_3680.htm)`
Just like today, the same word has a multitude of meanings. Ancient languages are worse than modern day ones like English. (edited)
08:50
In Malachi 2:13, the word is used to reference tears drenching an altar. Which gives me enough justification to state that the text is merely saying the mountains, well hills, were drenched but not submerged. The word used for "all the earth" or "kol erets" isn’t used in nearly any case to literally mean the entire planet as I will point out.
Genesis 2:11, 13:9 and 41:57 (pointed out earlier on), 1 Samuel 14:7, Isaiah 14:7 all use "kol erets" among many others and most do not literally refer to the entire planet or area. Is Genesis 2:11 truly suggesting that the river of Pishon covers the entire land of Havilah? Or does it truly suggest that the water flows through part of the entire land? When Abraham is talking with Lot in Genesis 13:9, does he mean to say that the whole Earth is before or for Lot when "kol erets" is used, or does he mean a particular area, as they look at Sodom and Salem? Obviously the latter.
With this in mind, it's not crazy to suggest a reading of a regional flood.
In St. Peter the Apostle's second epistle, he mentions the Noahide flood to have come upon the "world of the ungodly", and writes that it occurred in the "ancient world". This is patristic support of the interpretation of a regional flood. The Greek word for “world”, or "kosmos" is also repeatedly used in the NT (Matthew 4:8. John 1:29, John 3:!6, Romans 1:8 etc.) to connote a regional area or a relative viewpoint.
Now, let's go to Genesis 8:4-5 (for now I am using an English Septuagint but will appeal to the Hebrew MT as well).
"And the water continued to decrease until the tenth month. And in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, the heads of the mountains were seen." Up until this point of the flood narrative, the mountains (or better yet, hills as has been established prior) could not be seen, right? Noah after this sends forth a raven that "did not return until the water was dried from off the earth" in v7. In v8-9, he sends forth a dove after that for Noah to check if the waters had "ceased from off the earth". "And the dove not having found rest for her feet, returned to him into the ark, because the water was on all the face of the whole earth (which is 'kol erets' in the MT), and he stretched out his hand and took her, and brought her to himself into the ark. " If the passage arbitrarily at this point means that the whole Earth was flooded (kol erets is not used in this part of the book in this way not once), then this is a flat out textual contradiction. However, it is more logical to assume, with the proof that has been provided earlier and the wider context, that this is referring to the region Noah was in. The "mountains" or "hills", could mean either or in that specific case in the distance were still seen according to v5.
Let us now traverse to the first part of Genesis 8:13 (English Septuagint)
"And it came to pass in the six hundred and first year of the life of Noe, in the first month, on the first day of the month, the water subsided from off the earth (kol erets in MT)." This cannot be referring to the entire planet, because to this day and around the estimated time of Noah, there are massive oceans which cover 79% of the world. The authors of the Torah and possible corrupters of the text (I hold the Torah to be preserved but let's just say it has been edited beyond recognition) would both not be as ignorant as to make such a mistake. The text makes more sense once again if you hold the regional flood view, and profess that the water began to subside from Noah's region.
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08:51
Now, lets backtrack to Genesis 8:10-11.
"And having waited yet seven other days, he again sent forth the dove from the ark. And the dove returned to him in the evening, and had a leaf of olive, a sprig in her mouth; and Noe knew that the water had ceased from off the earth. " To hold to an extreme literalist view would require you to profess that after 10 months, in the space of 7 days the water evaporated across the entire planet, an olive seed was able to germinate, then fully grow into a mature tree. This is not what the text suggests at all, and would be a nonsensical assertion unless a miracle occurred. Something the text does not indicate at all. Adding these silly assumptions to cling onto the idea of the text referring to a global flood is irrational.
With all of this in mind, I think I am more than justified in my declaration that Genesis 6-9 is recounting a regional flood. And now finally we will look at what comes after the flood story in Genesis, which is the supposed to be the "table of nations" recorded in Genesis 10. This only records the lineage of the peoples in the region of Canaan and Mesopotamia, where the narrative of the Torah takes place. It makes no record or account for the peoples elsewhere in the known world of the time of the Torah, because it is not attempting to... because the flood was regional. This is the final piece of armour in my defence against the naïve surface level interpretation of a supposed global flood. (edited)
Sogga 08/27/2024 08:51
dont care, gonna rape you instead
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/27/2024 11:36
Holy fucking textwall, batman
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11:36
Might read later
NasCar 08/27/2024 11:39
Euro would be proud
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/27/2024 15:16
Completely throwing theology out of the window and viewing the death of Jesus from a purely critical lens, one can't help but admit there was clearly something special about this Jesus fella. His death quite literally transformed the Roman Empire. His death directly lead to a lot of people being persecuted by the empire and it took about 3 centuries for Christians within the empire to be recognised and allowed to exist without fear of persecution. All of this I take from texts by Tactius who was a Roman historian living in the empire at the time and Pliny the Younger's letters to the emperor Trajan. The fact that people felt so strongly about this man that they laid down their lives defending his message suggests he must have, in the very least, been an exceptional person in life. Enough to cause the birth of a new religion.
15:18
Further more the historical claim of Jesus being crucified and then his followers being martyred cohobates the claims made in the Bible, at least from a purely non-theological lens.
15:19
When I take my Christian cap off and put my rationalist cap back on, it's hard not deny that in the least there was something very, very significant and special about Jesus. (edited)
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/27/2024 15:26
Prior to becoming a Christian I had an event that affected me so badly that I can say it left me with PTSD. Was never medically diagnosed with it but the symptoms I experienced from it match up with those that suffer from PTSD. Thinking back on the event always caused me to tense up and hyperventilate. Even being reminded of something from that event would cause my mind to just disolve into mush. But the wild thing is that after becoming a Christian and praying for God to take this pain away from me he... did. I can think back on this event and it is now no different to thinking back on any period of my life. There is uncomfortableness but not a sudden uncontrollable burst of fear and stress. And so with all of that considered, I choose to believe in Christ.
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Мико⚜🐾
You're taking a selective extreme literalist view of the entire text. Just because it says "every living thing on the earth" English translation 156, this does not entail that the text is suggesting it (the flood event) happened worldwide. Genesis 6-9 (along with all Biblical literature) is filled with hyperbole, exaggeration and fluff/poetry either from the Father, "the Logos" or Word of God, or biblical characters (like Noah), so any Christian who takes a hardcore literalist view and discards scientific fact to do so willingly is an embarrassment or just in blissful ignorance.
Did God "make an end of all flesh" or "destroy Earth" in Genesis 6:12-13 according to the Bible's own account of the matter? Were the "windows of Heaven" truly opened in Genesis 8:2 or is this attempting to be poetic? The "fear and dread" of Noah and his family was not truly "placed upon the beasts of the land" in 9:2-3, was it? I wouldn't say my calico is afraid of me, nor is my grandma's friend's black Pomeranian. He's adorable... Anyways.
So far we've established Genesis 6:12-13 9:2-3 are some examples of hyperbole/exaggeration/poetry or fluff text. Let’s continue.
In Genesis 41:57, it says here that "all the Earth" came to purchase grain in Egypt due to a regional famine in the Middle East. It would be an absurdity for a Christian, 2nd Temple Period Jew or secular reader to believe the Mesoamericans and Chinese also took a trip to Egypt as well, right? Jacob in Genesis 42 sends his sons to Egypt while he remains home, this disproves the literalist view of the text in this instance, which would be F tier hermeneutic. It's obviously hyperbole.
In Genesis 14:11-12 when Abraham's brother Lot is kidnapped during the raid on Sodom and Gomorrah, it is recorded that "all the possessions" were taken. I think you understand the point I'm presenting now, right? It would be absurd to say their houses were taken or that they were ransacked for all they own. It'd be more logical to assume everything of value was seized. I want to now point out that the word used for "mountain" in Genesis 7, or "har" is also used for normal hills not only in the Torah, but extensively in the Tanakh. (e.g. Genesis 22:4, 36:8, Joshua 13:9, Haggai 1:8, 2 Kings 1:9, 23:13, Jeremiah 3:6 etc.) "hill" would be in fact the better translation for the word here as its the first meaning in every lexicon. And the NASB actually does this in their English translation (i don't care though, Septuagint supremacy!)
This allows me to declare, and rightly so, that mountains were indeed not covered in the way literalists who only read the English translation imagine, but hills instead.
The same word used in Genesis 7:19-20 that is translated into "were covered" is "kasah", which comes up not only in Genesis 24:65,38:14 and Leviticus 7:3 for other things than complete submersion in water (fat layer over a piece of meat, cover up a crime or wrongdoing, veil with piece of clothing) among with an innumerable amount of verses that contradict the idea of an absolute submersion of the mountains (which I have proven weren't necessarily mountains!)`(https://biblehub.com/hebrew/strongs_3680.htm)`
Just like today, the same word has a multitude of meanings. Ancient languages are worse than modern day ones like English. (edited)
_wf 08/27/2024 15:38
Holy Christ, what are you cooking, what are you debating about
15:38
I'll read it but I need some context
_wf
Holy Christ, what are you cooking, what are you debating about
Мико⚜🐾 08/27/2024 15:39
i decided to fold 2 people who believed in a global flood
15:39
this SDA guy and this Atheist who said we have "no evidence" of a global flood
Мико⚜🐾
this SDA guy and this Atheist who said we have "no evidence" of a global flood
_wf 08/27/2024 15:41
Bruh, I bet he does believe in other histical facts that has little evidence to be proved
15:41
That's intellectually dishonest on their behalf
_wf
Bruh, I bet he does believe in other histical facts that has little evidence to be proved
Мико⚜🐾 08/27/2024 15:41
"Empiricists" when you remind them not everything can be empirically proven:
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Мико⚜🐾
"Empiricists" when you remind them not everything can be empirically proven:
_wf 08/27/2024 15:52
Good heavens, that's lame of their behalf. You cooking Mikko, if someone ever try to make me doubt can I look up for you?
_wf
Good heavens, that's lame of their behalf. You cooking Mikko, if someone ever try to make me doubt can I look up for you?
Мико⚜🐾 08/27/2024 15:52
sure, just lmk
_wf 08/27/2024 15:53
Thanks a lot Mikko
15:53
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/27/2024 18:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE16MWiyLt8
Orthodox Exchange
How the Welsh Saved Civilisation
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18:46
@Мико⚜🐾 my algorithm randomly suggested me this.
18:46
Really good.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/27/2024 18:58
Might consider a pilgrimage to Llanilltud Fawr
Мико⚜🐾 08/27/2024 19:02
beautiful church
19:03
but yeah, i really like those frescos. its a shame a lot of them are lost due to the Calvinist episode the UK had during the 1500s
Мико⚜🐾 08/27/2024 19:20
so thats where St. Patrick got his catechesis
19:20
wow
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/27/2024 19:35
Yep! Looks like this is next on my to-do list.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE16MWiyLt8
bongvain 08/27/2024 19:42
gorgeous place
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE16MWiyLt8
Sogga 08/27/2024 20:09
funny mouse game when it tells you to speak welsh:
Sogga
funny mouse game when it tells you to speak welsh:
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/27/2024 20:09
whwfdowhedueiwdfiwediuwbdbieehdfihduihqodjqodj
20:09
Perfect welsh
Sogga 08/27/2024 20:10
false, you didnt yell fus ro dah in the end of your sentence
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/27/2024 20:10
True
_wf 08/28/2024 14:49
2 Corinthians 5:7 NKJV
BibleBot BOT 08/28/2024 14:49
2 Corinthians 5:7 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<7> For we walk by faith, not by sight.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/28/2024 17:01
Romans 1:18-20
BibleBot BOT 08/28/2024 17:01
Romans 1:18-20 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
The Guilt of Mankind
<18> For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and wickedness of men who by their wickedness suppress the truth. <19> For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. <20> Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse;
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/28/2024 17:02
Matthew 22:37-40
BibleBot BOT 08/28/2024 17:02
Matthew 22:37-40 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<37> And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. <38> This is the great and first commandment. <39> And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. <40> On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets."
Мико⚜🐾 08/28/2024 17:26
Psalm 103
Мико⚜🐾 08/28/2024 18:14
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/28/2024 18:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwJwZoxR4yM
Christ-Developed
ATHEIST ASKS TOUGH QUESTIONS! (Each One Gets Answered...)
18:56
An actual great discussion.
18:56
No shouting no this n that. Just an honest dialogue. Love it.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/29/2024 00:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8AggbAVSNQ
Simple History
The Medic Who fought a War without a Weapon
00:27
@Мико⚜🐾 If you haven't heard of Doss before, then I think you'll really like this.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/29/2024 10:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5n-O1KGHB8
Pax Tube
Why The Sexual Revolution Was Worse Than You Thought
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Мико⚜🐾 08/29/2024 13:25
Psalm 103:24
BibleBot BOT 08/29/2024 13:25
Psalms 103:24 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<24> How great are thy works, O Lord! In wisdom hast thou wrought them all: The earth is filled with thy creation.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/30/2024 17:51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBSe5kA91MU
Wise Disciple
Near Death Experiences PROVE Hell Is REAL! | Pastor Reacts
bongvain 08/30/2024 20:36
@Мико⚜🐾 is the world trying to actively make people violent against it with how backwards and retarded it has become
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20:37
are they trying to farm wrath? misery?
20:37
it cannot just be incompetence and bias against disagreeing parties
bongvain
it cannot just be incompetence and bias against disagreeing parties
Мико⚜🐾 08/30/2024 20:46
definitely not, no
bongvain 08/30/2024 20:47
i hope someday people dont have to deal with any of this
20:47
even if now its mild
bongvain
are they trying to farm wrath? misery?
Мико⚜🐾 08/30/2024 20:47
best to avoid what arenas they use it to do with
20:48
current media, cable and on-demand television etc. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
current media, cable and on-demand television etc. (edited)
bongvain 08/30/2024 20:49
only ever watch family guy and stoner cartoons and even then its obvious when its goyslop
20:49
my youtube feed
20:49
is drowning in ragebait
Мико⚜🐾 08/30/2024 20:49
just stick w/ the classic seasons
bongvain
is drowning in ragebait
Мико⚜🐾 08/30/2024 20:49
time to get an account reset
Мико⚜🐾
just stick w/ the classic seasons
bongvain 08/30/2024 20:49
anything before the animation change
Sogga 08/30/2024 20:49
watch the new norm, its literally peak
Мико⚜🐾 08/30/2024 20:50
i had yo do that some months ago
Sogga 08/30/2024 20:50
Мико⚜🐾 08/30/2024 20:50
now i just get music and theology
Мико⚜🐾
time to get an account reset
bongvain 08/30/2024 20:50
that is horrifically weak, i want to fight through this and form an ability to detect and avoid this
20:50
even if it means having to go face to face with babylonian rile sludge
Мико⚜🐾 08/30/2024 20:50
i get some news too but not that much
bongvain
that is horrifically weak, i want to fight through this and form an ability to detect and avoid this
Мико⚜🐾 08/30/2024 20:51
sometimes its better to protect your peace than flex your preverbial muscles
bongvain 08/30/2024 20:51
cant protect my peace if i dont know wahts threatening it
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/30/2024 21:02
Colossians 2:6-15
BibleBot BOT 08/30/2024 21:02
Colossians 2:6-15 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Fullness of Life in Christ
<6> As therefore you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so live in him, <7> rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, just as you were taught, abounding in thanksgiving. <8> See to it that no one makes a prey of you by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the universe, and not according to Christ. <9> For in him the whole fulness of deity dwells bodily, <10> and you have come to fulness of life in him, who is the head of all rule and authority. <11> In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of flesh in the circumcision of Christ; <12> and you were buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead. <13> And you, who were dead in trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, <14> having canceled the bond which stood against us with its legal demands; this he set aside, nailing it to the cross. <15> He disarmed the principalities and powers and made a public example of them, triumphing over them in him.
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Мико⚜🐾 08/30/2024 21:03
"For in Him the fullness of deity dwells bodily, and you have come to the fullness of life in Him, who is the head of all rule and authority."
NasCar 08/30/2024 22:35
22:35
_wf 08/31/2024 04:44
2 Timothy 4:3
BibleBot BOT 08/31/2024 04:44
2 Timothy 4:3 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<3> For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings,
_wf 08/31/2024 04:44
@NasCar there
04:44
wait
04:44
2 Timothy 4:3 NIV
BibleBot BOT 08/31/2024 04:44
2 Timothy 4:3 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<3> For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings,
_wf 08/31/2024 04:44
why
04:44
doesnt
04:44
shows up the NIV version
04:45
niv one goes like this "For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great."
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GR 08/31/2024 04:45
does NIV not work anymore? it used to
04:46
Isaiah 6:8 NIV
BibleBot BOT 08/31/2024 04:46
Isaiah 6:8 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<8> And I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?" Then I said, "Here am I! Send me."
GR 08/31/2024 04:46
OH I think Mikko or someone else may have set RSV by default
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NasCar 08/31/2024 04:47
lol
_wf 08/31/2024 04:47
regardless of the default settings, should be given the requested version when applied
04:47
I'd check on the bot's dashboard later
Мико⚜🐾 08/31/2024 05:07
@GR @_wf the version is set to RSV by default
05:07
do you guys want me to change it? i know how to work the bot (edited)
05:08
ohh yeah, sometimes the version goes offline. the bot is not perfect my OT goes missing sometimes for example
GR 08/31/2024 05:09
Ah
Мико⚜🐾 08/31/2024 07:45
psalm 22:1 NIV (its still not working pfft) (edited)
BibleBot BOT 08/31/2024 07:45
Psalms 22:1 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<1> A Psalm of David. The Lord tends me as a shepherd, And I shall want nothing.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/31/2024 09:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_PUSdO133A
Lotuseaters Dot Com
Hyde Park's Greatest Christian Defender | Calvin Robinson
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/31/2024 09:09
Me and a close friend of mine already seem to be in a little bit of conflict over my faith. I've known him for about 15 years online and he's very strict when it comes to rationality. Ergo, he is an atheist. But both me and him were raised Christian in poor environments which soured our opinions of the faith. He challenged me first about my faith, presumably out of "fear" that I might make the same mistakes that our parents did. And even after I put those worries to rest, when he asked my denom and I said Evangelical, he got very defensive, and said that: "In my part of the world, Evangelicals are the worst." I told him that the core of my belief is following Christ and trying to emulate his teachings, for which he said "Well why don't you follow the Unitarian denom? What about the Quaker denom?". To that end I say, because they don't swear by scripture word for word - I do. The only way I can follow Christ properly is if I trust in every word of the New Testament. (edited)
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Мико⚜🐾 08/31/2024 09:12
Unitarians deny the divinity of Christ
09:12
they arent Christians, so to name them among the denominations is like saying a Gnostic is Christian (edited)
09:12
1 John 2:22-23 NKJV
BibleBot BOT 08/31/2024 09:12
1 John 2:22-23 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<22> Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. <23> Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/31/2024 09:14
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09:17
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Me and a close friend of mine already seem to be in a little bit of conflict over my faith. I've known him for about 15 years online and he's very strict when it comes to rationality. Ergo, he is an atheist. But both me and him were raised Christian in poor environments which soured our opinions of the faith. He challenged me first about my faith, presumably out of "fear" that I might make the same mistakes that our parents did. And even after I put those worries to rest, when he asked my denom and I said Evangelical, he got very defensive, and said that: "In my part of the world, Evangelicals are the worst." I told him that the core of my belief is following Christ and trying to emulate his teachings, for which he said "Well why don't you follow the Unitarian denom? What about the Quaker denom?". To that end I say, because they don't swear by scripture word for word - I do. The only way I can follow Christ properly is if I trust in every word of the New Testament. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/31/2024 09:25
bad individuals who profess to be a member of this or that have no bearing on that things truth or falsity
09:26
i couldve rejected Orthodoxy due to my bad initial experience with people who were overzealous and uncharitable online, but that would be a choice out of emotion, not logic (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
they arent Christians, so to name them among the denominations is like saying a Gnostic is Christian (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/31/2024 09:28
the denominations are not all equally correct either nor have an equal case (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/31/2024 09:30
At the end of the day, CHRISTianity is about CHRIST. It's literally in the name. Therefore my logic is this: To be as close to the truth as possible, I need to follow Christ's word. To do that I have to go off the assumption that the New Testament is 100% accurately written. Everything else flows from that.
Мико⚜🐾 08/31/2024 09:39
ofc it would be a bit absurd to proclaim the text has been "corrupted" or that its not true (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/31/2024 09:57
Proverbs 27:17
BibleBot BOT 08/31/2024 09:57
Proverbs 27:17 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<17> Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/31/2024 12:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Noq_1PVQDTg
Enigma Kingdom
The SAD Reality Of Modern Christians in 2024 | Sermon | Mocking Chr...
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Noq_1PVQDTg
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/31/2024 12:46
He made some good points in this video
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 11:42
Someone asked me this and I'd like to hear what you'd answer this question: "...how can one tell the difference between a good and a bad belief?" (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception
Someone asked me this and I'd like to hear what you'd answer this question: "...how can one tell the difference between a good and a bad belief?" (edited)
serpente482 09/01/2024 12:19
If it causes harm in some way its bad
12:19
Spotting the harm is hard
serpente482
If it causes harm in some way its bad
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 12:21
That was my response. I asked him what his answer was for the question and he still hasn't responded
12:21
He also talked shit about Christianity and said that faith was for the mentally-ill
12:21
Fucking fag
Extra-sensory PURRception
Someone asked me this and I'd like to hear what you'd answer this question: "...how can one tell the difference between a good and a bad belief?" (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 09/01/2024 12:22
its a hard question, but also a simple one. A certain Judaean man once said "You will know them by their fruits"
Extra-sensory PURRception
He also talked shit about Christianity and said that faith was for the mentally-ill
Мико⚜🐾 09/01/2024 12:22
thats just silly. we all put our faith in something
12:22
we all worship something in this life
Мико⚜🐾
we all worship something in this life
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 12:23
True
Мико⚜🐾 09/01/2024 12:23
if not God or the gods from a pantheon, or a generic higher power, or spirits good and bad, we worship something thats material
12:23
like money, wealth, power, sex
Мико⚜🐾
if not God or the gods from a pantheon, or a generic higher power, or spirits good and bad, we worship something thats material
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 12:24
We can also worship a purpose
Extra-sensory PURRception
We can also worship a purpose
Мико⚜🐾 09/01/2024 12:36
true
Extra-sensory PURRception
He also talked shit about Christianity and said that faith was for the mentally-ill
serpente482 09/01/2024 12:44
Faith for the mentally ill? Ask a psychologist the religion of its patients
12:44
Depression is a mostly atheist problem
serpente482
Depression is a mostly atheist problem
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 12:45
True
Extra-sensory PURRception
He also talked shit about Christianity and said that faith was for the mentally-ill
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/01/2024 12:53
Does he hold this same view for Islam?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Does he hold this same view for Islam?
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 12:54
I don't know
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/01/2024 12:54
Ask him
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Ask him
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 12:55
He didn't even reply to me asking what his answer would be
12:56
He seems like an extremely arrogant person
Extra-sensory PURRception
He seems like an extremely arrogant person
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 12:56
Uses the most complicated terms that he can think of to compensate for being worng and subtly insults everyone (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/01/2024 12:57
Just tell him that in Islam you are taught to force people to convert via violence and that death is a punishment for many crimes under Islam, including leaving the faith where as no such laws or rules are true for Christianity. So unless he holds the same feelings for Islam then he's a hypocrite
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Just tell him that in Islam you are taught to force people to convert via violence and that death is a punishment for many crimes under Islam, including leaving the faith where as no such laws or rules are true for Christianity. So unless he holds the same feelings for Islam then he's a hypocrite
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 12:58
I highly doubt that he sees Islam as an exception since he said that it applied to faith in anything paranormal (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/01/2024 12:59
And if he hates Christianity so much he's welcome to move to a country not built on Christian values like Iraq or Pakistan and see if those cultures serve him better
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
And if he hates Christianity so much he's welcome to move to a country not built on Christian values like Iraq or Pakistan and see if those cultures serve him better
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 13:00
I doubt that he'd consider that a valid argument due to his arrogance
13:01
I'll just stop talking to this retard, he lost all credibility when he called faith a mental illness
Extra-sensory PURRception
I'll just stop talking to this retard, he lost all credibility when he called faith a mental illness
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 13:03
Even from an atheistic perspective faith is often something beneficial
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/01/2024 13:03
Well. Look at it this way. If atheists are right and we're wrong, nothing happens. If we're right and they're wrong, eternal damnation and suffering
13:03
13:03
You don't really have anything to lose by giving it a try
Extra-sensory PURRception
Even from an atheistic perspective faith is often something beneficial
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 13:05
Look at it this way: If I give you a pill and tell you that it increases testosterone, you'll get the effects even if it's just filled with sugar Faith is sufficient to make any change to your body and even more so when it comes to the mind If you pray for health, even if it isn't divinity that heals you faith is sufficient for you to heal
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13:06
Though, I do believe that when it comes to prayer and such there is divine intervention involved (edited)
13:06
Even if you aren't doing something like that, religion is still often a great way to build a base for morality
13:13
Question for Christians: Is it possible for someone who is not a Christian to go to heaven if they live a life which is almost free of sin?
serpente482
Depression is a mostly atheist problem
Мико⚜🐾 09/01/2024 13:48
not really, mental illness is only very slightly worse among the irreligious
13:49
its just followers of faiths have better means to get through it
13:49
access to local communities is one of them
13:50
third spaces
Extra-sensory PURRception
Question for Christians: Is it possible for someone who is not a Christian to go to heaven if they live a life which is almost free of sin?
Мико⚜🐾 09/01/2024 13:50
normally, no
Мико⚜🐾
normally, no
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 13:53
Мико⚜🐾 09/01/2024 13:54
i will explain later on
13:54
parish football game
Мико⚜🐾
parish football game
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 13:54
Alright
Мико⚜🐾 09/01/2024 13:54
its not as simple as "all non-Christians burn"
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 13:55
Okay
Extra-sensory PURRception
Question for Christians: Is it possible for someone who is not a Christian to go to heaven if they live a life which is almost free of sin?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/01/2024 14:56
Those who did not know who Christ was in life are given the opportunity to accept him.
14:57
I (think) also that non-believers are given the chance to accept Christ depending on their deeds in life.
14:58
I'm not entirely sure.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I (think) also that non-believers are given the chance to accept Christ depending on their deeds in life.
Sogga 09/01/2024 14:58
this should be a priority
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I (think) also that non-believers are given the chance to accept Christ depending on their deeds in life.
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 14:58
Okay
Sogga 09/01/2024 14:58
i see self proclaimed Christians say that if you're ever agnostic or atheist you have "automatically betrayed God and wont go to hevaen lalalala" bullshit
14:59
nobody is born Christian lmao it takes one time to connect with their faith
14:59
or something
Sogga
nobody is born Christian lmao it takes one time to connect with their faith
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 15:00
Nobody is born as any faith, but they can be born into an environment which makes you more likely to believe in something from your early years
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/01/2024 15:38
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls
Dead Sea Scrolls
The Dead Sea Scrolls, also called the Qumran Caves Scrolls, are a set of ancient Jewish manuscripts from the Second Temple period. They were discovered over a period of 10 years, between 1946 and 1956, at the Qumran Caves near Ein Feshkha in the West Bank, on the northern shore of the Dead Sea. Dating from the 3rd century BCE to the 1st century ...
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 15:42
Oh, I've seen this somewhere
15:42
What's it about exactly?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/01/2024 15:42
It's amazing how further down the rabbit hole I go, the more my faith is verified.
Extra-sensory PURRception
What's it about exactly?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/01/2024 15:43
Oldest known manuscript that is pretty much a one for one of the modern day Old Testament (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 15:43
Oh, right
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/01/2024 16:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLOujLn4ATQ
Enigma Kingdom
WARNING About TRUE CHRISTIAN Persecution | Sermon | Religious Freed...
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 17:32
Does anyone know any good literature about astrology? (preferably something written a long time ago?
Мико⚜🐾 09/01/2024 17:37
alright, so now i will explain whether it is possible to go to Heaven if you live a life that is supposedly "almost free of sin"
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 17:38
Alright
Extra-sensory PURRception
Alright
Мико⚜🐾 09/01/2024 18:48
Normatively, no. You must have, if it was within your grasp to in your previous life, accepted Christ and/or at least have desired to be a part of His body. Whether in baptism of water, blood or fruitful desire. And the latter one is considered to be less efficacious than the former 2. Scripture and patristic witness is clear. Nonetheless, there is some nuance here. It is also possible under special circumstance and exception for God in His infinite love and justice to grant Paradise to those who are:

- baptised (physical members of the church) yet become apostate later on in life
- the heterodox Christians who have a portion but not the fullness of Christ
- even the non Christians/formally heretical.

This would not be because you lived an "almost sinless life" however. although your works are taken into account on the day of Judgement, they are not the basis of your salvation especially if they did not aid in your journey of becoming closer to God. We're not Pelagians. "All have fallen short of the glory of God", as Paul says in Romans 2. David writes that there is "not a single one who does good, not even one" in the 53rd Psalm. They are saved through God's grace, often "invoked" if you could say that, through the fervent prayer and intercession for said person. Shortly after death in particular, outside of Divine Liturgy in other services and privately (we do not pray for the non-Orthodox reposed in Divine Liturgy.) But you can and should pray for everyone in your life and even outside of it right until the Day of Judgement comes. This is for two reasons:

- When someone reposes, they begin to traverse the spiritual realm in an attempt to reach Heaven. We do not believe the soul immediately teleports to either Heaven or Hell, so for most but not all (like some of the Saints etc.) there is one final test or journey to go through called the "toll house". Not all successful or failed journeys are as long as one another either. You essentially fight demons with the guidance of your guardian angel as they, the demons, attempt to tempt or condemn you with and for the major sins and passions you struggled with in life. God permits the demons to do this in order to strengthen His children's souls and finish perfecting you for Heaven, but obviously those who did not know Him or actively chose to reject Him stand less or no chance. Which is precisely why we pray for their safety and their souls.
- Hell is temporary. Yes, you read that right, Hell is temporary. So is Heaven. There will be a new Heaven and a new Earth, and the current Hell will likewise be replaced with an eternal one, "the Lake of Fire" as it's called in Revelation. The current Heaven and Hell are only foretastes of what is to come in the future. Some people in this temporary Hell can and will be in the future saved or dragged out of this Hell before Judgement Day.

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18:50
As for those who had no chance of accepting Christ in their life, they will be judged by a different standard than to those who did. God is just, and will judge them uniquely according to "the Law that was written on their hearts and by their own conscience" and "will be beaten with fewer blows for not knowing their Master's will" (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
As for those who had no chance of accepting Christ in their life, they will be judged by a different standard than to those who did. God is just, and will judge them uniquely according to "the Law that was written on their hearts and by their own conscience" and "will be beaten with fewer blows for not knowing their Master's will" (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 09/01/2024 18:53
however it goes without saying that it is impossible to deduce whether everyone who never heard about Christ did not because God did not will it for good reason, such as foreknowing the use of their free will (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Normatively, no. You must have, if it was within your grasp to in your previous life, accepted Christ and/or at least have desired to be a part of His body. Whether in baptism of water, blood or fruitful desire. And the latter one is considered to be less efficacious than the former 2. Scripture and patristic witness is clear. Nonetheless, there is some nuance here. It is also possible under special circumstance and exception for God in His infinite love and justice to grant Paradise to those who are:

- baptised (physical members of the church) yet become apostate later on in life
- the heterodox Christians who have a portion but not the fullness of Christ
- even the non Christians/formally heretical.

This would not be because you lived an "almost sinless life" however. although your works are taken into account on the day of Judgement, they are not the basis of your salvation especially if they did not aid in your journey of becoming closer to God. We're not Pelagians. "All have fallen short of the glory of God", as Paul says in Romans 2. David writes that there is "not a single one who does good, not even one" in the 53rd Psalm. They are saved through God's grace, often "invoked" if you could say that, through the fervent prayer and intercession for said person. Shortly after death in particular, outside of Divine Liturgy in other services and privately (we do not pray for the non-Orthodox reposed in Divine Liturgy.) But you can and should pray for everyone in your life and even outside of it right until the Day of Judgement comes. This is for two reasons:

- When someone reposes, they begin to traverse the spiritual realm in an attempt to reach Heaven. We do not believe the soul immediately teleports to either Heaven or Hell, so for most but not all (like some of the Saints etc.) there is one final test or journey to go through called the "toll house". Not all successful or failed journeys are as long as one another either. You essentially fight demons with the guidance of your guardian angel as they, the demons, attempt to tempt or condemn you with and for the major sins and passions you struggled with in life. God permits the demons to do this in order to strengthen His children's souls and finish perfecting you for Heaven, but obviously those who did not know Him or actively chose to reject Him stand less or no chance. Which is precisely why we pray for their safety and their souls.
- Hell is temporary. Yes, you read that right, Hell is temporary. So is Heaven. There will be a new Heaven and a new Earth, and the current Hell will likewise be replaced with an eternal one, "the Lake of Fire" as it's called in Revelation. The current Heaven and Hell are only foretastes of what is to come in the future. Some people in this temporary Hell can and will be in the future saved or dragged out of this Hell before Judgement Day.

Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 19:13
Thanks for taking the time and effort to write this
19:16
I think that I should be fine if what you're saying is true
Extra-sensory PURRception
I think that I should be fine if what you're saying is true
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/01/2024 20:19
Honestly, what you wrote really confirms my already existing view on Christianity
Extra-sensory PURRception
Thanks for taking the time and effort to write this
Мико⚜🐾 09/01/2024 20:36
its fine i thought itd be better to write something good not only so you could get an understanding that isnt usually heard, but also I can then send this to other people if they or someone theyre talking to is asking (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception
Honestly, what you wrote really confirms my already existing view on Christianity
Мико⚜🐾 09/01/2024 20:37
what was your pre existing view
Мико⚜🐾
what was your pre existing view
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/02/2024 06:48
It's complicated, but for the after-death part: I already thought that heaven (and hell?) were "places" on the higher astral planes to which people might get taken to by entities (likely ones that you'd refer to as angels) (edited)
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Arcane BOT 09/02/2024 06:48
@Extra-sensory PURRception has reached level 27. GG!
Extra-sensory PURRception
It's complicated, but for the after-death part: I already thought that heaven (and hell?) were "places" on the higher astral planes to which people might get taken to by entities (likely ones that you'd refer to as angels) (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/02/2024 06:49
So that was my view on the afterlife of (faithful?) Christians
Extra-sensory PURRception
It's complicated, but for the after-death part: I already thought that heaven (and hell?) were "places" on the higher astral planes to which people might get taken to by entities (likely ones that you'd refer to as angels) (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 09/02/2024 06:55
Yeah, in Orthodoxy Heaven and Hell arent outside of creation. theyre created spaces
Extra-sensory PURRception
So that was my view on the afterlife of (faithful?) Christians
Мико⚜🐾 09/02/2024 06:55
you were nearly there already
Мико⚜🐾
you were nearly there already
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/02/2024 06:56
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/02/2024 16:06
@Мико⚜🐾 Here's a weirdly specific question.
16:06
What are the biblical significances of...
16:06
Colours
Мико⚜🐾 09/02/2024 17:56
there is some symbolism regarding different colours in the Bible
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Colours
Мико⚜🐾 09/02/2024 17:59
Red represents sin, vitality of animals and people and becomes a colour of redemption in the New Testament. Black symbolises judgement, pestilence and decay across the board. Purple is symbolic of luxury and elegance. White represents purity, victory and conquest.
18:00
those are some that come to mind right now. Sorry, Eurocyon asked me why God created the universe
Мико⚜🐾
those are some that come to mind right now. Sorry, Eurocyon asked me why God created the universe
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/02/2024 18:01
Boy is asking the big questions
Мико⚜🐾 09/02/2024 18:22
18:23
one reason why the triune God i would argue is necessary is because a monad is contingent on something else to love
Мико⚜🐾
Red represents sin, vitality of animals and people and becomes a colour of redemption in the New Testament. Black symbolises judgement, pestilence and decay across the board. Purple is symbolic of luxury and elegance. White represents purity, victory and conquest.
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/02/2024 18:23
I've heard that purple can symbolize divinity, could that be true in Christianity too?
Extra-sensory PURRception
I've heard that purple can symbolize divinity, could that be true in Christianity too?
Мико⚜🐾 09/02/2024 18:23
yeah, it definitely can
18:23
since luxury, majesty, divinity, they almost go hand in hand
Мико⚜🐾
since luxury, majesty, divinity, they almost go hand in hand
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/02/2024 18:24
Yeah
Zoraxe 09/02/2024 20:16
Purple most likely came to represent those things due to its rarity back then. Only nobles could afford to wear purple clothing
Мико⚜🐾 09/02/2024 21:36
'Now let us proceed to the object of our discussion and endeavour to explain the Common and Undifferenced Names belonging to God’s Differentiated Being. And, that the subject of our investigation may be clearly defined beforehand, we give the name of Divine Differentiation (as was said) to the beneficent Emanations of the Supreme Godhead. For bestowing upon all things and supernally infusing Its Communications unto the goodly Universe, It becomes differentiated without loss of Indifference; and multiplied without loss of Unity; from Its Oneness it becomes manifold while yet remaining within Itself. For example, since God is super-essentially Existent and bestows existence upon all things that are, and brings the world into being, that single Existence of His is said to become manifold through bringing forth the many existences from Itself, while yet He remains One in the act of Self-Multiplication; Undifferenced throughout the process of Emanation, and Full in the emptying process of Differentiation; Super-Essentially transcending the Being of all things, and guiding the whole world onwards by an indivisible act, and pouring forth without diminution His indefectible bounties. Yea, being One and communicating of His Unity both unto every part of the world and also unto the whole, both unto that which is one and unto that which is many, He is One in an unchangeable and super-essential manner, being neither an unit in the multiplicity of things nor yet the sum total of such units. Indeed, He is not an unity in this sense, and doth not participate in unity nor possess it: but He is an Unity in a manner far different from this, above all unity which is in the world; yea, He is an Indivisible Plurality, insatiable yet brim-full, producing, perfecting, and maintaining all unity and plurality. Moreover, since many, through Deification from Him, are made Gods (so far as the Godlike capacity of each allows), there thus appears to be what is called a Differentiation and a Reduplication of the One God, yet nonetheless He is the primal God, the Supra-Divine and Super-Essentially One God, who dwells Indivisibly within the separate and individual things, being an Undifferenced Unity in Himself and without any commixture or multiplication through His contact with the Many. And supernaturally perceiving this, thus speaketh (by inspiration, in his holy writings) that Guide unto Divine illumination by whom both we and our teacher are led, that mighty man in things Divine, that Luminary of the world. For though (saith he) there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth (as there be gods many and lords many). But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in Him, and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by Him. For in divine things the undifferenced Unities are of more might than the Differentiations and hold the foremost place and retain their state of Indifference even after the One has, without departing from Its oneness, entered into Differentiation. These Differentiations or beneficent Emanations of the whole Godhead—whereby Its Undifferenced Nature is shared in common—we shall (so far as in us lies) endeavour to describe from the Divine Names which reveal them in the Scriptures, having now made this clear beforehand (as hath been said): that every Name of the Divine beneficent Activity unto whichever of the Divine Persons it is applied, must be taken as belonging, without distinction, to the whole entirety of the Godhead.'
`St. Dionysius the Areopagite, The Divine Names, Chapter 2 Section 11` (edited)
21:37
Dionysius is a very interesting witness to the early church
Zoraxe 09/03/2024 01:41
Is there any specific modern Bible print that's recommended?
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Zoraxe
Is there any specific modern Bible print that's recommended?
Мико⚜🐾 09/03/2024 06:02
youre long gone from the store now, but I would recommend an English Septuagint (Old Testament taken from the Koine Greek 'Septuagint' manuscripts) and a Douay Rheims or New King James New Testament
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06:04
that would be two separate books though. So if you want to buy 1 whole book I would recommend either the Orthodox Study Bible (which has an Septuagint OT and New King James NT) or a Douay Rheims Bible (which uses the Latin Vulgate as its source text, still a better pick than the Masoretic) (edited)
06:07
You will find that although Church Fathers did dispute what were canonical books and what weren't, none of them, not a single one referred to source text the Rabbinical Jews used and created, let alone the Masoretic Text. They universally used a Septuagint, as early as Paul and Dionysius.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/03/2024 15:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqswqePZH3k
Wise Disciple
TikTok ADVICE for Men Will Send You to HELL! | Pastor Reacts
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/03/2024 21:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMhWLtDUQ2s&t=0s @Мико⚜🐾
OS X KM street preaching
“Im going to get you.. I won’t ever stop” BLOOD sprayed at preache...
21:00
Demons walk this earth but remain steadfast my brother for they cannot pierce those who have Jesus imprinted on their hearts.
ungen 09/05/2024 09:20
Do I curbstomp a friend for saying "jimmy took the fall so you can sin sin sin." Is this some disrespectful Protestant chant?
ungen
Do I curbstomp a friend for saying "jimmy took the fall so you can sin sin sin." Is this some disrespectful Protestant chant?
bongvain 09/05/2024 10:15
touch his thigh and whisper "nobody will ever believe you"
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/05/2024 15:16
"Bro repentance is so pointless because you can just keep sinning just make sure you say sorry xdddddddd"
15:17
High tier anti-theology argument here.
Мико⚜🐾 09/05/2024 15:17
Christ died so we could be free from sin. 1 Corinthians 6:18-20 DRA
BibleBot BOT 09/05/2024 15:17
1 Corinthians 6:18-20 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<18> Fly fornication. Every sin that a man doth, is without the body; but he that committeth fornication, sinneth against his own body. <19> Or know you not, that your members are the temple of the Holy Ghost, who is in you, whom you have from God; and you are not your own? <20> For you are bought with a great price. Glorify and bear God in your body.
Мико⚜🐾 09/05/2024 15:18
we are bought with a price as Paul says here. John 8:33-36 DRA
BibleBot BOT 09/05/2024 15:18
John 8:33-36 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<33> They answered him: We are the seed of Abraham, and we have never been slaves to any man: how sayest thou: you shall be free? <34> Jesus answered them: Amen, amen I say unto you: that whosoever committeth sin, is the servant of sin. <35> Now the servant abideth not in the house for ever; but the son abideth for ever. <36> If therefore the son shall make you free, you shall be free indeed.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/05/2024 15:18
Deliberately sinning over and over just to say "sorry lol" afterwards goes against the point of repentance.
15:19
When you rock up to God you think he's gonna forgive you for fucking 50 chicks outside of marriage but it's okay because you said sorry?
15:19
Lol, good luck.
15:20
Point of repentance is: A. You actually mean it B. You are making a conscious effort to not offend again. And if you do offend again? C. You repent and you mean it.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/05/2024 15:55
https://www.youtube.com/@OfficialOSXKM/videos
OS X KM street preaching
welcome to the official OSXKM YouTube channel. We are here to UNASHAMEDLY, BOLDLY Preach the Gospel without the compromise! we love to take the soul saving message of Jesus Christ to the streets ! So on this channel you can follow what happens when we do that on the streets of the UK. we want to you to be encouraged, involved and excited so...
15:55
Not normally big on street preachers but this guy gets it right.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Not normally big on street preachers but this guy gets it right.
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/05/2024 16:12
I watched a couple of his videos after the one you posted, pretty good content
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/05/2024 16:13
A true evangelist
bongvain
touch his thigh and whisper "nobody will ever believe you"
ungen 09/05/2024 18:44
So true QoH
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/05/2024 19:09
James 1:19-20
BibleBot BOT 09/05/2024 19:09
James 1:19-20 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Hearing and Doing the Word
<19> Know this, my beloved brethren. Let every man be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger, <20> for the anger of man does not work the righteousness of God.
ungen
So true QoH
bongvain 09/05/2024 20:34
Sogga 09/05/2024 21:23
Genesis 1:3
BibleBot BOT 09/05/2024 21:23
Genesis 1:3 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<3> And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.
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Sogga 09/05/2024 21:24
i love this little verse
21:24
for some reason
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/06/2024 07:46
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ungen 09/06/2024 07:49
Jesus is a really common name where I live, but I think that's a W.
Arcane BOT 09/06/2024 07:49
@ungen has reached level 18. GG!
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 11:25
NasCar 09/06/2024 11:26
Man looks like vaush
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 11:29
11:29
attended an online friends baptism
NasCar
Man looks like vaush
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 11:33
nahh dont violate him
Мико⚜🐾
nahh dont violate him
NasCar 09/06/2024 11:54
Just looks
NasCar
Just looks
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 12:03
he does still
Мико⚜🐾
attended an online friends baptism
serpente482 09/06/2024 12:34
Wtf
serpente482
Wtf
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 12:42
?
Мико⚜🐾
?
serpente482 09/06/2024 12:46
An online friend
12:46
1
Sogga 09/06/2024 12:49
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/06/2024 14:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb8kdl1N91E
OS X KM street preaching
TEENS hear the TRUTH they desperately need!| MUST SEE!
14:17
This is what good gospel preaching does.
14:17
Trans person getting defensive by asking if they'll go to hell for being trans but then they listen to the gospel
14:17
Amen to that.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Trans person getting defensive by asking if they'll go to hell for being trans but then they listen to the gospel
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 09/06/2024 14:18
What is a gospel (edited)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What is a gospel (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/06/2024 14:18
The gospel is the word of God.
14:18
It's the message about God.
ungen 09/06/2024 16:29
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Sogga 09/06/2024 17:38
https://www.reddit.com/r/antinatalism/s/1mb8vyoltH what are your guys' thoughts to this
From the antinatalism community on Reddit: So ironic that the peopl...
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TwiloThunder✝🇻🇦 09/06/2024 20:08
I think there is a difference between people who just don't have kids and fucking antinatalist
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/06/2024 20:08
Antinatalist?
TwiloThunder✝🇻🇦 09/06/2024 20:09
Some gay philosophy that having children is evil because you are bringing new people to suffer
20:10
Very gnostic
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/06/2024 20:10
Oh yeah fuck that noise
TwiloThunder✝🇻🇦 09/06/2024 20:11
Like, those are the people who will call you "breeders"
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/06/2024 20:11
Lefitsts wanna talk about dehumanising behaviour, they should be going after those peolpe
TwiloThunder✝🇻🇦 09/06/2024 20:12
Of course I am going to shame (read point and laugh at) them
20:13
After a few encounters with those people I think they just hate children. The big words are just window dressing
20:14
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TwiloThunder✝🇻🇦
https://fixupx.com/CursedModernism/status/1818467828644622751?t=K8mGkSuKC3Oj6vfC4VSghQ&s=19 (edited)
GR 09/06/2024 20:17
no way these are real people
bongvain 09/06/2024 20:18
theyre real but i doubt theyre people
Zoraxe 09/06/2024 20:46
Wow this is very dehumanizing How do they expect to have influence when they discourage the very thing that allows their cultural mindset to continue?
Sogga
https://www.reddit.com/r/antinatalism/s/1mb8vyoltH what are your guys' thoughts to this
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 20:47
just a silly statement to even posit
Zoraxe
Wow this is very dehumanizing How do they expect to have influence when they discourage the very thing that allows their cultural mindset to continue?
bongvain 09/06/2024 20:47
rent free living in theyre parents house
20:47
having everything they ever wanted on a silver plate
20:47
actual bad parenting
Sogga 09/06/2024 20:48
im a victim of bad parenting but i didnt turn out that bad lel
Zoraxe 09/06/2024 20:49
I realized very young that when you cheat in videogames to get all the good stuff, you lose the reason to play at all since there is no achievement. That's a lesson that often has to be learned the hard way, but some people never do until they're way too far into adult life (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 20:49
"waaah world bad therefore stop reproducing" there isnt even such a thing as objective good and bad in a consistent anti natalist viewpoint
Мико⚜🐾
"waaah world bad therefore stop reproducing" there isnt even such a thing as objective good and bad in a consistent anti natalist viewpoint
Sogga 09/06/2024 20:49
what can defeat nilhism
20:49
thats right
bongvain 09/06/2024 20:49
my life sucks so we should all die so others peoples live dont have to suck even doe they dont!!!!! or someshit
Sogga 09/06/2024 20:49
the aid of God
bongvain 09/06/2024 20:50
miseryoids jerking eachother off
20:50
on twitter
20:50
same ol same ol
bongvain
my life sucks so we should all die so others peoples live dont have to suck even doe they dont!!!!! or someshit
GR 09/06/2024 20:51
omw to have 10 kids to make them seethe
Zoraxe 09/06/2024 20:51
Life may suck. Therefore it is our duty to help others so it doesn't. Make it a better place, but don't deprive others of their responsibility to do the same
GR
omw to have 10 kids to make them seethe
bongvain 09/06/2024 20:52
make them seethe where theyre parents made them soft as boiled carrots
20:52
real father shit yo kids always gotta do better than you
Sogga 09/06/2024 20:52
brrr skibdi dom dom dom yeb yeb
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 20:53
not being nihilist
Мико⚜🐾
not being nihilist
Sogga 09/06/2024 20:54
skiibdi toler
20:54
brrrr skippity
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 20:54
the endgoal of nihilism is to kill yourself
Sogga 09/06/2024 20:54
dom dom yes yes
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 20:54
if youre not ready to do that, youre not a nihilist
Мико⚜🐾
the endgoal of nihilism is to kill yourself
Sogga 09/06/2024 20:54
killing yourself is lame, kill others instead
20:54
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 20:54
if youre a nihilist why even bother to debate your position
Sogga
killing yourself is lame, kill others instead
bongvain 09/06/2024 20:54
the nashville school shooter
bongvain
the nashville school shooter
Sogga 09/06/2024 20:55
PFFT
20:55
didnt xher gun have hwabag written on it
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 20:55
it would be ridiculous to because why does bringing people to the truth matter
Sogga
didnt xher gun have hwabag written on it
GR 09/06/2024 20:55
LOL imagine
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 20:55
what is truth even in nihilism?
Sogga
killing yourself is lame, kill others instead
Zoraxe 09/06/2024 20:55
The weird contradiction to that is that it technically gives you a "purpose" and undermines exact nihilism
Sogga
didnt xher gun have hwabag written on it
bongvain 09/06/2024 20:55
cobson hate or cobson love?
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 20:55
crickets
bongvain 09/06/2024 20:55
coping about cobson followers calling xher homo?
20:55
idk
Zoraxe
The weird contradiction to that is that it technically gives you a "purpose" and undermines exact nihilism
Sogga 09/06/2024 20:55
tbh some people wanna go out with a bang
Мико⚜🐾
what is truth even in nihilism?
GR 09/06/2024 20:56
it's amazing that people have have any argument for nihilism at all
20:57
if it doesn't matter, why bother
20:57
can't imagine being so insufferable to not just those around you but to yourself as well
bongvain 09/06/2024 20:58
>just give up and rot a gorillion years of not doing that have gotten us so far
20:58
why give up now as soon as things get hard
Sogga 09/06/2024 20:58
maybe if we dont give nilhists attention they'll stop being so moody and change
20:59
its more of an attention thing now thb
Sogga
maybe if we dont give nilhists attention they'll stop being so moody and change
bongvain 09/06/2024 20:59
give them and noose and tell them "is it for attention or nah"
TwiloThunder✝🇻🇦
https://fixupx.com/CursedModernism/status/1818467828644622751?t=K8mGkSuKC3Oj6vfC4VSghQ&s=19 (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/06/2024 21:00
"Breeders" "Little spawns" "crotchfruits" Holy mother Mary do these inbreds have the most infantile insults.
GR 09/06/2024 21:01
"orgasm monument" is easily the worst thing I've ever heard
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/06/2024 21:01
Just to spite uhhh... antinatalists. I'm going to make sure me and my future wife have 5 children - minimum.
Zoraxe 09/06/2024 21:01
Somebody pointed out the number of successful Grandpas, Grandmas, and ancestors that someone must've had up to this point in time just for them to choose dressing up as a femboy
GR
"orgasm monument" is easily the worst thing I've ever heard
Sogga 09/06/2024 21:02
sounds like something lustful satanists worship
21:02
what if we kissed on the orgasm monument
Zoraxe
Somebody pointed out the number of successful Grandpas, Grandmas, and ancestors that someone must've had up to this point in time just for them to choose dressing up as a femboy
Sogga 09/06/2024 21:02
zoraxe the type of guy to wear teal colored stockings tbh
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
"Breeders" "Little spawns" "crotchfruits" Holy mother Mary do these inbreds have the most infantile insults.
Zoraxe 09/06/2024 21:03
And there is still nothing that will match this one word
Zoraxe
And there is still nothing that will match this one word
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/06/2024 21:03
Zoraxe
And there is still nothing that will match this one word
Sogga 09/06/2024 21:03
why are we bringing nigeria to this debate saar
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
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Sogga 09/06/2024 21:03
is that the hawk tuah girl
Zoraxe 09/06/2024 21:03
Better not be
Sogga 09/06/2024 21:04
you hawk tuah be rizzing me
Sogga
why are we bringing nigeria to this debate saar
GR 09/06/2024 21:04
GR
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Sogga 09/06/2024 21:04
i always knew this
Sogga
zoraxe the type of guy to wear teal colored stockings tbh
Zoraxe 09/06/2024 21:04
Teal is a cool color But no, we ain't doing that
Zoraxe
Teal is a cool color But no, we ain't doing that
Sogga 09/06/2024 21:04
arm warmers
21:04
blahaj
21:04
estrogen pills
Zoraxe 09/06/2024 21:06
I had arm warmers for a bit. Would get too easily chilled in the Winter in doors particularly in my hands, and needed something to keep mostly warm while keeping the dexterity of my bare fingers
GR
can't imagine being so insufferable to not just those around you but to yourself as well
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 21:06
thats the thing
Zoraxe
I had arm warmers for a bit. Would get too easily chilled in the Winter in doors particularly in my hands, and needed something to keep mostly warm while keeping the dexterity of my bare fingers
Sogga 09/06/2024 21:06
wear your arm warmers while doing mechanical shit
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 21:06
i try to point this out to crypto nihilists like say, Salad. goes through to deaf ears
Sogga 09/06/2024 21:06
it will look so shmexy
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 21:06
pray for him anyway tho
Sogga 09/06/2024 21:07
whats up with salad
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
"Breeders" "Little spawns" "crotchfruits" Holy mother Mary do these inbreds have the most infantile insults.
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 21:07
you gotta understand people in this life already hate the Good
21:07
they already hate beauty
21:08
and in the same way the godly and the saints begin to experience Heaven on Earth in the now the godless and those reserved for the deepest pits of Hell already create it for themselves here
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/06/2024 21:08
Me and my future wife are having 5 children minimum and maybe more if we feel like it. Just to spite these nihilist cunts.
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 21:12
i will spawn many smart wonderful little mikkos and matronas if God wills it
Zoraxe 09/06/2024 21:16
Hard part: where wife
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Zoraxe
Hard part: where wife
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/06/2024 21:21
trve
Sogga 09/06/2024 21:25
@Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian become rich first if you plan to have many kids
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/06/2024 21:25
Why do you think I'm in college with Uni lined up next year? Why do you think I'm going into cyber security which is a more lucrative field of comp sci?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
"Breeders" "Little spawns" "crotchfruits" Holy mother Mary do these inbreds have the most infantile insults.
TwiloThunder✝🇻🇦 09/06/2024 21:26
that's a thing with liberals. Notice how on twitter their response to someone speaking against current day liberal mindset is gonna be something like "we can smell you from here" (edited)
21:26
literally just saying "oh smelly smelly"
21:26
those are very playground level insults
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 21:27
yup, cause they cant actually cope with the argument theyre giving
21:27
even if bro did smell, it doesnt make his point any less valid. merely makes him the wrong person to deliver it
Sogga
@Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian become rich first if you plan to have many kids
GR 09/06/2024 21:27
psyop
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 21:27
what gefreiter said
GR
psyop
Sogga 09/06/2024 21:27
how you gonna afford 5 kids at the same time
21:28
in this economy
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 21:28
the people who are having 5 kids dont make money
21:28
theyre on welfare
21:28
LOL
Sogga
how you gonna afford 5 kids at the same time
GR 09/06/2024 21:28
"LIE AT THE FOOD STAMPS OFFICE!!!"
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 21:28
people still dont realise this in 2024, that you dont need money to have kids
21:28
youre better off in Germany on welfare w/ 2 kids compared to earning the median income, and thats one example (edited)
Sogga 09/06/2024 21:29
fuck that shit, im finding a job that will get me millions first
21:29
gonna rob banks n shieet
21:29
gonna steal from the rich n shieet
Мико⚜🐾
LOL
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 21:30
bottom class abduls and leylahs have 6 kids meanwhile sexless middle class white couples are too scared to give up their consumerism and downsize (edited)
Sogga 09/06/2024 21:31
@Мико⚜🐾 you say this as if you actually did this tho
21:31
let us see you raise 5 kids then
Sogga
@Мико⚜🐾 you say this as if you actually did this tho
bongvain 09/06/2024 21:31
its called spitting facts
21:31
urethra guzzler
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 21:31
im not allowed to make an observation because i dont have 5 kids myself?
21:31
lmao
bongvain 09/06/2024 21:31
by lord christ this guys balls
21:31
will be coolstrated
21:31
and keep in a jar of acid
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 21:32
he will let the WEF snip them
21:32
you vill own nothing and be happy
21:32
Sogga 09/06/2024 21:32
you'll see eventually that raising more than 2 kids will become a nightmare for most
21:32
welfare my ass
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 21:32
not a nightmare for the abduls and leylahs
21:32
or the tyrones and shaniquas
21:33
youve been sold a lie
Мико⚜🐾
bottom class abduls and leylahs have 6 kids meanwhile sexless middle class white couples are too scared to give up their consumerism and downsize (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/06/2024 21:33
... Fair point actually. I just don't like being a benefits mooch
Sogga 09/06/2024 21:33
(((the government))) is gonna stop giving us welfare trust me
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
... Fair point actually. I just don't like being a benefits mooch
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 21:33
true, but im just proving that you dont need to be a 6 figure household to raise children
21:34
only people on the internet who live in liberal hellholes or are disconnected from reality ever posit this (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
only people on the internet who live in liberal hellholes or are disconnected from reality ever posit this (edited)
Sogga 09/06/2024 21:34
>people who dont agree with me look like this and say this
21:34
saar
21:36
whatever you're typing mikko, leave it, do something productive, ill learn myself eventually <3 (edited)
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21:36
why were we discussing about antinatalism in the religion channel doe lmao
21:37
oh das rite, cause of me
21:37
oof
Sogga
why were we discussing about antinatalism in the religion channel doe lmao
Мико⚜🐾 09/06/2024 21:37
you posted the reddit link
Мико⚜🐾
you posted the reddit link
Sogga 09/06/2024 21:37
https://discord.com/channels/1213500751045857312/1268558653024243724/1281729921005260912
21:37
saar
21:37
i said it
21:37
before u
21:37
i win
21:37
im gonna go edge now
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 06:44
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 07:33
i dont deserve God's grace
Мико⚜🐾
i dont deserve God's grace
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/07/2024 07:34
How come?
Zoraxe 09/07/2024 07:38
Something up?
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 07:40
just being melodramatic guys
07:40
was thinking back to when i was a teenager
GR 09/07/2024 07:52
real
Мико⚜🐾
i dont deserve God's grace
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/07/2024 08:34
Honestly, none of us do and yet his grace is boundless and is for us all.
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Arcane BOT 09/07/2024 08:34
@Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian has reached level 46. GG!
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 08:37
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian pinned a message to this channel. 09/07/2024 08:39
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/07/2024 08:39
Amen
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/07/2024 09:03
Do you have to explain why you want it if you ask for holy water at a church?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/07/2024 09:07
Uhh I've personally never tried to take the holy water from church.
Extra-sensory PURRception
Do you have to explain why you want it if you ask for holy water at a church?
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 09:10
in some churches yeah, but at mine you can request it from the priest and/or buy it to take home
09:10
to drink, bless the house etc. etc.
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/07/2024 09:10
Okay
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/07/2024 09:10
I should get some holy water and bless my house
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 09:12
on quite a few feast days of the year, they dip this into the blessed water and then flick it onto you, your food, your pets or animals/livestock etc.
09:13
it depends on the day of the year tbf
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/07/2024 09:14
That's an orthodoxy thing though isn't it?
09:14
I don't think my evangelical church does that.
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 09:14
yeah, other people will just sprinkle it with your hand or throw it onto you, which is fine to do as well
09:16
in other churches the water is only preserved for baptism
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/07/2024 09:16
I just remembered
09:16
Mikko
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 09:16
yeah
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/07/2024 09:17
So I was baptised as a baby but my mother doesn't remember the details of my baptism. Speaking to other people they said, so long as your baptism was done under the name of the father, son and holy spirit then you don't need to be baptised again. All I can say for certain is that my baptism most likely took place in the catholic church we used to go to when I was a kid.
09:17
Do I need a baptism?
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Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 09:20
Well, no. if you stay where youre are now, you wont need rebaptism. even if you were to in the future become Orthodox, or return to Catholicism, both would most likely just catechize you and receive you into the church via chrismation. which is basically just anointing you with oil
09:22
Baptism of water, blood, or fruitful desire is necessary for salvation but chrismation is more so a symbol, a mark that is given at a baptism of water
Мико⚜🐾
Well, no. if you stay where youre are now, you wont need rebaptism. even if you were to in the future become Orthodox, or return to Catholicism, both would most likely just catechize you and receive you into the church via chrismation. which is basically just anointing you with oil
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 09:23
they would also make you a "catechumen" for a time too, so you would learn about the life of the church before being fully received in
Мико⚜🐾
Baptism of water, blood, or fruitful desire is necessary for salvation but chrismation is more so a symbol, a mark that is given at a baptism of water
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 09:25
even churches with closed communion hold that almost all baptisms done in the name of the trinity are valid exoterically, although theyre only efficacious after chrismation or entry into the church. (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/07/2024 09:26
I see, I see.
09:27
Also what's your opinion on the evangelist denom?
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 09:34
theyre fine. as an Orthodox catechumen obviously there would be some doctrinal and ecclesiastical disagreements i have, gripes with practice etc. but I still see them as Christians beyond a nominal sense. I dont hold as harsh of an opinion as a few of the online convertodox who fled the Evangelical or Pentecostal church and then sperg out. A lot do have a genuine love for Christ and they contribute a lot to the Christian faith collectively, whether its translating manuscripts and church father works, biblical archeology and their works on the historicity or Christianity. Making this easier for the regular Joe to understand as well (edited)
09:37
Also, bringing people into the faith too, its in the name; 'Evangelical' or 'Evangelist'; theyre great at bringing a lot of people at least to the door of the Christian faith
09:38
Orthodox are great once youre behind the parish doors but its a fact that you don't see any of the priests on the streets doing the same thing. Me and my friends are putting in most of the work in London tryna bring people in
09:40
those would be some of my thoughts @Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Мико⚜🐾
Orthodox are great once youre behind the parish doors but its a fact that you don't see any of the priests on the streets doing the same thing. Me and my friends are putting in most of the work in London tryna bring people in
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/07/2024 09:40
You go around spreading Christianity on the streets?
Extra-sensory PURRception
You go around spreading Christianity on the streets?
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 09:41
not like its a street preacher video on YouTube, but we are working to promote Orthodoxy in the city, create a community (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/07/2024 09:41
Yeah that's fair.
Мико⚜🐾
not like its a street preacher video on YouTube, but we are working to promote Orthodoxy in the city, create a community (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/07/2024 09:42
How do you do it then?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/07/2024 09:42
Have been considering my denomination more and more and I feel I fit the Evangelist glove better than any other denom.
Extra-sensory PURRception
How do you do it then?
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 09:43
go to speakers corner and debate Atheists, Muslims, Jews etc. , scheduled meetups to go to the same liturgy and then eat or hang out after, posting content online
09:43
we have a local (private, in the works) and national (public) discord (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
go to speakers corner and debate Atheists, Muslims, Jews etc. , scheduled meetups to go to the same liturgy and then eat or hang out after, posting content online
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/07/2024 09:44
That's nice (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 09:45
we also have ecumenical dialogue as well, most of us have chatted to people from the Oriental and Catholic churches and we meet with them sometimes
serpente482 09/07/2024 11:06
They gave me a free italian bible
serpente482 09/07/2024 11:15
They are prots
11:15
Weird
11:16
First prots i see irl in my life
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 11:16
ohh yeah, you live in RC land dont you
Мико⚜🐾
ohh yeah, you live in RC land dont you
serpente482 09/07/2024 11:23
Only romanian orthodoxs and catholics
emanuel 09/07/2024 15:50
I got a similar bible that prots gave me too
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2024 15:50
i used to have a gideon bible
15:50
but i gave it to sis
emanuel
I got a similar bible that prots gave me too
serpente482 09/07/2024 17:21
Its an organization
17:21
So random to find
17:22
Today i went to a random village and they were there
17:22
Never saw em in Spain
emanuel 09/07/2024 17:22
they were in my university
Arcane BOT 09/07/2024 17:22
@emanuel has reached level 8. GG!
TwiloThunder✝🇻🇦
that's a thing with liberals. Notice how on twitter their response to someone speaking against current day liberal mindset is gonna be something like "we can smell you from here" (edited)
ungen 09/08/2024 01:07
Currently seeing it happen live
01:08
Bro posted twice in 1 second
01:08
Obsessed manchild award
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 09/08/2024 02:53
What colour had the white horse of Saint Jacob?
02:55
Did he really have a horse? (edited)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What colour had the white horse of Saint Jacob?
serpente482 09/08/2024 02:57
De que color es el caballo blanco de Santiago
serpente482
De que color es el caballo blanco de Santiago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 09/08/2024 02:57
Efentivin wonder
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 06:33
https://youtu.be/6sL7ArCWJbc
harmony
YOUTH OF THE APOCALYPSE
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/08/2024 15:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuDG8GwIDSo
OS X KM street preaching
"HOPE Unshakeable!!" Street Preaching STIRS the Hearts of MANY in ...
1
15:34
I love this preacher he's really good.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/08/2024 15:50
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/luVP6nK_7qM?feature=share
Daily Dose Of Wisdom
THE PROBLEM with Moral Relativism (perfect ending)
1
15:51
Never seen someone get shot down so hard before lmao
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 15:53
now.. if only people online were this honest
NasCar 09/08/2024 15:56
question
15:56
what even is moral relativism?
15:56
is it like
15:56
this guy comitted a crime but it's not as bad because of x y z?
NasCar
what even is moral relativism?
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 15:59
moral relativism is the conclusion that there are no absolute moral truths
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/luVP6nK_7qM?feature=share
Sogga 09/08/2024 15:59
rape is a beautiful thing though
Мико⚜🐾
moral relativism is the conclusion that there are no absolute moral truths
NasCar 09/08/2024 15:59
LMAO
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 15:59
what is seen as moral or immoral is contingent on the individual or society in moral relavitism or subjectivism
NasCar 09/08/2024 16:00
simple counter argument
16:00
"what if I kill you? Is that bad?"
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 16:00
a sophist would reply that it isnt necessarily bad
NasCar
"what if I kill you? Is that bad?"
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/08/2024 16:00
The answer to that would vary
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 16:01
an idiot would say it isnt and give fallacious reasoning
Extra-sensory PURRception
The answer to that would vary
NasCar 09/08/2024 16:01
yeah but then would need to explain it
16:01
and that's how you get them
Мико⚜🐾
an idiot would say it isnt and give fallacious reasoning
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/08/2024 16:01
NasCar
yeah but then would need to explain it
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/08/2024 16:01
I'm sure that there are plenty of explanations
Мико⚜🐾
an idiot would say it isnt and give fallacious reasoning
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 16:02
yesterday i was talking to idiotic secularists on twitter who tried to tell me we can uncover moral truths by observing what leads to the "flourishment of the individual"
16:02
which is what Aristotle taught, apparently
Мико⚜🐾
yesterday i was talking to idiotic secularists on twitter who tried to tell me we can uncover moral truths by observing what leads to the "flourishment of the individual"
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/08/2024 16:02
What's a secularist?
Arcane BOT 09/08/2024 16:02
@Extra-sensory PURRception has reached level 28. GG!
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 16:02
he didnt say that at all
Extra-sensory PURRception
What's a secularist?
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 16:02
type of atheist
Мико⚜🐾
type of atheist
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/08/2024 16:02
What do they belive in?
NasCar 09/08/2024 16:03
they're spreading
Extra-sensory PURRception
What do they belive in?
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 16:03
in nothing
NasCar 09/08/2024 16:03
not even in soyence?
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Мико⚜🐾
in nothing
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/08/2024 16:03
How does it differ from atheism then?
Extra-sensory PURRception
How does it differ from atheism then?
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 16:03
it is atheism, its just a specific label they give themselves
NasCar
not even in soyence?
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 16:03
these guys arent scientific
Мико⚜🐾
it is atheism, its just a specific label they give themselves
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/08/2024 16:04
Oh, I just searched up the definition
16:04
Just people that don't think that the state should be affected by religion
16:04
That's silly
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 16:06
a good chunk of 'science' is just fake imma be for real, a good amount of it is pretty much theories based off of biased observations of the world coloured by philosophy, or literally just ideas stolen 1-to-1 from the Greeks (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception
Just people that don't think that the state should be affected by religion
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 16:07
the idea is that religion bad or something
16:08
but they cant even explain how you can even verify something is bad
Мико⚜🐾
a good chunk of 'science' is just fake imma be for real, a good amount of it is pretty much theories based off of biased observations of the world coloured by philosophy, or literally just ideas stolen 1-to-1 from the Greeks (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/08/2024 16:09
I see most of "science" like this: Many theories being told as truth Manipulated studies/research/statistics Propaganda Censorship of unwanted research Sometimes even complete lies Side note: scientific research on unpopular topics (usually spiritual stuff) is "pseudoscience" (edited)
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Extra-sensory PURRception
I see most of "science" like this: Many theories being told as truth Manipulated studies/research/statistics Propaganda Censorship of unwanted research Sometimes even complete lies Side note: scientific research on unpopular topics (usually spiritual stuff) is "pseudoscience" (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 16:09
a lot of people genuinely believe that we factually came from a primordial blob. when its a theory
16:10
from a neo-Platonist Catholic priest. before the Big Bang Theory, Atheists were out here saying the world was eternal (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
a lot of people genuinely believe that we factually came from a primordial blob. when its a theory
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/08/2024 16:10
They preach it to us as "history/biology" when we're young
1
Extra-sensory PURRception
I see most of "science" like this: Many theories being told as truth Manipulated studies/research/statistics Propaganda Censorship of unwanted research Sometimes even complete lies Side note: scientific research on unpopular topics (usually spiritual stuff) is "pseudoscience" (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 16:11
everybody subscribes to and believes in gender theory and ideology, do you even know of the deranged people who even came up with these ideas
Мико⚜🐾
everybody subscribes to and believes in gender theory and ideology, do you even know of the deranged people who even came up with these ideas
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/08/2024 16:11
I know the people and what they believe
16:11
It's foolish
Мико⚜🐾
everybody subscribes to and believes in gender theory and ideology, do you even know of the deranged people who even came up with these ideas
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2024 16:16
its just blindly followed as gospel
Мико⚜🐾
its just blindly followed as gospel
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/08/2024 16:21
Мико⚜🐾
everybody subscribes to and believes in gender theory and ideology, do you even know of the deranged people who even came up with these ideas
ungen 09/08/2024 22:05
John Money was a baller ass name and it got wasted on a monster (edited)
bongvain 09/08/2024 22:06
proto epstein
ungen
John Money was a baller ass name and it got wasted on a monster (edited)
TwiloThunder✝🇻🇦 09/09/2024 07:59
The name is as jewish as it gets
TwiloThunder✝🇻🇦
The name is as jewish as it gets
Мико⚜🐾 09/09/2024 08:42
true. wikipedia tried to scrub his jewishness but i found a paper from a close friend of his that disclosed that he got into uni on the "10% jewish quota"
08:42
on some affirmative action type ish
ungen 09/09/2024 08:46
So his experiments could've been prevented?
ungen
So his experiments could've been prevented?
Мико⚜🐾 09/09/2024 09:20
yes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/09/2024 18:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a87iaIKgbVg
Jacob Morris
The United Kingdom Will Become a Strong Christian Nation
2
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a87iaIKgbVg
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/09/2024 18:22
Good to see someone spreading hope
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a87iaIKgbVg
Мико⚜🐾 09/09/2024 18:42
yo, i know this guy!
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a87iaIKgbVg
bongvain 09/09/2024 22:41
pray and hope
22:41
taht happens
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 07:40
07:40
Sogga 09/10/2024 13:33
@Мико⚜🐾 will Jesus always be there for us (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 14:35
@Мико⚜🐾 Where is the best place to order a Bible?
14:36
Or should I just buy whatever as long as it's NKJV?
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 14:36
do you have any stores near you?
Мико⚜🐾
do you have any stores near you?
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 14:37
The bookstores near me didn't have the NKJV Bible
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 14:37
which ones did they have
Мико⚜🐾
which ones did they have
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 14:38
I don't rememeber
Extra-sensory PURRception
I don't rememeber
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 14:44
if you dont want to go again check websites for bookstores in your country and then amazon i would recommend a Douay Rheims Catholic Bible or the Orthodox Study Bible over the NKJV, as the former 2 have the deuterocanonical text. these are an additional 7 books declared 'apocryphal' or for home reading only by Protestants then ommitted from most KJVs and NKJV printings beginning in the 1830s to "save money". while the latter still has these books (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
if you dont want to go again check websites for bookstores in your country and then amazon i would recommend a Douay Rheims Catholic Bible or the Orthodox Study Bible over the NKJV, as the former 2 have the deuterocanonical text. these are an additional 7 books declared 'apocryphal' or for home reading only by Protestants then ommitted from most KJVs and NKJV printings beginning in the 1830s to "save money". while the latter still has these books (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 14:45
Oh okay, you recommended the NKJV before though
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 14:45
also, the Douay Rheims and Orthodox Study do not use the Masoretic Text, which is an Old Testament source text from Rabbinical Jews (ew). They use the Greek Septuagint. there are online versions and pdfs for both of these, so you can skim through and see what is your preferred reading
Extra-sensory PURRception
Oh okay, you recommended the NKJV before though
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 14:46
an NKJV New Testament is ok because unlike in the case of the Old Testament
Мико⚜🐾
also, the Douay Rheims and Orthodox Study do not use the Masoretic Text, which is an Old Testament source text from Rabbinical Jews (ew). They use the Greek Septuagint. there are online versions and pdfs for both of these, so you can skim through and see what is your preferred reading
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 14:46
I don't really understand the difference between study Bibles and normal ones
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 14:46
the same manuscripts are generally referenced for the translation
Extra-sensory PURRception
I don't really understand the difference between study Bibles and normal ones
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 14:46
Notes or what?
Мико⚜🐾
an NKJV New Testament is ok because unlike in the case of the Old Testament
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 14:46
So it's the best for the new testament?
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 14:47
the Orthodox Study Bible is just the Greek Old Testament with a New King James New Testament. it has iconography and footnotes on the bottom of the page
14:48
the Douay Rheims is just a plain bible translated from the Latin Vulgate
Extra-sensory PURRception
So it's the best for the new testament?
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 14:48
one of my favourites yeah i either refer to that or the douay rheims
Мико⚜🐾
also, the Douay Rheims and Orthodox Study do not use the Masoretic Text, which is an Old Testament source text from Rabbinical Jews (ew). They use the Greek Septuagint. there are online versions and pdfs for both of these, so you can skim through and see what is your preferred reading
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 14:49
I'll take a look at the PDFs
Мико⚜🐾
the Douay Rheims is just a plain bible translated from the Latin Vulgate
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 14:49
Both old and new testament?
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 14:49
yup
Мико⚜🐾
also, the Douay Rheims and Orthodox Study do not use the Masoretic Text, which is an Old Testament source text from Rabbinical Jews (ew). They use the Greek Septuagint. there are online versions and pdfs for both of these, so you can skim through and see what is your preferred reading
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 14:50
What's wrong with the Masoretic Text?
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 14:58
the 'Masoretic Text', or the Hebrew Bible, is the result of the effort by a group of Rabbinical Jews or the 'Maoretes' during the 6th to the 10th century. It was an effort by them to reproduce the "original" text of the Hebrew Old Testament, with the contemporary innovations of the Hebrew language of that time in order to make it easier to read while still preserving their culture. (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 15:03
@Мико⚜🐾 So if I want them separate I should buy these?
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 15:07
the Septuagint was originally a Greek translation of the Torah from the Paleo-Hebrew (not the Masoretic) commissioned by King Plotemy in the 3rd Century BC. by the time of Jesus and the early Church however, the Septuagint began to also mean the rest of the Greek translation of the Hebrew Text.
Arcane BOT 09/10/2024 15:07
@Мико⚜🐾 has reached level 64. GG!
Мико⚜🐾
the Septuagint was originally a Greek translation of the Torah from the Paleo-Hebrew (not the Masoretic) commissioned by King Plotemy in the 3rd Century BC. by the time of Jesus and the early Church however, the Septuagint began to also mean the rest of the Greek translation of the Hebrew Text.
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 15:07
this was what the Apostle Paul and the early Church opted to use
15:08
we know there was a Hebrew text compiled around this time, however this was lost. which is why the Rabbinics recompiled it with what was available to them (edited)
15:10
while the MT is still accurate, i hold the Septuagint to be more reliable because its what the second temple Jews and the early Christians used, no Church Fathers affirmed the use of the Hebrew manuscripts from the Jews of their time, there are also numerical differences between the MT and the Septuagint and also scribal errors in the MT that arent in the Sept
Мико⚜🐾
while the MT is still accurate, i hold the Septuagint to be more reliable because its what the second temple Jews and the early Christians used, no Church Fathers affirmed the use of the Hebrew manuscripts from the Jews of their time, there are also numerical differences between the MT and the Septuagint and also scribal errors in the MT that arent in the Sept
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 15:10
Okay
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 15:11
also, while there isnt any contradiction between the texts, verses read a bit differently between the two and what becomes apparent in the Septuagint is not there in the Masoretic anymore
15:11
Isaiah 7:14 or Psalm 22:30 would be some that come to mind (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception
@Мико⚜🐾 So if I want them separate I should buy these?
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 15:12
if it ends up being cheaper then thats what you want to get, you can sometimes find used books (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 16:05
@Мико⚜🐾 KJV is the same as NKJV but with a bit older English, right?
Extra-sensory PURRception
@Мико⚜🐾 KJV is the same as NKJV but with a bit older English, right?
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 16:47
yes, pretty much
Мико⚜🐾
yes, pretty much
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/10/2024 17:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3sUGlk0wRA
Towards Jesus
Christian SHOWS SHOCKING PROOF That Muslims TODAY WORSHIP Baal AKA ...
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3sUGlk0wRA
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 18:06
Is he using a filter or is he AI generated?
18:10
Nahhh, this has to be AI generated
Extra-sensory PURRception
Nahhh, this has to be AI generated
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/10/2024 18:15
You have autism
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
You have autism
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 18:16
Look at him, what do you mean???
18:16
Just look at him
18:17
There are times at which his eyes go through his hands in the video
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/10/2024 18:17
Pretty sure it's just the video quality bro
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 18:17
Nah
18:17
He's using some AI shit on his face
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 18:17
this is a livestream clip
Extra-sensory PURRception
He's using some AI shit on his face
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 18:18
it might be an ai cam (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
it might be an ai cam (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 18:18
Yeah
18:18
Why is he using that though?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/10/2024 18:18
If I had to guess
18:18
Because Muslims go out of their way to kill blasphemers?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Because Muslims go out of their way to kill blasphemers?
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 18:19
His old videos don't seem to be visually altered in any way
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/10/2024 18:19
Why are you being this autistic? The content of the video is what matters.
18:20
Is he spitting facts? If yes, idc about the rest.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3sUGlk0wRA
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 18:22
"Muhammad" was not the original name of the Prophet Islamic sources state his name was "Qutham ibn-Abdal'lat"
18:23
"ibn-Ad al'lat" meaning son of the slave of "Al-Lat" (edited)
18:23
a pre-Islamic pagan goddess and daughter of Hubal
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Is he spitting facts? If yes, idc about the rest.
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/10/2024 18:25
I guess that most of it makes sense
Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2024 18:25
the name "Muhammad" is a derivative of the title "Mhmd" or "praised one" So after the start of his prophethood, he essentially changed his getup
18:28
but they will never tell you about this lol
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/10/2024 22:19
Luke 6:42
BibleBot BOT 09/10/2024 22:19
Luke 6:42 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<42> Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,' when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother's eye.
Мико⚜🐾 09/11/2024 03:06
2 Corinthians 3:17 DRA
BibleBot BOT 09/11/2024 03:06
2 Corinthians 3:17 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<17> Now the Lord is a Spirit. And where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/11/2024 17:34
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Мико⚜🐾 09/11/2024 17:36
they didnt even let him (the Noahide) become a Jew (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/11/2024 17:43
OY FUCKING VEY
Extra-sensory PURRception
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bongvain 09/11/2024 20:03
>we are literally like jesus actually genuinely we suffer fo u start boiling in shit then
bongvain
>we are literally like jesus actually genuinely we suffer fo u start boiling in shit then
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/11/2024 20:04
Holy kek
bongvain 09/11/2024 20:05
they need to take a W
20:05
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20:05
atleast 1
20:05
before going full satanic cult mode
20:05
by like 2040
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/12/2024 18:18
@Мико⚜🐾 I ordered The Orthodox Study Bible today
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Мико⚜🐾 09/12/2024 18:18
based
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/12/2024 18:19
And it'll probably arrive tomorrow or on Monday.
Мико⚜🐾 09/12/2024 18:19
cool, hopefully it comes tommorow
18:24
i pray it edifies you the notes are pretty decent for commentary, sometimes it quotes saints, other times its just footnotes from the translators
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/12/2024 18:24
I probably won't start reading that soon though since I have some other shit that I have to read
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Мико⚜🐾 09/12/2024 18:24
fair enough
Мико⚜🐾
i pray it edifies you the notes are pretty decent for commentary, sometimes it quotes saints, other times its just footnotes from the translators
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/12/2024 18:25
Okay
18:25
BTW, I'm referring to this one
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GR 09/12/2024 19:00
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serpente482 09/13/2024 00:55
I may do confirmation soon
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00:56
Friend who is in a christian group said he will talk to them about me to include me in taht when he goes
00:56
God bless beingg drunk
00:57
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/13/2024 07:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gYVbK4kP2A
CBN News
Iran's Jesus Revolution? Mosques Close as 1 Million Muslims Accept ...
07:07
>have islamic state >forces people to abide by the quran >accidentally make people realise how bullshit it is >accidentally turn thousands towards Christ
07:07
serpente482
Friend who is in a christian group said he will talk to them about me to include me in taht when he goes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/13/2024 07:08
Hallelujah brother
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Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 07:53
'No one is truly poor but except the one who lacks the truth.'
`St. Ephraim the Syrian` (edited)
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Мико⚜🐾
'No one is truly poor but except the one who lacks the truth.'
`St. Ephraim the Syrian` (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/13/2024 10:00
Good quote
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/13/2024 13:34
@Мико⚜🐾 Some lols for you my friend.
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Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 13:35
Ali is not equal to Allah in any sect of Shia Islam
13:35
including even Ismaili
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/13/2024 13:37
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Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 13:38
ask him why eternity in Jannah is worse than pre-existence in Islam (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/13/2024 13:39
Ask me this instead Mikko
13:39
What are among some of the punishments for people who run away from North Korea?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 Some lols for you my friend.
Sogga 09/13/2024 13:39
thank you for including me
Sogga
thank you for including me
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/13/2024 13:39
Love you bby xoxox
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
What are among some of the punishments for people who run away from North Korea?
Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 13:40
prison camp, torture, death penalty
13:40
it depends
Мико⚜🐾
prison camp, torture, death penalty
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/13/2024 13:40
Okay and what is the punishment for fleeing, idk, somewhere like Germany or Italy?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
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Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 13:40
Muslims convert to Christianity immediately after apostasy more than any other religion
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NasCar 09/13/2024 13:40
Euro moment
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Okay and what is the punishment for fleeing, idk, somewhere like Germany or Italy?
Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 13:41
usually extradition
13:41
then you serve a few more years for escaping
13:41
+ the time you had left
Мико⚜🐾
usually extradition
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/13/2024 13:41
Would it then be fair to say that based on this, Germany/Italy would be "just" and that North Korea would be a dictatorship?
Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 13:42
yes
13:42
at the very least North Korea would be in err for such a harsh punishment
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/13/2024 13:43
If Christians generally speaking simply mourn someone leaving Christianity and pray for them to find the light. And if Muslims generally speaking ostracize and even kill you for leaving Islam. Is it then fair to say that one is "just" and abiding by law and the other is a dictatorship that forces people to stay within or be killed?
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 Some lols for you my friend.
Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 13:46
also he holds a double standard
13:47
he has repeatedly tried to use negative things attributed to Protestants and Roman Catholics to attack my position
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/13/2024 13:52
Who da fuck is this guy and how is he somehow worse at debating that Euro
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Who da fuck is this guy and how is he somehow worse at debating that Euro
Sogga 09/13/2024 13:52
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/13/2024 13:55
This guy is actually somehow worse than Euro. And Euro sprung him on me to argue in his place, lmao.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/13/2024 14:04
>euro spouting more idiocy >about to type a response >realise he never concedes to being wrong and I'd be wasting my time throwing words into a void for no reason >remove what I was typing and go back to playing vidya
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
>euro spouting more idiocy >about to type a response >realise he never concedes to being wrong and I'd be wasting my time throwing words into a void for no reason >remove what I was typing and go back to playing vidya
Sogga 09/13/2024 14:06
you realized that now???
14:06
wow
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Who da fuck is this guy and how is he somehow worse at debating that Euro
Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 14:06
can he prove Islamic morality is better than Christian morality without being circular (edited)
14:06
he can be like "ohh why are you imposing Christian morality onto Islam"
14:06
well why not, we're comparing worldviews
14:08
can you justify why it would be superior to kill apostates and non-people of the Book, instead of trying to convince them to come back, without immediately going back to "because Islam says so"
14:08
the Qur'an doesnt have the apostasy law anywhere in it furthermore, can he prove that its not an Uthmanic or post-Uthmanic innovation? no
Sogga 09/13/2024 14:09
being born into some strict islamic family has to be hell
14:09
no bacon??? no way
14:09
am killing myself instead
Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 14:10
Islamic morality is in ignorance of the natural world, advances in the sciences and implicit divine revelation, being guided by the Holy Spirit gradually into all truth. there isnt even a Holy Spirit in Islam (edited)
14:10
You have to as a Muslim say its completely ethical for me to ravage a 4 year old because of the age old standard of pubic hair and period blood
Мико⚜🐾
You have to as a Muslim say its completely ethical for me to ravage a 4 year old because of the age old standard of pubic hair and period blood
Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 14:11
we can see this standard being held to in al-Bukhari beyond in the context of "consummation of marriage", better yet, child rape and abuse.
14:12
the same standard is applied for the Banu Qurayza boys, or "men" by the eternal standard of Islam, when we see all boys with even a single pubic hair being beheaded for no other reason than them being Jews.
Мико⚜🐾
the same standard is applied for the Banu Qurayza boys, or "men" by the eternal standard of Islam, when we see all boys with even a single pubic hair being beheaded for no other reason than them being Jews.
Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 14:13
why did Muhammad kill an entire tribe of surrendering Jews, why were they not subjugated as per 9:29? its because the Prophet does not follow his own moral code (edited)
Sogga
am killing myself instead
Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 14:14
its legalism all for nothing, because even if youre the worst Muslim ever, as long as you still affirm tahwid in your last breath (which Allah predestined) you go to Jannah eventually (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
its legalism all for nothing, because even if youre the worst Muslim ever, as long as you still affirm tahwid in your last breath (which Allah predestined) you go to Jannah eventually (edited)
Sogga 09/13/2024 14:15
always wondered why they said allahu akbar lmao
14:15
we never had Christian suicide bombers right
Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 14:16
Jahannam is not eternal for Muslims
Sogga
we never had Christian suicide bombers right
Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 14:16
no
Sogga 09/13/2024 14:18
Christianity will become something like the jedi order in the far future lmao
14:19
monastic clothing, ancient teachings, magic
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Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 14:19
we already have that lol
Sogga 09/13/2024 14:20
do you believe in the rapture
Мико⚜🐾 09/13/2024 14:21
no, its heresy
Sogga 09/13/2024 14:26
the rapture in 2100: >1/3rd plant life gone, no plant life to begin with >1/3rd of sea turned into blood and all ships sink, sea is bloody anyway from the corpses of dead factory workers >1/3rd of water turns undrinkable, we had no sustainable water sources to begin with lmao >1/3rd of galactic shit doesnt shine, not an issue when all lights are artificial >evil locusts or something, people would resort to eating them instead >1/3rd of mankind dead, wont matter since death is too common now >kingdom of God declared, everyone would rather go back to work a corporate job (edited)
Blackdog 09/14/2024 14:28
how yall feel about this
Мико⚜🐾 09/14/2024 14:28
i mean, thats always been the reading of that commandment
Blackdog
how yall feel about this
NasCar 09/14/2024 14:29
true
Мико⚜🐾 09/14/2024 14:29
the killing of someone can be justified murder is a killing that is not justified (edited)
NasCar 09/14/2024 14:29
killing someone in self defense can be justified
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Blackdog 09/14/2024 14:29
Мико⚜🐾
the killing of someone can be justified murder is a killing that is not justified (edited)
Sogga 09/14/2024 14:29
what if you murder the antichrist
NasCar 09/14/2024 14:29
while killing because why not cannot
Sogga
what if you murder the antichrist
Мико⚜🐾 09/14/2024 14:29
there are many antichrists
14:30
do you mean the antichrist or one of his spirit
Sogga 09/14/2024 14:30
meant the multiple itterations of them, people like emperor nero
14:30
evil people generally
14:31
who inflict suffering
NasCar 09/14/2024 14:32
guess it also falls under self defense
Blackdog
how yall feel about this
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/14/2024 15:58
If killing is a sin then the pre-Christ people who sacrificed animals for God broke a commandment.
Мико⚜🐾 09/14/2024 16:32
https://youtu.be/80iG8nI4Ad4
The Orthodox Experience
St Paisios on Anxiety and Simplifying Life
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mien master 09/14/2024 20:14
Psalms 139:15-17 "My bones were not hidden from you When I was made in secret, When I was woven in the depths of the earth. 16 Your eyes even saw me as an embryo; All its parts were written in your book Regarding the days when they were formed, Before any of them existed. 17 So to me, how precious your thoughts are! O God, how vast is the sum of them!"
BibleBot BOT 09/14/2024 20:14
Psalm 139:15-17 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<15> my frame was not hidden from thee, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth. <16> Thy eyes beheld my unformed substance; in thy book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them. <17> How precious to me are thy thoughts, O God! How vast is the sum of them!
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mien master 09/14/2024 20:15
what will happen to these governments who allow baby murder and homosexuality and other deplorable acts?
20:17
2 Thessalonians 1:6-8 "This takes into account that it is righteous on God’s part to repay tribulation to those who make tribulation for you. 7 But you who suffer tribulation will be given relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels 8 in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance on those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus."
BibleBot BOT 09/14/2024 20:17
2 Thessalonians 1:6-8 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<6> since indeed God deems it just to repay with affliction those who afflict you, <7> and to grant rest with us to you who are afflicted, when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire, <8> inflicting vengeance upon those who do not know God and upon those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.
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mien master 09/14/2024 20:20
Daniel 2:44 “In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever,"
BibleBot BOT 09/14/2024 20:20
Daniel 2:44 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<44> And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed, nor shall its sovereignty be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand for ever;
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mien master 09/14/2024 20:27
i was thinking of doing bible studies here for those who want to learn more about god and religion
20:28
so if anyone is interested in serious bible discussions let me know (edited)
mien master
so if anyone is interested in serious bible discussions let me know (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/14/2024 20:30
Maybe sometime in the future
Extra-sensory PURRception
Maybe sometime in the future
mien master 09/14/2024 22:24
nice remember the bible tells us to keep asking questions
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mien master
so if anyone is interested in serious bible discussions let me know (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 09/14/2024 23:09
i am forever down dude
23:09
I love talking scripture
mien master
Psalms 139:15-17 "My bones were not hidden from you When I was made in secret, When I was woven in the depths of the earth. 16 Your eyes even saw me as an embryo; All its parts were written in your book Regarding the days when they were formed, Before any of them existed. 17 So to me, how precious your thoughts are! O God, how vast is the sum of them!"
Мико⚜🐾 09/14/2024 23:10
thank you for this beautiful quote
Sogga 09/15/2024 01:52
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/15/2024 05:18
Some religious trauma is just and with those people, we Christians need to exercise patience. But yes most of the time religious trauma is being forced to go to Sunday mass
Sogga
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Мико⚜🐾 09/15/2024 06:26
As someone with actual 'religious trauma' that i overcame, these people are jokes
06:29
"my mum and dad were bad practicioners of the faith... i went to a bad 'church' growing up (whole time its the Pentecostal Synod of Billy Bob), therefore atheism is true"
06:31
my mother was literally convinced for 2 years that she was the bride of Jesus in Revelation. She literally believed for some time that she was a goddess. Yet these guys cry about going to Sunday School
Мико⚜🐾
my mother was literally convinced for 2 years that she was the bride of Jesus in Revelation. She literally believed for some time that she was a goddess. Yet these guys cry about going to Sunday School
Мико⚜🐾 09/15/2024 06:33
my mum temporarily losing her mind through religion does not make Atheism any less of an incoherent worldview that cant even empirically prove that one isnt living purely in a projection of his own psyche or in an illusion, let alone the supposed truth "there is no God"
06:38
my personal poor anecdotal experience, it doesnt suddenly make said belief true, nor does it make Christianity false. i realized this at 13 years old while i was being abused, these guys are in their 20s and 30s acting this way
06:45
through all of that I became Orthodox at 18. im truly at home. these guys are still trapped in a mental prison of their own making (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
through all of that I became Orthodox at 18. im truly at home. these guys are still trapped in a mental prison of their own making (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 09/15/2024 07:00
op is 24 btw
Мико⚜🐾
As someone with actual 'religious trauma' that i overcame, these people are jokes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/15/2024 07:58
Can I share your rant with a friend?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Can I share your rant with a friend?
Мико⚜🐾 09/15/2024 07:59
feel free
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Мико⚜🐾
feel free
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/15/2024 08:02
Sorry to ask brother but what were some of the experiences you had involving you mum? If it's too painful to recollect I understand
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Sorry to ask brother but what were some of the experiences you had involving you mum? If it's too painful to recollect I understand
Мико⚜🐾 09/15/2024 08:14
frequent physical and emotional abuse, forced social hermitage for months on end, enstrangement from extended and immediate family, mocked and humiliated repeatedly (in front of little sis at times, who was 9 yrs old) for my then hopeless addiction to fantasy porn, confiscation of even books for reading and art supplies at times. kicked out of house while still dark outside, days without food (edited)
08:14
thats what i can remember
Sogga 09/15/2024 08:15
how come we all grew up with such disgusting family members
Sogga
how come we all grew up with such disgusting family members
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/15/2024 08:18
That's the question of all time huh.
Мико⚜🐾
frequent physical and emotional abuse, forced social hermitage for months on end, enstrangement from extended and immediate family, mocked and humiliated repeatedly (in front of little sis at times, who was 9 yrs old) for my then hopeless addiction to fantasy porn, confiscation of even books for reading and art supplies at times. kicked out of house while still dark outside, days without food (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/15/2024 08:18
Damn, sorry brother
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Damn, sorry brother
Мико⚜🐾 09/15/2024 08:20
its fine, i got through it
08:21
not everyone is as graced as me. frankly i shouldnt be here
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/15/2024 08:24
The worst of my experience is my mum trying to forcefully wash my mouth with soap for using the Lord's name in vain
08:25
That and being shouted at. A lot.
Sogga 09/15/2024 08:36
to think you'd still remain faithful to your religion after all that
Мико⚜🐾 09/15/2024 08:47
bad personal experience doesnt change the fact that a godless existence is an absurd one
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Sogga 09/15/2024 18:27
https://x.com/DewEnjoyer/status/1835229948128137473 follow up
Rel (RobotFucker) (@DewEnjoyer) on X
The priest who baptised me later went on to sexually assault a kid so
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@Мико⚜🐾 could xhe be lying o algo
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Xbox360hoodmoments 09/15/2024 22:22
OOOoOoOooOoOoO self accountability and morals !!!!!!!!
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Sogga
https://x.com/DewEnjoyer/status/1835229948128137473 follow up
Xbox360hoodmoments 09/15/2024 22:23
See they’ll say this but then completely separate pedos from the trans community ((((even if they were an ultra trans activist)))
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Sogga
https://x.com/DewEnjoyer/status/1835229948128137473 follow up
Мико⚜🐾 09/16/2024 02:56
what was the sexuality of the priest
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Мико⚜🐾 09/16/2024 11:41
https://vxtwitter.com/OrthoMemeSquad/status/1835469962686636362
Twitter
Orthodox Meme Squad (@OrthoMemeSquad)
From a scene in Breaking Bad episode 2x11
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/16/2024 13:52
@Мико⚜🐾 The Bible arrived
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13:52
I'm still waiting for the three other books that I ordered though (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception
I'm still waiting for the three other books that I ordered though (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 09/16/2024 13:53
i see, what other books did you get?
Мико⚜🐾
i see, what other books did you get?
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/16/2024 13:54
Three very rare books about alchemy and hermeticism
Extra-sensory PURRception
Three very rare books about alchemy and hermeticism
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/16/2024 13:55
360 copies, 500 copies and 700 copies total printed
Sogga 09/16/2024 13:55
@Мико⚜🐾 what bible do you recommend
Extra-sensory PURRception
360 copies, 500 copies and 700 copies total printed
Мико⚜🐾 09/16/2024 13:56
ohh damn, lucky you
Мико⚜🐾
ohh damn, lucky you
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/16/2024 13:58
Esoteric books are expensive though, I can barely afford these
Sogga
@Мико⚜🐾 what bible do you recommend
Мико⚜🐾 09/16/2024 13:58
Orthodox Study Bible or Douay Rheims Catholic Bible. read the PDFs for both of them, theyre free online, and choose which one you prefer the reading of. theyre as good as you can get tbh
Extra-sensory PURRception
Esoteric books are expensive though, I can barely afford these
Мико⚜🐾 09/16/2024 13:58
i can imagine
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/16/2024 13:59
@Мико⚜🐾 Have you read anything about occultism?
Мико⚜🐾 09/16/2024 14:07
ive read about Obeah, which is African magic popular in Jamaica from first hand sources along with Indian occultism, Fr. Seraphim Rose commentates on it extensively in his book "Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future". Loosely familiar with Goetia as well
Мико⚜🐾
ive read about Obeah, which is African magic popular in Jamaica from first hand sources along with Indian occultism, Fr. Seraphim Rose commentates on it extensively in his book "Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future". Loosely familiar with Goetia as well
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/16/2024 14:10
Goetia is interesting, I've never heard about Obeah though
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/16/2024 19:34
I might start reading the Bible tomorrow.
Мико⚜🐾 09/16/2024 19:43
great stuff
19:43
i recommend Ecclesiastes or the Gospel of John as your first read, but you do you man
Мико⚜🐾
i recommend Ecclesiastes or the Gospel of John as your first read, but you do you man
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/17/2024 06:05
I'll just read it from the beginning
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Мико⚜🐾 09/17/2024 06:06
bett
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/17/2024 18:12
Luke 6:42
BibleBot BOT 09/17/2024 18:12
Luke 6:42 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<42> Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,' when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother's eye.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/17/2024 18:15
Literally me. My autistic ass which no one could realistically love but Jesus still loves me.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Literally me. My autistic ass which no one could realistically love but Jesus still loves me.
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/17/2024 18:16
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Мико⚜🐾 09/17/2024 18:17
true, i ought to watch myself regarding when I judge others
18:17
there isnt always a clear line between righteous judgement and being judgemental
18:17
calling out evil and being a Pharisee
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/17/2024 18:17
Do not judge least you be judged with the same arm that ye judge. (edited)
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18:18
Or something to that affect.
18:18
But hey no one said it's easy not to judge others.
Мико⚜🐾 09/17/2024 18:18
https://youtu.be/BnuH4jf6t3o
Father Spyridon
THE MEASURE BY WHICH GOD WILL JUDGE US
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/17/2024 18:18
You see Haitians eating dogs and the cats and they're eating people's pets in Springfield? Yeah it's hard not to judge that.
18:19
@Мико⚜🐾 #🎺announcements :3
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Do not judge least you be judged with the same arm that ye judge. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 09/17/2024 18:19
truth. in fact i would be judged to a greater standard given that im professing to be in truth
Мико⚜🐾 09/18/2024 07:54
'We are forbidden even to witness the shows of gladiators, so that we do not become partakers and abettors of murders. Nor may we see the other spectacles, lest our eyes and ears be defiled, participating in the utterances they sing there. For if one should speak of cannibalism, in these spectacles the children of Theyestes and Terus are eaten. As for adultery – both in the case of men and gods… this is made the subject of their dramas. But far be it from Christians to conceive any such deeds. For with them temperance dwells, self-restraint is practiced, monogamy is observed, chastity is guarded, iniquity exterminated, sin extirpated, righteousness exercised, law administered, worship performed, God acknowledged. Truth governs, grace guards, peace screens them. The holy word guides, wisdom teaches, life directs, God reigns. '
`St. Theophilus, Patriarch of Antioch, Letter to Autolycus (3, 15)`
Mitochondrial Eve 09/19/2024 17:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cCgxANu41E
Altrusian Grace Media
The Bardo Thodol - The Tibetan Book Of The Dead - Full Audiobook wi...
17:02
https://www.youtube.com/live/IJ_C8wPMuDM?si=yVg2YieIxWoyygxw
Church of the Eternal Logos
Christ the Eternal Tao: Logos Theology and Taoism (Sponsored Stream)
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Mitochondrial Eve 09/19/2024 17:25
@Мико⚜🐾
Mitochondrial Eve
@Мико⚜🐾
Sogga 09/19/2024 17:26
no more buddhist antartic wahh
Mitochondrial Eve 09/19/2024 17:26
Ahaha
Sogga 09/19/2024 17:26
Mitochondrial Eve
@Мико⚜🐾
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/19/2024 17:27
I'd consider this to be true
Mitochondrial Eve
@Мико⚜🐾
Мико⚜🐾 09/19/2024 17:28
and he would be right
Mitochondrial Eve 09/19/2024 17:28
Lust tends to hurt others more than you
Sogga 09/19/2024 17:28
arguably greed did the most damage to the world
Mitochondrial Eve 09/19/2024 17:29
Stop being so anti semetic sogga
Mitochondrial Eve
Stop being so anti semetic sogga
Sogga 09/19/2024 17:29
how did you know already
Мико⚜🐾 09/19/2024 17:29
it can be the least serious sin but has the potential to be the most serious and damaging (edited)
Sogga
arguably greed did the most damage to the world
Мико⚜🐾 09/19/2024 17:29
greed is just another form of lust, albeit not one that is sexual
Мико⚜🐾
greed is just another form of lust, albeit not one that is sexual
Sogga 09/19/2024 17:29
Mitochondrial Eve
Lust tends to hurt others more than you
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/19/2024 17:30
I think that it hurts both, who is hurt more depends strongly on the situation
Sogga 09/19/2024 17:31
@Мико⚜🐾 what are your thoughts on freemasonry
Mitochondrial Eve 09/19/2024 17:31
>what are your toughs on child sacrifices
Mitochondrial Eve
>what are your toughs on child sacrifices
Sogga 09/19/2024 17:32
thats jewish hospitals
Sogga
@Мико⚜🐾 what are your thoughts on freemasonry
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/19/2024 17:32
About that, I found out that George Washington was a freemason today
Мико⚜🐾 09/19/2024 17:32
I despise freemasonry
Mitochondrial Eve 09/19/2024 17:32
Every 20th/21st century religion (edited)
17:32
Gets worse and worse
17:32
Barely even religions
Sogga 09/19/2024 17:32
islam is not 20th century yet its getting debated a lot anout now lmao
Mitochondrial Eve 09/19/2024 17:33
More scams n cults
Mitochondrial Eve
More scams n cults
Sogga 09/19/2024 17:33
jim sogga jones
Sogga
islam is not 20th century yet its getting debated a lot anout now lmao
Mitochondrial Eve 09/19/2024 17:33
Islam wont tell you to drink the kool aids
17:33
Or asxend with aliens
Mitochondrial Eve
Barely even religions
Мико⚜🐾 09/19/2024 17:33
theyre not religions, theyre just poor attempts to solve worldly issues and run away from the impending nihilism (edited)
Mitochondrial Eve 09/19/2024 17:33
Mitochondrial Eve
Or asxend with aliens
Sogga 09/19/2024 17:33
Mitochondrial Eve 09/19/2024 17:33
Its what happen when you dont get jnto politics
17:33
You make your own cult
Мико⚜🐾 09/19/2024 17:33
Seraphim Rose makes a great case for it in his book on Nihilism (edited)
Sogga 09/19/2024 17:35
im gonna form a jedi cult and pretend to use the force on paid actors so i can get followers to do my dirty work lel
17:35
am not that petty
Мико⚜🐾 09/19/2024 17:35
this post-20th century "new religions" and "spiritualities" are just reactionary movements that are an expose of the state of modern man (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
I despise freemasonry
Мико⚜🐾 09/19/2024 17:36
it is the new Gnosticism. and theyre perrenialists (edited)
17:36
and you find that these recent perrenialists always hate Christianity and see it as a "low truth" (edited)
Sogga 09/19/2024 17:36
robert wadlow was a freemason aint that crazy
Мико⚜🐾 09/19/2024 17:37
Vivekananda comes to mind
Мико⚜🐾
it is the new Gnosticism. and theyre perrenialists (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/19/2024 17:38
Why do you consider Gnosticism to be bad?
Extra-sensory PURRception
Why do you consider Gnosticism to be bad?
Мико⚜🐾 09/19/2024 18:21
With Gnosticism, you not only have a condemnation of matter as evil or lesser, you have a rejection of a "moral life", a rejection of "virtue", and an embrace of "everything and anything". Things like the the "10 Commandments" and the "5 precepts" are seen to be posited by the unenlightened man or the evil creator god of the material world, the "Demiurge", to enslave man and keep him blinded. As one who has "achieved enlightenment" through "gnosis" or is seeking it, all becomes permissible because you are now, in the point of view of the Gnostic, "beyond" what is arbitrarily set as good and evil by such parties. You can decide, in your pride, what is your morality. "Nothing is true, everything is permitted", as Nietzsche echoes Dostoevsky in Thus Spake Zoroaster. It is a flight from reality, the created order and meaning, into a mental fantasy in which you become your own god as you run away or become awakened to the "world". Like Neo in the Matrix. This is antithetical to Orthodoxy because when Christ "enters" into the world, becomes incarnate and takes on flesh permanently through the hypostatic union, this is an affirmation of the material world and a refutation of the Gnostic notion. God did not send His Son to set us free from the material world, He sent Him to restore it and raise us up to Him. This is an idea those influenced by Gnostic teaching cannot stomach. Another gripe I would have is that the way you are saved in the Gnostic's point of view is essentially via your pursuit of knowledge and your pursuit of knowledge alone. You learn a fact one day through private meditation and it "awakens" you, there is no set works-based or faith-based salvation, you are essentially a complete liberal relativist in your incoherent approach. What do you do to get out, given that there is more than 1 "Gnosticism"? Do you abandon all morality, abuse yourself through extreme ascetism, or use ritual magic? Contrast this with my worldview, it was the pursuit of unnecessary gnosis because we thought it would make us God that caused the Fall in Eden. And we would have a clear, unambiguous framework on how 1 would reach union with God. (edited)
18:24
sorry if i rambled
Мико⚜🐾
sorry if i rambled
Extra-sensory PURRception 09/19/2024 18:24
Thanks for you answer man
Мико⚜🐾 09/20/2024 09:40
proverbs 30:3-4 DRA
BibleBot BOT 09/20/2024 09:40
Proverbs 30:3-4 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<3> I have not learned wisdom, and have not known the science of saints. <4> Who hath ascended up into heaven, and descended? who hath held the wind in his hands? who hath bound up the waters together as in a garment? who hath raised up all the borders of the earth? what is his name, and what is the name of his son, if thou knowest?
Sogga 09/20/2024 21:08
Matthew 5:44
BibleBot BOT 09/20/2024 21:08
Matthew 5:44 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<44> But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
Мико⚜🐾 09/21/2024 08:47
https://youtu.be/GfH5JzcDqXM
Release - Topic
Bless the Lord, O my Soul
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/21/2024 18:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njTG4bQQH9g
Wise Disciple
Ex-Muslim: THIS Is the Way to Share Christ! | Pastor Reacts
18:28
Muslims make the best Christians
18:29
They carry that enthusiasm and committment from Islam into Christianity.
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Mitochondrial Eve 09/22/2024 23:31
https://youtu.be/Z-H4lEDJuOQ?si=c8EH41Un19cT6joH
Daniel Mackler
Why I Don’t Recommend Forgiveness -- A Psychological Analysis
_wf 09/23/2024 18:42
Isaiah 43:25
BibleBot BOT 09/23/2024 18:42
Isaiah 43:25 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<25> "I, I am He who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins.
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Мико⚜🐾 09/23/2024 19:14
the-language-of-creation-cosmic-symbolism-in-genesis-a-commentary_compress_1.pdf
13.04 MB
Sogga 09/23/2024 22:04
John 15:18
BibleBot BOT 09/23/2024 22:04
John 15:18 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
The World's Hatred
<18> "If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you.
ungen 09/24/2024 05:17
What is the moral approach against incest? Currently dealing with a gooner 'tard that claims it's only wrong from a biological reproductive standpoint. (edited)
ungen
What is the moral approach against incest? Currently dealing with a gooner 'tard that claims it's only wrong from a biological reproductive standpoint. (edited)
Sogga 09/24/2024 05:22
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience
ungen
What is the moral approach against incest? Currently dealing with a gooner 'tard that claims it's only wrong from a biological reproductive standpoint. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 09/24/2024 05:55
sex and procreation are not meant to be disconnected, that was done in the West and developed Far East through the unnatural and disastrous "sexual revolution" (edited)
05:55
"You will know them by their fruits" as Christ says
05:56
just because we have invented ways to circumvent bearing the terrible fruits such as inbred children
Мико⚜🐾
"You will know them by their fruits" as Christ says
Sogga 09/24/2024 05:56
just wait till the "wincest" nigga says he doesnt believe in religion
05:56
‍♂️
Мико⚜🐾 09/24/2024 05:56
it doesnt suddenly change the fact that God encoded His divine language into all of creation (edited)
Sogga
just wait till the "wincest" nigga says he doesnt believe in religion
Мико⚜🐾 09/24/2024 05:57
you can deny religion but youd still ultimately have to accept that "You will know them by their fruit" is an indisputable piece of advice
05:58
the fruits of homosexuality are disease, mental and physical strife and death its the same for incest
05:58
Romans 1:19-20 DRA
BibleBot BOT 09/24/2024 05:58
Romans 1:19-20 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<19> Because that which is known of God is manifest in them. For God hath manifested it unto them. <20> For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; his eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable.
ungen 09/24/2024 07:03
On second thought, I have determined that asking how to argue against the degenerate was foolish, as they are evidently incapable of any form of moral thought. (edited)
07:04
I did however learn a lot from this. Thanks again, chat.
ungen
I did however learn a lot from this. Thanks again, chat.
Sogga 09/24/2024 08:17
the pleasure is all ours
Мико⚜🐾 09/24/2024 10:08
great Carolingian icon of Christ, found in the Vivian Bible (845). Commissioned by Count Vivian of Tours, for King Charles the Bald
10:09
10:09
also depicts the 4 writers of the Gospels
Sogga 09/24/2024 19:48
https://youtu.be/lsD8BXG0Vr4?si=i0xQn3cnIUvt_u7y
Capturing Christianity
I've Found Conclusive PROOF that Mohammad is a FAKE Prophet
19:48
got this on my recommended for whatever reason
19:49
i think someone's tryna tell me something
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Мико⚜🐾 09/24/2024 20:28
https://youtu.be/d2FKSxaa76w
Father Spyridon
FALSE LOVE
Мико⚜🐾 pinned a message to this channel. 09/24/2024 20:28
Blackdog 09/25/2024 08:03
https://youtu.be/QeCaTccewcM?si=7VQUkS_kK79widt4
Hatun Tash DCCI Ministries
Hatun Tash Stabbed at Speakers' Corner
1
Мико⚜🐾 09/25/2024 18:44
I remember when that happened
18:45
https://youtu.be/jQMDQ1OIKAk
Church of the Eternal Logos
The Digital Devil and the Dangers of AI
ungen
What is the moral approach against incest? Currently dealing with a gooner 'tard that claims it's only wrong from a biological reproductive standpoint. (edited)
Xbox360hoodmoments 09/26/2024 02:21
I mean that should be the only reason
02:21
Theoretically he’s not… wrong? But it’s just bad
02:21
Ur not supposed to. I guess wild animals do it though so he can include himself in that group
Мико⚜🐾 09/26/2024 05:11
he was arguing its only wrong from a reproduction standpoint to somehow one-up Ungen and say "well what if they cant have children"
Мико⚜🐾 09/27/2024 15:34
'Our Lord visibly carried Peter on the sea to teach us that He was also invisibly carrying him on dry land.'
`Ephraim the Syrian`
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Мико⚜🐾 09/29/2024 17:28
On_Acquisition_of_the_Holy_Spirit_-_.pdf
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17:28
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/01/2024 17:50
Taking time out of my free time to watch debates of and learn about this Brandon Robertson guy
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/01/2024 18:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpGGSodsD7s
Mike Winger
When You Throw Jesus Under the Bus For Your Social Agenda
bongvain 10/02/2024 04:39
>jesus was racist goy drones tryna take down the one arab that was goated
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Мико⚜🐾 10/02/2024 04:43
true
bongvain 10/02/2024 04:44
nothing psyop robots filling youtube feeds like haitians in springfield
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/02/2024 07:48
Was Jesus an Arab?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Was Jesus an Arab?
GR 10/02/2024 07:56
really depends on who you ask but He was an ethnic Galilean which I've seen to be described as a very light skin tone, almost pale (much different from your typical arab) (edited)
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/02/2024 17:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92sIpbb9Wl0
Michael Davis - Life Game Design
I Tried 30 Days of Prayer as an Atheist
GR
really depends on who you ask but He was an ethnic Galilean which I've seen to be described as a very light skin tone, almost pale (much different from your typical arab) (edited)
bongvain 10/02/2024 18:50
aryanarab
GR
really depends on who you ask but He was an ethnic Galilean which I've seen to be described as a very light skin tone, almost pale (much different from your typical arab) (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 10/02/2024 18:51
to say he is either "Palestinian" or a "Jew" is a bit disingenuous
18:51
and is often if not always done for political reasons
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/02/2024 18:52
It is always done for political reasons
18:53
Especially claiming he was palestinian
Мико⚜🐾
to say he is either "Palestinian" or a "Jew" is a bit disingenuous
bongvain 10/02/2024 18:54
wasnt he religiously jewish\ in the lore or has western gay media misguided me
bongvain
wasnt he religiously jewish\ in the lore or has western gay media misguided me
Мико⚜🐾 10/02/2024 18:56
Yeah, he was a Jew, but even Judaism back then was a different religion
18:57
the Rabbis will admit this even (edited)
bongvain 10/02/2024 18:58
judaism before the adrenochrome markets opened in the israeli underground
Мико⚜🐾 10/02/2024 18:58
there were different sects, you had the Pharisees, the Saducees, the Essenes, also the Enochic and Alexandrian Jews also their beliefs on God weren't uniform either
18:58
there were many who believed in a multipersonal god of sorts before the time of Christ (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
there were many who believed in a multipersonal god of sorts before the time of Christ (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 10/02/2024 18:59
even shortly after, you had people like Philo of Alexandria say ish like "the Logos will be the Messiah" (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
and is often if not always done for political reasons
GR 10/03/2024 00:15
exactly my opinion on the matter
Мико⚜🐾 10/03/2024 11:41
https://youtu.be/L7xm0tJEl3k
Church of the Eternal Logos
The Death of Intimacy: Theology Behind Sexbots and Sexual Subversion
11:41
https://youtu.be/rQqI8jwsy_s
Trisagion Films
Saint Spyridon the Wonderworker and Champion of Orthodoxy
Мико⚜🐾 10/03/2024 17:10
'But do not be surprised that I called the Jews pitiable. They really are pitiable and miserable. When so many blessings from heaven came into their hands, they thrust them aside and were at great pains to reject them. The morning Sun of Justice arose for them, but they thrust aside its rays and still sit in darkness. We, who were nurtured by darkness, drew the light to ourselves and were freed from the gloom of their error. They were the branches of that holy root, but those branches were broken. We had no share in the root, but we did reap the fruit of godliness. From their childhood they read the prophets, but they crucified him whom the prophets had foretold. We did not hear the divine prophecies but we did worship him of whom they prophesied. And so they are pitiful because they rejected the blessings which were sent to them, while others seized hold of these blessing and drew them to themselves. Although those Jews had been called to the adoption of sons, they fell to kinship with dogs; we who were dogs received the strength, through God's grace, to put aside the irrational nature which was ours and to rise to the honour of sons. How do I prove this? Christ said: "It is no fair to take the children's bread and to cast it to the puppies (κυνάριον)". Christ was speaking to the Phoenician woman when He called the Jews children and the Gentiles puppies.'
`St. John Chrysostom, 1st Homily Against the Jews` (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 10/04/2024 07:33
'And the Father cried out, “This is My beloved Son, in Whom I am well-pleased. Listen to Him.” The Son was not separated from the glory of the Godhead, for the Father and the Son with the Holy Spirit are one nature, one power and one essence and one kingship. And He cried out to One with a simple Name and with fearsome glory. And Mary called Him “son”, not separated from the glory of His divinity by His human nature; for He is one, God Who appeared in a body to the world. His glory revealed the divine nature that was from the Father, and His body revealed His human nature that was from Mary; both natures coming together and being united in one hypostasis. Only-Begotten from the Father, and Only-Begotten from Mary. And anyone who parts Him will be parted from His Kingdom, and anyone who confounds his nature will perish from His life. May anyone who denies that Mary gave birth to God not see the glory of His divinity; and anyone who denies that He bore a sinless body will be cast out from salvation and from the life that has been given through His body.'
`St. Ephraim the Syrian, On the Transfiguration of the Lord`
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/05/2024 08:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvtPczBIlpk
Wise Disciple
This SHOCKING Message Changed My Life! | Pastor Reacts
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/05/2024 14:00
@Мико⚜🐾 Do you know what it is that God wants you to do?
14:01
What your calling is?
Мико⚜🐾 10/05/2024 14:42
I feel that He wants me to go into the priesthood at some point in time in the future, and become a deacon. what to do right now? go into a trade or get a support role in the Army.
14:43
i was on the phone with a recruiter and he said i would be best suited for a military intelligence role still searching for trade jobs however (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/05/2024 15:30
I see.
15:30
I still don't know my calling for certain.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/05/2024 17:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuAu6m4yF6A
FS.ryanwalker
I Asked AI How Satan Would Destroy a Young Man… Here's What It Said
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Мико⚜🐾
i was on the phone with a recruiter and he said i would be best suited for a military intelligence role still searching for trade jobs however (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 10/05/2024 17:33
if i do end up finding a retail job
17:33
temporary or full time, part-time
17:33
im going to go back to education and bang out an English degree
17:34
military intelligence, teacher, carpenter thats all i can see myself doing alongside or before the priesthood but maybe im greatly mistaken
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I still don't know my calling for certain.
Мико⚜🐾 10/05/2024 17:34
Ask and you shall receive
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/06/2024 05:13
I had one heck of a dream last night.
05:13
I don't normally have clear dreams that I remember this well but this one was extremely clear. (edited)
05:18
I was in some kind of building. I can best describe it as an old British school, with a door that lead to an endless field outside. It was like, a line of concrete outside the door then the field began. There was a couple of us in the building waiting by the door, and a voice told us to come forward so I decided to go first since everyone else was a bit more scared to go and I'm bold like that. At the edge of the field I met God, who told me I had died in some accident. And I immediately got worried about the people who I was with and fell to my knees asking that those people be safe. God didn't seem to say anything but it felt as though he saw that I was thinking of others despite the fact I was apparently dead. Then God started listing off some things I did wrong in life and each time I told him honestly why I did those things. I sometimes had to pause and think about why I did what I did but I was honest with him. Eventually the sins were getting too much to bear, so I told him that I truly cannot explain myself before coming to Christ. But after Christ I became more aware of my impact on people and tried to do better. After that, God stopped listing my sins and told me to follow him. I asked, if I could take his hand to which he agreed and he lead me out into the field where I stayed at a quaint little house where my old family cat was along with Umbriel. And then my fucking alarm went off and I woke up.
05:20
I dunno. I've just woken up and now I'm thinking a lot more seriously about my impact on others and making sure I do a much more honest job at being sincere to people around me.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/06/2024 05:29
Like. The sins he was listing was me directly hurting or affecting another person. It wasn't like "Oh you committed sexual immorality" it was like "Why did you do this to this person?"
05:30
Huh... Now that I think about it, I did ask God during my prayer to show me how to love again and how to be more compassionate. I guess he just showed me now how to do that. Or maybe, why to do that.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I dunno. I've just woken up and now I'm thinking a lot more seriously about my impact on others and making sure I do a much more honest job at being sincere to people around me.
Sogga 10/06/2024 08:45
i think about it every day
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Huh... Now that I think about it, I did ask God during my prayer to show me how to love again and how to be more compassionate. I guess he just showed me now how to do that. Or maybe, why to do that.
Extra-sensory PURRception 10/06/2024 08:57
I wonder if this was caused by divine intervention or if it was caused by you yourself. I guess that you got an answer either way
Мико⚜🐾 10/06/2024 09:18
galatians 3:28 blp
BibleBot BOT 10/06/2024 09:18
Gálatas 3:28 - La Palabra (España) (BLP)
<28> Ya no hay distinción entre judío y no judío, ni entre esclavo y libre, ni entre varón y mujer. En Cristo Jesús, todos sois uno.
Мико⚜🐾
galatians 3:28 blp
serpente482 10/06/2024 09:33
Did you write it here to dont fuck up in the other server?
serpente482
Did you write it here to dont fuck up in the other server?
Мико⚜🐾 10/06/2024 09:34
yeah wanted to make sure the translation was on biblebot
NasCar 10/06/2024 13:48
13:48
mfw parents argue about christianity
NasCar
mfw parents argue about christianity
Мико⚜🐾 10/06/2024 13:52
what were they talking about?
Мико⚜🐾
what were they talking about?
NasCar 10/06/2024 14:04
That they find the idea of Christianity masochistic
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14:05
Cleansing yourself of human nature etc etc
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/06/2024 14:30
God feels closer each day c:
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
God feels closer each day c:
NasCar 10/06/2024 14:33
that's nice
Мико⚜🐾
Ask and you shall receive
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/06/2024 14:38
Thanks for this, btw. It's so obvious but sometimes you feel like you cannot hear God's voice. But I think I have found out how to tap into the methods that God communicates with me.
14:38
I know what he wants for me. Or, can say confidently I know what he wants me to do.
NasCar
That they find the idea of Christianity masochistic
Мико⚜🐾 10/06/2024 14:39
very shallow and carnal understanding of the Christian ethos (edited)
NasCar
Cleansing yourself of human nature etc etc
Мико⚜🐾 10/06/2024 14:40
no, to pursue the Orthodox life is to return to an Adamic state
14:41
you dont "cleanse yourself of humanity", you truly become human again on the contrary (edited)
14:42
John 8:33-36 NKJV
BibleBot BOT 10/06/2024 14:42
John 8:33-36 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<33> They answered Him, "We are Abraham's descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can You say, ‘You will be made free'?" <34> Jesus answered them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. <35> And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever. <36> Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I was in some kind of building. I can best describe it as an old British school, with a door that lead to an endless field outside. It was like, a line of concrete outside the door then the field began. There was a couple of us in the building waiting by the door, and a voice told us to come forward so I decided to go first since everyone else was a bit more scared to go and I'm bold like that. At the edge of the field I met God, who told me I had died in some accident. And I immediately got worried about the people who I was with and fell to my knees asking that those people be safe. God didn't seem to say anything but it felt as though he saw that I was thinking of others despite the fact I was apparently dead. Then God started listing off some things I did wrong in life and each time I told him honestly why I did those things. I sometimes had to pause and think about why I did what I did but I was honest with him. Eventually the sins were getting too much to bear, so I told him that I truly cannot explain myself before coming to Christ. But after Christ I became more aware of my impact on people and tried to do better. After that, God stopped listing my sins and told me to follow him. I asked, if I could take his hand to which he agreed and he lead me out into the field where I stayed at a quaint little house where my old family cat was along with Umbriel. And then my fucking alarm went off and I woke up.
Мико⚜🐾 10/06/2024 14:43
Matthew 11:28-30 NKJV
BibleBot BOT 10/06/2024 14:43
Matthew 11:28-30 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<28> Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. <29> Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. <30> For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/06/2024 14:49
I wasn't even worried about potential damnation when God was listing off my sins in my dream.
14:50
I was more disappointed in myself that God seemed disappointed in me. Until I told him that I can't explain my actions before Christ but I can after accepting Christ. To which he seemed much gentler with me.
14:50
It's not hell I fear. It's disappointing my heavenly father.
14:51
God called Moses a friend. I think I would like God to consider me a friend, too.
Мико⚜🐾 10/08/2024 05:02
Мико⚜🐾 10/08/2024 07:13
https://youtu.be/WN8cXgrTzKk great video on the Hellenist Jew position on the multipersonhood of YHWH in the Old Testament (edited)
The Orthodox Albanian
The two thrones, one like a Son of Man, and one God (Daniel Boyarin)
07:15
many criticizers of the Trinity from Judaism and Islam are blissfully unaware that the belief of the Messiah being God or a 2nd divine person of sorts being was not uncommon, even long, long after the beginning of the Rabbinic period (so post 70AD) (edited)
07:17
the difference between many of the Christians and the Jews at the time of Christianity in its infancy was the decision of who the Messiah was.
Мико⚜🐾
many criticizers of the Trinity from Judaism and Islam are blissfully unaware that the belief of the Messiah being God or a 2nd divine person of sorts being was not uncommon, even long, long after the beginning of the Rabbinic period (so post 70AD) (edited)
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/08/2024 09:29
Genesis 1:26 uses the plural first person form too
09:29
Gen 1:26 kjv
BibleBot BOT 10/08/2024 09:29
Genesis 1:26 - King James Version (KJV)
<26> And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/08/2024 09:30
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
(edited)
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Arcane BOT 10/08/2024 09:30
@𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 has reached level 3. GG!
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/08/2024 14:18
I have to make a website with js for a project decided to do a website that explains arguments for God and uses JavaScript to display explanations of harder philosophical terminology and refutations of counter arguments (edited)
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Мико⚜🐾 10/08/2024 18:39
https://youtu.be/LiAZHn18uVI
Orthodox Wisdom
On Refusal to Judge Our Neighbor - St. Dorotheos of Gaza
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
I have to make a website with js for a project decided to do a website that explains arguments for God and uses JavaScript to display explanations of harder philosophical terminology and refutations of counter arguments (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 10/08/2024 18:39
sounds like a great idea
Мико⚜🐾
sounds like a great idea
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/08/2024 20:03
the only problem is: I don't know how to make js change css properties
20:04
meaning the site will be horribly slow
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
the only problem is: I don't know how to make js change css properties
Zoraxe 10/09/2024 07:04
I think there's a way for switches to work within CSS itself, but it can be quite annoying to get right iirc
Zoraxe
I think there's a way for switches to work within CSS itself, but it can be quite annoying to get right iirc
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/09/2024 08:38
idk how to
Мико⚜🐾 10/09/2024 16:27
16:27
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/09/2024 16:51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eGuEloeetM
PASTOR DANIEL
INSTANT REGRET: When MOCKING God Goes TERRIBLY WRONG | Billy Graham...
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Extra-sensory PURRception 10/09/2024 16:57
I thought that this was cool, might as well share it here
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Мико⚜🐾 10/09/2024 17:03
St. George
17:03
hes the patron of England
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/09/2024 18:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHp1tdsjte0
Family Research Council
Dr. Voddie Baucham | Pray Vote Stand Summit 2024
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/09/2024 21:35
lv 15:13
BibleBot BOT 10/09/2024 21:35
Leviticus 15:13 - Biblia Sacra Vulgata (VULGATE)
<13> Si sanatus fuerit qui hujuscemodi sustinet passionem, numerabit septem dies post emundationem sui, et lotis vestibus et toto corpore in aquis viventibus, erit mundus.
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/09/2024 21:35
lv 13:15 dra
BibleBot BOT 10/09/2024 21:35
Leviticus 13:15 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<15> Then by the judgment of the priest he shall be defiled, and shall be reckoned among the unclean: for live flesh, if it be spotted with leprosy, is unclean.
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/09/2024 21:36
lv 13:16 dra
BibleBot BOT 10/09/2024 21:36
Leviticus 13:16 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<16> And if again it be turned into whiteness, and cover all the man,
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/09/2024 21:36
lv 13:17 dra
BibleBot BOT 10/09/2024 21:36
Leviticus 13:17 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<17> The priest shall view him, and shall judge him to be clean.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/11/2024 10:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SHDOpc_6uM
A&Ω Productions
"PRIDE Comes Before DESTRUCTION" | This GENERATION has BECOME WORSE...
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SHDOpc_6uM
Sogga 10/11/2024 13:24
how are the liberals gonna recover after this one
NasCar 10/11/2024 14:08
Found @Мико⚜🐾 on the sharty
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14:09
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14:10
Idk who the cat character is
14:10
But I've seen many trannies use it as a pfp
Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2024 14:10
lol
NasCar
Idk who the cat character is
Extra-sensory PURRception 10/11/2024 14:11
I don't know either
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/11/2024 16:17
Just spotted one of "those" profiles in the wild.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Just spotted one of "those" profiles in the wild.
ungen 10/11/2024 16:29
Yeah, those.
16:30
Had the name on the tip of my tongue for a hot minute. Thought Biden's brainworms got my ass.
ungen
Had the name on the tip of my tongue for a hot minute. Thought Biden's brainworms got my ass.
Sogga 10/11/2024 16:51
i have your ass
16:51
Мико⚜🐾 10/12/2024 02:21
https://youtu.be/xfvpV6jWGOY
InspiringPhilosophy
John: An Eyewitness Account
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ungen 10/12/2024 07:56
Matthew 10:16
BibleBot BOT 10/12/2024 07:56
Matthew 10:16 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Coming Persecutions
<16> "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.
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Мико⚜🐾 10/12/2024 16:17
https://vxtwitter.com/anded__1/status/1845082884740190582
Twitter
anded (@anded__1)
Inscriptions in the Roman Catacombs affirming the practise of asking the Saints to pray for us/ advocation. (I do have a lot more, I just don't have photos for these inscriptions yet)
Мико⚜🐾 10/12/2024 17:34
Ezekiel 16:1-8
BibleBot BOT 10/12/2024 17:34
Ezekiel 16:1-8 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<1> Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying, <2> Son of man, testify to Jerusalem of her iniquities; <3> and thou shalt say, Thus saith the Lord to Jerusalem; Thy root and thy birth are of the land of Canaan: thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother a Hittite. <4> And as for thy birth in the day wherein thou wast born, thou didst not bind thy breasts, and thou wast not washed in water, neither wast thou salted with salt, neither wast thou swathed in swaddling bands. <5> Nor did mine eye pity thee, to do for thee one of all these things, to feel at all for thee; but thou wast cast out on the face of the field, because of the deformity of thy person, in the day wherein thou wast born. <6> And I passed by to thee, and saw thee polluted in thy blood; and I said to thee, Let there be life out of thy blood: <7> increase; I have made thee as the springing grass of the field. So thou didst increase and grow, and didst enter into great cities: thy breasts were set, and thy hair grew, whereas thou wast naked and bare. <8> And I passed by thee and saw thee, and, behold, it was thy time and a time of resting; and I spread my wings over thee, and covered thy shame, and swore to thee: and I entered into covenant with thee, saith the Lord, and thou becamest mine.
Мико⚜🐾 10/12/2024 17:36
Ezekiel 16:9-14
BibleBot BOT 10/12/2024 17:36
Ezekiel 16:9-14 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<9> And I washed thee in water, and washed thy blood from thee, and anointed thee with oil. <10> And I clothed thee with embroidered garments, and clothed thee beneath with purple, and girded thee with fine linen, and clothed thee with silk, <11> and decked thee also with ornaments, and put bracelets on thy hands, and a necklace on thy neck. <12> And I put a pendant on thy nostril, and rings in thine ears, and a crown of glory on thy head. <13> So thou wast adorned with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and variegated work: thou didst eat fine flour, and oil, and honey, and didst become extremely beautiful. <14> And thy name went forth among the nations for thy beauty: because it was perfected with elegance, and in the comeliness which I put upon thee, saith the Lord.
Мико⚜🐾 10/12/2024 17:40
good defeater for anyone who says that the time for one to marry is "unclear" in the Bible. this here is God speaking through the prophet Ezekiel, as He anthropomorphises the nation and collective people of Israel as His bride. He waits according to v7 and 8 until "thy breasts were set" and her "hair has grown", which clearly indicates God waited until the "woman" here, or Israel, had gone through puberty.
17:40
Then the Father "enters into covenant" with Israel and makes her His.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/12/2024 18:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AGZm-2g9os
Daily Dose Of Wisdom
Atheism Logically DISMANTLED (Using Morality, Mathematics & Reason!)
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18:11
I've never actually seen Alex O Connor get struck down in such an articulate manner before
18:11
Refreshing
Мико⚜🐾 10/12/2024 18:12
https://youtu.be/aN88s3VT2KM
Dyer Clips
Jay Dyer on Empiricism
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/12/2024 18:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWkS6c0q8zE
Grace Family Baptist Church
What Does It Mean To Be Either Hot Or Cold? -- Voddie Baucham
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18:23
My parents were lukewarm Christians. It's why me and all my siblings became atheists around the same time.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
My parents were lukewarm Christians. It's why me and all my siblings became atheists around the same time.
Sogga 10/12/2024 18:26
what does that mean
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/12/2024 18:28
Watch the video and it'll enlighten you (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWkS6c0q8zE
Мико⚜🐾 10/12/2024 18:31
i enjoyed this exegesis of the text, very interesting
Мико⚜🐾 10/13/2024 07:45
https://youtu.be/LJPVNTVaBHc
UNTO AGES
Yes, The New Testament is Reliable
Мико⚜🐾 10/13/2024 10:37
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/13/2024 11:07
I probably heard the worst argument against an supposed (and very likely) internal contradiction in Roman Catholicism today but first the supposed contradiction and an internal critique: 0. for the sake of argument we assume the Roman Catholic Presuppositions. 1. the final paragraph of cantate domino says this: "It firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that those not living within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life, but will depart “into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels” [Matt. 25:41], unless before the end of life the same have been added to the flock; and that the unity of the ecclesiastical body is so strong that only to those remaining in it are the sacraments of the Church of benefit for salvation, and do fastings, almsgiving, and other functions of piety and exercises of Christian service produce eternal reward, and that no one, whatever almsgiving he has practiced, even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church." 2. the Catholic church canonised St Sergius of Radonezh and Gregory of Narek 3. Sergius of Radonezh was an Eastern orthodox monastic, and Gregory of Narek was an oriental orthodox monastic 4. both lived after the schism between the Said Churches and Rome. 5. According to the first Vatican council, pope has always been considered infallible when preaching doctrines. this includes canonisations. 6. therefore canonisations are without error 7. the councils of the Church have always been considered infallible, even since the time of the apostles. 8. therefore both Cantate Domino, which was gratified at a council and the canonisations are infallible. 9. however Cantate Domino says schismatics cannot enter the kingdom of heaven
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11:07
10. the third premise says both Sergius and Gregory were schismatics Conclusion: there is an internal contradiction between what is considered to be infallible in Roman Catholicism
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/13/2024 11:14
okay, so now the counterargument:
11:17
1. there's a baptism of blood that can happen if someone dies outside of the Church, even if they have not believed and can be saved
11:19
now find the problem with this counterargument should be easy
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/13/2024 11:26
spoiler alert this is pelagianism
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
now find the problem with this counterargument should be easy
Мико⚜🐾 10/13/2024 11:31
well, Cantate Domino states relatively explicity that you can only only be baptised by blood as a member of the Catholic Church. that would be something to point out
11:32
there is no "baptism of blood" if you are not united to it‍♂️
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
spoiler alert this is pelagianism
Мико⚜🐾 10/13/2024 11:33
in what sense is it pelagian? are you talking about its listing of fastings, almsgiving and "functions of piety"?
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/13/2024 11:33
but we are not talking about people who have died in communion with rome.
Мико⚜🐾 10/13/2024 11:34
they never had communion to begin w/
Мико⚜🐾
in what sense is it pelagian? are you talking about its listing of fastings, almsgiving and "functions of piety"?
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/13/2024 11:34
this basically makes it so that even if you have not believed but have done good works you can get to heaven
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Мико⚜🐾 10/13/2024 11:34
Either that
11:35
or the system is incorrect
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
this basically makes it so that even if you have not believed but have done good works you can get to heaven
Мико⚜🐾 10/13/2024 11:35
thats 1 of 2 logical conclusions youd have to make
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/13/2024 11:38
yeah that response raises more questions than it answers my next question was "well, why not just be orthodox?" and the response to that was that the roman catholic church has the fullness of truth said completely ad hoc following the occams razor, which answer is better: that the roman catholic system just contradicts itself or that response that I was given
Мико⚜🐾 10/13/2024 11:50
that it contradicts itself
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/13/2024 11:50
yeah
11:55
this is not the only objection I have however
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
this is not the only objection I have however
Мико⚜🐾 10/13/2024 12:04
i can imagine theyre not what were some of your other objections that led you to Orthodoxy
Мико⚜🐾
i can imagine theyre not what were some of your other objections that led you to Orthodoxy
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/13/2024 12:16
the other rites venerating people who have been proclaimed anathema by the roman see Byzantine catholiucs: St Gregory Palamas, St Mark of Ephesus among other orthodox saints Syro-Malabars: Nestorius (THAT Nesorius that the Council of Ephesus Condemned) there are also diffrences in doctrines, like the byzantine catholics say the creed without the filioque clause, and syro-malabars are, well, Nestorian plus hardcore ecumenism pushed by the pope.
12:17
and papal supremacy being found nowhere in the early Church contrary to Vatican I
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12:20
and the local language usage in liturgy
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
the other rites venerating people who have been proclaimed anathema by the roman see Byzantine catholiucs: St Gregory Palamas, St Mark of Ephesus among other orthodox saints Syro-Malabars: Nestorius (THAT Nesorius that the Council of Ephesus Condemned) there are also diffrences in doctrines, like the byzantine catholics say the creed without the filioque clause, and syro-malabars are, well, Nestorian plus hardcore ecumenism pushed by the pope.
Мико⚜🐾 10/13/2024 12:20
Well that's the thing. They're not actually allowed to venerate Palamas (officially), but Mark of Ephesus veneration is OK? Seraphim of Sarov is named a saint in John Paul II's book + he venerated Palamas in his chapel, going back to him. Which would mean he broke the rules (edited)
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
and the local language usage in liturgy
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/13/2024 12:21
rome prevented it even though the most commonly used translation for liturgy (Biblia Sacra Vulgata) was made so that common people could read the scriptures without problem. look at the name. it literally means holy common Bible
Arcane BOT 10/13/2024 12:21
@𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 has reached level 5. GG!
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
the other rites venerating people who have been proclaimed anathema by the roman see Byzantine catholiucs: St Gregory Palamas, St Mark of Ephesus among other orthodox saints Syro-Malabars: Nestorius (THAT Nesorius that the Council of Ephesus Condemned) there are also diffrences in doctrines, like the byzantine catholics say the creed without the filioque clause, and syro-malabars are, well, Nestorian plus hardcore ecumenism pushed by the pope.
Мико⚜🐾 10/13/2024 12:21
Yeah, calling Nestorius a "doctor of the church" in your liturgy is mad (edited)
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
and the local language usage in liturgy
Мико⚜🐾 10/13/2024 12:23
TLM Eastern Rite
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/13/2024 12:24
and also the 3rd ecumenical council forbade any addition to the creed
Мико⚜🐾 10/13/2024 17:14
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/13/2024 19:31
which is most likely? 1. The fullness of the church was not widely believed for over 1500 years until some people noticed some actual problems in their Church and decided to reinterpret the Bible 2. 7 out of 8 autocepalies split from rome and somehow managed to agree on a new ecclesiological doctrine, even though they were not agreeing on a lot of issues. plus they managed to keep every other tradition intact. 3. rome schismed from the true church and invented new doctrines. (edited)
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𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/13/2024 19:39
Eph 5:22-33 dra
BibleBot BOT 10/13/2024 19:39
Ephesians 5:22-33 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<22> Let women be subject to their husbands, as to the Lord: <23> Because the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ is the head of the church. He is the saviour of his body. <24> Therefore as the church is subject to Christ, so also let the wives be to their husbands in all things. <25> Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himself up for it: <26> That he might sanctify it, cleansing it by the laver of water in the word of life: <27> That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy, and without blemish. <28> So also ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife, loveth himself. <29> For no man ever hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, as also Christ doth the church: <30> Because we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. <31> For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they shall be two in one flesh. <32> This is a great sacrament; but I speak in Christ and in the church. <33> Nevertheless let every one of you in particular love his wife as himself: and let the wife fear her husband.
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BibleBot
Ephesians 5:22-33 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<22> Let women be subject to their husbands, as to the Lord: <23> Because the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ is the head of the church. He is the saviour of his body. <24> Therefore as the church is subject to Christ, so also let the wives be to their husbands in all things. <25> Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himself up for it: <26> That he might sanctify it, cleansing it by the laver of water in the word of life: <27> That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy, and without blemish. <28> So also ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife, loveth himself. <29> For no man ever hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, as also Christ doth the church: <30> Because we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. <31> For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they shall be two in one flesh. <32> This is a great sacrament; but I speak in Christ and in the church. <33> Nevertheless let every one of you in particular love his wife as himself: and let the wife fear her husband.
Мико⚜🐾 10/14/2024 17:11
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NasCar 10/14/2024 17:29
based
Мико⚜🐾 10/15/2024 16:19
Proverbs 5:18-19 NKJV
BibleBot BOT 10/15/2024 16:19
Proverbs 5:18-19 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<18> Let your fountain be blessed, And rejoice with the wife of your youth. <19> As a loving deer and a graceful doe, Let her breasts satisfy you at all times; And always be enraptured with her love.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/15/2024 16:20
JESUS SAID ENJOY BOOBAS
16:20
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
bongvain 10/16/2024 06:55
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2024 18:34
@Мико⚜🐾 If God created a perfect kingdom in the beginning, why then were his angels capable of making the decision to turn away from him and introduce sin into the world?
ungen 10/16/2024 18:44
"if God good then why bad thing happen"
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2024 18:49
"Don't ask questions in order to better understand your theology, just accept it at face value!"
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 If God created a perfect kingdom in the beginning, why then were his angels capable of making the decision to turn away from him and introduce sin into the world?
Мико⚜🐾 10/16/2024 19:03
are you asking why he gave the angels free will? i wouldnt be able to tell you why this is, it's ultimately a mystery as to why God made such a choice. however, you should understand that even Lucifer was not created evil. (edited)
19:04
"Lucifer was not made wicked in nature but was good, and made for good ends, and received from his Creator no trace whatever of evil in himself. But he did not sustain the brightness and the honor which the Creator had bestowed on him. Of his free choice, he was changed from what was in harmony to what was at variance with his nature, and became roused against God; thus, he was the first to depart from good and become evil. For evil is nothing else that absence of goodness, just as darkness also is the absence of light. For goodness is the light of the mind, and, similarly, evil is the darkness of the mind....Now along with him an innumerable host of angels, subject to him, were torn away, followed him, and shared in his fall. therefore, being of the same nature as the angels, they became wicked, turning away at their own free choice from good to evil."
`St. John of Damascus`
19:04
Isaiah 14:12-15
BibleBot BOT 10/16/2024 19:04
Isaiah 14:12-15 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<12> How has Lucifer, that rose in the morning, fallen from heaven! He that sent orders to all the nations is crushed to the earth. <13> But thou saidst in thy heart, I will go up to heaven, I will set my throne above the stars of heaven: I will sit on a lofty mount, on the lofty mountains toward the north: <14> I will go up above the clouds; I will be like the Most High. <15> But now thou shalt go down to hell, even to the foundations of the earth.
Мико⚜🐾
are you asking why he gave the angels free will? i wouldnt be able to tell you why this is, it's ultimately a mystery as to why God made such a choice. however, you should understand that even Lucifer was not created evil. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 10/16/2024 19:06
its like asking the question, "well, thank you for explaining the problem of evil, but why did God create a world in which he permits evil when he theoretically could have not?"
19:06
beyond our scope of understanding
Мико⚜🐾
are you asking why he gave the angels free will? i wouldnt be able to tell you why this is, it's ultimately a mystery as to why God made such a choice. however, you should understand that even Lucifer was not created evil. (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2024 19:07
My best theory behind why God gave us and his angels free will was so that he could develop a genuine relationship with his creations. Otherwise, our love for him would be fake and be forced
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
My best theory behind why God gave us and his angels free will was so that he could develop a genuine relationship with his creations. Otherwise, our love for him would be fake and be forced
Мико⚜🐾 10/16/2024 19:07
Yes, this is the answer i present
Мико⚜🐾
beyond our scope of understanding
Мико⚜🐾 10/16/2024 19:08
however, we could begin to answer this with "well, how else would God be able to demonstrate His love to Mankind and be ultimately glorified in a greater way than what He chose to do when He became incarnate?" (edited)
19:11
in a world without suffering, there is no overcoming of "bad" things in order to bring about a greater good furthermore
Мико⚜🐾
in a world without suffering, there is no overcoming of "bad" things in order to bring about a greater good furthermore
Мико⚜🐾 10/16/2024 19:11
a village will feel a greater joy after barely saving themselves from famine as opposed to never experiencing it to begin with and always being in abundance (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2024 19:12
I am already familiar with that line of logic, which is why I understand "why god make bad thing"
19:12
I'm just more curious as to why or how Lucifer was able to become the incarnation of evil.
Мико⚜🐾
are you asking why he gave the angels free will? i wouldnt be able to tell you why this is, it's ultimately a mystery as to why God made such a choice. however, you should understand that even Lucifer was not created evil. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 10/16/2024 19:12
Man was not created evil either but i think you know that (edited)
19:14
one of the errors of the Muslims is that because they didnt plagarize our original sin doctrine, they have no concept of a "normal", "restored" or "fallen" human nature
19:14
Allah created Adam and Eve, and mankind collectively with the "proclivity" or tendency to commit sin. Which causes major problems for them concerning the nature of Allah, their eschatology, their response to the "problem of evil" question etc. (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I'm just more curious as to why or how Lucifer was able to become the incarnation of evil.
Мико⚜🐾 10/16/2024 19:16
He, Diabolos, Lucifer, was the first created thing to become evil And that is why he is the "incarnation" of it
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2024 19:17
And it was through his free will that God gave him, that he became infatuated with being higher than God?
Мико⚜🐾 10/16/2024 19:17
Yes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2024 19:17
That does make sense.
19:17
So even angels have the same mode of thinking that we do and can also be tempted into sin.
Мико⚜🐾 10/16/2024 19:18
And while God foreknew his thought process, He did not directly cause it
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
So even angels have the same mode of thinking that we do and can also be tempted into sin.
Мико⚜🐾 10/16/2024 19:18
Not in the same sense we can, because their will is in a different state than ours
Мико⚜🐾
And while God foreknew his thought process, He did not directly cause it
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2024 19:19
Right, he lets us be tempted by sin to see if we'll either stay loyal to him or allow Satan to work deeper into our hearts.
19:20
Reminds me of this banger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXtHNpT6MJk
Dax
Dax - "The Devil's Calling" (Official Music Video)
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Мико⚜🐾 10/16/2024 19:21
Well no, He foreknows our decisions as well but He still allows us to be tested because if we weren't tested and were instantly shuffled to say Heaven or Hell, there's no spiritual growth nor struggle no natural growth in our individual relationships w/ Him (edited)
19:25
no story to tell. itd be absurd if He did otherwise, wouldn't it? You as a teacher, say if you foreknew your students would pass for certain, youre not gonna then let them not do that test
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2024 19:26
Or like...
19:27
Say you want to get all achievements in a game. What's more forfilling, slugging out each achievement or cheating in every achievement? The end result is the same, but suffering through it is more forfilling.
Мико⚜🐾 10/16/2024 19:27
if you tell your son not to touch the stove 22 times and he keeps on trying to. maybe you let him touch it the 23rd time
19:27
to teach him a lesson in a way
19:27
it burns his hand a tiny bit, not a crazy amount. but now he knows he should listen to you (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Say you want to get all achievements in a game. What's more forfilling, slugging out each achievement or cheating in every achievement? The end result is the same, but suffering through it is more forfilling.
Мико⚜🐾 10/16/2024 19:28
sure
ungen
"if God good then why bad thing happen"
NasCar 10/16/2024 22:39
GR 10/17/2024 05:21
"One life is all we have and we live it as we believe in living it. But to sacrifice what you are and to live without belief, that is a fate more terrible than dying." -Joan of Arc
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 10/17/2024 16:17
Ew, Joan of Arc
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/17/2024 19:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzAy6S6YfPA
Daniel C
The Dark Truth Of Christian YouTube
19:10
>me seeing the title vs >me watching it and understanding the message
NasCar 10/17/2024 22:35
@Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian @Мико⚜🐾 true or not?
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NasCar
@Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian @Мико⚜🐾 true or not?
Мико⚜🐾 10/18/2024 00:24
true.
00:24
St. Jerome is hard
00:25
Мико⚜🐾 10/18/2024 06:22
https://youtu.be/gsDk0M-AE1k
nihilsineDeo1
Spiritual conversations with Father Dumitru Staniloae
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/19/2024 08:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHcjK32z0JY
Lotuseaters Dot Com
Silent Prayer is Now Illegal in the UK | Calvin Robinson
08:20
Lord please please please please please rain fire and brimstone down on us like you did Sodom. Please, just fucking end our shit.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/19/2024 08:28
I genuinely cannot even finish watching this, it's pissing me off like nothing else.
Extra-sensory PURRception 10/19/2024 08:31
Crazy how they can punish you for thinking now
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Мико⚜🐾 10/20/2024 10:10
it was prophesied
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/20/2024 10:16
where
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
where
Мико⚜🐾 10/20/2024 10:27
literally 1984 or somthing
10:27
NasCar 10/20/2024 12:41
O algo
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/20/2024 15:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoT4O9-_-cE
Father Moses
How a Priest Treats Lust Addiction
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Мико⚜🐾 10/20/2024 15:38
Fr. Moses
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/20/2024 18:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmVfgBi-36o
Becket Cook
How Sexual Activists Hijacked the Civil Rights Movement Voddie Bauc...
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Мико⚜🐾 10/20/2024 18:59
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmVfgBi-36o
Мико⚜🐾 10/20/2024 18:59
going to watch the video now, but i already agree with the thumbnail
18:59
gay is the new black now, they have attempted to merge ethnicity and race with sexual orientation
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now, are there some parallels? absolutely however there are some key things that fundamentally make them different and not analagous
ungen 10/20/2024 19:00
Can't be born gay, for one.
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/20/2024 19:04
I was gay but I no longer am.
Мико⚜🐾 10/20/2024 19:05
the first one being, well, that its something you're born with or outside of your control. "transgenders" with Alzheimers actually forget theyre "trans", which proves gender dysmorphia is environmental. And even in the face of biased researchers with Progressivist presuppositions, they still found that men are not predisposed genetically to have dysphoria at all. and that women are negligibly predisposed to, even in cases they do identify as such (12%).
Мико⚜🐾
Click to see attachment 🖼️
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/20/2024 19:05
St Benedict said to Make peace with your adversary before the sun sets in "The rule" chapter 4 point 71
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(I totally went to the book instead of using the sqlite code of ethics because it contains said chapter /j)
Мико⚜🐾
the first one being, well, that its something you're born with or outside of your control. "transgenders" with Alzheimers actually forget theyre "trans", which proves gender dysmorphia is environmental. And even in the face of biased researchers with Progressivist presuppositions, they still found that men are not predisposed genetically to have dysphoria at all. and that women are negligibly predisposed to, even in cases they do identify as such (12%).
Мико⚜🐾 10/20/2024 19:07
With gays and "bisexuals" and lesbians, its demonstrably a similar scenario. Genetic predisposition has been proven time and time again to not be a factor to take very seriously, it comes down purely to environmental factors. And no, not necessarily saying abuse causes you to be that in every scenario, thats ridiculous. Other things that just happen in life can affect your decisions (edited)
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
I was gay but I no longer am.
Мико⚜🐾 10/20/2024 19:10
I thought I was bisexual myself, but my grandma was used to completely dispel that confusion She really helped me when I stayed w/ her
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it wasnt an overnight transformation but something that went away over time, let me add
ungen
Can't be born gay, for one.
Мико⚜🐾 10/20/2024 19:11
spot on
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/20/2024 19:12
Honestly I still really struggle with it. I was sure I was bisexual since I was 14, making that 16 years of being bi. I still find a lot of men attractive and it doesn't help that a video game my project partner and I have been using as inspiration has a gay couple and the one character I do find a little bit appealing so. Idk. Still a struggle I guess.
Мико⚜🐾
it wasnt an overnight transformation but something that went away over time, let me add
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/20/2024 19:12
this was going slowly with me too
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Honestly I still really struggle with it. I was sure I was bisexual since I was 14, making that 16 years of being bi. I still find a lot of men attractive and it doesn't help that a video game my project partner and I have been using as inspiration has a gay couple and the one character I do find a little bit appealing so. Idk. Still a struggle I guess.
Мико⚜🐾 10/20/2024 19:13
Well, youre still new to the faith I wouldnt beat yourself up about it. Furthermore, maybe it just isnt in your journey to overcome these things in one go, quickly, or even at all. Sometimes God permits us to struggle with sin and succumb to it to humble us (edited)
19:14
Failing and being truly repentant still leads to spiritual growth, success less so (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/20/2024 19:15
I work with a guy who is very camp and obviously gay, right? Honestly he's like one of my fav people in work because he is genuinely really funny and has the thickest vallies welsh accent ever. A lot of our banter comes down to sexual jokes and while I don't exactly find him attractive (especially since he already has a partner), my work colleagues do "ship us" because we have such natural energy. I don't mind the sexual jokes, because they are jokes and I recognise that (he's also quick to apologise if he thinks he made a joke that's a little too far).
19:16
But yeah in some ways I think our chemistry doesn't exactly help the matter, even if I don't actually find him attractive lol
19:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVVarc5wr2M
Toni Bryanne TV
The CONSTANT Mocking of Christianity in Hollywood
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/20/2024 19:30
Luke 10:18
BibleBot BOT 10/20/2024 19:30
Luke 10:18 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<18> And he said to them, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/20/2024 19:30
Oh that's the quote.
Мико⚜🐾 10/21/2024 06:09
Мико⚜🐾 10/21/2024 15:36
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/21/2024 15:51
Holy Mary, mother of God. Pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death, amen.
15:51
Мико⚜🐾 10/21/2024 15:55
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/21/2024 23:02
idk why, but Christian music gives me a sense of being at home that is deeper than even the one I feel when after a long time I finally come back to my house. it makes me calm like nothing can too. (edited)
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Мико⚜🐾 10/22/2024 06:55
for me, its very sobering
NasCar 10/22/2024 10:44
For me it's imposing
10:44
Not in a bad way
10:45
But in like, I'm in the presence of something bigger than I'll ever be
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Мико⚜🐾 10/22/2024 16:12
royal doors from an old church
16:12
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/22/2024 17:51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wBtFNj_o5k
Jordan B Peterson
Dawkins vs Peterson: Memes & Archetypes | Alex O’Connor Moderates |...
17:51
Long awaited discussion with Peterson and Dawkins
17:52
Peterson is annoyingly avoidant on which side of the Christian/Non-Christian fence he sits.
17:52
He seems dead-set on seeing the Bible as purely allegoric while not making his apparant stance clear.
Мико⚜🐾 10/22/2024 17:52
Hes still working out things himself and tbh him being an agnostic means that more people listen to him, as sad as it is to say
17:53
Some people will simply not listen to you merely because you are Christian
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17:53
Him remaining to have an agnostic stance means more people listen to him He is being used to at least point people towards Christ or bring Theism back into the discussion (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/22/2024 17:54
They really do feel like immoveable force and unstoppable object in this discussion.
Мико⚜🐾 10/22/2024 17:54
Jonathan Pageau and Fr. Moses said this recently about him
17:54
and I agree with them both
Мико⚜🐾
Him remaining to have an agnostic stance means more people listen to him He is being used to at least point people towards Christ or bring Theism back into the discussion (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/22/2024 17:55
Not wrong. There is an inherent knee-jerk reaction to hearing someone is a Christian and assuming they must be stupid or have no idea what they're talking about. Peterson at least approaches the Biblical texts from a nuanced angle that both sides are willing to listen to him.
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Мико⚜🐾
Him remaining to have an agnostic stance means more people listen to him He is being used to at least point people towards Christ or bring Theism back into the discussion (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 10/22/2024 17:57
Im convinced that Peterson believes there is at least some sort of philosopher's god but isnt sure of Christianity Who knows, maybe hes lying? But i doubt it and so do most people who pay attention to him (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/22/2024 17:58
It is weirdly interesting though seeing Peterson pressed strongly.
17:58
I can at least credit Dawkins for coming at him with a relentless "yes/no" approach and Peterson trying to find a way of stumbling around it.
Extra-sensory PURRception 10/22/2024 17:59
So who's Dawkins?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/22/2024 18:00
>who's dawkins
18:00
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
>who's dawkins
Extra-sensory PURRception 10/22/2024 18:00
I'm sorry man
Extra-sensory PURRception
So who's Dawkins?
Мико⚜🐾 10/22/2024 18:00
The most popular guy from the London Nu-Atheist movement
18:00
of the 90s and 2000s
Мико⚜🐾
The most popular guy from the London Nu-Atheist movement
Extra-sensory PURRception 10/22/2024 18:01
Ah, alright
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/22/2024 18:01
He basically ramped-up Atheist pressure against the Christian culture at the time and sort of... not began a new wave of Atheism but certainly lead the charged.
Extra-sensory PURRception
Ah, alright
Мико⚜🐾 10/22/2024 18:01
along with Christopher Hitchens and Daniel Dennett
18:02
those 3 are the main people from the Nu-Atheists
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/22/2024 18:03
Peterson is a lot more animated. You can tell Dawkins is pressing at him on a level which is making him internally struggle.
18:03
I kind of appreciate it actually, this is a really interesting interview.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/22/2024 18:22
I can also appreciate Dawkins for taking a very literal Atheist approach to his views. But to that end I would love to see him pressed on Morality.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/22/2024 18:33
But equally I really love Peterson's disection of the Biblical texts because it also allows Christians to interpret the text from another angle, in a way that allows us to grow spiritally in line with Christ.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/22/2024 18:47
Peterson: "Are you more interested in people or things?" Dawkins: "I don't admit the question." End of interview Honestly really good question to leave him with.
18:48
Great interview.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I can also appreciate Dawkins for taking a very literal Atheist approach to his views. But to that end I would love to see him pressed on Morality.
Мико⚜🐾 10/22/2024 20:37
Atheists try to say the moral argument is "bad" but its really not.
Мико⚜🐾
royal doors from an old church
bongvain 10/22/2024 22:08
most effort ive ever seen on a door ❤️
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/22/2024 23:16
I am going to be organising music for class breaks on one day. guess what I went with. orthodox chants, mostly in polish and English. I want people to understand. not listen like it's ant regular song. the problem is that I don't have enough for >1h of breaks.
23:16
so I ask you for help.
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/22/2024 23:29
could you give me some more chants that are either in polish or English?
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
could you give me some more chants that are either in polish or English?
Мико⚜🐾 10/23/2024 15:24
https://youtu.be/nzBQNcnvRFc
Orthodox Christian Chants
A Beautiful Orthodox Christian Chant - Poland
15:26
i only have this one and bogurodzica
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/23/2024 15:34
thanks I have some
Blessed are you, o Lord (en)
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O virgin pure (en)
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The Body of Christ (pl)
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from my youth (pl)
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Psalm 135 (en)
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15:34
language in parentheses
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/23/2024 17:29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFp2AZBx8hE
Jordan B Peterson
Debating the Story of the Bronze Serpent | Dr. Richard Dawkins
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@Мико⚜🐾
Мико⚜🐾
i only have this one and bogurodzica
Мико⚜🐾 10/23/2024 17:30
https://youtu.be/8m8xNz0Ihyk
Polish Eagle
Bogurodzica - (The Oldest Polish Anthem)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFp2AZBx8hE
Мико⚜🐾 10/23/2024 17:39
"im a naive literalist"
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/23/2024 17:40
Well he's right.
17:40
I was really thinking about this in work today.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Well he's right.
Мико⚜🐾 10/23/2024 17:40
i mean, that is his position
17:40
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/23/2024 17:42
I don't know Dawkins's background but I presume he had it pretty well of and so he never really had to harden to life which I think in turn gave him the ability to put his emotions in the backseat. So he just comes off as immesurably cold. However I will say that, at least he is a true atheist to the bit. Because he at least seems to acknowledge spirit or humanity as being irrational.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/23/2024 17:42
Pretty much precisely what I was aiming at.
17:44
You can say evolution and adapability is a necessary component of human history and I would agree. But I also think "humanity" is equally important. I would probably call it "spirit" but humanity works too. That intangible thing, hinged on conscience and emotion which creates things like stories, art and culture. It's the basis for what it means to be a human and Dawkins doesn't seem at all in tune with that part.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/23/2024 17:44
You eventually will see the world, literally, as ones and zeroes and you won't be able to appreciate the nuance of things.
17:49
It's something similar that happened to me after I started learning RNG manipulation and how seeds work in Pokemon. Things like rare encounters, shinies and other things influenced by randomness no longer seem quite as magical as the used to, now that I can view how it functions from a very literal perspective. It takes the magic out of these things.
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𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/23/2024 17:51
Goethe's "Faust" is describing a very similar situation
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
You can say evolution and adapability is a necessary component of human history and I would agree. But I also think "humanity" is equally important. I would probably call it "spirit" but humanity works too. That intangible thing, hinged on conscience and emotion which creates things like stories, art and culture. It's the basis for what it means to be a human and Dawkins doesn't seem at all in tune with that part.
Мико⚜🐾 10/23/2024 17:52
well yeah, his bestie Daniel Dennett has essentially has denied the existence of conscience and the subjective human experience in order to maintain his rank Materialism (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
It's something similar that happened to me after I started learning RNG manipulation and how seeds work in Pokemon. Things like rare encounters, shinies and other things influenced by randomness no longer seem quite as magical as the used to, now that I can view how it functions from a very literal perspective. It takes the magic out of these things.
Мико⚜🐾 10/23/2024 17:53
I can understand what youre getting at here for sure
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
It's something similar that happened to me after I started learning RNG manipulation and how seeds work in Pokemon. Things like rare encounters, shinies and other things influenced by randomness no longer seem quite as magical as the used to, now that I can view how it functions from a very literal perspective. It takes the magic out of these things.
Extra-sensory PURRception 10/23/2024 17:54
Wait, what kind of RNG manipulation are you talking about here?
17:54
With coding, right?
Мико⚜🐾
well yeah, his bestie Daniel Dennett has essentially has denied the existence of conscience and the subjective human experience in order to maintain his rank Materialism (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/23/2024 17:55
Denying conscience is the biggest cope. The conscience argument is actually a brilliant comparison when talking about God - an unintangible thing which you know is there but cannot prove is there. Denying it is how you get around this argument.
17:55
Completely irrational.
Extra-sensory PURRception
With coding, right?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/23/2024 17:55
No.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
No.
Extra-sensory PURRception 10/23/2024 17:56
I'm guessing that it isn't by any paranormal practices though, right?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/23/2024 17:57
No... It's manipulating the RNG state of Pokemon games.
17:57
In order to force the game to produce outcomes you want.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
No... It's manipulating the RNG state of Pokemon games.
Extra-sensory PURRception 10/23/2024 17:58
But how?
17:58
Just changing the settings or what?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/23/2024 18:00
In the most simplist terms, starting up the game on an exact milisecond.
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Мико⚜🐾 10/24/2024 09:38
https://youtu.be/F_MIw4KG7Qk Sufism (incl. Ibn Arabi, ibn Sina) (edited)
Let's Talk Religion
The Unity of Being (Wahdat al-Wujud)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/25/2024 15:58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFAxuDApKD0
Jesus is truth
Halloween warning from an ex-witch (warning heavy talk)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/25/2024 16:09
Bless her, she's very passionate about this.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/26/2024 18:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCOC8Gar-5I
Impact Video Ministries
5 Reasons Why Christians Should Celebrate Halloween?
Zoraxe 10/28/2024 17:50
https://x.com/CatholicTV/status/1850904910180532432
CatholicTV (@CatholicTV) on X
The Vatican has unveiled the official mascot of the Holy Year 2025: Luce (Italian for Light). Archbishop Fisichella says the mascot was inspired by the Church's desire "to live even within the pop culture so beloved by our youth."
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NasCar 10/28/2024 17:57
ungen 10/28/2024 18:18
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Мико⚜🐾 10/28/2024 18:18
kino
ungen 10/28/2024 18:19
I lob her but I'm sad
Мико⚜🐾 10/28/2024 18:22
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ungen 10/28/2024 18:29
"Luce’s yellow sailor’s raincoat is a nod to both the Vatican flag and to journeying through life’s storms. The mascot’s muddy boots represent a long and difficult journey, while her staff symbolizes the pilgrimage toward eternity."
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/28/2024 19:06
SHE'S CUUUUUUTE
19:07
I have a mighty need to draw her.
19:11
"C'mon Anon! Let's go have Holy Communion together!"
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/28/2024 19:19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB893pUC9R8
Apologetics Roadshow
How Atheism Paves the Way for Islam (Richard Dawkins vs. Jordan Pet...
Мико⚜🐾 10/28/2024 19:53
Atheists have no basis to object against the rephrensible and alien "morality" of the Muslims
19:53
because they have made morals and truth subjective
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/28/2024 19:53
Literally
Мико⚜🐾 10/28/2024 19:53
You cannot have your cake and eat it. You can uphold what you think "Christian morality" is
19:54
but ultimately you have no true and solid basis for your claim "Christian morality is better than Islamic morality", nor the claim "we should uphold Christian values" (edited)
19:54
It's an empty subjective opinion and can and will be discarded as such as you are killed for being a polytheist
19:55
(Atheists are "polytheists" in Islam)
Мико⚜🐾
You cannot have your cake and eat it. You can uphold what you think "Christian morality" is
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/28/2024 20:03
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Zoraxe 10/28/2024 20:40
Wait, that's Tokidoki art too?
Zoraxe
Wait, that's Tokidoki art too?
Мико⚜🐾 10/28/2024 20:43
yeah, they designed the character
Zoraxe 10/28/2024 21:08
Very Interesting to see them partnered
ungen 10/29/2024 12:42
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/931748185926410256/1300756854019850251/1730194208774159.webm?ex=6721ffb8&is=6720ae38&hm=9b4605942d95e938cab886ab1c849d9110daec0e13cd29b43e65d0230191b0d4&
Zoraxe
Wait, that's Tokidoki art too?
ungen 10/29/2024 12:43
It might be joever
12:43
Zoraxe 10/29/2024 14:30
Uh oh
Zoraxe 10/29/2024 14:38
Didn't know they were doing that stuff. I guess I shouldn't be surprised because of it's association with "pop-culture", but the Vatican should be careful taking their designs from an entity also engaging in this.
Мико⚜🐾 10/29/2024 14:38
thats the point i made last night
14:38
talking to foxcel
ungen
It might be joever
serpente482 10/29/2024 16:53
Its a company
16:53
They just want money
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16:53
And fags are very prone to it
16:54
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Мико⚜🐾 10/29/2024 16:54
there wouldnt be pride merch if there was no demand for it
16:54
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/30/2024 11:44
https://x.com/heybinsu/status/1851214821083267509
Binsu (@heybinsu) on X
Don’t mess with Luce
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://x.com/heybinsu/status/1851214821083267509
Sogga 10/30/2024 15:11
who the fuck is this and why is it so popular
Sogga
who the fuck is this and why is it so popular
ungen 10/30/2024 15:11
Vatican's new mascot
Sogga 10/30/2024 15:12
no way
ungen 10/30/2024 15:15
ungen
Vatican's new mascot
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/30/2024 16:27
the mascot of the holy year 2025 selected by Vatican*
Мико⚜🐾 10/30/2024 17:33
Revelation 2:19-24 NKJV
BibleBot BOT 10/30/2024 17:33
Revelation 2:19-24 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<19> "I know your works, love, service, faith, and your patience; and as for your works, the last are more than the first. <20> Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. <21> And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. <22> Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. <23> I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works. <24> "Now to you I say, and to the rest in Thyatira, as many as do not have this doctrine, who have not known the depths of Satan, as they say, I will put on you no other burden.
ungen 10/31/2024 04:14
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Мико⚜🐾 10/31/2024 06:52
Acts 8:26-40 nkjv
BibleBot BOT 10/31/2024 06:52
Acts 8:26-40 - New King James Version (NKJV)
Christ Is Preached to an Ethiopian
<26> Now an angel of the Lord spoke to Philip, saying, "Arise and go toward the south along the road which goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza." This is desert. <27> So he arose and went. And behold, a man of Ethiopia, a eunuch of great authority under Candace the queen of the Ethiopians, who had charge of all her treasury, and had come to Jerusalem to worship, <28> was returning. And sitting in his chariot, he was reading Isaiah the prophet. <29> Then the Spirit said to Philip, "Go near and overtake this chariot." <30> So Philip ran to him, and heard him reading the prophet Isaiah, and said, "Do you understand what you are reading?" <31> And he said, "How can I, unless someone guides me?" And he asked Philip to come up and sit with him. <32> The place in the Scripture which he read was this: "He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; And as a lamb before its shearer is silent, So He opened not His mouth. <33> In His humiliation His justice was taken away, And who will declare His generation? For His life is taken from the earth." <34> So the eunuch answered Philip and said, "I ask you, of whom does the prophet say this, of himself or of some other man?" <35> Then Philip opened his mouth, and beginning at this Scripture, preached Jesus to him. <36> Now as they went down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said, "See, here is water. What hinders me from being baptized?" <37> Then Philip said, "If you believe with all your heart, you may." And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." <38> So he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him. <39> Now when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught Philip away, so that the eunuch saw him no more; and he went on his way rejoicing. <40> But Philip was found at Azotus. And passing through, he preached in all the cities till he came to Caesarea.
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Мико⚜🐾 10/31/2024 06:53
'So Philip ran to him, and heard him reading the prophet Isaiah, and said: "Do you understand what you are reading?" And he said: "How can I, unless someone guides me?" And he asked Philip to come up and sit with him.'
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NasCar 10/31/2024 13:32
I understand both the hate and love towards her
13:32
on one end she's cute
13:33
but at the same time it feels like the church is trying to adapt to others instead of people adapting towards the church
13:33
I know she's supposed to be a gateway towards christianity but still
13:33
whenever I see her I just think of steve buccemi saying "how do you do fellow kids?"
NasCar
whenever I see her I just think of steve buccemi saying "how do you do fellow kids?"
ungen 10/31/2024 13:36
Yeah it's retarded but she's funnny
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NasCar 10/31/2024 13:36
she looks funny yeah
13:36
hoping people make racist edits with her
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ungen 10/31/2024 13:36
I'm not exactly putting a lot of thought into it
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 10/31/2024 15:07
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Мико⚜🐾 10/31/2024 15:51
"When He wishes to say something about Himself, He uses human images. As for instance, He went up to the mountain, and was transfigured before them, and His face shone as the light, and His garments became white as snow. He revealed, he says, a little of His divinity, He showed them the indwelling God … The Evangelist, then, wanted to show His brilliance, and so he says, He shone. How did He shine? Tell me. Exceedingly. And how do you say? As the sun … Why do you say so? Because I have no other star brighter. And He was white, as snow. Why as snow? Because I have no other matter whiter. That He did not shine in this way is indicated by the following: And the disciples fell to the ground. If He had shone as the sun, the disciples would not have fallen (for they saw the sun every day, and did not fall); but because He shone more than the sun and more than the snow, that is why, unable to bear the brilliance, they fell down."
`St. John Chrysostom, Homily 56 on Matthew (Matthew 17)`
Мико⚜🐾 10/31/2024 16:14
https://youtu.be/n3BqLZ8UoZk
Jeremiah Films
Banned Mormon Cartoon - EXTENDED VERSION
AaWoolf 10/31/2024 22:21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVcjSknXFm8
Crossbearer
Carry Your Cross
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Arcane BOT 10/31/2024 22:21
@AaWoolf has reached level 1. GG!
ungen 11/01/2024 04:46
Мико⚜🐾 11/01/2024 08:23
https://www.youtube.com/live/HStUcaLL3Co
Jeem
Intro to Religion & the Natural World
NasCar 11/02/2024 13:33
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/02/2024 14:28
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Мико⚜🐾 11/02/2024 14:56
https://youtu.be/PbpmI5UC784
The Altar of Reason
How Christ’s Birth Transformed Humanity and Creation with @Anandaap...
AaWoolf 11/02/2024 22:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeX9pxlmnbs yalls thoughts?
Redeemed Zoomer
Different denominations are a GOOD THING??
22:45
well I do believe we should try to unite Christianity
AaWoolf
well I do believe we should try to unite Christianity
bongvain 11/03/2024 02:34
someday here, or in heaven
AaWoolf
well I do believe we should try to unite Christianity
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/03/2024 09:35
we need a council
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/03/2024 09:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39YFVZoxuTM
Impact Video Ministries
Catholics Vs Protestants: Who is Right?
09:37
Relevant
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Sogga 11/03/2024 15:01
im the snowman
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/03/2024 18:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbNAZTN4Exw
FS.ryanwalker
How to BREAK Your ENDLESS Cycle of SIN!
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18:52
God bless this guy.
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bongvain 11/04/2024 02:58
1 month 22 days
02:58
jesus birthday
02:58
ungen 11/04/2024 19:01
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/04/2024 19:05
Jesus is risen and he is cross
Sogga 11/04/2024 22:59
i always thought Jesus was depicted as having the nails bolted to his wrists instead of his palms, thoughts?
Sogga
i always thought Jesus was depicted as having the nails bolted to his wrists instead of his palms, thoughts?
Мико⚜🐾 11/05/2024 04:11
both are done
04:11
through the wrists is more realistic
04:11
through the hands is more traditional and symbolic
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/05/2024 16:56
serpente482 11/05/2024 17:06
islam has its things
17:06
but mormonis is straight up a fanfiction made by a self centered american
Мико⚜🐾 11/05/2024 17:50
https://youtu.be/V1fKxGkS2Tc
Orthodox Wisdom
Signs of the Times: Antichrist, Zionism, & Jews - St. Paisios the A...
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/06/2024 09:27
Mormonism is the most fanfic of fanfic religions.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/06/2024 11:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWw4ppkJUJQ
Impact Video Ministries
How to Endure Christian Persecution
Мико⚜🐾 11/06/2024 15:55
https://youtu.be/KX-d29jVpAw
Jeem
Old Testament Violence and Responding to Evil
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/06/2024 16:56
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which is more obvious in its falsehood?
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GR 11/06/2024 19:22
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
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Мико⚜🐾 11/06/2024 19:24
shia islam has coherent-ish metaphysics
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mormons literally believe in an infinite regress of gods that their god "Adonai" descends from, and that his children (us) as a result are also co-eternal (edited)
Zoraxe 11/06/2024 21:28
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𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/06/2024 22:30
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Мико⚜🐾 11/07/2024 09:14
https://web.archive.org/web/20130209052842/http://www.mospat.ru/en/documents/social-concepts/xii
XII. Problems of bioethics : Department for External Church Relat...
NasCar 11/07/2024 11:39
@Мико⚜🐾 is this guy correct or just speaking babble
NasCar
@Мико⚜🐾 is this guy correct or just speaking babble
Мико⚜🐾 11/07/2024 11:41
hes talking pure shit
NasCar 11/07/2024 11:41
Damn
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Can you show me the part where he's wrong so I can show it to him?
Мико⚜🐾 11/07/2024 11:46
Matthew 5:22 DRA Matthew 18:8-9 DRA Matthew 25:31-46 DRA
BibleBot BOT 11/07/2024 11:46
Matthew 5:22 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<22> But I say to you, that whosoever is angry with his brother, shall be in danger of the judgment. And whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council. And whosoever shall say, Thou Fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
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Matthew 18:8-9 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<8> And if thy hand, or thy foot scandalize thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee. It is better for thee to go into life maimed or lame, than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into everlasting fire. <9> And if thy eye scandalize thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee. It is better for thee having one eye to enter into life, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
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Matthew 25:31-46 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<31> And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. <32> And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: <33> And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. <34> Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. <35> For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in: <36> Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. <37> Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? <38> And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? <39> Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? <40> And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me. <41> Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels. <42> For I was hungry, and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me not to drink. <43> I was a stranger, and you took me not in: naked, and you covered me not: sick and in prison, and you did not visit me. <44> Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? <45> Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me. <46> And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting.
Мико⚜🐾 11/07/2024 11:47
1 Peter 3:18-19 DRA 2 Peter 2:1-10 DRA Ephesians 4:4-10 DRA
BibleBot BOT 11/07/2024 11:47
1 Peter 3:18-19 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<18> Because Christ also died once for our sins, the just for the unjust: that he might offer us to God, being put to death indeed in the flesh, but enlivened in the spirit, <19> In which also coming he preached to those spirits that were in prison:
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2 Peter 2:1-10 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<1> But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there shall be among you lying teachers, who shall bring in sects of perdition, and deny the Lord who bought them: bringing upon themselves swift destruction. <2> And many shall follow their riotousnesses, through whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. <3> And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you. Whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their perdition slumbereth not. <4> For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but delivered them, drawn down by infernal ropes to the lower hell, unto torments, to be reserved unto judgment: <5> And spared not the original world, but preserved Noe, the eighth person, the preacher of justice, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly. <6> And reducing the cities of the Sodomites, and of the Gomorrhites, into ashes, condemned them to be overthrown, making them an example to those that should after act wickedly. <7> And delivered just Lot, oppressed by the injustice and lewd conversation of the wicked. <8> For in sight and hearing he was just: dwelling among them, who from day to day vexed the just soul with unjust works. <9> The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly from temptation, but to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be tormented. <10> And especially them who walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government, audacious, self willed, they fear not to bring in sects, blaspheming.
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Ephesians 4:4-10 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<4> One body and one Spirit; as you are called in one hope of your calling. <5> One Lord, one faith, one baptism. <6> One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in us all. <7> But to every one of us is given grace, according to the measure of the giving of Christ. <8> Wherefore he saith: Ascending on high, he led captivity captive; he gave gifts to men. <9> Now that he ascended, what is it, but because he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? <10> He that descended is the same also that ascended above all the heavens, that he might fill all things.
NasCar 11/07/2024 11:48
Thanks bro
Мико⚜🐾
Matthew 5:22 DRA Matthew 18:8-9 DRA Matthew 25:31-46 DRA
NasCar 11/07/2024 11:55
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Мико⚜🐾 11/07/2024 11:57
the beliefs regarding the afterlife sort of developed over time not only in the Bible but also within OT Jewish thought innit So, in the OT, it is understood that all are indiscriminately sent to "Sheol"
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"the grave" as you could put it, a place of silence and darkness Job 10:21
BibleBot BOT 11/07/2024 11:58
Job 10:21 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<21> Before I go whence I shall not return, To a land of darkness and gloominess;
Мико⚜🐾 11/07/2024 11:59
by the 2nd temple period, it is understood among many of the Jews in light of interpretation from further revelation in the Tanakh and in the Apocryphal books (i.e. Enoch) that Sheol has several sections
12:00
this sort of idea is parroted in Luke 16, with the parable of St. Lazarus and the rich man, and was the view held by the early Christians
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/07/2024 12:00
it's more rational to say heaven is a new concept in NT than hell
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Мико⚜🐾 11/07/2024 12:01
The doctrine of a hell of sorts is in the OT
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its just further fleshed out over time, and sees its final development in the NT. Progressive revelation
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
it's more rational to say heaven is a new concept in NT than hell
Мико⚜🐾 11/07/2024 12:01
yes, because the doctrine on Heaven in the OT is far more vague than that of sheol, the waiting place
NasCar 11/07/2024 12:02
Do you guys want me to invite the guy so he can have a small chat here?
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/07/2024 12:02
also 1st or 2nd Timothy talks about what is known as harrowing of hell (edited)
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NasCar 11/07/2024 12:02
Because I'm not equipped to talk about these sort of things
NasCar
Do you guys want me to invite the guy so he can have a small chat here?
ungen 11/07/2024 12:03
Hopefully he won't scroll up and reportfag us.
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Because we're le evil chuds o algo.
Мико⚜🐾 11/07/2024 12:04
is he trustworthy? i would much prefer to be added to a groupchat
Мико⚜🐾
is he trustworthy? i would much prefer to be added to a groupchat
NasCar 11/07/2024 12:04
Tru
12:04
That's better
Мико⚜🐾
by the 2nd temple period, it is understood among many of the Jews in light of interpretation from further revelation in the Tanakh and in the Apocryphal books (i.e. Enoch) that Sheol has several sections
Мико⚜🐾 11/07/2024 12:05
and yes, apocryphal books can have truth in them and even be pious reading without being accepted into the canon (edited)
ungen
Hopefully he won't scroll up and reportfag us.
NasCar 11/07/2024 12:05
He doesn't report people
12:06
He's a bit of a libtard but he's not a fag
NasCar 11/07/2024 17:30
@Мико⚜🐾 seems like you quickly changed his mind lol
ungen 11/07/2024 19:22
https://x.com/FreezeMo/status/1854578639129497991
FreezeMo (@FreezeMo) on X
LUCE MICE
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ungen
https://x.com/FreezeMo/status/1854578639129497991
NasCar 11/08/2024 01:50
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/08/2024 18:01
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Bn 11/08/2024 21:07
The word hell is mentioned the most times in the Bible
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Tell him that
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Or the description of it
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/08/2024 21:52
Isa 7:14
BibleBot BOT 11/08/2024 21:52
Isaiah 7:14 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<14> Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign. Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and his name shall be called Emmanuel.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/08/2024 22:14
https://fixupx.com/realrikkidoolan/status/1854271103683957116
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What makes you think @Debenhams that it is ok to insult the Christian faith in such a disgusting way as this? Do you think it’s right to freely mock our faith and God like this? We need answers and now.
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You will not mock my Lord.
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I'm doing my part.
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/08/2024 22:25
https://x.com/goob_goob_goob/status/1855000128652029984
✝️ Catholic Goob, The 2nd (@goob_goob_goob) on X
Just noticed that Luce has scoliosis
ungen 11/08/2024 22:27
Joever
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/08/2024 23:47
GM ◇GR ⇒ ∃P GR (P) GR ∵ GM P ∈ a (a) GR the ontological argument G = God M = maximally great being R = is He real P = possible world a = actual world (edited)
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as you can see here you can only attack the first premise this makes the argument very strong
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and you're going to have a hard time attacking it because possibility is assumed as the default state
Bn
Or the description of it
Мико⚜🐾 11/09/2024 01:33
i had a long discussion with him about the topic
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he wasnt being bad faith at all, so it went very well
Мико⚜🐾 11/09/2024 19:28
@Sogga
Мико⚜🐾
@Sogga
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/09/2024 19:28
this photo was in Bulgaria near the capital btw
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𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/11/2024 22:39
I'm checking both of the Santa decides accounts on twitter for historical knowledge by asking on what list is Arius
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𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/11/2024 23:02
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/11/2024 23:08
In the name of Christ Jesus, I will desolate his enemies.
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Those who oppose my Lord will kneel.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/12/2024 17:59
https://fixupx.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1856307859656425552
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Hmm
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://fixupx.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1856307859656425552
Мико⚜🐾 11/12/2024 18:01
bro got cooked
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and yeah, hes right His leadership has led to less than a million weekly attendees in the CofE
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/12/2024 18:03
https://fixupx.com/toadmeister/status/1833037782010266085
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https://fixupx.com/CConcern/status/1856310943170375958
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Christian Concern (@CConcern)
Rev. Dr Bernard Randall is in the High Court now seeking permission for Judicial Review on this case... it is also being reported that Justin Welby is on his way to see the King... An extraordinary situation. Pray for justice for Bernard. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/12/justin-welby-wrong-blacklisting-gender-critical-chaplain/ Q...
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Мико⚜🐾 11/12/2024 18:03
those who didnt become non-church goers, theyve all left for Catholicism, Evangelist groups or Orthodoxy (edited)
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not that it matters to him anyway
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/12/2024 18:03
Get this man back in the Church
Мико⚜🐾 11/12/2024 18:03
hes probably an Origenist
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heck, he probably doesnt even believe in God
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and thinks the resurrection is a metaphor for rebirth or something
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/12/2024 18:05
He was a clearly a marxist puppet who was allowed to be set up in the church
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Our heavenly Father will not be happy about him preaching a false message in His church and turning so many followers away.
Мико⚜🐾 11/12/2024 18:08
true
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/12/2024 18:09
Gang we won so hard it hit the papers
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I did my part.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://fixupx.com/toadmeister/status/1833037782010266085
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/12/2024 18:47
Also tbh I'd want Calvin Robinson to lead the Church of England but he fled the country so he's lost some good boy points for that.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/12/2024 21:34
https://fixupx.com/BishopDewar/status/1856401655555842497
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Bishop Ceirion H. Dewar FSHC (@BishopDewar)
I’m fully ready and willing to take on the reigns of the Anglican Church as the next Archbishop of Canterbury…my first act after my appointment is to reinstate Fr Bernard Randall, then I will ban non Christian prayers in Churches, and set Christ back at the heart of the Church!
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Based
Мико⚜🐾 11/14/2024 05:55
Мико⚜🐾 11/14/2024 20:40
https://vxtwitter.com/AngloVarangian/status/1856812597099757693
Twitter
Anglo Varangian (@AngloVarangian)
Tradcaths in their stupidity got duped again. I just did some background research on the actor portraying Mary in this film and turns out she's talmudic jew occult yoga instructor and helped make a film whitewashing Azerbaijan's ethnic cleansing of 120,000 Christians in Artsakh. 【QRT of The Religious Hippie (@HippieReligious):】 'Alrigh…
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the insult at the beginning but yeah, we dont fw this movie
ungen 11/15/2024 13:14
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𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
thanks I have some
Blessed are you, o Lord (en)
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O virgin pure (en)
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The Body of Christ (pl)
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from my youth (pl)
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Psalm 135 (en)
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𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/15/2024 21:03
regarding this I found a gold mine of chants for the breaks it's posted on #🎛music
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/15/2024 21:29
you might also soon see a lot of orthodox chants in English and Polish sent as audio files (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/16/2024 15:57
These depict: >The annunciation in Luke 1 >The baptism of Jesus >The "trinity" of angels in Genesis 18, 1 of whom was the pre-incarnate Christ (edited)
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These are: >Apostle John >Mary >Gregory the Theologian >Apostle Andrew, the first-called >Archangels Gabriel and Michael >John the Forerunner (edited)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE1az7YDA5M all of these including the one talked about in this video were done by Andrei Rublyov
Patristix
The "Trinity" Icon
Мико⚜🐾 11/16/2024 17:00
'It should be pointed out that in pre-lslamic literature, and during the time of the revelation of the Qur'an, pronouns do not appear to have been used as indicative of status; they did not change with social status, and the plural of majesty, in particular, does not appear to have been used by, or for addressing or referring to, kings or chiefs. The Prophet and his early successors did not use it for themselves nor in their letters to address kings or governors. It was clearly in the Qur'an that such usage was introduced, as has been shown, on the basis of a highly sophisticated application of the concept of plurality.'
`M. A. S. Abdel Haleem, 'Grammatical Shift For Rhetorical Purposes: lltifat and Related Features in the Qur'an'`
Мико⚜🐾 11/16/2024 20:04
Мико⚜🐾 11/17/2024 09:04
seeing this myrrh streaming icon later today insh'ilah
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Мико⚜🐾 11/17/2024 13:09
https://biblearchaeology.org/research/patriarchal-era/2364-the-discovery-of-the-sin-cities-of-sodom-and-gomorrah?__cf_chl_tk=i4nwv8bicrzw1mvj9qd6dz1sozi0nssgjfswbeucky8-1731848526-1.0.1.1-dbaslgpsl97g3uvr4eei.z5ef_al8oagnpaxvi59opm
The Discovery of the Sin Cities of Sodom & Gomorrah
Archaeological, geographical, and other lines of evidence clearly show that Sodom and Gomorrah have been found at Bab edh-Dhra and Numeira.
NasCar 11/17/2024 13:34
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1034485363042943007/1306815918999076874/VID_50440320_114106_219.mp4?ex=673a04ea&is=6738b36a&hm=d73619b92922f3afeb56a5490aa5782ef2ddd6e2d6010b775a071404e60f396f&
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/17/2024 19:46
@Мико⚜🐾 Why did Sodom and Gamorah fall?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 Why did Sodom and Gamorah fall?
Sogga 11/17/2024 20:10
acts of wickedness
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/17/2024 20:13
basically what sogga said
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but more in depth it was inhospitability and sodomy
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so in other words homosexuality and rape and inhospitability
ungen 11/18/2024 16:47
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𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/18/2024 18:15
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Мико⚜🐾 11/19/2024 16:14
https://www.wionews.com/science/archaeologists-find-first-jesus-is-god-inscription-in-israeli-prison-call-it-greatest-discovery-777420
Archaeologists find first 'Jesus is God' inscription in Israeli pri...
The earliest inscription of 'Jesus is God' was found on the floor of an Israeli prison and has been put on display in the United States. The discovery has been called "the greatest discovery since the Dead Sea Scrolls" by the researchers. An inmate of the Megiddo prison found that 1,800-year-old mosaic which featured the ancient Greek writing:...
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>"The Trinity was invented at Nicaea!"
Мико⚜🐾
>"The Trinity was invented at Nicaea!"
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/19/2024 16:18
My History and Present teacher said that it was invented at The first council of Constantinople while many indications of the trinity are in the old and new testament and also in early Christian churches
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like Gen 1:1
BibleBot BOT 11/19/2024 16:18
Genesis 1:1 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<1> In the beginning God created heaven, and earth.
Мико⚜🐾 11/19/2024 16:19
what about the writings of Ss. Dionysius and Athenagoras?
Мико⚜🐾
what about the writings of Ss. Dionysius and Athenagoras?
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/19/2024 16:19
?
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
My History and Present teacher said that it was invented at The first council of Constantinople while many indications of the trinity are in the old and new testament and also in early Christian churches
Мико⚜🐾 11/19/2024 16:19
even some Jewish scholars no longer argue for such a thing
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
?
Мико⚜🐾 11/19/2024 16:20
early church fathers who are explicitly trinitarian
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Athenagoras coins the term, and Dionysius as a convert by Paul is important too (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
early church fathers who are explicitly trinitarian
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/19/2024 16:20
ah
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
like Gen 1:1
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/19/2024 16:21
you don't see it in Amy translation though it's in the original Elohim is a plural form in Hebrew.
Мико⚜🐾 11/19/2024 16:21
yup
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and the concept of the "plural of majesty" doesnt exist in Biblical or Aramaicized Hebrew (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
and the concept of the "plural of majesty" doesnt exist in Biblical or Aramaicized Hebrew (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/19/2024 16:22
thats what some Muslims will try to argue when you point out Genesis 1.1 and v27-28
Мико⚜🐾
'It should be pointed out that in pre-lslamic literature, and during the time of the revelation of the Qur'an, pronouns do not appear to have been used as indicative of status; they did not change with social status, and the plural of majesty, in particular, does not appear to have been used by, or for addressing or referring to, kings or chiefs. The Prophet and his early successors did not use it for themselves nor in their letters to address kings or governors. It was clearly in the Qur'an that such usage was introduced, as has been shown, on the basis of a highly sophisticated application of the concept of plurality.'
`M. A. S. Abdel Haleem, 'Grammatical Shift For Rhetorical Purposes: lltifat and Related Features in the Qur'an'`
Мико⚜🐾 11/19/2024 16:23
this is another interesting thing to note regarding that plural
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/19/2024 16:23
and also the the angels that appeared to Abraham
Мико⚜🐾 11/19/2024 16:23
Yeah Angels cant be worshipped as literally God (edited)
16:23
thats idolatry
16:23
Hagar says she "sees God"
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/19/2024 16:23
it was a Christophany
Мико⚜🐾 11/19/2024 16:23
what does it mean to do that
16:24
the "Word of God" appears before Abraham in a vison
Мико⚜🐾
the "Word of God" appears before Abraham in a vison
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/19/2024 16:24
yeah
Мико⚜🐾 11/19/2024 16:24
That wasnt words floating around his head or a hallucination
16:24
because God speaks to Him using only a voice in other passages. Like Genesis 18 and 19 (edited)
16:24
Genesis 15:1
BibleBot BOT 11/19/2024 16:24
Genesis 15:1 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<1> And after these things the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram, I shield thee, thy reward shall be very great.
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/19/2024 16:24
Look John 1:1-5
BibleBot BOT 11/19/2024 16:24
John 1:1-5 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<1> In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. <2> The same was in the beginning with God. <3> All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made. <4> In him was life, and the life was the light of men. <5> And the light shineth in darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian pinned a message to this channel. 11/19/2024 16:37
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/21/2024 14:32
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Blackdog 11/21/2024 18:59
Andrei Bodko - Always Near You collection
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Blackdog
Andrei Bodko - Always Near You collection
GR 11/21/2024 19:22
love these
Blackdog
Andrei Bodko - Always Near You collection
NasCar 11/21/2024 20:25
what was that painting
20:25
of jesus coming down from the skies
20:26
and soldiers from all countries kneeling down
20:27
found it
20:27
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Мико⚜🐾 11/22/2024 07:50
https://x.com/rustyrockets/status/1858504068257202361
Russell Brand (@rustyrockets) on X
“Christ is the only exit from this world. All other exits - sexual rapture, political utopia, economic independence - are but blind alleys in which rot the corpses of the many who have tried them.” Seraphim Rose
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/23/2024 23:35
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Мико⚜🐾 11/24/2024 05:36
'We took with us the boy Adeodatus, born of me carnally, of my sin. You had made him well, as he was of our kin. He was of about fifteen years, and he outstripped many learned men in all kinds of knowledge. I praise You, O my God, our common Creator, for the gifts You had bestowed upon him... In him Your gifts have been displayed: the boy was very intelligent, wonderful indeed.'
'What conversations I held with him! He showed an intelligence that filled me with awe. If I found no support for him save You, then I believed You would give me solace.'
'Soon You took that life from this world. He was not yet sixteen when You took him from me; and he now lives in the bosom of Your mercy.'
`Saint Augustine, writing about his late son, Adeodatus (Gift-of-God)` (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/24/2024 07:09
"Let us praise the great Augustine, a divine Hierarch of Christ's Church and a wise guide; a renowned theologian of the city on high, a lover of prayer, and a pillar of repentance Intercede with the Lord, that He may have mercy on our souls." "You sought the heights... You received the light of Christ in your heart, and being in this light, and illumining the faithful with light, you burned the enemies with your wise writings; O blessed Father Augustine, always intercede with Christ for all of us."
`Troparian and Kontakion to St. Augustine of Hippo, Tone IV and II` https://youtu.be/5XplwbTqzSc https://youtu.be/cI-DYrWLVsg (edited)
Ryan Reeves
Augustine (Part 1)
Ryan Reeves
Augustine (Part 2)
Мико⚜🐾 11/24/2024 08:05
Orthodox Dogmatic Theology series by St. Dumitru Stăniloae Reading Vol 1, would recommend this over anything else for understanding Eastern Christianity (edited)
6_Orthodox_Dogmatic_Theology_Volume_6_-_The_Fulfillment_of_Creation_-_Dumitru_Staniloae.pdf
6.29 MB
5_Orthodox_Dogmatic_Theology_Volume_5_-_The_Sanctifying_Mysteries_-_Dumitru_Staniloae.pdf
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4_Orthodox_Dogmatic_Theology_Volume_4_-_The_Church_-_Communion_in_the_Holy_Spirit_-_Dumitru_Staniloae.pdf
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3_Orthodox_Dogmatic_Theology_Volume_3_-_The_Person_of_Jesus_Christ_as_God_and_Savior_-_Dumitru_Staniloae.pdf
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2_Orthodox_Dogmatic_Theology_Volume_2_-_The_World_-_Creation_and_Deification_-_Dumitru_Staniloae.pdf
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1_Orthodox_Dogmatic_Theology_Volume_1_-_The_Experience_of_God_-_Dumitru_Staniloae.pdf
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Мико⚜🐾 11/24/2024 10:29
ungen 11/24/2024 13:44
https://x.com/nypost/status/1859244051595194643
New York Post (@nypost) on X
This church has an AI Jesus for confessions: ‘It gave me so much advice’ https://t.co/459fTPPT5J
13:45
Seems rather disrespectful.
Мико⚜🐾 11/24/2024 13:45
It is
13:45
And I hope the bishop of that diocese defrocks whoever did it.
ungen
https://x.com/nypost/status/1859244051595194643
bongvain 11/24/2024 14:09
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/24/2024 23:43
O Lord, Almighty God of our fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and of their righteous seed; who hast made heaven and earth, with all the ornament thereof; who hast bound the sea by the word of thy commandment; who hast shut up the deep, and sealed it by thy terrible and glorious name; whom all men fear, and tremble before thy power; for the majesty of thy glory cannot be borne, and thine angry threatening toward sinners is importable: but thy merciful promise is unmeasurable and unsearchable; for thou art the most high Lord, of great compassion, longsuffering, very merciful, and repentest of the evils of men. Thou, O Lord, according to thy great goodness hast promised repentance and forgiveness to them that have sinned against thee: and of thine infinite mercies hast appointed repentance unto sinners, that they may be saved. Thou therefore, O Lord, that art the God of the just, hast not appointed repentance to the just, as to Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, which have not sinned against thee; but thou hast appointed repentance unto me that am a sinner: for I have sinned above the number of the sands of the sea. My transgressions,
23:43
O Lord, are multiplied: my transgressions are multiplied, and I am not worthy to behold and see the height of heaven for the multitude of mine iniquities. I am bowed down with many iron bands, that I cannot lift up mine head, neither have any release: for I have provoked thy wrath, and done evil before thee: I did not thy will, neither kept I thy commandments: I have set up abominations, and have multiplied offences. Now therefore I bow the knee of mine heart, beseeching thee of grace. I have sinned, O Lord, I have sinned, and I acknowledge mine iniquities: wherefore, I humbly beseech thee, forgive me, O Lord, forgive me, and destroy me not with mine iniquities. Be not angry with me for ever, by reserving evil for me; neither condemn me to the lower parts of the earth. For thou art the God, even the God of them that repent; and in me thou wilt shew all thy goodness: for thou wilt save me, that am unworthy, according to thy great mercy. Therefore I will praise thee for ever all the days of my life: for all the powers of the heavens do praise thee, and thine is the glory for ever and ever. Amen. (Prayer of Manasseh, KJV) (edited)
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Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 13:37
https://vxtwitter.com/hayasaka_aryan/status/1860876501144711356
Twitter
Kaguya’s Top Gal (@hayasaka_aryan)
“Why were so many Christmas songs written by jewish people?”
Мико⚜🐾
https://vxtwitter.com/hayasaka_aryan/status/1860876501144711356
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/25/2024 13:37
Chat, is this real?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Chat, is this real?
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 13:38
yes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/25/2024 13:38
Why are Jews writing songs singing praise for Christ if they don't believe he is God?
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 13:39
only sing old hymns and akathists
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Why are Jews writing songs singing praise for Christ if they don't believe he is God?
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 13:50
Well christmas came from an old pagan holiday that was hijaked by christians
Eurocyon
Well christmas came from an old pagan holiday that was hijaked by christians
serpente482 11/25/2024 14:34
serpente482
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:34
14:35
Your fat diabetic mother groomed you
serpente482 11/25/2024 14:35
Euro try not to have the most bland and repeated by retarded mainstream opinions challenge IMPOSSIBLE!
serpente482
Euro try not to have the most bland and repeated by retarded mainstream opinions challenge IMPOSSIBLE!
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:35
"see when facts disagree with me that how you know facts are wrong"
14:35
yea yea shut up stupid nigger, kys
14:36
save some oxegen for the rest of us
Eurocyon
"see when facts disagree with me that how you know facts are wrong"
serpente482 11/25/2024 14:36
14:38
Euro when somebody doesnt believe in the new goyfacts shared by reddit university (they are correct because tv cartoons say so)
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serpente482
Euro when somebody doesnt believe in the new goyfacts shared by reddit university (they are correct because tv cartoons say so)
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:39
why am I reddit when I am racist
14:40
see you're so extreme i seem leftist to you
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 14:41
Christmas, nor Easter, are Pagan
Мико⚜🐾
Christmas, nor Easter, are Pagan
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:41
christmas is pagan easter is christian
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 14:41
this has been refuted before (edited)
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:42
sorry chud
Мико⚜🐾
this has been refuted before (edited)
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:42
Christmas dates to germanic pagans chud
Eurocyon
why am I reddit when I am racist
serpente482 11/25/2024 14:42
Eurocyon
Christmas dates to germanic pagans chud
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 14:42
No? people were celebrating before Nicaea
14:42
in the 200s, in Asia Minor dude
serpente482 11/25/2024 14:42
Christmas is when i buy stuff and put a tree wirh lights o algo
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Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 14:42
nothing to do with Germanic paganism
Мико⚜🐾
No? people were celebrating before Nicaea
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:45
It's been celebrated since germanic pagan shamans since BCE
Eurocyon
It's been celebrated since germanic pagan shamans since BCE
serpente482 11/25/2024 14:46
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 14:46
It wasnt celebrated as 'Christmas' just because theyre celebrated at the same time, it doesnt mean theyre the same thing
14:47
Also, in what way could Germanic pagan practices trickle down to Greeks in Asia Minor?
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:47
the tradition came form shamans who got high of shrooms picturing a red figure who'd gift things to them, the tradition was lived throuhg by gifting swords and food to one anothe rafter that. It didn't really involve children until after St. Peter, then it evolved after that into what we have it to know.
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Eurocyon
the tradition came form shamans who got high of shrooms picturing a red figure who'd gift things to them, the tradition was lived throuhg by gifting swords and food to one anothe rafter that. It didn't really involve children until after St. Peter, then it evolved after that into what we have it to know.
serpente482 11/25/2024 14:48
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 14:48
The day we dedicate to Christ's birthday was based on the early 'theologoumenon', or theological opinion, that Christ was conceived and died on the day of the Spring Equinox (edited)
Eurocyon
the tradition came form shamans who got high of shrooms picturing a red figure who'd gift things to them, the tradition was lived throuhg by gifting swords and food to one anothe rafter that. It didn't really involve children until after St. Peter, then it evolved after that into what we have it to know.
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/25/2024 14:48
Source: Reddit and random Jewtube video
Eurocyon
the tradition came form shamans who got high of shrooms picturing a red figure who'd gift things to them, the tradition was lived throuhg by gifting swords and food to one anothe rafter that. It didn't really involve children until after St. Peter, then it evolved after that into what we have it to know.
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:48
Conviently this happens around winter solstice, so it was often celebrated then
Мико⚜🐾
The day we dedicate to Christ's birthday was based on the early 'theologoumenon', or theological opinion, that Christ was conceived and died on the day of the Spring Equinox (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 14:49
They also held to the opinion that the 8th day since creation was did Spring Equinox day, which is March 25th on the Gregorian Calendar (edited)
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:49
The whole idea of christmas tree came from the germanics, last time i check spruce trees did not exist in greece
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 14:49
Whether this is true or not
14:49
That is why Christmas is on Dec 25th
14:49
it has nothing to do with Paganism
Мико⚜🐾
it has nothing to do with Paganism
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:50
It came from Asatruism chud
14:50
sorry but it doesn't come from you based and red pilled greeks o algo
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 14:50
Youre an idiot sometimes (edited)
Eurocyon
The whole idea of christmas tree came from the germanics, last time i check spruce trees did not exist in greece
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/25/2024 14:50
Even if this is true, you're still celebrating Christ's birth which doesn't have anything to do with paganism. (edited)
Arcane BOT 11/25/2024 14:50
@Extra-sensory PURRception has reached level 38. GG!
Eurocyon
The whole idea of christmas tree came from the germanics, last time i check spruce trees did not exist in greece
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 14:51
Thats untrue, because the book of Jeremiah, written centuries before Christ, notes the decaration of trees in a negative light Jeremiah was recording pagans doing such things in the Levant (edited)
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:51
"In Scandinavia, the Norse celebrated Yule from December 21, the winter solstice, through January. In recognition of the return of the sun, fathers and sons would bring home large logs, which they would set on fire. The people would feast until the log burned out, which could take as many as 12 days. The Norse believed that each spark from the fire represented a new pig or calf that would be born during the coming year. The end of December was a perfect time for celebration in most areas of Europe. At that time of year, most cattle were slaughtered so they would not have to be fed during the winter. For many, it was the only time of year when they had a supply of fresh meat. In addition, most wine and beer made during the year was finally fermented and ready for drinking. In Germany, people honored the pagan god Oden during the mid-winter holiday. Germans were terrified of Oden, as they believed he made nocturnal flights through the sky to observe his people, and then decide who would prosper or perish. Because of his presence, many people chose to stay inside."
Eurocyon
The whole idea of christmas tree came from the germanics, last time i check spruce trees did not exist in greece
serpente482 11/25/2024 14:51
Thats a myth lmao
Eurocyon
"In Scandinavia, the Norse celebrated Yule from December 21, the winter solstice, through January. In recognition of the return of the sun, fathers and sons would bring home large logs, which they would set on fire. The people would feast until the log burned out, which could take as many as 12 days. The Norse believed that each spark from the fire represented a new pig or calf that would be born during the coming year. The end of December was a perfect time for celebration in most areas of Europe. At that time of year, most cattle were slaughtered so they would not have to be fed during the winter. For many, it was the only time of year when they had a supply of fresh meat. In addition, most wine and beer made during the year was finally fermented and ready for drinking. In Germany, people honored the pagan god Oden during the mid-winter holiday. Germans were terrified of Oden, as they believed he made nocturnal flights through the sky to observe his people, and then decide who would prosper or perish. Because of his presence, many people chose to stay inside."
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/25/2024 14:52
I really hate to ask this, but what's your source?
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:52
https://www.history.com/topics/christmas/history-of-christmas
History of Christmas ‑ Origins, Traditions & Facts | HISTORY
Christmas is celebrated on December 25 and is both a sacred religious holiday and a worldwide cultural and commercial phenomenon. For two millennia, people around the world have been observing it with traditions and practices that are both religious and secular in nature.
Extra-sensory PURRception
I really hate to ask this, but what's your source?
serpente482 11/25/2024 14:52
Surely we wont find anything at all at the early life section
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:52
here is a source
Eurocyon
here is a source
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/25/2024 14:52
but a bad one
14:52
Very bad
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
but a bad one
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:52
Not ture
Eurocyon
Not ture
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/25/2024 14:53
not true* (edited)
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:53
This source also highlights the christian influences of modern christmas
Eurocyon
The whole idea of christmas tree came from the germanics, last time i check spruce trees did not exist in greece
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 14:53
thats just Western tradition influencing the East
Eurocyon
https://www.history.com/topics/christmas/history-of-christmas
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 14:53
>History.com
serpente482 11/25/2024 14:53
Werent christmas trees started to be using popularly in like the 17th century
Eurocyon
https://www.history.com/topics/christmas/history-of-christmas
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/25/2024 14:54
>Article doesn't even cite any sources Maybe it's hidden somewhere
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Extra-sensory PURRception
>Article doesn't even cite any sources Maybe it's hidden somewhere
serpente482 11/25/2024 14:55
Article said what euro is saying
14:55
Using "IT IS COMMONLY BELIEVED"
Extra-sensory PURRception
>Article doesn't even cite any sources Maybe it's hidden somewhere
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:56
Orchard, Andy (1997). Dictionary of Norse Mythology and Legend, page 187. Cassell.
serpente482 11/25/2024 14:56
Ohiocyon shows lack of reading capabilities once again
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Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:56
Baker, Margaret (2007 1962). Discovering Christmas Customs and Folklore: A Guide to Seasonal Rites Throughout the World, page 62. Osprey Publishing.
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 14:56
No explanation as to why Christians designated Dec 25th to be Christ's birthday either
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 14:56
Go buy these books
14:56
and read or stfu
serpente482 11/25/2024 14:56
Does this count as a strike
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 14:56
As I already pointed out, bishops in Antioch and Alexandria did not have exposure to Germanic Paganism Neither did Jeremiah (edited)
Eurocyon
and read or stfu
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/25/2024 14:57
Have you read them?
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Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 14:57
whether pagan practices were christianized and introduced into the celebrations and festivities in the Christian West
14:57
it doesnt matter
Extra-sensory PURRception
Have you read them?
serpente482 11/25/2024 14:57
He doesnt need to because he already knows everything
14:57
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/25/2024 14:58
Would be really disappointing if you say "and read or stfu" if you haven't read them yourself
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serpente482
Thats a myth lmao
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 14:59
Its origins are in Paganism, but not Germanic paganism
14:59
As i pointed out, Prophet Jeremiah talks about trees being decorated in his book. And he was an Ancient Israeli talking about the practices of his pagan contemporaries (edited)
serpente482 11/25/2024 14:59
There are various versions
15:00
I heard it symbolized the Paradise of Adam and Eve
15:00
Historians cant really know and everyone will tell you their version
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/25/2024 15:00
Even if some parts of the celebration of Christmas were inherited from pagan traditions, that doesn't make Christmas pagan since you're celebrating Christ's birth. (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception
Even if some parts of the celebration of Christmas were inherited from pagan traditions, that doesn't make Christmas pagan since you're celebrating Christ's birth. (edited)
serpente482 11/25/2024 15:01
Ohiocyon says otherwise, he is an historian btw, he says its pagan and cites Big Bang Theory as his main source
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Extra-sensory PURRception
I'm still waiting for the three other books that I ordered though (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/25/2024 15:05
I pre-ordered one which went through a lot of delays due to complications during print, I finally got an update saying that the books will finally be shipped out on the 4th of December.
Extra-sensory PURRception
Even if some parts of the celebration of Christmas were inherited from pagan traditions, that doesn't make Christmas pagan since you're celebrating Christ's birth. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 15:05
the main point here is that there was no Pagan influence on Constantines choice of date
15:06
He was influenced by the bishops opinion of the time
Мико⚜🐾
The day we dedicate to Christ's birthday was based on the early 'theologoumenon', or theological opinion, that Christ was conceived and died on the day of the Spring Equinox (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 15:06
Мико⚜🐾
the main point here is that there was no Pagan influence on Constantines choice of date
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/25/2024 15:06
Yeah, I have no idea where the claim about the choice of date comes from
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 15:07
We dont actually know the dates for these things verbatim. If we did there would be a set good friday and easter date
15:07
these are days dedicated to the events
15:10
That article is just a strawman ultimately
Extra-sensory PURRception
Even if some parts of the celebration of Christmas were inherited from pagan traditions, that doesn't make Christmas pagan since you're celebrating Christ's birth. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 15:14
He too should affirm the redemption of Pagan concepts as a Muslim (edited)
15:15
the crescent moon and star was Pagan and the site of the Kaaba prior to the Muslim takeover of it was a place of syncretic pagan worship
Мико⚜🐾
the crescent moon and star was Pagan and the site of the Kaaba prior to the Muslim takeover of it was a place of syncretic pagan worship
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/25/2024 15:15
I know
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/25/2024 15:15
Meanings for things can change over time.
15:16
I mean we're already seeing that with Christmas with (((them))) trying to remove Christ from it.
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Мико⚜🐾
Its origins are in Paganism, but not Germanic paganism
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:16
It's germanic
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 15:16
you can't read, can you?
Мико⚜🐾
As i pointed out, Prophet Jeremiah talks about trees being decorated in his book. And he was an Ancient Israeli talking about the practices of his pagan contemporaries (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 15:17
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:17
I can too read, you insult me so.
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 15:17
So can you respond to me instead of just re-asserting your view
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:21
As I detailed the Yule was the origins of Christmas, and this predates Prophet Jeremiah. As said before, it originates from the germanic, when they held Yule the would gift each other things and host a grand feast, there was a figure who wore a great grey beard and wore a gown similar to that of what one would think when they hear Santa who would be a gifter at this event. To say it's origins are post christian is a bit of a stretch. It originates from germany, however the modern state of Christmas has christian influence.
Eurocyon
As I detailed the Yule was the origins of Christmas, and this predates Prophet Jeremiah. As said before, it originates from the germanic, when they held Yule the would gift each other things and host a grand feast, there was a figure who wore a great grey beard and wore a gown similar to that of what one would think when they hear Santa who would be a gifter at this event. To say it's origins are post christian is a bit of a stretch. It originates from germany, however the modern state of Christmas has christian influence.
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/25/2024 15:22
https://discord.com/channels/1213500751045857312/1268558653024243724/1310621242897731615
Extra-sensory PURRception
https://discord.com/channels/1213500751045857312/1268558653024243724/1310621242897731615
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:23
I do not celebrate christ's birth, nor did the predacessor who practiced this ancient practice.
Eurocyon
I do not celebrate christ's birth, nor did the predacessor who practiced this ancient practice.
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/25/2024 15:25
Sciencemas, when Darwin Claus evolves down the chimney
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Extra-sensory PURRception
Sciencemas, when Darwin Claus evolves down the chimney
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:26
Cultre and rleigion are seperate we have cultural holidays
Eurocyon
Cultre and rleigion are seperate we have cultural holidays
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/25/2024 15:27
My previous message was a joke, if that wasn't obvious already
Eurocyon
As I detailed the Yule was the origins of Christmas, and this predates Prophet Jeremiah. As said before, it originates from the germanic, when they held Yule the would gift each other things and host a grand feast, there was a figure who wore a great grey beard and wore a gown similar to that of what one would think when they hear Santa who would be a gifter at this event. To say it's origins are post christian is a bit of a stretch. It originates from germany, however the modern state of Christmas has christian influence.
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 15:29
Can you prove that it predates Prophet Jeremias? The earliest records of Yuletide practices date to the 5th and 6th century AD, while Jeremiah in Jeremiah 10:1-5 criticses the pagan tradition of worshipping trees adorned with jewels, along with using the wood to make idols, during his Babylonian exile (late mid 6th century BC) There is a thousand year gap, and more proof from this alone that the practice wasnt necessarily exclusively from Germanic tradition (edited)
BibleBot BOT 11/25/2024 15:29
Jeremiah 10:1-5 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<1> Hear ye the word of the Lord, which he has spoken to you, O house of Israel. <2> Thus saith the Lord, Learn ye not the ways of the heathen, and be not alarmed at the signs of the sky; for they are alarmed at them, falling on their faces. <3> For the customs of the nations are vain; it is a tree cut out of the forest, the work of the carpenter, or a molten image. <4> They are beautified with silver and gold, they fix them with hammers and nails; <5> they will set them up that they may not move; it is wrought silver, they will not walk, it is forged silver
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:31
probably after 650 bce
15:31
this is jerimiah
15:32
norse paganism was like 700bce
15:32
and remember this
15:32
lets say they were after
15:32
they were too isloated to actually be influenced by this
Eurocyon
As I detailed the Yule was the origins of Christmas, and this predates Prophet Jeremiah. As said before, it originates from the germanic, when they held Yule the would gift each other things and host a grand feast, there was a figure who wore a great grey beard and wore a gown similar to that of what one would think when they hear Santa who would be a gifter at this event. To say it's origins are post christian is a bit of a stretch. It originates from germany, however the modern state of Christmas has christian influence.
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 15:33
You can say this to others, but you cant really say this to me as an Orthodox Christian because we never started depiciting St. Nicholas as the modern day "Santa Claus", a Western secularized flanderization of him
15:33
There is no "Santa Claus" in Eastern Christianity, we have Christ and that's it (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
You can say this to others, but you cant really say this to me as an Orthodox Christian because we never started depiciting St. Nicholas as the modern day "Santa Claus", a Western secularized flanderization of him
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:33
St. Nicholas came after
15:33
I told you this
15:33
I might've accidently called him St. Peter
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 15:34
Yes, St. Nicholas' connection to Christmas is a Western innovation, and his flanderization was not done by Christians, it was done by Jews (edited)
15:34
I'm Russian Orthodox
Eurocyon
norse paganism was like 700bce
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 15:35
you dont have any proof the practice of adorning trees originated or started among the German pagans tho (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
you dont have any proof the practice of adorning trees originated or started among the German pagans tho (edited)
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:35
I am not an archeologist, I just am regurgutating what I have read (edited)
Eurocyon
As I detailed the Yule was the origins of Christmas, and this predates Prophet Jeremiah. As said before, it originates from the germanic, when they held Yule the would gift each other things and host a grand feast, there was a figure who wore a great grey beard and wore a gown similar to that of what one would think when they hear Santa who would be a gifter at this event. To say it's origins are post christian is a bit of a stretch. It originates from germany, however the modern state of Christmas has christian influence.
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 15:37
Whether they are or not, this argument has no weight against Eastern Christianity
15:38
once again, the main point here was to say that Constantine's choice of the date was not because he was influenced by paganism, much less Germanic paganism, but because he was convinced of the opinion that Christ was born exactly 9 months after the spring Equinox (edited)
15:41
correlation-causation fallacy
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:43
not the case
15:43
sorry mikko I've won
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 15:44
It is, your whole argument is that Christmas is caused by Paganism, not influenced. The latter would be true, the former just isnt (edited)
15:44
the date wasnt chosen because of Germanic influence on Church authority
15:45
therefore Christmas, at least my Christmas, isnt Pagan
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/25/2024 15:46
Mikko
15:46
Remember what I was telling you about how even if you tell someone that 2+2=4 and you show them in great detail that this is true, they will still be convinced it equals 5 and that you're lying?
15:47
Once I realise truth ain't getting to someone I give up the fight. That's just too much energy to waste.
15:48
This is why I don't bother debating with my colleague anymore even though he still tries to initiate a theological debate. Because he refuses to listen to my logic and chalks it up to fairy tales or "opinions". (edited)
ungen 11/25/2024 15:48
I can guarantee you that if someone tells you "happy holidays" you should bring immediate and unimaginable suffering upon them. Those are my two cents.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/25/2024 15:48
Strange how that same colleague has told me before that I'm a "really intelligent person" but when it comes to religion I'm suddenly stupid.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
This is why I don't bother debating with my colleague anymore even though he still tries to initiate a theological debate. Because he refuses to listen to my logic and chalks it up to fairy tales or "opinions". (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 15:49
just fold him with de ente et essentia
15:49
(kidding)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/25/2024 15:49
I've told him my findings on the stock market, how to properly navigate college without going bankrupt, how currencies work, investing in gold etc and he's like "dude how are you so smart." But the second I argue the truth of Christ I am stupid.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I've told him my findings on the stock market, how to properly navigate college without going bankrupt, how currencies work, investing in gold etc and he's like "dude how are you so smart." But the second I argue the truth of Christ I am stupid.
ungen 11/25/2024 15:50
He is clearly under a worship of materialism.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/25/2024 15:50
I never considered that.
15:50
He doesn't exactly strike me as a materialist.
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:51
modern christmas was hijaked by big companies to sell you shit
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Eurocyon
modern christmas was hijaked by big companies to sell you shit
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/25/2024 15:51
And water is wet.
Eurocyon
modern christmas was hijaked by big companies to sell you shit
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 15:51
common sense award️
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
And water is wet.
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:51
Now this is a debate of all time
15:51
is water actually wet?
Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 15:51
they tried to hijack eid too here in London lol
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:51
Hi Vi sauce, Micheal here.
Eurocyon
is water actually wet?
ungen 11/25/2024 15:53
Is the ocean a soup?
ungen
Is the ocean a soup?
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:54
is it boiling?
Eurocyon
is it boiling?
ungen 11/25/2024 15:54
The sun causes evaporation and condensation
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:54
is it boiling
ungen 11/25/2024 15:54
To evaporate it must boil
15:54
And clouds are forming
Eurocyon
is it boiling
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/25/2024 15:55
Probably in some places
ungen 11/25/2024 15:55
Therefore it's certainly being cooked
ungen
To evaporate it must boil
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:55
the ocean is too cold to be boiling
15:55
because ungen
15:55
if I were to take a fish out of the water and eat it raw
ungen 11/25/2024 15:55
Furthermore, does a soup even have to boil?
15:55
What if the soup is currently raw
ungen
Furthermore, does a soup even have to boil?
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:55
yes
ungen 11/25/2024 15:55
What if it's disgusting cold soup
Eurocyon
if I were to take a fish out of the water and eat it raw
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:56
I would get poisoned because it is raw
15:56
thus the ocean is not a soup
Eurocyon
the ocean is too cold to be boiling
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/25/2024 15:56
Well, it doesn't have to be boiling, it's enough if it has boiled in the past
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:56
maybe it can be one
ungen
Is the ocean a soup?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/25/2024 15:56
Yes because a soup is the combination of water and other things mixed in with it. The ocean has more than just salt mixed into it. Small bacteria, particles, plastics and all sorts exist in the ocean so it is by definition a soup.
Eurocyon
I would get poisoned because it is raw
ungen 11/25/2024 15:56
No, you would be based for eating raw flesh
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Yes because a soup is the combination of water and other things mixed in with it. The ocean has more than just salt mixed into it. Small bacteria, particles, plastics and all sorts exist in the ocean so it is by definition a soup.
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:56
only issue with this is by defintion a soup must be boiled
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Yes because a soup is the combination of water and other things mixed in with it. The ocean has more than just salt mixed into it. Small bacteria, particles, plastics and all sorts exist in the ocean so it is by definition a soup.
ungen 11/25/2024 15:56
Furthermore, the fish are meat, and there are vegetables such as algae, which are soup in asia
Eurocyon 11/25/2024 15:56
cereal can be a soup if you boil it
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Yes because a soup is the combination of water and other things mixed in with it. The ocean has more than just salt mixed into it. Small bacteria, particles, plastics and all sorts exist in the ocean so it is by definition a soup.
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/25/2024 15:57
>Has chemicals >Has plastic >Parts of it boiled >Has "meat" >Has vegetables The ocean is as much of a soup as instant noodles
Eurocyon
only issue with this is by defintion a soup must be boiled
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/25/2024 15:57
A soup can also be simmered, it doesn't need to be boiled and areas on the equator make the ocean quite hot, so it could pass the test.
dday 11/25/2024 22:13
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Мико⚜🐾 11/25/2024 22:22
Aquinas' "de ente et essentia" argument for God convinced some of my smartest friends God exists
22:23
and yes, if not for Western and Eastern Christianity, Ancient Greek and Roman classical works, along with Pagan tradition and mythology, would be lost to time (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/26/2024 07:57
https://youtube.com/shorts/KZ9_IN_I-io
telosbound
Original Sin: Orthodox Christianity vs Roman Catholicism
Мико⚜🐾 11/27/2024 16:25
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VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:02
01:04
i like how muhammad cant even get shit right when hes referencing the bible, for example when he mentions the story of king davids repentance he writes out the prophet nathan because in the story of davids repentance somone questions davids authority and having a story about somone questioning authority would make muhammad look bad
VikingTiger6
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:08
Ad hom and misinformation where do I begin
01:09
Also @Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian can we ban depictions of Muhammad pls
01:09
:3 (edited)
01:10
Surah 5:47 goes along with other surahs I will post rq
01:11
01:11
Surah 3:3 and 3:4 is the one we will focus one (edited)
Eurocyon
Click to see attachment 🖼️
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:12
youre telling me he revealed the quran and the gospel?
VikingTiger6
youre telling me he revealed the quran and the gospel?
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:13
See the Quran doesn't just adress muslims, it also adresses Christians and jews, Surah 5:47 is adressing "those who believed". As in the christians who came befor Muhammad.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:13
if the bible is false islam is false but if the bible is true islam is false
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:13
The surahs I have posted affirm this.
vanilla✟
if the bible is false islam is false but if the bible is true islam is false
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:13
Here is the funny thing
Eurocyon
See the Quran doesn't just adress muslims, it also adresses Christians and jews, Surah 5:47 is adressing "those who believed". As in the christians who came befor Muhammad.
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:13
well the bible says muhammad is occursed
01:13
and the quran says i should judge by the bible
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:13
We believe the OG bible is lost, and the current one is edited.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:14
we have the greek manuscripts try again
Eurocyon
We believe the OG bible is lost, and the current one is edited.
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:14
thats kinda like how joseph smith said that parts purtaining to him were lost
VikingTiger6
and the quran says i should judge by the bible
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:14
No it says "those who believed" as in the christians who never heard Muhammads words.
vanilla✟
we have the greek manuscripts try again
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:14
See these scripts are wrote 70 years after jesus's death. They can be edites amd revises, remember they took books out of the bible.
Eurocyon
See these scripts are wrote 70 years after jesus's death. They can be edites amd revises, remember they took books out of the bible.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:15
the protestants took them out which is why they are heretics
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:15
The earliest Quran, though in peices dates to Muhammad's life.
Eurocyon
The earliest Quran, though in peices dates to Muhammad's life.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:15
wasnt there like 7 versions and 6 were burned or something
vanilla✟
the protestants took them out which is why they are heretics
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:15
The book of Enoch, for example, is a book not in the main canon unless you are an orthodox. So no thats not even the case.
01:16
Several books were removed from the bible.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:16
ethiopian orthodox* dont mention an obscure heretical denomination for your message
01:16
they are heretics even to the orthodox church
Eurocyon
The book of Enoch, for example, is a book not in the main canon unless you are an orthodox. So no thats not even the case.
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:16
ive read Enoch, i believe many of the events to be true, Jesus even references them, but the book of Enoch tries to say Enoch is Jesus
vanilla✟
ethiopian orthodox* dont mention an obscure heretical denomination for your message
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:16
Still a removed book.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:17
never was a part of the bible
01:17
enoch didnt write it
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:17
It is, it's just not apart of the main canon.
01:17
Wait rq
01:17
I mosy mention
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:17
it implies that enoch is the messiah which is another reason its not included
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:17
"Canon" means "collection" in this context.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:17
yes
01:18
im well read on christian church history
vanilla✟
yes
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:18
I have to mention this because I will say the word "noncanon" a few times and some dipshit will go "thats not a real book, its says that its noncanon"
01:18
Vikingtiger would be said dipshit
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:19
you muslims claim our bible is innacurate yet you have no "accurate" bible to compare and no "accurate" bible has been found
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:19
noncanon means its proven to not be divinely inspired
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:19
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/R_uz1i7oNDs
Run To Jesus
This writing is almost 2,000 Years old!
VikingTiger6
you muslims claim our bible is innacurate yet you have no "accurate" bible to compare and no "accurate" bible has been found
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:19
Because it is lost, I have been through this.
vanilla✟
noncanon means its proven to not be divinely inspired
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:19
like the book of enoch which was written long after enoch
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:19
Earliest recorded texts are aftee jesus's death.
Eurocyon
Because it is lost, I have been through this.
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:20
we have books of the bible written mere decades after Jesus, yet youre telling me to trust a book written 600 years after Jesus?
Eurocyon
Earliest recorded texts are aftee jesus's death.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:20
they were scribes they were writing as Jesus taught them
vanilla✟
like the book of enoch which was written long after enoch
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:20
Yes this happens, all of what we know about Alexander for example, came 500 years after his death.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:20
they also wrote about their lives afterwards
vanilla✟
they were scribes they were writing as Jesus taught them
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:20
No kept record as they are all lost as stated.
VikingTiger6
we have books of the bible written mere decades after Jesus, yet youre telling me to trust a book written 600 years after Jesus?
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:20
Mere decades meaning 7
Eurocyon
Yes this happens, all of what we know about Alexander for example, came 500 years after his death.
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:21
with alexander we had multiple accounts of his life that varied considerably, with Jesus we have 4 accounts that tell the same story from different perspectives
Eurocyon
No kept record as they are all lost as stated.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:21
we had an ecumenical council with the apostles
Eurocyon
Mere decades meaning 7
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:21
We have texts dating to our prophets life. Its why Islam has some creditbility, our old manisprpts though in peices were salvaged.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:21
Council of Jerusalem
Eurocyon
Mere decades meaning 7
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:22
Galatians was written around 48 AD, 15 years after Jesus died
vanilla✟
we had an ecumenical council with the apostles
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:22
"See a bunch of people not connected to god said these bookes are bad, and we can be trusted 100% kosher"
Eurocyon
We have texts dating to our prophets life. Its why Islam has some creditbility, our old manisprpts though in peices were salvaged.
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:22
you always claim they arent accurate when i bring up what they have to say about your prophet
VikingTiger6
Galatians was written around 48 AD, 15 years after Jesus died
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:22
same year the council i just mentioned happened
Eurocyon
"See a bunch of people not connected to god said these bookes are bad, and we can be trusted 100% kosher"
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:23
the people who knew Jesus personally
01:23
including the head of the church st peter
VikingTiger6
you always claim they arent accurate when i bring up what they have to say about your prophet
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:23
The way you present your i formation amd how you would like to convey it is always incorrect and in a negatuce light. Because you are a demogouge. I proved you whole sperg wrong in 2 messages.
vanilla✟
the people who knew Jesus personally
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:23
What I said stands
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:24
the holy spirit speaks directly through the head of the church
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:24
I do not trust these people to make choices on what books are holy or not, that is only for God.
Eurocyon
The way you present your i formation amd how you would like to convey it is always incorrect and in a negatuce light. Because you are a demogouge. I proved you whole sperg wrong in 2 messages.
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:24
hadiths claim muhammad married a 6 year old "those hadiths arent accurate"
Arcane BOT 11/28/2024 01:24
@VikingTiger6 has reached level 5. GG!
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:24
i trust st peter to make that descision
VikingTiger6
hadiths claim muhammad married a 6 year old "those hadiths arent accurate"
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:24
This happened, unless you subscribe to the idea she was 16.
01:25
Doesn't matter to me either way
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:25
muhammed was illiterate maybe he meant 6 months
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:25
bible says even satan masquerades as an angel of light and the bible warns against conviening with spirits in caves, what do you think muhammad was doing when he was "meditating" in the cave, keep in mind the pagans of mecca had been "meditating" in caves for quite a while (edited)
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vanilla✟
muhammed was illiterate maybe he meant 6 months
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:25
Don't scold my prophet lime that
VikingTiger6
bible says even satan masquerades as an angel of light and the bible warns against conviening with spirits in caves, what do you think muhammad was doing when he was "meditating" in the cave, keep in mind the pagans of mecca had been "meditating" in caves for quite a while (edited)
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:26
You book is edited this statement means nothing to me, if true.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:26
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:27
Even then the trinity makes no logical sense, though you like to use the cop out excuse that "oh its beyond our mortal comprehension". (edited)
Eurocyon
Even then the trinity makes no logical sense, though you like to use the cop out excuse that "oh its beyond our mortal comprehension". (edited)
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:27
1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1
01:27
done
vanilla✟
1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:27
Ok but what if I remove one peice is god still here?
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:27
yes
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:27
Polythiesm
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:28
allah has 2 right hands i take away one of them
01:28
there is still allah
01:28
polytheism
01:29
(im not joking about the 2 right hand, islamic scholars say so)
Eurocyon
You book is edited this statement means nothing to me, if true.
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:29
you have no evidence to suggest it was edited, the Quran howver has an early scribe who apostated due to realizing the Quran was bunk because he witnessed Muhammad plagarize something he said https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd_Allah_ibn_Sa%27d#:~:text=Abd%20Allah%20ibn%20Sa'd%20ibn%20Abi%20al%2DSarh%20(,governor%20of%20Upper%20Egypt%20for
Abd Allah ibn Sa'd
Abd Allah ibn Sa'd ibn Abi al-Sarh (Arabic: عبد الله ابن سعد ابن أبي السرح, romanized: ʿAbd Allāh ibn Saʿd ibn Abī al-Sarḥ) was an Arab administrator, scribe, and military commander, who was an early convert to, then later apostate from Islam He was a scriber of the Quran (كاتب الوحي) and governor of Upper Egypt for the Muslim caliphate during t...
vanilla✟
allah has 2 right hands i take away one of them
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:29
If I remove the son, who btw is 100% God, and he is one person, and God is still here, he is 3 indpendent beings not one
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:29
parts
vanilla✟
parts
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:29
One person
Eurocyon
Even then the trinity makes no logical sense, though you like to use the cop out excuse that "oh its beyond our mortal comprehension". (edited)
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:29
lemme clean my drink with the fly o algo
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:29
one person 3 parts
VikingTiger6
lemme clean my drink with the fly o algo
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:30
Bad faith
vanilla✟
one person 3 parts
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:30
One person 3 parts who are one person, but those 3 parts are independent.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:30
here is another example orthodoxy catholicism and protestantism all are christian but not eachother
01:30
christianity is still one religion
vanilla✟
here is another example orthodoxy catholicism and protestantism all are christian but not eachother
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:30
Thats not the same, because prots are not christian (edited)
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:31
christian means faith in christ we just call them heretics
vanilla✟
christian means faith in christ we just call them heretics
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:31
Then they aren't christian, just like how Shias aren't muslim.
Eurocyon
Thats not the same, because prots are not christian (edited)
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:31
my church is founded apon the bible which is the teachings of Jesus
VikingTiger6
my church is founded apon the bible which is the teachings of Jesus
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:31
Prots are heretics
01:31
And should be burned (edited)
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:32
my church is founded upon the bible and st peter, the teachings and the successor of Jesus
Eurocyon
Prots are heretics
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:32
youre a muslim heretic because you dont believe the authentic hadiths
1
VikingTiger6
youre a muslim heretic because you dont believe the authentic hadiths
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:32
I am not a heretic
01:32
I am a Maliki
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:32
i bet there is other muslims that say "malikis aren't muslim"
vanilla✟
i bet there is other muslims that say "malikis aren't muslim"
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:33
There probably are, but you know what people are allowed to be wrong.
01:33
And that's ok sometimes.
Eurocyon
I am a Maliki
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:33
you still dont believe hadiths that are canon in sunni islam
1
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:33
eh whatever denying your brothers only creates internal conflict and weakens the religion
VikingTiger6
you still dont believe hadiths that are canon in sunni islam
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:33
I don't believen your fake made up bullshit that you use to push a message.
vanilla✟
eh whatever denying your brothers only creates internal conflict and weakens the religion
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:34
This is a description of christianity (edited)
Eurocyon
I don't believen your fake made up bullshit that you use to push a message.
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:34
you told me the buhkari wasnt reliable, sunni islam considers it to be reliable
VikingTiger6
you told me the buhkari wasnt reliable, sunni islam considers it to be reliable
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:34
Didn't say that (edited)
Eurocyon
This is a description of christianity (edited)
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:34
prots are christians
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:34
Reread what I said carefully
vanilla✟
prots are christians
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:34
Not true
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:34
quit larping and submit to rome
1
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:35
i might disagree with other chrisitians, but we are christians because we follow Christ, so they are my brothers regardless of whether we agree on everything or not (edited)
2
vanilla✟
quit larping and submit to rome
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:35
Rome fell, the person who killed it were the Ottobros. The Ottomans were the last succesors to Rome.
Eurocyon
Rome fell, the person who killed it were the Ottobros. The Ottomans were the last succesors to Rome.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:36
byzantine*
vanilla✟
byzantine*
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:36
Who as you might know were the continuation of Rome.
01:36
Rome fell in 1453
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:36
eh
Eurocyon
Who as you might know were the continuation of Rome.
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:37
youre not the continuation of rome because you raped a buncha people in anatolia
1
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:37
rome needs rome to be rome
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:37
romes just another babylon
VikingTiger6
youre not the continuation of rome because you raped a buncha people in anatolia
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:37
We conquered and adoptes Roman customs from the greeks, we ruled like Romans, we took over former Roman lands, our administration was Roman.
01:38
The Ottomans were their succesors
01:38
Also I hate people who Idealise Rome.
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:39
rome mentioned right here
VikingTiger6
rome mentioned right here
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:39
Rome is mentioned in the Quran.
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:39
just another babylon
01:39
rome aint special, there were many romes and there will be many more
Eurocyon
Rome is mentioned in the Quran.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:39
wow an already existing country mentioed
01:39
that must mean its true
1
vanilla✟
wow an already existing country mentioed
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:40
Not only that, what Viking said was true. There will be another Rome, like there was before and after.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:41
america
01:41
which is gonna fall soon most likely
vanilla✟
america
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 01:41
I hope this mf falls rn
01:41
Free Canada from the USA
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:52
lets just kiss the fox and drop the topic
ungen 11/28/2024 01:53
fop
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 01:54
i want her
vanilla✟
lets just kiss the fox and drop the topic
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 01:55
gladly
vanilla✟
lets just kiss the fox and drop the topic
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 02:00
Thats my wife
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 02:00
she doesnt wanna wear a burqa
02:01
also she is my wife
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 02:01
You know how lonely people cling onto objects to feel comfort, that's averi for me.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 02:01
real
02:01
but averi isnt an object she is the best
ungen 11/28/2024 02:01
Averi is the one of the few foxes I tolerate
vanilla✟
she doesnt wanna wear a burqa
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 02:01
Canonically there are several averi's, one can be a muslim.
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 02:01
tolerate.... you should love her
ungen 11/28/2024 02:01
I am the #1 foxsona hater
02:02
99% of them are generic and faggy Only Averi gets it right
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 02:02
i want this one
ungen
99% of them are generic and faggy Only Averi gets it right
succui 11/28/2024 02:02
why are you in my server then
succui
why are you in my server then
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 02:03
Yours is unique then (edited)
02:03
Like mine
ungen 11/28/2024 02:03
Is Banki a fox?
02:03
I thought Banki was a Banki.
succui 11/28/2024 02:03
Yeah, she is
02:03
Fennec fox
02:03
(euro didn’t actually get permission to invite anyone there)
02:04
She’s as red as she is because of what she’s based on
ungen 11/28/2024 02:04
Gotta rep the banki red.
succui 11/28/2024 02:05
I mean it’s obvious that she is haha https://fxtwitter.com/sekibank/status/1861512090533368066?s=46&t=vWF_V4XDRT_08JpxMHVkpg
❤️ 5 👁️ 23
banki (@sekibank)
DAY 17 bnanki
3
succui
(euro didn’t actually get permission to invite anyone there)
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 02:06
I had perms, so I thought I was permitted, forgive my presumptions friend.
succui 11/28/2024 02:06
It’s fine lol, if I had a real problem with it I would’ve booted him
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 02:06
Thank you, you are a kind soul.
ungen 11/28/2024 02:08
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 02:08
Averis my wife, yall are wrong
VikingTiger6
Averis my wife, yall are wrong
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 02:08
false she is mine
Arcane BOT 11/28/2024 02:08
@vanilla✟ has reached level 10. GG!
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 02:09
02:09
see shes my wife
vanilla✟ 11/28/2024 02:09
nope my wife
VikingTiger6
Averis my wife, yall are wrong
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 02:28
There's canonically several averis
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 02:35
nuh uh, theres one averi and shes my wife
VikingTiger6
nuh uh, theres one averi and shes my wife
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 02:38
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1268558653024243724/1311512349839982662/vfrbgrtbhgyt.png?ex=6749208e&is=6747cf0e&hm=af7c76707863b43c216a8fcb0c6a3329355d6afba862b7f4c8b34fb6219e59bc& consult the canon
Eurocyon
And should be burned (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 02:52
the pot is calling the kettle black
02:53
at least theyre trinitarian
Мико⚜🐾
the pot is calling the kettle black
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 02:55
No
02:55
I am not a christian or a heretuc
02:55
I am me
Eurocyon
Also @Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian can we ban depictions of Muhammad pls
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 02:56
non-Shias and non-deviants depicted Muhammad for centuries (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
non-Shias and non-deviants depicted Muhammad for centuries (edited)
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 02:56
YOU HEARD ME
02:56
Its haram and disrespectful
Мико⚜🐾
at least theyre trinitarian
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 02:58
also as well, ive been researching reformed theology and the Orthodox response to it (the Reformers) with my friend Ananda for the past 2 weeks or so (edited)
03:00
reading Patriarch Jeremias' response to the Lutherans, Blessed Dositheus' letter on predestination and original sin, St. Peter Moghila's catechism too
03:00
theyre far less wrong than what I had imagined beforehand, theres a lot less we actually disagree on (edited)
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 03:07
thats because we all follow the bible
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 03:07
"Follow"
Eurocyon
I am not a christian or a heretuc
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 03:07
im making a joke that based on the sources available before the edited Ibn Ishaq by Ibn Hisham, it would seem that Islam was a Christian heresy
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 03:07
an early church father called it the "heresy of the ishmaelites"
VikingTiger6
an early church father called it the "heresy of the ishmaelites"
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 03:08
St. John of Damascus is the main one who does that, but multiple do it (edited)
03:08
A lot of them just call those brehs Arians as well (edited)
03:11
There are icons and crosses on Mu'awiya I's coins and on his inscriptions furthermore
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 03:48
'The number of verses that are considered to have been abrogated increased dramatically between the eighth and eleventh centuries (al-Zuhri mentions 42 abrogated verses, al-Nahhas 138, and Ibn Salama, 238), at which point an upper limit seems to have been reached (Ibn ‘Ata’iqi identifies 231 abrogated verses, and al-Farsi, 248). ...Al-Suyuti (d. 1505) recognised only twenty instances of true abrogation and Shah Wali Allah (d 1762) reduced that number to five. Ibn al-’Ata’iqi, on the other hand, while citing 231 instances of abrogation, appendixes the phrase wa fihi nazar, indicating doubt or uncertainty to his discussion of twenty-six verses." ...There was considerable disagreement over the scope and parameters of abrogation, especially with regard to: a) the relationship between Qur'an and Sunnah and b) which verses of the Qur'an, if any, are susceptible to abrogation. ...There is also considerable disagreement over the scope of abrogation within the Qur’an itself. At one extreme, there were apparently a few people who argued that ‘the Qur’an does not contain either an abrogated or an abrogating verse’; these people, according to Ibn Salama, ‘have deviated from the truth and by virtue of their lying, have turned away from God’*. At the other extreme were those scholars who maintained that any narrative, positive command, or prohibition in the Qur’an may be abrogated.'
`Dr David Powers, The Exergetical Genre nasikh al-Qur'an` (edited)
03:50
https://cornell.academia.edu/DavidPowers
David Powers | Cornell University - Academia.edu
David Powers, Cornell University: 883 Followers, 148 Following, 41 Research papers. Research interests: Near Eastern Studies, Theology, and Islamic Studies.
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 05:11
well when you pick and chose whats real you know youre worshipping a man made invention
1
Eurocyon
Its haram and disrespectful
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 05:16
its not even Muhammad, its a Shia icon of Ali
VikingTiger6
well when you pick and chose whats real you know youre worshipping a man made invention
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 05:19
indeed. virtually every reputable Muslim figure, across the fiqhs and aqeedahs, historically believed in abrogation of the Qur'an at least by itself. and affirming the concept of abrogation is far less damning to the Islamic position than to shoot your foot and say there is no abrogation by the way (edited)
05:23
because not only are you no longer in continuity with the early Muslim understanding and are deviating, you also leave yourself unable to explain why ayat revealed later regards say, relations with non-Muslims, in a different way than before. It also means you have to deny Sahih hadiths regarding the breastfeeding ayat that were abrogated by Allah posthumously (according to Aisha herself) Islamic tradition (edited)
Gurt 11/28/2024 07:23
1
Eurocyon
Rome fell, the person who killed it were the Ottobros. The Ottomans were the last succesors to Rome.
serpente482 11/28/2024 07:27
Brown fingers wrote this
07:28
An enemy of Rome cant be Rome desertroach
1
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 07:38
i curse the Ottoman sultan dogs who persecuted the Church and her people. they are no successor to Rome (edited)
serpente482 11/28/2024 07:47
How retarded you have to be to say that the successor of someone is the last person to defeat them
07:47
Thats like saying the allies are the successors of nazi germany
serpente482
Thats like saying the allies are the successors of nazi germany
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 07:57
yup just because you say youre the successor of the Romans, it doesnt mean you are in reality (edited)
07:57
lol
08:00
the Russians, the Franks (multiple times), the Germans (multiple times), split off states from the Eastern Roman Empire, Americans (some of the American founding fathers), they've all claimed to be successors or a succesion of/to the Roman empire (edited)
08:02
i dont buy into the "Moscow is the 3rd Rome" stuff and im literally Russian Orthodox. none of the above are a continuation of what used to be there
Мико⚜🐾
the Russians, the Franks (multiple times), the Germans (multiple times), split off states from the Eastern Roman Empire, Americans (some of the American founding fathers), they've all claimed to be successors or a succesion of/to the Roman empire (edited)
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/28/2024 08:29
Greeks have some legitimacy for the claim
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
Greeks have some legitimacy for the claim
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 08:33
they abolished their monarchy ‍♂️
08:33
if they brought it back though..
Мико⚜🐾
they abolished their monarchy ‍♂️
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/28/2024 08:40
yeah
08:40
this is why I said some
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
Greeks have some legitimacy for the claim
serpente482 11/28/2024 09:10
Felipe VI is the closest to get the roman emperor title
09:11
Spanish and greek royalty
VikingTiger6
well when you pick and chose whats real you know youre worshipping a man made invention
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 13:21
Ok then christianity isn't real because you pick and choose what old testiment books are legitimate. Also this'd just reaffirm my belief that Prots aren't christian because some of them reject the old testiment entirely.
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 13:22
to reject the OT is the heresy of Marcionism, none of the classical reformers rejected the OT (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
the Russians, the Franks (multiple times), the Germans (multiple times), split off states from the Eastern Roman Empire, Americans (some of the American founding fathers), they've all claimed to be successors or a succesion of/to the Roman empire (edited)
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 13:22
The Italians, Turks, and Greeks are the only ones with actual grounds the claim that though.
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 13:22
no one points to Alawite randos smacking their heads and crying on camera and says "this is Islam" (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
its not even Muhammad, its a Shia icon of Ali
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 13:23
Thats still disrespectful
serpente482
An enemy of Rome cant be Rome desertroach
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 13:25
Ok lets recap how many enemies of rome became rome. Bulrgaria, servia, romania, greece. Alot of the later Roman kings weren't even greek they came from other balkan countries who invade the romans and placed themselves on the throne of Instanbul.
13:26
So to say this, is incorrect.
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 13:52
https://fxtwitter.com/DaltonReport/status/1404164516988874752?t=siQkZ3EdhwrMvsCdh0HbPA&s=19
13:52
Christ's strongest warrior o algo
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/28/2024 13:55
I get the argument that AOC is subjective. I also get that mental maturity and physical maturity are two completely different things. Someone could definitely be a better mother at 17 than a 25yo mother. But also discussing AOC just leads to some uncomfortable conversations and more often than not, accusations if you so much as question the 18 years bench mark. So I just choose to say "Leave it at 18" because the conversation really is not worth the headache.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I get the argument that AOC is subjective. I also get that mental maturity and physical maturity are two completely different things. Someone could definitely be a better mother at 17 than a 25yo mother. But also discussing AOC just leads to some uncomfortable conversations and more often than not, accusations if you so much as question the 18 years bench mark. So I just choose to say "Leave it at 18" because the conversation really is not worth the headache.
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 13:55
The AOC should be anywhere from 16-18.
13:56
And if that makes me a pedophile idc. (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/28/2024 13:58
But also I think things like a 35 yo dating a 21 yo is complicated too because those are two different life dynamics interacting with one another. A 35 yo is definitely going to have more life experience than a 21 yo. It often leads to a lot of incompatibility and worse case scenario, the younger being manipulated and taken advantage of. So even long past the age of 18, I think anywhere between a 1-7 year gap is best.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
But also I think things like a 35 yo dating a 21 yo is complicated too because those are two different life dynamics interacting with one another. A 35 yo is definitely going to have more life experience than a 21 yo. It often leads to a lot of incompatibility and worse case scenario, the younger being manipulated and taken advantage of. So even long past the age of 18, I think anywhere between a 1-7 year gap is best.
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 13:59
Listen, I have no issue if a 30 something year old woman dates a 18yo man
13:59
Nothing is wrong with age gaps
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/28/2024 13:59
It's rare that an age gap that big is going to work out.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
It's rare that an age gap that big is going to work out.
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 13:59
I will make it work out
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/28/2024 13:59
Don't forget that Illuminaughty frequently dated men way below her age range and used that to her advantage.
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:00
I think young men can consent
14:00
How young are we talking?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/28/2024 14:01
She is 35 or around that bench mark and dated men as young as 21 and completely controlled and manipulated them both financially and emotionally. She was able to do that because she had far more life experience over them.
14:02
I'm not saying these extreme age gaps can't work. They just aren't optimal.
14:03
Age gap compatibility is a real thing. It's more or less why I quit being a furry because the average ages were mostly teenagers and I was just not on the same level as those kids. I felt extremely out of place.
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:03
Mind you this was a common relationship dynamic back in the 1800s
14:03
Old man, young woman.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/28/2024 14:04
Okay and we don't live in the 1800s my dude.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Okay and we don't live in the 1800s my dude.
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:04
I want to
14:04
I want an older woman
Eurocyon
Ok lets recap how many enemies of rome became rome. Bulrgaria, servia, romania, greece. Alot of the later Roman kings weren't even greek they came from other balkan countries who invade the romans and placed themselves on the throne of Instanbul.
serpente482 11/28/2024 14:14
Theres no way this nigga said "Servia" became Rome
serpente482
Theres no way this nigga said "Servia" became Rome
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:15
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine%E2%80%93Serbian_wars https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Du%C5%A1an
Byzantine–Serbian wars
The Byzantine–Serbian wars were a series of wars between the Byzantine Empire and the medieval Serbian states. Starting with the Sclaveni and Antae migrations into the Balkans, the succession of medieval Serbian states went through several periods of warfare with the Eastern Roman Empire.
Stefan Dušan
Stefan Uroš IV Dušan (Serbian Cyrillic: Стефан Урош IV Душан), also known as Dušan the Mighty (c. 1308 – 20 December 1355), was the King of Serbia from 8 September 1331 and Emperor of the Serbs, Greeks, Bulgarians and Albanians from 16 April 1346 until his death in 1355. Dušan is considered one of the greatest medieval Balkan conquerors. Dušan c...
14:16
Sorry chud I study history, you merely dabble in it.
serpente482 11/28/2024 14:16
"I watch 10 minute history videos so that gives me right to missread it however i want"
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:17
Idk this guy basically said "Byzantines? Nah I would win" then crowned himself emporoer of Rome
serpente482 11/28/2024 14:18
Even if that counted as "successor of Roman empire", that it doesnt, how you get from that to the goat fucker kebab empire being successor of Rome?
serpente482
Even if that counted as "successor of Roman empire", that it doesnt, how you get from that to the goat fucker kebab empire being successor of Rome?
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:20
Conquest and adoption of traditions and institutions. This is what many people cite as the reason including the Ottomans.
14:22
Ottomans at their peak
14:22
Roman empire
14:22
The ottomans were very close to having all of the former roman possesion, hell the had all of the ERE possessions
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:29
theres no need for "AOC" if there is a minimum age of marriage and fornication is discouraged and looked down upon in society (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
theres no need for "AOC" if there is a minimum age of marriage and fornication is discouraged and looked down upon in society (edited)
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:30
When is the minimum age of marriage? (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
theres no need for "AOC" if there is a minimum age of marriage and fornication is discouraged and looked down upon in society (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:31
sex outside of marriage should be illegal, with a law that punishes people even further for exploiting someone emotionally and sexually that is far too young compared to them. (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/28/2024 14:31
Ach scheiße. Jetzt geht wieder los...
14:31
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Ach scheiße. Jetzt geht wieder los...
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:31
lol
Мико⚜🐾
sex outside of marriage should be illegal, with a law that punishes people even further for exploiting someone emotionally and sexually that is far too young compared to them. (edited)
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:32
what punishment
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/28/2024 14:33
Eurocyon
When is the minimum age of marriage? (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:33
depends on the readiness of the parties in question, today looking at how society is today it would be 16 in unicorn scenarios, but it (the right and ceremony) would ideally have to be granted by a religious authority such as the church and not a secular authority.
Мико⚜🐾
depends on the readiness of the parties in question, today looking at how society is today it would be 16 in unicorn scenarios, but it (the right and ceremony) would ideally have to be granted by a religious authority such as the church and not a secular authority.
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:33
thats right, you better be careful because last time you said this you came off as a pedo
Eurocyon
what punishment
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:34
jail time for repeat offenders of the former, jail time for the latter
Мико⚜🐾
jail time for repeat offenders of the former, jail time for the latter
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:34
you're insane
Мико⚜🐾
depends on the readiness of the parties in question, today looking at how society is today it would be 16 in unicorn scenarios, but it (the right and ceremony) would ideally have to be granted by a religious authority such as the church and not a secular authority.
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:35
it has to be a government authority thus secular, mikko doesn't know how to administrate law.
Eurocyon
thats right, you better be careful because last time you said this you came off as a pedo
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:36
No, you sperged out and then i clarified my position What I meant to point out, which i did poorly, was that the Church Fathers weren't morally in err for setting the minimum age from anywhere between 14-18 in their time given that the blessing to 'have children' (and have sex in the process) was something that was granted separately, and discretion of the priest and bishop was always used prior to anything beimg granted (edited)
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:37
stop talkimg, you are incriminating yourself
Eurocyon
it has to be a government authority thus secular, mikko doesn't know how to administrate law.
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:37
No, marriages were a religious matter
14:37
they became a secular matter in England in 1836
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:37
it's easier to say "i was wrong"
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:38
and after that, thats when you have the foolishness of divorce law
Eurocyon
it's easier to say "i was wrong"
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:38
No, I'm not wrong and neither were the holy Fathers
Мико⚜🐾
No, marriages were a religious matter
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:38
A church is not the administrative authority that says you can marry, you goto a court
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:38
Now you do
14:39
Before, it was a religious matter entirely
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 14:39
Church would be better (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception
Church would be better (edited)
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:39
even then the church had to get approval form the government in some countries
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:39
I'm not saying they were entirely autocephalous in every case
Eurocyon
you're insane
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:40
punishing people for being impatient is fucking bonkers, infact a fine is all that would be suitable.
Мико⚜🐾
No, I'm not wrong and neither were the holy Fathers
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:40
they are and you should be ashamed, 14yos can't consent (edited)
Eurocyon
you're insane
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:40
I'm not insane, and if you think I'm insane then so are all the greatest Islamic rulers, who criminalized adultery and fornication
14:41
It deters people from being promiscuous
Мико⚜🐾
I'm not insane, and if you think I'm insane then so are all the greatest Islamic rulers, who criminalized adultery and fornication
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:41
no you're insane for jailing people who couldnt wait until wedding to have sex
Eurocyon
they are and you should be ashamed, 14yos can't consent (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 14:41
Doesn't Islam allow marriage/sex after a girl first menstruates which usually starts around 12 or something? (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception
Doesn't Islam allow marriage/sex after a girl first menstruates which usually starts around 12 or something? (edited)
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:41
no thats christianity
Extra-sensory PURRception
Doesn't Islam allow marriage/sex after a girl first menstruates which usually starts around 12 or something? (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:41
cognitive dissonance
Eurocyon
they are and you should be ashamed, 14yos can't consent (edited)
Bn 11/28/2024 14:41
Quran 65:4 some say that it doesn’t specific age but it still allows for leeway with child marriage
14:42
So that’s worse
Eurocyon
no thats christianity
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:42
No Catholic or Orthodox canon says that, so how can that be "Christianity"
Мико⚜🐾
No Catholic or Orthodox canon says that, so how can that be "Christianity"
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:42
its literally in the fucking bible
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:42
No, its not
Eurocyon
its literally in the fucking bible
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 14:42
Show
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:42
Youre pushing the point of view of one scholar
14:42
whom I reject
Bn
Quran 65:4 some say that it doesn’t specific age but it still allows for leeway with child marriage
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:42
but not consumation
Eurocyon
its literally in the fucking bible
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/28/2024 14:42
it's in the Talmud but with 3 years
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:42
Appeal to authority
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 14:42
I really don't think that the Bible says that, Euro (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:43
Ezekiel 16:1-9
BibleBot BOT 11/28/2024 14:43
Ezekiel 16:1-9 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<1> Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying, <2> Son of man, testify to Jerusalem of her iniquities; <3> and thou shalt say, Thus saith the Lord to Jerusalem; Thy root and thy birth are of the land of Canaan: thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother a Hittite. <4> And as for thy birth in the day wherein thou wast born, thou didst not bind thy breasts, and thou wast not washed in water, neither wast thou salted with salt, neither wast thou swathed in swaddling bands. <5> Nor did mine eye pity thee, to do for thee one of all these things, to feel at all for thee; but thou wast cast out on the face of the field, because of the deformity of thy person, in the day wherein thou wast born. <6> And I passed by to thee, and saw thee polluted in thy blood; and I said to thee, Let there be life out of thy blood: <7> increase; I have made thee as the springing grass of the field. So thou didst increase and grow, and didst enter into great cities: thy breasts were set, and thy hair grew, whereas thou wast naked and bare. <8> And I passed by thee and saw thee, and, behold, it was thy time and a time of resting; and I spread my wings over thee, and covered thy shame, and swore to thee: and I entered into covenant with thee, saith the Lord, and thou becamest mine. <9> And I washed thee in water, and washed thy blood from thee, and anointed thee with oil.
Extra-sensory PURRception
I really don't think that the Bible says that, Euro (edited)
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:43
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:43
Bro, we dont care about the opinion of one rando
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:43
thank you ladies and gentlemen and good night
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:43
I can find anyone online who says you worship Hubal
14:43
is it true
Мико⚜🐾
Bro, we dont care about the opinion of one rando
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:43
it's wrote by a person with a degree
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Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:44
So?
Мико⚜🐾
is it true
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:44
people with degrees say Muhammad didnt exist dawg
Мико⚜🐾
So?
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:44
So this educated person here doesn't agree with me thus he is wrong
Eurocyon
it's wrote by a person with a degree
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 14:44
Reddit:
Extra-sensory PURRception
Reddit:
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:44
you're a dumb nigger
14:44
all of you actually
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14:44
I am done here
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 14:45
>Someone disagrees >"You're a dumb nigger" Yeah, that'll show them
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:45
"See you think having an education on matters is important, so you are a redditor"
Eurocyon
"See you think having an education on matters is important, so you are a redditor"
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 14:45
Just because someone has a degree doesn't mean that all they say is factual
Extra-sensory PURRception
Just because someone has a degree doesn't mean that all they say is factual
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:46
I mean it's logical
14:46
it makes sense
Eurocyon
it's wrote by a person with a degree
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/28/2024 14:46
I have a degree and I think you're all morons. You cannot disagree with me now.
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Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 14:46
I wonder how many people with a degree deny Islam
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:46
2+2=4
Extra-sensory PURRception
I wonder how many people with a degree deny Islam
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:46
Hey they can be biased
Eurocyon
Hey they can be biased
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 14:46
Oh, so why isn't your example biased?
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:47
but if a person knows how a quote is supposed to be interpreted why I am supposed to argue
Eurocyon
it's wrote by a person with a degree
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 14:47
i have a certificate from a university
Extra-sensory PURRception
Oh, so why isn't your example biased?
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:47
Because the person who wrote that synopsis is christian
VikingTiger6
i have a certificate from a university
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 14:47
i am better than you o algo for no reason other than that o algo
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VikingTiger6
i have a certificate from a university
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:47
Sorry internet person I cannpt confirm this so be quiet
Мико⚜🐾
No, you sperged out and then i clarified my position What I meant to point out, which i did poorly, was that the Church Fathers weren't morally in err for setting the minimum age from anywhere between 14-18 in their time given that the blessing to 'have children' (and have sex in the process) was something that was granted separately, and discretion of the priest and bishop was always used prior to anything beimg granted (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:48
a good example of this is Ss. Theodora and Justinian not having children together because the Patriarch of Constantinople did not give them (Theodora) a blessing. This was because she was very friendly with the Monophysite and Miaphysite church that split off from the Orthodox after Chalcedon
14:49
She was even baptised Miaphysite, although she came into communion with the Orthodox eventually (edited)
Eurocyon
but not consumation
Bn 11/28/2024 14:49
there’s arguments that it’s otherwise but either way that’s still weird tf why use mental gymnastics to justify it either
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:49
I despise the hatred of education and educational instituion amoungst the right especially libertarians, no wonder why the stereotype is we are stupid.
Eurocyon
Sorry internet person I cannpt confirm this so be quiet
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 14:49
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Eurocyon
I despise the hatred of education and educational instituion amoungst the right especially libertarians, no wonder why the stereotype is we are stupid.
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 14:50
>"we"
Bn
there’s arguments that it’s otherwise but either way that’s still weird tf why use mental gymnastics to justify it either
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:50
because another verse says sex is permitted when the child is ready
14:50
as a maliki this ruling goes to the educated community
14:50
the educated community permits 16
Eurocyon
because another verse says sex is permitted when the child is ready
Bn 11/28/2024 14:50
ok bro im gonna be w a 9 yr old until she’s ready which is puberty in mohammads eyes then that’s fucked
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Eurocyon
because another verse says sex is permitted when the child is ready
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 14:50
would you marry your 9 year old daughter off to a 50 year old man?
VikingTiger6
would you marry your 9 year old daughter off to a 50 year old man?
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:50
what year is it
Bn 11/28/2024 14:51
ye would u pawn her off for a evening
Bn
ok bro im gonna be w a 9 yr old until she’s ready which is puberty in mohammads eyes then that’s fucked
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 14:51
You mean marry a 6 year old?
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:51
am I a time traveler
Bn 11/28/2024 14:51
just for a bit
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:51
was I born in those times
Extra-sensory PURRception
You mean marry a 6 year old?
Bn 11/28/2024 14:51
Talking abt the verse
Eurocyon
but not consumation
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:51
But then if Islam allows the age of marriage to be any minimum age, especially since i hold to the allowance to have children being granted separately, how can you say im a pedophile or that my view is wrong
VikingTiger6
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:51
cool I can potentionally dox you
14:51
you're retarded
Eurocyon
what year is it
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 14:51
year is irrelevant, islam, the quran and its morality is timeless according to allah, muhamad and muslim scholars
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Eurocyon
cool I can potentionally dox you
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 14:52
because you know my name is james and im a power engineer?
VikingTiger6
year is irrelevant, islam, the quran and its morality is timeless according to allah, muhamad and muslim scholars
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:52
The quran says when the community says they are ready, it never aged, society ages
VikingTiger6
because you know my name is james and im a power engineer?
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:52
no the school and seal
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:52
so then pedophilia is relative from your pov
14:52
once again, proving you have no right to criticize me
Eurocyon
The quran says when the community says they are ready, it never aged, society ages
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 14:52
then you should be ok with marrying your 9 year old daughter off because you should fear allahs judgement and morality not societys
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:52
youre a moral relativist (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
youre a moral relativist (edited)
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:53
Argument of extreme
Eurocyon
no the school and seal
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 14:53
thats not the school
14:53
the school gave me a different course i had to pass so i could write the exam through the govt to get certified
Мико⚜🐾
once again, proving you have no right to criticize me
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:53
no mikko, I think the AOC should be 16 upon offical marriage approval, and I use the quran to justify this, I am not use relativity
VikingTiger6
the school gave me a different course i had to pass so i could write the exam through the govt to get certified
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:54
idc you're annoying stop talking
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Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:54
Thats your personal view
Eurocyon
no mikko, I think the AOC should be 16 upon offical marriage approval, and I use the quran to justify this, I am not use relativity
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 14:54
but what if shes ready at 15?
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Мико⚜🐾
Thats your personal view
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:54
and I use the quran to justify this
14:54
it's not relative
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:54
No, you go with whatever society says ultimately
14:54
regarding this matter
VikingTiger6
but what if shes ready at 15?
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:54
I the parent disagree
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:55
Does Allah have an immutable opinion on what pedophilia is
Eurocyon
no mikko, I think the AOC should be 16 upon offical marriage approval, and I use the quran to justify this, I am not use relativity
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 14:55
Okay, so you agree that Muhammad was a pedophile? (edited)
Eurocyon
I the parent disagree
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 14:55
why are you siding with societys man made laws when allahs laws are perfect?
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VikingTiger6
why are you siding with societys man made laws when allahs laws are perfect?
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:55
allah never degreed and AOC
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 14:55
shirk moment (edited)
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Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:55
sooooo he left this to us, he respects our intelligence do not paint me as stupid or even evil
Мико⚜🐾
Does Allah have an immutable opinion on what pedophilia is
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:55
Мико⚜🐾
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 14:56
according to euro, allahs opinion is second to societys
Мико⚜🐾
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:56
God doesn't have to have an opinion on everyhting, like you can be a dick and still follow the bible 100%
VikingTiger6
according to euro, allahs opinion is second to societys
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:56
not even what I said award
Eurocyon
God doesn't have to have an opinion on everyhting, like you can be a dick and still follow the bible 100%
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 14:56
really? the man who created everything would be neutral?
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Eurocyon
God doesn't have to have an opinion on everyhting, like you can be a dick and still follow the bible 100%
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 14:57
Define what you consider being a dick
Eurocyon
not even what I said award
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 14:57
well thats basically what you said when you said youl take societys judgement over allahs
Extra-sensory PURRception
Define what you consider being a dick
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:57
the general consensus not hard to put together
Eurocyon
God doesn't have to have an opinion on everyhting, like you can be a dick and still follow the bible 100%
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:57
thats not true, if you dont do everything in love youre not 'following the Bible 100%'
Мико⚜🐾
thats not true, if you dont do everything in love youre not 'following the Bible 100%'
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:57
cop out
Eurocyon
the general consensus not hard to put together
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:57
but thats subject to change
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:57
"see if you don't love everyone you're not christian"
14:57
libtarded ass argument mikko
Eurocyon
the general consensus not hard to put together
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 14:58
Give the required criteria in this context
Eurocyon
"see if you don't love everyone you're not christian"
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 14:58
no this is accurate
Arcane BOT 11/28/2024 14:58
@VikingTiger6 has reached level 7. GG!
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 14:58
We're operating off of a different definition of "love". For me, the ancient meaning, for you, the modern, empty one (edited)
VikingTiger6
no this is accurate
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:58
ok then love me
Eurocyon
ok then love me
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 14:58
well if i put up with your daily blasphemys im not loving you
14:59
im loving you by rebuking you
VikingTiger6
well if i put up with your daily blasphemys im not loving you
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:59
Blasphemies by arbitrarian standards
VikingTiger6
im loving you by rebuking you
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 14:59
never happened award
15:00
you know what I am just gonna write my religious veiws on the AOC in one big paragraph with citations and leave it there because one sentence name calling gets you no where
Eurocyon
God doesn't have to have an opinion on everyhting, like you can be a dick and still follow the bible 100%
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:00
Would you say the world is intelligently designed
Eurocyon
you know what I am just gonna write my religious veiws on the AOC in one big paragraph with citations and leave it there because one sentence name calling gets you no where
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 15:00
Alright
Eurocyon
Blasphemies by arbitrarian standards
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 15:01
bruh youre really good at sunnah with this gaslighting
15:01
i think youre ready to be the next muhammad
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:01
ad hom
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 15:04
here, enjoy
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Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:07
Saint Jerome and his pet lion (edited)
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Eurocyon
cool I can potentionally dox you
Bn 11/28/2024 15:09
you get shoved into lockers bro
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15:09
why even doxx someone
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 15:10
hes going to send jihad squad to my house for being an abhorrent kafir
Bn 11/28/2024 15:10
yuss
Eurocyon
Conquest and adoption of traditions and institutions. This is what many people cite as the reason including the Ottomans.
serpente482 11/28/2024 15:10
Sex with children is an ancient greece tradition not roman
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:10
So I personally believe the AOC should be 16, and the quran supports my ability to think this via several verses (no this not relativism because it doesn't lay a concrete stance). Surah An-Nisa (4:6) states: “And test the orphans until they reach marriageable age. Then if you perceive in them sound judgment, release their property to them.” This verse refers to "marriageable age" and the idea that a person should have the maturity to handle personal responsibility. Surah An-Nisa (4:19) says: “O you who have believed, it is not lawful for you to inherit women by compulsion. And do not make difficulties for them in order to take [back] part of what you gave them…” This emphasises consent in marriage, prohibiting forceful or non-consensual marriages. Many countries in the Islamic world set the AOC at what the court sees as mature by these verses, and you can see this as in the Islam world the AOC often varies from 16-18, with few exceptions. Surah At-Talaq (65:4): “And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women, if you doubt, then their term is three months. And [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.” (65:4) is not on the AOC but rather the waiting period, I see this often sighted as them setting the AOC low, but isn't.
Eurocyon
So I personally believe the AOC should be 16, and the quran supports my ability to think this via several verses (no this not relativism because it doesn't lay a concrete stance). Surah An-Nisa (4:6) states: “And test the orphans until they reach marriageable age. Then if you perceive in them sound judgment, release their property to them.” This verse refers to "marriageable age" and the idea that a person should have the maturity to handle personal responsibility. Surah An-Nisa (4:19) says: “O you who have believed, it is not lawful for you to inherit women by compulsion. And do not make difficulties for them in order to take [back] part of what you gave them…” This emphasises consent in marriage, prohibiting forceful or non-consensual marriages. Many countries in the Islamic world set the AOC at what the court sees as mature by these verses, and you can see this as in the Islam world the AOC often varies from 16-18, with few exceptions. Surah At-Talaq (65:4): “And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women, if you doubt, then their term is three months. And [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.” (65:4) is not on the AOC but rather the waiting period, I see this often sighted as them setting the AOC low, but isn't.
Bn 11/28/2024 15:11
Oh my gosh
Eurocyon
So I personally believe the AOC should be 16, and the quran supports my ability to think this via several verses (no this not relativism because it doesn't lay a concrete stance). Surah An-Nisa (4:6) states: “And test the orphans until they reach marriageable age. Then if you perceive in them sound judgment, release their property to them.” This verse refers to "marriageable age" and the idea that a person should have the maturity to handle personal responsibility. Surah An-Nisa (4:19) says: “O you who have believed, it is not lawful for you to inherit women by compulsion. And do not make difficulties for them in order to take [back] part of what you gave them…” This emphasises consent in marriage, prohibiting forceful or non-consensual marriages. Many countries in the Islamic world set the AOC at what the court sees as mature by these verses, and you can see this as in the Islam world the AOC often varies from 16-18, with few exceptions. Surah At-Talaq (65:4): “And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women, if you doubt, then their term is three months. And [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.” (65:4) is not on the AOC but rather the waiting period, I see this often sighted as them setting the AOC low, but isn't.
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 15:11
but what if they reach marriable age at 15?
Bn 11/28/2024 15:11
This is going in the book
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:11
How can we know when a girl is ready for marriage? And that your personal position is correct? (edited)
Eurocyon
So I personally believe the AOC should be 16, and the quran supports my ability to think this via several verses (no this not relativism because it doesn't lay a concrete stance). Surah An-Nisa (4:6) states: “And test the orphans until they reach marriageable age. Then if you perceive in them sound judgment, release their property to them.” This verse refers to "marriageable age" and the idea that a person should have the maturity to handle personal responsibility. Surah An-Nisa (4:19) says: “O you who have believed, it is not lawful for you to inherit women by compulsion. And do not make difficulties for them in order to take [back] part of what you gave them…” This emphasises consent in marriage, prohibiting forceful or non-consensual marriages. Many countries in the Islamic world set the AOC at what the court sees as mature by these verses, and you can see this as in the Islam world the AOC often varies from 16-18, with few exceptions. Surah At-Talaq (65:4): “And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women, if you doubt, then their term is three months. And [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.” (65:4) is not on the AOC but rather the waiting period, I see this often sighted as them setting the AOC low, but isn't.
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 15:11
if non consentual marriages arent allowed then muhammad shouldnt have married that one girl he captured from the jews
Bn 11/28/2024 15:11
dawg there’s no way ur saying that a 16 year old can consent
Мико⚜🐾
How can we know when a girl is ready for marriage? And that your personal position is correct? (edited)
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:11
it says maturity
Eurocyon
it says maturity
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:12
How do we define that
Bn
dawg there’s no way ur saying that a 16 year old can consent
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:12
its the AOC accorss NA
15:12
Canada
Eurocyon
its the AOC accorss NA
Bn 11/28/2024 15:12
dude what
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Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:12
ohio
15:12
indiana
15:12
oklohoma
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louisanna
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:12
So, if you grew up in say, Yemen.. would you affirm the law then?
Bn 11/28/2024 15:12
the age of consent in japan was 14 for decades your point is
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Eurocyon
So I personally believe the AOC should be 16, and the quran supports my ability to think this via several verses (no this not relativism because it doesn't lay a concrete stance). Surah An-Nisa (4:6) states: “And test the orphans until they reach marriageable age. Then if you perceive in them sound judgment, release their property to them.” This verse refers to "marriageable age" and the idea that a person should have the maturity to handle personal responsibility. Surah An-Nisa (4:19) says: “O you who have believed, it is not lawful for you to inherit women by compulsion. And do not make difficulties for them in order to take [back] part of what you gave them…” This emphasises consent in marriage, prohibiting forceful or non-consensual marriages. Many countries in the Islamic world set the AOC at what the court sees as mature by these verses, and you can see this as in the Islam world the AOC often varies from 16-18, with few exceptions. Surah At-Talaq (65:4): “And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women, if you doubt, then their term is three months. And [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.” (65:4) is not on the AOC but rather the waiting period, I see this often sighted as them setting the AOC low, but isn't.
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 15:12
Muhammad disapproves of this message
Bn 11/28/2024 15:12
naw bro wtf I’m blocking you
15:12
creep pedo
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 15:12
personally i think AOC is a made up western invention to justify sex before marriage
Bn
the age of consent in japan was 14 for decades your point is
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:12
Ik the AOC is a touchey concept but that does nto mean it's pedophilia
Bn
creep pedo
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:13
Consequences of relativism
Bn
the age of consent in japan was 14 for decades your point is
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 15:13
The AOC is 15 here
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I think
Мико⚜🐾
Consequences of relativism
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:13
wdym that nigga is relative
Bn 11/28/2024 15:13
remind me not to speak to this guy again bro
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:13
is this the same BN that got banned from avericord and my server for being a nuisance
Extra-sensory PURRception
The AOC is 15 here
Bn 11/28/2024 15:13
Rip
VikingTiger6
personally i think AOC is a made up western invention to justify sex before marriage
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:14
agreed
Bn 11/28/2024 15:14
Where do u live if u dont mind extra
Bn
creep pedo
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:14
@Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian is this bad faith?
Eurocyon
is this the same BN that got banned from avericord and my server for being a nuisance
serpente482 11/28/2024 15:14
So he was banned of two fag controlled servers
15:14
Thats a good thing in my book
VikingTiger6
personally i think AOC is a made up western invention to justify sex before marriage
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 15:14
Probably true
Eurocyon
@Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian is this bad faith?
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:14
i think he can hate relativism personally stop pinging him, hes @ work
Eurocyon
@Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian is this bad faith?
serpente482 11/28/2024 15:14
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:14
and has better things to do than coming to your rescue because he didnt read chat
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:14
I am not a pedophile
Eurocyon
I am not a pedophile
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 15:15
Yeah, you just like pedophiles
Eurocyon
I am not a pedophile
serpente482 11/28/2024 15:15
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:15
sure, but as i said, you being a relativist on this matter is concerning
Мико⚜🐾
sure, but as i said, you being a relativist on this matter is concerning
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:15
it's not relative
15:15
as I have religious justifaction for this way of thought
Eurocyon
it's not relative
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:15
You seem to affirm 16 because its the law of the land and only because its the law of the land
Eurocyon
as I have religious justifaction for this way of thought
serpente482 11/28/2024 15:16
Whats the religious justification of mohammad wife age
serpente482
Whats the religious justification of mohammad wife age
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:16
reread what I said
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:16
Thats cultural relativism. You go with the consensus of society at that time
Eurocyon
is this the same BN that got banned from avericord and my server for being a nuisance
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 15:16
reminds me of how muhammad had people killed because they spoke out against him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_%27Afak he was a 120 year old jewish man
Abu 'Afak
Abu 'Afak (Arabic: أبو عفك, died c. 624) was a Jewish poet who allegedly lived in the Hijaz region (today Saudi Arabia). After Muhammad moved to the city of Al-Madina and started to preach Islam, Abu 'Afak did not convert to Islam and was vocal about his opposition to Muhammad. He became a significant political enemy of Muhammad and was subseque...
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VikingTiger6
reminds me of how muhammad had people killed because they spoke out against him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_%27Afak he was a 120 year old jewish man
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:16
cool and based
15:16
o algo
VikingTiger6
reminds me of how muhammad had people killed because they spoke out against him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_%27Afak he was a 120 year old jewish man
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:16
viking, we're not talking about this now
Eurocyon
reread what I said
serpente482 11/28/2024 15:16
No
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Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:16
it reminds me of how the pope led a crusade against heretics in southern france
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and then burned them
Eurocyon
it reminds me of how the pope led a crusade against heretics in southern france
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 15:17
the pope is not my prophet lol
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Eurocyon
it reminds me of how the pope led a crusade against heretics in southern france
serpente482 11/28/2024 15:17
Based
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Kill frenchs
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Eurocyon
it reminds me of how the pope led a crusade against heretics in southern france
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/28/2024 15:17
the gnostic Cathars?
serpente482
Based
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:17
i happened in catalon as well
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
the gnostic Cathars?
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:17
yes
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/28/2024 15:17
yeah
15:17
it was bad
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:17
the Waldensians were causing fitnah in the land
VikingTiger6
the pope is not my prophet lol
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:18
he is the word of god last I checked thats what catholics think
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:18
heretical sects within your land and in your midst cause social unrest
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 15:18
lets just face things, my prophet (Jesus) was sinless and your prophet (Muhammad) wasnt
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:18
today and especially in yesteryear
Eurocyon
i happened in catalon as well
serpente482 11/28/2024 15:18
Even better?!
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Eurocyon
he is the word of god last I checked thats what catholics think
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 15:18
thats part of the reason im not catholic
VikingTiger6
lets just face things, my prophet (Jesus) was sinless and your prophet (Muhammad) wasnt
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:18
those are both my prophets, and many prophets have sinned whats your point? Moses for example
VikingTiger6
thats part of the reason im not catholic
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:19
not a christian then
Eurocyon
those are both my prophets, and many prophets have sinned whats your point? Moses for example
serpente482 11/28/2024 15:19
Bhaal and Moloch
Мико⚜🐾
today and especially in yesteryear
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:19
itd be one thing if they weren't causing any issues but that wasnt the case regarding the Waldensians, the Bogomils, all of the medieval sects that eventually died out
serpente482
Bhaal and Moloch
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:19
Moses is not Ba'al
Мико⚜🐾
itd be one thing if they weren't causing any issues but that wasnt the case regarding the Waldensians, the Bogomils, all of the medieval sects that eventually died out
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:19
wdym bro I am an Adamite
Eurocyon
not a christian then
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 15:19
you dont believe the sahih bukhari, not muslim
Eurocyon
not a christian then
Extra-sensory PURRception 11/28/2024 15:19
Ah, only Catholics are Christian? Sorry @Мико⚜🐾, you're not Christian anymore
Extra-sensory PURRception
Ah, only Catholics are Christian? Sorry @Мико⚜🐾, you're not Christian anymore
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:20
orthodoxy is just eastern catholocism
15:20
and vise versa
VikingTiger6
the pope is not my prophet lol
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:20
in the RC view, he is not infallible in secular affairs anyways. (edited)
Eurocyon
orthodoxy is just eastern catholocism
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:20
No, its not "Eastern Catholicism". anathema to the unia (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
No, its not "Eastern Catholicism". anathema to the unia (edited)
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:21
yes it is
15:21
I said so, thus it must be true.
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Мико⚜🐾
in the RC view, he is not infallible in secular affairs anyways. (edited)
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 15:21
https://www.christianpost.com/news/jews-saved-heaven-salvation-without-jesus-christ-vatican-claims-pope-francis-israel.html is this a secular or spiritual matter?
Jews Are Saved Even Without Believing in Christ, Vatican Claims
The Vatican s Commission for Religious Relations with Jews has released a major new document claiming that Jews are saved even without believing in Jesus Christ
VikingTiger6
https://www.christianpost.com/news/jews-saved-heaven-salvation-without-jesus-christ-vatican-claims-pope-francis-israel.html is this a secular or spiritual matter?
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:21
secular
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and I hate how prots misprotray the pope @serpente482 you can agree
VikingTiger6
https://www.christianpost.com/news/jews-saved-heaven-salvation-without-jesus-christ-vatican-claims-pope-francis-israel.html is this a secular or spiritual matter?
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:22
Spiritual matter, but this wasn't said ex cathedra
VikingTiger6 11/28/2024 15:22
oh ok
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:22
1 pope being in err today at this present time doesnt = whole system falls apart
15:23
i briefly researched the papacy
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:23
I love catholic cock o algo
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:27
i just wanted to make sure i made the correct decision before going to a physical church again
VikingTiger6
https://www.christianpost.com/news/jews-saved-heaven-salvation-without-jesus-christ-vatican-claims-pope-francis-israel.html is this a secular or spiritual matter?
bongvain 11/28/2024 15:30
new pope when
15:30
we needa reroll
Мико⚜🐾
itd be one thing if they weren't causing any issues but that wasnt the case regarding the Waldensians, the Bogomils, all of the medieval sects that eventually died out
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:30
the issue the Latins had with the Waldensians in particular was that they were undermining the ecclesiastical structure of the church
Eurocyon 11/28/2024 15:31
Is mikko justifying the crusades
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:31
and believed any old layman could do homilies and sermons. which is a bad idea, not even Protestant churches do this, even most Baptist pastors have gone to uni/seminar (edited)
Eurocyon
Is mikko justifying the crusades
Мико⚜🐾 11/28/2024 15:34
no, because theres better ways to deal with heretical sects and groups. for example with attempted dialogue, debate and discussion, exile and imprisonment, and only executions if absolutely required. they (the RCC) in my opinion went too far but that doesnt make them completely wrong
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 11/28/2024 21:08
Мико⚜🐾
in the RC view, he is not infallible in secular affairs anyways. (edited)
vanilla✟ 11/29/2024 01:09
Mhm as a byzantine catholic I approve
Eurocyon
Is mikko justifying the crusades
vanilla✟ 11/29/2024 01:10
They are justified
Eurocyon 11/29/2024 01:14
No
дмитрий 12/02/2024 14:06
https://youtu.be/oc821DA22Pg
telosbound
Pornography: The Devil's Iconography
Eurocyon 12/02/2024 14:07
I thouhgt this was mikko for a second
дмитрий 12/02/2024 16:23
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 12/02/2024 21:29
Numbers 12:1-10
BibleBot BOT 12/02/2024 21:29
Numbers 12:1-10 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<1> And Mary and Aaron spoke against Moses, because of his wife the Ethiopian, <2> And they said: Hath the Lord spoken by Moses only? hath he not also spoken to us in like manner? And when the Lord heard this, <3> (For Moses was a man exceeding meek above all men that dwelt upon earth) <4> Immediately he spoke to him, and to Aaron and Mary: Come out you three only to the tabernacle of the covenant. And when they were come out, <5> The Lord came down in a pillar of the cloud, and stood in the entry of the tabernacle calling to Aaron and Mary. And when they were come, <6> He said to them: Hear my words: if there be among you a prophet of the Lord, I will appear to him in a vision, or I will speak to him in a dream. <7> But it is not so with my servant Moses a who is most faithful in all my house: <8> For I speak to him mouth to mouth: and plainly, and not by riddles and figures doth he see the Lord. Why then were you not afraid to speak ill of my servant Moses? <9> And being angry with them he went away: <10> The cloud also that was over the tabernacle departed: and behold Mary appeared white as snow with a leprosy. And when Aaron had looked on her, and saw her all covered with leprosy,
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𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 12/02/2024 21:29
Racemixing is bad
BibleBot
Numbers 12:1-10 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<1> And Mary and Aaron spoke against Moses, because of his wife the Ethiopian, <2> And they said: Hath the Lord spoken by Moses only? hath he not also spoken to us in like manner? And when the Lord heard this, <3> (For Moses was a man exceeding meek above all men that dwelt upon earth) <4> Immediately he spoke to him, and to Aaron and Mary: Come out you three only to the tabernacle of the covenant. And when they were come out, <5> The Lord came down in a pillar of the cloud, and stood in the entry of the tabernacle calling to Aaron and Mary. And when they were come, <6> He said to them: Hear my words: if there be among you a prophet of the Lord, I will appear to him in a vision, or I will speak to him in a dream. <7> But it is not so with my servant Moses a who is most faithful in all my house: <8> For I speak to him mouth to mouth: and plainly, and not by riddles and figures doth he see the Lord. Why then were you not afraid to speak ill of my servant Moses? <9> And being angry with them he went away: <10> The cloud also that was over the tabernacle departed: and behold Mary appeared white as snow with a leprosy. And when Aaron had looked on her, and saw her all covered with leprosy,
VikingTiger6 12/02/2024 21:39
Its funny how the Quran mixed up Mary sister of Moses with Mary mother of Jesus
VikingTiger6
Its funny how the Quran mixed up Mary sister of Moses with Mary mother of Jesus
Мико⚜🐾 12/06/2024 18:45
Shias cope and say that Mary is a typology of Miriam
18:48
https://youtu.be/6Pi7peb_pKw
harmony
Hidden History of Early Christian Art
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Мико⚜🐾
https://youtu.be/6Pi7peb_pKw
Мико⚜🐾 12/06/2024 18:48
@𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
Мико⚜🐾 12/07/2024 17:03
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ungen 12/10/2024 05:14
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ungen 12/10/2024 18:29
Under which circumstances is a planned killing justified? How awful would the target have to be?
ungen
Under which circumstances is a planned killing justified? How awful would the target have to be?
Eurocyon 12/10/2024 18:37
Killing under the Abrahamic faiths are only justified when the believer's life is in danger, furthermore does this apply to other people's lives. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 12/11/2024 15:42
psalm 15:9-10
BibleBot BOT 12/11/2024 15:42
Psalms 15:9-10 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<9> Therefore my heart rejoiced And my tongue exulted; Moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope: <10> Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, Neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Мико⚜🐾 12/11/2024 15:43
psalm 2:1-12
BibleBot BOT 12/11/2024 15:43
Psalms 2:1-12 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<1> Wherefore did the heathen rage, And the nations imagine vain things? <2> The kings of the earth stood up, And the rulers gathered themselves together, Against the Lord, and against his Christ; <3> Saying, Let us break through their bonds, And cast away their yoke from us. <4> He that dwells in the heavens shall laugh them to scorn, And the Lord shall mock them. <5> Then shall he speak to them in his anger, And trouble them in his fury. <6> But I have been made king by him On Zion his holy mountain, <7> Declaring the ordinance of the Lord: The Lord said to me, Thou art my Son, today have I begotten thee. <8> Ask of me, and I will give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, And the ends of the earth for thy possession. <9> Thou shalt rule them with a rod of iron; Thou shalt dash them in pieces as a potter’s vessel. <10> Now therefore understand, ye kings: Be instructed, all ye that judge the earth. <11> Serve the Lord with fear, And rejoice in him with trembling. <12> Accept correction, lest at any time the Lord be angry, And ye should perish from the righteous way: Whensoever his wrath shall be suddenly kindled, Blessed are all they that trust in him.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/11/2024 18:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZwdNgJtGic
The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
UK Starting Digital ID Rollout
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18:15
I put this in religion for a reason
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZwdNgJtGic
bongvain 12/11/2024 23:59
Мико⚜🐾 12/14/2024 03:35
https://youtu.be/5zzRqarCBT4
SIIIG
St Spyridon of Trimythous was an interesting man.
Мико⚜🐾 12/14/2024 13:46
Мико⚜🐾 12/15/2024 03:42
AaWoolf 12/15/2024 22:48
the church I go to has alas acquired a pipe organ, replacing the previous old electric one
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Мико⚜🐾 12/20/2024 10:20
Premise I: 'Vulpix', a unipersonal entity, claims to be 'God' as defined loosely by classical theism. Premise II: If Vulpix is indeed God, he would have all the characteristics we predicate to 'God' in classical theism. Premise III: Vulpix therefore would need to posess the attribute of transcendence above all created things (denial of this makes God's essence imminent in creation and leads to Pantheism.) Vulpix would possess the attributes of eternality and uncreatedness (denial of this makes Vulpix a powerful creature and not 'God'.) Vulpix would be immutable (if Vulpix could change that would imply imperfection and potentia within him and leads to him falling short of being 'God'.) Vulpix would also possess all of the omnis we predicate to the idea of a classical supreme deity (i.e. omnipotence, omnibenevolence, omniscience etc.) Premise IV: Love, by its nature, requires another to be expressed in its fullness. Premise V: Vulpix is unipersonal and transcendent as has been established. A unipersonal, transcendent god exists as a solitary for eternity, being without internal relationality. Premise VI: Such a god has no eternal other to love omnibenevolently within himself prior to creation, as creation is not eternal. Premise VII: In the absence of another eternal entity or person, self-love becomes the highest and/or only form of love Vulpix exhibits. Premise VIII: Self-love, while affirming independence, is inwardly focused and lacks the relational dynamic of giving and receiving love that Man or multipersonal divine entities (i.e. the Trinity) has. Premise IX: If Vulpix creates in order to love in its greatest sense, his love becomes contingent on creation, implying potentia or dependency in his nature. Premise X: If Vulpix does not require creation, his love appears self-centered or incomplete, as there is no eternal outward expression of love he gives. Conclusion: Any unipersonal, transcendent deity whose highest form of love is self-love is narcissistic and lacks relationality, as he either depends on creation to express love or remains eternally self-focused. This challenges the notion of of such an entity being capable of intrinsically and fully loving.
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https://youtu.be/I7y9cXxJUZ4
telosbound
Dumitru Staniloae: Why is God Three Persons?
Мико⚜🐾 12/21/2024 07:33
Мико⚜🐾
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ungen 12/21/2024 20:18
Is it over for this lion?
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Arcane BOT 12/21/2024 20:18
@ungen has reached level 34. GG!
ungen 12/21/2024 20:18
The jungle has fallen
ungen
Is it over for this lion?
bongvain 12/22/2024 00:50
gentle reminder that satan will send the mentally ill with impossibly weak jawlines to ail you
00:50
human and inhuman
ungen
Is it over for this lion?
Мико⚜🐾 12/22/2024 00:50
lmao
Мико⚜🐾 12/22/2024 08:33
08:33
heres what its supposed to look like
08:34
May St. Ignatius of Antioch pray for us all Amein (edited)
08:34
https://youtu.be/-taW5cBWyiM
PatristicNectarFilms
How Could Someone Love Jesus This Much?!
AaWoolf 12/23/2024 21:14
happens too often
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dday 12/24/2024 03:10
Found this, kinda based (edited)
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Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 03:10
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Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 06:02
Plazma Silvara 12/24/2024 07:25
I don't want to voice my opinions on this
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 07:26
we ️ Augustine
Plazma Silvara 12/24/2024 07:55
You somehow made this... Complete faggotry
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Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 08:03
platonically*
VikingTiger6 12/24/2024 09:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQpX_nS82hg so if Quran was written by God, whys it parrot pagan fables?
Nabi Asli
Prophet Muhammad and Dhul Qarnayn
VikingTiger6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQpX_nS82hg so if Quran was written by God, whys it parrot pagan fables?
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 09:42
they just affirm that the tales are real events and divine revelation that "got corrupted" (edited)
09:43
which is ad hoc (edited)
VikingTiger6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQpX_nS82hg so if Quran was written by God, whys it parrot pagan fables?
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 09:45
they affirm that Alexander the Great, a Pagan Greek, was a proto-Muslim somehow (edited)
09:45
they also proclaim the 7 Sleepers of Ephesus, a group of persecuted Christians who hid in a cave and fell asleep in there for anywhere from 200-373 years, to be proto-Muslims (edited)
09:50
They were historical revisionists long before BLMers and cultural Marxists >"They wuz worshippers of Allah bro!"
Мико⚜🐾
they also proclaim the 7 Sleepers of Ephesus, a group of persecuted Christians who hid in a cave and fell asleep in there for anywhere from 200-373 years, to be proto-Muslims (edited)
VikingTiger6 12/24/2024 09:51
wasnt that story fiction?
VikingTiger6
wasnt that story fiction?
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 09:51
That's the thing, it's a legend.
09:51
The Qur'an affirms that they were real. And that they were Muslim, most importantly. (edited)
VikingTiger6 12/24/2024 09:51
i find it funny that muhammad took the ancient equivalent of fairy tales and tried to pass off scuffed versions of them as real events
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 09:51
We have icons of them in the Orthodox Church, but you're not bound to venerate them.
VikingTiger6
i find it funny that muhammad took the ancient equivalent of fairy tales and tried to pass off scuffed versions of them as real events
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 09:52
The compilers of the Qur'an, the proto-Muslims, they couldn't diffrentiate fact from fiction
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Мико⚜🐾
The compilers of the Qur'an, the proto-Muslims, they couldn't diffrentiate fact from fiction
VikingTiger6 12/24/2024 09:52
well one guy could and he was an early apostate
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 09:52
The Syriacs taught them man how to read, taught them philosophy. And then they started cooking with Aristotle and made him relevant in the West again, so fairs. (edited)
VikingTiger6
well one guy could and he was an early apostate
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 09:53
You're presuming any of that convoluted Islamic tradition is historical
Мико⚜🐾
The compilers of the Qur'an, the proto-Muslims, they couldn't diffrentiate fact from fiction
Extra-sensory PURRception 12/24/2024 09:53
As always
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 09:53
There's no reason to presume that, critically speaking.
Мико⚜🐾
You're presuming any of that convoluted Islamic tradition is historical
VikingTiger6 12/24/2024 09:53
well i take the hadiths to be like any history book
09:53
just mans account of something
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 09:54
Well yeah, you could do that, but that's already unnecessarily conceding that the history is accurate and true
09:54
When we really don't have much of a reason to grant that.
Мико⚜🐾
Well yeah, you could do that, but that's already unnecessarily conceding that the history is accurate and true
VikingTiger6 12/24/2024 09:55
well to say that about any ancient history book would be foolish
09:56
remember that some ancient greek history books wrote of giant ants that were trained to mine for gold
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 09:57
The concept of the Bible being textually corrupted was first comprehensively promoted by Ibn Kazem Andalusi (d. 1064 A.D.) as a means of avoiding the obvious contradictions between the Bible and the Quran. Believing that the Quran could not possibly have been corrupted, he then assumed that it was the Bible that underwent textual modifications.
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Мико⚜🐾
The concept of the Bible being textually corrupted was first comprehensively promoted by Ibn Kazem Andalusi (d. 1064 A.D.) as a means of avoiding the obvious contradictions between the Bible and the Quran. Believing that the Quran could not possibly have been corrupted, he then assumed that it was the Bible that underwent textual modifications.
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VikingTiger6 12/24/2024 09:58
wait it took them 400 years to come up with this idea?
09:58
what were they doing for those 400 years?
Мико⚜🐾
The concept of the Bible being textually corrupted was first comprehensively promoted by Ibn Kazem Andalusi (d. 1064 A.D.) as a means of avoiding the obvious contradictions between the Bible and the Quran. Believing that the Quran could not possibly have been corrupted, he then assumed that it was the Bible that underwent textual modifications.
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Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 09:58
The first extant manuscript of al-Bukhari, where claims of the Bible's corruption can be drawn from selective interpretation of certain hadith, is dated to 550 AH.
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VikingTiger6
what were they doing for those 400 years?
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 09:59
Muslims for most, not all of history, but most, have not converted people to their religion through theological argument, (edited)
09:59
and philosophy, (edited)
09:59
but by force and taxation. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Muslims for most, not all of history, but most, have not converted people to their religion through theological argument, (edited)
VikingTiger6 12/24/2024 10:00
well that goes without saying
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 10:01
You read any sources that date before Sahih Al-Bukhari's existence from both Christians and Jews
10:01
and they all report Muslims accepting the Torah and the Gospel
10:01
Them rejecting it and arguing that there was textual corruption, that's an ad hoc argument.
10:02
One that they couldn't even argue for in the 11th century, given that there were even more manuscripts than there are today!
VikingTiger6
well that goes without saying
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 10:03
Muslims completely fell off after Al-Andalus began to divide against itself, at least philosophically speaking. (edited)
VikingTiger6
what were they doing for those 400 years?
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 10:05
I want to point out as well that Muslims did not translate their own religious texts or tradition into any other language than Persian
10:06
The first English translation of the Qur'an was not compiled by a Muslim until 1910. Before then, Anglican, Orthodox and Lutheran Christians translated it themselves. And the ones available today are corrupted with biases left right and centre, there is no critical unbiased Qur'an that is provided to us by a Muslim. (edited)
10:07
The earliest Spanish Qur'an, the Toledo text, is dated to the 1600s. They never translated it themselves into Greek, Orthodox monks and priests had to do it themselves to better understand, discuss with and refute Muslims. (edited)
10:08
You run into the same issues regarding their tradition too.
VikingTiger6 12/24/2024 10:10
well that way they can always tell us we cant accurately understand the Quran unless we know arabic
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Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 10:11
Mhmm
VikingTiger6 12/24/2024 10:11
its plausible deniability
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 10:11
Because theyre just shit at theology
10:11
Lol
Мико⚜🐾
One that they couldn't even argue for in the 11th century, given that there were even more manuscripts than there are today!
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 10:13
the Sa'naa is a lot younger than the Vaticanus, but you have to keep in mind that its a miracle any of our manus have survived
10:15
Because it was commonplace to write on papyri up until the 4th to 5th century AD. Then over time animal skin, vallum, became popular. Proto-Muslims and Muslims wrote on vallum, which does not have an 100-300 year expiry date and easily can last for more than a millenium in decent conditions. (edited)
10:17
Christians faced persecution, confiscation of their religious and liturgical text under the Romans for over 250 years, and then corruption of their texts under the Arians for 70 years. proto-Muslims were dominant in the land they dwelt in and did not face the same circumstances. (edited)
10:18
But despite this we have more manuscript and extrabiblical evidence that attests to scripture, like writings of the Church fathers, which are held to be authentic by even critical scholarship, and far more actual extant manuscripts than the Muslims. (edited)
10:18
Why is that?
VikingTiger6 12/24/2024 10:19
one thing i find crazy is the amount of early biblical texts theyve found and the similarity between them, its unlike any other ancient text where we would usually have a small amount of early surviving texts that could vary by quite a bit, really shows those kafir from distant regions of the world got very organized to write a convincing forgery of the original bible that said muhammad is true or somthing (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 10:20
its just a very ad hoc and unconvincing argument
10:21
its more plausible to just presume that the Bible is mostly preserved than to suggest its been "corrupted"
VikingTiger6 12/24/2024 10:21
believing in the whole muslim narrative on the bible reminds me of those people who try to claim that 1000 years of history were fabricated, you run into the same problems of how did distant people who disagreed with each other all manage to agree on fabricating 1000 years of history
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 10:22
Its just super revisionist and conspiratorial
Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 12:06
Мико⚜🐾
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Мико⚜🐾 12/24/2024 12:06
The Oldest Surviving Icon of the Annunciation of the Theotokos (2nd Century) The oldest surviving icon of the Annunciation is found in the Catacomb of Priscilla on the Via Salaria in Rome, Italy, and dates from the second half of the second century A.D. Priscilla is thought to have been a well-to-do Roman who converted to Christianity and was martyred. These Christian catacombs, along with many others found surrounding Rome, are a treasury of early Christian iconography. One difference between this depiction of the Annunciation and later icons is that the Mother of God is shown with her head uncovered. In Rome, young virginal maidens would always have their heads uncovered, and so the imagery is in keeping with the Christian beliefs regarding Mary, the Mother of Jesus Christ. The veil worn in the East would come to dominate iconography of the Mother of God in later centuries. Other than this difference, it is remarkable how similar this image is to the established iconography of the Annunciation: Mary seated in a high-backed chair, the Archangel Gabriel stood, robed simply, with bare feet, and arm raised to signify he is speaking: Rejoice, O Full of Grace, the Lord is with Thee!
VikingTiger6 12/25/2024 01:31
My dad told me my grandma would balance an egg every equinox
01:31
Was she a witch lol?
Eurocyon 12/25/2024 19:28
@Мико⚜🐾 what is this
Eurocyon
@Мико⚜🐾 what is this
VikingTiger6 12/25/2024 19:31
Looks like a form of gnostisism
Eurocyon
@Мико⚜🐾 what is this
Мико⚜🐾 12/25/2024 19:35
Gnostic sect
Мико⚜🐾
Gnostic sect
Eurocyon 12/25/2024 19:37
I need more detail
Eurocyon
I need more detail
Мико⚜🐾 12/26/2024 02:12
Thats literally just all there is to them. (edited)
02:18
Material world bad, created by an accident or the fall of a god. (edited)
02:18
Spiritual world good
02:18
Christ wasn't actually human, he appeared to be
02:19
Christ came to free man from the accidentally created, ontologically evil world.
Мико⚜🐾 12/26/2024 15:41
Extra-sensory PURRception 12/26/2024 17:26
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 12/26/2024 19:09
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bongvain 12/28/2024 08:08
who else is at the point of life where you dont even want women anymore and would rather live in a cathedral in the mountains as a monk
Мико⚜🐾 12/28/2024 17:44
exodus 20:13 lxx romans 13:9 sblgnt (edited)
BibleBot BOT 12/28/2024 17:44
ΕΞΟΔΟΣ 20:13 - Septuagint (LXX)
<13> Οὐ μοιχεύσεις.
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ΠΡΟΣ ΡΩΜΑΙΟΥΣ 13:9 - SBL Greek New Testament (SBLGNT)
<9> τὸ γάρ· Οὐ μοιχεύσεις, Οὐ φονεύσεις, Οὐ κλέψεις, Οὐκ ἐπιθυμήσεις, καὶ εἴ τις ἑτέρα ἐντολή, ἐν τῷ λόγῳ τούτῳ ἀνακεφαλαιοῦται, ἐν τῷ· Ἀγαπήσεις τὸν πλησίον σου ὡς σεαυτόν.
Мико⚜🐾 12/28/2024 17:45
exodus 20:13 vulgate romans 13:9 vulgate
BibleBot BOT 12/28/2024 17:45
Exodus 20:13 - Biblia Sacra Vulgata (VULGATE)
<13> Non occides.
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Romanos 13:9 - Biblia Sacra Vulgata (VULGATE)
<9> Nam: Non adulterabis: non occides: non furaberis: non falsum testimonium dices: non concupisces: et si quod est aliud mandatum, in hoc verbo instauratur: diliges proximum tuum sicut teipsum.
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Мико⚜🐾 12/28/2024 17:45
exodus 20:14 vulgate
BibleBot BOT 12/28/2024 17:45
Exodus 20:14 - Biblia Sacra Vulgata (VULGATE)
<14> Non moechaberis.
bongvain 12/29/2024 04:56
the only people who take your ability to say "no" are those who want you enslaved and Lord forbid they defend themselves with a tool that has range
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04:57
the dude then throws his gun on the floor and says the lebanese army can protect him
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04:57
this video has got to be bait
04:58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij2GNl5bxY8
Followers Of Christ News
Priest Delivering Mass Carrying A Rifle
Мико⚜🐾 12/29/2024 08:08
luke 1:28 vulgate
BibleBot BOT 12/29/2024 08:08
Lucas 1:28 - Biblia Sacra Vulgata (VULGATE)
<28> Et ingressus angelus ad eam dixit: Ave gratia plena: Dominus tecum: benedicta tu in mulieribus.
Мико⚜🐾 12/29/2024 08:08
luke 1:27-28 vulgate
BibleBot BOT 12/29/2024 08:08
Lucas 1:27-28 - Biblia Sacra Vulgata (VULGATE)
<27> ad virginem desponsatam viro, cui nomen erat Joseph, de domo David: et nomen virginis Maria. <28> Et ingressus angelus ad eam dixit: Ave gratia plena: Dominus tecum: benedicta tu in mulieribus.
bongvain 12/30/2024 13:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rGoWSJCZ5E
Born Again Barbarian
What Talmudic Rabbis Don't Want Gentiles To Know
13:01
swear that the talmud has got to be made up by the 4th reich or some shit but no its just judaism being judaism
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bongvain
swear that the talmud has got to be made up by the 4th reich or some shit but no its just judaism being judaism
Мико⚜🐾 12/30/2024 13:04
Christians have been burning their books for millenia
13:04
theyre disgusting lol
Мико⚜🐾
Christians have been burning their books for millenia
bongvain 12/30/2024 13:05
good
13:06
actually hurts me a group of SAPIENT beings wrote it
bongvain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rGoWSJCZ5E
Eurocyon 12/30/2024 13:31
Don't let a christian disect the talmud
Мико⚜🐾 12/30/2024 13:47
will he misrepresent the holy book of the yehudim
Eurocyon
Don't let a christian disect the talmud
bongvain 12/30/2024 14:35
why do you sniggers like child pussy so much
14:35
but fr why
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14:37
>please dont look its BAD but actually were fine just dont look!!!
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Eurocyon
Don't let a christian disect the talmud
Plazma Silvara 12/30/2024 16:08
Ok redditard
bongvain 12/30/2024 19:05
>avoid worldly corruption through christ and the kingdom >fall to worldly corruption
19:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPE_N6rQwNw
Call Me Kevin
wtf are American Super Pastors
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/31/2024 00:17
It's hard not to fall to worldly corruption when all you know is the world.
bongvain 12/31/2024 00:24
then i guess i dont want to know the world
00:25
God save us from ourselves and those who wish harm
Мико⚜🐾 12/31/2024 17:45
Eurocyon 01/01/2025 19:20
@Мико⚜🐾 who are the nestorians
Eurocyon
@Мико⚜🐾 who are the nestorians
Мико⚜🐾 01/01/2025 19:27
The Nestorians are self-proclaimed followers of the heresiarch Nestorius, a disgraced former Patriarch of Constantinople and student of the Antiochene Catechetical School.
Мико⚜🐾 01/02/2025 01:25
Мико⚜🐾 01/02/2025 01:54
Eurocyon 01/05/2025 16:44
16:44
Muslim in this case being former muslim
16:46
He is harassing me further
Мико⚜🐾
The Nestorians are self-proclaimed followers of the heresiarch Nestorius, a disgraced former Patriarch of Constantinople and student of the Antiochene Catechetical School.
Мико⚜🐾 01/05/2025 16:49
They believe that Christ has 2 natures, 2 hypostasis and feign that He still has 1 prosopa, or mask. (edited)
16:51
and deny the doctrine of the hypostatic union explicated in its fullness by St. Cyril but held to by those prior to his day like the Cappadocians, in which almost all Christians believe in. that is the belief that the human nature of Christ at the moment of the Incarnation is not self-subsistent, and is conjoined and subsists/has its terminus in the Word (the 2nd person of the Godhead) (edited)
16:54
There was never in existence a human hypostasis furthermore, you did not have a joining of the human hypostasis of the Man Christ and the divine hypostasis of God the Son. However we would still say, as followers of St. Cyril's Christology, that Jesus Christ is a divino-human person.
16:54
This is because He posesses a human nature post-incarnation though, not because the person itself underwent change.
16:55
@Eurocyon
Eurocyon 01/05/2025 16:57
Holy shit christianity is convoluted for no reason
16:57
Alright I have questions
16:57
Several
Мико⚜🐾
and deny the doctrine of the hypostatic union explicated in its fullness by St. Cyril but held to by those prior to his day like the Cappadocians, in which almost all Christians believe in. that is the belief that the human nature of Christ at the moment of the Incarnation is not self-subsistent, and is conjoined and subsists/has its terminus in the Word (the 2nd person of the Godhead) (edited)
Eurocyon 01/05/2025 16:59
Who are the Calladocians? What is Hypostasis? What is prosopa? What is the difference between human and divune hypostasis?
Мико⚜🐾 01/05/2025 17:04
The Cappadocians? The Cappadocian Fathers, Ss. Basil the Great, Gregory the Theologian and Gregory of Nyssa. They are famous pillars of the Orthodox Christian faith and are best known for defending the Church against the heresies of Arianism, Macedonianism (denial of the distinct personhood and/or divinity of the Holy Spirit) and Eunomianism (strict Arianism, the Father creates the Son and the Son creates the Holy Spirit) and their monastic/pastoral literature. St. Basil and St. Gregory the Theologian are in particular important to Eastern Orthodox Christians because they explicitly teach what we hold to today: the essence energies distinction. However all three are venerated highly together. (edited)
Eurocyon 01/05/2025 17:05
I see
17:05
They are councilmen and bishops
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/05/2025 17:10
@Мико⚜🐾 You ever wonder what the IQ of the disciples and first scholars was?
17:10
That tickles my curiocity all the time.
Мико⚜🐾 01/05/2025 17:16
A hypostasis would be a nature with personal properties according to us.
17:19
"A hypostasis is a certain essence with properties or a certain essence comprehensive of particulars, [i.e.] of all properties in the concrete individual."
“Hypostasis’ is that which exists distinctly and by-itself, since they say that ‘hypostasis’ is an essence (ούσίαν) together with particular properties (ίδιωμάτον) and it differs from other members of the same genus in number.”
An ‘hypostasis’ is, according to the philosophers, an essence with properties. According to the Fathers, it is the particular human being who as a person is distinct from other human beings.”
`St. Maximos, Epistles 13 and 15, Opuscula theologica et polemica 26, (PG 91, 276a-b)`
Eurocyon
They are councilmen and bishops
Мико⚜🐾 01/05/2025 17:20
yup
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
That tickles my curiocity all the time.
Мико⚜🐾 01/05/2025 17:20
im unsure most of them were simple men, and had help from their followers to dictate their theology. Like St. John for example. but there were a few high-IQers for sure (edited)
17:21
Like St. Dionysius the Areopagite and St. Paul for example.
17:22
St. Justin Martyr, those guys were very well schooled and read up on the philosophy of their day.
Eurocyon
Who are the Calladocians? What is Hypostasis? What is prosopa? What is the difference between human and divune hypostasis?
Мико⚜🐾 01/05/2025 17:26
The/A "divine hypostasis" would refer to one of the 3 Persons of the Holy Trinity (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), as fully divine and eternal. A human hypostasis refers to a distinct, individual human being, encompassing both body and soul, created by God and finite.
17:29
ohh yeah i forgot to answer what a prosopa is. Prosopa would be person.
Eurocyon 01/05/2025 17:53
@Мико⚜🐾
Мико⚜🐾 01/05/2025 17:55
No, Christ founded the Catholic Church
17:55
They did however fall away into heresy, we would say
17:55
But that still does not change the fact that they were, in the eyes of the East, Orthodox for over 1000 years.
17:56
We only completely broke off from them after 2nd Lyons in 1275.
Eurocyon 01/05/2025 17:56
They said Jesus founded the orthodox church despite me affirming that the orthodox split away because they felt the Roman bishop was gaining too much power
Мико⚜🐾 01/05/2025 17:56
We have the same origin, it's just theyve fell away from the path a bit (edited)
Eurocyon
@Мико⚜🐾
Мико⚜🐾 01/05/2025 17:59
That's incorrect. Rome broke away from Constantinople in 1054 when they excommunicated them. But then a few decades later when the crusades started, the Emperor of the Eastern Roman Empire said there was no schism. It remained like this for a while but then there was a mutual breaking off again. As for the other sees, they were not excommunicated by Rome at 1054, only Constantinople was. Many retained their relations with Rome even after the Gregorian reforms, in hope that they would repent. (edited)
18:00
So the other Patriarchates over many years cut off Rome, except for in the case of Jerusalem in which Rome set up their own hierarchy.
18:01
Rome departed from the faith, we would say, but you cant say they "schismed" from us in the sense that they broke communion with all the East. (edited)
18:02
A lot of people think that the West cut off the East in 1054 altogether, it was a lot more complicated than that.
Eurocyon
He is harassing me further
Eurocyon 01/05/2025 23:44
@Мико⚜🐾 THE HELLENIST HA SPENT ALL DAY INSULTING ME
Eurocyon 01/05/2025 23:51
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Eurocyon
@Мико⚜🐾 THE HELLENIST HA SPENT ALL DAY INSULTING ME
VikingTiger6 01/05/2025 23:59
Point out to him how hellenists were gay pedophiles and would cut their dicks off then provide proof
Eurocyon
@Мико⚜🐾 THE HELLENIST HA SPENT ALL DAY INSULTING ME
Мико⚜🐾 01/06/2025 02:04
hes a larper who probably hasnt even read plato or the iliad (edited)
02:04
guarantee it
Мико⚜🐾
hes a larper who probably hasnt even read plato or the iliad (edited)
Eurocyon 01/06/2025 02:09
he claims he has then demanded I do
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02:09
then i said "Read Ibn Sina"
Eurocyon 01/06/2025 03:12
@Мико⚜🐾 I have said nothing for hours
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03:12
he is sitll here
Eurocyon
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Мико⚜🐾 01/06/2025 03:15
ultimately polytheism leads to Arianism, there has to be a single cause (aita) for all existence (edited)
03:15
even if there are other beings that are given the authority the create the universe, they still derive that power from another, something higher than them
03:16
if they act autonomously, they only do this out of the One permitting them to do that.
03:17
as a result those "gods" aren't truly gods, you can't say that they have divinity really, theyre just very powerful entities. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
ultimately polytheism leads to Arianism, there has to be a single cause (aita) for all existence (edited)
Eurocyon 01/06/2025 03:18
His argument argued all the gods were one conciuosness, despite me telling him they all have conflicting goals and ideals too conflicting to actually create anything
03:18
But whenever i brought up myths to state that, he would just say "erm those are metaphores"
Мико⚜🐾 01/06/2025 03:19
the Pagans didn't think that though lol, nearly all of them were literalists and allegorists. the Ancients didn't split up text into these two categories.. (edited)
Eurocyon
His argument argued all the gods were one conciuosness, despite me telling him they all have conflicting goals and ideals too conflicting to actually create anything
Мико⚜🐾 01/06/2025 03:20
yeah, but if he's a Hellenic pagan most of his gods are born/generated within time, not outside of it (edited)
03:20
and therefore can't be god
03:20
he can't argue that he believes in some multipersonal deity
03:24
divine persons can't come into existence within time
Eurocyon
His argument argued all the gods were one conciuosness, despite me telling him they all have conflicting goals and ideals too conflicting to actually create anything
Мико⚜🐾 01/06/2025 03:24
exactly, they fight one another, which denotes conflicting wills.
Мико⚜🐾
yeah, but if he's a Hellenic pagan most of his gods are born/generated within time, not outside of it (edited)
Eurocyon 01/06/2025 03:33
Except Khoas
03:34
1
03:34
You'd think I must've killed his mum
03:41
is this character comedy???
Ivory 01/06/2025 03:44
Last night was huge bc the Cresent moon was large and faced downward and Sirius and Regulus was out
03:45
Also something to note at 10:30pm Jupiter was at the apex on new years eve
03:45
Highest point in the sky
03:46
I did a libation last night it was nice
Ivory
Also something to note at 10:30pm Jupiter was at the apex on new years eve
Eurocyon 01/06/2025 03:47
cool
Ivory
I did a libation last night it was nice
Eurocyon 01/06/2025 03:47
libation??
Eurocyon
libation??
Ivory 01/06/2025 03:48
U take a wooden carved bowl and fill it with mead or butter and u throw it into a fire
Ivory
U take a wooden carved bowl and fill it with mead or butter and u throw it into a fire
Eurocyon 01/06/2025 03:50
pics
Arcane BOT 01/06/2025 03:50
@Eurocyon has reached level 70. GG!
Ivory 01/06/2025 03:50
Unfortunately I didn't take a pic or video of me doing oof
Ivory
Also something to note at 10:30pm Jupiter was at the apex on new years eve
Ivory 01/06/2025 04:12
Jupiter will reach the apex again soon in like 15ish mins
Eurocyon 01/06/2025 04:25
lets see if i can pass this speech check
04:26
failed
1
Eurocyon 01/06/2025 06:18
An hour later
VikingTiger6 01/06/2025 06:19
Just reply "obsessed o algo"
Eurocyon
An hour later
Мико⚜🐾 01/06/2025 06:27
obsessed esl jartycuck
Eurocyon
@Мико⚜🐾 I have said nothing for hours
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/06/2025 11:13
This is actual seething
11:13
Like the definition of seething
Ivory 01/06/2025 12:44
What made him so stuck up bruh
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
This is actual seething
Eurocyon 01/06/2025 15:06
1
15:06
All him
Eurocyon
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Extra-sensory PURRception 01/06/2025 15:08
Seems like an absolute faggot
Extra-sensory PURRception
Seems like an absolute faggot
Eurocyon 01/06/2025 15:09
It got so bad they made rules, and some of the rules are towards him
Мико⚜🐾 01/06/2025 15:46
https://youtu.be/pAW-2jOm3M0
telosbound
The Myth of the “Dark Ages”
Eurocyon 01/06/2025 16:28
https://youtube.com/shorts/BXqS2evkjlk?si=jeVUL_VDp4MpmS-F
Curious Wolf
Europe's History of Coffee️
VikingTiger6
Just reply "obsessed o algo"
Ivory 01/06/2025 16:34
What's o algo mean
Ivory
What's o algo mean
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/06/2025 16:35
Or something
Ivory 01/06/2025 16:35
O
16:35
Is Spanish ig lol
Eurocyon
https://youtube.com/shorts/BXqS2evkjlk?si=jeVUL_VDp4MpmS-F
Ivory 01/06/2025 16:36
Coffee pog
16:37
I love coffee uwu
Ivory
I love coffee uwu
Eurocyon 01/06/2025 18:14
Ok
Мико⚜🐾
https://youtu.be/pAW-2jOm3M0
Ivory 01/06/2025 18:46
The dark ages r my favorite era of history bc castles and such
18:47
My favorite castle is Luxembourg castle
18:48
It was such a large castle and so fortified that it lasted as a military installation up until ww1
1
Ivory
My favorite castle is Luxembourg castle
Eurocyon 01/06/2025 18:48
Lichtenstien mogs luxemvourg
Ivory 01/06/2025 18:48
I think lichtenstein also was kinda pog :3
18:49
Infact this summer my family will be visiting there
18:49
The city
1
Ivory
I think lichtenstein also was kinda pog :3
Eurocyon 01/06/2025 19:27
Where are you from
Ivory
I think lichtenstein also was kinda pog :3
Мико⚜🐾 01/06/2025 19:27
it is pog
19:28
its still there ;3
Ivory
The dark ages r my favorite era of history bc castles and such
Мико⚜🐾 01/06/2025 19:29
based
Мико⚜🐾
its still there ;3
ungen 01/06/2025 19:33
It's gone
19:33
I stole it today
Мико⚜🐾 01/06/2025 19:33
nooooo
ungen 01/06/2025 19:33
Using a house with 1 million ballons and a troon's unbreaking rope
19:33
Upturned it straight off the earth
1
Мико⚜🐾 01/06/2025 19:35
Eurocyon
Where are you from
Ivory 01/06/2025 19:38
I live in Texas
Arcane BOT 01/06/2025 19:38
@Ivory has reached level 7. GG!
Ivory 01/06/2025 19:38
:3
19:38
However I was born in Maryland
19:38
Near Washington dc
Ivory
I live in Texas
Eurocyon 01/06/2025 19:38
I see
Ivory 01/06/2025 19:41
My backround is mostly middle eastern
19:41
My family is from lebenon
19:41
I love Arab food
19:41
My favorite is grape leaves
19:41
And falafel
19:41
:3
Мико⚜🐾 01/06/2025 20:08
Lebanon? based
20:08
VikingTiger6 01/06/2025 20:12
Ivorys family are Lebanon Christians too but they moved to America and he converted to America's native religion of homosexuality
4
1
Ivory 01/06/2025 21:28
No my family is still christen
21:28
My mom goes to church
4
21:29
I just go to furry conventions
VikingTiger6
Ivorys family are Lebanon Christians too but they moved to America and he converted to America's native religion of homosexuality
Plazma Silvara 01/06/2025 21:29
As opposed to Canada's native religion of cutting your dick off
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/06/2025 21:29
Once I achieve my plan of getting a car this year, I'll start attending Church again. Working Sundays then travelling an hour to church after work is just not feasible right now.
Plazma Silvara
As opposed to Canada's native religion of cutting your dick off
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 01/06/2025 21:30
Or polish native religion of dying to ethyl alcohol overdose
Ivory 01/06/2025 21:31
My dad bought me my car and so I go to furry meetups and conventions and that's where I heard about Roman paganism
Plazma Silvara 01/06/2025 21:32
Old Honda?
Ivory 01/06/2025 21:32
No
21:32
Nissian altima
21:32
We swapped the engine tho
21:33
The body is nissian but the engine isn't
Ivory
I just go to furry conventions
Мико⚜🐾 01/06/2025 22:31
you could always do both
Plazma Silvara
As opposed to Canada's native religion of cutting your dick off
Мико⚜🐾 01/06/2025 22:31
LOL
Мико⚜🐾
you could always do both
Ivory 01/07/2025 00:23
U should come with me
Ivory
U should come with me
Мико⚜🐾 01/07/2025 02:59
to a con?
Ivory
The body is nissian but the engine isn't
Zoraxe 01/07/2025 02:59
What engine does it have?
Мико⚜🐾 01/07/2025 02:59
im not in the states
Zoraxe 01/07/2025 03:00
Also, approximately where are you in the States?
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
Or polish native religion of dying to ethyl alcohol overdose
Мико⚜🐾 01/07/2025 03:00
better than the London native religions of nu-Atheism and Pakism
Мико⚜🐾
to a con?
Ivory 01/07/2025 03:00
Yes
Мико⚜🐾 01/07/2025 03:00
https://youtu.be/O2UHtARxGBI
Adoration of the Cross
Christmas Kontakion : Today the Virgin/ Дева днесь Пресущественнаго...
03:00
https://youtu.be/tgQrVDBAjD8
Orthodox Church
And so shall we ever be with our Lord
Мико⚜🐾
im not in the states
Ivory 01/07/2025 03:00
Don't worry there are many in europe and Australia
Ivory
Yes
Мико⚜🐾 01/07/2025 03:00
sure
Ivory 01/07/2025 03:00
^w^
03:00
Australia or europe
03:00
There's one in Brisbane and one in melebourn
Zoraxe 01/07/2025 03:01
Oh, Australia's far
Мико⚜🐾 01/07/2025 03:01
if/when id ever go, itd be a detour during a longer trip in europe or the states (edited)
Zoraxe 01/07/2025 03:01
That's a long walking and swimming distance for me
Мико⚜🐾 01/07/2025 03:01
i dont know about Australia just for a furry convention.
Ivory 01/07/2025 03:02
If u wanna go to a furry convention go to one in America
03:02
We have the biggest
03:02
I recently went to mff
03:02
It was huge
03:02
Best furry con imo is called TFF
03:02
Very fun
03:02
Very good first con
03:03
Although in Europe there is a con in Oslo Norway called Nordic fuzz con
03:04
Their main big event is a furry opera
03:04
+ regular stuff at a furry con
03:04
Its cool
Ivory
Very good first con
Zoraxe 01/07/2025 04:07
What kind of stuff do you do at a convention?
Arcane BOT 01/07/2025 04:07
@Zoraxe has reached level 31. GG!
Zoraxe
What kind of stuff do you do at a convention?
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 04:07
I know exactly what I would do
04:08
Zoraxe 01/07/2025 04:09
I mean, everybody's got their preference for events at conventions. Aside from the typical booths and vendors, idk what happens at furcons
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 04:20
Sell loads amount of fentanyl and heroin
04:20
Make Bank
1
Zoraxe
I mean, everybody's got their preference for events at conventions. Aside from the typical booths and vendors, idk what happens at furcons
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:37
For TFF specificly it's a very social con The main con floor is basicly a very large room with escalators to go up or down that's about the size of a football field and its right next to a similar size room with a 24hr rave
05:37
If u have a low social battery I wouldn't recommend
05:38
On the escalators if u go up there r pannel rooms and if u go down there r the vendors (at furry cons this is called the dealers den)
05:38
And then connected to the main con floor is a sky bridge connected to all the main hotels
05:39
The main con room and rave room was very packed
05:39
Ontop of a very full dealers area
05:39
And the raves at night were massive
05:39
Here I have a video:
05:41
05:42
Saturday night rave
05:42
It was about as dense up until the very back wall
05:42
In terms of ppl
05:42
Huge time
Мико⚜🐾 01/07/2025 05:43
idk, this aint my typa music
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:43
The floor was literally shaking bc we on a 2nd floor at times
05:43
Well not every con is like that
05:43
If u want a more chill relaxed vibe I would suggest perhaps anthrocon
1
Ivory
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 05:44
You have to wear a gas mask so you don't contact airborne HIV in that room
1
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:44
It's a bigger con but nore lowkey
Plazma Silvara
You have to wear a gas mask so you don't contact airborne HIV in that room
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:44
?
05:44
Anyways
05:44
Anthrocon has a more chill vibe
05:44
Bigger con don't get me wrong
05:44
But the convention literally rents out 4 city blocks out of Pittsburgh for the weekend
05:45
It feels more like a "furry town" than a con
Ivory
But the convention literally rents out 4 city blocks out of Pittsburgh for the weekend
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 05:45
I wonder if the guy that fucked a dead dog shows up
05:45
He probably does
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:45
Restaurants and shops around the city Don furry attire for the occasion and everything
05:46
And even a parade down town with all the fursuits
Plazma Silvara
I wonder if the guy that fucked a dead dog shows up
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:46
Who?
05:46
Anyways
Ivory
Who?
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 05:46
Kero
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:46
I never heard of kero
05:46
I usually watch purple and bootles
05:47
I use to watch porcarii roo back when they were around
05:47
When porcari roo got married they quit yt
05:47
She was cool tho
05:47
Anyways
05:47
If u want a chill con that isn't huge
05:47
Try Stratosfur in houston Tx
05:48
Small small con but I had a great time
05:48
I went to a room party where they had 5 mini waffle makers going and giving out free waffles to everyone
05:48
It was great
Ivory
I use to watch porcarii roo back when they were around
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 05:48
Who?
Plazma Silvara
Who?
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:49
Is a furry youtuber back in the day
05:49
I think they quit tho
05:49
When she married her wife
05:49
She was an Australian furry
05:49
I remeber when Detroit become human came out I watched her 12 hr stream of the game lol
Ivory
?
Мико⚜🐾 01/07/2025 05:49
it was a joke haha
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:50
O oof lol
05:50
Sry lol I have a hard time knowing when ppl are being silly and serious
05:50
Even irl it kinda be that way
05:51
Anyways
05:51
Every furry convention has its own personality
05:51
It's all lovely
05:51
Out of all the cons
05:51
I'd say tff was the best
05:51
Like their all great
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 05:51
The hell is tff?
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:52
But the best of the best was tff
Ivory
Like their all great
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 05:52
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:52
It's an abriviation
05:52
Tff means Texas Furry Fiesta
05:52
The name of the convention
05:52
Acronym
05:53
:3
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 05:53
Also you can't say they're all great
Arcane BOT 01/07/2025 05:53
@Plazma Silvara has reached level 16. GG!
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 05:53
There were some... Massive failures... A massive is too small to put it...
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:53
Well all the ones I've been to so far have been great
05:54
Well some don't do too well like FFA and RF and BRFF
05:54
But all the ones I been to have been pretty good
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 05:54
FWA could literally be in a crack house and nothing would be the difference (edited)
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:54
Lmao
05:55
Yea FWA was crazy bro
05:55
I heard someone's finger got cut off
05:55
Ppl r wild
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 05:55
"yeah let's put a furry convention in Atlanta that's a good idea"
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:55
X3
05:55
Atlanta already crackhead heaven
05:56
I wanna go to fwa someday
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 05:56
Fwa is literally the best place to sell drugs
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:56
I never been
05:56
I never touched drugs
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 05:56
You want to buy an ounce? Only three bank loans!
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:56
However I have smoked weed twice
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 05:56
got to turn those prices into four figure sums because it's a furry convention
05:57
Want to buy a Cosby cocktail?
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:57
What's that
05:57
Genuine question
05:57
A Cosby cocktail
05:57
Wait
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 05:57
It's a drink that knocks someone out for about 2 days
05:57
I think you get it
Ivory 01/07/2025 05:57
O lol yea I just got it
05:58
I had to think >w<
05:58
Maybe u would enjoy FWA
05:58
I never been to Atlanta
05:58
I wanna go
05:58
I been to mff in Chicago tho
05:58
Very large furry con
05:58
2nd biggest
05:59
It was great
05:59
Denfur is also nice
Arcane BOT 01/07/2025 05:59
@Ivory has reached level 8. GG!
Ivory 01/07/2025 06:00
It's in Denver Colorado
Zoraxe
I mean, everybody's got their preference for events at conventions. Aside from the typical booths and vendors, idk what happens at furcons
Мико⚜🐾 01/07/2025 06:00
orgies
Ivory 01/07/2025 06:00
I love Colorado it has pretty mountains
Ivory
I never been to Atlanta
Мико⚜🐾 01/07/2025 06:01
havent heard good things
06:01
have heard good things about colorado thou
Мико⚜🐾
orgies
Zoraxe 01/07/2025 06:01
I'd be avoiding any sexual content like the plague
Ivory 01/07/2025 06:01
Colorado is buetiful
06:01
I never done anything sexual with furries
Ivory
Maybe u would enjoy FWA
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 06:01
I don't like fags
Ivory 01/07/2025 06:02
3:
Мико⚜🐾
havent heard good things
Ivory 01/07/2025 06:02
Atlanta is just a bad place lol
06:02
All around
06:02
Big furry con is pog yes
06:02
But the city
06:03
06:03
But yea
06:03
If u ever go to a furry convention go to tff
06:04
I am eepy
Ivory
If u have a low social battery I wouldn't recommend
Zoraxe 01/07/2025 06:04
I'm admittedly introverted most of the time, but I've been going out on a limb to meet more people. I've been to plenty of anime conventions recently, but I'm not huge into anime. I enjoy them more for talking with other artists. However, I did attend more of the alte night events like afterparties at the venue and such
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 06:05
I only do things is it's necessary at this point
Zoraxe
I'm admittedly introverted most of the time, but I've been going out on a limb to meet more people. I've been to plenty of anime conventions recently, but I'm not huge into anime. I enjoy them more for talking with other artists. However, I did attend more of the alte night events like afterparties at the venue and such
Ivory 01/07/2025 06:05
If u wanna meet new ppl go to mff and strike up a convo with literally anyone
06:05
On the con floor
Zoraxe 01/07/2025 06:05
I'm open to trying out a furcon, but I haven't researched it a lot. Also don't want to go by myself at least for out of state, but we'll see lol
Zoraxe
I'm open to trying out a furcon, but I haven't researched it a lot. Also don't want to go by myself at least for out of state, but we'll see lol
Ivory 01/07/2025 06:06
Dm if u need help
06:06
Would lowkey be down
Zoraxe 01/07/2025 06:06
sure thing
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 06:06
I don't think I'm allowed out of state at this point lmao
Plazma Silvara
I don't think I'm allowed out of state at this point lmao
Zoraxe 01/07/2025 06:07
"7 watchlists"
Zoraxe
"7 watchlists"
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 06:07
Probably
06:07
It's a long story
Zoraxe 01/07/2025 06:17
Maybe 8 watchlists
Plazma Silvara 01/07/2025 06:20
I don't know
06:20
Possibly
06:20
¯⁠⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯
Ivory
Big furry con is pog yes
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 01/07/2025 09:55
I doubt it
1
Eurocyon 01/07/2025 15:11
He's been at it for 3 days striaght
Eurocyon
He's been at it for 3 days striaght
Extra-sensory PURRception 01/07/2025 15:14
Just ignore him
Extra-sensory PURRception
Just ignore him
Eurocyon 01/07/2025 15:15
Have you seen a single reply
Eurocyon
Have you seen a single reply
Extra-sensory PURRception 01/07/2025 15:16
Yeah
Extra-sensory PURRception
Yeah
Eurocyon 01/07/2025 15:17
The funny thing is, that's not even a reply to his message
15:17
It was me talking with the mods
Extra-sensory PURRception 01/07/2025 15:17
You can still just ignore him
Eurocyon 01/07/2025 15:17
I am
1
Eurocyon 01/07/2025 16:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GADp0nuXI88
Farhan Ahmed Zia
Refuting 9 Reasons Why Islam is False @Ethrii
Мико⚜🐾 01/07/2025 16:49
https://youtu.be/oTXzjQ8Qy-0
Anandaapologetics
Nicene creed explained for beginners 1
Мико⚜🐾
https://youtu.be/oTXzjQ8Qy-0
Мико⚜🐾 01/07/2025 16:50
https://youtu.be/n0DIHu41ApI
Anandaapologetics
Nicene creed basic explanation part 2!!
Мико⚜🐾 01/07/2025 17:54
1
Eurocyon
He's been at it for 3 days striaght
Ivory 01/07/2025 20:06
What faith was he even
Ivory
What faith was he even
Eurocyon 01/07/2025 20:14
hellenic
Ivory 01/07/2025 20:15
Like greek?
20:15
Is it Greek paganism or Greek catholicism
Ivory
Is it Greek paganism or Greek catholicism
Eurocyon 01/07/2025 20:21
Hellenism
20:21
Greek paganism
Ivory 01/07/2025 20:22
O
20:22
Lol idk y he so pressed
20:22
In my experience it takes a lot to really offend a pagan
20:23
What did u do lmao
Ivory
In my experience it takes a lot to really offend a pagan
Eurocyon 01/07/2025 20:23
I said there was one god
Ivory 01/07/2025 20:23
Lol
20:24
I feel like he may have had some other underlying issues
20:24
I had a friend who pissed off someone who was off their meds and they acted like this
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/08/2025 19:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwyAX69xG1Q&t=0s
PowerfulJRE
Joe Rogan Experience #2252 - Wesley Huff
19:46
Joe has a true Christian scholar on.
19:49
Ngl this man is inspiring me to become as Biblically literate as I possibly can.
1
Extra-sensory PURRception 01/08/2025 20:39
@Мико⚜🐾 When do you think you'll become a priest?
Мико⚜🐾 01/08/2025 20:53
A full on priest? I have quite some time before I could become a priest. (edited)
Extra-sensory PURRception
@Мико⚜🐾 When do you think you'll become a priest?
Мико⚜🐾 01/08/2025 20:55
However, I could definitely become a deacon within a few years.
20:55
If all went well
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Ngl this man is inspiring me to become as Biblically literate as I possibly can.
Мико⚜🐾 01/08/2025 21:03
to say he embarassed billy carson was an understatement
21:03
absolute career finisher
Мико⚜🐾
to say he embarassed billy carson was an understatement
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/08/2025 21:08
No wonder he didn't want the debate released
21:08
I'll have to check it out sometime
21:15
1% of Ancient Egypt has been discovered!?
21:15
That's crazy.
21:15
That also completely shuts down my one Atheist friends argument of "oh but where is the archeological evidence"
21:16
"Did Ancient Egypt happen?" I presume he would say yes. "How do you know?" I presume he'll say archeology. "Well only 1% of ancient Egypt has ever been excavated so how can we be so sure it ever happened?"
ungen 01/08/2025 21:43
Does anyone have that one image of some furry on twitter asking "people that don't watch porn, what do you think of all the time?"
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/08/2025 21:43
What
21:44
Uhh well I think about my life, my future, my plans, my goals, my God and my hobbies...
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ungen 01/08/2025 21:44
Good answer, but I was looking for that image to show it to someone.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwyAX69xG1Q&t=0s
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/08/2025 21:48
Extremely interesting interview
Мико⚜🐾 01/09/2025 05:35
https://www.youtube.com/live/9LVpS-Z8TEs
Jeem
Wahhabism and the West | المملكة العربية السعودية
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/09/2025 13:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hahp_ktkc7w
Wise Disciple
Wes Huff SLAYS Billy Carson with BRILLIANT Cross Exam! | Debate Tea...
13:07
I watched the full interview
13:08
I guess you could say Billy was
13:08
Crucified
1
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/09/2025 13:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zcaQlBbk6s
Wes Huff
Christmas isn't pagan and here's why
1
13:56
I think this is my new fav Christian guy.
Мико⚜🐾 01/09/2025 14:02
"And there are those who have determined not only the year of our Lord's birth, but also the day; and they say that it took place in the twenty-eighth year of Augustus, and in the twenty-fifth day of Pachon. And the followers of Basilides hold the day of his baptism as a festival, spending the night before in readings. And they say that it was the fifteenth year of Tiberius Caesar, the fifteenth day of the month Tybi; and some that it was the eleventh of the same month. And treating of his passion, with very great accuracy, some say that it took place in the sixteenth year of Tiberius, on the twenty-fifth of Phamenoth; and others the twenty-fifth of Pharmuthi and others say that on the ninetheeth of Pharmuthi the Saviour suffered. Further, others say that he was born on the twenty-fourth or twenty-fifth of Pharmuthi."
`Clement of Alexandria, "Stomata", Book I (released 198 AD), Ch. XXI, found in the Ante-Nicene Fathers collection, Vol. 2, pg. 333.`
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/09/2025 17:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRUzQCYDz5w
JRE Clips
Wesley Huff Gives Historical Take on The Death and Resurrection of ...
Мико⚜🐾 01/09/2025 17:21
No man knows how bad he is till he has tried very hard to be good. A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is. After all, you find out the strength of the German army by fighting against it, not by giving in. You find out the strength of a wind by trying to walk against it, not by lying down. A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness- they have lived a sheltered life by always giving in. We never find out the strength of the evil impulse inside us until we try to fight it: and Christ, because He was the only man who never yielded to temptation, is also the only man who knows to the full what temptation means- the only complete realist.
`C.S. Lewis, On Temptation`
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/09/2025 19:39
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOT3ZgnR-tQ
JRE Clips
Mel Gibson on Resistance to The Passion of the Christ, the Catholic...
19:39
Gibson is so interesting to listen to
ungen
Does anyone have that one image of some furry on twitter asking "people that don't watch porn, what do you think of all the time?"
ungen 01/10/2025 01:29
Was about to go fucking insane. Finally found it.
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ungen
Was about to go fucking insane. Finally found it.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/10/2025 10:20
"If you're a normal person what normal things to do you think about? My porn addicted brain cannot comprehend the fact that people don't think about porn all day."
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/10/2025 11:51
@Мико⚜🐾 what do you make of the shroud of turin
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 what do you make of the shroud of turin
Мико⚜🐾 01/10/2025 12:16
authentic relic
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/10/2025 12:17
That's what I am thinking too.
Мико⚜🐾 01/10/2025 12:19
https://youtu.be/YT1R2kDPHFA
Dr. John Campbell
Shroud studies
Мико⚜🐾 01/10/2025 15:16
“It is permissible for him to kill an apostate and eat him, and to also kill a ḥarbī – even if it is a child or a woman – and eat them, because they are not protected. However, it is forbidden to kill the ḥarbī child and the ḥarbī woman if there is no necessity, not because of their sanctity, but because of the right over the ghānīmīn (those who participate in the battle). It is also permissible for him to kill an adulterer who has been married, a combatant (muḥārib), someone who abandons prayer, and the one on whom retribution (qiṣāṣ) must be applied, even if the imām has not authorized the killing, because their killing is required."
`Al-Khatib al-Shirbini, Al-Iqna' fi Hall Alfadh Abi Shuja' Volume 2 p. 562 (Shafi'i Fiqh)` https://archive.org/details/waq77829/02_77830/page/n561/mode/2up
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Мико⚜🐾 01/10/2025 15:28
١٤٠ – حدثنا سعيد، قال: نا إسماعيل بن إبراهيم، عن أيوب، عن نافع ، عن ابن عمر ، قال: لا يقولن أحدكم: أخذت القرآن كله، وما يدريه ما كله، قد ذهب منه قرآن كثير،ولكن يقول: أخذنا ما ظهر منه.
140 – Said reported to us: Ismail ibn Ibrahim reported from Ayyub from Nafi from ibn Umar who said: “Let none of you say: ‘I have learned the entire Quran’, for no one knows what the entire Quran is, since much of it has been lost. Rather, let him say: ‘We have learned what was revealed.’”
Transmission (Isnad): Authentic. Sunan Said Ibn Mansur (1/432-33)
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ungen
Was about to go fucking insane. Finally found it.
Fantastic Mr. Fob 01/10/2025 16:05
Lol. That's obviously tongue in cheek, but it hits close to home.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/10/2025 17:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaRj1B05jyg
Chris Williamson
Why Atheists Are Turning To Christianity - Alex O'Connor
1
VikingTiger6 01/11/2025 01:36
https://iranpoliticsclub.net/library/english-library/AbdullahIbnAbiSarh-MuhammadBiography.pdf euro would freak out if he saw i posted this
01:36
basically its a comic on muhammads early life
Мико⚜🐾 01/13/2025 15:41
https://youtu.be/deNByuMRZ4o
Orthodox Wisdom
They Have Done an Insult to Nature Itself - St. John Chrysostom on ...
Ivory 01/14/2025 02:10
Mars hides behind the moon tounight
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Ivory
Mars hides behind the moon tounight
Мико⚜🐾 01/14/2025 03:11
what impact will that have on lebrons legacy
Ivory 01/14/2025 03:38
?
Ivory
?
Plazma Silvara 01/14/2025 03:40
LeBron "ain't no party like a diddy party" James
Ivory 01/14/2025 04:00
I don't understand
Ivory
?
Мико⚜🐾 01/14/2025 04:45
it was a joke but you missed it, dont worry about it
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 01/14/2025 20:48
"hmm, there are multiple playlists linked, but I will only focus on the embed totally ignoring every other one" and also in those there's a 5 hour one
20:52
also here are the playlist names
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 01/14/2025 21:06
watching all of those would probably take around 12 hours but I have a response ready for most counter arguments: "this has been covered in one of the playlists"
Мико⚜🐾 01/15/2025 17:30
17:36
'The Lord sometimes allows people who are devoted to Him to fall into such dreadful vices; and this is in order to prevent them from falling into a still greater sin–pride. Your temptation will pass and you will spend the remaining days of your life in humility. Only do not forget your sin.' '...You cannot be too gentle, too kind. Shun even to appear harsh in your treatment of each other. Joy, radiant joy, streams from the face of him who gives and kindles joy in the heart of him who receives. All condemnation is from the devil. Never condemn each other. We condemn others only because we shun knowing ourselves. When we gaze at our own failings, we see such a swamp that nothing in another can equal it. That is why we turn away, and make much of the faults of others. Instead of condemning others, strive to reach inner peace. Keep silent, refrain from judgment. This will raise you above the deadly arrows of slander, insult, and outrage and will shield your glowing hearts against all evil.'
`St. Seraphim of Sarov`
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/15/2025 19:05
Oooh
19:05
I don't know why I never considered this.
19:06
Perhaps the LA fires was God's wrath.
19:06
We all know how much of a degenerate shithole LA is.
VikingTiger6 01/16/2025 04:26
We should thank him for how mercifull he was, we all know LA probably deserves worse if you compare it to other times he showed his wrath
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Мико⚜🐾 01/16/2025 04:35
VikingTiger6
We should thank him for how mercifull he was, we all know LA probably deserves worse if you compare it to other times he showed his wrath
Мико⚜🐾 01/16/2025 04:36
We deserve worse than Sodom to be frank
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/16/2025 09:48
@Мико⚜🐾 opinions on the different Christian denoms?
serpente482 01/16/2025 10:39
All bad except mine
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 opinions on the different Christian denoms?
Мико⚜🐾 01/16/2025 10:47
My opinion on Christians amongst the different denominations? Well, as Russian Orthodox myself, I would say of course that my Church is the Church founded by Christ within the New Testament for the salvation of mankind, and that it alone is the Body, the Ark of salvation, and that in only it alone can I be sure there is salvific grace within its sacraments, without which you are liable to, not guaranteed to face eternal condemnation. When Christ promises to send the Holy Spirit among the faithful (John 14:26) to lead us into all truth, and when Paul writes in Ephesians (Eph 4:4-8) that there is "1 faith, 1 Lord, and 1 baptism", I take that in a literal way as the fathers did, there cannot be two correct concepts of God opposed to each other, two irreconcilable faiths and confessions that are simultaneously guided by the Holy Spirit's inspiration. Only one can be true. Those who knowingly schism from the 1 faith and cause others to follow them after correction are said of them that they cannot inherit the Kingdom (Gal 5:19-21). However, it is not my place or the place of anyone within the Church to define the state infallibly of those outside of the Body. For if God wills to, in His infinite mercy for Mankind, include those in His plan for salvation those outside of the Body in this life, that is up to Him, not to me. We are encouraged to pray as hard as for those who repose outside of the Church, for those who were not baptised, as those who died within it, and we are told by the Saints to hope and beseech for such people's salvation regardless, including by say, Augustine. But that would ultimately be outside of His modus operandi, you could say. However, I would like to also say that to deny any truth or any grasp of Christ outside of the Orthodox Church, to treat Protestants and especially the Oriental Orthodox and Roman Catholics like pagans, is utterly absurd and not really the historical way we have addressed these groups, even the zealots. They possess some to almost all of the Truth of Christ, but it is only realized in its fullness inside of His Body.
BibleBot BOT 01/16/2025 10:47
John 14:26 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<26> But the Paraclete, the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you.
10:47
Ephesians 4:4-8 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<4> One body and one Spirit; as you are called in one hope of your calling. <5> One Lord, one faith, one baptism. <6> One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in us all. <7> But to every one of us is given grace, according to the measure of the giving of Christ. <8> Wherefore he saith: Ascending on high, he led captivity captive; he gave gifts to men.
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Galatians 5:19-21 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<19> Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are fornication, uncleanness, immodesty, luxury, <20> Idolatry, witchcrafts, enmities, contentions, emulations, wraths, quarrels, dissensions, sects, <21> Envies, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like. Of the which I foretell you, as I have foretold to you, that they who do such things shall not obtain the kingdom of God.
Мико⚜🐾 01/16/2025 10:48
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Perhaps the LA fires was God's wrath.
Мико⚜🐾 01/16/2025 10:53
It's God-allowed terror tbf, the conditions for the LA fire were manufactured
VikingTiger6 01/16/2025 20:48
https://fixupx.com/MalcangiSarah/status/1838016598893887552
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Мико⚜🐾 01/17/2025 04:36
Мико⚜🐾
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Мико⚜🐾 01/17/2025 04:37
Ss. Dumitru Stăniloae and Arsenie Boca (middle, right)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/18/2025 10:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0OXweiIQLM
Brian Holdsworth
If Demons Leave You Alone, You Have a Problem
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𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 01/18/2025 10:56
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1mr9ZTZb3TViAqtowpvZy5PZpn-MoSK_&si=nqfkTPSG6a52BlEk
The Quantum God
11:02
1
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/18/2025 12:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt7ucjKvGkk
PatristicNectarFilms
Why Life is So Brutal
1
Мико⚜🐾 01/19/2025 05:39
https://youtu.be/LUBLb6u6I4o
Orthodox Wisdom
True Repentance Requires Four Things - St. Nikodemos the Hagiorite
05:40
https://youtu.be/Lbg4TSP44yU
Signal Marichka
Hildegard von Bingen - Ave generosa
Мико⚜🐾 01/19/2025 11:36
Мико⚜🐾 01/19/2025 12:15
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/19/2025 17:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrBExy_ExcY
I,Hypocrite
The Truth Is Universal
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/21/2025 10:56
1 Corinthians 10:13
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1 Corinthians 10:13 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<13> No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your strength, but with the temptation will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/22/2025 18:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1DSJh0P2JQ
CrowderBits
Explained: Why The National Cathedral Sermon Was Satanism
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Мико⚜🐾 01/24/2025 13:39
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 01/24/2025 13:39
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/25/2025 10:54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YXtKBOg44w
Mike Stories
He Just Accidentally Destroyed His Career
1
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/26/2025 19:02
job 10:21-22
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Job 10:21-22 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<21> before I go whence I shall not return, to the land of gloom and deep darkness, <22> the land of gloom and chaos, where light is as darkness."
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/26/2025 19:29
Ezekiel 28:1-19
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Ezekiel 28:1-19 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Proclamation against the King of Tyre / Lamentation over the King of Tyre
<1> The word of the Lord came to me: <2> "Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre, Thus says the Lord God: "Because your heart is proud, and you have said, 'I am a god, I sit in the seat of the gods, in the heart of the seas,' yet you are but a man, and no god, though you consider yourself as wise as a god— <3> you are indeed wiser than Daniel; no secret is hidden from you; <4> by your wisdom and your understanding you have gotten wealth for yourself, and have gathered gold and silver into your treasuries; <5> by your great wisdom in trade you have increased your wealth, and your heart has become proud in your wealth— <6> therefore thus says the Lord God: "Because you consider yourself as wise as a god, <7> therefore, behold, I will bring strangers upon you, the most terrible of the nations; and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of your wisdom and defile your splendor. <8> They shall thrust you down into the Pit, and you shall die the death of the slain in the heart of the seas. <9> Will you still say, 'I am a god,' in the presence of those who slay you, though you are but a man, and no god, in the hands of those who wound you? <10> You shall die the death of the uncircumcised by the hand of foreigners; for I have spoken, says the Lord God." <11> Moreover the word of the Lord came to me: <12> "Son of man, raise a lamentation over the king of Tyre, and say to him, Thus says the Lord God: "You were the signet of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. <13> You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering, carnelian, topaz, and jasper, chrysolite, beryl, and onyx, sapphire, carbuncle, and emerald; and wrought in gold were your settings and your engravings. On the day that you were created they were prepared. <14> With an anointed guardian cherub I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God; in the midst of the stones of fire you walked. <15> You were blameless in your ways from the day you were crea...
Мико⚜🐾 01/26/2025 19:29
Ezekiel 28:15-29 rsv
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Ezekiel 28:15-26 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Proclamation against Sidon / Future Blessing for Israel
<15> You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created, till iniquity was found in you. <16> In the abundance of your trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned; so I cast you as a profane thing from the mountain of God, and the guardian cherub drove you out from the midst of the stones of fire. <17> Your heart was proud because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor. I cast you to the ground; I exposed you before kings, to feast their eyes on you. <18> By the multitude of your iniquities, in the unrighteousness of your trade you profaned your sanctuaries; so I brought forth fire from the midst of you; it consumed you, and I turned you to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all who saw you. <19> All who know you among the peoples are appalled at you; you have come to a dreadful end and shall be no more for ever." <20> The word of the Lord came to me: <21> "Son of man, set your face toward Sidon, and prophesy against her <22> and say, Thus says the Lord God: "Behold, I am against you, O Sidon, and I will manifest my glory in the midst of you. And they shall know that I am the Lord when I execute judgments in her, and manifest my holiness in her; <23> for I will send pestilence into her, and blood into her streets; and the slain shall fall in the midst of her, by the sword that is against her on every side. Then they will know that I am the Lord. <24> "And for the house of Israel there shall be no more a brier to prick or a thorn to hurt them among all their neighbors who have treated them with contempt. Then they will know that I am the Lord God. <25> "Thus says the Lord God: When I gather the house of Israel from the peoples among whom they are scattered, and manifest my holiness in them in the sight of the nations, then they shall dwell in their own land which I gave to my servant Jacob. <26> And they shall dwell securely in it, and they shall build houses and plant vineyards. They shall dwell securely, whe...
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/27/2025 12:35
Psalm 41:9
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Psalm 41:9 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<9> Even my bosom friend in whom I trusted, who ate of my bread, has lifted his heel against me.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/27/2025 19:46
Rev 20:10
BibleBot BOT 01/27/2025 19:46
Revelation 20:10 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<10> and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulphur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/28/2025 00:18
Isaiah 14:12
BibleBot BOT 01/28/2025 00:18
Isaiah 14:12 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<12> "How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low!
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/28/2025 00:19
Isaiah 14:12-13
BibleBot BOT 01/28/2025 00:19
Isaiah 14:12-13 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<12> "How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! <13> You said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far north;
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/28/2025 00:19
Wait what's the full verse
00:19
Isaiah 14:12-15
BibleBot BOT 01/28/2025 00:19
Isaiah 14:12-15 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<12> "How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! <13> You said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far north; <14> I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will make myself like the Most High.' <15> But you are brought down to Sheol, to the depths of the Pit.
Мико⚜🐾 01/28/2025 02:44
https://youtu.be/Rv2L8mIalVQ
St. Symeon Orthodox Church
Hierarchical Liturgy Little Entrance and Eis Polla Trio, Georgian C...
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/28/2025 11:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKvxUdjFnl8
Mike Signorelli
Why they left the Witchcraft and LGBT+ Communities
11:17
Okay so, neat video
11:17
But that woman at the start of the video
11:17
Her accent is like fucking butter, I love it.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Her accent is like fucking butter, I love it.
VixenAurelian 01/28/2025 22:59
You fuck butter?
22:59
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/29/2025 15:13
Psalm 94:23
BibleBot BOT 01/29/2025 15:13
Psalm 94:23 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<23> He will bring back on them their iniquity and wipe them out for their wickedness; the Lord our God will wipe them out.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/29/2025 15:16
1 cor 10:13
BibleBot BOT 01/29/2025 15:16
1 Corinthians 10:13 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<13> No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your strength, but with the temptation will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/29/2025 16:20
Psalm 41:9
BibleBot BOT 01/29/2025 16:20
Psalm 41:9 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<9> Even my bosom friend in whom I trusted, who ate of my bread, has lifted his heel against me.
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Мико⚜🐾 01/29/2025 16:29
Amein
16:29
1 corinthians 10:23
BibleBot BOT 01/29/2025 16:29
1 Corinthians 10:23 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<23> All things are lawful for me, but all things do not edify.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/29/2025 19:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNNmgw5f784
Wise Disciple
The Most Controversial Take On Romans 1 You Will Ever Hear
19:45
I feel like atheists and people who simply rejected God will have it so much easier than those who willingly teach falsehoods about the Bible while proclaiming to be Christian
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/29/2025 20:16
Romans 12:9
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Romans 12:9 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Marks of the True Christian
<9> Let love be genuine; hate what is evil, hold fast to what is good;
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I feel like atheists and people who simply rejected God will have it so much easier than those who willingly teach falsehoods about the Bible while proclaiming to be Christian
Мико⚜🐾 01/29/2025 22:33
Luke 12:47-50
BibleBot BOT 01/29/2025 22:33
Luke 12:47-50 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<47> And that servant who knew the will of his lord, and prepared not himself, and did not according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. <48> But he that knew not, and did things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. And unto whomsoever much is given, of him much shall be required: and to whom they have committed much, of him they will demand the more. <49> I am come to cast fire on the earth; and what will I, but that it be kindled? <50> And I have a baptism wherewith I am to be baptized: and how am I straitened until it be accomplished?
Мико⚜🐾 01/29/2025 22:34
wisdom 13:1-10 elxx
BibleBot BOT 01/29/2025 22:34
Wisdom 13:1-10 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<1> Surely vain are all men by nature, who are ignorant of God, And could not out of the good things that are seen know him that is: Neither by considering the works did they acknowledge the workmaster; <2> But deemed either fire, or wind, or the swift air, Or the circle of the stars, or the violent water, Or the lights of heaven, to be the gods which govern the world. <3> With whose beauty if they being delighted took them to be gods; Let them know how much better the Lord of them is: For the first author of beauty hath created them. <4> But if they were astonished at their power and virtue, Let them understand by them, how much mightier he is that made them. <5> For by the greatness and beauty of the creatures Proportionably the maker of them is seen. <6> But yet for this they are the less to be blamed: For they peradventure err, Seeking God, and desirous to find him. <7> For being conversant in his works they search him diligently, And believe their sight: because the things are beautiful that are seen. <8> Howbeit neither are they to be pardoned. <9> For if they were able to know so much, That they could aim at the world; How did they not sooner find out the Lord thereof? <10> But miserable are they, and in dead things is their hope, Who called them gods, which are the works of men's hands, Gold and silver, to show art in, And resemblances of beasts, Or a stone good for nothing, the work of an ancient hand.
Мико⚜🐾 01/29/2025 22:35
theres a degree to which the ignorant are pardoned, although they are not saved by their ignorance
22:35
but those who fall away from and reject the faith suffer a terrible fate
Мико⚜🐾
but those who fall away from and reject the faith suffer a terrible fate
Мико⚜🐾 01/29/2025 22:35
Hebrews 6:4-7
BibleBot BOT 01/29/2025 22:35
Hebrews 6:4-7 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<4> For it is impossible for those who were once illuminated, have tasted also the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, <5> Have moreover tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, <6> And are fallen away: to be renewed again to penance, crucifying again to themselves the Son of God, and making him a mockery. <7> For the earth that drinketh in the rain which cometh often upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is tilled, receiveth blessing from God.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/31/2025 03:44
Isaiah 44:22
BibleBot BOT 01/31/2025 03:44
Isaiah 44:22 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<22> I have swept away your transgressions like a cloud, and your sins like mist; return to me, for I have redeemed you.
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Мико⚜🐾 01/31/2025 08:43
VikingTiger6 01/31/2025 09:25
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Argument_Against_Abolishing_Christianity just found out the dude who wrote gullivers travels also defended christianity
An Argument Against Abolishing Christianity
An Argument Against Abolishing Christianity is a satirical essay by Jonathan Swift defending Christianity, and in particular, Anglicanism, against contemporary assaults by its various opponents, including freethinkers, deists, Antitrinitarians, atheists, Socinians, and other so-called "Dissenters." The essay was written in 1708 and, as was comm...
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VikingTiger6
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Argument_Against_Abolishing_Christianity just found out the dude who wrote gullivers travels also defended christianity
serpente482 01/31/2025 09:29
Can you send a link to that thing, it has to be a fun read
09:30
I didnt know England had already so much non believers back in the 18th century
serpente482
I didnt know England had already so much non believers back in the 18th century
VikingTiger6 01/31/2025 09:31
i think the difference between England and other countries at that time is you were allowed to say you were an atheist whereas other places you had to keep that a secret
serpente482
Can you send a link to that thing, it has to be a fun read
VikingTiger6 01/31/2025 09:31
i have no idea where i would find it
09:32
https://www.samizdat.qc.ca/arts/lit/PDFs/Abolishing_Christianity_JS.pdf
09:32
i found a link
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VikingTiger6
i think the difference between England and other countries at that time is you were allowed to say you were an atheist whereas other places you had to keep that a secret
serpente482 01/31/2025 09:32
And the anglican Church not being the best of examples at keeping believers for its foundation by a fat man wanting divorce
serpente482
And the anglican Church not being the best of examples at keeping believers for its foundation by a fat man wanting divorce
VikingTiger6 01/31/2025 09:33
the Anglican church makes many blunders and still does today, thats what happens when you intertwine church and state
VikingTiger6
the Anglican church makes many blunders and still does today, thats what happens when you intertwine church and state
serpente482 01/31/2025 09:37
I love that his arguments were proven true
VikingTiger6 01/31/2025 09:38
this book could be read today as a counter argument to secularism
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/01/2025 09:32
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/01/2025 12:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRmOeItyTVs
Nicholas Bowling
Street Preacher Confronts Hebrew Israelites in Times Square
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/01/2025 12:54
Galatians 3:28
BibleBot BOT 02/01/2025 12:54
Galatians 3:28 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<28> There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRmOeItyTVs
Мико⚜🐾 02/02/2025 04:43
ohh these retards
04:44
imagine believing God only saves one ethnos, great blasphemers of His name
04:49
pointing out to them Paul's arguments in Romans 2, the stories of Ruth, Jethro and Rahab etc. kind of refutes them pretty easily
Мико⚜🐾
pointing out to them Paul's arguments in Romans 2, the stories of Ruth, Jethro and Rahab etc. kind of refutes them pretty easily
Мико⚜🐾 02/02/2025 04:50
Melchizedek, a non-Jew (or not Sub-saharan African from their POV)
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He is greater than Righteous Abraham and all his descendants, Paul states this in Hebrews 7.
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How can a non-Jew, someone who is not supposedly African, be greater than the entire nation of Israel? It makes their whole view absurd
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Because then they either have to concede that they were wrong, or they have to admit that God predestines people to Heaven purely because of accidental qualities He Himself created (race, ethnicity), and not out of any faith, or works of our own for His sake which proceed from such faith. A disgusting god no one should worship, pay honour or venerate (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Because then they either have to concede that they were wrong, or they have to admit that God predestines people to Heaven purely because of accidental qualities He Himself created (race, ethnicity), and not out of any faith, or works of our own for His sake which proceed from such faith. A disgusting god no one should worship, pay honour or venerate (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 02/02/2025 04:54
they can push a wacky interpretation of who Melchizedek is but they cant justify it with theory of knowledge
Мико⚜🐾
they can push a wacky interpretation of who Melchizedek is but they cant justify it with theory of knowledge
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/02/2025 06:55
Genesis completely throws out their logic. If we were made in the likeness of God then why did he randomly decide to exclude all the other races in redemption
Мико⚜🐾
pointing out to them Paul's arguments in Romans 2, the stories of Ruth, Jethro and Rahab etc. kind of refutes them pretty easily
Мико⚜🐾 02/02/2025 07:52
Romans 2:25-29
BibleBot BOT 02/02/2025 07:52
Romans 2:25-29 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<25> Circumcision profiteth indeed, if thou keep the law; but if thou be a transgressor of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. <26> If, then, the uncircumcised keep the justices of the law, shall not this uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? <27> And shall not that which by nature is uncircumcision, if it fulfill the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision art a transgressor of the law? <28> For it is not he is a Jew, who is so outwardly; nor is that circumcision which is outwardly in the flesh: <29> But he is a Jew, that is one inwardly; and the circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Genesis completely throws out their logic. If we were made in the likeness of God then why did he randomly decide to exclude all the other races in redemption
Мико⚜🐾 02/02/2025 07:52
their "god" is wicked and disgusting
07:53
My God loves all and wills the salvation of all. Oh, if only we willed that for us!
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1 timothy 2:3-4
BibleBot BOT 02/02/2025 07:54
1 Timothy 2:3-4 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<3> For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour, <4> Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Мико⚜🐾
their "god" is wicked and disgusting
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/02/2025 08:15
DAS RIIIIIITE
Мико⚜🐾 02/02/2025 08:20
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/02/2025 13:16
Choosing a work day to fast was not my smartest decision
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I feel very weak lol
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/04/2025 11:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAM7fjGGKBA
Wise Disciple
The TRUTH About 1 Atheist vs. 20 Christians (with Than Christopoulos)
Zoraxe 02/05/2025 19:57
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Мико⚜🐾 02/06/2025 01:32
https://youtu.be/_yRr4VElLns beautiful chant i found while watching a Western Rite Orthodox liturgy (edited)
Oliver Thomas
Voces8 - Second Eve
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAM7fjGGKBA
Мико⚜🐾 02/06/2025 01:33
this was poor icl, was watching this with friends
Мико⚜🐾
this was poor icl, was watching this with friends
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/06/2025 12:34
The format doesn't exactly enable proper discussion
Arcane BOT 02/06/2025 12:34
@Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian has reached level 68. GG!
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
The format doesn't exactly enable proper discussion
Мико⚜🐾 02/06/2025 12:41
thats a fair point tbh
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAM7fjGGKBA
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/06/2025 12:43
But this video breakdown also made me realise how O' Connor very subtly but slyly reframes the question when he's cornered
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/08/2025 09:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9KxSjclefo
Wise Disciple
Can anyone ANSWER Dennis Prager's question?! | Pastor Reacts
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/08/2025 13:41
@Мико⚜🐾 do you have all the key Surah's and other Quoran texts which openly call to fight against and kill non-believers?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 do you have all the key Surah's and other Quoran texts which openly call to fight against and kill non-believers?
Мико⚜🐾 02/08/2025 13:44
Surah 9:29-32
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/08/2025 14:05
Oh man
14:06
God has a funny sense of humour
14:06
I turned to a random passage this morning to see what God wanted to share today.
14:06
Then I get into an argument with a "tolerant leftist"
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14:07
Then God is like "remember that passage you read this morning?"
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You're a funny man, God. And this is why I follow you, among other reasons.
Мико⚜🐾
Surah 9:29-32
Мико⚜🐾 02/09/2025 10:01
something i forgot to touch on is the tradition of abrogation of previous verses and revelation within Islam
10:01
So a Muslim may quote out of context and in hopeful ignorance of that fact to trick people
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10:02
also, keep in mind surahs and sections of that surah also have a tradition behind then as to when it was revealed
10:02
and why it was revealed
10:02
Surah 9 is generally thought of as the last surah
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/09/2025 16:29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntdTWREYFJk
Testify
A TOP TIER Argument For God's Existence
16:31
Random bit of wisdom in the YouTube comments that I never considered.
16:31
If the resurrection was a lie then the Pharisees would've found Jesus' body to disprove the claims to the disciples. After all, they loathed Christ.
Мико⚜🐾
something i forgot to touch on is the tradition of abrogation of previous verses and revelation within Islam
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/09/2025 19:20
Doesn't Muhammad also explicitly state that he will fight Christians, Jews and non-muslims until there are only Muslims? It's not a direct call for action but if he is so beloved by Muslims, they would want to follow in his footsteps and do the same, no?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Doesn't Muhammad also explicitly state that he will fight Christians, Jews and non-muslims until there are only Muslims? It's not a direct call for action but if he is so beloved by Muslims, they would want to follow in his footsteps and do the same, no?
Мико⚜🐾 02/10/2025 04:38
Yes, theres no Imam Madhi or Isa if there is not a global Caliphate
04:39
Across the world
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/11/2025 21:11
Matthew 23:37
BibleBot BOT 02/11/2025 21:11
Matthew 23:37 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
The Lament over Jerusalem
<37> "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to you! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not!
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/12/2025 19:41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OGTKbkQgJY
Wise Disciple
"He Gets Us" Did It AGAIN! | Pastor Reacts
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/13/2025 18:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4al60c1-iE0
Testify
The Quran Is Either Unclear or Bad—You Decide
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4al60c1-iE0
Мико⚜🐾 02/13/2025 20:23
the Qur'an physically cannot be read or understood without convoluted Islamic tradition on what verses are 'abrogated', what each verse means and what context it was revealed in etc.
20:23
given that the surahs can jump from one topic immediately to another
Мико⚜🐾
the Qur'an physically cannot be read or understood without convoluted Islamic tradition on what verses are 'abrogated', what each verse means and what context it was revealed in etc.
Мико⚜🐾 02/13/2025 20:25
the Bible shouldn't be read in vacuum by itself either, since it is possible to go away with a misinterpretation. but only because it is possible, not inevitable. Also, it doesnt claim to be a clear book thats been sitting on preserved tablets since the world was created in Heaven (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/13/2025 23:30
Job 5:2
BibleBot BOT 02/13/2025 23:30
Job 5:2 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<2> Surely vexation kills the fool, and jealousy slays the simple.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/14/2025 10:41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCk-pznUJbU
Faith Talks
Christian Psychologist EXPOSES The REAL Cause Of Same Sex Attraction
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/14/2025 10:57
@Мико⚜🐾 The book of Job is my study for the month.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 The book of Job is my study for the month.
Мико⚜🐾 02/14/2025 12:30
good stuff. ive been looking at Romans and Ephesians
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCk-pznUJbU
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/14/2025 13:38
@serpente482 You might get some extra useful insight outta this one.
Мико⚜🐾
good stuff. ive been looking at Romans and Ephesians
Мико⚜🐾 02/14/2025 13:42
i recommend pope st. gregory i's commentary on job
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13:42
really good
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@serpente482 You might get some extra useful insight outta this one.
serpente482 02/14/2025 13:46
might do, i dont know much about homos psychology, just about internet fags and attention seeking fags which are a modern plague unlike actual homosexuals which are a problem that can be argued that has existed forever
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/14/2025 13:48
Well any male attraction I once had is completely gone since returning to Christ and focusing on scripture. If it is indeed a switch that can be flipped in the brain, then I'm starting to doubt it being "natural" more and more. Especially since there is absolutely a cultish element to, at least, the LGBTQ/Activist side.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@serpente482 You might get some extra useful insight outta this one.
serpente482 02/14/2025 14:55
first ten minutes and he is already defending the theory i came up with of why my little cousin became gay and how sexuality is made up. This guy is cool
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serpente482 02/14/2025 15:38
finished it
15:38
good video
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/14/2025 19:54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J982EHqSKOg
StevenCrowder
Truth in Love: Homosexuality in the Church
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/14/2025 20:07
Proverbs 31:10-11
BibleBot BOT 02/14/2025 20:07
Proverbs 31:10-11 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Ode to a Capable Wife
<10> A good wife who can find? She is far more precious than jewels. <11> The heart of her husband trusts in her, and he will have no lack of gain.
Мико⚜🐾 02/15/2025 00:08
https://youtu.be/MrTt5oY6hbc
The Altar of Reason
Ethics, Incarnation & Christianity – Podcast ft. @SIIIG1
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/15/2025 20:14
Matthew 18:6
BibleBot BOT 02/15/2025 20:14
Matthew 18:6 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<6> but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened round his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/15/2025 20:18
@Мико⚜🐾 Think I've found a new way of connecting to God.
20:18
It's getting locked tf in with my art. When I really get into the zone, as I did today, I can practically feel God sitting with me as we discuss back n forth.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
It's getting locked tf in with my art. When I really get into the zone, as I did today, I can practically feel God sitting with me as we discuss back n forth.
Мико⚜🐾 02/15/2025 20:51
I can relate to a degree, back when I used to do music tech in college I felt the same way. Speaking of that, I should really get back into it
20:52
I kind of put it to the side when I started reading phil and the Church Fathers. but I never had to give it up, yet i kind of did
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/17/2025 19:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UXr791jBD4
Wendigoon
The Bible Lore Iceberg
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19:07
Babes wake up, new Wendigoon Bible video
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VikingTiger6 02/17/2025 19:18
oh boy more fuel for the reddit "biblically accurate" meme
Мико⚜🐾 02/19/2025 07:24
revelation 12:1-5
BibleBot BOT 02/19/2025 07:24
Revelation 12:1-5 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<1> And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars: <2> And being with child, she cried travailing in birth, and was in pain to be delivered. <3> And there was seen another sign in heaven: and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads, and ten horns: and on his head seven diadems: <4> And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to be delivered; that, when she should be delivered, he might devour her son. <5> And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with an iron rod: and her son was taken up to God, and to his throne.
Мико⚜🐾 02/19/2025 19:42
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/20/2025 19:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdJnUDVAwkI
Big Jon Steel
Atheist Goes Berserk Over ‘Proof’—But Can’t Define Proof! ‍♂️
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I love this guy he's such a strong Christian Apologist.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/22/2025 09:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1M4WemqJKg
Pax Tube
How Liberalism Corrupts Christianity
Мико⚜🐾 02/22/2025 10:08
was about to send this haha
Мико⚜🐾
was about to send this haha
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/22/2025 10:12
I'm not alone in my rage which comes from how rampantly society blasphemes our Lord, right?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I'm not alone in my rage which comes from how rampantly society blasphemes our Lord, right?
Мико⚜🐾 02/22/2025 11:01
no, youre not
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/22/2025 13:49
At one point I considered myself to be Liberal.
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Then "classical liberal"
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Now I definitely do not consider myself a liberal.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Now I definitely do not consider myself a liberal.
Мико⚜🐾 02/22/2025 13:55
ultimately i can't affirm the founding presuppositions of liberalism
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/22/2025 13:57
Well liberalism can pretty much be summarized as "let people do what they wanna do so long as no one's getting hurt"
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That's the general philosophy of it.
13:57
I no longer stand by that philosophy.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1M4WemqJKg
NasCar 02/22/2025 15:02
bro... you should... like be vaguely nice to everyone...
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my definition of nice btw
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Zoraxe 02/24/2025 07:41
Some people might legitimately think that's a good mindset.
07:47
Misread his pinned post at first, but I hope he does find his way and stops leaning into the lackluster moral enforcement that led him down whatever road he went down (edited)
Zoraxe 02/24/2025 07:57
In lighter news, my mother gifted me a Bible, so I will now do some more serious studying. What is your recommendation on order of reading? I've read some random sections, but aside from that not being super "efficient", study seems better with peers and deserves clarification by clergy. I forget the hierarchical order at which the Bible should be interpreted, but I want to keep it in mind as I try to learn the meaning behind various passages or try to understand its unified meaning with all the books together
Zoraxe
In lighter news, my mother gifted me a Bible, so I will now do some more serious studying. What is your recommendation on order of reading? I've read some random sections, but aside from that not being super "efficient", study seems better with peers and deserves clarification by clergy. I forget the hierarchical order at which the Bible should be interpreted, but I want to keep it in mind as I try to learn the meaning behind various passages or try to understand its unified meaning with all the books together
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/24/2025 10:41
Matthew is a great place to start imo
Zoraxe
In lighter news, my mother gifted me a Bible, so I will now do some more serious studying. What is your recommendation on order of reading? I've read some random sections, but aside from that not being super "efficient", study seems better with peers and deserves clarification by clergy. I forget the hierarchical order at which the Bible should be interpreted, but I want to keep it in mind as I try to learn the meaning behind various passages or try to understand its unified meaning with all the books together
serpente482 02/24/2025 11:08
Have you read it fully before?
serpente482
Have you read it fully before?
Zoraxe 02/24/2025 19:50
I have not actually. Only whatever bits and pieces have been preached or taught in a weekly religious class as a kid have I heard
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Matthew is a great place to start imo
Zoraxe 02/24/2025 19:50
Good thing I was reading through Matthew last night lol
Zoraxe
I have not actually. Only whatever bits and pieces have been preached or taught in a weekly religious class as a kid have I heard
serpente482 02/24/2025 20:23
i recommend for a first read either just the new testament and if you want to get a glimpse on the old testament, read the books that are more focused on morals than israel history like psalms, and the first books of the old testament until like Salomon which had the most impact on cultural stuff.
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when i read the Bible for the first time i read it from beginning to end and the ot was too dense and took me a lot of time, like a year, because i wanted to get to Jesus but i had to read countless family trees and 30 stories of Israelites forgot about God, God punishes them by letting an evil dictator controll them for decades, then one remembers God and God choses him to liberate Israel and make them remember God
VikingTiger6 02/24/2025 20:27
John is a good place to start
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But all the gospels are good
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Mark was written for gentiles to read so its easier to understand for new Christians
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Genesis is good to read too because it helps you understand alot of stuff in a broader context
Zoraxe 02/24/2025 20:47
Got it. Will take this into consideration
Zoraxe 02/25/2025 10:23
Maybe this has been explained here before, but what part of the the Law as defined in the Old Testament is still applicable after the death and resurrection of Christ? I've seen discussion of such & such law no longer applied as a result of newer covenants overriding the old, but it still seems much of it applies to our existing faith. For example, somebody tried to say cross-dressing being bad wasn't applicable under the new covenant, but that doesn't sound right? So, what's the determination from scripture as it applies to current faith?
Zoraxe
Maybe this has been explained here before, but what part of the the Law as defined in the Old Testament is still applicable after the death and resurrection of Christ? I've seen discussion of such & such law no longer applied as a result of newer covenants overriding the old, but it still seems much of it applies to our existing faith. For example, somebody tried to say cross-dressing being bad wasn't applicable under the new covenant, but that doesn't sound right? So, what's the determination from scripture as it applies to current faith?
serpente482 02/25/2025 10:57
Most i would say, except traditions like not eating some kind of foods. The crossdressing part its still condemned in the new testament, its and has always been inmoral, now i cant say the verse but i am pretty sure Paul talks about it
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Ill try looking for it once i come home
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Мико⚜🐾 02/25/2025 17:43
serpente482 02/25/2025 17:55
Corintians 6:9-11
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Corinthians 6:9-11
17:55
idk how its written in english
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@Zoraxe it was this but idk if the bot doesnt work or idk what the translation is in english
Мико⚜🐾 02/25/2025 18:02
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
BibleBot BOT 02/25/2025 18:02
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<9> Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, <10> Nor the effeminate, nor liers with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor railers, nor extortioners, shall possess the kingdom of God. <11> And such some of you were; but you are washed, but you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the Spirit of our God.
Zoraxe
Maybe this has been explained here before, but what part of the the Law as defined in the Old Testament is still applicable after the death and resurrection of Christ? I've seen discussion of such & such law no longer applied as a result of newer covenants overriding the old, but it still seems much of it applies to our existing faith. For example, somebody tried to say cross-dressing being bad wasn't applicable under the new covenant, but that doesn't sound right? So, what's the determination from scripture as it applies to current faith?
VikingTiger6 02/26/2025 05:50
You gotta make distinctions between whats a sin and what makes you ritually impure
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For example in the old testament if you touch a corpse you're ritually impure and can't go to temple until that's sorted out
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But its obviously not a sin to say bury a loved one yet you're ritually impure
BibleBot BOT 02/26/2025 06:18
Acts 15:22-30 - New King James Version (NKJV)
The Jerusalem Decree / Continuing Ministry in Syria
<22> Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas, namely, Judas who was also named Barsabas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren. <23> They wrote this letter by them: The apostles, the elders, and the brethren, To the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia: Greetings. <24> Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, "You must be circumcised and keep the law"—to whom we gave no such commandment— <25> it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, <26> men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. <27> We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth. <28> For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: <29> that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell. <30> So when they were sent off, they came to Antioch; and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the letter.
Zoraxe
Maybe this has been explained here before, but what part of the the Law as defined in the Old Testament is still applicable after the death and resurrection of Christ? I've seen discussion of such & such law no longer applied as a result of newer covenants overriding the old, but it still seems much of it applies to our existing faith. For example, somebody tried to say cross-dressing being bad wasn't applicable under the new covenant, but that doesn't sound right? So, what's the determination from scripture as it applies to current faith?
Мико⚜🐾 02/26/2025 06:33
>What part of the Law as defined in the Old Testament is still applicable after the death and resurrection of Christ? Well, we can know what is applicable to us still as Christians, what is obsolete or was only intended for the Sinaitic covenant, and what has been fulfilled or what was a temporary condescension from God's part, and how to apply it in a correct manner via a variety of means. That being: <The teaching of the Church Christ left behind for us, since it is the pillar of truth (Matthew 16:18-20, Matthew 18:18-20) <Our own common sense (some of the commandments that are in the Torah literally cannot be practiced by Jews or Christians if they were supposed to as there is no temple) <Looking at what Christ, Paul and Peter in the New Testament say about our relationship to the Law >I've seen such discussion of such & such law no longer being applied as a result of the New covenant That's true to an extent, there are some laws that were only intended for those under the Mosaic covenant, and as I said earlier, laws that we physically cannot fulfil. For example, the ruling on tattoos and dressing a certain way, you have to read such things in the context of when they were passed down. God gave such rulings to make his Israelites look different and be separate from those around them aesthetically, not necessarily because wearing mixed clothing or getting tattoos is always going to be sinful in God's eyes. >Somebody tried to say cross-dressing being bad wasn't applicable under the New Covenant No, Paul condemns being scandalous to others around you as a Christian, and effeminacy. And that isn't just Paul's opinion, all Christians are bound to his words in those epistles forever. (edited)
Zoraxe 02/26/2025 07:06
Thank you all
07:07
There is still very much I've to learn about and keep in mind these distinctions
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/26/2025 22:40
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Zoraxe 02/27/2025 07:33
I am somewhat curious what is actually in that book. I kinda want to know what I'm talking about if I decide to openly criticize it aside from the warning of "other gospels" that Galatians gives
07:34
I found there's a decent number of artists I'm following that are Mormons. Would not have expected it
Мико⚜🐾
>What part of the Law as defined in the Old Testament is still applicable after the death and resurrection of Christ? Well, we can know what is applicable to us still as Christians, what is obsolete or was only intended for the Sinaitic covenant, and what has been fulfilled or what was a temporary condescension from God's part, and how to apply it in a correct manner via a variety of means. That being: <The teaching of the Church Christ left behind for us, since it is the pillar of truth (Matthew 16:18-20, Matthew 18:18-20) <Our own common sense (some of the commandments that are in the Torah literally cannot be practiced by Jews or Christians if they were supposed to as there is no temple) <Looking at what Christ, Paul and Peter in the New Testament say about our relationship to the Law >I've seen such discussion of such & such law no longer being applied as a result of the New covenant That's true to an extent, there are some laws that were only intended for those under the Mosaic covenant, and as I said earlier, laws that we physically cannot fulfil. For example, the ruling on tattoos and dressing a certain way, you have to read such things in the context of when they were passed down. God gave such rulings to make his Israelites look different and be separate from those around them aesthetically, not necessarily because wearing mixed clothing or getting tattoos is always going to be sinful in God's eyes. >Somebody tried to say cross-dressing being bad wasn't applicable under the New Covenant No, Paul condemns being scandalous to others around you as a Christian, and effeminacy. And that isn't just Paul's opinion, all Christians are bound to his words in those epistles forever. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 02/27/2025 07:45
touching back onto this, the belief of the early Church, and of the Roman Catholic Church given that you are a part of it at least nominally, would be that Paul's epistles are divinely inspired (edited)
07:46
People think that because Christ may not touch on the morality of a topic in the Gospels, if St. Paul or Peter says something on it, that is a mere opinion from their end and nothing more (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
People think that because Christ may not touch on the morality of a topic in the Gospels, if St. Paul or Peter says something on it, that is a mere opinion from their end and nothing more (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 02/27/2025 07:46
we have to keep in mind that a power to bind and loose was passed down from Christ to Peter, and then was conferred unto the Apostles. When Christ ascended to Heaven, He didn't leave us with a King James 1611 and told us to make something happen, no, He left us with an organization (edited)
Zoraxe
I am somewhat curious what is actually in that book. I kinda want to know what I'm talking about if I decide to openly criticize it aside from the warning of "other gospels" that Galatians gives
Мико⚜🐾 02/27/2025 07:48
the book of Mormon in and of itself isn't necessarily that mad, ofc its heretical by Apostolic standards, but its the other canonical texts they hold to where they get their terrible theology from mainly
Zoraxe 02/27/2025 07:51
What are the other canonical texts you're referring to?
Мико⚜🐾 02/27/2025 07:51
when I talk to Mormons and try to refute them, I generally attack their belief in us possessing the same essence God has, for one the eternality of creation and the fact that there is, because they believe that we are all physical children of God (that is we are born of the Father via procreation), that'd lead to an infinite regress of "gods" (edited)
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Zoraxe
What are the other canonical texts you're referring to?
Мико⚜🐾 02/27/2025 07:51
The Great Pearl of Elder Price would be one
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Or the Book of Abraham
Мико⚜🐾
when I talk to Mormons and try to refute them, I generally attack their belief in us possessing the same essence God has, for one the eternality of creation and the fact that there is, because they believe that we are all physical children of God (that is we are born of the Father via procreation), that'd lead to an infinite regress of "gods" (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 02/27/2025 07:52
Yhwh would need to have a father in their theology
07:52
and then his father would need a father
07:52
and then his father would need a father. the issue is that they do not say who is the first "god", from which all these other gods eternally proceed from (edited)
Plazma Silvara 02/27/2025 07:53
Mormon is if you took Christianity and tried to islamify it
Мико⚜🐾 02/27/2025 07:53
Another issue they have is their Zoroastrian concept of the Father becoming more powerful, the more people are devoted to Him
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If we are of the same essence as the Father and have the same potential to become as powerful therefore, we could all just devote ourselves to Lucifer and overthrow the Father
07:54
Such an impious sect, may God have mercy on all of its victims (edited)
Plazma Silvara
Mormon is if you took Christianity and tried to islamify it
Мико⚜🐾 02/27/2025 07:54
Мико⚜🐾
Plazma Silvara 02/27/2025 07:56
All I know is that some guy named John whatever looked into a hole and saw some Golden plates that said "you are right" and nobody else could see them for some reason
Plazma Silvara
Mormon is if you took Christianity and tried to islamify it
Zoraxe 02/27/2025 10:51
I've seen somebody make a similar point to that
Zoraxe
I've seen somebody make a similar point to that
Plazma Silvara 02/27/2025 11:03
I will firmly never take Mormons seriously
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/27/2025 11:05
@Мико⚜🐾 If there was just one Bible verse or passage that stands out the most to you, which one would it be and why?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/27/2025 11:13
Mark 14:62
BibleBot BOT 02/27/2025 11:13
Mark 14:62 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<62> And Jesus said, "I am; and you will see the Son of man seated at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven."
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 If there was just one Bible verse or passage that stands out the most to you, which one would it be and why?
Мико⚜🐾 02/27/2025 11:59
hmm, probably 1 Corinthians 13
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/27/2025 13:01
1 Corinthians 13
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Ah right
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1 Corinthians 13:1-10
BibleBot BOT 02/27/2025 13:01
1 Corinthians 13:1-10 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
The Gift of Love
<1> If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. <2> And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. <3> If I give away all I have, and if I deliver my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing. <4> Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful; <5> it is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; <6> it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right. <7> Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. <8> Love never ends; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. <9> For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect; <10> but when the perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away.
Мико⚜🐾 02/27/2025 13:03
1 corinthians 13:11-13 rsv
BibleBot BOT 02/27/2025 13:03
1 Corinthians 13:11-13 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<11> When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became a man, I gave up childish ways. <12> For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall understand fully, even as I have been fully understood. <13> So faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/27/2025 13:19
Matthew 26:39
BibleBot BOT 02/27/2025 13:19
Matthew 26:39 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<39> And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, "My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt."
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/27/2025 13:21
I dunno if I would call this my fav Bible verse but it's one which lingers with me a lot. There's a lot of layers to this one. Jesus showing His humanity on full display, weeping in fear and asking this fate pass Him if possible. But also Jesus' submission to the Father's will. To me, not only does it show that God suffered with us and felt exactly as we felt, but also that we should ultimate offer up our will to God's will.
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Like, I dunno. This one's just really been sitting with me for a while.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/27/2025 13:32
On a side note, will you be participating in Lent @Мико⚜🐾 ?
VikingTiger6 02/27/2025 15:05
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
On a side note, will you be participating in Lent @Мико⚜🐾 ?
Мико⚜🐾 02/27/2025 15:06
yes, i will be participating in Lent this year. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
yes, i will be participating in Lent this year. (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/27/2025 15:09
I'm trying to think what I should give up for Lent.
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Can't be video games. Xenoblade X comes out in the middle of Lent
Мико⚜🐾 02/27/2025 15:14
Well, us Russians give up meat and dairy already, I'm looking to get an exemption for eggs though
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Im still undecided on what else i will give up
15:16
may look to pick up a good habit as opposed to cutting off one
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/27/2025 15:20
I think the best thing to give up for Lent would be fizzy/energy drinks.
15:20
Going a step beyond, substituting all drinks for plain water.
15:20
No tea, coffee, colas, monsters. Just plain water.
Мико⚜🐾
may look to pick up a good habit as opposed to cutting off one
Мико⚜🐾 02/27/2025 15:26
start going on my daily walks again, for one
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
No tea, coffee, colas, monsters. Just plain water.
Мико⚜🐾 02/27/2025 15:27
i alr live like that basically though, only started drinking juices again to clear my gut out in a pleasant way
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/27/2025 15:28
I have a very sweet tooth. Probably in my best interest to force the habit out of me while honouring my Lord.
Мико⚜🐾
i alr live like that basically though, only started drinking juices again to clear my gut out in a pleasant way
VikingTiger6 02/27/2025 20:17
You did a juice fast?
VikingTiger6
You did a juice fast?
Мико⚜🐾 02/27/2025 20:20
no? juice fasts are gay and would probably kill my energy what i do is that i just leave a window between me consuming all of that ginger, chia, cayenne etc. and other fruits, between my actual meals (edited)
20:21
if you want to lose weight via a fast, do a "one meal a day" diet with a lot of meat and no carbs (edited)
VikingTiger6 02/27/2025 20:21
Then I'd just eat a shitload of food at dinner and make no difference
Мико⚜🐾
if you want to lose weight via a fast, do a "one meal a day" diet with a lot of meat and no carbs (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 02/27/2025 20:22
you can get away with eating a pound of mince, some cheese and 6 eggs in one day
VikingTiger6 02/27/2025 20:24
To be honest I probably won't fast because I work blue collar, I only brought this up because I was reading a book and it brought up the spiritual benefits of fasting and it mentioned how white collar workers can fast from food and just drink juice for the little bit of sugar to keep them able to work (edited)
Zoraxe 02/27/2025 21:53
I will probably give up social media for Lent. I will send a message here, but I will still respond to DMs and such. At least that's my current plan (edited)
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Мико⚜🐾 02/28/2025 10:58
Мико⚜🐾 02/28/2025 15:14
Q. 47) But are not the precepts of the old law long since fulfilled? " The precepts of the Old Testament which were concerning ceremonies and mysteries, and were to foreshadow the works of Christ, these all are passed away as a shadow at the approach of the body; nor are they any longer binding or to be observed by Christians. But those commands which enjoin the observation of charity and our duty towards God and our neighbour are not only to be observed by Christians, but to be observed also more carefully and perfectly by them than they were by the Israelites under the old law. For as God hath bestowed on us greater and more excellent gifts than on them, and especially as we have received that most incomparable grace of the Holy Spirit, through our Lord Jesus Christ." -
`St Peter Mogila, "Orthodox Confession", pt. 3`
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Arcane BOT 02/28/2025 15:14
@Мико⚜🐾 has reached level 92. GG!
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 02/28/2025 15:21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SQf-9ph6EA
Apologetics Roadshow
Christians, It's Time to Get Excited about 2025!
15:23
It has felt like it for a while now that there's been a big shift back towards Christianity.
VikingTiger6 02/28/2025 19:48
Yea every second generation or so this stuff happens
19:48
A generation turns to christ and their kids fall away
Zoraxe 02/28/2025 22:45
Yes, there's been a notable uptick in the US as well according to recent surveys
VikingTiger6
A generation turns to christ and their kids fall away
Мико⚜🐾 03/01/2025 08:27
is that really true though
08:27
Are Gen X more faithful than boomers?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/01/2025 09:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jh0ZP699kw
Brian Holdsworth
The Trans Religion
Мико⚜🐾
Are Gen X more faithful than boomers?
VikingTiger6 03/01/2025 09:40
youre taking me too literally
09:41
look in all the stories about israel, a generation repents only for their kids to fall back
09:41
same shit happens today
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jh0ZP699kw
VikingTiger6 03/01/2025 09:41
it all goes back to the cult of ishtar
09:41
they had trans prostitutes in the temple of ishtar
09:42
babylonian society normalized that shit
09:42
its evil and ancient
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/01/2025 16:51
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/what-jesus-really-looked-like-as-cynthia-erivo-is-cast-as-christ/ar-AA1A2aDT
16:51
Don't mock the Lord. Don't test the Lord thy God etc, right?
16:51
Let her.
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Let her play the role of Jesus
16:51
And let them at hollywood face the Lord's wrath.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/02/2025 19:28
@Мико⚜🐾 I'm debating baptism. Because my mother cannot confirm the conditions of my baptism as a baby due to her amnesia. Plus I don't remember my upbring being very... Christian? It was very luke-warm Christian, y'know. I never believed my Dad when he said Jesus was his "second favourite person in the world", because at no point did he ever show that reverence.
19:29
So I've pondered on it and prayed about it and it seems to be pushing me in the direction of being baptised.
Мико⚜🐾 03/02/2025 19:38
Well, baptism isn't really up for debate. I, along with every Church Father would tell you that it's essential for one's salvation
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John 3:5 1 Peter 3:21 If you're unsure about whether you really had one as a child, much less of the correct form, I would recommend receiving one
BibleBot BOT 03/02/2025 19:39
John 3:5 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<5> Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
19:39
1 Peter 3:21 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<21> Whereunto baptism being of the like form, now saveth you also: not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the examination of a good conscience towards God by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Мико⚜🐾 03/02/2025 19:40
Even if you did have one as a baby, God will not hold it against you and punish you, if you received a 2nd one as a result of lack of knowledge. (edited)
19:41
When I was received into the Russian Orthodox Church last month, they did make me cough up records that proved baptism prior to the day (edited)
19:42
And they may have received me via baptism if the bishop, who approves all catechumens to be received here, didnt take my word for it
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
So I've pondered on it and prayed about it and it seems to be pushing me in the direction of being baptised.
Мико⚜🐾 03/02/2025 19:43
If you're really uncertain, do it
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/02/2025 19:43
Sure.
19:44
I wonder if that cathedral near me does baptisms... Otherwise I'm quite sure the Evangelist church me n my sis go to does them.
Мико⚜🐾 03/02/2025 19:45
nice excerpt of the choir at my cathedral here, from our Forgiveness Sunday vespers
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/02/2025 19:45
I've really been digging choir music lately
19:46
I spent most of work listening to Gregorian chants and hymns
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I wonder if that cathedral near me does baptisms... Otherwise I'm quite sure the Evangelist church me n my sis go to does them.
Мико⚜🐾 03/02/2025 19:47
They most definitely do, but they will probably expect you to become a practicing member of that Church
19:47
If you do end up leaving or attending another denomination's parish, if they have closed communion like the Orthodox and Catholics do, you may have to go through the initiation process again. Not baptism though, but maybe classes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/02/2025 19:47
Catholic services bore me haha. But it's the closest church to me. The one me n my sis go to takes me out of my way.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I spent most of work listening to Gregorian chants and hymns
Мико⚜🐾 03/02/2025 19:48
Gregorian Chants are great
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/02/2025 19:48
But I did attend that same cathedral for Christmas and the service was really lovely.
Мико⚜🐾 03/02/2025 19:48
That, then the Russian stuff is my 2nd favourite, (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
But I did attend that same cathedral for Christmas and the service was really lovely.
Мико⚜🐾 03/02/2025 19:48
They usually do things a little more special on important feast days
19:49
other days of the year its your bog standard 8am mass
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/02/2025 19:49
This Easter I'll probably go back to that cathedral, unless I can be arsed to travel an hour to my sis' church.
19:50
Having said that, there's a really beautiful cathedral in the middle of Cardiff and I've always wondered what services there are like.
Мико⚜🐾 03/03/2025 12:16
https://youtu.be/qgMwSZnVxkk
Хор Храма 9-ти Мучеников Кизических - Topic
Покаяние
Мико⚜🐾
https://youtu.be/qgMwSZnVxkk
Мико⚜🐾 03/03/2025 12:16
@Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian @Sogga
Sogga 03/03/2025 12:16
hi
Sogga
hi
Мико⚜🐾 03/03/2025 12:16
hey, check out this chant
Мико⚜🐾
https://youtu.be/qgMwSZnVxkk
Sogga 03/03/2025 12:16
music to my ears
12:17
i love it already
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/03/2025 12:17
I'll check it when I get home
Sogga 03/03/2025 12:17
you guys should replace alarm clocks with religious chants
12:17
it would be so cool
Sogga
you guys should replace alarm clocks with religious chants
serpente482 03/03/2025 13:19
I had a clock as a kid that for the alarm it connected to some catholic radio channel so i woke up to either lectures or chants
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serpente482
I had a clock as a kid that for the alarm it connected to some catholic radio channel so i woke up to either lectures or chants
Sogga 03/03/2025 13:19
ooh
serpente482 03/03/2025 13:19
I didnt know how to change the channel doe
13:20
It broke and i couldnt so it got to that
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/07/2025 13:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPkLgCFd5U
Mike Stories
Why Everyone is Converting to Christianity
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cPkLgCFd5U
VikingTiger6 03/07/2025 14:39
"trumps govt pastor is a woman who believes Jesus is first creation" fell for it again award (edited)
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Мико⚜🐾 03/07/2025 14:41
She's an Arian?
14:41
Yuck.
Мико⚜🐾
She's an Arian?
VikingTiger6 03/07/2025 14:42
in the video shes talking to a heretic tryna say Jesus is less than what he is and she responds saying hes the first of creation
14:42
which is untrue because hes un created
Мико⚜🐾
She's an Arian?
VikingTiger6 03/07/2025 14:44
i hope not, atleast i dont think shes intelectually an arian just is uneducated on the trinity
14:44
i hope she realizes women cant be pastors and steps down
14:45
it reminds me of how the whole church almost went arian until one person spoke up
14:46
i cant remember that saints name but i figure alotta people in the church mustve been either uneducated or afraid not to speak up against arianism
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/07/2025 20:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSlp923IqcI
Christian Anime Podcast
The Most Hated Christian VTuber on Twitter | feat. @CelestiumVT
20:46
@Мико⚜🐾
Мико⚜🐾 03/08/2025 08:24
https://youtu.be/xj7wl2Zq1Fo
Orthodox Church
Orthodox Latin Bishop chants a praise
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾
Мико⚜🐾 03/08/2025 08:24
let me click on this now, hold on
ungen 03/09/2025 19:55
ungen 03/10/2025 07:09
Job 15:11
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Job 15:11 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<11> Are the consolations of God too small for you, or the word that deals gently with you?
Мико⚜🐾 03/10/2025 07:26
https://www.youtube.com/live/AiFNAcsTsdA?feature=shared&t=5413
faturechi
This DUMMER Week
Мико⚜🐾
https://www.youtube.com/live/AiFNAcsTsdA?feature=shared&t=5413
Мико⚜🐾 03/10/2025 07:26
my boi Andre talking with an Orthodox Jew
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/10/2025 22:30
Deuteronomy 31:6
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Deuteronomy 31:6 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<6> Be strong and of good courage, do not fear or be in dread of them: for it is the Lord your God who goes with you; he will not fail you or forsake you."
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Мико⚜🐾 03/11/2025 07:24
"I affirm, then, that it is a lawful thing to hate God's enemies, and that this kind of hatred is pleasing to our Lord: and by God's enemies I mean those who deny the glory of our Lord, be they Jews, or downright idolaters, or those who through Arius' teaching idolize the creature, and so adopt the error of the Jews."
`Saint Gregory of Nyssa, Letter XVII` (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/11/2025 10:18
Matthew 19:26
BibleBot BOT 03/11/2025 10:18
Matthew 19:26 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<26> But Jesus looked at them and said to them, "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/11/2025 15:55
@Мико⚜🐾 I actually think we might be in the process of the end times
Arcane BOT 03/11/2025 15:55
@Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian has reached level 71. GG!
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/11/2025 15:55
Genuinely.
15:57
Recall that "God gave them over to their sin". And look at how viciously these people fight back when you call out their sexual immorality, for example. Look at how angrily people cling to their sin and try to justify child sacrifice (abortion) and allowing pedophiles near children.
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15:57
These people have been given over to their sin and you're hard pressed to find one in the crowd willing to change their heart.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 I actually think we might be in the process of the end times
Мико⚜🐾 03/11/2025 16:34
we've been in the end times since the time of Christ really, but yes things are foretold to ultimately be at a downward trajectory
16:34
until His second coming
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Recall that "God gave them over to their sin". And look at how viciously these people fight back when you call out their sexual immorality, for example. Look at how angrily people cling to their sin and try to justify child sacrifice (abortion) and allowing pedophiles near children.
Мико⚜🐾 03/11/2025 18:06
Romans 1:24-25 moment
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Romans 1:24-25 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<24> Wherefore God gave them up to the desires of their heart, unto uncleanness, to dishonour their own bodies among themselves. <25> Who changed the truth of God into a lie; and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
These people have been given over to their sin and you're hard pressed to find one in the crowd willing to change their heart.
Мико⚜🐾 03/11/2025 18:07
God forbid I or you ever fall away and become reprobate even for a time
18:07
It's a dark place to be, away from Him. You know, sometimes I will go some time without repenting from a sin, I already sense it somewhat then
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/11/2025 18:07
I get temptations all the time. But I make sure to remember what a life without Christ was like and that makes me want to cling to Christ more.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/12/2025 18:22
https://vxtwitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1899855430794297781
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/13/2025 20:24
Psalm 42:1
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Psalm 42:1 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Longing for God and His Help in Distress
<1> As a hart longs for flowing streams, so longs my soul for thee, O God.
serpente482 03/13/2025 21:38
I just returned home from a christian meeting they made in my uni
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21:39
We were playing poker in the break time and a guy dressed as a horse came and invited everyone to it
21:39
I brought my agnostic friend
21:40
I was sit in the table of the horse dude
21:41
An artist came and played some songs and then a guy made an speech on hope
21:41
Then i argued about good and bad with a girl who is studying philosophy and doesnt believe
21:42
Twas nice and they gave free dinner
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/13/2025 21:43
Debating with philosophy students on good and evil.
21:43
Lol. Lmao, even.
serpente482 03/13/2025 21:43
It was about how only humans knew good from bad
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/13/2025 21:45
Mmmm probably true? I don't know enough about the nature of animals to comment.
21:46
We see animals take care of young which aren't their species, for example. But that could just be biology, not an internal moral compass.
serpente482 03/13/2025 21:46
She said dolphins can be evil and i told her dolphins just do "that stuff dolphins do" for fun and cant understand if its bad
21:49
I also told her a junkie can stop taking drugs because he understands they are bad for him but an animal who gets addicted to drugs will never be able to because they cant difference something that is good for them or bad for them when the bad thing feels good
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21:49
Lot of humans also fall in that category doe
21:51
Animals can only do or not do something but will never know why they do or not do that thing
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/13/2025 21:52
That's true.
Мико⚜🐾 03/14/2025 14:04
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serpente482
Lot of humans also fall in that category doe
Мико⚜🐾 03/14/2025 14:06
truth
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/14/2025 17:52
https://vxtwitter.com/JohnnieM/status/1900170963070714334 (edited)
17:52
17:53
Washed old man.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Washed old man.
Мико⚜🐾 03/14/2025 17:54
when Sam Hyde told us to check the list of names
17:54
I thought he was talking about all the Jews
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/14/2025 17:55
Peterson has been so flip-floppy on whether or not he's a Christian for so long I'm kind of bored of the charade
17:56
Either profess Christ is Lord or just shut up and go back to talking about "those damn neo marxists"
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Click to see attachment 🖼️
VikingTiger6 03/14/2025 19:21
I understand that some terrible people use this phrase to spread hate but the people making this study wouldn't honestly and meaningfully declare Christ as King either so they're hippocrites (edited)
19:22
Just another Jewish scheme
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/14/2025 21:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w4yjRW3U2I
Valuetainment
"Satan Has Engulfed the Churches" - Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel Reacts...
21:13
But seriously, why are people like the Pope and King Charles bending the knee to stuff that is clearly opposed to scripture?
21:17
God bless Mar Mari Emmanuel.
serpente482 03/14/2025 21:29
Pope haters when they are told to read something else than the title of sensationalist press articles
21:29
serpente482
Pope haters when they are told to read something else than the title of sensationalist press articles
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/14/2025 21:36
Then show that proof.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Then show that proof.
serpente482 03/14/2025 21:38
What proof you need
21:39
The dinner with transgenders was because they were fucking sexually exploited dirt poor niggers and it was "poor people day"
21:39
The Church says troons are mentally ill
21:39
Mentally ill people are supposed to be helped
21:41
The "muh the Pope says homosexuality is okay o algo"
21:41
Also a lie
21:43
The Pope says he doesnt hate anyone and a retarded faggot "thinks uh satanists are in everyone so because the Pope doesnt hate anyone he doesnt hate satanism soooo he loves stanism, im going to put it in a press article"
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/14/2025 21:57
I'm still waiting for something to back that up. And also, what of him saying that all religions are equal?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I'm still waiting for something to back that up. And also, what of him saying that all religions are equal?
serpente482 03/14/2025 22:36
???????
22:37
I wont reply until you show me proof you arent a bot developed by china
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22:38
Cuz now its the problem of the other person to dispute the random and without basis claims the other makes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I'm still waiting for something to back that up. And also, what of him saying that all religions are equal?
VikingTiger6 03/14/2025 23:36
He said "all religions are a path to God" when he was talking to Asian youths, he didn't seem to explain what he meant but the usual cope is something along the lines of "itsa translation error" or "he actually meant all religions are a path to catholosism" or something like that, personally I think that if the cope is true I still wouldn't say such easily misinterpretable things to youths in Asia who can barely understand you and could easily take that message as an excuse to keep doing their paganism
VikingTiger6
He said "all religions are a path to God" when he was talking to Asian youths, he didn't seem to explain what he meant but the usual cope is something along the lines of "itsa translation error" or "he actually meant all religions are a path to catholosism" or something like that, personally I think that if the cope is true I still wouldn't say such easily misinterpretable things to youths in Asia who can barely understand you and could easily take that message as an excuse to keep doing their paganism
serpente482 03/14/2025 23:55
It was in a religiously diverse city, he said all religions are a path that looked for God, muslims and jews look for God, ancient religions also looked for God. But out of all those paths only christianity is the correct one
23:57
Just keep hating the Pope and catholicism lets see how your "christianity" does. Yall managed to remove Jesus from both his life and death celebrations and replaced him with a soda mascot and a rabbit in less than 100 years. Keep gulping all your anticatholicism propagande lets see where that leaves you (edited)
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Мико⚜🐾 03/15/2025 02:38
ja
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/16/2025 08:21
I hate to say it but JP might have been onto something. I check the account and he's a groyper trying to say Hitler was Christian (which is based or something).
Мико⚜🐾 03/16/2025 08:39
To say Hitler was Christian is a cope but the whole Aryan Jesus and Nazi state Church stuff is also a myth as well
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/16/2025 08:53
Nothing says "follower of Christ" like hating Jews.
08:53
Because Jesus totally wasn't a Jew or nothin'
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Because Jesus totally wasn't a Jew or nothin'
GR 03/16/2025 16:23
to be fair the jews of the old testament are not the jews of today
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VikingTiger6 03/16/2025 16:27
Jews of today literally hate Jesus
16:27
All our ancestors knew not to trust them
16:28
"The jew crys as he strikes you" polish proverb
Мико⚜🐾 03/16/2025 16:57
VikingTiger6
Jews of today literally hate Jesus
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/16/2025 17:03
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/16/2025 22:36
1 John 2:15
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1 John 2:15 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<15> Do not love the world or the things in the world. If any one loves the world, love for the Father is not in him.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/16/2025 22:37
Romans 12:6
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Romans 12:6 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<6> Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, in proportion to our faith;
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/16/2025 22:38
Ephesians 4:11
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Ephesians 4:11 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<11> And his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers,
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/16/2025 22:59
John 15:18-19
BibleBot BOT 03/16/2025 22:59
John 15:18-19 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
The World's Hatred
<18> "If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. <19> If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.
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Zoraxe 03/18/2025 13:38
Idk if this is coincidence or not, but the last 2 times I've had the consecrated wine, I've gotten really sick
13:40
Last time, I got a throat infection that lasted a week. Now, I've got some sort of stomach flu and have been stuck in bed since yesterday
Zoraxe 03/18/2025 13:49
It's possible the sharing of the cup at my church has not been done by the most sanitary people
Zoraxe
It's possible the sharing of the cup at my church has not been done by the most sanitary people
serpente482 03/18/2025 13:51
You share wine in Church?
Zoraxe 03/18/2025 13:51
They offer the wine after the bread, and they simply wipe the edge of the cup between people taking sips
serpente482 03/18/2025 13:52
Usually its just the bread here
Zoraxe 03/18/2025 13:52
It's not always offered
serpente482 03/18/2025 13:52
Catholics believe the bread already has the body soul and blood
13:53
So wine is not needed
13:53
Only for the priest
Zoraxe 03/18/2025 13:53
But the last two times about 3 weeks apart from each other have been followed with the only major sicknesses I've had in about 4 years
serpente482 03/18/2025 13:54
Cuz you cant do it safely and quick
serpente482
So wine is not needed
Zoraxe 03/18/2025 13:55
I will keep this in mind so I don't unnecessarily contaminate myself in the future
Zoraxe
I will keep this in mind so I don't unnecessarily contaminate myself in the future
serpente482 03/18/2025 13:57
Yeah, also in winter with all the diseases
13:57
Its a russian roulettte
Мико⚜🐾 03/18/2025 14:05
1 Corinthians 11:23-30
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1 Corinthians 11:23-30 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<23> For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus, the same night in which he was betrayed, took bread. <24> And giving thanks, broke, and said: Take ye, and eat: this is my body, which shall be delivered for you: this do for the commemoration of me. <25> In like manner also the chalice, after he had supped, saying: This chalice is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as often as you shall drink, for the commemoration of me. <26> For as often as you shall eat this bread, and drink the chalice, you shall shew the death of the Lord, until he come. <27> Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. <28> But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. <29> For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord. <30> Therefore are there many infirm and weak among you, and many sleep.
Zoraxe
Idk if this is coincidence or not, but the last 2 times I've had the consecrated wine, I've gotten really sick
Мико⚜🐾 03/18/2025 14:06
Have you been confessing prior to taking communion
serpente482
So wine is not needed
Мико⚜🐾 03/18/2025 14:07
Well yeah, that is true, but it would be preferred to receive both right
Zoraxe 03/18/2025 14:09
I need to do a formal confession still as it has been a while (~15 years at this point)
Мико⚜🐾
Have you been confessing prior to taking communion
Мико⚜🐾 03/18/2025 14:09
Confession isn't going to be absolutely essential before taking communion, but it is going to be the only way that we can be certain we are in the correct state to receive the mystery
Zoraxe
I need to do a formal confession still as it has been a while (~15 years at this point)
Мико⚜🐾 03/18/2025 14:10
We need to get you in the booth soon man It won't be as daunting as you think it will be, I confessed for the first time about 10 days ago
14:10
Well for the 2nd time. That was the first confession since I was chrismated
Zoraxe 03/18/2025 14:11
I'm not concerned about doing it. Just have to look at the schedule to see when it's being done.
Мико⚜🐾
Confession isn't going to be absolutely essential before taking communion, but it is going to be the only way that we can be certain we are in the correct state to receive the mystery
Мико⚜🐾 03/18/2025 14:14
I say this because it is Catholic as well as Orthodox teaching that one cannot become sick directly from the Eucharist, unless if he or her is receiving it in a poor standing before God
Zoraxe 03/18/2025 14:15
I see
14:15
On the flipside, at least I'm building up my immune system
Zoraxe
I need to do a formal confession still as it has been a while (~15 years at this point)
serpente482 03/18/2025 15:00
Ive been like more than 10 years
15:00
I will do it in summer
15:01
Probably
Мико⚜🐾
I say this because it is Catholic as well as Orthodox teaching that one cannot become sick directly from the Eucharist, unless if he or her is receiving it in a poor standing before God
VikingTiger6 03/18/2025 18:53
My church also teaches this, we are warned not to take the eucharist if we are "partaking in an unworthy manner" or something along those lines
Мико⚜🐾
Confession isn't going to be absolutely essential before taking communion, but it is going to be the only way that we can be certain we are in the correct state to receive the mystery
Мико⚜🐾 03/18/2025 18:59
I confess about 1x a month, but I have denied myself communion twice so far because I simply just felt I had yet to repent
VikingTiger6
My church also teaches this, we are warned not to take the eucharist if we are "partaking in an unworthy manner" or something along those lines
Мико⚜🐾 03/18/2025 18:59
That's good
VikingTiger6
My church also teaches this, we are warned not to take the eucharist if we are "partaking in an unworthy manner" or something along those lines
serpente482 03/18/2025 22:55
Protestants do eucharist?
22:55
Also arent baptists the ones that do it with juice instead of wine
serpente482
Protestants do eucharist?
VikingTiger6 03/18/2025 23:18
yea, we call it the lords supper
serpente482
Also arent baptists the ones that do it with juice instead of wine
VikingTiger6 03/18/2025 23:18
we have wine and juice, just gives choice for people
VikingTiger6
we have wine and juice, just gives choice for people
Richiyo the ||| 03/19/2025 01:54
i love you bruh
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/19/2025 14:42
Mark 5:9
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Mark 5:9 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<9> And Jesus asked him, "What is your name?" He replied, "My name is Legion; for we are many."
Zoraxe 03/19/2025 17:17
Feeling a lot better today
serpente482
Protestants do eucharist?
Мико⚜🐾 03/19/2025 17:19
Yes, only some disregard it altogether
VikingTiger6 03/19/2025 19:01
JW's have a complete mockery of Eucharist
19:01
They just pass the plate around and nobody partakes
Zoraxe
Feeling a lot better today
Zoraxe 03/19/2025 21:50
Very possible I got poisoned by the milk I had. Expiration was May 2nd, but I decided to pour out the small amount that was left and saw small chunks
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/19/2025 22:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89R4L_Xu34Q
Father Spyridon
SEPARATE YOURSELF FROM A FALLEN CULTURE
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/19/2025 22:15
1 John 2:15
BibleBot BOT 03/19/2025 22:15
1 John 2:15 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<15> Do not love the world or the things in the world. If any one loves the world, love for the Father is not in him.
Arcane BOT 03/20/2025 23:34
@Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian has reached level 72. GG!
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/20/2025 23:35
https://fixvx.com/taco_talks/status/1902730753127100663
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23:35
Finally.
23:35
Anyway dude spitting.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://fixvx.com/taco_talks/status/1902730753127100663
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 01:35
Wait till you see what the catholic catechism says is the 10 commandments
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 06:53
In Matthew 27:46, when Christ is on the cross and cries "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabacthani", several people mistake that as Christ asking for the intercession of Prophet Elijah (Matthew 27:47)
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 06:53
Matthew 27:46 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<46> And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying: Eli, Eli, lamma sabacthani? that is, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
06:53
Matthew 27:47 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<47> And some that stood there and heard, said: This man calleth Elias.
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 06:55
intercession of the saints and the angels, prayers for the reposed, this isn't actually only patristic, as in the early Church demonstrably believed in these things (Roman catacombs, uncovered writings, Church Fathers universally professing this dogma), but is pre-patristic and is found in the Deuterocanon, apocryphal texts and other 2nd Temple literature. Tobit 12:12-15 2 Maccabees 15:12-20 (edited)
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 06:55
Tobit 12:12-15 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<12> When thou didst pray with tears, and didst bury the dead, and didst leave thy dinner, and hide the dead by day in thy house, and bury them by night, I offered thy prayer to the Lord. <13> And because thou wast acceptable to God, it was necessary that temptation should prove thee. <14> And now the Lord hath sent me to heal thee, and to deliver Sara thy son's wife from the devil. <15> For I am the angel Raphael, one of the seven, who stand before the Lord.
06:55
2 Maccabees 15:12-20 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<12> Now the vision was in this manner: Onias who had been high priest, a good and virtuous man, modest in his looks, gentle in his manners, and graceful in his speech, and who from a child was exercised in virtues, holding up his hands, prayed for all the people of the Jews: <13> After this there appeared also another man, admirable for age, and glory, and environed with great beauty and majesty: <14> Then Onias answering, Raid: This is a lover of his brethren, and of the people of Israel: this is he that prayeth much for the people, and for all the holy city, Jeremias the prophet of God. <15> Whereupon Jeremias stretched forth his right hand, and gave to Judas a sword of gold, saying: <16> Take this holy sword a gift from God, wherewith thou shalt overthrow the adversaries of my people Israel. <17> Thus being exhorted with the words of Judas, which were very good, and proper to stir up the courage, and strengthen the hearts of the young men, they resolved to fight, and to set upon them manfully: that valour might decide the matter, because the holy city and the temple were in danger. <18> For their concern was less for their wives, and children, and for their brethren, and kinsfolks: but their greatest and principal fear was for the holiness of the temple. <19> And they also that were in the city, had no little concern for them that were to be engaged in battle. <20> And now when all expected what judgment would be given, and the enemies were at hand, and the army was set in array, the beasts and the horsemen ranged in convenient places,
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Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 06:56
Onias, the High Priest, calling for the intercession of Jeremiah. Raphael telling Tobit and his family that he prays before the Lord for him. (edited)
07:01
What does Christ say Himself what happens when the 1 sheep returns to Him? That there is joy in the presence of angels. Are not the prayers of those in and outside of Heaven offered up during the eternal worship that takes place in Paradise in Revelation 5-8? How do the martyrs of Revelation 6 know they have yet to be avenged by God on Earth? (edited)
07:03
If those within Heaven cannot know what occurs on Earth, if they have no awareness of our affairs, then why does Paul proclaim that we are surrounded by a cloud of witnesses of holy ones of the Old Testament?
07:04
So no, Roman Catholics do not "pray to a demon and call it Mary".
07:07
And he and anyone else who believes what he teaches professes a Gospel that is just going to be contradictory to the ancient faith. I hate to be polemical, but that is the cold hard truth (edited)
07:10
He says that you "cannot pray to dead people", God is not the god of the dead, but of the living. Those who are not here anymore are not "dead" but have passed on to the next life. Mark 12:27 (edited)
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 07:10
Mark 12:27 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<27> He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You therefore do greatly err.
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 07:33
He insists that Mary died, no one contends that. That she was a "sinful woman", that she was "not a perpetual virgin", and that she did "not assume bodily". But what are his zealous conclusions grounded in, given that the Bible does not even touch on her death? The sandy foundation that is private interpretation. Acts 8:27-31 (edited)
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 07:33
Acts 8:27-31 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<27> And rising up, he went. And behold a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch, of great authority under Candace the queen of the Ethiopians, who had charge over all her treasures, had come to Jerusalem to adore. <28> And he was returning, sitting in this chariot, and reading Isaias the prophet. <29> And the Spirit said to Philip: Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. <30> And Philip running thither, heard him reading the prophet Isaias. And he said: Thinkest thou that thou understandest what thou readest? <31> Who said: And how can I, unless some man shew me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 07:34
2 Peter 1:19-21
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 07:34
2 Peter 1:19-21 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<19> And we have the more firm prophetical word: whereunto you do well to attend, as to a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: <20> Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation. <21> For prophecy came not by the will of man at any time: but the holy men of God spoke, inspired by the Holy Ghost.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://fixvx.com/taco_talks/status/1902730753127100663
serpente482 03/21/2025 08:28
08:29
Protestants hate Mary way more than they love Jesus
08:29
Fake christians
08:31
Its just the hate boner from Luther that they still share
08:31
Im pretty sure none of the anticatholic retards know orthodoxs believe in the same things they hate catholics for
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 08:34
We don't hate Mary. We criticize the fact that Catholics pray to a dead person who cannot answer their prayers. You're not praying to Mary, but a demon.
08:34
At no point in scripture does it say "pray to Jesus's mother o algo" it says to pray to the Father.
serpente482
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 08:35
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 08:35
Scripture is also clear on the fact that God is not the god of the dead but of the living. People in Heaven are not "dead", they are more alive than we are. Just unfortunately separated from their body. (edited)
08:35
Scripture is clear on the fact that angels intercede for us, that there is an eternal liturgy in Heaven, and that those there are conscious of what occurs on Earth
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 08:36
If you are directing your prayers to anything other than Jesus/Yahweh, those prayers are going to demons. It's not rocket science.
Мико⚜🐾
Scripture is clear on the fact that angels intercede for us, that there is an eternal liturgy in Heaven, and that those there are conscious of what occurs on Earth
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 08:37
Whether they can hear all of us simultaneously is ultimately going to depend on your views of what happens to oneself after baptism and after bodily death, whether you accept any notion of deification or "theosis", what you hold justification to be (purely extrinsic and legal vs. intrinsic and transformative) (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Whether they can hear all of us simultaneously is ultimately going to depend on your views of what happens to oneself after baptism and after bodily death, whether you accept any notion of deification or "theosis", what you hold justification to be (purely extrinsic and legal vs. intrinsic and transformative) (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 08:39
The Catholics and Orthodox follow those who defended the doctrine of the Trinity, 2 natures of Christ, preserved and compiled scripture and fought for the legalization of Christianity on this. Saint Athanasius and the Cappadocians all believed that eternal glorification in Heaven was part in parcel with becoming "deified", becoming lower-case-g gods and being able to become relatively omniscient as a result of God's grace being imputed unto them (edited)
08:41
Whether you agree with the conclusions of those people or not, we have continuity with them theologically, and if no one at large believed in what you hold to today back then, would that not imply at some point there was a great apostasy, a falling away from the faith
08:42
That people, all Church leaders from the 2nd century, just fell into idolatry for 1300 years.. If the concept of the Trinity, a trinitarian reading of the Bible.. and our understanding of it comes from idolaters and demon worshippers, how can we be sure that that's the correct interpretation? You can't (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
If you are directing your prayers to anything other than Jesus/Yahweh, those prayers are going to demons. It's not rocket science.
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 08:45
So then when Onias calls on Jeremiah to pray for Jerusalem, he is calling on a demon instead? When Job mentions calling for angels in Job 5:1 during his monologue, is he being an idolater?
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Job 5:1 lxx Job 5:1 vulgate Job 5:1 elxx
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 08:46
ΙΩΒ 5:1 - Septuagint (LXX)
<1> Ἐπικαλέσαι δὲ εἴ τις σοι ὑπακούσεται, ἢ εἴ τινα ἀγγέλων ἁγίων ὄψῃ·
08:46
Iob 5:1 - Biblia Sacra Vulgata (VULGATE)
<1> Voca ergo, si est qui tibi respondeat, et ad aliquem sanctorum convertere.
08:46
Job 5:1 - Brenton's Septuagint (ELXX)
<1> But call, if anyone will hearken to thee, Or if thou shalt see any of the holy angels.
serpente482
Its just the hate boner from Luther that they still share
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 08:50
The guy in the video does have a hate boner for Catholics and holy tradition, because guess what.. all of the Reformers believed that Mary was without personal sin (although they did reject the Immaculate Conception), that "Mother of God" was a title befitting for her, and at least believed that perpetual virginity was an acceptable theological opinion (edited)
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None of them denied the bodily assumption of Mary after her death either. He is a neo-Protestant filled with pride and malice in his heart (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
The Catholics and Orthodox follow those who defended the doctrine of the Trinity, 2 natures of Christ, preserved and compiled scripture and fought for the legalization of Christianity on this. Saint Athanasius and the Cappadocians all believed that eternal glorification in Heaven was part in parcel with becoming "deified", becoming lower-case-g gods and being able to become relatively omniscient as a result of God's grace being imputed unto them (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 08:56
We are told in James 5:16 that the prayer of a righteous man availeth much. If we hold that those in Heaven are not "dead" but merely elsewhere, and if we hold that those we know to be in Heaven through guidance of the Holy Spirit can be aware of our affairs on Earth as a result of that deification, theosis, it only logically follows that we should call on these people to pray for us as if they were right beside us. Which would be the only explanation that is fitting for us as to why Job, 2 Maccabees, Tobit and Revelation teach this. It's one thing to believe in something, but why is it true?
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 08:56
James 5:16 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<16> Confess therefore your sins one to another: and pray one for another, that you may be saved. For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
We don't hate Mary. We criticize the fact that Catholics pray to a dead person who cannot answer their prayers. You're not praying to Mary, but a demon.
serpente482 03/21/2025 10:16
Protestants dont believe in heaven lmao
10:18
Mohammad and Luther were both influenced by the devil
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 11:45
Мико⚜🐾
The guy in the video does have a hate boner for Catholics and holy tradition, because guess what.. all of the Reformers believed that Mary was without personal sin (although they did reject the Immaculate Conception), that "Mother of God" was a title befitting for her, and at least believed that perpetual virginity was an acceptable theological opinion (edited)
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 18:13
Doesn't the bible say "for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God"?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 18:24
https://vxtwitter.com/NiohBerg/status/1903002896951607528
Twitter
♛ ✡︎ (@NiohBerg)
Translation: "We tried to colonise Spain and force our religion on the natives, but got our asses handed to us" https://t.co/xcEchJzjGg
18:25
Also, it's fine to show respect towards the mother Mary but putting her on this weirdly super high pedestal is idolatry. Simple as.
VikingTiger6
Doesn't the bible say "for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God"?
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 18:44
"All" is seldom going to mean "literally all people ever" within scripture
18:45
Or in the mind of someone from pre-antiquity or antiquity
18:47
From the beginning this has been read to signify humanity at large, but not all men ever. Protestants did not question this, because unlike other beliefs, like the papacy for instance, there was no case to be made that Christians in the generations after the time of Christ confessed otherwise (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
"All" is seldom going to mean "literally all people ever" within scripture
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 18:48
Even Romans 5:12, where Paul teaches that all men "sin in Adam", that's going to exclude Christ, who by necessity could not have sin if He is to be a spotless lamb.
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 18:48
Romans 5:12 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<12> Wherefore as by one man sin entered into this world, and by sin death; and so death passed upon all men, in whom all have sinned.
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 18:50
Babies although they do suffer death also do not have personal sin either, although they as Augustine speculates in Confessions, show signs of their fallen state (i.e. jealousy, throwing tantrums over what is not good for them) (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Babies although they do suffer death also do not have personal sin either, although they as Augustine speculates in Confessions, show signs of their fallen state (i.e. jealousy, throwing tantrums over what is not good for them) (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 18:53
I think the fact that toddlers can discern right from wrong yet cannot articulate why something is good/bad is proof enough that morals are imprinted on our hearts.
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 18:57
Well yeah, there is a reason why all "successful" cultures and societies have at least a small agreement on what's going to be morally wrong. Unjustified killing, theft etc. We are naturally repulsed when we see homosexual acts, even those who support homosexuality. Because the Law is written on our hearts, and most people have enough grace to come to some logical conclusions from observation of the natural world. However, it is possible to be so reprobate, to have a heart and mind so darkened that you cannot perceive reality in a correct way (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
"All" is seldom going to mean "literally all people ever" within scripture
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 18:58
But where is the evidence that Mary is sinless? I know she is righteous and many people who have sinned in the bible were considered righteous
Мико⚜🐾
Well yeah, there is a reason why all "successful" cultures and societies have at least a small agreement on what's going to be morally wrong. Unjustified killing, theft etc. We are naturally repulsed when we see homosexual acts, even those who support homosexuality. Because the Law is written on our hearts, and most people have enough grace to come to some logical conclusions from observation of the natural world. However, it is possible to be so reprobate, to have a heart and mind so darkened that you cannot perceive reality in a correct way (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 18:58
Although that is rare even today
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://vxtwitter.com/NiohBerg/status/1903002896951607528
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:16
"convert or we steal everything from you or kill you"
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Also, it's fine to show respect towards the mother Mary but putting her on this weirdly super high pedestal is idolatry. Simple as.
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:17
You dont know what idolatry is, you just heard it somewhere else and try to sounds convinced
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19:17
Truth is you are just the religious version of r/atheism
VikingTiger6
But where is the evidence that Mary is sinless? I know she is righteous and many people who have sinned in the bible were considered righteous
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:18
Well, the evidence of Mary's sinlessness (inasmuch as she committed no personal sin, her also lacking original sin is something that comes later whether true or not) is going to be from oral Church tradition, which we can trace back the origin to as early as the 2nd century today. And as a result of subscription to this oral tradition, one is going to view certain scripture as confirmation of these ideas. We are naturally going to understand verses such as Luke 1:27 and Luke 1:42 in a different manner to someone who disregards Church tradition or doesn't hold to it being infallible. In widely popular writings such as the Protoevangelion of James, the Odes of Solomon and Ascension of Isaiah such a thing is taught. The first Apologist for the Christian faith, St. Justin Martyr, subscribed to the teaching. St. Irenæus, who has his episcopacy from a disciple of John, also held to the doctrine as well. Origen of Alexandria, although some of his doctrine was deemed as heretical by the Church later on, was and is widely influential, also held to her sinlessness. As did his schoolmaster, St. Clement of Alexandria. St. Hippolytus, Bishop of Rome. All of the defenders of Nicene Christianity believed in her lack of personal sin, with the exception of Ss. Hilary of Poitiers and John Chrysostom.
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 19:18
Luke 1:27 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<27> To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
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Luke 1:42 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<42> And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
Мико⚜🐾
Well, the evidence of Mary's sinlessness (inasmuch as she committed no personal sin, her also lacking original sin is something that comes later whether true or not) is going to be from oral Church tradition, which we can trace back the origin to as early as the 2nd century today. And as a result of subscription to this oral tradition, one is going to view certain scripture as confirmation of these ideas. We are naturally going to understand verses such as Luke 1:27 and Luke 1:42 in a different manner to someone who disregards Church tradition or doesn't hold to it being infallible. In widely popular writings such as the Protoevangelion of James, the Odes of Solomon and Ascension of Isaiah such a thing is taught. The first Apologist for the Christian faith, St. Justin Martyr, subscribed to the teaching. St. Irenæus, who has his episcopacy from a disciple of John, also held to the doctrine as well. Origen of Alexandria, although some of his doctrine was deemed as heretical by the Church later on, was and is widely influential, also held to her sinlessness. As did his schoolmaster, St. Clement of Alexandria. St. Hippolytus, Bishop of Rome. All of the defenders of Nicene Christianity believed in her lack of personal sin, with the exception of Ss. Hilary of Poitiers and John Chrysostom.
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:19
From the 4th century it was the most common belief to hold to, and it was made dogmatic at the Third Ecumenical Council, Ephesus I (431) (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 19:19
How is putting the mother Mary on a pedestal, praying directly to her (a dead person), putting her on par with Christ (and some Catholics put her above Christ) and creating shrines of her not Idolatry?
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:19
She's not "dead", no one who has passed is
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
How is putting the mother Mary on a pedestal, praying directly to her (a dead person), putting her on par with Christ (and some Catholics put her above Christ) and creating shrines of her not Idolatry?
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:19
No catholic puts her above christ, another lie youve been fed
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She is in heaven
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:20
Mark 12:27
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 19:20
Mark 12:27 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<27> He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You therefore do greatly err.
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:20
Why pray for your dead grandma after she has passed away if she is dead
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:20
Those in Paradise are more alive than we are, for they partake in the divine nature
Мико⚜🐾
Those in Paradise are more alive than we are, for they partake in the divine nature
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:20
As Peter teaches in his epistle
19:21
2 Peter 1:1-4
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 19:21
2 Peter 1:1-4 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<1> Simon Peter, servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained equal faith with us in the justice of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ. <2> Grace to you and peace be accomplished in the knowledge of God and of Christ Jesus our Lord: <3> As all things of his divine power which appertain to life and godliness, are given us, through the knowledge of him who hath called us by his own proper glory and virtue. <4> By whom he hath given us most great and precious promises: that by these you may be made partakers of the divine nature: flying the corruption of that concupiscence which is in the world.
serpente482
Why pray for your dead grandma after she has passed away if she is dead
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 19:21
You're praying for her soul to be with Christ. You are not praying to her so that she will answer your prayers and have an active spiritual presence in your life.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
You're praying for her soul to be with Christ. You are not praying to her so that she will answer your prayers and have an active spiritual presence in your life.
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:21
Praying to who
19:21
She is dead
19:21
O algo
19:22
She cant hear you
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 19:23
Yeah because you should ideally be praying to Christ or the Father, that they may answer your call and keep her soul safe with them. You're not praying directly to your dead grandmother.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Yeah because you should ideally be praying to Christ or the Father, that they may answer your call and keep her soul safe with them. You're not praying directly to your dead grandmother.
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:23
But whats the point she already went to heaven
serpente482
But whats the point she already went to heaven
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 19:23
That's a great question.
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:23
Because theres also no step where your soul is purified
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You just go there
19:23
Because
19:23
Erm
19:24
Some dude in the 16th century said so okay
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serpente482
Why pray for your dead grandma after she has passed away if she is dead
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:24
We know for a fact that 2nd Temple Jews interceded for those who had passed, it's all throughout their writings. As for praying for the passed within Christianity, this can be demonstrated as early as the 3rd Century. This is, like the concept of the lack of personal sins of Mary, going to be a belief that all defenders of the Trinity, the reason why we're even typing here (as God used these holy men and women) held to.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 19:26
If you are not praying directly to God/Jesus, you are praying to a demon. It's really that straight forward.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
If you are not praying directly to God/Jesus, you are praying to a demon. It's really that straight forward.
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:26
How do protestants argue against james 2:26
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 19:26
James 2:26 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<26> For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from works is dead.
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:27
What do protestants, atheists and jews have in common
serpente482
How do protestants argue against james 2:26
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 19:27
How does this tie into what I am saying exactly? Our works are birthed from our love for Christ.
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:27
They all call mary a whore
serpente482
They all call mary a whore
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 19:27
Please pinpoint the exact moment in the chat where I called the mother Mary a whore.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
How does this tie into what I am saying exactly? Our works are birthed from our love for Christ.
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:27
Because protestantism is the devils will
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Why would God want a divided Church
19:29
Just look at what protestantism brought
19:29
Argue how is it God's will
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Secularism started with Luther
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 19:30
Serp you've bounced back and forth over multiple points and I do not see how they tie in with what I am saying.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Serp you've bounced back and forth over multiple points and I do not see how they tie in with what I am saying.
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:30
Mikko has already replied to you multiple times, with long ass texts and you keep ignoring it
19:30
You are blinded
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
If you are not praying directly to God/Jesus, you are praying to a demon. It's really that straight forward.
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:30
I explained to you already why that can't be the case from a biblical standpoint: both Onias and Job practiced it, and Tobit is told by Raphael that he intercedes for him. You would be condemning Job and Onias, who was the spiritual leader of Jerusalem, as idolaters. (edited)
19:31
You call on Mary, or any saint to pray for you. Because they are more righteous than we are, their prayers on our behalf are more likely to be answered. (edited)
Arcane BOT 03/21/2025 19:31
@Мико⚜🐾 has reached level 94. GG!
Мико⚜🐾
You call on Mary, or any saint to pray for you. Because they are more righteous than we are, their prayers on our behalf are more likely to be answered. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:32
As James 5:16 teaches
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 19:32
James 5:16 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<16> Confess therefore your sins one to another: and pray one for another, that you may be saved. For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much.
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:32
James 2:26
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 19:32
James 2:26 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<26> For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from works is dead.
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:32
How do you change versions
19:32
They say it so weird in that one
19:32
In spanish is as clear as day
19:32
Santiago 2:26
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 19:33
James 2:26 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<26> For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from works is dead.
Мико⚜🐾
As James 5:16 teaches
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:33
Scripture is also clear that those in Heaven know what happens on Earth, and whether God has yet to do anything, even Christ says that there is joy in Paradise when someone repents and comes back to God. How is it that the saints and the angels know all that happens on Earth? Catholics and Orthodox would say that it is what happens to you as a result of the deification you undergo. (edited)
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:34
I love James
19:35
His body is in Spain
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:36
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serpente482
Some dude in the 16th century said so okay
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:39
Praying for anyone who reposes, which is what we see the Maccabee warriors do, is going to be futile if you deny in any sense that there is any sort of transitionary period after one dies. You're going to need some sort of concept of purgation, or it makes no sense.
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This is why a lot of Protestants entirely disregard the deuterocanon, because it questions their presuppositions. i.e. anyone who isn't Anglican or Lutheran. (edited)
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:40
All you need is the Bible but everyone reads only what they want and as they want from it
19:40
Protestantism is so dumb
Мико⚜🐾
This is why a lot of Protestants entirely disregard the deuterocanon, because it questions their presuppositions. i.e. anyone who isn't Anglican or Lutheran. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:42
>But Saint Jerome rejected the Deuterocanon!! One man isn't the Church, isn't that why you're not Roman Catholic? Furthermore, he didn't hold to Christians using the Hebrew text and translations of it, he used the Septuagint. He also believed that Psalm 151 was scripture, and the Septuagint additions to Daniel (Bel and the Dragon etc.) They don't have a single person in history who affirmed their canon, so what do they do? Appeal to the opinions of satanic, reactionary (as even Robert admits) Jews who killed Christ. (edited)
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:42
Bunch of guys gather all the information they can about Jesus disciples and converge it into one book as they develop rules and traditions for over a thousand years
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One german guy "aksually i know more"
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One english fattas "i want to divorce my wife"
serpente482
His body is in Spain
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:44
I will see his relics one day
Мико⚜🐾
I will see his relics one day
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:44
Its in spycrabs region
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19:44
I want to do the Camino de Santiago someday
Мико⚜🐾
This is why a lot of Protestants entirely disregard the deuterocanon, because it questions their presuppositions. i.e. anyone who isn't Anglican or Lutheran. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:45
in this instance, a lot find any reason they can to disregard 2 Maccabees because if they believed it was scripture, they would have to give up their pre-existing view on intercession for the reposed (edited)
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:46
They arent reading this
19:46
They will do what protestants do best
19:47
I bought spycrabs doom in exchange he reads the Bible
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Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:47
No need to be mean to them, I was Anglican for 7 years and when I learnt about all of this stuff I didn't accept it all immediately, I took my time to look into the case for it.
19:48
The virginity of Mary thing was easy for me, but I had to read a little bit on how intercession works, theology of icons and statues etc.
Мико⚜🐾
No need to be mean to them, I was Anglican for 7 years and when I learnt about all of this stuff I didn't accept it all immediately, I took my time to look into the case for it.
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:48
Its just annoying, they keep bringing up dumb tiktoks to justify why they right and we wrong and then always refuse to read the defense or even defend their own points
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19:49
Might aswell have a laugh at em
Мико⚜🐾
No need to be mean to them, I was Anglican for 7 years and when I learnt about all of this stuff I didn't accept it all immediately, I took my time to look into the case for it.
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:49
If someone's being dishonest though that's a different story
serpente482 03/21/2025 19:50
Ive heard sky insult the Pope and wish him hell a bunch of times and not a single time he has explained why he actually wants that
19:51
Other than a xitter post with a screenshot from a jewish newspaper
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:51
Well, he gets negative media coverage constantly. And from the perspective of those edgy Nietzschean types, they can't stomach Pope Francis' more "humanitarian" approach and beliefs and see kindness as weakness (edited)
19:53
Meanwhile, the Orthodox Church is left alone by Western media for the most part, any mention of the Russian Church only began as a result of the Russo-Ukranian war. Because Patriarch Kirill has vocally been in support of it. And our church leaders have a variety of approaches, some are like Francis, others are more trad (edited)
serpente482
Ive heard sky insult the Pope and wish him hell a bunch of times and not a single time he has explained why he actually wants that
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 19:55
Point to exactly when I said I wish the Pope to hell.
Мико⚜🐾
Meanwhile, the Orthodox Church is left alone by Western media for the most part, any mention of the Russian Church only began as a result of the Russo-Ukranian war. Because Patriarch Kirill has vocally been in support of it. And our church leaders have a variety of approaches, some are like Francis, others are more trad (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 19:55
Bad actions of the Roman Catholic Church are highlighted and exaggerated in Western "education" constantly, from the Inquisition to their role in slavery and colonialism, sex abuse scandals, meanwhile the Orthodox Church gets off completely scott-free for the serfdom in the Russian Empire, which ultimately led to the Russian Revolution, because the Judeo-Bolsheviks manipulated them. So it makes sense why people have a more negative view of the Caths than Orthos (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 19:55
Show me the exact quote.
19:55
But also idolising one man is weird no matter which way you slice it. I don't idolise my pastors or people in my Church.
19:56
All are equal in the eyes of God.
20:00
Serp, all I have said is that I think worshipping the mother Mary is idolarty. You make the assumption that I called the mother Mary a whore. I say that I don't think the Pope is a great leader and I think idolising him is weird. You say, that I wish he goes to hell. You are making assumptions about protestants being bad people by putting words in my mouth.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Point to exactly when I said I wish the Pope to hell.
serpente482 03/21/2025 20:02
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:03
I don't think youve literally said "I wish he goes to Hell", but you've declared several times that he is a "false teacher" after posting a youtube video or a legacy media article
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
But also idolising one man is weird no matter which way you slice it. I don't idolise my pastors or people in my Church.
serpente482 03/21/2025 20:03
Idolising idolatry
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 20:03
If you are preaching falsehoods and not repenting, then you'll perish. It's not rocket science.
serpente482 03/21/2025 20:03
Its all just a buzzword yall ise
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
If you are preaching falsehoods and not repenting, then you'll perish. It's not rocket science.
serpente482 03/21/2025 20:03
What falsehoods
20:03
You are preaching falsehoods here
serpente482
You are preaching falsehoods here
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 20:04
What am I preaching, exactly?
serpente482 03/21/2025 20:04
And you arent defending them nor thinking if you are wrong
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 20:04
I am making a statement. I'm not preaching it as word.
20:05
If you wanna get down to brass tacks, explain to me why the thief on the cross next to Jesus was welcomed into Heaven?
20:05
Why did the thief get passage to Heaven?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
All are equal in the eyes of God.
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:05
Equal inasmuch as we are all equal in soul and spirit. But we will not be rewarded equally
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
What am I preaching, exactly?
serpente482 03/21/2025 20:05
Mary is idolatry, pope is idolatry, praying for someone other than Jesus is demonic etc etc
Мико⚜🐾
Equal inasmuch as we are all equal in soul and spirit. But we will not be rewarded equally
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:05
Because we are not given the same amount of talents in this life, we are not all asked by God of the same things (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Why did the thief get passage to Heaven?
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:06
He was saved in the Harrowing of Hades along with the Old Testament faithful and the Pagans who accepted him (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
If you wanna get down to brass tacks, explain to me why the thief on the cross next to Jesus was welcomed into Heaven?
serpente482 03/21/2025 20:06
After his soul was cleansed yeah
20:06
Lol
20:06
What kind of place heaven would be if every thief that say "O Lord O Lord" was let through
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 20:06
He was saved because he believed in Christ. It's that simple.
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:07
No.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 20:07
He believed and Christ acknowledged his belief.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
He was saved because he believed in Christ. It's that simple.
serpente482 03/21/2025 20:07
"Simple, its that easy, straightforward"
20:07
Explain your points
20:07
Dont use buzzwords
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 20:07
What is "buzzwordy" about "He believed". (edited)
serpente482 03/21/2025 20:08
He didnt go to heaven directly
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 20:09
"You are not saved by your works but by your faith in Christ", isn't that right? That's what it hinges on, ultimately.
20:09
Do you believe Christ is the son of God who died for your sins?
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:09
What does it mean to "have faith"
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 20:09
To boil it down.
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:09
What does it mean to believe that Christ is the "son of God"?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 20:10
Faith in the idea that our sins were forgiven by Christ paying for them on the Cross. Faith that God came to earth as a limited human so to save us.
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:10
So then one must profess and believe in the correct concept of Christ as well, it's not as simple as a profession of faith already
20:11
Furthermore, is not a profession and declaration of faith an action, a work in and of itself?
serpente482
He didnt go to heaven directly
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:12
Exactly, because Christ went to Hades after his death, as Peter and Paul teaches
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 20:12
Yes. Although we are told that our works do not save us. Yet we are also told to do good works. It is my belief that we do good works because of our love and faith in Christ. If you do not truly believe in Christ, you won't do good works in his name. ("Not everyone who says "Lord Lord" will enter the kingdom of Heaven.", "By their fruits you will know them").
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Yes. Although we are told that our works do not save us. Yet we are also told to do good works. It is my belief that we do good works because of our love and faith in Christ. If you do not truly believe in Christ, you won't do good works in his name. ("Not everyone who says "Lord Lord" will enter the kingdom of Heaven.", "By their fruits you will know them").
serpente482 03/21/2025 20:14
So you need works to truly have faith
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:14
Ephesians 2:8-10
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<8> For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God; <9> Not of works, that no man may glory. <10> For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus in good works, which God hath prepared that we should walk in them.
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Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:16
We do not boast of works, not because they do not matter, not because that it is not through them that we are saved and please God, but because it is only as a result of God's grace that we perform these things
20:16
That we profess faith in Him
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 20:17
I don't do good works because I think they somehow undo my sins, they don't. I do good works because I truly believe in Christ and what he stands for. But also because by reflecting Christ, it is my hope that those who see my works will see Christ.
serpente482
So you need works to truly have faith
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:17
To profess faith is going to be an action, a work in and of itself. The issue here is only going to be if one forgets that we only do good because God assists us with His grace
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I don't do good works because I think they somehow undo my sins, they don't. I do good works because I truly believe in Christ and what he stands for. But also because by reflecting Christ, it is my hope that those who see my works will see Christ.
serpente482 03/21/2025 20:20
So works are indeed part of faith
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I don't do good works because I think they somehow undo my sins, they don't. I do good works because I truly believe in Christ and what he stands for. But also because by reflecting Christ, it is my hope that those who see my works will see Christ.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 20:20
I go in circles constantly with an atheist friend of mine over this. It's a bit weird because the way we talk about it, it suggests to me that he doesn't seem to completely disregard the idea that when he dies, he will be judged. I try to use the comparison of being in a court room before a judge because you murdered someone. "But you see your honour. I gave to the homeless so you should let me off for the murder charge."
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Yes. Although we are told that our works do not save us. Yet we are also told to do good works. It is my belief that we do good works because of our love and faith in Christ. If you do not truly believe in Christ, you won't do good works in his name. ("Not everyone who says "Lord Lord" will enter the kingdom of Heaven.", "By their fruits you will know them").
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:20
I don't think we disagree on this, what we disagree on is the moment in which Dismas, the thief, was saved (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
I don't think we disagree on this, what we disagree on is the moment in which Dismas, the thief, was saved (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 20:21
I think faith is like the entry gate to being saved.
20:21
The thief had faith that Christ was God so he was at least given the chance to prove that before Heaven.
Мико⚜🐾
We do not boast of works, not because they do not matter, not because that it is not through them that we are saved and please God, but because it is only as a result of God's grace that we perform these things
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:22
Salvation for Eastern Orthodox and Catholics is not going to be a 1 time event unlike what a few folk believe, not this merely legal justification, but a continuous process as we grow in Christ and shed our worldliness in this life, before we move onto the next (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
The thief had faith that Christ was God so he was at least given the chance to prove that before Heaven.
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:23
Yeah
serpente482
So works are indeed part of faith
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:25
Luther's and the Augsburg theologians' insistence on sola fide is ultimately going to be a reaction to what he saw around him, a forgetting of the fact that while works are a part of the process of salvation for virtually all Christians, they are only performed as a result of God's assistance (edited)
20:25
Sola fide when understood correctly isn't going to be at odds with our view, I've spoken to very high level Anglican and Lutherans before on this issue
Мико⚜🐾
Sola fide when understood correctly isn't going to be at odds with our view, I've spoken to very high level Anglican and Lutherans before on this issue
serpente482 03/21/2025 20:26
I see
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:27
It's later Protestants that diverged from the correct view however
serpente482 03/21/2025 20:27
So they believe in works or not?
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:29
They (should) believe that it is a necessity that supernatural goods proceed as a result of true faith
20:30
However, quite a lot do not, and think that profession of faith is enough, and then that's it. You don't grow in Christ anymore than that. No progression in holiness, just a legal document that says "I am saved now" (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
However, quite a lot do not, and think that profession of faith is enough, and then that's it. You don't grow in Christ anymore than that. No progression in holiness, just a legal document that says "I am saved now" (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:32
Because of their belief that Man can be saved by profession of faith alone, this leads them to believe that Man can be saved without baptism
20:32
but that's going to contradict John 3:5 and the historical interp of that verse
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 20:32
John 3:5 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<5> Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/21/2025 20:34
"Once saved, always saved."
20:34
Yes/No?
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 20:40
I'd disagree with that statement, because one can fall away from the faith forever after being joined to the Church, being baptised, and even doing good works for Christ's sake during that certain time
20:42
If such a person by necessity "never truly believed", well then, we would have to accept that the sacraments are conferred unto disbelievers, that those who are not of God can perform works identical to those of God, and that people, including us, could be completely misled about our salvation status. (edited)
20:44
What was intended to be an assurance of one's salvation actually leads to greater uncertainty about one's salvation, and simultaneously would seem to contradict Paul (Hebrews 6:4-7, Romans 11:16-22 where he talks about us being grafted in and out of the Old Testament tree) and make us unable to discern who is good and bad in our lives (Matthew 7:15)
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Hebrews 6:4-7 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<4> For it is impossible for those who were once illuminated, have tasted also the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, <5> Have moreover tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, <6> And are fallen away: to be renewed again to penance, crucifying again to themselves the Son of God, and making him a mockery. <7> For the earth that drinketh in the rain which cometh often upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is tilled, receiveth blessing from God.
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Romans 11:16-22 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<16> For if the firstfruit be holy, so is the lump also: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. <17> And if some of the branches be broken, and thou, being a wild olive, art ingrafted in them, and art made partaker of the root, and of the fatness of the olive tree, <18> Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. <19> Thou wilt say then: The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. <20> Well: because of unbelief they were broken off. But thou standest by faith: be not highminded, but fear. <21> For if God hath not spared the natural branches, fear lest perhaps he also spare not thee. <22> See then the goodness and the severity of God: towards them indeed that are fallen, the severity; but towards thee, the goodness of God, if thou abide in goodness, otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
20:44
Matthew 7:15 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<15> Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
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Matthew 7:16
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Matthew 7:16 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<16> By their fruits you shall know them. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Yes/No?
serpente482 03/21/2025 20:47
No?
20:48
One can stop believing
serpente482
Why pray for your dead grandma after she has passed away if she is dead
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:03
Praying to God for somone is different from praying to someone
VikingTiger6
Praying to God for somone is different from praying to someone
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:05
Why, where do you think dead people go to
serpente482
How do protestants argue against james 2:26
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:05
Romans 4:4-5
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Romans 4:4-5 - King James Version (KJV)
<4> Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. <5> But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:07
I think somone who is saved will naturally have works, but to say you need to do works to saved is rejecting Christ's free gift of salvation
serpente482
Why, where do you think dead people go to
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:08
If the bible says I can pray directly to God and he will hear it, I have no need to pray to anyone but God
23:09
Because he knows all
VikingTiger6
Romans 4:4-5
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:09
That has nothing to do, thats talking about works without faith if im not mistaken, one thing doesnt remove the other
23:09
The Bible doesnt contradict itself
VikingTiger6
If the bible says I can pray directly to God and he will hear it, I have no need to pray to anyone but God
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:10
Why would you ask someone to pray for you
23:10
Being a friend or family
23:10
Or at Church
23:10
If God is all you need
23:10
Just you praying to him will be enough
23:10
Why do people ask for prayers for them?
serpente482
That has nothing to do, thats talking about works without faith if im not mistaken, one thing doesnt remove the other
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:11
The one who worketh not, his faith is counted as righteousness, just as Abraham was counted righteous before he did any works
VikingTiger6
The one who worketh not, his faith is counted as righteousness, just as Abraham was counted righteous before he did any works
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:11
Yeah i read what it put
23:11
Again it doesnt make what james said incorrect
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:12
Well its obvious somone who is saved will naturally have works
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:12
Are works part of faith
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:13
No, they're a product of faith
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:13
So if you say you have faith but dont have works
23:13
Thats because you dont have faith
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:14
No, when Abraham first believed he had no works and was still righteous
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:15
Wdym he had no works
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:15
When he first believed God, he hadnt done any works, he just had faith
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:16
So?
23:16
When you just get to the swimming pool you arent wet yet
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Cuz you just arrived
23:16
There was no time to jump on the pool
23:17
Same as works with faith
23:17
If it has just started there has been no time for works
23:17
Bit after that there will be works
23:17
Thats why someone with faith will also have works
23:17
And someone without faith who claims to have faith wont have works
23:19
Which is what James says
23:19
James 2:26
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James 2:26 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<26> For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so faith apart from works is dead.
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:28
I believe somone who is saved will do works naturally, but I don't think you're saved by works Genesis 15:6 says he was righteous for his faith, not his works
BibleBot BOT 03/21/2025 23:28
Genesis 15:6 - King James Version (KJV)
<6> And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.
VikingTiger6
I believe somone who is saved will do works naturally, but I don't think you're saved by works Genesis 15:6 says he was righteous for his faith, not his works
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:28
So obviously somone who is "saved" not having any works is concerning
VikingTiger6
So obviously somone who is "saved" not having any works is concerning
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:30
So why all that obsession over faith without works
23:30
If you believe faith has to have works
23:30
If its real
serpente482
If you believe faith has to have works
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:31
I don't believe faith has to have works, I believe people who have faith will do works because God will work through them
VikingTiger6
I don't believe faith has to have works, I believe people who have faith will do works because God will work through them
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:32
So you believe faith doesnt have to have works but faith does have to have works?
23:32
Huh
serpente482
So why all that obsession over faith without works
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:32
Because it shows us that its God who saves us, not ourselves because we could never live up to the law
VikingTiger6
Because it shows us that its God who saves us, not ourselves because we could never live up to the law
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:32
Yeah? Who goes against that?
23:33
If catholicism was a giant, protestants will charge against a windmill and hit themselves very hard
serpente482
So you believe faith doesnt have to have works but faith does have to have works?
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:34
No I just believe works will come naturally after salvation, if you die before you do any works but you're saved, you're still saved
23:35
God sent angels to save Lot because he thought he was righteous because he had a relationship with God
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:36
So
23:36
So how is your belief different to those of catholics and orthos?
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 23:37
I mean, for Christians, actions such as uniting oneself to Christ's body, being baptised, receiving communion are going to be actions which proceed from true faith that are essential for salvation. What applied to Abraham does not apply to us
Мико⚜🐾
I mean, for Christians, actions such as uniting oneself to Christ's body, being baptised, receiving communion are going to be actions which proceed from true faith that are essential for salvation. What applied to Abraham does not apply to us
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 23:38
It's going to be the case that as a result of true faith, righteousness is accredited to you, but that's not going to be the end all be all in your salvation story with God
23:38
You still transform in Christ past that point in which you truly believe in and trust in God, see spiritual growth (edited)
VikingTiger6
Praying to God for somone is different from praying to someone
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 23:40
What do you define prayer to be
Мико⚜🐾
I mean, for Christians, actions such as uniting oneself to Christ's body, being baptised, receiving communion are going to be actions which proceed from true faith that are essential for salvation. What applied to Abraham does not apply to us
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:41
I think what applied to Abraham applys to us, notice how in hebrews Jesus is the greater melkizadek
VikingTiger6
I think what applied to Abraham applys to us, notice how in hebrews Jesus is the greater melkizadek
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:42
We arent jews
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:42
Didn't Abraham see Jesus?
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:42
We dont have to eat only koser meat
VikingTiger6
Didn't Abraham see Jesus?
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:42
Jesus is the son
23:42
Not the father or the Holy Spirit
serpente482
We arent jews
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:42
Neither was Abraham or melkizadek
VikingTiger6
Neither was Abraham or melkizadek
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:43
We dont actually know anything about them
23:43
Because the old testament was shared by mouth for thousands of years
serpente482
Jesus is the son
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:44
John 8:56
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John 8:56 - King James Version (KJV)
<56> Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
serpente482
We dont actually know anything about them
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:44
Well, we know they aren't jews because they predate Israel
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serpente482 03/21/2025 23:45
Thats talking about heaven
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:45
Some scholars suggest one of the angels Abraham met was an appearance of Jesus, similar to how Daniel met Jesus
VikingTiger6
Some scholars suggest one of the angels Abraham met was an appearance of Jesus, similar to how Daniel met Jesus
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:45
Based on what
VikingTiger6
I think what applied to Abraham applys to us, notice how in hebrews Jesus is the greater melkizadek
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 23:45
Yeah, but Abraham paying tithe to Melchizedek doesn't really change the fact that we are under a different covenant than he is, in which baptism has been instituted as the fulfillment of what was given to us prior in Moses' covenant, circumcision (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Yeah, but Abraham paying tithe to Melchizedek doesn't really change the fact that we are under a different covenant than he is, in which baptism has been instituted as the fulfillment of what was given to us prior in Moses' covenant, circumcision (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 23:45
An action that is performed, or performed for you which designated us as one of God's
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:46
The old testament is not completely accurate thats why Jesus was needed
Мико⚜🐾
Yeah, but Abraham paying tithe to Melchizedek doesn't really change the fact that we are under a different covenant than he is, in which baptism has been instituted as the fulfillment of what was given to us prior in Moses' covenant, circumcision (edited)
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:46
Well personally think, baptism circumcision, tithing, and all these rituals are about faith, the same faith that Abraham had, this whole thinking of things being different for Abraham is why early attackers of Christianity accused Christianity of novelty
serpente482
The old testament is not completely accurate thats why Jesus was needed
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:47
So you don't believe the bible?
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 23:47
I think he means that the OT isnt perfect, and that Christ needed to fulfil it (edited)
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:47
Then what good are your traditions if they're based on the bible?
23:47
Jesus always mentions the old testament
VikingTiger6
So you don't believe the bible?
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:48
Do you believe there were people who lived 800 years
VikingTiger6
Jesus always mentions the old testament
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:48
Oh geez, i wonder what testament he should have used
serpente482
Do you believe there were people who lived 800 years
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:48
Yes, the Bible states that people die so young now because of diseases being put into the world and sin
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:48
Idk why he didnt mention peter
23:48
Oh wait
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:48
So its obvious that every generation gets sicker
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:48
The New testament is after Jesus
23:49
And the jews he was trying to convert
23:49
Believed in the Old testament!
serpente482
Oh geez, i wonder what testament he should have used
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:49
Yea because the old testament is truth
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:49
Oh wow now it makes so much sense why he talked so much about it
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:50
Well you claim it to be inaccurate
VikingTiger6
Because it shows us that its God who saves us, not ourselves because we could never live up to the law
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 23:50
No one actually denies this though
VikingTiger6
Yea because the old testament is truth
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:50
Then why did Jesus come and changed things that were stablished there?
VikingTiger6
Well you claim it to be inaccurate
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:50
When we know all scripture is breathed out by God
VikingTiger6
Well you claim it to be inaccurate
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 23:50
inasmuch as its not meant to be read literally
23:50
in every verse
23:50
not even those in antiquity and pre-antiquity would have read it in such an analytical manner
Мико⚜🐾
No one actually denies this though
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:50
Well thats why I don't like all this works talk because the way many catholics frame it makes the focus on you instead of God
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:51
The Old Testament, specially the first books were passed from mouth to mouth for centuries and the first recorded actual writing of it was from like 700 BC
Мико⚜🐾
inasmuch as its not meant to be read literally
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:51
Well genesis is retelling a history, it should be taken as such
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:51
I trust the word of God
serpente482
The Old Testament, specially the first books were passed from mouth to mouth for centuries and the first recorded actual writing of it was from like 700 BC
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:51
Isn't God amazing that he preserved his word through all this
23:52
Jesus said heaven and earth may pass away but my word will remain
VikingTiger6
Isn't God amazing that he preserved his word through all this
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:52
So how old is Earth
Мико⚜🐾
No one actually denies this though
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 23:52
It's going to be the case that all of our theologians clearly teach that we are only able to perform good works as a result of God's grace, it's also in our councils as well
serpente482
So how old is Earth
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:52
Probably somewhere between 8000 to 10000 years
23:52
I'm not too sure, theyres alot of debate
VikingTiger6
Probably somewhere between 8000 to 10000 years
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:53
Oh no
Мико⚜🐾
It's going to be the case that all of our theologians clearly teach that we are only able to perform good works as a result of God's grace, it's also in our councils as well
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:53
Then tell that to the modern church
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:53
He is a creationist
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:53
Yes I believe the bible
23:53
You think that the God who made a man from a rib couldn't make the earth in 7 days?
VikingTiger6
Yes I believe the bible
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:54
Do you also believe the metaphors Jesus used to have happened actually
serpente482
Do you also believe the metaphors Jesus used to have happened actually
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:54
No, because its clear they're metaphors, unlike genesis which retells events
VikingTiger6
You think that the God who made a man from a rib couldn't make the earth in 7 days?
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:54
How long does a day last
Мико⚜🐾
not even those in antiquity and pre-antiquity would have read it in such an analytical manner
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 23:54
For instance, the harsh punishments for breaking Mosaic law are not and were never enacted in every instance whenever someone transgressed the Law, but we were told that these things were deserving of death not only because they technically are in God's eyes (although He is merciful to us), but because He is trying to stress the brevity of sin to the reader.
Мико⚜🐾
For instance, the harsh punishments for breaking Mosaic law are not and were never enacted in every instance whenever someone transgressed the Law, but we were told that these things were deserving of death not only because they technically are in God's eyes (although He is merciful to us), but because He is trying to stress the brevity of sin to the reader.
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:55
I'm confused mikko, dumb this down for me
Мико⚜🐾
For instance, the harsh punishments for breaking Mosaic law are not and were never enacted in every instance whenever someone transgressed the Law, but we were told that these things were deserving of death not only because they technically are in God's eyes (although He is merciful to us), but because He is trying to stress the brevity of sin to the reader.
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 23:55
Canon law of the Church does the same thing, heck, even secular law does the same thing. Its not going to be the case that the maximum penalty is going to be incurred for failing to follow that law
VikingTiger6
I'm confused mikko, dumb this down for me
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:56
Do you deserve death for gooning to averi?
23:56
If not the Old Testament is inaccurate
23:56
Leviticus 18:23
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Leviticus 18:23 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<23> And you shall not lie with any beast and defile yourself with it, neither shall any woman give herself to a beast to lie with it: it is perversion.
Мико⚜🐾
Canon law of the Church does the same thing, heck, even secular law does the same thing. Its not going to be the case that the maximum penalty is going to be incurred for failing to follow that law
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:56
Well obviously the law exists to convict us of our sin and point us to Jesus, thats why people like John the Baptist waited their whole lives to see him because they knew he had to come
serpente482
Do you deserve death for gooning to averi?
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:57
Yes I do deserve death because I'm a sinner
VikingTiger6
I'm confused mikko, dumb this down for me
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 23:57
What I'm saying is that when we read the Law of Moses, for a lot of things that are sinful, we see that there are harsh punishments, right? For instance, if you strike your mother and/or father, the prescribed punishment is death.
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:57
So because the israelites were lenient on the law we shouldn't trust genesis?
Мико⚜🐾
What I'm saying is that when we read the Law of Moses, for a lot of things that are sinful, we see that there are harsh punishments, right? For instance, if you strike your mother and/or father, the prescribed punishment is death.
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 23:58
However, we know that the Jews understood Mosaic Law to be saying that such a thing was deserving of death, not that it necessarily warranted death at all times.
VikingTiger6
Yes I do deserve death because I'm a sinner
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:58
But Jesus changed that and made death not necessary because there was forgiveness
23:58
Why did Jesus not come sooner?
23:58
Why didnt Jesus come with Adam and Eve
serpente482
But Jesus changed that and made death not necessary because there was forgiveness
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:59
Well thats why he had to die on the cross because the price of sin is death
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:59
If God is all knowing and his word is unmutable, why didnt the New Testament came with Adam and Eve
serpente482
Why did Jesus not come sooner?
VikingTiger6 03/21/2025 23:59
Because God had to set things up to further glorify himself
serpente482 03/21/2025 23:59
Yknow why
23:59
Because Jesus came in the right moment
23:59
And everything prior was setting up his coming
VikingTiger6
So because the israelites were lenient on the law we shouldn't trust genesis?
Мико⚜🐾 03/21/2025 23:59
I'm just pointing out to you the larger part within the Pentateuch, Mosaic law, in which we do not read the Bible in a plain, analytic way and treat it as a non-fiction science book
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:00
Jews were chosen to have some previous knowledge of God
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:00
Yea, God knew the perfect moment, but I still think that everyone who is saved in the old testament is saved not because of the law but because they were waiting for Jesus
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:00
And Jesus came once his word could be listened in the whole world and not just some tribes
VikingTiger6
Yea, God knew the perfect moment, but I still think that everyone who is saved in the old testament is saved not because of the law but because they were waiting for Jesus
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:00
So what
00:00
He says that in the Bible
VikingTiger6
You think that the God who made a man from a rib couldn't make the earth in 7 days?
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 00:00
God is capable of doing such things, that's not what is being denied, however it's going to be the case that from the beginning people have had more allegorical and more literal readings of the Genesis account of creation (edited)
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:01
The Old Testament is not as accurate as the New Testament
serpente482
And Jesus came once his word could be listened in the whole world and not just some tribes
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:01
There were people outside of israel who knew of God, Job is a famous example
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:01
The Old Testament is the beta testing of christianity
00:01
New Testament is full release
00:01
God used Jews to be the people who first discover his word
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00:01
And not all Jews followed it
Мико⚜🐾
God is capable of doing such things, that's not what is being denied, however it's going to be the case that from the beginning people have had more allegorical and more literal readings of the Genesis account of creation (edited)
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:02
I'm willing to believe that maybe there's more between the lines but when it says somone lived to 900 im gonna believe it
serpente482
The Old Testament is not as accurate as the New Testament
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:02
Then you charge God with innacuracy
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:02
Because they too believed the Old Testament to be all they needed
VikingTiger6
Then you charge God with innacuracy
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:02
I charge men
00:02
Is KJV as accurate as the hebrew version?
00:02
Or the greek or latin?
00:03
Or it is slightly less accurate
VikingTiger6
Then you charge God with innacuracy
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 00:03
He's not as great with his words, but what he is saying is that God revealed Himself to us progressively, over a period of time
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:03
No, you're looking at it wrong if you nit pick translation
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 00:03
Moses did not know as much about God as John did
00:04
Hebrews 1:1-2
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Hebrews 1:1-2 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<1> God, who, at sundry times and in divers manners, spoke in times past to the fathers by the prophets, last of all, <2> In these days hath spoken to us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the world.
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:04
The bible says all scripture is breathed out by God, it doesn't matter if your Bible is Latin or English
VikingTiger6
No, you're looking at it wrong if you nit pick translation
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:04
Old Testament gathered things with less evidence we have today about things that happened over equally long periods of time
00:04
And was shared by mouth
00:05
If things can get less accurate from translation to translation
00:05
Imagine from mouth to mouth over thousands of years
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00:05
The word of God is precious, the word of man is faulty
00:06
Earth wasnt created in less than 200 hours
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 00:06
I mean, that's true, people shared the majority of the Jewish tradition most likely by word of mouth, as was the case with all other religion during that time. And a lot of text has been lost, for example Solomon's Psalms. even texts that are mentioned in the Bible like the book of Jasher (edited)
00:06
I wouldn't go so far as to say that the years are wholly inaccurate though, just that they are possibly symbolic (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
I wouldn't go so far as to say that the years are wholly inaccurate though, just that they are possibly symbolic (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 00:06
Given that Church Fathers generally go either way on this
00:07
Some holding to the years being literal, and then appealing to God saying in Genesis after a certain point that Man will no longer normally live to be beyond 120
00:07
Others believing in allegorical meaning, and appealing to scientific understanding in their day
VikingTiger6
There were people outside of israel who knew of God, Job is a famous example
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:07
And there were people of Israel who knew about moloch and even idolatre him
00:08
Different cultures werent secrets among foreginers
serpente482
Earth wasnt created in less than 200 hours
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 00:08
I mean, some Christians believe that, others don't
00:09
Could God do such a thing? Of course Does that seem to contradict our empirical observation of the world currently? Yes But could that be wrong currently? Also yes
Мико⚜🐾
I mean, some Christians believe that, others don't
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:09
Yeah well, not to offend, but those christians are just paranoids who drag our reputation to the ground
00:09
Science doesnt contradict religion
serpente482
Yeah well, not to offend, but those christians are just paranoids who drag our reputation to the ground
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 00:10
Church Fathers also did believe these things though, keep that in mind
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:10
But science does contradict what those guys think
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 00:10
So they're not necessarily entirely wrong
00:10
Where they err is when they say that this cannot be theological opinion
Мико⚜🐾
Church Fathers also did believe these things though, keep that in mind
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:10
Yes, same as people from 2 thousands years from now will know more about the world than us today
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Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 00:10
And those who take an allegorical reading are conceding to the wisdom of the age or whatever
serpente482
Yes, same as people from 2 thousands years from now will know more about the world than us today
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 00:11
Precisely, and we will continue to keep on learning into the future
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:11
Romans 12:1-2
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Romans 12:1-2 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
The New Life in Christ
<1> I appeal to you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. <2> Do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that you may prove what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
VikingTiger6
No, you're looking at it wrong if you nit pick translation
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 00:13
There are definitely translations that are worse than others in terms of either being faithful to the manuscript itself, or in teaching the intended doctrine those who are undertaking the effort want to push
serpente482
Old Testament gathered things with less evidence we have today about things that happened over equally long periods of time
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:18
We keep finding archeological evidence of the things the old testament says, to say its inaccurate is to say God doesn't keep his word
00:19
The reason why Noah's descendants became pagans was because they didn't maintain their relationship with God, thats why their origin storys are vaguely like genesis
00:19
Thats why we have a babylonian flood myth because pagans warped the word because God wasn't with them
Мико⚜🐾
There are definitely translations that are worse than others in terms of either being faithful to the manuscript itself, or in teaching the intended doctrine those who are undertaking the effort want to push
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:21
Gods word stays the same to those he draws close
serpente482
Yes, same as people from 2 thousands years from now will know more about the world than us today
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:21
Bible says nothing new under the sun
VikingTiger6
We keep finding archeological evidence of the things the old testament says, to say its inaccurate is to say God doesn't keep his word
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:21
What about the archaeologigal evidence of dinosaurs
00:22
Where they aliens or something
serpente482
What about the archaeologigal evidence of dinosaurs
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:22
Leviathan, dragons, mistaken identity (edited)
VikingTiger6
Leviathan, dragons, mistaken identity (edited)
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:23
Mistaken how, if its the word of God
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:23
Nebraska man was a pigs tooth made to be a new hominid
serpente482
Mistaken how, if its the word of God
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:23
No, I mean man mistakes a bone to be something of his imagination
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:23
So dinosaurs are the imagination and dragons arent
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:24
Dragons are in the bible, dinosaurs arent
00:24
There probably were animals in the past we don't have today
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:24
Dinosaurs are in museums, dragons arent
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:24
Dinosaurs are dragons
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:24
Yeah
00:24
Thats what is based on
00:24
But dinosaurs existed
00:25
Dragons are folklore
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:25
Just as the flood existed, we find most fossils in the aftermath of a great flood
00:25
What else could cover trees taller than men in enough dirt to preserve them for 1000s of years
VikingTiger6
Just as the flood existed, we find most fossils in the aftermath of a great flood
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:26
I have one in my room, thats because where i live, millions of years ago, was a sea
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:26
What if it was a sea 1000s of years ago, the world obviously changed alot since the flood
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/22/2025 00:27
Gonna keep it real with you brehs. Temptation's been kicking my arse lately. Ain't fallen into it (yet) but it has been pretty overwhelming.
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:27
We have new islands forming today and old ones eroding away
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Gonna keep it real with you brehs. Temptation's been kicking my arse lately. Ain't fallen into it (yet) but it has been pretty overwhelming.
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:27
Temptation is a bitch
VikingTiger6
What if it was a sea 1000s of years ago, the world obviously changed alot since the flood
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:28
So why does science say the world is millions of years old
serpente482
So why does science say the world is millions of years old
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:28
Because mans knowledge is flawed due to sin
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:28
And has showed proofs of it
VikingTiger6
Because mans knowledge is flawed due to sin
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:29
So can your knowledge be flawed
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:29
Romans 1 22-25
serpente482
So can your knowledge be flawed
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:29
Yes
00:29
Thats why I need the bible
00:29
Because God is the only thing not flawed
00:29
His word is incorruptible and always true
VikingTiger6
Thats why I need the bible
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:30
Do you eat koser meat only
serpente482
Temptation is a bitch
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/22/2025 00:30
It's the worst because it completely hijacks something that was made to feel special and incredible and twists it into a selfish pleasure. It's even harder to fight against when you've had a history of consuming porn.
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:30
Or behead goats
00:30
The bible tells you to do it
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
It's the worst because it completely hijacks something that was made to feel special and incredible and twists it into a selfish pleasure. It's even harder to fight against when you've had a history of consuming porn.
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:30
I know
00:30
Im focusing on reaching 20 days without gooning
serpente482
Do you eat koser meat only
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:30
Jesus said all food is ok
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:30
Im on day 12
00:30
And is getting hard
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VikingTiger6
Jesus said all food is ok
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:31
And why does the Old Testament say the opposite
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:31
I've been going 2 weeks, and I'm plagued by awfull thoughts, and I've looked at things I shouldn't, I hate myself
serpente482
And why does the Old Testament say the opposite
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:31
Because God wanted his people to look different at that time
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/22/2025 00:31
I actually don't know when the last time I relapsed was. It was definitely last year, that much I can say for certain. Janurary/Feburary went by fine with few temptations but these last 2 weeks the temptations have gotten pretty bad.
VikingTiger6
Because God wanted his people to look different at that time
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:32
So the Old Testament view is not exactly the view God wanted us to have today
serpente482
So the Old Testament view is not exactly the view God wanted us to have today
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:33
No, the old testament view is a more literal way of trying to show the truth to people, all these rules existed because of problems in men's hearts
00:33
I think the old testament has the same message
00:33
Its constantly referencing the new testament
00:33
And its prophecizing
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:35
I think we can never know
00:36
The New Testament i can say without doubts i believe 100%
00:36
The Old Testament may be too influenced by man mistakes
00:36
Thats why Jews arent going to heaven
serpente482
I think we can never know
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:38
thats true becuase were sinfull men
serpente482
The Old Testament may be too influenced by man mistakes
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:38
if i believed this i wouldnt believe the new testament because the new testament is based on the old
serpente482
Thats why Jews arent going to heaven
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:39
i figure they arent going to heaven because they lack the same relationship with God that abraham or moses did and they cant have it until they accept Christ (edited)
VikingTiger6
if i believed this i wouldnt believe the new testament because the new testament is based on the old
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:43
I believe the New Testament because of Jesus
00:44
I do believe in a lot from the Old Testament
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:44
Jesus was in the old testament too
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:45
Maybe or maybe not
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:45
you know alot of jews were converted because early evangelists showed them where in the old testament predicted jesus
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:45
Ive heard differing opinions regarding those verses
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:45
have you read daniel?
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:46
Yes, but i dont remember it
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:46
Daniel 10:4-6 - "Now on the twenty-fourth day of the first month, as I was by the side of the great river, that is, the Tigris, I lifted my eyes and looked, and behold, a certain man clothed in linen, whose waist was girded with gold of Uphaz! His body was like beryl, his face like the appearance of lightning, his eyes like torches of fire, his arms and feet like burnished bronze in color, and the sound of his words like the voice of a multitude." (KJV)
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here i found it
BibleBot BOT 03/22/2025 00:46
Daniel 10:4-6 - King James Version (KJV)
<4> And in the four and twentieth day of the first month, as I was by the side of the great river, which is Hiddekel; <5> Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz: <6> His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:47
i think the old and new testament prove each other and compliment each other as iron sharpens iron
VikingTiger6
Daniel 10:4-6 - "Now on the twenty-fourth day of the first month, as I was by the side of the great river, that is, the Tigris, I lifted my eyes and looked, and behold, a certain man clothed in linen, whose waist was girded with gold of Uphaz! His body was like beryl, his face like the appearance of lightning, his eyes like torches of fire, his arms and feet like burnished bronze in color, and the sound of his words like the voice of a multitude." (KJV)
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:47
Jesus wasnt born then
00:47
Jesus, the flesh, was born from Mary
00:48
Jesus existed metaphysically back then
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:48
Jesus said "before abraham was I am"
VikingTiger6
i think the old and new testament prove each other and compliment each other as iron sharpens iron
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:49
Then why does the Old Testament command some things regarding food and the New Testament doesnt
00:49
Same as with circumcission
VikingTiger6
Jesus said "before abraham was I am"
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:49
Because he is God
00:50
But Jesus was born from Mary
00:50
The human body was born 2000 years ago
00:51
Seeing a well dressed man with who follows God doesnt mean that it is Jesus
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:52
yea but he still existed before mary gave birth to him, how else could daniel meet him?
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:52
Because whether he did or not it is not known and you just believe that because you want to believe that
00:52
Jesus never said he met Daniel in the new Testament
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:53
i dont think he was in the flesh in the old testament but i think he was present and even interacted with people in the old testament
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:54
You just want it to be true because he can fit there, if it was Jesus, all people among all Churches will agree on that
VikingTiger6
i dont think he was in the flesh in the old testament but i think he was present and even interacted with people in the old testament
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:54
You think, yet you have nothing to verify it or even imply it, other than stuff that just sounds good
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:56
i mean we know God the father is invisible, then how did God show himself to abraham?
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genesis 18
00:57
Genesis 18
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serpente482 03/22/2025 00:57
You need to add more numbers
00:57
Also God can be seen thus he is not invisible
00:57
He showed himself to Moses
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 00:57
yea because of Jesus
serpente482 03/22/2025 00:58
He is omnipotent
00:58
He can show himself however he sees
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As a voice in the sky
00:58
As the holy ghost
01:00
Do you believe you can misinterpret the Bible?
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 01:01
yes
01:01
because im a sinfull man
serpente482
Im on day 12
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/22/2025 01:01
I pray that the Lord calls out to you in those moments of temptation and doesn't let you fall into Satan's traps.
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01:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQBM9Xvsk7M
Timeisnear
Story of a Muslim Girl who was saved by Jesus from being killed !!
VikingTiger6
because im a sinfull man
serpente482 03/22/2025 01:02
So can your creationist beliefs be false?
serpente482
So can your creationist beliefs be false?
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 01:03
yea they could be, but im still gonna trust the bible
VikingTiger6
yea they could be, but im still gonna trust the bible
serpente482 03/22/2025 01:03
Are you trusting the Bible or yourself
01:03
Are you really understanding Genesis
01:04
Isnt the let there be light the Big Bang?
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 01:04
maybe
serpente482 03/22/2025 01:05
Is the 7 days 7 rotations of the Earth or is another time measure God called days because we couldnt understand?
01:05
Can we understand all what God wants us to understand?
01:06
And if we cant, can he maybe dumb it down for us in a way that we, when we know more, can still find truth in his words?
serpente482
Can we understand all what God wants us to understand?
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 01:06
probably not, but when his word says that different symbiotic life were made on different days those days cant be very long or else those creatures would die
VikingTiger6
probably not, but when his word says that different symbiotic life were made on different days those days cant be very long or else those creatures would die
serpente482 03/22/2025 01:07
Are those days here on Earth or in heaven?
serpente482
And if we cant, can he maybe dumb it down for us in a way that we, when we know more, can still find truth in his words?
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 01:07
see this thinking trys to say that people in the past were stupid and that somehow modern man is smarter than we were in the past
serpente482 03/22/2025 01:07
Because Genesis is set on paradise until Eve bites the apple
01:07
And then we are thrown into Earth
VikingTiger6
see this thinking trys to say that people in the past were stupid and that somehow modern man is smarter than we were in the past
serpente482 03/22/2025 01:07
It means we have studied the world more
serpente482
Are those days here on Earth or in heaven?
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 01:07
im pretty sure they relative to the creation of the earth but i should probably reread genesis
serpente482 03/22/2025 01:08
Romans 12:2
BibleBot BOT 03/22/2025 01:08
Romans 12:2 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<2> Do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that you may prove what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
serpente482 03/22/2025 01:08
I believe this is what romans tries to say
01:09
Do not be conformed to this world, he means the understanding of the world in Roman times
01:09
Renewal of your mind is just discovering more about the world
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And what we discover doesnt go against the word of God
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 01:10
i thought it was more about discovery of God
serpente482 03/22/2025 01:11
I believe the Bible doesnt explain all the things. It cant, its too short. Its just a manual with formulas and rules to achieve it but lets the discovery of the foundation of those rules and formulas to us
01:11
Thats why Jesus spoke a lot with metaphors
01:12
To give the general ideas
01:12
And make it appliable for all situations and ages
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 01:13
well obviously the bibles not gonna be an encyclopedia on everything, but i think it has everything we need in it
serpente482 03/22/2025 01:13
Jesus didnt spoke about all the mysteries of the universe because people werent ready then, we arent ready now, maybe we will never be
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 01:14
i think in heaven all knowledge will be made available to us
serpente482 03/22/2025 01:14
But we understand each time more on our own stride
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I like to think that yes
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But for now
01:14
We understand the universe with science most likely
VikingTiger6 03/22/2025 01:14
i gotta go, good chat, i have alot i need to research now
serpente482 03/22/2025 01:14
Ok
01:14
serpente482
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/22/2025 10:16
Ama be real with you Serp. If you're struggling with lust, having images like these saved on your computer won't help. Even if you try to justify it as not being goonerbait or whatever, it's still placing a bit of the idea in your head which accumulates over time.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Ama be real with you Serp. If you're struggling with lust, having images like these saved on your computer won't help. Even if you try to justify it as not being goonerbait or whatever, it's still placing a bit of the idea in your head which accumulates over time.
serpente482 03/22/2025 11:12
11:12
Furry struggle ended years ago
serpente482
Im focusing on reaching 20 days without gooning
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/22/2025 11:13
?
serpente482 03/22/2025 11:13
The struggle is just having been used to gooning usually and now ending that
11:15
Also that image
11:15
Wtf
11:15
Why would anyone think thats sexually appealing
11:17
The only time ive saved actually pornographic photos of Glaceon was in the beginning when i did it as a joke
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And i deleted most of them
11:18
Past years most of the only ones that could have been considered goonbait have been sent by other people
11:20
If my gallery was a problem for me i wouldnt keep it
11:21
Im not stopping saving pics i find cute just because other retards think its sexual, im tired of everyone saying that
ungen 03/22/2025 11:23
I find the picture ugly, however calling it goony is a stretch
ungen
I find the picture ugly, however calling it goony is a stretch
serpente482 03/22/2025 11:25
Why ugly
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serpente482
Why would anyone think thats sexually appealing
ungen 03/22/2025 11:28
good judgement is required to draw the line between "this is goonbait, delete right now" and "this is cute, if you're attracted to this you have a skill issue and should stop being retarded"
11:28
I personally see the image as the latter, as you do (edited)
serpente482 03/22/2025 11:29
I save almost all glaceon images i see
11:29
All except the ones that have sexual undertones
11:31
I get poked fun at my weird obsession almost every week
11:31
I think this out of all places is a place where that shouldnt happen
11:32
Anthro doesnt always equal porn
11:32
Fuck off
serpente482
So why does science say the world is millions of years old
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 11:35
presuppositions posited by irreligious people
11:36
baggage from Darwinism
serpente482
Why ugly
ungen 03/22/2025 11:36
11:38
when they say something so glecphobic you gotta hit them with that ice beam stare
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Мико⚜🐾
presuppositions posited by irreligious people
serpente482 03/22/2025 11:39
No its not even that
11:40
The first theories werent even done by irreligious people
11:41
Creationism is dumb, theres no way to put it
11:42
Its a black stain on christianity and is only defended by people who dont look into it
serpente482
The first theories werent even done by irreligious people
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 11:42
well yeah, the Big Bang Theory was actually rejected by Atheists originally
11:42
because back then they actually cared about philosophy
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 03/22/2025 11:42
I don't care about that
11:42
there's no reason to
Мико⚜🐾
because back then they actually cared about philosophy
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 11:43
and felt that affirming that the universe had a beginning conceded a first cause (that first cause has to be intelligent as well) (edited)
serpente482 03/22/2025 11:44
I just refuse to believe that jews 4 thousand years ago were more capable of understanding the world than we are now
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Jesus never came here to give science lectures and physics courses
11:45
He came here to save our spirits
11:45
The discovery of the world is up to us, it hasnt been revealed to us by God
serpente482
Creationism is dumb, theres no way to put it
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 11:46
Well yeah, a hardline view is going to be silly, but Catholics and Orthodox ultimately dogmatically affirm that Adam and Eve were the first men, and that death at least for the human race is as a result of the Fall and not by necessity. It's in Canon 109 of Carthage (419) Saints like St. Bede believed in painless death for animals, but not for men (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Well yeah, a hardline view is going to be silly, but Catholics and Orthodox ultimately dogmatically affirm that Adam and Eve were the first men, and that death at least for the human race is as a result of the Fall and not by necessity. It's in Canon 109 of Carthage (419) Saints like St. Bede believed in painless death for animals, but not for men (edited)
serpente482 03/22/2025 11:46
Again adam and eve werent born on Earth
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Мико⚜🐾
Well yeah, a hardline view is going to be silly, but Catholics and Orthodox ultimately dogmatically affirm that Adam and Eve were the first men, and that death at least for the human race is as a result of the Fall and not by necessity. It's in Canon 109 of Carthage (419) Saints like St. Bede believed in painless death for animals, but not for men (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 11:46
The mistake YECs make is going to be that the historical Church gave a lot of leeway on interpretation of Genesis 1-2 (edited)
serpente482 03/22/2025 11:47
They were born in Paradise
Мико⚜🐾
The mistake YECs make is going to be that the historical Church gave a lot of leeway on interpretation of Genesis 1-2 (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 11:47
Beyond a few certain restrictions And to act like the saints read that text like a science book is just dishonest (edited)
serpente482 03/22/2025 11:47
Paradise is not Earth
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And its story might aswell be a metaphor told by God to jews 4000 thousand years ago they took as literal because they knew no better
11:48
If people 4000 years ago werent ready for Jesus they werent ready aswell to learn the history of the world
11:48
We arent ready aswell
11:49
We will be ready once we keep studying it more
11:49
If we ever are ready
ungen
when they say something so glecphobic you gotta hit them with that ice beam stare
serpente482 03/22/2025 11:50
ungen 03/22/2025 12:03
Are dinosaurs canon to Christianity?
ungen
Are dinosaurs canon to Christianity?
serpente482 03/22/2025 12:06
The existence of dinosaurs doesnt go against christianity
12:07
The creation of Earth and all its course was part of God's plan, all that happened prior to Jesus was creating the path to its coming
12:08
And that doesnt contradict big bang, dinosaurs, evolution and everything you want to throw to it
12:10
All were, if they are right, steps to the son of God being born in Belen, under jewish civilization under roman rule which made christianity be spread around rome at its peak and ended up with christianity becoming europes religion which was the continent that brought christianity to all the world
12:11
Jesus is the most famous being in history because it was pary of God's plan
12:11
Nowadays everyone can read the Bible and everyone can be saved
ungen
Are dinosaurs canon to Christianity?
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 12:24
Dinosaurs prior to the 19th century were referred to as dragons, alongside the mythical dragons
12:25
It was not until 1841 that Richard Owens coined the term, although you would very much presume otherwise (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 12:32
The existence of dinosaurs was never questioned, its just that we used to think certain animals or creatures existed that we now think do not
Мико⚜🐾
The existence of dinosaurs was never questioned, its just that we used to think certain animals or creatures existed that we now think do not
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/22/2025 13:03
So dinosaurs are dragons?
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 13:03
yes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/22/2025 13:04
Based on what knowledge/research?
Мико⚜🐾
yes
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 13:04
or the lionization of them
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Based on what knowledge/research?
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 13:06
its just going to be the case that prior to the mid-1800s, large reptiles and all reptiles that were thought of to have possibly or actually existed (depending on one's opinion really) were all referred to as dragon
13:06
you only begin to see a distinction between dragon and dinosaur after this point
13:06
dragon begins to refer to in the English language, reptiles or scaled beasts that are mythical or legendary in nature, less or no evidence of them existing
Мико⚜🐾
dragon begins to refer to in the English language, reptiles or scaled beasts that are mythical or legendary in nature, less or no evidence of them existing
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 13:07
dinosaur begins to refer to reptiles and scaled things that have 'more evidence' of their existence from the point of view of the scientist
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/22/2025 13:08
Oh so it's mostly just a lexicon thing.
Мико⚜🐾
dinosaur begins to refer to reptiles and scaled things that have 'more evidence' of their existence from the point of view of the scientist
Мико⚜🐾 03/22/2025 13:11
Sir Richard Owen used the Greek words "deinos/δεινός" and "sauros/σαῦρος", deinos referring to 'terrible' or 'fearfully great' and sauros referring to lizard, in order to coin a new English word "dinosaur"
13:11
This happened to catch on over time (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/26/2025 11:32
https://vxtwitter.com/Cernovich/status/1904550647241777635
Twitter
Cernovich (@Cernovich)
The “Christ is King” psyop failed miserably and is now trying to be walked back. Won’t work. People showed their true agenda. An attack on Christianity was orchestrated between Jordan Peterson, the ADL, and other lowlifes. There’s no return from that.
Zoraxe 03/27/2025 06:05
I assume this is a proper summary of what's going on?
Zoraxe
I assume this is a proper summary of what's going on?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/27/2025 09:05
This is all accurate.
09:06
Peterson has been extremely evasive on whether or not he's a Christian for a long time. The most he has admitted to, is that he agrees with the notion that Jesus is God. But he could be agreeing with that in some kind of "hypothetical, manifestation of the spirit of conscious" word-salad bullshit.
09:07
But considering he surrounds himselves with mostly Jewish people to "make sense of scripture", I wouldn't be surprised if he's being pushed in the direction of "Ackshually Jesus isn't the Messiah"
Zoraxe
I assume this is a proper summary of what's going on?
Мико⚜🐾 03/27/2025 09:28
this is correct, however it was far more than people on Quora labelling him functionally atheist
09:28
this criticism of him has been boiling over for years
09:29
however people did appreciate him more in the past for bringing the faith back into the spotlight for many people (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/27/2025 09:29
He has a bad case of word salad.
Мико⚜🐾 03/27/2025 09:29
Because hes not explicitly Christian
09:29
People are willing to listen to him
09:29
If he had, 6-7 years ago converted
09:30
His outreach, including to those who sought out the Christian tradition because of his allegorical interpretations of the Bible, would have been reduced greatly
Мико⚜🐾
His outreach, including to those who sought out the Christian tradition because of his allegorical interpretations of the Bible, would have been reduced greatly
Мико⚜🐾 03/27/2025 09:31
You see this with Jonathan Pageau, who I think has a more in-depth symbolic breakdown than he does more often than not. However, because he's Orthodox, people will tune out by virtue of him being that. Because they're well, programmed to
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/27/2025 09:32
https://youtu.be/_LSmj979yiA
Remnant777
The Sophistry of Jordan Peterson Examined
09:32
Found it
09:32
TLDR: He uses way too many fluffy words for really no reason
Мико⚜🐾
You see this with Jonathan Pageau, who I think has a more in-depth symbolic breakdown than he does more often than not. However, because he's Orthodox, people will tune out by virtue of him being that. Because they're well, programmed to
Мико⚜🐾 03/27/2025 09:32
https://youtu.be/pTPyqWE8cxc here's a good video from him (edited)
Jonathan Pageau
The Only Solution to Culture
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://youtu.be/_LSmj979yiA
Мико⚜🐾 03/27/2025 09:33
I can't say he's a "fake guru" altogether because ultimately he made many men and even a few women take our tradition seriously again
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/27/2025 09:34
It's less a critique of his insights and more a critique of the fact he uses too many unnecessary words lmao
09:34
The thumbnail is just clickbait
Zoraxe 03/27/2025 17:15
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Мико⚜🐾 03/27/2025 17:21
lol
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ungen 03/27/2025 17:53
did a thing
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VikingTiger6 03/27/2025 18:39
If you look at how Jordan Peterson surrounds himself with people who worship him, its not hard to see that he basically worships himself
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ungen
did a thing
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/28/2025 07:31
The gemmiest gem of all time
Zoraxe
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/28/2025 08:08
Made my own version
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08:14
The song is "Redeem the Future" from Xenoblade Chronicles 3 fyi
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/28/2025 10:29
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/29/2025 13:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4sc2B43yhQ
christian blue 💫
Reasons Why I Believe in God
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Мико⚜🐾 03/29/2025 17:16
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/30/2025 15:49
ungen 03/30/2025 16:12
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 03/30/2025 21:35
Matthew 10:28
BibleBot BOT 03/30/2025 21:35
Matthew 10:28 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<28> And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
ungen 04/01/2025 16:43
VikingTiger6 04/01/2025 18:57
I want to read about Augustine because all christian denominations seem to agree with him, where would I start?
Мико⚜🐾 04/01/2025 19:14
Augustine is one of my favourite Church Fathers personally
VikingTiger6
I want to read about Augustine because all christian denominations seem to agree with him, where would I start?
Мико⚜🐾 04/01/2025 19:15
Start off with Confessions for now, at least reading-wise. that's his autobiography up to the point he converted to Christianity and his mother Monica's death (edited)
19:17
Well, it's not an autobiography in the sense we would understand it today, moreso a philosophical contemplation of his life up to that point, and some thoughts on God
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Han. 04/01/2025 19:28
Yes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/01/2025 22:32
ungen 04/01/2025 23:23
Ecclesiastes 6:11 NIV
BibleBot BOT 04/01/2025 23:23
Ecclesiastes 6:11 - New International Version (NIV) (Biblica)
<11> The more the words, the less the meaning, and how does that profit anyone?
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Han. 04/02/2025 08:27
Hm
08:27
So what specific like
08:27
Christianity is satanic
Han.
Christianity is satanic
serpente482 04/02/2025 11:38
The gay protestant denoms
11:38
And mormonism
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/02/2025 13:11
"protestant demons" Right because Catholics have never ever ever bred Satanist perversions of scripture before never ever ever (ever, seriously never ever)
13:13
And Satanists only disguise themselves as protestants all the time and absolutely never sneak their ways into Catholic or orthodox churches
Han.
Christianity is satanic
VikingTiger6 04/02/2025 13:49
modern angilcan church
13:49
mormons
13:49
jw
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/02/2025 14:22
Mor(m)ons
Han. 04/02/2025 15:12
Yeah no one likes mormons or JWs
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
"protestant demons" Right because Catholics have never ever ever bred Satanist perversions of scripture before never ever ever (ever, seriously never ever)
serpente482 04/02/2025 16:01
Can you read twice before sperging
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
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Sogga 04/02/2025 22:48
whats the 5th type
Мико⚜🐾 04/03/2025 16:42
https://xcancel.com/ScriptoriumP/status/1907827009406882181
Scriptorium Press (@ScriptoriumP)
Did the Medieval Church forbid the use of the vernacular? There is a persistent myth that reading the Bible or praying in the vernacular was forbidden in the Middle Ages, and it was only after the time of the Reformation that ordinary people first gained access to Scripture.
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VikingTiger6 04/03/2025 18:46
Tyndale was burned for making a complete English translation
Мико⚜🐾 04/03/2025 19:25
While I do not condone the burning of Tyndale at the stake, the issue between Tyndale and the RCC was his, what would be regarding as mistranslations today, of certain words from the texts he was pulling from into other words and not their English equivalent, which now can be seen as inaccurate but back then were seen as questioning the RCC view. For instance, he translated the term "πρεσβύτερος", not to presbyter, which would be the correct translation, but to "elder", which is simply going to be very vague if not purposely errant. Even the Calvinists and the Presbyterians, who rejected the episcopacy, that is a distinction of ranking and honour between "ἐπίσκοπος", episkopos (overseer and supervisor) and presbyter on the grounds that quite a few Church Fathers prior to Nicaea 325 believed they were the same, they still believed that Christ established a priesthood through the laying of hands. He also used "congregation" instead of "Church", the more correct translation of "ἐκκλησία". So "the Church is the pillar and ground of all truth" would instead render as "the congregation is the pillar and ground of all truth", which was seen as another challenge of apostolic doctrine. He also translated "μετανοεῖτε" as "repent" as opposed to "do penance". Now, this is actually a case in which he did the correct translation at least critically speaking, however you have to keep in mind that the goal of translations not even for quite long after the Reformation was to render the text accurately, but to impose the correct belief on the reader. You see this with the KJV in Daniel 2, where it teaches that the figure that looks like a son of man (a human) is the Son of Man. Despite the Aramaic text itself not saying that the Son of Man is in the burning fire with the 3 (Meshach, Shadrach and Abednego), that is how the translation team interpreted the verse and therefore that is how they translated it as. This is a more modern thing to do within Christianity. Ultimately the reason why he rendered this in a way that hadn't been done before, was because he rejected the necessity of confession and believed it was unnecessary for salvation, which is going to be at least partly practice of the Church from the beginning, at least group confessions. Not because he wanted to translate the text in the correct way, as I have shown with two examples. The doctrine of the necessity of this in order to commune, you could say becomes tradition later. (edited)
VikingTiger6 04/03/2025 21:59
I thought a presbyter was an elder?
VikingTiger6
I thought a presbyter was an elder?
serpente482 04/03/2025 22:08
Its an ecclesiastical position
Мико⚜🐾 04/03/2025 22:08
presbyter is going to refer to priest or minister of the church
22:09
According to the Presbyterians, there is no distinction in rank between this and the episkopos (edited)
22:09
While Lutherans, Anglicans, Catholics and Orthodox hold that there is
Мико⚜🐾
According to the Presbyterians, there is no distinction in rank between this and the episkopos (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 04/03/2025 22:12
and this can actually be found within scripture, earlier on like in Acts 11 and Acts 15 for example, to give them credit (edited)
22:12
however by the time you get to the end of the 2nd century, you see a transition
VikingTiger6 04/03/2025 22:12
do we have bible bot?
Мико⚜🐾 04/03/2025 22:12
yeah
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/03/2025 22:12
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VikingTiger6 04/03/2025 22:13
Acts 11
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Bible bot why
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/03/2025 22:13
Acts 11:1
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Acts 11:1 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Peter's Report to the Church at Jerusalem
<1> Now the apostles and the brethren who were in Judea heard that the Gentiles also had received the word of God.
Мико⚜🐾 04/03/2025 22:14
Acts 11:30- Acts 14:23- Acts 15:22-30
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Acts 11:30 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<30> Which also they did, sending it to the ancients, by the hands of Barnabas and Saul.
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Acts 14:23-27 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<23> And passing through Pisidia, they came into Pamphylia. <24> And having spoken the word of the Lord in Perge, they went down into Attalia: <25> And thence they sailed to Antioch, from whence they had been delivered to the grace of God, unto the work which they accomplished. <26> And when they were come, and had assembled the church, they related what great things God had done with them, and how he had opened the door of faith to the Gentiles. <27> And they abode no small time with the disciples.
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Acts 15:22-30 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<22> Then it pleased the apostles and ancients, with the whole church, to choose men of their own company, and to send to Antioch, with Paul and Barnabas, namely, Judas, who was surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren. <23> Writing by their hands: The apostles and ancients, brethren, to the brethren of the Gentiles that are at Antioch, and in Syria and Cilicia, greeting. <24> Forasmuch as we have heard, that some going out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls; to whom we gave no commandment: <25> It hath seemed good to us, being assembled together, to choose out men, and to send them unto you, with our well beloved Barnabas and Paul: <26> Men that have given their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. <27> We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who themselves also will, by word of mouth, tell you the same things. <28> For it hath seemed good to the Holy Ghost and to us, to lay no further burden upon you than these necessary things: <29> That you abstain from things sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication; from which things keeping yourselves, you shall do well. Fare ye well. <30> They therefore being dismissed, went down to Antioch; and gathering together the multitude, delivered the epistle.
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Мико⚜🐾 04/03/2025 22:15
Acts 11:30 vulgate Acts 11:30 sblgnt
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Actus Apostolorum 11:30 - Biblia Sacra Vulgata (VULGATE)
<30> quod et fecerunt, mittentes ad seniores per manus Barnabae et Sauli.
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ΠΡΑΞΕΙΣ ΤΩΝ ΑΠΟΣΤΟΛΩΝ 11:30 - SBL Greek New Testament (SBLGNT)
<30> ὃ καὶ ἐποίησαν ἀποστείλαντες πρὸς τοὺς πρεσβυτέρους διὰ χειρὸς Βαρναβᾶ καὶ Σαύλου.
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Мико⚜🐾 04/03/2025 22:16
Acts 15:22 vulgate Acts 15:22 sblgnt
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Actus Apostolorum 15:22 - Biblia Sacra Vulgata (VULGATE)
<22> Tunc placuit Apostolis et senioribus cum omni ecclesia eligere viros ex eis, et mittere Antiochiam cum Paulo et Barnaba: Judam, qui cognominabatur Barsabas, et Silam, viros primos in fratribus:
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ΠΡΑΞΕΙΣ ΤΩΝ ΑΠΟΣΤΟΛΩΝ 15:22 - SBL Greek New Testament (SBLGNT)
<22> Τότε ἔδοξε τοῖς ἀποστόλοις καὶ τοῖς πρεσβυτέροις σὺν ὅλῃ τῇ ἐκκλησίᾳ ἐκλεξαμένους ἄνδρας ἐξ αὐτῶν πέμψαι εἰς Ἀντιόχειαν σὺν τῷ Παύλῳ καὶ Βαρναβᾷ, Ἰούδαν τὸν καλούμενον Βαρσαββᾶν καὶ Σιλᾶν, ἄνδρας ἡγουμένους ἐν τοῖς ἀδελφοῖς,
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/03/2025 22:17
I wonder...
22:17
1 John 2:15 DE
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1 John 2:15 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<15> Do not love the world or the things in the world. If any one loves the world, love for the Father is not in him.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/03/2025 22:18
Does it not do other languages
VikingTiger6 04/03/2025 22:18
The douay rheims says ancients, how is this different from elder?
Мико⚜🐾
While I do not condone the burning of Tyndale at the stake, the issue between Tyndale and the RCC was his, what would be regarding as mistranslations today, of certain words from the texts he was pulling from into other words and not their English equivalent, which now can be seen as inaccurate but back then were seen as questioning the RCC view. For instance, he translated the term "πρεσβύτερος", not to presbyter, which would be the correct translation, but to "elder", which is simply going to be very vague if not purposely errant. Even the Calvinists and the Presbyterians, who rejected the episcopacy, that is a distinction of ranking and honour between "ἐπίσκοπος", episkopos (overseer and supervisor) and presbyter on the grounds that quite a few Church Fathers prior to Nicaea 325 believed they were the same, they still believed that Christ established a priesthood through the laying of hands. He also used "congregation" instead of "Church", the more correct translation of "ἐκκλησία". So "the Church is the pillar and ground of all truth" would instead render as "the congregation is the pillar and ground of all truth", which was seen as another challenge of apostolic doctrine. He also translated "μετανοεῖτε" as "repent" as opposed to "do penance". Now, this is actually a case in which he did the correct translation at least critically speaking, however you have to keep in mind that the goal of translations not even for quite long after the Reformation was to render the text accurately, but to impose the correct belief on the reader. You see this with the KJV in Daniel 2, where it teaches that the figure that looks like a son of man (a human) is the Son of Man. Despite the Aramaic text itself not saying that the Son of Man is in the burning fire with the 3 (Meshach, Shadrach and Abednego), that is how the translation team interpreted the verse and therefore that is how they translated it as. This is a more modern thing to do within Christianity. Ultimately the reason why he rendered this in a way that hadn't been done before, was because he rejected the necessity of confession and believed it was unnecessary for salvation, which is going to be at least partly practice of the Church from the beginning, at least group confessions. Not because he wanted to translate the text in the correct way, as I have shown with two examples. The doctrine of the necessity of this in order to commune, you could say becomes tradition later. (edited)
VikingTiger6 04/03/2025 22:22
On confession, I thought he believed in the importance of confessing sins to God instead of to a priest? Similar to what Wycliffe believed
Мико⚜🐾 04/03/2025 22:23
Well yeah, that's how the douay rheims renders it, but the Vulgate says senior or senioribus, which when used as a noun is going to refer more clearly to lord/abbot/ecclesiastical head (edited)
VikingTiger6
On confession, I thought he believed in the importance of confessing sins to God instead of to a priest? Similar to what Wycliffe believed
Мико⚜🐾 04/03/2025 22:26
It may have just been an overreaction to the superstition and scruple of the laity, but he unlike Wycliffe rejected the sacrament of confession
Arcane BOT 04/03/2025 22:26
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Мико⚜🐾
It may have just been an overreaction to the superstition and scruple of the laity, but he unlike Wycliffe rejected the sacrament of confession
VikingTiger6 04/03/2025 22:29
I'm pretty sure wycliffe rejected the sacrament of confession too (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 04/03/2025 22:30
Ahh, then I was mistaken
VikingTiger6 04/03/2025 22:35
The lollards believed that since a priest couldn't forgive sins, confession to a priest wasn't necessary, they're quoted as saying "However, while it is beneficial to confess to a good priest, it is perilous to confess to a bad one."
Мико⚜🐾 04/03/2025 22:50
Concerning the question of whether a priest can forgive sins.. he stands before God as the representative of the congregation, and receives the ability to administer absolution not from his own strength or within himself, but through God working through him. That's going to be the Eastern view anyway And yes, that's true because when you confess to a bad priest, he may give you poor spiritual advice or request that you do something that isn't beneficial for your health or salvation.
22:51
Him being a bad priest does not mean God does not work through him anymore, however he may, and to his own damnation since shepherds are responsible for their sheep, lead someone astray
Мико⚜🐾
Concerning the question of whether a priest can forgive sins.. he stands before God as the representative of the congregation, and receives the ability to administer absolution not from his own strength or within himself, but through God working through him. That's going to be the Eastern view anyway And yes, that's true because when you confess to a bad priest, he may give you poor spiritual advice or request that you do something that isn't beneficial for your health or salvation.
Мико⚜🐾 04/03/2025 22:54
this idea of the Church administering such a thing is going to come from Leviticus, where we see the guilt offering to the Lord not being done privately but in the Temple. And 2 Samuel 12:13 where Samuel acts as God's intermediary (in a sense). And then in John 20, Christ tells the Apostles that He gives them the power to forgive sins too (edited)
BibleBot BOT 04/03/2025 22:54
2 Samuel 12:13 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<13> And David said to Nathan: I have sinned against the Lord. And Nathan said to David: The Lord also hath taken away thy sin: thou shalt not die.
Мико⚜🐾
this idea of the Church administering such a thing is going to come from Leviticus, where we see the guilt offering to the Lord not being done privately but in the Temple. And 2 Samuel 12:13 where Samuel acts as God's intermediary (in a sense). And then in John 20, Christ tells the Apostles that He gives them the power to forgive sins too (edited)
VikingTiger6 04/03/2025 22:59
The veil of the temple was torn meaning all can come before God
Мико⚜🐾 04/03/2025 23:05
That's true, Malachi 1:11
BibleBot BOT 04/03/2025 23:05
Malachi 1:11 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<11> For from the rising of the sun even to the going down, my name is great among the Gentiles, and in every place there is sacrifice, and there is offered to my name a clean oblation: for my name is great among the Gentiles, saith the Lord of hosts.
VikingTiger6 04/03/2025 23:14
There was nebuchadnezzar who merely looked up to God and was restored to his previous relationship with him, no confession to a priest
23:14
In daniel 4
Мико⚜🐾 04/03/2025 23:36
Events like Nebuchadnezzar regaining his sanity and praising God isn't going to take away from the reality that God commanded the Israelites to go to a physical place to at least confirm their repentance before Him at the Temple. What it is going to prove is that reconciliation with God can happen without such a thing, a refutation to people who think confession and only confession can only ever remit sin, of course that isn't the case because you see this happen before and even during the Sinaitic covenant at other times (2 Samuel is an example, David is told by Nathan that he is forgiven, before he offers sacrifice.) Confession from my point of view is going to be a confirmation, an assurance that you are in right standing with God and that you are taking the correct steps going forward, particularly on sins of habit. Also you should keep into account that there are sins that we forget to repent of, or do not know are sins (edited)
VikingTiger6 04/04/2025 04:15
this origen dude seems to imply worshipping images, even images dedicated to God is insane
Мико⚜🐾 04/04/2025 07:51
Keep in mind that Origen here is responding to Celsus, a Greek Pagan, who would have understood images and iconography in a different way than the Old Testament Jews, 2nd Temple Jews who used icons (since there was division on this topic) and early Christians used them (edited)
07:53
The issue with a complete rejection of them is going to be that the Old Testament Jews, who we derive our lineage from, did not reject usage of statuary and frescoes. Exodus 25 and 33, 1 Kings 8 and Ezekiel 41 all show this (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
The issue with a complete rejection of them is going to be that the Old Testament Jews, who we derive our lineage from, did not reject usage of statuary and frescoes. Exodus 25 and 33, 1 Kings 8 and Ezekiel 41 all show this (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 04/04/2025 07:56
the reason why the Israelites were commanded to never depict God, however, is because they had never seen Him at any time, His hypostasis I mean. However, with the incarnation of Christ, and the energetic manifestations of the Father as the Ancient of Days in Daniel 7, and the Holy Spirit as a dove this is no longer quite the case, we can now predicate something to all 3 persons
Мико⚜🐾
The issue with a complete rejection of them is going to be that the Old Testament Jews, who we derive our lineage from, did not reject usage of statuary and frescoes. Exodus 25 and 33, 1 Kings 8 and Ezekiel 41 all show this (edited)
VikingTiger6 04/04/2025 13:25
did they pray to those images though?
Мико⚜🐾 04/04/2025 13:27
That in and of itself is going to be something that begins to become more popular praxis over time, in the 3rd and 4th century (edited)
13:29
You see in the Roman catacombs and the Dura Europos church these icons that are used to teach theology or direct the onlooker to prayer, Blessed Eusebius also mentions the practice in his Ecclesiastical history as well, which was finished up just before the first council of Nicaea (edited)
VikingTiger6 04/04/2025 13:32
im not a complete iconoclast, it just seems they didnt pray to images and that this started due to pagan influence on the church
13:35
there was another church father who said that there was a statue of jesus in his town and people prayed to it because it was made by pagans who had witnessed a miracle and not by christians
Мико⚜🐾 04/04/2025 13:37
which one was that specifically (edited)
VikingTiger6 04/04/2025 13:42
i think it was eusebius, in the letter to constantia this is interesting
13:46
in his church history book 7 theres this
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he calls the people who did this gentiles
13:47
some translations say pagans
13:47
so it can be inferred he means gentile as in somone outside of the church
VikingTiger6
im not a complete iconoclast, it just seems they didnt pray to images and that this started due to pagan influence on the church
serpente482 04/04/2025 13:47
Muzzies also dont like icons
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So prots are muzzies
serpente482
Muzzies also dont like icons
VikingTiger6 04/04/2025 13:48
muslims pray to a cube
serpente482 04/04/2025 13:49
And you pray to a cross that if it has a man in it then its bad for some reason
13:51
The whole statues hate is from the old testament were God hadnt showed himself physically so there couldnt be any representation of him
13:51
He presented himself as Jesus so theres nothing wrong with remembering his image
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VikingTiger6
i think it was eusebius, in the letter to constantia this is interesting
Мико⚜🐾 04/04/2025 14:01
Concerning this specific letter from Eusebius to Constantia, if we read the entirety you will see, if we follow from my POV that icon veneration begins in the 3rd and 4th centuries, you will see that He argues more so for the impermissibility of the depiction of the hypostasis of the Son of God to Constantia, as opposed to the saints or biblical events altogether. This is an argument the likes of John Damascene and Theodore of the Studious Monastery address when the iconoclasts during the iconoclast period scavenge for writings to refute the iconodule group, and bring this argument back to the surface. When Nicaea II occurs, the letter is dismissed because of the arguments of John Damascene and Theodore, but also because of Eusebius' theological errors as well, given that it was well known that to both sides that he was a semi-Arian and caused the creation later on of the Homoean faction. That is, those who held that the Son was not of the same essence, Homousious, but of similar essence (edited)
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That is if you even grant its authenticity, anyway, given that the original does not exist and the first citation is from the council of Hieria, a synod that cites other forgeries (most of the quotes are genuine however, but they are from holy but still obscure Church figures) (edited)
14:05
serpente482
And you pray to a cross that if it has a man in it then its bad for some reason
VikingTiger6 04/04/2025 14:06
i dont pray to the cross
Мико⚜🐾 04/04/2025 14:06
14:06
this is actually going to be an early response to the arguments of Eusbius from Athanasius himself, the pillar of Nicene trinitarian philosophy (edited)
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Sogga 04/04/2025 14:17
who else is a part of the Jesus fandom?
Мико⚜🐾 04/04/2025 14:18
Don't call it that!
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14:23
https://youtu.be/o65dIj3lWP4
The Saint Tikhon Choir - Topic
Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom: No. 9, Cherubic Hymn
VikingTiger6
i dont pray to the cross
serpente482 04/04/2025 14:43
when you think of Jesus what image pops in your head?
serpente482
when you think of Jesus what image pops in your head?
VikingTiger6 04/04/2025 17:44
I guess the stereotypical long brown haired white guy
VikingTiger6
I guess the stereotypical long brown haired white guy
serpente482 04/04/2025 17:54
and from where you got that description
serpente482
and from where you got that description
VikingTiger6 04/04/2025 17:56
Popular culture
VikingTiger6
Popular culture
serpente482 04/04/2025 17:57
More specifically
serpente482
More specifically
VikingTiger6 04/04/2025 17:59
Well I can't really specify when everywhere around me feeds me an image of Jesus
VikingTiger6
Well I can't really specify when everywhere around me feeds me an image of Jesus
serpente482 04/04/2025 18:11
if protestants were right how could have the image of Jesus spread
VikingTiger6 04/04/2025 18:13
I never said I'm against images of Jesus, I'm against praying to images of Jesus
Мико⚜🐾 04/04/2025 18:39
When one does devotion to the Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, without the use of iconography, one often does not pray with a completely empty mind, his imagination comes alive and he begins to ascribe images based off of descriptions within his head, taken from scripture, popular culture or otherwise, to the persons. The issue with Bl. Eusebius' view, if that letter isn't spurious, is that if you cannot ascribe depictions to Christ even hypothetically is that it in a sense is a denial of the incarnation. Because it is ultimately going to lead to a denial the Incarnation in the truest sense, that Christ truly became Man in every sense we did, except for sin, to imply that one cannot see the person of Christ in an accurate way when He is right in front of Him in the flesh. to get back on track, if this is not done in prayer, it is undoubtedly done by all when he reads scripture, as we ascribe instinctually images, faces, with our imaginations to the persons of the Apostles, Christ, and other biblical characters. It is even done by scripture itself, created things, symbols and manifestations that are not God are still used as via analogy by the writers of the scriptures so that we can understand or picture who God is. However, our imagination, left unchecked, can become misled by the demons and conjure these evangelical scenes within scripture that depict Christ, the Apostles, the Prophets in an unorthodox, irreverent or obscene manner, which has happened to me quite a few times before. To avoid this, the Church can establish for the faithful how these should be imagined or understood with depictions painted on canvas or wooden blocks. They can be a tool for us to stay focused in prayer as well as a tool of the Church to teach correct Christianity. (edited)
18:40
Also, when one 'prays to images of Christ', one is not necessarily praying to the wood, the paint, the gold leaf, one is praying to the prototype depicted within
18:42
In a similar way, when someone, at war, opens their pendant with a photo of Averi inside of it and kisses it for comfort, they are not necessarily passing on that love to the pendant itself, no one would say that. The love instead passes onto Averi, the person depicted within the picture
18:43
Basil, one of the Cappadocian Fathers and defenders of the Trinity as we understnad it today, contemplates on this concept in his writings on the procession of the Holy Spirit, let me get the quote
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'Because we speak of a king, and of the king’s image, and not of two kings. The majesty is not cloven in two, nor the glory divided. The sovereignty and authority over us is one, and so the doxology ascribed by us is not plural but one; because the honor paid to the image passes on to the prototype. Now what in the one case the image is by reason of imitation, that in the other case the Son is by nature; and as in works of art the likeness is dependent on the form, so in the case of the divine and uncompounded nature the union consists in the communion of the Godhead.'
`St. Basil, On the Holy Spirit, Ch. XVIII, Sc. 45` When speaking on how worship of the Son passes onto the Father, he actually compares this to how people would honour and doxologise images of the Emperor. Honour that is paid to the image (image of Constantine the Great) is understood to pass onto the prototype (Constantine the Great himself), we do not ridicule people who kiss pendants with photos of their loved ones inside of them because we implicitly understand this to be a similar case as well. (edited)
18:47
No one says to a man who kisses a photo of his beloved Averi, "You know that's just a piece of paper with plastic laminate on it, right?"
serpente482
if protestants were right how could have the image of Jesus spread
Мико⚜🐾 04/04/2025 18:48
Ultimately people who present the Eusebian argument that Christ cannot be depicted correctly are going to have to logically conclude that Christ did not become a man as we are, beyond being without sin
18:49
If He cannot be remembered correctly in the minds of the Apostles, or seen correctly to paint or sketch by them, that's going to cause major issues (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/04/2025 21:45
https://vxtwitter.com/paleochristcon/status/1908144570258358674
Andrew Wilson (@paleochristcon@x.com)
The gay lisp is a phenomenon which has no rational explanation.
21:46
He's right tho
21:46
Literally what is the explaination for gays having a lisp?
21:46
Lesbians don't do that.
Мико⚜🐾
When one does devotion to the Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, without the use of iconography, one often does not pray with a completely empty mind, his imagination comes alive and he begins to ascribe images based off of descriptions within his head, taken from scripture, popular culture or otherwise, to the persons. The issue with Bl. Eusebius' view, if that letter isn't spurious, is that if you cannot ascribe depictions to Christ even hypothetically is that it in a sense is a denial of the incarnation. Because it is ultimately going to lead to a denial the Incarnation in the truest sense, that Christ truly became Man in every sense we did, except for sin, to imply that one cannot see the person of Christ in an accurate way when He is right in front of Him in the flesh. to get back on track, if this is not done in prayer, it is undoubtedly done by all when he reads scripture, as we ascribe instinctually images, faces, with our imaginations to the persons of the Apostles, Christ, and other biblical characters. It is even done by scripture itself, created things, symbols and manifestations that are not God are still used as via analogy by the writers of the scriptures so that we can understand or picture who God is. However, our imagination, left unchecked, can become misled by the demons and conjure these evangelical scenes within scripture that depict Christ, the Apostles, the Prophets in an unorthodox, irreverent or obscene manner, which has happened to me quite a few times before. To avoid this, the Church can establish for the faithful how these should be imagined or understood with depictions painted on canvas or wooden blocks. They can be a tool for us to stay focused in prayer as well as a tool of the Church to teach correct Christianity. (edited)
VikingTiger6 04/04/2025 23:12
I'll agree with you, we need to continue to hear God's word to have his ear
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Lesbians don't do that.
Мико⚜🐾 04/04/2025 23:26
It's an implicit signal to other gays
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://vxtwitter.com/paleochristcon/status/1908144570258358674
Мико⚜🐾 04/05/2025 08:37
https://xcancel.com/Nero/status/1906022723958255890
MILO (@Nero)
It isn’t femininity. It is effeminacy—burlesque womanhood. It is a pastiche, intrinsically mocking and purposefully contemptuous of the family and normalcy. A way to say fuck you in someone’s face and get away with it. It’s how you know they’re still gay men and not women.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/08/2025 14:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqrSBMWglsM
Apologetics Roadshow
What They Found Under the Church of the Holy Sepulchre Confirms the...
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14:53
Man, we just keep winning, huh?
14:56
My colleague is going to have a meltdown over this because he's always prattling on about "muh archaeology muh archaeology where is the evidence in muh archaeology"
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqrSBMWglsM
Мико⚜🐾 04/08/2025 14:58
beautiful
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqrSBMWglsM
VikingTiger6 04/08/2025 18:49
I don't have time to watch the vid, what did they find?
VikingTiger6
I don't have time to watch the vid, what did they find?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/08/2025 18:51
The Church of the Holy Sepulchre is the place where Jesus was buried. It sits above a rock quary, which runs contradictory to scripture as it says Jesus' tomb was in a garden. Archaeologists found proof that the place was actually an olive garden, which lines up with what the scripture says.
VikingTiger6 04/08/2025 18:53
Did you know the olive Grove where Jesus preached and spent time with the disciples is still there too
18:53
Its really neat to think its still an olive Grove
18:54
The trees aren't from his time though, the oldest one is about 1000 years old apparently
Zoraxe 04/09/2025 23:55
Finally did my confession
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Zoraxe
Finally did my confession
Мико⚜🐾 04/10/2025 06:49
Wow, how was it for you
Zoraxe 04/10/2025 07:00
It went well, but was emotional as well
Zoraxe
It went well, but was emotional as well
Мико⚜🐾 04/10/2025 19:10
Yeah, I sort of know how you feel. I had my life confession on February 1st, it was all a bit overwhelming for me
19:12
basically if youre a convert here, for your first confession you confess all your major sins up to that point in life
Zoraxe 04/10/2025 19:19
I technically had confession previously, but that was over 15 years ago during a time that I didn't take religion seriously either
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/11/2025 17:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvOO2UgCP7A
Revelation 22:13
Bob Gives A Talk - Need for Unity - Lenten Talks: The Church In & O...
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/11/2025 17:07
I do have some critiques of the other denoms but now is not the time for that. We've got bigger fishes to fry than others Christians having slightly different interpretations of scripture.
Мико⚜🐾 04/12/2025 20:44
"Adulterous and unfaithful Jewish race, come and see how He espouses the new Zion, for she is chaste, and rejects the synagogue which is condemned."
`Liturgy of John the Chrysostom, Palm Sunday`
AaWoolf 04/13/2025 22:24
In a lutheran sunday shool/meetup house, not sure how to call it exactly
22:25
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AaWoolf 04/13/2025 22:26
Ive got no problem with any images themselves, Ive seen altars with large paintings "behind" them, would have to look back far in my gallery but this is the closest and most recent example Ive got
22:27
Ive seen altars where its essentially like in the last pic but in place of the cross is a large painting about the same size
AaWoolf 04/13/2025 22:38
this was in a currently lutheran church if I am not mistaken (edited)
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AaWoolf
this was in a currently lutheran church if I am not mistaken (edited)
AaWoolf 04/13/2025 22:51
yes it indeed is, St Gertrude Old Church
22:57
I find it interesting that this region was also called Terra Mariana when it was a principality of the Holy Roman Empire
23:03
In either way I agree and believe it to be foolish to push for a complete removal of images/icons, for unless a person purposefully and wrongfully worships the item itself, there is no issue with them
AaWoolf
In either way I agree and believe it to be foolish to push for a complete removal of images/icons, for unless a person purposefully and wrongfully worships the item itself, there is no issue with them
serpente482 04/13/2025 23:06
Its just something protestants implemented to difference themselves from catholics
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/14/2025 20:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZKvOvuoPqg
SEVI 2 FACE
PINTO A CRISTO Y ASÍ REACCIONAN
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@serpente482
Мико⚜🐾 04/15/2025 17:33
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VikingTiger6 04/15/2025 19:17
This is very interesting
19:18
Curious about his sources, I don't remember such details when reading genesis, I assume he must be reading between the lines or piecing info off of our best guesses
19:24
Now that I think of it, God changing the likeness of tribes of men according to their revolt against him makes alotta sense when you consider india
VikingTiger6
Curious about his sources, I don't remember such details when reading genesis, I assume he must be reading between the lines or piecing info off of our best guesses
Мико⚜🐾 04/15/2025 19:32
A lot of it is presuming the accounts from antiquity to be factual or at least should be taken somewhat seriously. Stuff that's from Herotodus or Plato for example, as well as Church tradition (i.e. Christopher being turnt into a Cynecophali for a time, Anthony the Great meeting humanoid creatures) (edited)
19:33
Hebrew, or Paleo-Hebrew anyway, since Hebrew has since the time of the Pentateuch changed obviously due to Aramisation along with other things, was generally considered to be the original language (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
A lot of it is presuming the accounts from antiquity to be factual or at least should be taken somewhat seriously. Stuff that's from Herotodus or Plato for example, as well as Church tradition (i.e. Christopher being turnt into a Cynecophali for a time, Anthony the Great meeting humanoid creatures) (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 04/15/2025 19:40
Probably Rabbinic tradition as well. I will have to get a hard copy of the text with more clear citations and translate it myself, this is from someone else (edited)
19:41
What earlier Church stuff he's pulling from etc.
VikingTiger6
Now that I think of it, God changing the likeness of tribes of men according to their revolt against him makes alotta sense when you consider india
Мико⚜🐾 04/15/2025 19:41
(Didn't want to say it but yeah)
VikingTiger6 04/15/2025 20:09
Well its no secret some of the most abhorrent paganism comes from India, so no wonder they have such high rates of genetic diseases
VikingTiger6 04/15/2025 22:06
Its neat to consider that Adam and eve were genetically perfect and the genetic problems of modern man are due to mutation brought on by sin
Мико⚜🐾 04/15/2025 22:14
I think it would only make sense to believe that
22:14
If you were going to believe that the Fall was real, anyway
VikingTiger6 04/15/2025 23:55
Well yea, the fall is the reason why inbreeding results in genetic disorder
Han. 04/16/2025 12:07
Why do protestant churches sing pop songs about Christianity
12:07
It feels very unprofessional
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 14:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFgj0IQ11G4
Off The Kirb Ministries
If You Haven't Heard, They Just Banned Easter in the UK
Han.
Why do protestant churches sing pop songs about Christianity
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 14:03
we sing hymns in my church
Han. 04/16/2025 14:04
What denomination are you
Han.
Why do protestant churches sing pop songs about Christianity
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 14:04
i dont think the type of music matters, i think the content of that music is whats important
Han.
What denomination are you
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 14:04
reformed baptist
VikingTiger6
i dont think the type of music matters, i think the content of that music is whats important
Han. 04/16/2025 14:04
I think the same but is singing a big part of attending church?
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 14:04
I dont think God cares whether youre singing a pop song or a more traditional hymn, what he cares about is whether youre worshipping him
Han.
I think the same but is singing a big part of attending church?
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 14:04
yea
14:05
you gotta remember that even our oldest musical traditions were new at one point
Han. 04/16/2025 14:06
I see
14:06
When I attended church for the first time I just didn’t expect a lot of singing
Han.
Why do protestant churches sing pop songs about Christianity
AaWoolf 04/16/2025 20:51
That is the case for a (unfortunately large) part of western protestantist churches, not only can protestant denominations differ greatly between one another just on their own, but also by where they are. Though I am technically a protestant, I am a part of one of the most conservative protestant churches (Evangelical Lutheran Church of Latvia), which has remained relatively well with catholic traditions
20:54
I would also like to differentiate between "Roman Catholic" and "catholic" since one is the church of Rome which has taken the word "catholic" in its name and the other term means "universal/all including" in a Christian tradition sense
Han.
I think the same but is singing a big part of attending church?
AaWoolf 04/16/2025 20:56
Look at even the orthodox, liturgy consists of quite a lot of singing in praying
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Arcane BOT 04/16/2025 20:56
@AaWoolf has reached level 3. GG!
Han.
When I attended church for the first time I just didn’t expect a lot of singing
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 21:07
I used to dread it at first, but now I really enjoy it
21:07
My favorite hymn is To God Be The Glory
AaWoolf
I would also like to differentiate between "Roman Catholic" and "catholic" since one is the church of Rome which has taken the word "catholic" in its name and the other term means "universal/all including" in a Christian tradition sense
serpente482 04/16/2025 21:08
Catholic Church is the universal Church and its head is in Rome. The rest of yall never wanted an universal Church, so dont say that
Han.
When I attended church for the first time I just didn’t expect a lot of singing
serpente482 04/16/2025 21:10
I think singing has been normal since Old Testament times
serpente482
Catholic Church is the universal Church and its head is in Rome. The rest of yall never wanted an universal Church, so dont say that
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 21:55
Christ is the head of the church
VikingTiger6
Christ is the head of the church
serpente482 04/16/2025 22:01
And he communicates his will through the Pope
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 22:03
God communicates his will via the Bible and Holy Spirit
VikingTiger6
God communicates his will via the Bible and Holy Spirit
serpente482 04/16/2025 22:04
And thats why everyone agrees on everything the Bible says
22:06
One day everyone will return to Rome
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VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 22:07
Roles just another babylon
VikingTiger6
Roles just another babylon
serpente482 04/16/2025 22:18
Babylon is when all christians unite instead of separating because one man decided he is right and his Church is wrong
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 22:20
Babylon is when one big empire says they're more important than God and his word
serpente482 04/16/2025 22:21
Isnt it weird how when someone leaves the Church they cant remove the word of God but they always attack its image and people around him
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Its funny how both Luther and mohammad were against depictions of Jesus and against either the Saints or Mary
22:22
But none could strip his comandaments directly
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 22:23
Rome being another babylon is predicted in the book of Daniel
serpente482 04/16/2025 22:23
Yes
22:23
Because Rome fell
22:23
1500 years ago
22:23
Idk if you heard
22:23
The Church rose from its ashes
22:24
Same way as atheism rose from the Reform
serpente482
Its funny how both Luther and mohammad were against depictions of Jesus and against either the Saints or Mary
GR 04/16/2025 22:24
Luther wasn't against depictions he just didn't like the idea of icon veneration
GR
Luther wasn't against depictions he just didn't like the idea of icon veneration
serpente482 04/16/2025 22:25
Same as Mohammad
22:25
"it removes the attention from God"
22:25
Both used that
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 22:25
Alotta early church fathers didn't like icon veneration either because its idolatry
VikingTiger6
Alotta early church fathers didn't like icon veneration either because its idolatry
serpente482 04/16/2025 22:25
Theres no icon veneration
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But those people existed
22:26
And shockingly they were represented
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 22:26
Depicting somone in an image is different from praying to an image
serpente482 04/16/2025 22:26
If we pray to images you pray to the void were the devil hides
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 22:27
Thats why the devil encourages pagans to pray to idols
serpente482 04/16/2025 22:28
There are more muslims than pagans
22:28
So what about em
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 22:28
Muslims pray to a saturn cube, literally satan
serpente482 04/16/2025 22:29
If you believe the devil spoke to Mohammad why it told him the same luther believed regarding "images of God"
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 22:29
I don't know, hitler told us to not smoke, should I start smoking?
VikingTiger6
I don't know, hitler told us to not smoke, should I start smoking?
serpente482 04/16/2025 22:31
So you think the devil actually told mohammad some truths that the holy spirit didnt tell the Church back then?
22:31
How does that compute
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 22:31
Yall will travel hundreds of miles to visit a piece of wood because at some point it was part of a chair somone important sat on, this is obvious idolatry
serpente482
So you think the devil actually told mohammad some truths that the holy spirit didnt tell the Church back then?
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 22:31
Literally not what I said
VikingTiger6
Yall will travel hundreds of miles to visit a piece of wood because at some point it was part of a chair somone important sat on, this is obvious idolatry
serpente482 04/16/2025 22:33
Yall will change easter to celebrate bunnies and eggs because processions are idolatry and Saint Nicholas to consumerism symbol because Saints are bad o algo
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22:33
Wake up
serpente482
Yall will change easter to celebrate bunnies and eggs because processions are idolatry and Saint Nicholas to consumerism symbol because Saints are bad o algo
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 22:33
You're lumping secular atheists with protestants
VikingTiger6
You're lumping secular atheists with protestants
serpente482 04/16/2025 22:34
Because those appeared thanks to protestantism ideals
22:35
Jesus was a man who walked among us
22:35
Stop trying to remove the Son from the Trinity by avoiding to remember his human form
serpente482
Because those appeared thanks to protestantism ideals
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 22:36
The way I see it all the wolves in sheep's clothing left, leaving a stronger church
VikingTiger6
The way I see it all the wolves in sheep's clothing left, leaving a stronger church
serpente482 04/16/2025 22:53
A stronger church that gets attacked by the people the reform gave strength to
22:53
Protestants are christians
22:54
But what protestantism brought isnt
22:54
The anticatholicism of the reform is the devil work
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 22:57
Alotta people are in the church because their parents and community made them do it, after protestantism, alot of the atheists left, leaving a stronger church, this is way better than a church run by atheists, even roman bishops are warning of the practical atheism within the church
VikingTiger6
Alotta people are in the church because their parents and community made them do it, after protestantism, alot of the atheists left, leaving a stronger church, this is way better than a church run by atheists, even roman bishops are warning of the practical atheism within the church
serpente482 04/16/2025 22:59
Bro even in your examples the protestant churches are the biggest exponents
22:59
Remember kippy2
22:59
Or the "priest" at Trump speech
VikingTiger6 04/16/2025 23:00
I wouldn't call her a priest
serpente482 04/16/2025 23:00
But her "Church" would
serpente482
One day everyone will return to Rome
Мико⚜🐾 04/16/2025 23:02
true
serpente482
If we pray to images you pray to the void were the devil hides
Мико⚜🐾 04/17/2025 14:13
Exactly. I already addressed the obligations to these last pointers last week
serpente482
Bro even in your examples the protestant churches are the biggest exponents
Мико⚜🐾 04/17/2025 14:16
All of what were the historical institutions and Churches have had to break up as a result of theological liberalism, like the Episcopal "Church" that Kippy2 attends
VikingTiger6
Yall will travel hundreds of miles to visit a piece of wood because at some point it was part of a chair somone important sat on, this is obvious idolatry
Мико⚜🐾 04/17/2025 14:17
Reliquaries and veneration of burial sites of certain figures within the Church have occured since the second century
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Because God, as happens repeatedly throughout scripture, performed miracles through these things
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not even something that detractors of icons and statuary in the early church rejected
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/17/2025 17:14
https://vxtwitter.com/ChristSavesUK/status/1912840604855189910
Disciples Of Christ (@ChristSavesUK@x.com)
King Charles III has released an Easter message which includes an inappropriate reference to Islam. This is outrageous. Charles is neglecting his role as Defender of the Faith. https://t.co/OiIfJj7lGQ
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I don't know who the FUCK Charles has been co-opted by but that old geezer needs to go. NOW.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I don't know who the FUCK Charles has been co-opted by but that old geezer needs to go. NOW.
Мико⚜🐾 04/17/2025 17:28
he has a fetish for eastern religion
Мико⚜🐾
Because God, as happens repeatedly throughout scripture, performed miracles through these things
VikingTiger6 04/17/2025 19:26
Whatd Jesus say to the woman who was healed by touching his cloak?
19:26
He said "your faith has healed you"
19:27
It was never about the cloak
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/17/2025 19:33
Why did God allow sin to enter the world and why didn't God have some kind of safety check in place to prevent it? (edited)
ungen 04/17/2025 19:38
why bad thing happen
19:39
ungen
why bad thing happen
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/17/2025 19:39
Literally but also answer the question o algo
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Why did God allow sin to enter the world and why didn't God have some kind of safety check in place to prevent it? (edited)
GR 04/17/2025 20:09
if He didn't allow us to sin or even had restrictions set in place to prevent it, would that be free will?
20:09
>answering a question with a question award
GR
>answering a question with a question award
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/17/2025 20:10
VikingTiger6
He said "your faith has healed you"
Мико⚜🐾 04/17/2025 20:20
That's true, Christ did indeed say that. What did the woman have faith in? That Christ was the Son of God, or at least a great man who could heal her of her infirmity, clearly. She also believed to herself that, if she was to even touch His garment for a short moment, only for a second, that she could possibly be freed from her illness, if only. And Christ decided to, in His loving-mercy and also so He could be rightly glorified further, granted her supplication, through that interaction with His cloak. Grace was imputed upon her, power "flowed from" Christ, and she was indeed healed. So from my understanding, it has plenty to do with the cloth: because of her faith in Christ that her touching even His garment would save her and it did- nevertheless it was done through the cloak as a medium. OK, so she was healed because of her faith. So what? You might ask. Well, what about the instances within scripture in which "relics", body parts/bones or things that saints have owned, touched, or even had their shadow over are not only paid their due reverence, but heal people not only because of their faith but in spite of it? You have instances in which Man's faith that x object belonging to a saint does a miraculous thing, like when Elisha uses Elijah's mantle to part a river. There are also instances in which Elisha's bones resurrect a dead man who was thrown into his tomb carelessly by the Israelites during a Moabite raid. Handkerchiefs and aprons Paul used or touched became wonderworking not only to those who believed, but those who didn't necessarily believe. Peter's shadow alone often healed anyone and imbued grace unto anything it covered. Why do miracles happen through relics in spite of faith at times? Because, as you should know, miracles do not happen for those who have faith only, but so people can have faith. And always to the glory of God. Furthermore, the Ark of the Covenant has divine grace imputed upon it, as well as the altar. And these objects were not only holy, but objects that touched these things became holy. The Ark was so holy that, those who approached and touched it unworthily died at times.
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Because this is the case, and more, (as I pointed out, veneration of relics is actually an early Church practice while icon veneration was something that grew in popularity for instance) I just fail to see what would be so abominable about the practice, or the belief in reliquaries. (edited)
20:24
The Biblical age isn't over in every sense. Yes, the seal of the Prophets was John. However, it's not as if God just stopped working in the world after His ascension, or after Paul and Peter's death. He didn't just abandon the world or his flock.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Why did God allow sin to enter the world and why didn't God have some kind of safety check in place to prevent it? (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 04/17/2025 20:26
Why would God, in His foreknowledge that Adam would transgress his commandment and cause us all to share in His fall, choose to deprive us of free will, especially when doing otherwise would be to His greater glory?
Мико⚜🐾
Why would God, in His foreknowledge that Adam would transgress his commandment and cause us all to share in His fall, choose to deprive us of free will, especially when doing otherwise would be to His greater glory?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/17/2025 20:27
I hear that but does this also suggest God created sin?
Мико⚜🐾 04/17/2025 20:27
The Incarnation and the Crucifixion, these are things that prove demonstrably His love for us, how awesome He truly is
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I hear that but does this also suggest God created sin?
Мико⚜🐾 04/17/2025 20:29
Inasmuch as, in His foreknowledge, He knew that we would all sin against Him, yet did not fix our will against it, you could say that God permits sin. But, you could not say that God created sin, that He created evil
Мико⚜🐾
The Incarnation and the Crucifixion, these are things that prove demonstrably His love for us, how awesome He truly is
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/17/2025 20:29
I wouldn't question it for a second.
Мико⚜🐾
Inasmuch as, in His foreknowledge, He knew that we would all sin against Him, yet did not fix our will against it, you could say that God permits sin. But, you could not say that God created sin, that He created evil
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/17/2025 20:30
Was it rebelling against God that created sin? From whence did that sin form?
Мико⚜🐾
Inasmuch as, in His foreknowledge, He knew that we would all sin against Him, yet did not fix our will against it, you could say that God permits sin. But, you could not say that God created sin, that He created evil
Мико⚜🐾 04/17/2025 20:31
Because He is the ultimate good, He is the fountainhead of perfection, within Him (His logoi) are all of the Forms. Evil, sin, these are privations of Good, not their counterparts or opposites. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Inasmuch as, in His foreknowledge, He knew that we would all sin against Him, yet did not fix our will against it, you could say that God permits sin. But, you could not say that God created sin, that He created evil
ungen 04/17/2025 20:31
For cold is simply the absence of heat, and likewise, sin is an absence of virtue.
ungen
For cold is simply the absence of heat, and likewise, sin is an absence of virtue.
Мико⚜🐾 04/17/2025 20:31
Exactly
VikingTiger6 04/17/2025 20:32
2 kings 18:4 is why I still think collecting relics leads to idolatry
BibleBot BOT 04/17/2025 20:32
2 Kings 18:4 - King James Version (KJV)
<4> He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.
Мико⚜🐾 04/17/2025 20:33
Yeah, there are obviously instances of going too far, where dulia (veneration) becomes latria (worship)
20:33
But one instance of veneration of relics becoming something sour isn't really going to take away from the very biblical origins of the concept
Мико⚜🐾
Yeah, there are obviously instances of going too far, where dulia (veneration) becomes latria (worship)
Мико⚜🐾 04/17/2025 20:34
this is why the 7th ecumenical council was called: it established what was correct veneration and respect of these things, and what was to be considered impiety
Мико⚜🐾
Because He is the ultimate good, He is the fountainhead of perfection, within Him (His logoi) are all of the Forms. Evil, sin, these are privations of Good, not their counterparts or opposites. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 04/17/2025 20:37
We're not Zoroastrians or dualists in the sense that we believe that good and evil are opposing forces of similar, if not equal power: Christ already defeated evil on the Cross, when He appropriated our punishment to Himself and tasted the wine sponge soured with our sin
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/17/2025 22:34
John 3:16
BibleBot BOT 04/17/2025 22:34
John 3:16 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<16> For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
doge 04/18/2025 02:23
John 2:16
BibleBot BOT 04/18/2025 02:23
John 2:16 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<16> And he told those who sold the pigeons, "Take these things away; you shall not make my Father's house a house of trade."
doge
used /dailyverse
BibleBot BOT 04/18/2025 02:46
1 Corinthians 1:18 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Christ the Power and Wisdom of God
<18> For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Was it rebelling against God that created sin? From whence did that sin form?
Мико⚜🐾 04/18/2025 07:48
Yes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/18/2025 11:52
https://vxtwitter.com/smashbaals/status/1911195763528421378
Smash Baals (@smashbaals@x.com)
The Apostle Paul: “If someone or even an angel gives you another gospel let him be accursed.” Joseph Smith: Hey this angel came to me and revealed the true gospel which coincidentally allows me to have multiple wives
Мико⚜🐾 04/18/2025 14:00
John 19:30
BibleBot BOT 04/18/2025 14:00
John 19:30 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<30> Jesus therefore, when he had taken the vinegar, said: It is consummated. And bowing his head, he gave up the ghost.
Мико⚜🐾
John 19:30
doge 04/18/2025 21:37
question, what's the difference between the orthodox cross and the catholic cross
21:38
or the branches in general
doge
question, what's the difference between the orthodox cross and the catholic cross
Мико⚜🐾 04/18/2025 21:39
the line on the orthodox cross that goes from left to right is going to be in reference to the two sinners who were crucified alongside Him
21:39
One asked to be accepted into the Kingdom, the other rejected Him
doge 04/18/2025 21:39
so
21:40
kinda like a yin yang almost
Мико⚜🐾
the line on the orthodox cross that goes from left to right is going to be in reference to the two sinners who were crucified alongside Him
doge 04/18/2025 21:41
so what would be the key difference between an orthodox church and an catholic church
doge
so what would be the key difference between an orthodox church and an catholic church
serpente482 04/19/2025 03:32
One has a Pope and the other has a regional representative thats the most important out of all the representatives and basically runs the Church but they dont call it Pope
03:32
Also one wears white and the other black
Han. 04/20/2025 15:15
Do I need to be baptized to participate in the Lord’s supper
15:16
When I attend church I sit out the lords supper part because my dad told me I’m not baptized
Han.
Do I need to be baptized to participate in the Lord’s supper
VikingTiger6 04/20/2025 15:20
Yes
15:21
The bible says you can get sick if you participate in an unworthy manner
15:21
Also get baptized as soon as you believe, don't push it off, if you believe then go ask your pastor
Han.
Do I need to be baptized to participate in the Lord’s supper
Мико⚜🐾 04/20/2025 15:22
Yes
VikingTiger6
Also get baptized as soon as you believe, don't push it off, if you believe then go ask your pastor
Han. 04/20/2025 15:22
I want to be baptized but I don’t go to church regularly and next week I’ll be out of the country
15:22
So I can’t do it very soon
doge
so what would be the key difference between an orthodox church and an catholic church
Мико⚜🐾 04/20/2025 15:23
Theological differences and system of governance, mainly (edited)
Han.
I want to be baptized but I don’t go to church regularly and next week I’ll be out of the country
VikingTiger6 04/20/2025 15:23
Tell this to your pastor
VikingTiger6
Tell this to your pastor
Han. 04/20/2025 15:25
I also don’t have a set church I go to
15:26
The one I was at today is near my dorm but during holidays I go home
15:26
Where there’s different churches I go to
Han.
I also don’t have a set church I go to
VikingTiger6 04/20/2025 15:27
Do you feel you belong to any church in particular?
VikingTiger6
Do you feel you belong to any church in particular?
Han. 04/20/2025 15:28
No
Мико⚜🐾
Theological differences and system of governance, mainly (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 04/20/2025 16:14
The Orthodox Church is pretty much several autonomous churches, governmental bodies, in union with one another
16:15
They share many core things amongst one another, but they also have their own distinct practices, traditions and even liturgical calendar (edited)
16:17
For instance, the Greeks do not have the Romanov family on their Church Calendar, we don't have Saint Paisios on the Russian calendar here at my church
16:19
As Serpente said, for Catholicism you have 1 top guy, at least in theory anyway. But in reality there are cardinals across the world that form a conclave underneath him and advise him on his decisions regarding the Church, some he elects and others from a previous pope's election. Now, they will be of distinct practices and traditions perhaps, there are a lot of rites within Catholicism. However, there is a greater degree of centrality (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Theological differences and system of governance, mainly (edited)
doge 04/20/2025 17:20
kewwwwl makes sense
serpente482 04/21/2025 09:18
Pope died
09:18
Pray for him even if your Church is instagram
09:18
Мико⚜🐾 04/21/2025 09:27
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/21/2025 09:40
09:40
I pray that Jesus says to him "Well done, good and faithful servant".
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Zoraxe 04/21/2025 18:07
doge 04/21/2025 18:29
NasCar 04/22/2025 19:32
@Мико⚜🐾 @Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian nigga what
19:32
NasCar
@Мико⚜🐾 @Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian nigga what
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/22/2025 19:33
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
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NasCar 04/22/2025 19:33
my honest reaction
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/22/2025 19:34
https://vxtwitter.com/trad_west_/status/1914615159038894272
Trad West (@trad_west_@x.com)
Jesus Christ is literally God. This is how you defend the Faith and the Church.
19:34
I'm basically this guy
NasCar 04/22/2025 19:39
furfag making retard shit but on christianity
19:39
it's over
NasCar
@Мико⚜🐾 @Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian nigga what
Мико⚜🐾 04/22/2025 19:46
i wasnt aware of this project until today, when the controversy started
19:47
Christ as a bull and not a sheep should already set off alarm bells
NasCar 04/22/2025 19:47
I saw a trailer on ig
Мико⚜🐾
Christ as a bull and not a sheep should already set off alarm bells
NasCar 04/22/2025 19:47
yeah
19:47
I thought it was a weird choice
Мико⚜🐾 04/22/2025 19:47
Bulls within a biblical context
19:47
are going to be a reference to Moloch
19:47
if not referring to Levitical sacrifice
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/22/2025 20:29
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20:29
This man would be a superb model for Christianity.
20:30
Catholics you have one job: Make him Pope.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
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VikingTiger6 04/23/2025 00:06
Ever since I saw this dude point out the practical atheism in the church, I was hoping he would become pope
ungen 04/23/2025 06:37
this one dude keeps shilling me some TV series about Jesus and the disciples called The Chosen (2017) is it kiked or gemmy
06:38
I never watch streaming service show slop but he keeps insisting
ungen
this one dude keeps shilling me some TV series about Jesus and the disciples called The Chosen (2017) is it kiked or gemmy
serpente482 04/23/2025 08:27
Ive heard its gemmy
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/23/2025 12:12
ungen
this one dude keeps shilling me some TV series about Jesus and the disciples called The Chosen (2017) is it kiked or gemmy
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/23/2025 12:12
I've heard mixed opinions but it seems to lean towards gemmy than cringe
NasCar 04/23/2025 16:40
Not me finding the trailer of the furfag Judas animation because my sis liked it on ig
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16:41
16:41
How do I tell her without sounding like an asshole
NasCar
How do I tell her without sounding like an asshole
Han. 04/23/2025 16:46
“This animation perverts the image of Jesus Christ and I’d recommend you not watching it”
Han.
“This animation perverts the image of Jesus Christ and I’d recommend you not watching it”
NasCar 04/23/2025 16:47
I'll just introduce the topic casually when we eventually call
16:47
And then say what I think
Han. 04/23/2025 16:47
Ok
NasCar
How do I tell her without sounding like an asshole
serpente482 04/23/2025 19:52
"Thats blasphemy made by a bad person"
NasCar
How do I tell her without sounding like an asshole
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/23/2025 20:43
Be like him
Мико⚜🐾
Christ as a bull and not a sheep should already set off alarm bells
doge 04/24/2025 00:59
oh yeah isn't it like
00:59
known jesus has a lot of sheep imagery
01:00
or a lamb
Zoraxe 04/24/2025 04:04
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doge 04/24/2025 05:26
pretty sure luce is my profile picture on my personal facebook lmao
Zoraxe
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/24/2025 08:03
I trust her
Han. 04/24/2025 10:13
Coal
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/24/2025 16:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaFO_5-4kQE
Sargon of Akkad
Why I Am (Regrettably) Not A Christian
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/24/2025 17:05
Ffffffuuuuuuuuu
17:05
I was having an interesting theological discussion and then the live event ended
AaWoolf 04/26/2025 00:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdGUnSu49hg I really suggest watching this to those who havent yet
EnglishOrthodox Chants
Step to the Skies - Valaam Monastery Documentary
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/26/2025 09:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOlKdfxrgRw
Capturing Christianity
Is THIS the Antichrist? Christians Are Worried
09:45
Who the fuck is this geeza
09:46
No, son, you AIN'T the successor to Jesus. Did you not get the memo? Jesus is Lord. He's #1. You don't top that.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOlKdfxrgRw
Sandshrew40 04/26/2025 17:58
why does he look like russel brand
17:58
like a walmart brand
17:58
NasCar 04/27/2025 22:53
is this the black pope you guys were talking about?
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/29/2025 09:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZ5OjPob-0
Christian Anime Podcast
The REAL problem with the Chosen (and how to fix it)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZ5OjPob-0
serpente482 04/29/2025 09:30
What does the video say
09:30
I cant handle 6 minutes of anime and vtuber
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serpente482
I cant handle 6 minutes of anime and vtuber
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/29/2025 09:32
You're doing the thing
serpente482
What does the video say
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/29/2025 09:36
But since you want to judge (or be a zoomer and not have the attention span for a 6 minute video), the key points is this. >we live through a period of "hyper reality", which is where reality and fiction blur >"hyper reality" is how a lot of people intepret historical events (such as the bible) >therefore tv shows, movies etc which talk about the bible should be as accurate as possible to create a good medium for people to consume while also learning about the bible >and The Chosen falls short of this in a few areas
Plazma Silvara 04/29/2025 09:37
I can never take a video seriously
09:37
No matter what it is
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
You're doing the thing
serpente482 04/29/2025 10:12
its just disliking anime and vtubers
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
But since you want to judge (or be a zoomer and not have the attention span for a 6 minute video), the key points is this. >we live through a period of "hyper reality", which is where reality and fiction blur >"hyper reality" is how a lot of people intepret historical events (such as the bible) >therefore tv shows, movies etc which talk about the bible should be as accurate as possible to create a good medium for people to consume while also learning about the bible >and The Chosen falls short of this in a few areas
ungen 04/29/2025 12:06
I appreciate the tldr because I don't want spoilers for the chosen before I can watch it
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/30/2025 17:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhr8qr_5Shw
Wise Disciple
The New "Pope" Doesn't Know How to READ the Bible! | Pastor Reacts
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17:00
The antichrist is a fraud, who would've thunk it?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/30/2025 17:10
Nate's little knowledge drop about Caesarea Philippi was super interesting
17:10
The Bible just has so many layers to it.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhr8qr_5Shw
Мико⚜🐾 04/30/2025 17:21
what a larper lol
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
The Bible just has so many layers to it.
Мико⚜🐾 04/30/2025 17:21
thats true
17:21
I will watch this now
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Nate's little knowledge drop about Caesarea Philippi was super interesting
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/30/2025 17:22
Loads of context I wasn't aware of. This kinda proves Bible Study is a necessity.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 04/30/2025 19:00
skyfoil.exe — 19:58 Alright well, basically, the village I lived in, in Germany was extremely Christian. And we humans always seek some kind of meaning in life and despite living in literal paradise I was miserable and yet everyone around me just seemed so happy. I think that was the first initial nudge towards Christianity. I also got autistically obsessed with Astronomy while living there and the more I learned about Astronomy the more I was basically like "there's no way this was all random chance, it's too fine-tuned.". So by that point, I conceded that God must be real, just wasn't willing to say it was Yahweh. Then I came to a cross-roads. If God is real, maybe I should follow him. But which God is the real one? Well, I looked around at the cultural landscape and basically asked myself "whose side am I on? The Muslims? The Maxists? The groyper right wingers? the Christians?". So yeah, I more or less used that as an excuse to become a Christian. Basically for cultural/political reasons but I still doubted the story of Christ, it just seemed illogical to me. After, begrudgingly, calling myself a Christian, I realised I started to get attacked more and more by people for that choice. Both in work and in college. And Christ made it clear in the Bible that the world will hate those who follow him. So it seemed to be adding up in my eyes. Eventually, I made the choice to stop being a "luke-warm Christian" and I swore myself to Christ. And the day I swore myself to Christ I basically experienced a really bad demonic attack. Some entity basically was berating me for my choice, calling me stupid, a moron, not thinking straight etc. It was only when I cried out to Jesus that this entity left me alone. Since then, the deeper I fallen into scripture, the more it seems to reveal itself to be true. The closer I grow to Christ the happier I become and I become more bold as a Christian as a result. I'll never go back to Atheism. It's the illogical position imo.
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19:00
Someone asked for my testimony so I figured I'd share it here.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
skyfoil.exe — 19:58 Alright well, basically, the village I lived in, in Germany was extremely Christian. And we humans always seek some kind of meaning in life and despite living in literal paradise I was miserable and yet everyone around me just seemed so happy. I think that was the first initial nudge towards Christianity. I also got autistically obsessed with Astronomy while living there and the more I learned about Astronomy the more I was basically like "there's no way this was all random chance, it's too fine-tuned.". So by that point, I conceded that God must be real, just wasn't willing to say it was Yahweh. Then I came to a cross-roads. If God is real, maybe I should follow him. But which God is the real one? Well, I looked around at the cultural landscape and basically asked myself "whose side am I on? The Muslims? The Maxists? The groyper right wingers? the Christians?". So yeah, I more or less used that as an excuse to become a Christian. Basically for cultural/political reasons but I still doubted the story of Christ, it just seemed illogical to me. After, begrudgingly, calling myself a Christian, I realised I started to get attacked more and more by people for that choice. Both in work and in college. And Christ made it clear in the Bible that the world will hate those who follow him. So it seemed to be adding up in my eyes. Eventually, I made the choice to stop being a "luke-warm Christian" and I swore myself to Christ. And the day I swore myself to Christ I basically experienced a really bad demonic attack. Some entity basically was berating me for my choice, calling me stupid, a moron, not thinking straight etc. It was only when I cried out to Jesus that this entity left me alone. Since then, the deeper I fallen into scripture, the more it seems to reveal itself to be true. The closer I grow to Christ the happier I become and I become more bold as a Christian as a result. I'll never go back to Atheism. It's the illogical position imo.
Extra-sensory PURRception 04/30/2025 19:07
It was nice reading about your religious journey in one text this time. I'm still stuck between my current belief and Christianity, which aren't too far away when it comes to most thing in my opinion (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhr8qr_5Shw
VikingTiger6 04/30/2025 19:27
Can you summarize this, I haven't the time to watch it
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 05/05/2025 09:41
https://vxtwitter.com/malachite_manul/status/1919326145457119252?t=C4ouGyUtmlZRNGwiKbVLQg&s=19 (edited)
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 ☦ (@malachite_m...
That person has the energy of a rebellious teenager. God didn't tell us we can do whatever we want for a reason. To protect us. Like a parent telling his child to not stick a fork into an electrical outlet
QRT: DelusionPosting https://t.co/BpYOa9Bczg
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𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
https://vxtwitter.com/malachite_manul/status/1919326145457119252?t=C4ouGyUtmlZRNGwiKbVLQg&s=19 (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/05/2025 12:53
They really think this is liberation when in reality it's just them trapping themselves in addition and self satisfaction
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/06/2025 07:41
Psalm 38:18
BibleBot BOT 05/06/2025 07:41
Psalm 38:18 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<18> I confess my iniquity, I am sorry for my sin.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/06/2025 07:41
Oh wait wrong verse
07:41
Psalm 34:18
BibleBot BOT 05/06/2025 07:41
Psalm 34:18 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<18> The Lord is near to the brokenhearted, and saves the crushed in spirit.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/06/2025 07:42
Psalm 34:18-19
BibleBot BOT 05/06/2025 07:42
Psalm 34:18-19 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<18> The Lord is near to the brokenhearted, and saves the crushed in spirit. <19> Many are the afflictions of the righteous; but the Lord delivers him out of them all.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/06/2025 07:42
Matthew 11:28
BibleBot BOT 05/06/2025 07:42
Matthew 11:28 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<28> Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/06/2025 13:21
Oh, Heavenly Father
13:21
Deliver me to the gates of Hell...
13:21
So I can give Satan a bloody drubbing.
13:21
VikingTiger6 05/06/2025 21:35
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VikingTiger6 05/08/2025 02:49
learned about this martyr Dirk Willems, he was imprisoned for his beliefs and managed to escape, the guard chasing him fell through the ice, Dirk chose to rescue his enemy from certain death and this act of love led to his recapture and costed his life, he was later burnt at the stake
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/08/2025 15:36
Been heavily struggling with lust lately. I think my willpower in resisting was finally wearing thin. Had a very emotionally charged uhh... Argument with God. Basically said, I get that you allow us to be tempted to strengthen us but willpower is also a finite resource and I'm about to go head first into sin. Just give me a break here and help cloud out those thoughts so I can actually focus on the shit that matters...
15:36
And you know what? God delivered on that. Sure I can still envision raunchy things but they immediately leave my mind.
15:37
God is always good. You just sometimes gotta wrestle with him.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
God is always good. You just sometimes gotta wrestle with him.
ungen 05/08/2025 16:20
As Jacob did.
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VikingTiger6 05/08/2025 17:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbGalhsFNGI
Updated Works
A Self-Defensive War Lawful (Revolutionary War Sermon, Modern English)
NasCar 05/08/2025 17:57
Making jokes about it has helped me with lust
18:00
Like saying retarded shit
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/08/2025 18:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgBWYYFavko
Wise Disciple
The Mahdi Cult Went After Me... Here's My Response
18:01
Nate cooking with this video
Мико⚜🐾 05/09/2025 19:00
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/09/2025 20:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5CQnSf_220
Fervent FOR JESUS with Theo
They Mocked God Publicly — and THEN THIS Happened After.....
20:24
Man, the world really does hate Jesus, huh?
VikingTiger6 05/09/2025 23:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l7fc7K069k
Updated Works
Are you Born Again? (J.C Ryle Sermon)
serpente482 05/09/2025 23:25
I read the first homily of Leon XIV
23:28
He complained about lukewarm christians calling them practical atheists, people who ridicule those who share the gospel because they see themselves as smarter, people who replace faith with technology, power, money or pleasure who end up feeling hollow and are the cause of the rise on hate and the family crisis
23:29
He also said people use to see Jesus as just a charismatic leader until they listen the moral requirements then they get mad and try to erase xhim
23:31
good stuff
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/10/2025 10:06
https://x.com/AFpost/status/1920994266954035369
AF Post (@AFpost) on X
The rector of Pope Leo XIV’s cathedral clarified the Pope’s position on homosexuality, illustrating his commitment to traditional Catholic teaching and moral clarity. “I’ve ministered to Catholic homosexuals in the cathedral, and the Pope would welcome them, but with the message
10:06
He's a man of Christ, there was no doubt about it.
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱 05/10/2025 10:07
My opinion on homosexuals is simple Just being attracted to the same sex isn't a sin Acting up on those desires in any way is a sin however
𝓜𝓪𝓵𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓽𝓮 🐾🇵🇱
My opinion on homosexuals is simple Just being attracted to the same sex isn't a sin Acting up on those desires in any way is a sin however
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/10/2025 10:08
That's an ice cold Christian take tbh
10:09
The sinner and the sin are two different things. Love one, hate the other
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/10/2025 10:48
Мико⚜🐾 05/10/2025 14:37
https://youtu.be/HZjS4s8yi_g
Wrengan
Pavel G. Chesnokov - To Thee We Sing
VikingTiger6 05/10/2025 18:32
Twitter comments pissing me off
VikingTiger6
Twitter comments pissing me off
serpente482 05/10/2025 18:48
all 4 of those comments dont know what the post was about
VikingTiger6
Twitter comments pissing me off
Мико⚜🐾 05/10/2025 19:23
beep boop
19:23
Мико⚜🐾
beep boop
VikingTiger6 05/10/2025 19:38
Literally
19:38
Everywhere I look the internet is fake (edited)
19:39
Its all Indians and bots
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/10/2025 21:21
I'm like
21:21
I look at the world around us and all the BS going on
21:21
And shit makes me wanna become a hermit
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Мико⚜🐾 05/10/2025 23:27
https://youtu.be/8s7eM9kYpDw
The Oktavism Channel
Kovcheg Male Voice Ensemble - We Praise Thee (Rachmaninov) - Audio ...
Мико⚜🐾 05/13/2025 18:42
“..The Life-Giving Cross reminds (the sinner) of the bloody price with which the Lord saved our humankind. Be there no sacrifice of Christ on the Cross, no amount of repentance would remove our guilt for our sin: guilty—then you must answer; sin—then you must pay. But the Lord by His mercy loved us sinners so much that He brought Himself to sacrifice for our sins. He took upon Himself the sins of mankind, had them nailed to the Cross, as we say in our prayers, and by this sacrifice created salvation for all of humanity. It is not for the sake of our prayers of repentance, but for the sake of the podvig (подвиг) on the Cross of His Only-Begotten Son that God the Father will accept our repentance, and we will be cleansed of our sins, after which we are prepared to receive the Holy Gifts." `Saint Philaret of New York, a homily on the first Friday of Great Lent`
VikingTiger6 05/16/2025 05:34
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/877766622474022943/1372638197372420158/RPReplay_Final1747332814.mov?ex=68278070&is=68262ef0&hm=37c078698336ea8d545b6a1046962b172ff7755d34fead5ecee49205a7ab851c&
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Мико⚜🐾 05/16/2025 15:26
https://youtu.be/pD4wyKOAd0w chesnokov's compositions️
VitaliyGR
Chesnokov - Cherubic Hymn Op. 27-5
Han. 05/17/2025 08:03
Can someone tell me actual verses from Islam that makes it blasphemous
08:03
I need to know so in the future I can remember them by heart and tell it to other ppl
VikingTiger6 05/17/2025 16:28
Look up the channel nabi asli
Мико⚜🐾 05/22/2025 06:19
Мико⚜🐾 05/22/2025 16:48
VikingTiger6 05/22/2025 19:28
https://archive.gci.org/articles/sabbath-and-sunday-in-the-early-church/ interesting article i read
Sabbath and Sunday in the Early Church - GCI Archive
Visit gci.org and browse Grace Communion International's extensive library of articles on God, the Bible, faith, and the Christian Life.
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Мико⚜🐾 05/23/2025 08:02
‘The Lawgiver of our life has enjoined upon us one single hatred. I mean, that of the Serpent: for no other purpose has He bidden us exercise this faculty of hatred, but as a resource against wickedness. “I will put enmity,” He says, “between you and him.” Since wickedness is a complicated and multifarious thing, the Word allegorizes it by the Serpent, the dense array of whose scales is symbolic of this multiformity of evil. And we by working the will of our Adversary make an alliance with this serpent, and so turn this hatred against one another, and perhaps not against ourselves alone, but against Him Who gave the commandment; for He says, “You shall love your neighbour and hate your enemy,” commanding us to hold the foe to our humanity as our only enemy, and declaring that all who share that humanity are the neighbours of each one of us. But this gross-hearted age has disunited us from our neighbour, and has made us welcome the serpent, and revel in his spotted scales. I affirm, then, that it is a lawful thing to hate God's enemies, and that this kind of hatred is pleasing to our Lord: and by God's enemies I mean those who deny the glory of our Lord, be they Jews, or downright idolaters, or those who through Arius' teaching idolize the creature, and so adopt the error of the Jews.’
`Saint Gregory of Nyssa, Letter XVII, on righteous hatred of enemies of God` (edited)
Han. 05/23/2025 11:03
I agree
Sogga 05/23/2025 13:45
didnt read but i agree too
Мико⚜🐾 05/23/2025 17:33
https://vxtwitter.com/blessedmikko/status/1925966705127206943
Микко (@blessedmikko)
Saints Athanasius and Cyril of Alexandria on the necessity and brevity of the atonement, and Jesus Christ bearing the justice, the wrath, that was due our way:
VikingTiger6 05/23/2025 19:09
https://www.covenanter.org/reformed/2016/5/22/womens-rights-women dude predicted feminism would lead to lgbt
Women’s Rights Women. — Reformed Presbyterian Church (Covenante...
1871-Robert L. Dabney (1820-1898).-What is it that the women’s rights movement really wanted? Dabney addresses the foolishness of feminism and predicts that it will lead the way to the acceptance of sodomy. What a strange idea!?!
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Мико⚜🐾 05/23/2025 19:10
smart man
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/24/2025 14:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK9XgMvTfHg
Historically
The Jesus Problem
14:36
Well, this was a delightful surprise from someone who I can only presume is an Atheist.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Well, this was a delightful surprise from someone who I can only presume is an Atheist.
Sogga 05/24/2025 14:49
he's Christian btw
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/27/2025 11:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xymCLNwVBNg
Wise Disciple
"Pastor" LIES to His Church to Cover Up SIN! | Pastor Reacts
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I swear it seems anyone can become a """Pastor""" now and just preach whatever makes them feel happy.
11:53
Know them by their fruits.
serpente482 05/27/2025 12:23
but you dont understand the church is corrupt and has stayed away from the Bible so i will create a new Church which will have the correct interpretation, mine
12:23
many such cases
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/27/2025 12:25
Anyone saying "you don't need the Bible" while also proclaiming to be a Pastor is the ultimate red flag
serpente482
but you dont understand the church is corrupt and has stayed away from the Bible so i will create a new Church which will have the correct interpretation, mine
Randnew 05/27/2025 13:20
If we do it for the millionth time, it will work
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/27/2025 18:16
Ecclesiastes 3:8
BibleBot BOT 05/27/2025 18:16
Ecclesiastes 3:8 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<8> a time to love, and a time to hate; a time for war, and a time for peace.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/27/2025 18:20
Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
BibleBot BOT 05/27/2025 18:20
Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Everything Has Its Time
<1> For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven: <2> a time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted; <3> a time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; <4> a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; <5> a time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; <6> a time to seek, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; <7> a time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; <8> a time to love, and a time to hate; a time for war, and a time for peace.
Мико⚜🐾 05/27/2025 19:05
https://x.com/blessedmikko/status/1927439544082657633
Микко (@blessedmikko)
Saint Philaret of Moscow on the love Christ had for, and the due honour He paid to His mother, as all are expected to do (Exodus 20.12; Deut 5.16), even unto His Passion and death:
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/29/2025 19:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epv6d8UItP8
Wise Disciple
The Problem of Evil Just Got CRUSHED by John Lennox — Here’s How
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Really really good watch
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epv6d8UItP8
Sogga 05/29/2025 19:54
i thought john lennox was a play on john lennon
19:54
like latinx
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/30/2025 09:20
@Мико⚜🐾 @serpente482 Do you believe in the notion of "once saved always saved" or do you think your salvation can be lost?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 @serpente482 Do you believe in the notion of "once saved always saved" or do you think your salvation can be lost?
serpente482 05/30/2025 09:25
Depends how you consider that saved statement
09:25
You can have faith and lose it
09:25
For whatever reason
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/30/2025 09:25
Saved being inherent the kingdom of God.
09:25
Or, go to heaven.
serpente482 05/30/2025 09:26
Once you reach heaven yeah
09:26
You will always be saved
09:26
Eternal life and whatnot
Мико⚜🐾 05/30/2025 09:26
No, Hebrews 6 clearly teaches that you can forsake the gift of the Holy Spirit
09:26
OSAS is false
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/30/2025 09:26
Hebrews 6:1-10
BibleBot BOT 05/30/2025 09:26
Hebrews 6:1-10 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
The Peril of Falling Away
<1> Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, <2> with instruction about ablutions, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. <3> And this we will do if God permits. <4> For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, <5> and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, <6> if they then commit apostasy, since they crucify the Son of God on their own account and hold him up to contempt. <7> For land which has drunk the rain that often falls upon it, and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God. <8> But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed; its end is to be burned. <9> Though we speak thus, yet in your case, beloved, we feel sure of better things that belong to salvation. <10> For God is not so unjust as to overlook your work and the love which you showed for his sake in serving the saints, as you still do.
Мико⚜🐾
No, Hebrews 6 clearly teaches that you can forsake the gift of the Holy Spirit
serpente482 05/30/2025 09:27
He said after death and in heaven i think
Мико⚜🐾
No, Hebrews 6 clearly teaches that you can forsake the gift of the Holy Spirit
Мико⚜🐾 05/30/2025 09:27
Romans 11 as well is also clear
serpente482
He said after death and in heaven i think
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 05/30/2025 09:27
No, I mean before death.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
No, I mean before death.
serpente482 05/30/2025 09:27
Ah, then yeah of course you can lose salvation
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If you choose to abandon the path of God
Мико⚜🐾
Romans 11 as well is also clear
Мико⚜🐾 05/30/2025 09:29
Romans 11:16-22
BibleBot BOT 05/30/2025 09:29
Romans 11:16-22 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<16> For if the firstfruit be holy, so is the lump also: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. <17> And if some of the branches be broken, and thou, being a wild olive, art ingrafted in them, and art made partaker of the root, and of the fatness of the olive tree, <18> Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. <19> Thou wilt say then: The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. <20> Well: because of unbelief they were broken off. But thou standest by faith: be not highminded, but fear. <21> For if God hath not spared the natural branches, fear lest perhaps he also spare not thee. <22> See then the goodness and the severity of God: towards them indeed that are fallen, the severity; but towards thee, the goodness of God, if thou abide in goodness, otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Мико⚜🐾 05/30/2025 09:31
Now, how is this reconciled with predestination? It is reconcilable inasmuch as, well, God in His foreknowledge of you coming to the Church and falling away, does not withhold His grace from you when you receive the sacraments, when pray and you ask for repentance, when you do good things for His sake. If this were not true, we would have no way whatsoever to diffrentiate between who is a Christian and who is not, and we wouldn't be able to be sure whether we are experiencing God at all. (edited)
09:32
Who is actually on the path and who isn't: and then the whole point for the idea of OSAS goes out of the window. Because a doctrine that was supposed to give the believer assurance in reality gives anything but that
Мико⚜🐾
OSAS is false
Zoraxe 05/30/2025 09:34
I saw discussion last week about somebody's belief in OSAS and predestination. To my understanding, they saw it more as: God knows you would be saved, so you will at some point in your earthly life be filled with the Holy Spirit and remain faithful to the end of your life. From our human perspective, it looks like we obtained that from our overcoming of trials and having faith while it was "known all along" that you would be saved under God's omniscience. On the other hand, those either not having faith or falling from grace were known not to be saved, and would never be through their own condemnation, current or eventual. I guess their argument was OSAS and predestination are determinable from God's side, but it isn't something that we can really prophesize from our perspective? At least, that's how it felt the conclusion of their discussion was
Мико⚜🐾
Who is actually on the path and who isn't: and then the whole point for the idea of OSAS goes out of the window. Because a doctrine that was supposed to give the believer assurance in reality gives anything but that
Zoraxe 05/30/2025 09:37
Reading this over kinda fills in that rebuttal to their argument
Мико⚜🐾 05/30/2025 09:45
What needs to be clarified here in such conversation is a distinction between the different type of grace that God bestows
Мико⚜🐾 05/30/2025 09:54
You have irresistible grace: this is going to be grace that you cannot reject, as much as one may want to. This grace is the grace that God bestows upon all of creation, including Mankind, to sustain it and keep it in its natural order, and also constitutes as natural goods God bestows upon creation too (rain, sunshine, heat etc.) Then you have sufficient or better yet, efficacious grace. Which is going to be the grace that God gives to Man in order to perform supernatural goods, especially for His sake, or natural goods without sin being involved. Thirdly, you have previenient grace, this is a unique grace that God gives to Man, and can be the first factor in the conversion of a prospective believer. This can be rejected in part or wholly, not everyone who is called is chosen ultimately. That means that God, although He gives these graces to people, apart from the irresistible grace of course (we can't will ourselves out of existence for instance), some if not most reject it eventually. The grace or nudge that is given to pray and repent also falls under this, prevenient grace is also the grace that God gives to reconcile His children with Him after sin or falling away. (edited)
09:57
Salvific grace is going to be the grace of God, finally, that can heal Man, restore Him and deify Him. This is bestowed through the sacraments of the Church.
09:59
Now, people who fall away receive under these definitions all 4 graces from God.
Zoraxe
I saw discussion last week about somebody's belief in OSAS and predestination. To my understanding, they saw it more as: God knows you would be saved, so you will at some point in your earthly life be filled with the Holy Spirit and remain faithful to the end of your life. From our human perspective, it looks like we obtained that from our overcoming of trials and having faith while it was "known all along" that you would be saved under God's omniscience. On the other hand, those either not having faith or falling from grace were known not to be saved, and would never be through their own condemnation, current or eventual. I guess their argument was OSAS and predestination are determinable from God's side, but it isn't something that we can really prophesize from our perspective? At least, that's how it felt the conclusion of their discussion was
Мико⚜🐾 05/30/2025 10:00
Well then that's not going to be OSAS, but just perseverance of the saints
10:00
Which no one would deny
10:00
There are some people whom God gives enough prevenient grace to a believer to persevere in Him until the end of their life
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What I would reject is the notion that the Holy Spirit remains within such people throughout their whole life—because grace is withdrawn from you as a result of sin. People who are predestined in Christ still sin.
10:02
What I would suggest instead is that, at some point grace will return to them
Sogga 05/30/2025 10:02
my name is sogga
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Zoraxe
I saw discussion last week about somebody's belief in OSAS and predestination. To my understanding, they saw it more as: God knows you would be saved, so you will at some point in your earthly life be filled with the Holy Spirit and remain faithful to the end of your life. From our human perspective, it looks like we obtained that from our overcoming of trials and having faith while it was "known all along" that you would be saved under God's omniscience. On the other hand, those either not having faith or falling from grace were known not to be saved, and would never be through their own condemnation, current or eventual. I guess their argument was OSAS and predestination are determinable from God's side, but it isn't something that we can really prophesize from our perspective? At least, that's how it felt the conclusion of their discussion was
Randnew 05/30/2025 13:31
We affirm this view of OSAS. However some people in the "faith alone" sphere have a view of OSAS that says that no sin can break faith, even the sin of unbelief. These people think that even if you apostasize, you still have faith & will be saved
Arcane BOT 05/30/2025 13:31
@Randnew has reached level 7. GG!
Мико⚜🐾 05/30/2025 20:22
https://youtu.be/1ppGrQIYIlU
Orthodox Wisdom
"Churchless Christianity" Destroys Christianity - St. Hilarion Troi...
Мико⚜🐾 05/30/2025 20:30
https://youtu.be/nYvpS4siUO0
Patristic Nectar
Living with Regrets
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/01/2025 14:58
@Мико⚜🐾
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Мико⚜🐾 06/01/2025 15:11
I saw this on Xitter earlier
Мико⚜🐾
I saw this on Xitter earlier
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/01/2025 15:21
Pride is the root cause of all sin. Isn't it poetic that the movement dedicated to sodomy is called "Pride"?
Randnew 06/01/2025 17:21
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Randnew
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Randnew 06/01/2025 19:25
The Prophet Jeremiah foretold that God's holy temple would become a den of thieves
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This image is 1 of my favorite depictions of Jesus
19:26
It portrays a side of Him that is often overlooked
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He is the exorcism of the world
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The ENTIRE world. All periods of time
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& He has no tolerance of evil whatsoever
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Not even a little bit, because the majesty of God is infinite
19:28
These moneychangers & victim sellers were committing a grave sin
19:29
Turning the temple into a marketplace for their own benefit
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/01/2025 19:53
Y'know, I feel like I don't defend my faith or my morals hard enough and I've realised it's mostly because I'm in communities which have a left-wing lean and I've contributed to these communities enough to where that I think it'd hurt lose my contributions to those communities or be kicked out. Think I'm satisfying the world a tiny bit too much. I dunno what the solution to that is. Burned enough bridges in my life that I don't feel like burning more.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Y'know, I feel like I don't defend my faith or my morals hard enough and I've realised it's mostly because I'm in communities which have a left-wing lean and I've contributed to these communities enough to where that I think it'd hurt lose my contributions to those communities or be kicked out. Think I'm satisfying the world a tiny bit too much. I dunno what the solution to that is. Burned enough bridges in my life that I don't feel like burning more.
Sogga 06/01/2025 19:59
most likely because your morals revolve around purposefully misinterpreting the Bible in order to justify your bad actions
19:59
the sooner you realise it, the better it is for you and the people involved
Мико⚜🐾
‘The Lawgiver of our life has enjoined upon us one single hatred. I mean, that of the Serpent: for no other purpose has He bidden us exercise this faculty of hatred, but as a resource against wickedness. “I will put enmity,” He says, “between you and him.” Since wickedness is a complicated and multifarious thing, the Word allegorizes it by the Serpent, the dense array of whose scales is symbolic of this multiformity of evil. And we by working the will of our Adversary make an alliance with this serpent, and so turn this hatred against one another, and perhaps not against ourselves alone, but against Him Who gave the commandment; for He says, “You shall love your neighbour and hate your enemy,” commanding us to hold the foe to our humanity as our only enemy, and declaring that all who share that humanity are the neighbours of each one of us. But this gross-hearted age has disunited us from our neighbour, and has made us welcome the serpent, and revel in his spotted scales. I affirm, then, that it is a lawful thing to hate God's enemies, and that this kind of hatred is pleasing to our Lord: and by God's enemies I mean those who deny the glory of our Lord, be they Jews, or downright idolaters, or those who through Arius' teaching idolize the creature, and so adopt the error of the Jews.’
`Saint Gregory of Nyssa, Letter XVII, on righteous hatred of enemies of God` (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 06/01/2025 20:04
he doesn't misinterpret scripture.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Y'know, I feel like I don't defend my faith or my morals hard enough and I've realised it's mostly because I'm in communities which have a left-wing lean and I've contributed to these communities enough to where that I think it'd hurt lose my contributions to those communities or be kicked out. Think I'm satisfying the world a tiny bit too much. I dunno what the solution to that is. Burned enough bridges in my life that I don't feel like burning more.
Мико⚜🐾 06/01/2025 20:06
You will build new ones in place of the old ones. I lost a lot of friends after really thinking about the toxicity and amorality of my college friend group, how it was affecting me and had caused me to do quite a lot of things I wouldn't have done on my own, and then simultaneously taking Christianity more seriously and inquiring the Orthodox Church, also working out too... basically drifted away from all of them except 1
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/01/2025 20:07
Bad company corrupts.
Мико⚜🐾 06/01/2025 20:07
Last year, I made new frens, and I met you guys online too before I did that
20:07
And was still a bit alone irl
Мико⚜🐾
And was still a bit alone irl
Sogga 06/01/2025 20:21
you wont be after i arrive
VikingTiger6 06/02/2025 19:14
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/03/2025 09:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcN6ov9mSbE
Wise Disciple
Woke "Pastor" Sounds Just Like the SERPENT In the Garden! | Pastor ...
09:50
The first and immediate issue with the idea that "God lied" or "God was wrong about this one particular thing in scripture" is that you throw the entirety of scripture into question.
09:50
So if God lies and some parts of scripture aren't God's word then you can easily say other parts of scripture aren't relevant.
09:50
Then you get a slippery slope where you shave off so much of the Bible until you're left with choice picks that suit yourself.
09:55
https://vxtwitter.com/Wendigoon8/status/1929688504084131873
Wendigoon (@Wendigoon8)
I keep seeing AI videos of Bible characters
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/03/2025 21:41
Psalm 94:1-2
BibleBot BOT 06/03/2025 21:41
Psalm 94:1-2 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
God the Avenger of the Righteous
<1> O Lord, thou God of vengeance, thou God of vengeance, shine forth! <2> Rise up, O judge of the earth; render to the proud their deserts!
Zoraxe 06/04/2025 03:55
I've got a question: how moral is it for Christians to participate in market investment activities? I assume it depends on the activity and potentially the types of investment. There's two things that get me thinking about it. For one: the charging of excessive interest which may happen from certain banks and businesses, but we're also called to exempt friends from interest when lending to them (and the lending itself should, of course, not entice malicious actions). The 2nd and more serious concern is the types of business you invest in. The most egregious example I can think of was investing into a pharmaceutical company like Pfizer during the Pandemic. I had a few friends suggest that idea because their company was legitimately growing as govts threw money at them and forcefully rolled their product out to people through mandates. It just didn't sit right with me (to put lightly) to make such investments when I considered their business actions as evil & corrupt. Other possibilities include corporations that push DEI in their ranks or marketing. I understand from a business perspective, one might think more about PR than morals, but then that traps business actions to a morally relative realm. There's also the business tendency to disregard morals entirely to satisfy the "bottom line" and shareholder interest.
04:00
Am I "stupid" for choosing to avoid market participations because of these concerns, or am I right to question participating? The closest I have to investments at the moment is a 401k through my work, and I might choose to invest in a mutual fund at the recommendation of my father. However, it doesn't sit right with me to do daily trades or have a stock portfolio of my own. I just have moral compunctions towards participating in that system even though I have some respected friends that recommend it often (edited)
VikingTiger6 06/04/2025 06:00
I wouldn't say lending and investing are the same thing
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/04/2025 08:01
I think it comes down to motive. Is it for the love of money? Is it for financial security? What then do you plan to use your investments on?
IRA's #1 funder 06/04/2025 14:13
# heil odinn italians arent white
IRA's #1 funder
# heil odinn italians arent white
serpente482 06/04/2025 14:29
Irish arent white aswell by the larping metrics you are using doe
serpente482
Irish arent white aswell by the larping metrics you are using doe
IRA's #1 funder 06/04/2025 14:34
Irish people are the most white and most homogenous people in Europe... Wdym...
IRA's #1 funder
Irish people are the most white and most homogenous people in Europe... Wdym...
serpente482 06/04/2025 14:35
https://history.howstuffworks.com/historical-events/when-irish-immigrants-werent-considered-white.htm
When Irish Immigrants Weren't Considered 'White'
In the mid-1800s, the white American establishment feared Irish immigrants would alter the country's makeup with foreign religion and customs.
14:36
italians were romans at least
14:36
irish are in the raped side of europe
14:36
same as poles
IRA's #1 funder 06/04/2025 14:37
I don't need to read this slop
14:37
let us consult the graphs
serpente482 06/04/2025 14:37
14:38
shut up negro turned inside out
IRA's #1 funder 06/04/2025 14:38
Arcane BOT 06/04/2025 14:38
@IRA's #1 funder has reached level 10. GG!
IRA's #1 funder 06/04/2025 14:39
you are blacker than me
14:39
DNI
IRA's #1 funder
you are blacker than me
serpente482 06/04/2025 14:40
not really
14:40
you may be paler
14:40
but you are just a negro turned inside out
IRA's #1 funder 06/04/2025 14:41
Dont need to hear this from someone in this region
serpente482 06/04/2025 14:41
if you never had a colony you cant be called european
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sorry
14:42
imagine larping as white as an inside out negro whose history culture and language was eareased by people who conquered your country
14:42
LMAO
IRA's #1 funder 06/04/2025 14:43
mediterranean nigger babble
IRA's #1 funder
mediterranean nigger babble
serpente482 06/04/2025 14:43
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IRA's #1 funder 06/04/2025 14:43
if you're going to be black at least be full black like mikko
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serpente482 06/04/2025 14:45
shush negro
IRA's #1 funder 06/04/2025 14:45
unrelated mediterranean seething
14:45
Thankful the brits colonised ireland and that it wasnt the spaniards
14:46
Imagine having to speak spanish that must be horrible
serpente482 06/04/2025 14:47
we wuz white we wuz white
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14:47
IRA's #1 funder
Imagine having to speak spanish that must be horrible
serpente482 06/04/2025 14:48
Mexicans are conquering america
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they are whiter than irish
IRA's #1 funder 06/04/2025 14:48
Unreal cope
IRA's #1 funder
Unreal cope
serpente482 06/04/2025 14:49
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IRA's #1 funder 06/04/2025 14:51
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Not white
IRA's #1 funder
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serpente482 06/04/2025 14:51
actual white people
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the other are sunless fags
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Мико⚜🐾 06/04/2025 16:39
https://vxtwitter.com/ScriptoriumP/status/1930283184932966450
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A 3rd-century Christian hymn from Egypt The earliest recorded Christian hymn was discovered in Oxyrhynchus in Egypt (P. Oxy. XV 1786) in 1918. Remarkably, it even preserves the ancient musical notes. The fragmentary lyrics read: ...ὁμοῦ πᾶσαι τε Θεοῦ λόγιμοι... ....[πρ]υτανήω σιγάτω, μηδ' ἄστρα φαεσφόρα λ[αμπέ]σθων...ποταμῶν ῥοθίων πᾶσαι. Υμνούντων δ' ἡμῶν [Π]ατέρα χ' Υἱὸν χ' Ἅγιον Πνεῦμα, πᾶσαι δυνάμεις ἐπιφωνούντων· Ἀμήν, Ἀμήν, κράτος, αἶνος...δ[ωτ]ῆ[ρι] μόνῳ πάντων ἀγαθῶν· Ἀμήν, Ἀμήν. "...together, and all the eminent ones of God ...in the [as]sembly, may [it] be silent, may the radiant stars not s[hi]ne...all the rushing of the rivers. As we hymn the [F]ather and the Son and the Holy Spirit, as the powers cry out…
16:40
we alr went over this the other week, the average spaniard is like 10% african at best. barely any genetic admixture. even the graph you posted shows that (edited)
16:41
are they absolutely identical to the Goths, no, but they're still White
16:42
the Irish used to get bullied by the English, yall are victims, well were, because you guys sorted yourselves out (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
https://vxtwitter.com/ScriptoriumP/status/1930283184932966450
Мико⚜🐾 06/04/2025 16:43
anyways, listen to this really nice hymn
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/04/2025 17:14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sj59nrNetQ
Wise Disciple
“I’m Not Sure I’m Going to Heaven…” (Francis Chan Wasn’...
17:14
Nate posting another diamond
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I think it comes down to motive. Is it for the love of money? Is it for financial security? What then do you plan to use your investments on?
Zoraxe 06/05/2025 00:59
I suppose it would eventually be for retirement or buying a house. Beyond that and if it's before retirement, I guess personal hobbies or attempts at entrepreneur-ship
01:00
But I'm not in any financial trouble at the moment aside from the fact I could be saving more
Zoraxe
I suppose it would eventually be for retirement or buying a house. Beyond that and if it's before retirement, I guess personal hobbies or attempts at entrepreneur-ship
Randnew 06/05/2025 01:25
Some take vows of poverty but while that is holy, it's admittedly is not for everyone (edited)
Zoraxe
I've got a question: how moral is it for Christians to participate in market investment activities? I assume it depends on the activity and potentially the types of investment. There's two things that get me thinking about it. For one: the charging of excessive interest which may happen from certain banks and businesses, but we're also called to exempt friends from interest when lending to them (and the lending itself should, of course, not entice malicious actions). The 2nd and more serious concern is the types of business you invest in. The most egregious example I can think of was investing into a pharmaceutical company like Pfizer during the Pandemic. I had a few friends suggest that idea because their company was legitimately growing as govts threw money at them and forcefully rolled their product out to people through mandates. It just didn't sit right with me (to put lightly) to make such investments when I considered their business actions as evil & corrupt. Other possibilities include corporations that push DEI in their ranks or marketing. I understand from a business perspective, one might think more about PR than morals, but then that traps business actions to a morally relative realm. There's also the business tendency to disregard morals entirely to satisfy the "bottom line" and shareholder interest.
Мико⚜🐾 06/05/2025 03:34
Depends on the intention behind the investment and what one is investing
03:34
But no, making money is not evil
Randnew 06/05/2025 03:50
It's only evil when you use that power for evil
Randnew 06/05/2025 04:20
John 17:20-26
BibleBot BOT 06/05/2025 04:20
John 17:20-26 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<20> "I do not pray for these only, but also for those who believe in me through their word, <21> that they may all be one; even as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. <22> The glory which thou hast given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, <23> I in them and thou in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that thou hast sent me and hast loved them even as thou hast loved me. <24> Father, I desire that they also, whom thou hast given me, may be with me where I am, to behold my glory which thou hast given me in thy love for me before the foundation of the world. <25> O righteous Father, the world has not known thee, but I have known thee; and these know that thou hast sent me. <26> I made known to them thy name, and I will make it known, that the love with which thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them."
Мико⚜🐾 06/05/2025 06:08
https://youtu.be/C1uxTsWe1LI
Jeem
The Rabbinic Distortion of the Law of Moses
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 01:01
An artist I was following was begged by viewers to draw smut, so they did (the 18+ marking in their name was originally only for bloodiness because they drew war stuff). They claim to be to Catholic in their bio. I'm moreso trying to wrap my head around their justification
01:05
She explained how "beloved classical artists looked at nude stuff in the past": for one, isn't that morally relative in justifying your actions? Two, if you really needed to make it, did it need to be shared to others? I can understand practicing anatomy to some extent, but even then. I made a point that making & presenting such material will only attract an audience that wants it for just that, and that will continue to undermine the "spirit" of their work that she claims it to have. (edited)
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01:14
I personally think it's a false equivalence between those sins as it does not account for the nuances of the direction of those behaviors. As for mentions to "eating, sleeping, etc.", arguably a non sequitur. What does it have to do with creating sinfully-encouraging content or not?
01:17
I hope sharing this here does not come off as petty discussion, but I felt that sharing the thoughts on it might have some importance as I learn to reason with how people justify these actions
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:05
@Мико⚜🐾 You're right. The woman in John 8 probably didn't even commit adultery
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Zoraxe
She explained how "beloved classical artists looked at nude stuff in the past": for one, isn't that morally relative in justifying your actions? Two, if you really needed to make it, did it need to be shared to others? I can understand practicing anatomy to some extent, but even then. I made a point that making & presenting such material will only attract an audience that wants it for just that, and that will continue to undermine the "spirit" of their work that she claims it to have. (edited)
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:08
Nudity is not trad
03:08
A lot of religious art way back when was blasphemous goonslop
03:09
But it was made a long time ago so all of a sudden it's "trad & based"
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:09
That's why I'm saying
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:09
I think anatomy can be depicted in a moral way, but there needs to be a good reason
03:10
Most of the time it's goonslop
Zoraxe
An artist I was following was begged by viewers to draw smut, so they did (the 18+ marking in their name was originally only for bloodiness because they drew war stuff). They claim to be to Catholic in their bio. I'm moreso trying to wrap my head around their justification
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:14
I just looked at the actual post
Randnew
Most of the time it's goonslop
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:14
For context, I believe it was a rabbit and some other furry character getting d*cked down. I haven't seen the actual picture because it was only on their Bluesky and (appropriately) marked under adult content
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:15
Yeah that doesn't look okay
03:15
There's never a reason to depict s*x
Zoraxe
For context, I believe it was a rabbit and some other furry character getting d*cked down. I haven't seen the actual picture because it was only on their Bluesky and (appropriately) marked under adult content
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:16
lol her marking under adult content demonstrates full awareness that she's up to no good
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:16
I made my attempt, but the last thing they sent me was some 5-post explanation of why it needed to be in the story. I've disengaged at this point
03:18
Pray that she repents. Quite contradictory that she claims to be Catholic and then tries justifying this on top saying she'll draw it again next week
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Randnew 06/06/2025 03:18
There are better more creative ways of depicting nasty slop, if there is even a reason to depict anything nasty to begin eith
Zoraxe
Pray that she repents. Quite contradictory that she claims to be Catholic and then tries justifying this on top saying she'll draw it again next week
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:18
It's worse than a leftyfag drawing coal
03:18
She's a wolf in sheep's cloathing
03:19
"Traditional art was nude." So? Well "traditional" art was bad then
03:20
I don't care if your sin is "trad"
03:20
It's stupid
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:20
There's a saying that we tend to disagree more with people that are close to our beliefs more than those who completely disagree. I suppose in the latter, it's more predictable that they will disagree
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:20
Stuff like this frustrates me
Zoraxe
There's a saying that we tend to disagree more with people that are close to our beliefs more than those who completely disagree. I suppose in the latter, it's more predictable that they will disagree
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:21
Kind of a true saying
03:21
She frustrates me
03:21
These online furry spaces are total brim
03:22
1 of my missions online is to create furry content that isn't goonslop & (hopefully) actually good, in the name of God
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:22
Well, you're not alone. That's why I tried to approach it, but I have to be mindful that nothing I say will come of it. However, I hope that anyone else who sees it learns something for themselves than to be fooled by this sort of belief
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:22
Seeing a so-called "Catholic" post goonslop feels like a slap in the face
03:23
You post furry gems in the name of God. It's good. Then some retardess posts furry coal & says God's cool with it because "muh traditional art", is total brimstone (edited)
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:25
It's too bad. She will accumulate an audience that approves of it, and will most likely take that approval more seriously than anything God may offer for her. However, I hope that the passage of time gives her enough to reform for the better. Best I dust my feet off and move on
Zoraxe
An artist I was following was begged by viewers to draw smut, so they did (the 18+ marking in their name was originally only for bloodiness because they drew war stuff). They claim to be to Catholic in their bio. I'm moreso trying to wrap my head around their justification
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:26
Ridiculous lmao
Zoraxe
It's too bad. She will accumulate an audience that approves of it, and will most likely take that approval more seriously than anything God may offer for her. However, I hope that the passage of time gives her enough to reform for the better. Best I dust my feet off and move on
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:27
I did a little bit of digging
03:27
Her husband doesn't seem to be Christian
03:28
Posts what can be interpreted as blasphemies on Xitter
Randnew
"Traditional art was nude." So? Well "traditional" art was bad then
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:28
Ehh, I wouldn't say I'm against all nude art, but we simply don't have the same culture or disposition anymore
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:28
Well, this is getting more fake from her side lol
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:28
we're very hypersexualised unfortunately
03:28
meaning that we struggle to look at such things
Мико⚜🐾
Ehh, I wouldn't say I'm against all nude art, but we simply don't have the same culture or disposition anymore
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:29
This is my take
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:29
without lust being more easily invoked
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:29
Yeah lust is more easily invoked than it used to be
03:29
A father can no longer tell his son he loves him in public without a low-IQ retard thinking "DASS GAAYY" (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:29
so to say that nude art is OK purely because they used to do it, when people are just generally more physically more weak in regards to resisting the passions today, it's not really an argument (edited)
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:30
Even back then, a lot of nude art was gross
Zoraxe
Pray that she repents. Quite contradictory that she claims to be Catholic and then tries justifying this on top saying she'll draw it again next week
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:31
She knows fully well that people are going to and have masturbated to her art
03:31
And it wouldn't seem as if she is doing hyper-realism
Zoraxe
Well, this is getting more fake from her side lol
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:31
Now I'm really starting to see why the church disencourages marriage outside your denomination, let alone your religion
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Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:31
or flipping anatomy sculptures
Randnew
Now I'm really starting to see why the church disencourages marriage outside your denomination, let alone your religion
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:32
It already is obvious
03:32
But after looking at her Xitter
03:32
It's just 500% more obvious
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:33
Romans 16:17-20
BibleBot BOT 06/06/2025 03:33
Romans 16:17-20 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Final Instructions
<17> I appeal to you, brethren, to take note of those who create dissensions and difficulties, in opposition to the doctrine which you have been taught; avoid them. <18> For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by fair and flattering words they deceive the hearts of the simple-minded. <19> For while your obedience is known to all, so that I rejoice over you, I would have you wise as to what is good and guileless as to what is evil; <20> then the God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:33
In a way I actually needed to see that to remind myself that because I've been liking girl(s) outside the faith
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Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:33
Actually just read this about an hour ago
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:33
Those girls can really lead you astray haha
03:33
The prettier the more dangerous
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:34
So true
03:34
Girls are dumv
03:34
I need to quit obsessing over girls
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:34
Not dating a girl who isn't Cath or Orthodox I'm going to be so honest
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:34
Lock in on my hobbies more
Randnew
I need to quit obsessing over girls
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:34
I mean, it's natural to be interested in them, you're a guy
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:35
I willing to cut slack and follow since a lot of the art was okay for a bit. Then it rang my alarm bells last week when the rabbit mentioned wanting to have sex. And then she actually drew it‍♂️
Мико⚜🐾
Not dating a girl who isn't Cath or Orthodox I'm going to be so honest
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:35
Dating outside the church is a death sentence
Zoraxe
I willing to cut slack and follow since a lot of the art was okay for a bit. Then it rang my alarm bells last week when the rabbit mentioned wanting to have sex. And then she actually drew it‍♂️
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:35
thats not nude art then
03:35
that's just porn
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:35
& her husband isn't even Christian
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:36
Then I wouldn't take that Vatican flag to hold much weight
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:37
Seriously proving the stereotype rn
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Randnew 06/06/2025 03:37
Anything I learned today is marrying outside the faith (or more broadly, closely associating with those outside the faith) is no good
Zoraxe
Seriously proving the stereotype rn
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:38
Women are into some depraved stuff bro
03:38
I saw a statistic, I don't even want to mention it in chat
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:38
Michaelangelo did a statue of David once ergo I can draw furry porn
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:39
STUPIDEST argument
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:39
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Randnew
Anything I learned today is marrying outside the faith (or more broadly, closely associating with those outside the faith) is no good
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:40
I still am somewhat soft on that, but that comes from associating outside of religion for many years. My primary concern now is avoiding sex until marriage. If they somehow cannot put that down, what's to say they won't do the same thing with another guy? It could even be for something so simple as "being bored"
Мико⚜🐾
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Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:40
Fancy, I wonder who made that
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Zoraxe
I still am somewhat soft on that, but that comes from associating outside of religion for many years. My primary concern now is avoiding sex until marriage. If they somehow cannot put that down, what's to say they won't do the same thing with another guy? It could even be for something so simple as "being bored"
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:41
And anyone I do find, I will try to convert if they aren't Christian already
Zoraxe
I still am somewhat soft on that, but that comes from associating outside of religion for many years. My primary concern now is avoiding sex until marriage. If they somehow cannot put that down, what's to say they won't do the same thing with another guy? It could even be for something so simple as "being bored"
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:41
I have no Christian friends in real life but to be fair I don't really have any in real life anyways
03:42
& I live in a very secular area
Randnew
I saw a statistic, I don't even want to mention it in chat
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:42
I've seen several hahaha, not as innocent as they seem
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:42
It's very cooked
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:47
My mother was Catholic, but was Uhh not so great an example to put lightly. She put me through confirmation, and I immediately walked away after and went apostate. I tried to follow my father's and brother's secular ways, but it never sat right with me. For relationships in particular, I saw my father fail spectacularly with my mother and even moreso with two girls after. All the while, he tried to convince me of relationship vices that seemed completely unfounded as he got abused by these women in front of my eyes. For awhile, I didn't have much hope in that regard, but I had renewed vigor 2 years ago in going for a family
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03:48
And part of that further convinced me to renew my walk with Christ to know better in finding a proper spouse
Randnew
I have no Christian friends in real life but to be fair I don't really have any in real life anyways
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:48
I didn't have Christian friends for a long time, now all of my friends except my bestie from college are very religious
03:48
So I'm lucky in that regard
Zoraxe
My mother was Catholic, but was Uhh not so great an example to put lightly. She put me through confirmation, and I immediately walked away after and went apostate. I tried to follow my father's and brother's secular ways, but it never sat right with me. For relationships in particular, I saw my father fail spectacularly with my mother and even moreso with two girls after. All the while, he tried to convince me of relationship vices that seemed completely unfounded as he got abused by these women in front of my eyes. For awhile, I didn't have much hope in that regard, but I had renewed vigor 2 years ago in going for a family
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:49
Your catholic mother abused your father?
Мико⚜🐾
I didn't have Christian friends for a long time, now all of my friends except my bestie from college are very religious
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:49
I worry that I never will, which is entirely possible
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:50
have you joined any e-communities more local to you?
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:50
I always told myself: "I have no friends, but maybe soon I will meet someone!" Problem is I've been saying this to myself for 5 years & it's starting to get old
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:51
i met all of my Christian friends I have now in a server that has a lot more people than average from London
Мико⚜🐾
have you joined any e-communities more local to you?
Randnew 06/06/2025 03:51
pff no
03:51
I wanna keep anything personal away from my online account
03:52
I still have real life people added on trooncord & Xitter
Randnew
Your catholic mother abused your father?
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:53
She had mental problems that led her to do some very physically abusive actions. My father also tells she might've been cheating on the side, but I don't have concrete proof of that. She was also very financially irresponsible. The last year they lived together, he told me she spent on average $380 a day for an entire year. My father was not perfect tho. He was very stubborn or would go scorched earth in verbal arguments. In my father's defense, he was very emotionally broken by all of this in this time period. So as you can imagine, you can see it was hard to take the moral lessons she was enforcing seriously when all this stuff was going on. (edited)
Randnew
I always told myself: "I have no friends, but maybe soon I will meet someone!" Problem is I've been saying this to myself for 5 years & it's starting to get old
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:55
Honestly, try to do it while you're at school. It's the best time to (edited)
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Randnew
I wanna keep anything personal away from my online account
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:55
You could have 2 separate accounts Me, I just have one because I don't really care if people find out I like furries. My friends know, it doesn't really bother them, we crack jokes about it often. And that's probably the weirdest thing about me (edited)
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:55
It's still do-able outside of school, but it can be a lot harder. A lot of shooting in the dark
Zoraxe
She had mental problems that led her to do some very physically abusive actions. My father also tells she might've been cheating on the side, but I don't have concrete proof of that. She was also very financially irresponsible. The last year they lived together, he told me she spent on average $380 a day for an entire year. My father was not perfect tho. He was very stubborn or would go scorched earth in verbal arguments. In my father's defense, he was very emotionally broken by all of this in this time period. So as you can imagine, you can see it was hard to take the moral lessons she was enforcing seriously when all this stuff was going on. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 03:55
That sounds awful, Lord have mercy
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 03:57
I have good relations with both my mother and father now. My mother is happy that I'm attending church again as well. She wants me to volunteer, but I'm just unsure if I'm ready to allocate that time currently, tho I look forward being free enough to do so in the future
04:02
My father is still absolved with certain vices today, but he's a good intellectual to have discussion with. I'm less afraid to criticize him for some of his recommendations or choices, but I still appreciate to hear his thoughts to help refine my own beliefs and world view
Zoraxe
She had mental problems that led her to do some very physically abusive actions. My father also tells she might've been cheating on the side, but I don't have concrete proof of that. She was also very financially irresponsible. The last year they lived together, he told me she spent on average $380 a day for an entire year. My father was not perfect tho. He was very stubborn or would go scorched earth in verbal arguments. In my father's defense, he was very emotionally broken by all of this in this time period. So as you can imagine, you can see it was hard to take the moral lessons she was enforcing seriously when all this stuff was going on. (edited)
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:06
That's terrible. I'm hurt to hear that
Zoraxe
Honestly, try to do it while you're at school. It's the best time to (edited)
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:07
I don't know how to
04:07
Public speaking class left a bad impression on me too
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:07
That is always hardest part: starting
Randnew
Public speaking class left a bad impression on me too
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:08
I managed to make the class not like being near me just by how awkward I am
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:09
Don't let it get you down tho. It happens. Sometimes, even having small talk at the beginning or end of class helps some people realize you're just another human
Zoraxe
That is always hardest part: starting
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:09
My plan is to get a job, get money, invest it in consuming media so that I widen my cultural literacy & have more interests, then use that to make more friends
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:10
And you don't have to do that in the public speaking class either. Try it for your other classes. Even if it's as simple as asking how the homework went and sharing your struggles with it, it helps bridge that gap
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:10
Hm...
04:10
Last month I taught myself to say hi to the person sitting next to me in calc
Мико⚜🐾
You could have 2 separate accounts Me, I just have one because I don't really care if people find out I like furries. My friends know, it doesn't really bother them, we crack jokes about it often. And that's probably the weirdest thing about me (edited)
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:11
Thing about me is I think my entire online profile is cringe
04:11
Like I'm ultimate cringe kid
04:11
o algo
04:11
Reason why I'm so reluctant to post my Averis on Xitter
04:11
Because I think it's perceived as cringe
Randnew
My plan is to get a job, get money, invest it in consuming media so that I widen my cultural literacy & have more interests, then use that to make more friends
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:11
Remember, you can't buy friends. Even if you have all these accolades, you still have to know how to talk and shoot the bull with people. Heck, I'd argue it's necessary to even getting those achievements in the first place. As much as we'd to think we can do it all on our own, there might some connections here and there that get you to the finish line
Zoraxe
Remember, you can't buy friends. Even if you have all these accolades, you still have to know how to talk and shoot the bull with people. Heck, I'd argue it's necessary to even getting those achievements in the first place. As much as we'd to think we can do it all on our own, there might some connections here and there that get you to the finish line
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:13
I'm not talking about buying friends per se. I was referring moreso to increasing my cultural literacy so I'm less likely to run out of things to talk about with people
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:14
And while I don't know what you look like in person, do your best to stand up straight and appear confident. Having your shoulders slumped forward isn't only bad for your posture, but the body language it gives off may make people infer worse of you than you really are. Body language goes a long way
Randnew
I'm not talking about buying friends per se. I was referring moreso to increasing my cultural literacy so I'm less likely to run out of things to talk about with people
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:15
That's not a bad idea. I don't watch movies all too often, but I feel the need to so there is more potential discussion to have.
04:15
I'm looking too much at political happenings, and I know that's not something you can easily talk about with everyone lol
Zoraxe
That's not a bad idea. I don't watch movies all too often, but I feel the need to so there is more potential discussion to have.
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:16
Yeah you see what I mean
Zoraxe
I'm looking too much at political happenings, and I know that's not something you can easily talk about with everyone lol
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:16
Same
04:16
I stopped talking about political happenings with people, but now I just don't know what to talk about anymore
04:17
Which is a sign that I should probably consume actual media instead of Xitter feed
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:17
It can be hard to discuss with normies
04:17
Can't just be talking about some new thing you learned in Python or metaphysical philosophy
Zoraxe
Can't just be talking about some new thing you learned in Python or metaphysical philosophy
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:18
Exactly
04:18
& those are the only things I know how to talk about
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:18
Sometimes I talk about the bureaucratic drama at work
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:18
It sucks being a sperg
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:19
Any clubs at school that interest you?
Zoraxe
Any clubs at school that interest you?
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:20
No
04:20
There's a gaming club but I haven't played many new games this year so far
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:20
Is there a robotics club there by chance? Seems inline with your major
04:21
I did Robotics in high school, and it made me realize my knack for tinkering and mechanical stuff
Zoraxe
Is there a robotics club there by chance? Seems inline with your major
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:22
I don't think so when I looked
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:22
Dang
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:23
A lot of it is my fault for having such narrow interests
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:23
Next closest is Society of Automobile Engineers. That kinda depends tho
04:23
Gaming club can be weird because it can be an echo chamber of spineless nerds
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:23
I think my best chance to make friends is in my church
Zoraxe
Gaming club can be weird because it can be an echo chamber of spineless nerds
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:23
Sounds like my thing
Randnew
I think my best chance to make friends is in my church
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:24
Only problem is it's all old people & brown people
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:24
Just be careful to not entirely become "one of them" and keep to both morals and general manners
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:24
What's wrong with gamers? (edited)
Randnew
Only problem is it's all old people & brown people
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:24
That is usually the trouble I hear people have with church associations
Arcane BOT 06/06/2025 04:24
@Randnew has reached level 11. GG!
Zoraxe
That is usually the trouble I hear people have with church associations
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:25
Maybe if I find a fraternity or something like that
04:26
But there's none here from what I know
04:26
like I said earlier
04:26
I live in an atheistic garbage dump
Zoraxe
That is usually the trouble I hear people have with church associations
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:27
This & having autism
Randnew
What's wrong with gamers? (edited)
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:27
There's a tendency for them to be shut-ins, asocial, and if they do talk, they might just uncritically support the current thing™. Not always true, but it's a common stereotype. I would say give the club a try just to see what kinds of people are there. Don't have to be friends wirh everyone, but finding ome dude to associate wirh is better than none
04:29
Even if you don't find anyone, welcome to the common situation of entering a new group and not finding anything of value. Happens frequently, but you can't let that get you down from trying to look further if you're not satisfied
Zoraxe
There's a tendency for them to be shut-ins, asocial, and if they do talk, they might just uncritically support the current thing™. Not always true, but it's a common stereotype. I would say give the club a try just to see what kinds of people are there. Don't have to be friends wirh everyone, but finding ome dude to associate wirh is better than none
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:32
Never heard that stereotype before. Am I living under a rock?
04:32
Dude I'm making a game & don't know anything about gamers
04:32
lolz
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:34
I dealt with a few people like this in Highschool. Granted, it was moreso they couldn't contain themselves with good manners all the time. Like, they would often get too excited and scream during a game, maybe throw something at worst. The worst I've seen was going to a game shop to play the Pokémon TCG. I tried once to go play casual matches, and those people freaked me out lol. It also smelled like weed the whole time in the shop, so very uncomfortable experience
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Randnew 06/06/2025 04:35
lol
04:35
Maybe I wanna stay away from gamers
Randnew
Dude I'm making a game & don't know anything about gamers
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:38
I encourage you to share that game (online) with people as much as you can. Ask questions about what to do with if possible. Of course, do not get too consumed with using social media more as a result of trying to share it. Try to stay focused in that regard (this might be the reason why some people have social media managers). The whole point is to try building a community if you think you're capable of doing that. Of course, gatekeep bad people out, but that's something to think about. Don't let the game just be some hidden obscure project that you have that you only discuss with select people. (edited)
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04:39
As a result, you might find some other developer friends attempting other things and be able to learn from them or just share and be inspired from each other (edited)
Zoraxe
I encourage you to share that game (online) with people as much as you can. Ask questions about what to do with if possible. Of course, do not get too consumed with using social media more as a result of trying to share it. Try to stay focused in that regard (this might be the reason why some people have social media managers). The whole point is to try building a community if you think you're capable of doing that. Of course, gatekeep bad people out, but that's something to think about. Don't let the game just be some hidden obscure project that you have that you only discuss with select people. (edited)
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:39
I'm gonna share a demo hopefully by the end of summer
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:40
Perfect
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:40
Probably won't get done by the end of summer
04:40
But that's what I'm hoping for
04:40
Should be before 2026
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:40
The social media side is easier said than done. Even I fail at that a lot in that regard lol
Randnew
Reason why I'm so reluctant to post my Averis on Xitter
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 04:45
Some people will think its cringe, sure, but you can't please everyone
Zoraxe
The social media side is easier said than done. Even I fail at that a lot in that regard lol
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:48
I don't want to focus on a social media campaign aside from my dev updates. I like to spend more time making the actual game
Zoraxe 06/06/2025 04:53
I bring it up because some people mention how the game is a mystery basically until it comes out followed by no interaction. But also, it can help glean more feedback down the road and get a community going. But I know what you mean. Development comes first, and that can be worried about later
Zoraxe
I bring it up because some people mention how the game is a mystery basically until it comes out followed by no interaction. But also, it can help glean more feedback down the road and get a community going. But I know what you mean. Development comes first, and that can be worried about later
Randnew 06/06/2025 04:57
Yeah. It's already so much doing the game alone
04:57
Adding maps, Adding tables, Adding actor sprites, Adding tilesets, Fixing bugs, Adding a tutorial, Fixing several bugs, Testing it
VikingTiger6 06/06/2025 05:28
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/D-q-oPPmaQs
R3alism
Guys #christian #jesusisking #jesussaves
Мико⚜🐾
we alr went over this the other week, the average spaniard is like 10% african at best. barely any genetic admixture. even the graph you posted shows that (edited)
IRA's #1 funder 06/06/2025 11:48
Horrible
Randnew
Dude I'm making a game & don't know anything about gamers
IRA's #1 funder 06/06/2025 11:49
To understand gamers you must game
11:50
Amen
IRA's #1 funder
Horrible
serpente482 06/06/2025 12:52
turned inside out negro
12:52
theres a reason gingers are always race swapped just sayin
serpente482
theres a reason gingers are always race swapped just sayin
IRA's #1 funder 06/06/2025 14:52
Celt erasure
IRA's #1 funder
Celt erasure
serpente482 06/06/2025 14:58
that happened a long time ago, thas why you dont speak irish anymore
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/06/2025 16:13
My original understanding of ghosts was based on the Biblical idea that there is no such thing as purgatory and that all "ghosts" are simply demons pretending to be ghosts but after last night, I really do not believe that anymore. I think there could very well be remnants of real people and that this idea of "ghosts" is true. While interacting with one spirit, I explicitly asks a number of questions relating the crucifix I wear, asking if the iconography bothers them, if Jesus' name bothers them and, at one point, explicitly calling on Jesus' name. And yet the spirit, whom I believe to have been a simple woman who lived in that area, was not at all phased by that. I concluded with a prayer for her spirit and there was a sense of calm and warmth, as if she was grateful for me praying for her.
16:14
Perhaps it helps that prior to the night I paid my respects at the local cemetery. Maybe that had something to do with it.
16:14
I still fully believe there are demons who pretend to be simple ghosts. But I also now believe there to be, shall we say, remnants of people who have passed on.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
My original understanding of ghosts was based on the Biblical idea that there is no such thing as purgatory and that all "ghosts" are simply demons pretending to be ghosts but after last night, I really do not believe that anymore. I think there could very well be remnants of real people and that this idea of "ghosts" is true. While interacting with one spirit, I explicitly asks a number of questions relating the crucifix I wear, asking if the iconography bothers them, if Jesus' name bothers them and, at one point, explicitly calling on Jesus' name. And yet the spirit, whom I believe to have been a simple woman who lived in that area, was not at all phased by that. I concluded with a prayer for her spirit and there was a sense of calm and warmth, as if she was grateful for me praying for her.
serpente482 06/06/2025 16:52
"The biblical idea that there is no such thing as purgatory"
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16:53
1
serpente482
"The biblical idea that there is no such thing as purgatory"
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/06/2025 16:56
Our souls go to be judged when we die, no?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Our souls go to be judged when we die, no?
serpente482 06/06/2025 17:01
to the purgatory
17:01
the place to purge all of our sins
17:01
to enter heaven
17:01
because heaven wouldnt be perfect if imperfect stuff was in it
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serpente482
because heaven wouldnt be perfect if imperfect stuff was in it
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/06/2025 17:03
Then what do you suppose ghosts are?
17:03
Are they demons pretending to be deceased people?
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Then what do you suppose ghosts are?
serpente482 06/06/2025 17:04
the only ghost i care about is the Holy Ghost
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serpente482
the only ghost i care about is the Holy Ghost
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/06/2025 17:11
You kinda cooked with this one ngl
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Are they demons pretending to be deceased people?
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 17:13
Yes, although God, at times, allows the saints and those in Heaven or in purgation to genuinely appear to people (edited)
17:13
For whatever reason
17:13
they have many a time before
Мико⚜🐾
Yes, although God, at times, allows the saints and those in Heaven or in purgation to genuinely appear to people (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/06/2025 17:16
Here's what I'm not getting. Demons recall at Jesus name. It's basically a cheatcode at dealing with demons. I was very thorough in making sure I was pressing all the right buttons and saying the right things to ensure that if it was a demon, that it would reveal itself to be one. After last night I'm no longer so sure that all "spirits" are just demons. It's reactions to my interrogations were too placid.
17:18
And I got the sense it was grateful for me showing my respects in the cemetery. Like, I dunno man, I feel there's far more going on here than just all "spirits" simply being demons.
serpente482
because heaven wouldnt be perfect if imperfect stuff was in it
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 17:18
Indeed, if you die in mortal sin in Orthodox Christianity, you undergo purgation in Hades for a time. Most Christians for most of history did not believe in this instant transfiguration to either Hell or Heaven. (edited)
17:20
The only difference between us and the Catholics on this would be that while it is more common for the Catholic to believe that the purgatorial fire purifies the man or woman who is sent there in and of itself, we more commonly believe that people who go there are not purified by the fires solely but also are justified by the beckoning of the faithful for all deceased Christians: which happens at every service (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Here's what I'm not getting. Demons recall at Jesus name. It's basically a cheatcode at dealing with demons. I was very thorough in making sure I was pressing all the right buttons and saying the right things to ensure that if it was a demon, that it would reveal itself to be one. After last night I'm no longer so sure that all "spirits" are just demons. It's reactions to my interrogations were too placid.
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 17:22
Well, not necessarily. One must understand that any interaction with a demon is permitted for one reason or another, and it is not always the case that it goes as swiftly as that
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Here's what I'm not getting. Demons recall at Jesus name. It's basically a cheatcode at dealing with demons. I was very thorough in making sure I was pressing all the right buttons and saying the right things to ensure that if it was a demon, that it would reveal itself to be one. After last night I'm no longer so sure that all "spirits" are just demons. It's reactions to my interrogations were too placid.
serpente482 06/06/2025 17:22
what did you see exactly
Мико⚜🐾 06/06/2025 17:22
There are many stories in which the saints are harassed and bullied by the demons
17:22
Physically and spiritually assaulted by them, for a time (edited)
serpente482
what did you see exactly
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/06/2025 17:29
I'll give you the full unfiltered. We first went to the cemetery. While there I was praying silently while also making notes of the names of the graves and giving them my due respects, in the hopes they are with our Lord Jesus whom is most pleased with them. Back in the house me and three others used a device to ask a bunch of questions to a spirit. The answers were pretty much instant and they were direct responses too, not like what you see in a lot of ghost hunting videos where they get a bunch of very vague answers and somehow thread a narrative together. What we got was it was a woman, who lived in the area, had 13 children, died of childbirth and that she took a liking to the other guy in our group, which we deduced through questioning was because he reminded her of someone (whoever that someone may be). During which I asked the following questions: "Are you a demon?" - No "What would you do if I called on Jesus name now?" - I don't know "Does my crucifix, which depicts the Lord Jesus, bother you?" - No "Does me using the name of the Lord Jesus bother you?" - No "Does Christianity bother you?" - No "Does my faith bother you?" - No "Did you know I was praying in the cemetery for the deceased?" - No "How do you feel about my prayer?" - "Happy" "Would you like me to pray for your spirit?" - Maybe "Are you happy with my prayer, too?" - Yes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I'll give you the full unfiltered. We first went to the cemetery. While there I was praying silently while also making notes of the names of the graves and giving them my due respects, in the hopes they are with our Lord Jesus whom is most pleased with them. Back in the house me and three others used a device to ask a bunch of questions to a spirit. The answers were pretty much instant and they were direct responses too, not like what you see in a lot of ghost hunting videos where they get a bunch of very vague answers and somehow thread a narrative together. What we got was it was a woman, who lived in the area, had 13 children, died of childbirth and that she took a liking to the other guy in our group, which we deduced through questioning was because he reminded her of someone (whoever that someone may be). During which I asked the following questions: "Are you a demon?" - No "What would you do if I called on Jesus name now?" - I don't know "Does my crucifix, which depicts the Lord Jesus, bother you?" - No "Does me using the name of the Lord Jesus bother you?" - No "Does Christianity bother you?" - No "Does my faith bother you?" - No "Did you know I was praying in the cemetery for the deceased?" - No "How do you feel about my prayer?" - "Happy" "Would you like me to pray for your spirit?" - Maybe "Are you happy with my prayer, too?" - Yes
serpente482 06/06/2025 17:33
how did she answer
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/06/2025 17:35
Through a device which has a specific set of words that it calls out.
ungen 06/06/2025 17:35
Was it an Ouija board or something else?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/06/2025 17:36
Also that room was freezing cold. As in, you could see your breath cold where as the rest of the house was relatively warm.
ungen
Was it an Ouija board or something else?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/06/2025 17:36
No, it's like an electronic device.
17:36
I wouldn't fuck with an Ouija board.
17:36
Or pentagrams or none of that pagan shite.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
No, it's like an electronic device.
Extra-sensory PURRception 06/06/2025 17:38
Was it your device? Because if it wasn't then it could just have been someone answering the questions or something (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/06/2025 17:38
I think it's called like a PS Device
17:39
You seem 'em in ghost hunting videos all the time but a lot of the time it spits out random words which don't make a whole lot of sense.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I think it's called like a PS Device
Extra-sensory PURRception 06/06/2025 17:40
But whose was it?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/06/2025 17:40
The guy's device.
17:40
No disrespect to him but he had a few screws loose. I high doubt he was able to tamper with it.
17:45
I kind of equate this experience to the experience of faith, you know? Even if you were able to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, every single little thing about the Bible, people still wouldn't become Christians. Because becoming a Christian is usually based on experience and feeling. This was the same thing. The experience was... something I've never experienced before. It was weird.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I kind of equate this experience to the experience of faith, you know? Even if you were able to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, every single little thing about the Bible, people still wouldn't become Christians. Because becoming a Christian is usually based on experience and feeling. This was the same thing. The experience was... something I've never experienced before. It was weird.
Extra-sensory PURRception 06/06/2025 17:47
Yeah, I get what you mean
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/06/2025 17:49
Because I did go into this with full skepticism. I can disregard a large chunk of the night to a lot of things which were easily explained. But that room was really fucking weird, man. The fact the room was ice cold compared to the rest of the house was one thing, but the feeling inside that room was extremely off-putting.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
My original understanding of ghosts was based on the Biblical idea that there is no such thing as purgatory and that all "ghosts" are simply demons pretending to be ghosts but after last night, I really do not believe that anymore. I think there could very well be remnants of real people and that this idea of "ghosts" is true. While interacting with one spirit, I explicitly asks a number of questions relating the crucifix I wear, asking if the iconography bothers them, if Jesus' name bothers them and, at one point, explicitly calling on Jesus' name. And yet the spirit, whom I believe to have been a simple woman who lived in that area, was not at all phased by that. I concluded with a prayer for her spirit and there was a sense of calm and warmth, as if she was grateful for me praying for her.
VikingTiger6 06/07/2025 03:51
dont talk to spirits
03:51
that shits evil
03:51
youre phoning the devil
03:51
a demon picks up claiming to be a spirit
03:52
him and all his friends are chuckling while they tell you whatever you wanna hear
03:52
man dies and he is judged, simple as
serpente482
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Randnew 06/07/2025 19:13
I bet Aron drew this
Randnew
I bet Aron drew this
serpente482 06/07/2025 19:49
Yeah
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19:49
Its his fursona o algo
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/07/2025 20:39
20:39
Did he cook?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
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VikingTiger6 06/07/2025 20:43
thats the way i see it
20:43
if it was possible to lose your salvation, therd be no hope for anyone
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Did he cook?
serpente482 06/07/2025 21:05
No
21:05
You lose your faith you lose salvation
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
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Мико⚜🐾 06/07/2025 21:12
No
Zoraxe 06/07/2025 21:28
Salvation is a gift that's always available. The problem is that many people choose not to accept that, or they forfeit it if they fall unrepentantly back into sin
21:31
At least, that's how I see it. Predestination is, again, hard to wrap our heads around from a human perspective
Мико⚜🐾
No
Мико⚜🐾 06/07/2025 23:31
Hebrews 6 and Romans 11 are clear, and their interpretations from the fathers are unified (edited)
VikingTiger6
if it was possible to lose your salvation, therd be no hope for anyone
Мико⚜🐾 06/07/2025 23:32
If you think that people cannot forsake their salvation, then that implies that people who fall away were never in reality saved
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23:32
And since you could fall away, such a belief actually leads to absolute uncertainty, absolute lack of hope for one's salvation. As opposed to those who believe that they have it right now, and hope to continue to have it until death (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
And since you could fall away, such a belief actually leads to absolute uncertainty, absolute lack of hope for one's salvation. As opposed to those who believe that they have it right now, and hope to continue to have it until death (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 06/07/2025 23:33
Given that, if this were to happen, you in reality never received any grace, never received any mysteries or experience of God, and were merely in spiritual and mental delusion. Unless you want to also suggest in response that God gives such things to those who are not Christians. (edited)
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/08/2025 13:45
@Мико⚜🐾 @serpente482 best and/or fav version of the Bible?
serpente482 06/08/2025 13:46
The spanish catholic one
13:46
Idk
Мико⚜🐾 06/08/2025 13:46
Douay Rheims w/ Leo Haydock's commentary and Brenton's English Septuagint.
serpente482 06/08/2025 13:46
I dont like the kjv
13:47
13:48
Too old sounding for my esl brain
Мико⚜🐾 06/08/2025 13:48
The KJV is cool, but I prefer the Douay Rheims
13:49
its translated from the Latin Vulgate, which Saint Jerome compiled and the Catholics preserved, more trustworthy in my eyes (edited)
serpente482
Too old sounding for my esl brain
Мико⚜🐾 06/08/2025 13:50
on top of that the older English words used have changed meaning too
13:50
so thee thou thy etc. dont have the same usage case even when rarely used today as they did in 1611
13:50
making it easy to misunderstand the text if youre not aware of this
Мико⚜🐾 06/08/2025 13:59
@Fantastic Mr. Fob I remember you saying that when you move to Russia, you would look into Orthodoxy. I pray your time inquiring is fruitful, as you may or may not be aware I'm a convert to the Russian Orthodox Church and am under Moscow.
13:59
Was received via chrism on February
Fantastic Mr. Fob 06/08/2025 14:00
Thank you
14:01
I take it you're not actually in Russia
14:01
Mikko with two K's is not Russian spelling
14:01
Latins do the double-consonant (edited)
Fantastic Mr. Fob
I take it you're not actually in Russia
Мико⚜🐾 06/08/2025 14:06
yeah, Im not haha
Fantastic Mr. Fob
Mikko with two K's is not Russian spelling
Мико⚜🐾 06/08/2025 14:06
Yeah, it should be just with one
14:06
Brap taught me months ago
Fantastic Mr. Fob 06/08/2025 14:09
My name is Фокс Форджер
14:09
I had to figure it out to get my visa
14:09
They don't have a j sound
14:10
Or a w
14:11
There's no x as in Fox so you replace it with a ks "Foks"
14:11
And the closes my last name can get is "Fordzher"
14:11
Which we don't really have a letter for Ж
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14:12
But it sounds like the beginning sound in "genre"
14:13
There's a very small Orthodox population here. I should visit the Russian Orthodox church in town sometime
Fantastic Mr. Fob
There's a very small Orthodox population here. I should visit the Russian Orthodox church in town sometime
Мико⚜🐾 06/08/2025 14:18
It will give you a taste of what to expect, even more so if it's a patriarchal parish instead of a ROCOR one
Fantastic Mr. Fob 06/08/2025 14:31
No idea
14:31
I'll try to visit next Sunday
14:31
Or maybe they have other service events. Orthodoxies seem to have more
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/08/2025 14:52
I'm gonna draw a Xeno character accepting Christ and I wanna include a Bible. What version should I include? @Мико⚜🐾 @Fantastic Mr. Fob @serpente482
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I'm gonna draw a Xeno character accepting Christ and I wanna include a Bible. What version should I include? @Мико⚜🐾 @Fantastic Mr. Fob @serpente482
Fantastic Mr. Fob 06/08/2025 14:54
2
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/08/2025 14:56
'kay
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/08/2025 15:37
Hang on
15:37
It would make more sense for her to have the Welsh Bible translation
15:37
I'll do the English-Russian for another one
Fantastic Mr. Fob 06/08/2025 15:42
Wales isn't a real place
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Fantastic Mr. Fob
Wales isn't a real place
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/08/2025 15:48
Don't do a Eurocyon or we're gonna have a bad time
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
It would make more sense for her to have the Welsh Bible translation
Мико⚜🐾 06/08/2025 16:20
is this your favourite lass from xenoblade 2
16:20
by any chance
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/08/2025 16:20
Yes
16:20
As a Welshman I am reclaiming her.
16:21
The troons can't have her.
16:24
@Мико⚜🐾 I fucking see you reacting, you bastard!
Мико⚜🐾 06/08/2025 16:24
hehehe
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/08/2025 16:24
This is why we can never get along with the Engl*sh
16:25
I got my Irish friends on speed dial. Your ass is grass.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I got my Irish friends on speed dial. Your ass is grass.
serpente482 06/08/2025 18:28
turned inside out negros
VikingTiger6 06/08/2025 21:11
We sung a song made popular by a welsh revival in church today
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I think it was this one
VikingTiger6
I think it was this one
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/08/2025 21:14
Oh, we sing this often in our church.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Oh, we sing this often in our church.
VikingTiger6 06/08/2025 21:14
i hear it was made popular in wales or maybe written there i cant remember
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my pastor said they sing it in welsh over there though
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/08/2025 21:15
In the cathedrals most likely. I go to a protestant church so not there.
21:15
I went to last Christmas' service at a large Welsh cathedral where they sung hymns in both Welsh and Latin.
VikingTiger6 06/08/2025 21:18
one of my ancestors was the first archbishop of wales
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._G._Edwards_(bishop)
A. G. Edwards (bishop)
Alfred George Edwards (2 November 1848 – 22 July 1937), known as A. G. Edwards, was elected the first archbishop of the disestablished Church in Wales. The son of a priest of the Church of England, Edwards was born in Llanymawddwy in Gwynedd. He studied at Jesus College, Oxford, before being appointed warden of Llandovery College in 1875. In t...
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hes either my great great or great great great grandfather
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/08/2025 21:20
Wales was super Pagan before Christianity was brought here.
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Pretty much our entire culture has been shaped by Christianity.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAtRQCGT5Yo
Horsell Evangelical
I am coming Lord (Gwahoddiad) - sung in Welsh with added English Ly...
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAtRQCGT5Yo
VikingTiger6 06/08/2025 21:24
reminds me of rock of ages
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I got my Irish friends on speed dial. Your ass is grass.
IRA's #1 funder 06/08/2025 22:45
Yes king
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Мико⚜🐾 06/10/2025 20:04
https://youtu.be/4qct9jJIS7A
Patristic Nectar
Diversity is Our Strength?
20:05
https://youtu.be/N7LEV_WqRw0
Orthodox Wisdom
What is an Anathema? - St. Theophan the Recluse
Randnew 06/11/2025 03:39
I did some reflecting earlier. I find it so crazy how I used to be an anti-Christian atheist
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All of the stuff they say about "religion is just superstition when I was growing up
03:40
No religion in my family whatsoever
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Never grew up with any of it
03:40
You wanna know what changed my mind?
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One day, I thought to myself
03:41
"If religion is so dumb & irrational, why do so many people believe in it?"
Arcane BOT 06/11/2025 03:41
@Randnew has reached level 13. GG!
Randnew 06/11/2025 03:42
So I started learning about Christian counterarguments to atheism/agnosticism
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& what I learned completely shattered my worldview
03:42
Religion is not superstition. In fact superstition is a mortal sin
03:43
Galileo was not burnt at the stake for doing science
03:43
Christianity is not blind faith. The gospels actually have authenticity
03:43
The church doesn't hate LGBTQ people. It actually loves them
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Y'know
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All these talking points made in secular media/academia
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& at the end of the day, I just felt so lied to
03:44
Like every notion I had of Christianity as an atheist was all fabricated
03:45
Everything I understood growing up was wrong
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& not only that
03:45
the faith showed me something far greater
03:46
That is: What if life actually has meaning?
03:46
What if I'm not jusst a cosmic accident & I actually exist for a reason
03:46
What if I was created for the sole purpose to be loved & to love others?
03:47
The Christian reality is extraordinarily beautiful
03:48
You're not a cosmic accident. You're more than a monkey on a spinning ball floating in star dust
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The sole reason that you exist is so that you can be loved by God
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& the only reason why you don't feel that love is because you rejected it by sinning
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& you have effectively damned yourself for eternity
03:51
Because God's infinitely good, even the smallest sin offends His infinite majesty, meaning it deserves eternal never-ending punishment, because God is perfectly just
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But because God loves you, He became man & suffered the pains of all your sins after dying on the cross
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& came back to life, which is proven by real eyewitness testimony
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So that if you simply believe, you will be deemed justified & free from condemnation
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It's not like other religions where you have to kill someone in your tribe to appease the gods
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If you simply believe in Jesus, your faith will be counted for righteousness
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No matter how rotten your deeds are, you can be forgiven by God & granted eternal life
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Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi
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03:57
The Lamb has conquered death
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Death is no longer an inevitable point of despair surrounded with uncertainty & fear
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There's no more fear of dying. No more fear of whether it will be okay returning to dust
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Because death has been conquered by God who became man
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All there is now is hope
Мико⚜🐾 06/13/2025 06:41
https://x.com/blessedmikko/status/1931688042403610935?t=lCMkgRDXL5oQcT2n59Stvw&s=19
Mikko (@blessedmikko)
..And if we have in any way sinned against You, be merciful to them and to us; for no man is free of stain in Your sight though he live but a day; only You, Who sinless came to Earth, our Lord Jesus Christ, through Whom we all hope to find mercy and remission of sins.
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https://x.com/alooflogos/status/1930967029932019725?t=G-wMraKWLjIRds4H0huq8w&s=19
ⲣⲁⲫⲁ (@alooflogos)
"And you cried to me from afar, Yea, verily, 'I Am that I Am.' And I heard this, as one hears in the heart, nor was there room for doubt; I should more readily doubt that I live than that Truth is not" Confessions VII.X.16
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/13/2025 15:43
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15:43
I love the book of proverbs. It's just non stop gems
Sogga 06/13/2025 21:16
you're such a cornball
Мико⚜🐾 06/13/2025 21:17
bro, just shut up
21:17
every minute its just negativity, damn
Мико⚜🐾
every minute its just negativity, damn
Sogga 06/13/2025 21:18
erm... let people enjoy things?
Мико⚜🐾 06/13/2025 21:18
no
Sogga 06/13/2025 21:18
therefore i wont let sky enjoy things either
21:18
thanks for your thoughtful sentiment
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Мико⚜🐾 06/13/2025 22:02
“..Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking upon Him the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men, and being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross (Phil. 2:6–8).” “..Though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor, that you through His poverty might be rich (2 Cor. 8:9).” For this reason, He also deigned to choose as His Mother the most humble of all angels and men, the Most Blessed and Most Pure Virgin Mary. For this reason, He made the first builders of the mysteries of His kingdom poor and humble fishermen, the Apostles. Humility is so necessary for entering the kingdom of Jesus Christ that without it, so to speak, not a single step can be taken. Only the humble are capable of true faith in Christ: for, recognizing the natural poverty of the human mind and its inability to comprehend the mysteries of God, they with childlike simplicity believe the word of God without understanding it, and according to their faith, God reveals to them the mysteries of His kingdom (Matt. 11:25). Only the humble are capable of receiving all the gifts of the Holy Spirit: for, feeling their poverty, like beggars, they ask for them from the Heavenly Father and persistently knock at the doors of His mercy, and God opens to them the treasures of His love and goodness. Just as water naturally flows downward along the slope of the land, so too the life-giving water of the grace of the Holy Spirit is poured out only upon the humble, and the more a Christian humbles himself, the more abundantly and quickly he receives into his heart the treasures of the heavenly kingdom. “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven (Matt. 5:3).”
`St. Philaret Amphiteatrov, on the humility of Christ, found in his first discourse on the Gospel of Matthew`
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/14/2025 10:55
10:55
My brother in Christ... That's sloth.
Мико⚜🐾 06/14/2025 15:22
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
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VikingTiger6 06/15/2025 00:45
Some of the things I do in dreams are sinfull
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I hate it
00:45
I'm not sure if I have controll over my actions in dreams or if I'm just merely watching myself
VikingTiger6 06/16/2025 03:10
VikingTiger6 06/16/2025 05:26
mikko is it true that the eastern orthodox church curses all non eastern orthodox once a year?
Мико⚜🐾 06/16/2025 05:48
That’s a bit of an exaggeration, but yes, many heresies are anathematised in the annual Sunday of Orthodoxy service.
VikingTiger6
mikko is it true that the eastern orthodox church curses all non eastern orthodox once a year?
Мико⚜🐾 06/16/2025 05:51
Here is the list. As you can see, it curses: those who deny the necessity of the incarnation, iconoclasts, arians, those who reject the councils, those who deny Christian rulers are ordained by God, those who deny justification by faith in Christ alone, those who reject the perpetual virginity of Mary, rejection of eternal punishment, an array of common restorationist beliefs, freemasonry/occultism, devil worshippers (edited)
05:52
The only thing unique on the list here is the condemnation of ecumenism, only the ROCOR says that in their services
05:54
We also pray for these people too
Мико⚜🐾 06/16/2025 08:26
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/17/2025 11:24
https://vxtwitter.com/TheNorfolkLion/status/1934722747529060467
Queen Natalie (@TheNorfolkLion)
A Muslim man attempted to interrupt a Christian preacher sharing the gospel, but the preacher stood firm. This is still a Christian country, after all. ✝️
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11:24
The only weapon we need is the name of Jesus Christ.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/18/2025 18:07
Luke 17:2
BibleBot BOT 06/18/2025 18:07
Luke 17:2 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<2> It would be better for him if a millstone were hung round his neck and he were cast into the sea, than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/18/2025 18:08
Revelation 18:21
BibleBot BOT 06/18/2025 18:08
Revelation 18:21 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<21> Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, "So shall Babylon the great city be thrown down with violence, and shall be found no more;
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/18/2025 18:08
OH
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OH OKAY THAT'S BASED KEK
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Мико⚜🐾 06/20/2025 06:42
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GR 06/20/2025 06:44
currently watching this lol
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/20/2025 09:50
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/20/2025 14:11
https://vxtwitter.com/ShitpostRock/status/1935819566850195553
Rock solid (@ShitpostRock)
Being pro-Israel as a Christian is an oxymoron, considering that modern Jewish people have taken the name 'Israel,' when in reality, they are more closely associated with Judea than ancient Israel. This was never their land You are being sold a lie to excuse genocide https://t.co/LYb2ADT26x
QRT: MelonieMac You cannot be both antisemitic and a Christian
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14:12
Watching this made realise there has been a repeated pattern of >fall into sexual immorality >sacrifice children >"Pride" becomes normalised >Now we abort babies even up until birth
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The more I understand the Bible and modern day Israel the more I realise that if there is anyone God is going to pour the majority of his wrath on, it's going to be these same Jews who think they are God's chosen people.
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They're gonna be in for a rude awakening.
Tzarevich Fox Forger I 06/20/2025 14:26
Honestly it will be even worse if they really are Gods chosen people
Tzarevich Fox Forger I
Honestly it will be even worse if they really are Gods chosen people
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/20/2025 14:27
God's chosen people are the Christians because we recognise who the Messiah truly is and we follow Him.
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But we're not so prideful as to be like the modern day """Israelites"""
Tzarevich Fox Forger I 06/20/2025 14:28
Well there are some promises the God made to Israel forever regardless.
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But either way, God does not deal kindly with Israel when they revel and fall into immorality. Only when they honour God does he protect them.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/20/2025 14:29
The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://vxtwitter.com/ShitpostRock/status/1935819566850195553
Мико⚜🐾 06/20/2025 16:33
dispensationalism is bullshit
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://vxtwitter.com/ShitpostRock/status/1935819566850195553
Мико⚜🐾 06/20/2025 16:37
Modern day Jews only have genetic continuity with the tribes of Benjamin and Judah
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the tribes of Mannaseh and Ephraim were lost
16:37
furthermore, those who are referred to anachronistically as Jews mixed with the Edomites, the descendants of Esau, in the 1st century BC
BibleBot BOT 06/20/2025 16:38
Malachi 1:3-4 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<3> But have hated Esau? and I have made his mountains a wilderness, and given his inheritance to the dragons of the desert. <4> But if Edom shall say: We are destroyed, but we will return and build up what hath been destroyed: thus saith the Lord of hosts: They shall build up, and I will throw down: and they shall be called the borders of wickedness, and the people with whom the Lord is angry for ever.
Мико⚜🐾 06/20/2025 16:38
Malachi 1:1-4
BibleBot BOT 06/20/2025 16:38
Malachi 1:1-4 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<1> The burden of the word of the Lord to Israel by the hand of Malachias. <2> I have loved you, saith the Lord: and you have said: Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau brother to Jacob, saith the Lord, and I have loved Jacob, <3> But have hated Esau? and I have made his mountains a wilderness, and given his inheritance to the dragons of the desert. <4> But if Edom shall say: We are destroyed, but we will return and build up what hath been destroyed: thus saith the Lord of hosts: They shall build up, and I will throw down: and they shall be called the borders of wickedness, and the people with whom the Lord is angry for ever.
Мико⚜🐾 06/20/2025 16:38
This is what scripture says of Esau and his sons.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/20/2025 16:39
Doesn't God destroy the Isrealities on multiple occasions in the Old Testament? If they're God's chosen people, surely they'd get more favourable treatment. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 06/20/2025 16:39
That’s not really a good argument
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God’s people are punished and are put through trial
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Both can look like they are the same thing to onlookers (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/20/2025 16:40
True
Мико⚜🐾 06/20/2025 16:40
Christ never said it was going to be easy
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However, scripture declares several punishments to be curses from God: and it is through this you can know more certainly whether someone is being punished or not (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/20/2025 16:40
Those punishments are?
Мико⚜🐾 06/20/2025 16:41
Read Deuteronomy 28:15 onwards
Arcane BOT 06/20/2025 16:41
@Мико⚜🐾 has reached level 100. GG!
BibleBot BOT 06/20/2025 16:41
Deuteronomy 28:15 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<15> But if thou wilt not hear the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep and to do all his commandments and ceremonies, which I command thee this day, all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee.
Мико⚜🐾 06/20/2025 16:41
and you will see
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/20/2025 16:42
Already on it geeza
16:42
How do you have so much of scripture memorized
Мико⚜🐾 06/20/2025 16:43
Maybe it’s cause I’ve been Christian for a long time?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/20/2025 16:44
Interesting and quite curious.
16:44
That does check out.
Мико⚜🐾 06/20/2025 16:45
My mum would make me read the Bible as punishment
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As well
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/20/2025 16:46
Reading God's word as "punishment" is... an interesting choice
Мико⚜🐾 06/20/2025 16:46
A few times she would make me read the entire encylcopedia we had or certain sections of it and take notes, or she would have me read the longer books in the Bible
16:46
like Isaiah
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/20/2025 16:46
My Mum would wash my mouth out with soap.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Reading God's word as "punishment" is... an interesting choice
Мико⚜🐾 06/20/2025 16:46
well, it was constructive, but it meant that I wouldn’t see my computer for a few days hahaha
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/20/2025 16:47
Wish my parents never introduced the internet to our home. I suppose I would've found porn either way.
Мико⚜🐾 06/20/2025 17:16
https://x.com/penn_williamE/status/1936027738629878154
William Penn (@penn_williamE)
Catholic identity among Gen Z jumped from 15% to 21% in just one year. Is the tide turning? Or just a blip?
Мико⚜🐾
https://x.com/penn_williamE/status/1936027738629878154
serpente482 06/20/2025 17:40
Social media propaganda can go either ways
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/20/2025 17:43
Count Dankula, Joe Rogan, Sam Hyde and like a fuckton of VTubers all came out as Christians this year
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17:43
I think there is absolutely a shift
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I think there is absolutely a shift
Мико⚜🐾 06/20/2025 17:46
Carl Benjamin wants his kids to be Christian too now (edited)
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even if he doesnt end up believing lol
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He’s no longer an atheist
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/20/2025 17:47
He did say he's Agnostic
17:47
But yes, Christ is calling his children home
🜋𝕽𝖆𝖒𝖛𝖉🜋 Σ 06/20/2025 17:48
we need to pray for more convertions
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/20/2025 18:22
I just want Jesus to return already. I'm getting very tired of the world. I want to go home.
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Sogga 06/20/2025 18:26
you are home, buddy
18:26
this is your home
Мико⚜🐾 06/20/2025 18:55
https://youtu.be/eWJLQa88yks
Orthodox Wisdom
"You Have Become A Woman & Lost Your Manhood" - St. John Chrysostom...
18:57
https://youtu.be/bQ7PtAloPRU
Orthodox Wisdom
Unworthiness, Self-Reproach, & Hoping Only in the Mercy of God - St...
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/20/2025 19:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAwe_BmQuyA
Sylent Bell
My Testimony
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Tzarevich Fox Forger I 06/21/2025 05:46
Has anyone here heard of the Anchored Bible reading plan?
05:47
https://www.godspeak.com/anchored
Anchored | Godspeak
Investing yourself in the Word of God is the best thing you can do for your personal walk with the Lord. Invest with Anchored Bible readings. Your life will never be the same when you begin to read God's Word consistently.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Count Dankula, Joe Rogan, Sam Hyde and like a fuckton of VTubers all came out as Christians this year
Randnew 06/21/2025 17:12
It's like when Constantine converted
17:12
Maybe not AS amazing
17:12
But there's a huge cultural shift going on
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Wokeism is dead. Christianity is on the rise
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HUGE whitepill
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Specifically it's traditional Christianity getting more popular
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Contemporary hillsong churches are dying. Young people don't like that
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Young catholics are mostly going to traditional Latin masses
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17:13
I think the church needs to recognize this
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My catechist once told me that the church is always like 80 years behind on progressing
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I think he's definitely right
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It's gonna take 80 years for the church to realize this
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Generation Epsilon will come along & the church is going to reform the Novus Ordo to be traditional & everyone else will be like "the heck is going on"
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/21/2025 20:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3XYOxUKBV0
Loot Goblin Marketplace
Can a Smug Atheist and Devoted Cleric Ever Really Get Along?
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20:26
Somehow I feel this fits here.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/22/2025 19:52
I think I'm just non-denom
19:55
Like when I think about my faith it comes back to "I am the way, the truth and the life."
19:55
I'm not all about this extra fluff. I'm just about doing my best to move closer to Christ each day.
19:57
But I do also subscribe strongly with the idea of having a personal relationship with God. That's what keeps my faith strong.
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Мико⚜🐾 06/23/2025 19:24
https://youtu.be/vNQfUv1nnLM
Premodernist
What people get wrong about the Council of Nicaea
VikingTiger6 06/24/2025 13:13
https://vxtwitter.com/VoteHarrisOut/status/1937006206444286312
Philip Anderson (@VoteHarrisOut)
HOLY SHIT This pastor has balls of steel to call out the Zionist Jews like this. https://t.co/tvERD2LuOo
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Like when I think about my faith it comes back to "I am the way, the truth and the life."
Lancer 06/24/2025 13:17
A channel I like shares a similar view https://youtube.com/shorts/3OYe0n3OplE
InspiringPhilosophy
What is My Denomination? #christianity #church #denominations
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Very good channel btw, especially for those who like defending their fate with empirical evidence https://youtube.com/@inspiringphilosophy?si=0zKW245sddm1HYM4
InspiringPhilosophy
Livestreaming Every Monday @ 8:00pm EST
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/24/2025 19:02
Surprising kino and trve on my timeline
1
Мико⚜🐾 06/25/2025 16:18
https://youtu.be/R0JW09KK_T4
Orthodox Wisdom
The Way To Evangelize & Debate Like A Saint - St. Porphyrios
Мико⚜🐾 06/25/2025 16:44
16:44
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/25/2025 19:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve5PYBCe77Q
Wise Disciple
Iran vs. Israel: Which Chapter of Revelation Are We In?!
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/26/2025 16:28
@Мико⚜🐾 What're the key points of JW's belief system? We tend to get them every now and then over here and I feel like challenging them.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 What're the key points of JW's belief system? We tend to get them every now and then over here and I feel like challenging them.
Lancer 06/26/2025 18:33
https://youtu.be/Kox1QCcaAsc
Mike Winger
The Jehovah's Witnesses Religion Quickly Explained and Refuted
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 What're the key points of JW's belief system? We tend to get them every now and then over here and I feel like challenging them.
Мико⚜🐾 06/26/2025 18:34
Well, I don’t know too much about them, but they deny the deity of Christ
18:34
So, appealing to the Greek NT text and the Early Fathers is a start
Мико⚜🐾
So, appealing to the Greek NT text and the Early Fathers is a start
Мико⚜🐾 06/26/2025 18:35
They have their own translation of the Bible but the Hebrew and the Greek interlinear available on their own website shows where they corrupt the text
18:36
Colossians 2:8-10 (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Colossians 2:8-10 (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 06/26/2025 18:38
Βλέπετε μή τις ὑμᾶς ἔσται ὁ συλαγωγῶν διὰ τῆς φιλοσοφίας καὶ κενῆς ἀπάτης, κατὰ τὴν παράδοσιν τῶν ἀνθρώπων, κατὰ τὰ στοιχεῖα τοῦ κόσμου, καὶ οὐ κατὰ Χριστόν; ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ κατοικεῖ πᾶν τὸ πλήρωμα τῆς θεότητος σωματικῶς, καὶ ἐστὲ ἐν αὐτῷ πεπληρωμένοι, ὅς ἐστιν ἡ κεφαλὴ πάσης ἀρχῆς καὶ ἐξουσίας.
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ὅτι – because, for, that
(conjunction, introducing a reason or explanation)
ἐν – in, within
(preposition, takes the dative case)
αὐτῷ – him, he, in him
(dative singular of αὐτός, referring contextually to Christ)
κατοικεῖ – dwells, resides, inhabits
(3rd person singular, present indicative active of κατοικέω – to dwell, settle down)
πᾶν – all, the whole, every
(neuter singular of πᾶς, used here as a substantive adjective modifying πλήρωμα)
τὸ πλήρωμα – the fullness, the totality
(neuter singular noun from πλήρωμα – fullness, that which fills)
τῆς θεότητος – of the Godhead, of divinity
(genitive singular of θεότης, meaning the divine nature or essence)
σωματικῶς – bodily, in bodily form, corporeally
(adverb from σωματικός, pertaining to the body)
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### Full Analytical Gloss:

ὅτι – because ἐν αὐτῷ – in Him (i.e., in Christ) κατοικεῖ – dwells πᾶν – all / the entire τὸ πλήρωμα – the fullness τῆς θεότητος – of the Godhead / divine nature σωματικῶς – bodily / in bodily form
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### Correct English rendering:

"Because in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily."

### Corrupted JW rendering:

“...because it is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality (vague) dwells bodily.”
(edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/26/2025 20:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUwAx_qPpLw
Patristic Nectar
Nasty Religious People
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Lancer
https://youtu.be/Kox1QCcaAsc
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/26/2025 20:10
Great video
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VikingTiger6 06/27/2025 13:34
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/27/2025 14:39
Matthew 10:16
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Matthew 10:16 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Coming Persecutions
<16> "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.
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serpente482 06/27/2025 15:18
be wise as serpente
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serpente482
be wise as serpente
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VikingTiger6
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VikingTiger6 06/28/2025 06:43
i just realized wilhelmus van duyper isint real lol
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Мико⚜🐾 06/28/2025 08:28
08:29
2 Kings 2:11-12 nkjv
BibleBot BOT 06/28/2025 08:29
2 Kings 2:11-12 - New King James Version (NKJV)
<11> Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire, and separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. <12> And Elisha saw it, and he cried out, "My father, my father, the chariot of Israel and its horsemen!" So he saw him no more. And he took hold of his own clothes and tore them into two pieces.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 06/28/2025 17:00
Galatians 3:28
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Galatians 3:28 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<28> There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I'm not all about this extra fluff. I'm just about doing my best to move closer to Christ each day.
Randnew 06/30/2025 08:30
https://x.com/SecretFire79/status/1939495770836652480
☩ 𝕁𝕄𝕋 ☩ (@SecretFire79)
WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE TODAY OBSESSED WITH NOSTALGIA? Why the love for vintage aesthetics, medieval worlds, or stories filled with swords, monsters, magic, and fallen kings trying to reclaim lost thrones? Because deep down, we remember something. Nostalgia isn’t just
Мико⚜🐾 06/30/2025 08:53
https://youtu.be/X2XpNcn8XT8
Luke Smith
Nostalgia Destroys Souls.
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/01/2025 17:01
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Arcane BOT 07/01/2025 17:01
@Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς has reached level 2. GG!
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/01/2025 17:01
St. Kaloyannis III Doukas Vatatzes, one of my favorite saints and a secondary patron saint
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/01/2025 22:44
Found this chart showing the consequences of the Revivalist movement (edited)
22:46
As we can see here, Revivalism and it's subsequent groups were responsible for LaVeyan Satanism
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς
Found this chart showing the consequences of the Revivalist movement (edited)
serpente482 07/02/2025 14:41
Whats revivalism
serpente482
Whats revivalism
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/02/2025 15:26
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_revival
Christian revival
Christian revival is defined as "a period of unusual blessing and activity in the life of the Christian Church". Proponents view revivals as the restoration of the Church to a vital and fervent relationship with God after a period of moral decline, instigated by God, as opposed to an evangelistic campaign.
15:26
Basically what brought forth the Evangelical Movement
VikingTiger6 07/02/2025 16:56
I've heard stories of London before revival and I'm glad it happened
16:56
Because of revival, america used to be known as a Christian nation
16:57
Just because some weeds grew in with the wheat doesn't mean the wheat is to blame
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/02/2025 19:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knRd58kJV_k
Orthodox Wisdom
Hope for Departed Non-Orthodox - St. John Maximovitch
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Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 16:30
Here's an icon I'm hoping to buy soon: https://iconsofsaints.com/products/unusual-icon-of-saint-elder-grigory-yefimovich-rasputin-and-tsarevich-alexei-romanov
Unusual icon of Saint Elder Grigory Yefimovich Rasputin and Tsarevich
Unusual icon depicts Saint Elder Grigory Yefimovich Rasputin and Tsarevich Alexei Romanov A copy of the myrrh-streaming icon, painted with the blessing of the great elder Nikolai Guryanov by the artist Sergey Arsenyev (Monk Grigory). The saint appeared in this form to Sergey (Monk Grigory) near the cell of Father Nikol
16:31
More information on St. Grigori Rasputin: https://orthochristian.com/96664.html
Archpriest Andrew Phillips. The Real Gregory Rasputin
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς
More information on St. Grigori Rasputin: https://orthochristian.com/96664.html
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 16:34
Ahhh nice, an article I had been aware there was some controversy surrounding his name and possible slander but i never looked into it and made my own conclusion
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 16:35
YW
VikingTiger6 07/03/2025 16:49
Is that the same Rasputin who had an affair with the queen?
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 16:49
Sir, stay out of this
16:49
Those were slanders from Freemasons
VikingTiger6 07/03/2025 16:55
I dunno, everywhere he went there were accusations of adultery
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 16:55
and the charges were acquitted
ungen 07/03/2025 16:56
Pickling him was too far honestly
VikingTiger6 07/03/2025 16:57
Yea I don't think he should've been assassinated but I don't think he was a saint, he had a dubious reputation
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 17:00
I think that might be why hes not officially canonised
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 17:12
Yet
17:13
I'll help lead the movement for his official canonization
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 17:58
VikingTiger6 07/03/2025 19:25
How do you think Jesus feels about people praying to images of rasputin?
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 19:44
It's called private/local veneration and it's approved by the Orthodox Church
19:44
In fact, a lot of Orthodox Christians in ROCOR, the True Orthodox synods, and some in the Moscow Patriarchate privately venerate him.
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Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 19:55
Presuming theres an agnosticism on who he is and whether he is a saint from the pov of the Holy Synod
19:55
which is why they haven't declared that Rasputin shouldn't be venerated
19:56
which has been done for certain figures, no problem
19:56
like Origen for instance
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 19:57
Exactly
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@Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς has reached level 8. GG!
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 20:13
There's sadly some figures in OCA that want to make Oriegen out to be a saint when he condemned by the Ecumenical Councils
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Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς
There's sadly some figures in OCA that want to make Oriegen out to be a saint when he condemned by the Ecumenical Councils
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 20:34
He is a good writer, I can understand why people become captivated by him. But ultimately he did err
20:35
And while the Church does not necessarily say he is burning crispy, several of his teaching were condemned according to Evagrius Scholasticus, and the 6th+7th ecumenical council
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 21:02
Yeah
21:03
TBH, with all the craziness going on in the Orthodox Church with the Patriarchs & Archbishops, I can understand why some join the True Orthodox. (edited)
21:04
I personally believe most of the True Orthodox synods to be canonically irregular such as the Florinites, the Romanian Old Calendarists, & the ROCOR synods.
21:04
Especially the GOC-K
21:07
@Мико⚜🐾 What are your thoughts on the True Orthodox issue?
Мико⚜🐾
like Origen for instance
VikingTiger6 07/03/2025 21:34
Whatd origen do wrong? Did they make him not allowed to be venerated because people think he castrated himself?
21:36
Ok I just looked it up
21:36
He believed universalism, thats crazy
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 21:36
Contentious teaching
VikingTiger6
He believed universalism, thats crazy
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 21:36
pre-existence of souls as well
VikingTiger6 07/03/2025 21:36
I thought origen was better than that, I thought he was pretty neat until now
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς
@Мико⚜🐾 What are your thoughts on the True Orthodox issue?
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 21:38
True Orthodox and Old Calendrism? My position on it currently is that well, some of the criticisms they have today about the Orthodox Church do hold true, but their solution is not the one to be made and this can be proven, amongst other things, by the lack of unity amongst them. If they had a united front they could actually put pressure on our hierarchs and make the Church a better place (edited)
21:38
if you understand what i mean
21:39
Also, keep in mind that the criticisms are not the initial criticism they used to justify the schism
GR 07/03/2025 21:40
@VikingTiger6 are you Protestant?
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 21:40
Keep in mind also that while they were treated poorly by the Greek government at times, they were operating illegally
GR
@VikingTiger6 are you Protestant?
VikingTiger6 07/03/2025 21:40
Yes
VikingTiger6
Yes
GR 07/03/2025 21:40
word just curious
VikingTiger6
I thought origen was better than that, I thought he was pretty neat until now
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 21:40
No, hes still half decent, he just erred on certain things obviously and this shouldnt be forgotten when reading his corpus (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
No, hes still half decent, he just erred on certain things obviously and this shouldnt be forgotten when reading his corpus (edited)
VikingTiger6 07/03/2025 21:41
Well yea, that can be said for any theologian
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 21:41
It's honestly super confusing since my friends & I thought of joining the GOC-K, but decided to stay in the fully Canonical Jurisdictions.
21:41
I just hope the issue gets solved in our lifetimes
Мико⚜🐾
True Orthodox and Old Calendrism? My position on it currently is that well, some of the criticisms they have today about the Orthodox Church do hold true, but their solution is not the one to be made and this can be proven, amongst other things, by the lack of unity amongst them. If they had a united front they could actually put pressure on our hierarchs and make the Church a better place (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 21:41
The True Orthodox amongst themselves are not free from heresy either per se, although you could say your average representative of the GOC-K is a more accurate representative of the faith than an EO pop theologian at times (edited)
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 21:42
Yeah
21:42
I noticed some TO Bishops preaching heresy
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς
I just hope the issue gets solved in our lifetimes
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 21:43
Likewise, because their coming back to the Church would genuinely improve the body
21:43
Metropolitan Demetrios seems like a good man
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 21:44
Even Mainline Orthodox Christians seek spiritual advice from him
21:44
We honestly need him to lead GOARCH (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 21:44
my friend says this often
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 21:46
I hope to have him for a meet up/interview for my Orthodox YouTube channel someday
Мико⚜🐾
True Orthodox and Old Calendrism? My position on it currently is that well, some of the criticisms they have today about the Orthodox Church do hold true, but their solution is not the one to be made and this can be proven, amongst other things, by the lack of unity amongst them. If they had a united front they could actually put pressure on our hierarchs and make the Church a better place (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 21:46
then again I have some problems with responses that are given like the whole "fight from within" rhetoric. No, those whom God knows reject the truth and His church are already outside of communion with Him
21:46
Formal condemnation is going to be a recognition and confirmation of that by the Church
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 21:47
Yeah
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 21:47
So, fight from within can be said inasmuch as you are reclaiming the Church from those in err, but not from those who are truly speaking heretics (edited)
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 21:47
It's super confusing
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 21:48
those who God knows rejects the truth in full enough knowledge are used for whatever reason as a vehicle for sacraments and thats really it
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 21:48
I'm hoping to be a Priest in Greece and a lot of the Bishops in Greece are quite anti-Ecumenist and have good relationships with the GOC-K.
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Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 21:48
for instance, Nestorius' sacraments didnt become invalid until the authority to do so was stripped from him
21:48
even though he was in heresy
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς
It's super confusing
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 21:49
yeah, i feel you
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 21:49
I just pray for the issue to be healed
Мико⚜🐾 07/03/2025 21:51
likewise
21:51
I have no hatred in my heart toward them
21:51
https://youtu.be/fvCMKZgfyNY
Arkady Leontyev - Topic
Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, Op. 42: Trisagion and to Cherubic Hymn
Мико⚜🐾
I have no hatred in my heart toward them
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 21:52
Me neither
Мико⚜🐾
https://youtu.be/fvCMKZgfyNY
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/03/2025 21:53
I deeply love Russian Orthodox Chant
21:54
Tchaikovsky's Hymn of the Cheribum is IMO the closest thing we'll get to hearing angels singing on Earth.
21:54
https://youtu.be/KhbuNZ8p3hg?si=_ClTnzt0s1qj9PtE
*•.¸¸✿*AuroraBorealis*✿¸¸.•*
TCHAIKOVSKY - Hymn of the Cherubim
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Мико⚜🐾 07/04/2025 06:41
https://youtu.be/kLAG660epHU
Direttrice choir BSAM
P.Chesnokov, K.Balmont - Holy God (П.Чесноков Святый...
06:41
https://youtu.be/FCPYkf6xpNo
St. Petersburg Chamber Choir - Topic
P. Chesnokov, Hymn to the Mother of God for Holy Pascha, Op. 22, No...
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς
Tchaikovsky's Hymn of the Cheribum is IMO the closest thing we'll get to hearing angels singing on Earth.
Мико⚜🐾 07/04/2025 06:41
Certainly
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/04/2025 15:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHfCds_FNI8
Daily Disciple
Explosive RANT Exposes the TRUTH about Following Jesus
15:17
Oh yeah I've been going through this motion since I officially became a Christian
15:17
It's that old self vs new self thing+
Мико⚜🐾
And while the Church does not necessarily say he is burning crispy, several of his teaching were condemned according to Evagrius Scholasticus, and the 6th+7th ecumenical council
Brøther Særaphim 07/04/2025 18:55
i thought we had a vision of him in hell
Brøther Særaphim
i thought we had a vision of him in hell
Мико⚜🐾 07/04/2025 18:57
There is a vision, but whether it’s dogma or not im unsure of
18:58
Not that it bears much significance anyway, he is not a saint regardless of what his final fate will be (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
There is a vision, but whether it’s dogma or not im unsure of
Brøther Særaphim 07/04/2025 18:58
i think we should promote it just to counter neo origenism, but if the Holy Spirit has saved him, we should declare that, whilst if He has condemned him we should too
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
It's that old self vs new self thing+
Мико⚜🐾 07/04/2025 18:59
Ephesians 4:24
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Ephesians 4:24 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<24> And put on the new man, who according to God is created in justice and holiness of truth.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/05/2025 09:23
1 Corinthians 13:4-8
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1 Corinthians 13:4-8 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<4> Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful; <5> it is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; <6> it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right. <7> Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. <8> Love never ends; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/05/2025 09:24
1 Corinthians 13:4–8 KJV
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1 Corinthians 13:4-8 - King James Version (KJV)
<4> Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, <5> Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; <6> Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; <7> Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. <8> Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/05/2025 09:47
Ecclesiastes 4:9
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Ecclesiastes 4:9 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
The Value of a Friend
<9> Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their toil.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/05/2025 09:47
Ecclesiastes 4:9-8
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Ecclesiastes 4:9 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
The Value of a Friend
<9> Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their toil.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/05/2025 09:47
09:47
Oops
09:47
Ecclesiastes 4:9-10
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Ecclesiastes 4:9-10 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
The Value of a Friend
<9> Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their toil. <10> For if they fall, one will lift up his fellow; but woe to him who is alone when he falls and has not another to lift him up.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/05/2025 11:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH5PGJ7dSaM
Wise Disciple
HEATED Debate: Michael Knowles vs. THE WORLD!
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/05/2025 16:24
Happy Feast of St. John of Shanghai & San Francisco
16:24
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дмитрий 07/05/2025 21:57
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/05/2025 21:57
You're in London?
21:58
I recognize that Cathedral
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς
You're in London?
дмитрий 07/05/2025 21:58
yes
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/05/2025 21:58
I'll be dressed as a Jacobite or Alex DeLarge when I visit London (edited)
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22:00
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/08/2025 17:37
John 15:13
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John 15:13 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<13> Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/08/2025 17:37
John 15:13 KJV
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John 15:13 - King James Version (KJV)
<13> Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/08/2025 18:27
John 15:13 DRA
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John 15:13 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<13> Greater love than this no man hath, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/08/2025 19:35
Brothers
19:36
Do you also sometimes feel as though you aren't doing enough for the Lord?
19:36
Like, you know you pray, you go to church, you share that genuine love of Christ in your heart and yet you still doubt?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Do you also sometimes feel as though you aren't doing enough for the Lord?
serpente482 07/08/2025 20:35
Of course
20:35
Because im not doing enough
20:35
Theres not enough
20:35
Its salvation the reward
20:35
Nothing we can do to deserve it fully
Dear Deer 07/09/2025 02:47
@Мико⚜🐾, Are you a Latinizer?
Dear Deer
@Мико⚜🐾, Are you a Latinizer?
Мико⚜🐾 07/09/2025 02:51
If Latiniser is going to refer to reconciling the irreconcilable in Roman Catholicism with Orthodox Christianity, and innovations not recognised by the Church as valid then no, I’m not a Latiniser by any means. However if it refers to someone who tries to defend the orthodoxy of the Latin Fathers’ from the claims of Reformed, Catholics and even Orthodox who often unfortunately throw them under the bus, then I would be in that sense. (edited)
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Мико⚜🐾
If Latiniser is going to refer to reconciling the irreconcilable in Roman Catholicism with Orthodox Christianity, and innovations not recognised by the Church as valid then no, I’m not a Latiniser by any means. However if it refers to someone who tries to defend the orthodoxy of the Latin Fathers’ from the claims of Reformed, Catholics and even Orthodox who often unfortunately throw them under the bus, then I would be in that sense. (edited)
Dear Deer 07/09/2025 02:55
Based, I'm in the same boat! I actually even got a blessing from my priest to pray the prayer rule of the Theotokos by St. Seraphim of Sarov.. https://www.liturgies.net/Prayers/Orthodox/orthodoxrosary.htm I go to an Eastern rite parish (OCA) but there is a nice Antiochian Western rite near me, that I need to visit someday.
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02:56
I just read the life of St. Ambrose today.
"[...] If he wants my patrimony, take it over; if my body, i will go at once. Do you wish to put me in chains or sentence me to death, it will be a joy to me. I will not defend myself behind a crowd of people, nor will I cling to the altars and beg for my life, but I will gladly be slain for the altars." -- St. Ambrose Letter to Marcellina 1:8.
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Dear Deer
Based, I'm in the same boat! I actually even got a blessing from my priest to pray the prayer rule of the Theotokos by St. Seraphim of Sarov.. https://www.liturgies.net/Prayers/Orthodox/orthodoxrosary.htm I go to an Eastern rite parish (OCA) but there is a nice Antiochian Western rite near me, that I need to visit someday.
Мико⚜🐾 07/09/2025 02:57
Oooh, this prayer, this one is nice
Мико⚜🐾
Oooh, this prayer, this one is nice
Dear Deer 07/09/2025 03:01
One very neat thing I noticed is that, there are 5 decades in a rosary, each decade is 10 Hail Mary(s), there are 15 meditations, 10x15 is 150; The same number as the Psalms. It's the angelic psalter.
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Мико⚜🐾
Oooh, this prayer, this one is nice
Мико⚜🐾 07/09/2025 03:01
Did this with a friend when I stayed at his place
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Dear Deer
Based, I'm in the same boat! I actually even got a blessing from my priest to pray the prayer rule of the Theotokos by St. Seraphim of Sarov.. https://www.liturgies.net/Prayers/Orthodox/orthodoxrosary.htm I go to an Eastern rite parish (OCA) but there is a nice Antiochian Western rite near me, that I need to visit someday.
Мико⚜🐾 07/09/2025 03:04
You should when you can, my friends are planning to visit the new monastery that was taken into Antioch earlier this year
03:04
up in Scotland
03:05
the issue is that the synod to approve of their rite (the Sarum rite) has been pushed back
03:05
and its been pushed back again due to the martyrdom in Damascus seemingly
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Dear Deer
Based, I'm in the same boat! I actually even got a blessing from my priest to pray the prayer rule of the Theotokos by St. Seraphim of Sarov.. https://www.liturgies.net/Prayers/Orthodox/orthodoxrosary.htm I go to an Eastern rite parish (OCA) but there is a nice Antiochian Western rite near me, that I need to visit someday.
Мико⚜🐾 07/09/2025 03:13
Ahh, you're in the OCA? I'm under the MP as well
Мико⚜🐾
Ahh, you're in the OCA? I'm under the MP as well
Dear Deer 07/09/2025 03:15
ROCOR?
Мико⚜🐾 07/09/2025 03:16
no, Moscow Patriarchate
Dear Deer 07/09/2025 03:16
Also watch it, We're technically autocephalous.
Мико⚜🐾 07/09/2025 03:16
Diocese of Sourozh
Dear Deer
Also watch it, We're technically autocephalous.
Мико⚜🐾 07/09/2025 03:16
that is true
Мико⚜🐾
Diocese of Sourozh
Dear Deer 07/09/2025 03:19
Oh, very nice.
Мико⚜🐾 07/09/2025 03:21
even though ROCOR is a bit popular amongst the kids, I like the atmosphere in my MP parish more personally
BibleBot
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Randnew 07/09/2025 06:02
I have nobody to lift me up when I fall
Мико⚜🐾
even though ROCOR is a bit popular amongst the kids, I like the atmosphere in my MP parish more personally
Dear Deer 07/09/2025 06:23
There aren't too many MP parishes here in the sates.
06:24
Although the OCA, ROCOR, and the MP, for the most part are very similar in my unprofessional opinion. If I were to become a priest, it would most likely be under ROCOR.
Мико⚜🐾
even though ROCOR is a bit popular amongst the kids, I like the atmosphere in my MP parish more personally
Dear Deer 07/09/2025 06:38
Say hi to Patriarch Kirill for me.
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Zoraxe 07/09/2025 07:24
Romans 13:8-14
BibleBot BOT 07/09/2025 07:24
Romans 13:8-14 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Love for One Another / An Urgent Appeal
<8> Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. <9> The commandments, "You shall not commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall not covet," and any other commandment, are summed up in this sentence, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." <10> Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. <11> Besides this you know what hour it is, how it is full time now for you to wake from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed; <12> the night is far gone, the day is at hand. Let us then cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light; <13> let us conduct ourselves becomingly as in the day, not in reveling and drunkenness, not in debauchery and licentiousness, not in quarreling and jealousy. <14> But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires.
Мико⚜🐾
If Latiniser is going to refer to reconciling the irreconcilable in Roman Catholicism with Orthodox Christianity, and innovations not recognised by the Church as valid then no, I’m not a Latiniser by any means. However if it refers to someone who tries to defend the orthodoxy of the Latin Fathers’ from the claims of Reformed, Catholics and even Orthodox who often unfortunately throw them under the bus, then I would be in that sense. (edited)
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/09/2025 14:14
Same
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/09/2025 21:09
Dear Deer 07/10/2025 17:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc27-dmJ_4w
harmony
DEATH TO THE WORLD: The Last True Rebellion
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serpente482 07/11/2025 15:08
Eclesiastico 51:1-17
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@Мико⚜🐾 do you know any english site that has this Bible verse in english
15:09
i was going to post it in averi.foo but i cant find it
Мико⚜🐾 07/11/2025 15:09
Ecclesiastes 5:1-17
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BibleBot BOT 07/11/2025 15:09
Ecclesiastes 5:1-17 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<1> Speak not any thing rashly, and let not thy heart be hasty to utter a word before God. For God is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few. <2> Dreams follow many cares: and in many words shall be found folly. <3> If thou hast vowed any thing to God, defer not to pay it: for an unfaithful and foolish promise displeaseth him: but whatsoever thou hast vowed, pay it. <4> And it is much better not to vow, than after a vow not to perform the things promised. <5> Give not thy mouth to cause thy flesh to sin: and say not before the angel: There is no providence: lest God be angry at thy words, and destroy all the works of thy hands. <6> Where there are many dreams, there are many vanities, and words without number: but do thou fear God. <7> If thou shalt see the oppressions of the poor, and violent judgments, and justice perverted in the province, wonder not at this matter: for he that is high hath another higher, and there are others still higher than these: <8> Moreover there is the king that reigneth over all the land subject to him. <9> A covetous man shall not be satisfied with money: and he that loveth riches shall reap no fruit from them: so this also is vanity. <10> Where there are great riches, there are also many to eat them. And what doth it profit the owner, but that he seeth the riches with his eyes? <11> Sleep is sweet to a labouring man, whether he eat little or much: but the fulness of the rich will not suffer him to sleep. <12> There is also another grievous evil, which I have seen under the sun: riches kept to the hurt of the owner. <13> For they are lost with very great affliction: he hath begotten a son, who shall be in extremity of want. <14> As he came forth naked from his mother's womb, so shall he return, and shall take nothing away with him of his labour. <15> A most deplorable evil: as he came, so shall he return. What then doth it profit him that he hath laboured for the wind? <16> All the days of his...
Мико⚜🐾 07/11/2025 15:09
Ecclesiastes 5:16-17
BibleBot BOT 07/11/2025 15:09
Ecclesiastes 5:16-17 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<16> All the days of his life he eateth in darkness, and in many cares, and in misery, and sorrow. <17> This therefore hath seemed good to me, that a man should eat and drink, and enjoy the fruit of his labour, wherewith he hath laboured under the sun, all the days of his life, which God hath given him: and this is his portion.
Мико⚜🐾 07/11/2025 15:09
I was reading this at work yesterday
serpente482 07/11/2025 15:10
Ecclesiastes 51:1-17
15:10
it doesnt work
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Sirach 51:1-17
BibleBot BOT 07/11/2025 15:11
Sirach 51:1-17 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Autobiographical Poem on Wisdom
<1> I will give thanks to thee, O Lord and King, and will praise thee as God my Savior. I give thanks to thy name, <2> for thou hast been my protector and helper and hast delivered my body from destruction and from the snare of a slanderous tongue, from lips that utter lies. Before those who stood by thou wast my helper, <3> and didst deliver me, in the greatness of thy mercy and of thy name, from the gnashings of teeth about to devour me, from the hand of those who sought my life, from the many afflictions that I endured, <4> from choking fire on every side and from the midst of fire which I did not kindle, <5> from the depths of the belly of Hades, from an unclean tongue and lying words— <6> the slander of an unrighteous tongue to the king. My soul drew near to death, and my life was very near to Hades beneath. <7> They surrounded me on every side, and there was no one to help me; I looked for the assistance of men, and there was none. <8> Then I remembered thy mercy, O Lord, and thy work from of old, that thou dost deliver those who wait for thee and dost save them from the hand of their enemies. <9> And I sent up my supplication from the earth, and prayed for deliverance from death. <10> I appealed to the Lord, the Father of my lord, not to forsake me in the days of affliction, at the time when there is no help against the proud. <11> I will praise thy name continually, and will sing praise with thanksgiving. My prayer was heard, <12> for thou didst save me from destruction and rescue me from an evil plight. Therefore I will give thanks to thee and praise thee, and I will bless the name of the Lord. <13> While I was still young, before I went on my travels, I sought wisdom openly in my prayer. <14> Before the temple I asked for her, and I will search for her to the last. <15> From blossom to ripening grape my heart delighted in her; my foot entered upon the straight path; from my youth I followed her steps. <16> I inclined my ear a little and...
serpente482 07/11/2025 15:12
Sirach 51:16-17
BibleBot BOT 07/11/2025 15:12
Sirach 51:16-17 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<16> I inclined my ear a little and received her, and I found for myself much instruction. <17> I made progress therein; to him who gives wisdom I will give glory.
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Мико⚜🐾 07/14/2025 00:42
Accept our evening praise, O benevolent Lord, who darkened the sun when You suffered for us, and brightened every place, with the light of Your resurrection, O Christ. Your vivifying rising illumined the entire earth, and it revived Your creature, which had been ravaged. Now we, who are redeemed from the curse on Man (Adam), cry out to You: Almighty Lord, glory to You! Even as You were unchanging God, You underwent a change as You suffered in the flesh. Creation could not bear it to see You crucified, so it quaked in fear, and it sighed and sang, extolling Your forbearance. You went down to the netherworld, and then You rose on the third day, and to the world You gave life and the great mercy. O Christ, You experienced death, to rescue the human race from death. When on the third day You rose, with yourself You also raised those who acknowledged Your divinity, and You illumined the world. Glory to You, O Lord!
Ὁ τῷ πάθει σου Χριστέ, ἀμαυρώσας τὸν ἥλιον, καὶ τῷ φωτὶ τῆς σῆς ἀναστάσεως, φαιδρύνας τὰ σύμπαντα, πρόσδεξαι ἡμῶν, τὸν ἑσπερινὸν ὕμνον Φιλάνθρωπε. Ἡ ζωοδόχος σου ἔγερσις Κύριε, τὴν οἰκουμένην πᾶσαν ἐφώτισε, καὶ τὸ ἴδιον πλάσμα, φθαρὲν ἀνεκαλέσατο. Διὸ τῆς κατάρας τοῦ Ἀδάμ, ἀπαλλαγέντες βοῶμεν· παντοδύναμε Κύριε δόξα σοι. Θεὸς ὑπάρχων ἀναλλοίωτος, σαρκὶ πάσχων ἠλλοίωσαι· ὃν ἡ κτίσις μὴ φέρουσα, κρεμάμενον ὁρᾷν, τῷ φόβῳ ἐκλονεῖτο, καὶ στένουσα ὕμνει, τὴν σὴν μακροθυμίαν· κατελθὼν ἐν ᾅδῃ δέ, τριήμερος ἀνέστης, ζωὴν τῷ κόσμῳ δωρούμενος, καὶ τὸ μέγα ἔλεος. Ἵνα τὸ γένος ἡμῶν, ἐκ τοῦ θανάτου Χριστὲ λυτρώσῃς, θάνατον ὑπήνεγκας· καὶ τριήμερος ἐκ νεκρῶν ἀναστάς, ἑαυτῷ συνανέστησας, τοὺς σὲ Θεὸν ἐπιγνόντας, καὶ κόσμον ἐφώτισας, Κύριε δόξα σοι.
`Resurrectional Aposticha, Tone 3 (Jul 5th)`
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/16/2025 02:45
https://catalog.obitel-minsk.com/blog/2017/06/an-orthodox-perspective-on-antichris
Editor
An Orthodox Perspective on the antichrist | Church Blog
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02:45
https://www.stgeorgehermitage.org/freemasonry
What is Freemasonry?
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Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/16/2025 14:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-juezQz12L8
Lokotsky
Why did they kill the Tsar? (Russian Orthodox Choir)
14:04
Tsar-Martyr Nicholas, forgive Russia of her treason against God & Tsar
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς
Tsar-Martyr Nicholas, forgive Russia of her treason against God & Tsar
Мико⚜🐾 07/16/2025 14:06
Its his feast day tomorrow
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/16/2025 14:07
Amin
14:07
I just hope I don't cry on that day
AaWoolf 07/17/2025 00:46
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:04_икос_1.oggvorbis.ogg (edited)
File:04 икос 1.oggvorbis.ogg
00:47
the audio file is a little too thick to be uploaded here
Мико⚜🐾 07/17/2025 12:07
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/17/2025 15:17
Today is the Feast of the Romanov Royal Martyrs
15:18
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Randnew 07/17/2025 19:16
https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/encyclicals/documents/20241024-enciclica-dilexit-nos.html
Dilexit nos (24 October 2024) | Francis
Dilexit nos, 24 October 2024
19:16
Pope Francis was such a beautiful soul
19:16
Spits trvth nvkes left & right
19:17
The issues raised by today’s liquid society are much discussed, but this depreciation of the deep core of our humanity – the heart – has a much longer history. We find it already present in Hellenic and pre-Christian rationalism, in post-Christian idealism and in materialism in its various guises. The heart has been ignored in anthropology, and the great philosophical tradition finds it a foreign notion, preferring other concepts such as reason, will or freedom.
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19:18
Literally everyone
19:18
People are always scratching their heads at why the world is the way it is
19:18
To answer this, most people simply point fingers
19:18
Find something online that tells you what to think
19:18
Problem solved
19:19
Now repeat what you heard & then forget about it & move on with life
19:19
If you do this, you will still be unsatisfied
19:19
That's because the solution to the world is to look inward
19:19
Don't look at political or economic models or talking points
19:19
Look inward
19:19
Look at your heart
19:20
The heart isn't some vague poetic language
19:20
The heart is a real thing
19:20
The heart is our faculty that hosts our soul & our capability to love
19:21
In a way, the heart is the essence of your image & your likeness to God
19:21
"We were made in the image & likeness of God"
19:22
Okay what the heck does that even mean?
19:22
The saints say that it's the soul
19:22
The soul is the image of God. Not the body
19:23
The essense of you is your heart
19:23
Your soul, thinking, feeling, integrity, love
19:24
The problems of life can not be solved by engaging in book cucking
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Randnew
https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/encyclicals/documents/20241024-enciclica-dilexit-nos.html
Мико⚜🐾 07/17/2025 19:24
will read this on the train
Randnew 07/17/2025 19:24
"If we tamper with the collective human mental state to get the right chemical imbalance, all of our problems will go away
Мико⚜🐾 07/17/2025 19:24
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Randnew 07/17/2025 19:25
Where's that?
Мико⚜🐾
will read this on the train
Randnew 07/17/2025 19:25
It's so based
Randnew
"If we tamper with the collective human mental state to get the right chemical imbalance, all of our problems will go away
Randnew 07/17/2025 19:26
Therefore, we need to support this obscure political faction & then call it a day"
19:26
I don't think that eco anarcho-pacifism or what have you is going to stop people from raping each other
19:27
We need to look inward
19:27
Why are humans so cruel? You're a human. Look inward
19:27
Oh. We have hearts. We have souls
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We have value that is far greater than what is observed on the outside
19:29
The heart is not abstract unicorn lore. It is what enables us to engage in thinking & rationalism to begin with
19:29
& what do you see in all the evil & wrongdoing in the world
19:29
You notice that it is commited when people abandon their hearts
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Abandon feelings & thought
19:30
The heart isn't gone. It's still there, but it has been obscured by growing, unkept weeds
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& because your heart is quintessential to your identity
19:31
You lose your integrity when your heart becomes obfuscated
19:32
People who commit acts of evil have no integrity
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Instead it's constant self-deception
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& lack of any need to care about thinking & feeling
19:33
It is important to have integrity & cherish the integrity of other people
19:33
Everything you do is determined by your heart because it is quintessential
19:33
You can examine your heart by looking at your life history & all of your actions
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They speak everything about what you are
19:34
No matter how hard you try to not be yourself, your identity is still there
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& this is sort of on another note, but one of the most important things you need to do to connect with people & truly love them is to have an open heart with full integrity on display
Arcane BOT 07/17/2025 19:36
@Randnew has reached level 25. GG!
Randnew
& this is sort of on another note, but one of the most important things you need to do to connect with people & truly love them is to have an open heart with full integrity on display
Randnew 07/17/2025 19:37
This involves total thinking, feeling, & emotion
19:37
When you read about the saints, they faced life's bare rear end & they maintained their cheerfulness
19:37
It's genuinely incredible
19:40
When Saint Barbara was being hunted down by her father, she maintained the fullness of her faith, cheerfulness, & enthusiasm. Full integrity & heart on display
19:40
So many of us are caught up in our own fears all the time & it makes it difficult to really be ourselves anymore
19:41
If someone has ever hurt you, it can feel like you just changed. You feel like you've lost yourself
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& it's entirely understandable to live in fear when someone hurts you so much
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Or to live in anger & bitterness
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But when you look at the lives of the saints, you don't see that. Instead, you see the saints maintaining their faith & courage
19:42
It's absolutely mind-blowing
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Yet it is also inspiring
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I have been hurt before. When I began converting to Catholicism, I have had people closest to me stab me on the back & watch me bleed out on the ground
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With such a tragedy, how could I even be myself anymore? Why don't I just live the rest of my life hiding from everyone?
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19:44
I learned that it's because that behavior will kill you
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It's backwards thinking
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It's effectively killing yourself so you can't be killed by someone else
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What you do in these trials is you think like the saints
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God is for you, therefore nobody is against you. Everyone else is gay & retarded
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So just be yourself. Keep your smile & maintain your sense of humor
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& most importantly, keep the commandments of God most near to you
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19:46
Indulge in trials with a sense of humor
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There is something so otherworldly when you read about the saints & how they endure everything with joy
Randnew
It's so based
Мико⚜🐾 07/17/2025 19:52
this is my parish
19:52
its in London
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Randnew
The problems of life can not be solved by engaging in book cucking
serpente482 07/17/2025 20:01
Goes hard
serpente482
Goes hard
Randnew 07/17/2025 20:49
Pin that thang
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Мико⚜🐾 07/18/2025 00:37
found a nice icon
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Randnew 07/18/2025 00:51
We miss you Tsar Nicholas II
00:51
COME BACK FROM THE DEAD
Randnew
COME BACK FROM THE DEAD
Dear Deer 07/18/2025 02:03
He isn't dead.
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς
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Dear Deer 07/18/2025 02:04
I have an icon of him.
Dear Deer
I have an icon of him.
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/18/2025 02:06
Same
Dear Deer
He isn't dead.
Randnew 07/18/2025 02:27
Oh, right. You guys canonized him
Lancer 07/18/2025 02:54
https://youtu.be/yDPkd-d4trw
Redeemed Zoomer
Why there will be Dinosaurs in heaven
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Lancer
https://youtu.be/yDPkd-d4trw
VikingTiger6 07/18/2025 02:55
even in the protestant servers this guys a laughing stock
Lancer 07/18/2025 02:55
lol
02:56
Not a bad video though, just silly at most
VikingTiger6 07/18/2025 02:56
yea i just read the title and came to conclusion
Lancer 07/18/2025 02:57
Never seen much of the channel so I am not going to agree on any judgement just yet I will just say that it does not look interesting
VikingTiger6 07/18/2025 02:57
ive seen some of his stuff, i think he gets alotta flak because his voice is annoying and hes kinda young and does the typical things young people do
Lancer 07/18/2025 02:58
Cant be any more annoying than atheist channels trying to be funny
VikingTiger6 07/18/2025 03:00
i dont think animals have eternal souls personally, i think their souls die when they die
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but i might be wrong
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i cant wait for heaven when God makes everything known
Lancer 07/18/2025 03:01
Imagine if we got to see new colors (edited)
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Why did it correct colors to Colorado
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Wtf propaganda
VikingTiger6 07/18/2025 03:02
thatd be neat
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i bet our current colours will be better in heaven
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kinda like how you remember them being better when you were a kid
Lancer 07/18/2025 03:03
Never had that tbh
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/18/2025 10:19
Mark 9:42
BibleBot BOT 07/18/2025 10:19
Mark 9:42 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Temptations to Sin
<42> "Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung round his neck and he were thrown into the sea.
Dear Deer 07/20/2025 01:52
Get your prayers in while you can: https://www.oca.org/saints/lives/2025/07/19/102053-uncovering-of-the-relics-of-venerable-seraphim-of-sarov
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Mark 9:42
Dear Deer 07/20/2025 01:53
Luke 14:26 RSVCE
BibleBot BOT 07/20/2025 01:53
Luke 14:26 - Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
"If any one comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/21/2025 19:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQLt0lm8RkM
TheArchive
NEW Studies Show Christianity IS GROWING In The UK & US...Islam Is ...
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Dear Deer 07/22/2025 04:31
https://www.saintjohnchurch.org/transgenderism/
Orthodox Christianity And Transgenderism
With respect to those who insist on identifying as transgender, the Orthodox Church teaches that Divine Providence does not make mistakes.
04:32
Good read
04:34
@Мико⚜🐾, look! it's your Patriarch! https://www.intellinews.com/western-acceptance-of-gender-transitioning-is-horrifying-and-apocalyptic-says-head-of-russian-church-360256/ (edited)
Western acceptance of gender transitioning is “horrifying” and...
Patriarch Kirill, head of the Russian Orthodox Church, has&nbsp;denounced&nbsp;gender transitioning as a 'horrifying trend' and 'a sin,' attributing ...
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04:34
Being based as always.
04:35
(Libshit source)
Lancer
https://youtu.be/yDPkd-d4trw
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:16
Didn't RZ blaspheme the Sacred Heart?
18:16
He's been going on an anti-catholic rampage
18:17
He accused the Catholic church of senslessly nullifying marriages in Lateran II
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:17
Anyone can call anything blasphemy and I would not know since I do not pay attention to the channel
Randnew
He accused the Catholic church of senslessly nullifying marriages in Lateran II
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:17
Even though the paragraph literally right next to the one he references in his short debunks his entire video
Lancer
Anyone can call anything blasphemy and I would not know since I do not pay attention to the channel
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:17
Yeah I don't know all much about it
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:18
Lol he ain't even my go to channel anyway
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:18
good
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:18
I just found that video funny
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:18
RZ is a great introduction to Christianity but don't rely on everything he says
Randnew
RZ is a great introduction to Christianity but don't rely on everything he says
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:18
*introduction to theology
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:19
I follow mostly IP and some of the guys they stream with
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:19
If you want a good introduction to Christianity on YouTube that's entertaining, there's this small creator called urfriendlyhood. He is a big-time heretic but what he says in his video series about the book of Romans is pretty solid & helped me get here
Randnew
If you want a good introduction to Christianity on YouTube that's entertaining, there's this small creator called urfriendlyhood. He is a big-time heretic but what he says in his video series about the book of Romans is pretty solid & helped me get here
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:20
But ultimately you shouldn't be relying on YouTubers & entertainers
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You should be like actually reading
18:20
Even though reading sucks
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:20
Make it not suck
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:20
Yuh
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:20
Just a hardship to overcome
18:21
Well saying "just" makes it seems little but I just mean that it is normal for things to be hard
Randnew
If you want a good introduction to Christianity on YouTube that's entertaining, there's this small creator called urfriendlyhood. He is a big-time heretic but what he says in his video series about the book of Romans is pretty solid & helped me get here
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:22
Very honest of you to criticize someone but also admit you used their content to get somewhere
18:23
Takes balls to do so
Lancer
Takes balls to do so
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:25
It's just true
18:25
I'm just being honest
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Dear Deer
https://www.saintjohnchurch.org/transgenderism/
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:25
Trans believers will say "well more everyone needs or wants surgery" While ignoring the fact that even if not all of them recommend or get it, they still leage it as "an choice" Those procedures are honestly horrifying, I shudder to think of the phantom limb effect a guy would get after getting his penis modified like that
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:26
It should be illegal for everyone
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:26
Yes
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:26
Conservacucks say that it should only be illegal for children
18:26
because they are gay
18:26
Illegal for adults too
18:26
Don't ban trannies from female restrooms. Ban them from male restrooms too. Actually, ban them from ever being seen in public
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:27
Mentally ill adults exist and they are not in any right state to modify their bodies And even if they are not ill, they should still not be able to do it period (edited)
Randnew
Don't ban trannies from female restrooms. Ban them from male restrooms too. Actually, ban them from ever being seen in public
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:27
It's not cruel or inhumane. It's a precondition for people to not go down such a dark path
Randnew
Don't ban trannies from female restrooms. Ban them from male restrooms too. Actually, ban them from ever being seen in public
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:28
Nah too far Banning them from the spaces they think they "should be in" is enough "Banned from public" sounds cartoonishly dumb and ineffective
Lancer
Nah too far Banning them from the spaces they think they "should be in" is enough "Banned from public" sounds cartoonishly dumb and ineffective
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:28
I suppose so
18:29
I think if we ban porn then that would be enough
18:29
Because once porn is gone, the 'rannies start magically disappearing
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:29
Porn is hardly half of the issue, it goes way deeper, there is a reason it all got so far
Randnew
Because once porn is gone, the 'rannies start magically disappearing
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:30
& the 'rannies who don't watch porn are just autistic women kinda doing their own thing. I don't think they pose as much as a threat
Lancer
Porn is hardly half of the issue, it goes way deeper, there is a reason it all got so far
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:30
It's goonerism that has transcended into the desire to become one's own god of their body
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:31
Nah i don't buy it, that would be too simple
18:31
It has to be more
18:32
I really think that is not the full picture, no big problem is ever this simple
Lancer
I really think that is not the full picture, no big problem is ever this simple
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:32
tvre
18:32
trve
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:32
I wish it was man But that's just life in this world of ours
18:33
Also Tell me about your rpg later
Lancer
Also Tell me about your rpg later
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:37
The core story of the game tackles the ideology of the modern world & the emptiness it produces, & how it compares to the gospel & love. At the same time, the game is being designed for a "secular" audience. So all of the themes explored are rather implicit & subtle, but still very much there
18:37
I want to see a video game attempt to evangelize effectively
18:37
Doesn't need to be explicit
18:38
but enough to get the player, if they care enough, to think about the themes
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:38
make deltarune if it was a good game
Arcane BOT 07/22/2025 18:38
@Lancer has reached level 8. GG!
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:38
& then come to their own conclusions
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:38
Jk
Lancer
make deltarune if it was a good game
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:38
lmao yes
Randnew
The core story of the game tackles the ideology of the modern world & the emptiness it produces, & how it compares to the gospel & love. At the same time, the game is being designed for a "secular" audience. So all of the themes explored are rather implicit & subtle, but still very much there
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:38
Actually I lied. It's gonna be a quirky EarthBound-inspired RPG with themes of depression
18:39
Because I've never seen a game like that before
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:39
Lancer
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/22/2025 18:40
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:40
OFF is my favorite RPG Main character literally only exists for the sole purpose of killing evil
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:40
Lancer
OFF is my favorite RPG Main character literally only exists for the sole purpose of killing evil
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:40
OFF?
18:41
Is that the game where you collect a bunch of rings that fight as party members
Lancer
OFF is my favorite RPG Main character literally only exists for the sole purpose of killing evil
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/22/2025 18:41
Pepper steak
Randnew
Is that the game where you collect a bunch of rings that fight as party members
Lancer 07/22/2025 18:41
Yes Also let's move to gaming
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:55
Matthew 12:1-8 DRA
BibleBot BOT 07/22/2025 18:55
Matthew 12:1-8 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<1> At that time Jesus went through the corn on the sabbath: and his disciples being hungry, began to pluck the ears, and to eat. <2> And the Pharisees seeing them, said to him: Behold thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do on the sabbath days. <3> But he said to them: Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, and they that were with him: <4> How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the loaves of proposition, which it was not lawful for him to eat, nor for them that were with him, but for the priests only? <5> Or have ye not read in the law, that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple break the sabbath, and are without blame? <6> But I tell you that there is here a greater than the temple. <7> And if you knew what this meaneth: I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: you would never have condemned the innocent. <8> For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath.
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:55
Matthew 23:1-4 DRA
BibleBot BOT 07/22/2025 18:55
Matthew 23:1-4 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<1> Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to his disciples, <2> Saying: The scribes and the Pharisees have sitten on the chair of Moses. <3> All things therefore whatsoever they shall say to you, observe and do: but according to their works do ye not; for they say, and do not. <4> For they bind heavy and insupportable burdens, and lay them on men's shoulders; but with a finger of their own they will not move them.
Randnew 07/22/2025 18:55
Hmm
18:56
The pharisees held authority to interpret the law, yet they misinterpreted it to accuse Jesus of breaking it
18:57
Did they genuinely interpret plucking bread as doing work or did they only say that for the sake of accusing Jesus?
18:57
If it's the latter, then that means they'd have approved of plucking bread on the Sabbath & are being hypocritical to accuse Him
18:58
So is it a special unreasonable standard they only applied to Jesus & His disciples? (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/22/2025 19:02
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vQBis52XKi0
Shamounian Explains
Muslim Sheikh READS the QURAN in a CHURCH and THIS happens...
VikingTiger6 07/22/2025 22:56
6
AaWoolf 07/23/2025 21:01
If there is no greater Love than to lay down one's life for one's friend, Then there is no greater pain than to see others perish while keeping one's own life
6
1
Мико⚜🐾 07/24/2025 12:29
https://youtu.be/JbHlLP7-wsc
Orthodox Wisdom
The Call of Christ - Fr. George Calciu
3
Мико⚜🐾 07/25/2025 10:34
https://youtu.be/FCPYkf6xpNo
St. Petersburg Chamber Choir - Topic
P. Chesnokov, Hymn to the Mother of God for Holy Pascha, Op. 22, No...
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/25/2025 11:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiNWcUVKhBQ
Mike Stories
The Most Evil Christian Denominations
11:30
Man, a lot of these have something in common... hmmmm
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Мико⚜🐾 07/26/2025 19:40
serpente482 07/27/2025 09:46
https://www.catholicworldmission.org/post/10-amazing-eucharistic-miracles
10 Amazing Eucharistic Miracles
Eucharistic miracles have occurred throughout the history of Catholicism. A Eucharistic miracle involves the body and blood of the Eucharist taking on biological qualities of Christ’s blood, flesh, or both. These extraordinary events have helped people see the spiritual reality of God’s hand behind the physical world, reminding Catholics eve...
09:46
Ive been reading about miracles
09:46
Why is the Catholic Church the only one that seriously considers and investigate them?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/27/2025 13:44
Miracles can't be recreated so studying them is difficult I'd imagine
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Miracles can't be recreated so studying them is difficult I'd imagine
serpente482 07/27/2025 15:14
You investigate every single natural cause posible and if theres no physical explanation then its a miracle
15:14
But the process takes a lot of years
15:15
Still the eucharistic miracle in which heart blood appears in the Holy Bread is amazing
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/27/2025 15:16
Oh I thought you were questioning why miracles haven't be investigated in a scientific sense
serpente482 07/27/2025 15:16
They are
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/27/2025 15:16
Well they cannot be repeated is what I mean and scientific methods usually bank on repeat testing.
serpente482 07/27/2025 15:17
Not really
15:17
If you want to find why a boat sank you dont need to sink another boat
15:18
A miracle only becomes official if there is no doubt its something unexplainable
15:18
Very few meet the quota
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/27/2025 15:19
I recall seeing somewhere about someone arguing against the existence of miracles because "there would have to be plenty of tests".
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I recall seeing somewhere about someone arguing against the existence of miracles because "there would have to be plenty of tests".
serpente482 07/27/2025 15:19
There are
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/27/2025 15:19
As in they were trying to apply the scientific method to miracles.
serpente482 07/27/2025 15:19
They do
15:20
But it doesnt work
15:20
Believing or not believing in miracles is not a matter of knowledge
15:20
Its a matter of interest
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/27/2025 15:20
Look even if you choose to not believe in miracles, that doesn't stop miracles from being real.
serpente482 07/27/2025 15:21
People know there are plenty of things that can definetly be miracles, but they dont want to look into it
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/27/2025 15:21
Existence itself is a miracle but Atheists like to ignore that.
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Мико⚜🐾 07/27/2025 15:23
Eucharistic miracles of this nature do happen in the Eastern Church, however they usually signify to us a bad omen
15:23
Anything w/ blood does, and if there is a liturgy happening it is immediately stopped
Мико⚜🐾
Anything w/ blood does, and if there is a liturgy happening it is immediately stopped
serpente482 07/27/2025 15:24
???
15:25
The Eucharist involves blood
15:25
Its the BODY and the BLOOD of Christ
Мико⚜🐾
Eucharistic miracles of this nature do happen in the Eastern Church, however they usually signify to us a bad omen
serpente482 07/27/2025 15:26
Are they investigated?
Мико⚜🐾 07/27/2025 15:27
It’s not to say that it itself is a bad thing or something not from God, it’s just that it usually is a warning to someone or about something (edited)
15:28
It will sometimes happen when the priest doesn’t believe in the real presence, for example It is understood to be a miracle, just not necessarily something to celebrate (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/27/2025 15:28
Boys
15:28
New hobby/idea unlocked.
15:29
I know there's a spiritualist store in Bristol and Cardiff.
serpente482
The Eucharist involves blood
Мико⚜🐾 07/27/2025 15:30
This is true, but the whole idea of transubstantiation, the substance of the bread and wine being destroyed while the accidents of the bread and wine remaining the same, is that the accidents remain the same. Not that it literally turns into Christ’s blood and flesh.
serpente482
Ive been reading about miracles
Мико⚜🐾 07/27/2025 15:32
You should read about the shroud of Turin and the Lady of Guadelupe icon
15:33
Мико⚜🐾
You should read about the shroud of Turin and the Lady of Guadelupe icon
serpente482 07/27/2025 15:33
I have
15:33
Some time ago
15:34
My dad watched a exorcism scary movie yesterday so i googled about real cases
15:34
Scary
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/27/2025 15:40
What's your stances on the Shroud?
Мико⚜🐾 07/27/2025 16:12
authentic
serpente482 07/27/2025 16:12
Authentic
Мико⚜🐾 07/27/2025 16:12
dated to the 1st century, with no chance of the bodily fluids to have left such an imprint on the cloak
serpente482 07/27/2025 16:12
Miracles are real
Мико⚜🐾 07/27/2025 16:12
Not to mention that it wwas unknown that the shroud even had an imprint of a person on it
16:13
Until last century, despite it being proclaimed as the burial cloak of Christ..
16:13
it’s pretty clear what is going on hahaha
serpente482 07/27/2025 16:14
Still the most impressive ones for me are the eucharistic ones
16:15
The rest can be absolute massive coincidence if you want to be ultra esceptic
16:16
But the blood of the heart of a human man which appeared to be a heart that had been injured and there being still many fully conserved occassions in which they happened its ultra convincing
16:16
I want to travel to see one now
serpente482
Are they investigated?
Мико⚜🐾 07/27/2025 16:17
The blood hasn’t been tested, no, but there are investigations carried out to see whether the event actually occured (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
The blood hasn’t been tested, no, but there are investigations carried out to see whether the event actually occured (edited)
serpente482 07/27/2025 16:18
Why not
16:18
Francis was involved in one investigation before he became Pope
16:19
Its awesome
16:20
God always looks for us even if we do wrong and sin or doubt
16:20
Always with us protecting us
Мико⚜🐾 07/27/2025 19:24
serpente482
Why not
Мико⚜🐾 07/27/2025 19:24
unsure, we should do it sometime ig
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/27/2025 21:55
@Мико⚜🐾 @serpente482 Can you lose your salvation, yes/no?
Мико⚜🐾 07/27/2025 22:00
Yes, God can withdraw His grace from you
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 @serpente482 Can you lose your salvation, yes/no?
serpente482 07/27/2025 22:03
By choice
Мико⚜🐾 07/27/2025 22:14
As Serpente said
22:14
God doesn't just arbitrarily take away the gift of salvation, maybe I wasn't clear If you lose your salvation this is as a result of your rejection of God’s grace, which then leads God to withdraw it (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/27/2025 22:16
So then salvation can be lost.
Мико⚜🐾 07/27/2025 22:16
Yes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/27/2025 22:26
Glad we agree
22:26
I think the idea of "once saved always saved" is dangerous.
22:26
It assumes your salvation is not as special as it is.
22:27
Because eh, who cares what you do in life now? Once saved always saved o algo.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I think the idea of "once saved always saved" is dangerous.
serpente482 07/28/2025 13:25
Is that from calvin?
serpente482
Is that from calvin?
Мико⚜🐾 07/28/2025 13:36
No, but it is from his intellectual children
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
What's your stances on the Shroud?
Brøther Særaphim 07/28/2025 16:03
authentic, i live near to it
Мико⚜🐾
No, but it is from his intellectual children
serpente482 07/28/2025 16:07
I saw a video from a channel i used to follow (unfollowed for that video) about the middle ages and he talks about the cathars or whatever the french heretics from the 12th century or something were called
16:08
He described them as "following the primitive christian lifestyle, they were popular with women because they allowed freedom to them and they disappeared because the Pope made a crusade after they refused to pay taxes to the Church"
16:09
And the comments was full of you know what kind of people
16:10
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/28/2025 17:54
For me personally, I'd like to believe the shroud is real. It's one of those things that "feels too good to be true", you know?
17:54
I don't know if I do or not. It feels too perfect.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
For me personally, I'd like to believe the shroud is real. It's one of those things that "feels too good to be true", you know?
Мико⚜🐾 07/28/2025 18:03
https://youtu.be/YT1R2kDPHFA
Dr. John Campbell
Shroud studies
Мико⚜🐾
https://youtu.be/YT1R2kDPHFA
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/28/2025 18:19
More than anything, the explanation of the suffering that Jesus endured is pulling at my heart strings.
18:19
Reminding me of The Passion of Christ. That was difficult to watch.
Мико⚜🐾 07/28/2025 18:21
It truly is
18:21
God Himself, He assumed our nature and suffered all of that, for us!
18:21
It’s the most tragic but also the most beautiful thing
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/28/2025 18:21
He suffered for a miserable sack of shit like me.
18:22
18:22
Lord have mercy, I am not worthy of your grace.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
He suffered for a miserable sack of shit like me.
Мико⚜🐾 07/28/2025 18:22
What I was thinking for all of Good Friday
Мико⚜🐾 07/28/2025 18:29
ofc, it comes to mind often, but especially on that day this year
Randnew 07/29/2025 03:17
I began to notice I'm increasingly struggling to comprehend scripture. Is this a sign that my faith is declining?
Arcane BOT 07/29/2025 03:17
@Randnew has reached level 27. GG!
Randnew
I began to notice I'm increasingly struggling to comprehend scripture. Is this a sign that my faith is declining?
Randnew 07/29/2025 03:20
Same with all my homework assignments too actually
Randnew
I began to notice I'm increasingly struggling to comprehend scripture. Is this a sign that my faith is declining?
Мико⚜🐾 07/29/2025 05:04
if youre beginning to struggle, using a commentary can be handy
Мико⚜🐾
if youre beginning to struggle, using a commentary can be handy
Randnew 07/29/2025 05:05
Church father commentaries often like to ramble into their own trains of thought & it's hard to follow along
Мико⚜🐾 07/29/2025 21:26
https://youtu.be/Bxq7X9uU1D8
The Voice of Faith
"Преблагословенна еси..." - А. Пилипенок
Randnew
Church father commentaries often like to ramble into their own trains of thought & it's hard to follow along
Мико⚜🐾 07/29/2025 21:27
Theophylact of Ohrid’s one might be handy to you, it’s pretty straightforward
21:27
And not too contemplative
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Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/30/2025 01:20
I'm planning on switching from the GOARCH to the GOC under Archbishop Kallinikos (edited)
01:21
VikingTiger6 07/30/2025 02:15
Zoraxe 07/30/2025 04:58
Gonna be reading this alongside the Men's Fellowship at my church
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς
I'm planning on switching from the GOARCH to the GOC under Archbishop Kallinikos (edited)
Brøther Særaphim 07/30/2025 16:52
awful idea
16:52
@Мико⚜🐾 redpill him
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς
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Мико⚜🐾 07/30/2025 16:56
You’re planning to go under the GOC-K? I mean, I like Met. Demetrios, but I personally wouldn’t recommend it
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/30/2025 16:58
Not 100%, but it's definitely an option
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 07/30/2025 17:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvQiAno-V1M&list=PLHPIaJS4yokYhOkykoFdui9sNPqx1JjjF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg_iuB-cwK4&list=PLHPIaJS4yokYhOkykoFdui9sNPqx1JjjF
Seraphim
la bellezza del deserto - canto dei monaci Ortodossi
Seraphim
Dopo il mare e dopo il cielo - Canto Ortodosso della "lunga notte" ...
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/31/2025 10:49
Just saw the most fire comment talking about New Atheism
10:49
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 07/31/2025 15:49
@Мико⚜🐾 For those fringe people who are extremely mentally disturbed beyond recognising their own actions, who would then go on to kill people, what does their salvation look like, do you think? Are they maybe trialed first or, what?
Randnew 07/31/2025 17:19
From 1995 to 2009, approximately 670 million legal abortions were performed. Around 2 billion were born, of which 200 million have died already. That means that an entire third of my Generation is simply gone. One in three Zoomers is dead.
VikingTiger6
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Randnew 07/31/2025 17:20
Arminianism is gay
17:20
We are predestined to salvation
17:21
This is what the Bible teaches. It's what the church fathers taught
17:21
It's what the Catholic church teaches
Randnew 08/01/2025 05:07
The bruised reed he shall not break, and smoking flax he shall not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.
- Isaias 42:3
BibleBot BOT 08/01/2025 05:07
Isaiah 42:3 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<3> a bruised reed he will not break, and a dimly burning wick he will not quench; he will faithfully bring forth justice.
Randnew 08/01/2025 05:07
I hate that translation choice
05:07
I would translate it as something like this...
05:12
The broken whistle he shall not throw away, & a burning candle he shall not put out: Actually, he shall bring forth justce
Randnew
The bruised reed he shall not break, and smoking flax he shall not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.
- Isaias 42:3
Randnew 08/01/2025 05:12
This is Douay-Rheims which is based off of the Vulgate
05:13
In the Vulgate, the word order for the last clause goes something like; "In truth, he shall bring forth justice" (edited)
05:13
Which I'm sure Latin works very differently with word order
05:13
But it seems to me like the "in truth" part at the beginning of the clause implies a "well, actually"
Randnew
The broken whistle he shall not throw away, & a burning candle he shall not put out: Actually, he shall bring forth justce
Randnew 08/01/2025 05:16
He shall not throw away a broken whistle nor put out a burning candle. Actually, he shall bring forth justice (edited)
05:16
That's how I'd translate Isaiah 42:3
BibleBot BOT 08/01/2025 05:16
Isaiah 42:3 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<3> a bruised reed he will not break, and a dimly burning wick he will not quench; he will faithfully bring forth justice.
Randnew 08/01/2025 05:16
shut up
05:17
I'm sorry Bible Bot
05:17
But I literally translated that twice
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/01/2025 08:10
08:10
Geg
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/01/2025 09:30
3
09:30
No fucking way
09:31
>be the first cousin of the "prophet" muhammad >convert to Christianity GEG
VikingTiger6 08/01/2025 17:01
It gets even funnier, a dude who helped write the Quran apostated after realizing it was fake
VikingTiger6
It gets even funnier, a dude who helped write the Quran apostated after realizing it was fake
serpente482 08/01/2025 18:35
apparently muslims cannot have more than 4 wives
18:35
except mohammad
18:35
cuz Allah told him
18:36
serpente482
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Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 08/01/2025 18:51
I love Peter Griffin
Randnew 08/01/2025 19:17
I just realized something
19:18
So you know how some atheists say that religion is a cope to deal with existentialism?
19:18
Like the argument goes that people are scared of what happens after they die so they make up heaven as a cope
19:19
Have you realized that the argument works in reverse to atheists?
19:19
Because most atheists believe in eternal oblivion (edited)
19:19
Once you die, it's like eternal lights out
19:19
That itself is also a cope
19:19
There is no evidence for it
19:20
The closest evidence for it is people who become unconscious & regain consciousness because they experienced "temporary death"
19:20
But that isn't even sufficient because you don't know what happens while your unconscious
19:20
& atheists say they actually find comfort in eternal oblivion
19:20
because once you stop existing, you don't need to worry about anything
19:20
You feel no pain
19:21
Sure, you feel no pleasure either, but that doesn't matter because you won't exist to even care about that anyways
19:21
In reality, from an agnostic perspective, you can't say you can prove anything about the afterlife
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For all you know, it could be terrible
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Putting religion aside, the reason why we fear death is because we care about our well-being & we have no clue what happens after death
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Atheism unironically is a cope
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Most atheists/agnostics believe in eternal oblivion
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It's a belief that provides comfort & there is no evidence of it
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The argument that people believe in a heaven because they can't cope with death applies to atheists as well
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No matter what people tell themselves, they will never get past the fact that they truly do not know what happens after you die & can only dread
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So instead of confronting the issue, they drown themselves with the distractions of life
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& life is just meaningless distractions
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Entertain yourself until your heart gives out
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literally
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Run away from all of your suffering in an endless cycle to feel pleasure
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The reality is, we do have an answer to the afterlife question
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Jesus of Nazareth was crucified by the jews & romans
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& he came back to life to tell the tale
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But what He said is not comforting in the way that most people would like to think
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Jesus tells us that we were created by a Father who is all powerful & loves us dearly
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But what He said about the afterlife was offensive
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Jesus said that we are all going to hell
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Because we are sinners with no life in us
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God must punish us for our sins because He is a just god
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Not only that; God is perfectly just. Therefore, we must face eternal damnation
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If damnation is not eternal then God is not perfectly just
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& everyone has failed to live morally
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People like to think; "Good people go to Heaven & bad people go to hell"
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That is true, but where are the good people? There are none
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The reality of the existential question is that there is an afterlife & it does not look pretty
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It is eternal: Full of suffering
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Never ending
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years will pass
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still hell
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Trillions & trillions of years pass
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The clock never ticks
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But fortunately, Jesus tells us why He was crucified to begin with
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The truth is He is God & God does love you
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God became man to be nailed to the cross so that HE goes to hell & pays for everyone's sins
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This is done to atone for the sins of humanity
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Randnew 08/01/2025 19:34
& if you simply put your faith in Jesus, your faith will be counted for righteousness
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You don't need to do anything to earn it, because you can't. You can't correct your wrongdoings. You can never undo your sins because you have chosen to commit them. You will never undo what you have done & what you've failed to do
19:36
But if you put your faith in Jesus Christ & you believe in Him, you will be saved
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/01/2025 21:58
https://vxtwitter.com/nypost/status/1951316964732715233
New York Post (@nypost)
Shroud of Turin didn’t wrap Jesus’ crucified body — it was just art, new research claims https://trib.al/iDdi2mR
21:58
(((they))) are trying to tell you it's fake
21:58
Can I get uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh early life check on Wikipedia of the author.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Can I get uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh early life check on Wikipedia of the author.
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/01/2025 22:02
He's a chink
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/01/2025 22:02
Мико⚜🐾 08/03/2025 15:30
https://youtu.be/SnNw0ei6s1U
Chamber Choir Lege Artis - Topic
Thy Last Suppe No. 9, Op. 27
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Brøther Særaphim 08/03/2025 17:28
this was heavy. i stumbled upon this just now
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17:29
"you have killed my son"
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 08/03/2025 20:46
Мико⚜🐾 08/04/2025 09:17
‘The fact that man was able to commit sin and thereby bring about all its consequences often gives rise to a tormenting incomprehension—and sometimes even to doubt in the goodness of God or in His existence at all. We often hear: “If God is good, He cannot allow evil; and if He allows it, then He must not be good, or else not almighty—and therefore, perhaps He is not God, or simply does not exist.” To this, divine revelation gives us the following answers: Firstly, if man had not been created free, he would not be a person in the image of God (but rather a mechanism); Secondly, in giving man the possibility of sinning, God from before the ages took man’s sins upon Himself. For man’s sin, God offered an infinite sacrifice in love, giving His own Son for the redemption and salvation of mankind. Thirdly, having temporarily withheld immortality from man, God Himself accepted death, so that He might grant eternal life to man. Yet even in performing this supreme act of mercy, God preserves man’s freedom—to accept or not to accept this highest expression of divine love, to taste or not to taste the fruit of the new “Tree of Life,” to which God once again gives man access. For man, this Tree of Life which has been restored is the Cross of the Lord—the Tree of sacrificial love.’
`St. Alexander Okropiridze, Orthodox Catechism (blessed for re-print by Patriarch Ilia II in 2011), pgs. 27-28` (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/04/2025 11:27
@Мико⚜🐾 @serpente482 in a biblical sense would it be hypocritical to move to a white-only enclave and why?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 @serpente482 in a biblical sense would it be hypocritical to move to a white-only enclave and why?
Мико⚜🐾 08/04/2025 11:40
It wouldn't be
Мико⚜🐾
It wouldn't be
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/04/2025 11:41
How so?
NasCar 08/04/2025 16:56
dumb theological question
16:57
is ragebaiting a sin
16:57
found a funny video about it but idk if the guy's just bullshitting
NasCar
is ragebaiting a sin
Brøther Særaphim 08/04/2025 17:04
yes
17:04
how can a man find funny or virtuous in any way, provoking his brother to hanger?
17:04
it's very bad
NasCar 08/04/2025 17:06
it's over
NasCar
it's over
Brøther Særaphim 08/04/2025 17:06
it's not. repentance is open to all.
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NasCar 08/04/2025 17:06
no more ragebaiting euro...
NasCar
no more ragebaiting euro...
Brøther Særaphim 08/04/2025 17:06
i'm an euro
17:07
i was never ragebaited
17:07
jokes aside, avoid ragebaiting
17:07
it's very bad for your soul
Brøther Særaphim
i'm an euro
NasCar 08/04/2025 17:07
meant eurocyon
17:07
the famous canadian gay islamist who wants to be in the french military
NasCar
meant eurocyon
Brøther Særaphim 08/04/2025 17:07
i have no idea of what that is
Brøther Særaphim
i have no idea of what that is
NasCar 08/04/2025 17:07
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Brøther Særaphim 08/04/2025 17:08
i do not want to know, thank you in advance
Brøther Særaphim
i have no idea of what that is
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/04/2025 17:08
A Muslim faggot LARPer that was in this server before
NasCar 08/04/2025 17:08
fair
17:09
I should make a chive with euro funny moments
Extra-sensory PURRception
A Muslim faggot LARPer that was in this server before
Brøther Særaphim 08/04/2025 17:09
let's pray for him
NasCar
the famous canadian gay islamist who wants to be in the french military
NasCar 08/04/2025 17:10
yeah forgot to add he larps as a spaniard
17:10
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/04/2025 17:16
NasCar
found a funny video about it but idk if the guy's just bullshitting
Мико⚜🐾 08/04/2025 17:35
Yes, ragebaiting can very much be sinful
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
How so?
Мико⚜🐾 08/04/2025 17:36
What would be the biblical objections against it exactly (edited)
17:36
I don't think its necessarily the wisest thing to do, because I see it as further secession of territory to your enemies, those who hate you (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/05/2025 15:23
visiting my grandma for the first time in a few years, this was in her kitchen :3
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/05/2025 15:46
Kino
Мико⚜🐾 08/05/2025 16:37
she and my father are Catholic, i discovered recently (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
she and my father are Catholic, i discovered recently (edited)
serpente482 08/05/2025 23:13
Your father?
serpente482
Your father?
Мико⚜🐾 08/05/2025 23:59
Well, yeah, my dad
00:00
He didn't run off somewhere with the milk y'know. I think I’ve said this before, it was my mother who cut him off (edited)
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Him and my grandma (his mum) have always maintained their relationship
serpente482 08/06/2025 00:01
Doesnt he has multiple children of multiple women?
Мико⚜🐾 08/06/2025 01:26
serpente482
Doesnt he has multiple children of multiple women?
Мико⚜🐾 08/06/2025 13:49
Thats true, yeah, but I was his favourite son
13:50
At least that's what both my nan and my own mother said
Deleted User 08/06/2025 13:51
My story is almost familiar
Мико⚜🐾 08/06/2025 13:51
Even though I havent been talking to grandma in a while, shes always generally liked me the most out of her grandkids too
Deleted User 08/06/2025 13:51
My dad had 3 wives and the last one was with my mom, but he passed away with cancer
Мико⚜🐾 08/06/2025 13:51
i could tell that she was quite impressed that I was Christian
13:51
read Augustine, was doing well for myself etc.
Deleted User
My dad had 3 wives and the last one was with my mom, but he passed away with cancer
Мико⚜🐾 08/06/2025 13:51
I see
Deleted User 08/06/2025 13:52
Im the only orthodox at my house now
Мико⚜🐾
At least that's what both my nan and my own mother said
Мико⚜🐾 08/06/2025 13:52
He wanted to marry my mum, but she said no
Мико⚜🐾
Thats true, yeah, but I was his favourite son
serpente482 08/06/2025 14:22
Oh
Мико⚜🐾
she and my father are Catholic, i discovered recently (edited)
Deleted User 08/06/2025 16:01
Eastern?
Deleted User
Eastern?
Мико⚜🐾 08/06/2025 16:03
Nah, just regular Catholics
Deleted User 08/06/2025 16:04
RC?
Arcane BOT 08/06/2025 16:04
@Deleted User has reached level 2. GG!
Мико⚜🐾 08/06/2025 16:05
yea
Deleted User 08/06/2025 16:08
My dad as a RC
16:08
He never had mosaic or painted icons
16:08
But 3D
16:08
Statues
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/06/2025 17:23
Romans 1:22-25
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Romans 1:22-25 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<22> Claiming to be wise, they became fools, <23> and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man or birds or animals or reptiles. <24> Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, <25> because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever! Amen.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/06/2025 17:23
This passage feels more and more relevant by the day.
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Deleted User 08/06/2025 17:33
@Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian same thing I told people to not support Israel
17:33
They did and now they all on Eipstein list
17:33
And I'm trying to reach in contact with Sam Hyde now
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/06/2025 20:05
https://vxtwitter.com/ResurrectFilm/status/1952837599065981173
The Resurrection of The Christ (@ResurrectFilm)
THE RESURRECTION OF THE CHRIST Parts One and Two - coming to theaters Spring 2027. PART ONE Good Friday - March 26, 2027 PART TWO Ascension Day - May 6, 2027 https://t.co/HphYQFl7ox
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20:05
MEL GIBSON THE GOAT
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20:05
Right on fucking cue.
Zoraxe 08/07/2025 06:55
Pray for him, and pray that he does not give in to poor online opinions either
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Zoraxe
Pray for him, and pray that he does not give in to poor online opinions either
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 12:40
I remember this chap from Avericord
12:40
is he still on Discord, and would he want to come here perhaps or no?
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 12:49
https://youtu.be/t4OWIpfUYvM
Библиотека церковного хора
И. Балакирев Милость мира
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 13:00
https://youtu.be/ONhOO90S0zo
Patristic Nectar
Your Thoughts Are Shaping You
Zoraxe
Pray for him, and pray that he does not give in to poor online opinions either
vertandus 08/07/2025 15:01
the other two messages are nasty
15:01
they hate nuance when it comes to the other side
15:02
unquestioning modernists man
15:02
i have yet to unlearn them
15:02
i'm so rationalistic
Zoraxe
Pray for him, and pray that he does not give in to poor online opinions either
Brøther Særaphim 08/07/2025 15:33
what is his name
15:34
this is very sad
15:34
man...
Мико⚜🐾
is he still on Discord, and would he want to come here perhaps or no?
Zoraxe 08/07/2025 16:27
He is technically, but appears he's off for a moment. I sent him a longer message on here, but a note on his account said he'd be unavailable since July 8th
Zoraxe
He is technically, but appears he's off for a moment. I sent him a longer message on here, but a note on his account said he'd be unavailable since July 8th
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 16:33
Ohh, I see
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 17:40
@Мико⚜🐾 @serpente482 Where in scripture does it say that we can pray to the saints?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 @serpente482 Where in scripture does it say that we can pray to the saints?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 17:41
Nowhere
17:41
Let the protestants cope
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17:41
However there might be some scriptures that may explain veneration
17:42
The word is veneration, if you use pray the prot slop will use it as an excuse
17:43
1 Corinthians 4:16
BibleBot BOT 08/07/2025 17:43
1 Corinthians 4:16 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<16> I urge you, then, be imitators of me.
Deleted User 08/07/2025 17:43
Hebrews 13:7
BibleBot BOT 08/07/2025 17:43
Hebrews 13:7 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<7> Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God; consider the outcome of their life, and imitate their faith.
Deleted User 08/07/2025 17:43
Revelation 5:8
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Revelation 5:8 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<8> And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;
Arcane BOT 08/07/2025 17:43
@Deleted User has reached level 8. GG!
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 @serpente482 Where in scripture does it say that we can pray to the saints?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 17:44
This one specially will answer your question
17:44
Revelation 8:3
BibleBot BOT 08/07/2025 17:44
Revelation 8:3 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<3> And another angel came and stood at the altar with a golden censer; and he was given much incense to mingle with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar before the throne;
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 17:45
1 Timothy 2:5
BibleBot BOT 08/07/2025 17:45
1 Timothy 2:5 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<5> For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 17:46
So there is one mediator with God for men, whom is Jesus Christ. Amen.
Deleted User 08/07/2025 17:46
Let them know
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
So there is one mediator with God for men, whom is Jesus Christ. Amen.
Deleted User 08/07/2025 17:48
Also the martyrdom of St. Polycarp clearly speaks about veneration of the saints
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 17:48
Yeah.
17:49
See I recognise veneration. Lord only knows how much I find Saint Paul admirable. But what I'm not getting is if we both agree that there is one mediator and that praying to the saints is not biblical, why is the "Hail Mary" prayed at Catholic mass?
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VikingTiger6 08/07/2025 17:50
So the saints praying to God in heaven means we should pray to statues and images in hope they will pray to God for us when Jesus christ has made God accessible to every man
VikingTiger6
So the saints praying to God in heaven means we should pray to statues and images in hope they will pray to God for us when Jesus christ has made God accessible to every man
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 17:50
This is the point I am getting at.
17:51
If praying to saints isn't biblical, why then pray to saints?
VikingTiger6 08/07/2025 17:51
Its because the romans brought their pagan practise into the church
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VikingTiger6
Its because the romans brought their pagan practise into the church
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 17:51
Bloody pagans
Deleted User 08/07/2025 17:52
Does eastern catholics believe in that too?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 17:52
My prayers are always towards Christ and at times, towards the Father. But they are still one in the same, so my prayers go directly to God. I can pray on behalf of the saints, but the prayer is always to God.
VikingTiger6 08/07/2025 17:53
Praying "saint Anthony please find my car keys" is not the same as asking another person to pray for you
VikingTiger6
Praying "saint Anthony please find my car keys" is not the same as asking another person to pray for you
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 17:53
>he doesn't just leave his car keys in the same place so he doesn't lose them Pathetic.
ungen 08/07/2025 17:54
I pray to God. Simple as.
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VikingTiger6 08/07/2025 17:55
17:55
Saul's crime was basically praying to Samuel
17:56
After he had died
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 @serpente482 Where in scripture does it say that we can pray to the saints?
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 17:56
Explicitly? No, there isn't this statement where it says “Thou shalt pray to the saints”. However you can find instances wherein the high priest will ask for Jeremiah’s intercession in thr Deuterocanon, like in 2 Maccabees 15, Tobit being told by Raphael that he interceded for him before God’s throne. Scripture is quite clear in that those in Paradise at this current moment are aware of the goings on in Earth and are deified by God’s grace. It is in early Church tradition furthermore, there are plenty records of veneration of reliquaries, intercessionary prayer, request of prayer on our behalf from the martyrs prior to the Council of Nicaea and the so-called Constantinian shift. Not to mention that all of the defenders of Nicene Orthodoxy, Trinitarianism, & the greatest figures of all time in 1st millennium Christianity believed in invocation and intercession of the saints too (the Cappadocians, Saint Augustine etc.)
17:58
I want to say as well that this whole notion of “if its not in the Bible therefore it cannot be true” is unsustainable, everybody reads scripture through a lens, & in the spirit of a tradition.. I just choose to follow the tradition which can be traced back to the earliest starting point is all (edited)
VikingTiger6 08/07/2025 17:58
Look what lactantius says
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 17:59
Lactantius is wrong
17:59
nor is he a saint. so he is not an authority on this matter, even if I were to presume he is not condemning Pagan practice here (edited)
17:59
God is not God of the dead
17:59
but of the living
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 17:59
There is a reason he is the "living God"
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 17:59
As Christ says in Mark 12:27 when He corrects someone on a similar matter (edited)
BibleBot BOT 08/07/2025 17:59
Mark 12:27 - King James Version (KJV)
<27> He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:00
The New Testament is quite clear that those in Heaven are not in some soul sleep or ignorant of the events which occur on Earth
18:00
Revelation 5, 6, 8.. (edited)
18:00
What about when Christ says that there is great joy in the presence of angels when the lost sheep turns back to Him?
18:01
Was Paul speaking emptily when he spoke of the cloud of witnesses that cheer us on in Hebrews 11 and 12?
Мико⚜🐾
I want to say as well that this whole notion of “if its not in the Bible therefore it cannot be true” is unsustainable, everybody reads scripture through a lens, & in the spirit of a tradition.. I just choose to follow the tradition which can be traced back to the earliest starting point is all (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 18:01
Tradition is good, no denying that. But scripture is absolute. We know it is the word of God breathed out by man. Traditions can weave and change over the course of history. Not saying all the traditions of Catholicism/Orthodoxy are wrong but it's putting a lot of faith in something outside of scripture. From my perspective, it is a safer bet to adhere to the absoluteness of scripture. If it ain't in scripture? I ain't doin' it.
Мико⚜🐾
Explicitly? No, there isn't this statement where it says “Thou shalt pray to the saints”. However you can find instances wherein the high priest will ask for Jeremiah’s intercession in thr Deuterocanon, like in 2 Maccabees 15, Tobit being told by Raphael that he interceded for him before God’s throne. Scripture is quite clear in that those in Paradise at this current moment are aware of the goings on in Earth and are deified by God’s grace. It is in early Church tradition furthermore, there are plenty records of veneration of reliquaries, intercessionary prayer, request of prayer on our behalf from the martyrs prior to the Council of Nicaea and the so-called Constantinian shift. Not to mention that all of the defenders of Nicene Orthodoxy, Trinitarianism, & the greatest figures of all time in 1st millennium Christianity believed in invocation and intercession of the saints too (the Cappadocians, Saint Augustine etc.)
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:04
The reason why Orthodox and Catholics pray to the saints—and let's make this clear that prayer toward a saint is going to be a paying of due homage to a friend of Christ alongside a request that they pray on our behalf, because they are alive and not dead, merely separated from their body—is because not only because it is in our holy tradition which can be traced back to before Nicaea, the theology of whom we follow accomodates for or logically leads to it.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Tradition is good, no denying that. But scripture is absolute. We know it is the word of God breathed out by man. Traditions can weave and change over the course of history. Not saying all the traditions of Catholicism/Orthodoxy are wrong but it's putting a lot of faith in something outside of scripture. From my perspective, it is a safer bet to adhere to the absoluteness of scripture. If it ain't in scripture? I ain't doin' it.
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:05
Then you ought to abandon a lot of things that “aren’t in scripture”
18:06
Once again, if you make it a thing of, it’s not in scripture explicitly therefore I’m not doing it
18:06
it is a foundation built on sand and not on rock
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 18:06
The teachings of Christ are the rock.
18:06
And Christ too is the rock.
Мико⚜🐾
The reason why Orthodox and Catholics pray to the saints—and let's make this clear that prayer toward a saint is going to be a paying of due homage to a friend of Christ alongside a request that they pray on our behalf, because they are alive and not dead, merely separated from their body—is because not only because it is in our holy tradition which can be traced back to before Nicaea, the theology of whom we follow accomodates for or logically leads to it.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 18:07
But why not pray directly to Christ on behalf of the saint? There is one mediator, whom is Christ.
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:07
Because the prayer of a righteous man availeth more than a sinner’s
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
But why not pray directly to Christ on behalf of the saint? There is one mediator, whom is Christ.
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:08
If you can pray directly to Christ, why have you asked me to pray for you in the past? (edited)
18:08
If there is 1 mediator, as you say
18:09
Yes, you do it in a casual manner
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 18:09
You are praying to Christ on the behalf of others. You're not praying to me, so that I can pray to Christ for you.
18:09
That's the key distinction is the prayer is to Christ, but that you pray on behalf of those who need/request it.
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:10
Yeah, but me being like “Divine Augustine, who cut down the heresy of the Pelagians and refuted the babble of the Manicheans, pray to Christ God for us”
18:10
that is nothing more than a fancier, and more reverent way (and that reverence is due on account of their holiness) of asking someone, like a friend, to pray for me (edited)
VikingTiger6 08/07/2025 18:11
So if the saints can hear our prayers does that make them all knowing or all seeing?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 18:12
But again I'd ask, at that point why not just pray to Christ?
VikingTiger6
So if the saints can hear our prayers does that make them all knowing or all seeing?
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:12
They have a relative omnipotence and omniscence, because they partake in the divine nature, as Peter says in his Catholic Epistle (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 18:12
I can get on board with 99% of Catholicism and Orthodoxy but praying to the saints I don't get.
18:14
Christ is absolute and is Lord of lords. His love so boundless that He'll hear us sinners. If we can communicate with Him, then we don't need to communicate with anyone else in prayer.
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:15
Once again, this is forgetting what James says about the prayer of a righteous man for one
18:15
About what Christ says when several people are gathered or united in His name
18:15
And makes us beg the question: why ask anyone to pray for you when you can just do it yourself
Мико⚜🐾
And makes us beg the question: why ask anyone to pray for you when you can just do it yourself
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 18:17
Fair point honestly.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Tradition is good, no denying that. But scripture is absolute. We know it is the word of God breathed out by man. Traditions can weave and change over the course of history. Not saying all the traditions of Catholicism/Orthodoxy are wrong but it's putting a lot of faith in something outside of scripture. From my perspective, it is a safer bet to adhere to the absoluteness of scripture. If it ain't in scripture? I ain't doin' it.
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:18
Yes, but this notion of if its not in scripture im not doing it, that is a tradition in and of itself. And a one more recent than & at odds with the tradition I am appealing to (edited)
18:18
You can't escape reading scripture through the lens of a tradition, which one is the correct one, whether that tradition is infallible or fallible, that's going to be another question (edited)
Deleted User 08/07/2025 18:19
I wished
18:19
All orthodox traditions
18:19
Came into one
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:20
No, that's bad
Deleted User 08/07/2025 18:20
No like
18:20
Without worrying about small things
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:20
I don't want a globohomo tradition
18:20
Its good that we have different cultural expressions in the Church
Deleted User 08/07/2025 18:20
Like how we venerate the saints or how we should do...
Deleted User
Without worrying about small things
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:20
Ahh, I see what you mena there
Deleted User
Like how we venerate the saints or how we should do...
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:20
We already agree on that, although there are slightly different festivities (edited)
Deleted User 08/07/2025 18:20
Everyone has their own culture
18:21
In the East its very debatable and controversial
18:21
In the OCA however
18:21
Its a bit chill than the East
18:21
Because America
18:21
Duh
18:23
But what im expecting the most and it has been centuries
18:24
Is that the RC joins the EO (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Fair point honestly.
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:24
The whole point of us asking the saints to pray for us before God is because, not only is it one more person who is united in His name inquiring about something before God or requesting it—they are more likely to have their prayers heard because the one making the request is certainly glorified in Heaven, amongst the angels
Deleted User 08/07/2025 18:24
At least so they can reject the filioque and a couple of things
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:24
I'm unsure it will happen
18:24
but ofc i dont pray against it
18:25
thats wicked
Deleted User 08/07/2025 18:25
If the american pope does some shit that will lead to EO
18:25
That would be a W bishop
18:25
But who knows if the next one is an african one that does it
VikingTiger6 08/07/2025 18:26
Don't some of the orthodox churches have different books?
VikingTiger6
Don't some of the orthodox churches have different books?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 18:26
Ywah
18:26
Yeah*
VikingTiger6 08/07/2025 18:26
I remember hearing one of them has 2nd maccabees while others dont
Deleted User 08/07/2025 18:26
Like my friend prefers his bulgarian prayer book which I forgot the sts name
18:26
I think it was St Paisios prayer book
18:26
I got St Tikhon's one
VikingTiger6
I remember hearing one of them has 2nd maccabees while others dont
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:26
Youre referring to 3rd Maccabees, and that is a difference between the RCs and the EOs
Deleted User 08/07/2025 18:27
Nvm
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:27
its not really a big deal anyway, because for us, a book not being canonical is not going to signify a certain denial of divine inspiration
18:27
nor infallibility
Deleted User 08/07/2025 18:27
I find intriguing because
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:28
we believe that certain letters, books, documents, are divinely inspired, or infallible on matters of faith and morals
Deleted User 08/07/2025 18:28
Theres no 3rd and 4th kings
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:28
but they are not scripture obviously
Deleted User 08/07/2025 18:28
On modern bibles
Deleted User
Theres no 3rd and 4th kings
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 18:28
3rd and 4th kings is just 1st and 2nd kings in modern bibles
18:28
1st and 2nd Samuel is what they call 1st and 2nd kings (edited)
Deleted User 08/07/2025 18:29
Oh ye
VikingTiger6
So the saints praying to God in heaven means we should pray to statues and images in hope they will pray to God for us when Jesus christ has made God accessible to every man
serpente482 08/07/2025 18:38
How can you believe in the Bible if you dont believe in the Church? You read it and came up with that interpretation and i read it and came up with another. Who is correct? How can God send us a message we cant truly understand because the use of language sometimes can be used to manipulate its meaning. How can you believe YOUR INTERPRETATION is what God commanded?
18:39
How do you know you arent wrong
18:40
If you believe the Bible is enough to understand the Word and that the differences arent important and the main message is clear
18:40
Then that opens the door to ignore everything that causes doubts
18:41
Because no interpretation is better than another. If the meaning isnt clear then it isnt important
18:44
If you believe ONLY your personnal interpretation is correct then you must have something to argue why God has only allowed a bunch of hillbillies 1600(at least) years after Jesus death to find the true meaning and hasnt given any tool to share the truth with the world
18:45
What do protestants have to explain the Truth other than language tricks
serpente482
How can you believe in the Bible if you dont believe in the Church? You read it and came up with that interpretation and i read it and came up with another. Who is correct? How can God send us a message we cant truly understand because the use of language sometimes can be used to manipulate its meaning. How can you believe YOUR INTERPRETATION is what God commanded?
VikingTiger6 08/07/2025 18:54
I don't think we should discredit the church, we should just put the bible above the church and understand the church through what the Bible teaches, God's word made the church surely do it should be the utmost authority
VikingTiger6
I don't think we should discredit the church, we should just put the bible above the church and understand the church through what the Bible teaches, God's word made the church surely do it should be the utmost authority
serpente482 08/07/2025 18:55
Then what Church? that doesnt explain why there are different interpretations (edited)
18:56
What makes you think you are right in your church
serpente482
Then what Church? that doesnt explain why there are different interpretations (edited)
VikingTiger6 08/07/2025 19:00
The church is all those who believe in Jesus christ, thats the universal church
serpente482
What makes you think you are right in your church
VikingTiger6 08/07/2025 19:00
I'm a man, I'm not gonna be 100% right, if my salvation relied on being right about everything, nobody could be saved, thats why I believe in Jesus christ
VikingTiger6
The church is all those who believe in Jesus christ, thats the universal church
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:07
Even Mormons?
serpente482
Even Mormons?
GR 08/07/2025 19:08
they deny the Trinity so no
GR
they deny the Trinity so no
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:09
Where in the Bible does it mention the Trinity is needed to believe in Jesus
19:09
Some primitive christians didnt believe in the Trinity
19:10
Even those who knew Jesus
GR 08/07/2025 19:10
their denial of the Trinity is also their denial that Jesus is God (edited)
GR
their denial of the Trinity is also their denial that Jesus is God (edited)
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:12
No there were people who believed in the Father and the Son and not in the Holy Spirit
GR 08/07/2025 19:13
which is nonsense
GR
which is nonsense
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:13
According to who
19:13
Where in the Gospel does Jesus mention the Trinity directly and says its needed for salvation
serpente482
How can you believe in the Bible if you dont believe in the Church? You read it and came up with that interpretation and i read it and came up with another. Who is correct? How can God send us a message we cant truly understand because the use of language sometimes can be used to manipulate its meaning. How can you believe YOUR INTERPRETATION is what God commanded?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:14
Thats so true
GR 08/07/2025 19:14
who is not believing in the Holy Spirit nonsense to?
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:14
If you question one thing the Church established then you can question everything
GR 08/07/2025 19:14
Christians
GR
Christians
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:14
Even the primitive ones?
19:14
People following Jesus
serpente482
Where in the Gospel does Jesus mention the Trinity directly and says its needed for salvation
GR 08/07/2025 19:14
denial of the Holy Spirit is literally the unforgiveable sin
GR
denial of the Holy Spirit is literally the unforgiveable sin
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:15
Where does it say it
19:15
Denial of God is
serpente482
If you question one thing the Church established then you can question everything
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:15
19:15
That was heartbreaking dude
serpente482
Where does it say it
GR 08/07/2025 19:15
Matthew 12:31
BibleBot BOT 08/07/2025 19:15
Matthew 12:31 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<31> Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:15
Bro said "do you believe in the church fathers"?
19:16
As if they are discriminatory in the bible
19:16
Like what
19:16
If it wasnt for the church we wouldnt have the bible out there
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serpente482
Denial of God is
GR 08/07/2025 19:16
which essentially is denial of the Spirit
GR
which essentially is denial of the Spirit
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:17
So primitive christians are in Hell?
serpente482
So primitive christians are in Hell?
GR 08/07/2025 19:18
am I the judge? what do I know
GR
am I the judge? what do I know
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:18
You said mormons arent christian
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 19:18
I've got another question but a discussion is already raging so I'll come back later.
GR 08/07/2025 19:18
which is a fact
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:18
Its more easy for a catholic to go to heaven, and ofc they should stop worrying about "purgatory" but even if they do so, I think they will be fine since that wont exist in reality... They should know that God is merciful and loves them...
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BUT EVEN A CATHOLIC will easily go to heaven than most protestants heresies
GR 08/07/2025 19:19
primative Christians are a different argument when compared to mormons
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:19
Catholics are too hard on themselves
Deleted User
Its more easy for a catholic to go to heaven, and ofc they should stop worrying about "purgatory" but even if they do so, I think they will be fine since that wont exist in reality... They should know that God is merciful and loves them...
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:19
Purgatory is in the Bible, and orthodoxs also believe in their own version
serpente482
Purgatory is in the Bible, and orthodoxs also believe in their own version
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:19
I thought they only believed in heaven and hell
Deleted User
I thought they only believed in heaven and hell
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:19
No
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:20
But I dont think the purgatory is the same as catholics
GR 08/07/2025 19:20
does the idea of purgatory not take away from the meaning of Christ's sacrifice?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:20
I would interpret as more in this Earth is our purgatory
Deleted User
But I dont think the purgatory is the same as catholics
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:20
Your purgatory has no fire and is only escapable through prayers of the living
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serpente482
Your purgatory has no fire and is only escapable through prayers of the living
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:21
I like that
GR
does the idea of purgatory not take away from the meaning of Christ's sacrifice?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:21
And God's grace too
19:21
Thats my question
GR
does the idea of purgatory not take away from the meaning of Christ's sacrifice?
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:21
1 Corinthians 3:10-15
BibleBot BOT 08/07/2025 19:21
1 Corinthians 3:10-15 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<10> According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid a foundation, and another man is building upon it. Let each man take care how he builds upon it. <11> For no other foundation can any one lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. <12> Now if any one builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— <13> each man's work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. <14> If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. <15> If any man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:22
Purgatory means you are saved
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But you must purge the sins you didnt purge in this world
serpente482
But you must purge the sins you didnt purge in this world
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:22
But that would have to go through the process of dying right?
Deleted User
I like that
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:23
Catholicism has that but also through your purge there
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:23
I mean repentance is part of it
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:23
What if you didnt know you were sinning?
GR
primative Christians are a different argument when compared to mormons
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:23
Why
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:23
19:24
@Deleted User we dont deny that there is purgation after death
serpente482
What if you didnt know you were sinning?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 19:24
This is why you should always make sure you're praying for wisdom and for the Lord to reveal any unaddressed sins in your life. You cannot pray in fullness of spirit if you are still shackled by sin.
serpente482
Why
GR 08/07/2025 19:24
mormons are making an active choice in their denial, the primatives may not have had full access to the Word
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:24
what we reject were some of the common medieval ideas surrounding the doctrine, and probably only 2 or 3 actual ideas (edited)
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:24
Yes, but the purgatory like... Is it happening in our lifetime or after we leave Earth?
serpente482
1 Corinthians 3:10-15
GR 08/07/2025 19:24
to us this doesn't support purgatory, in our view the fire is God's judgement on our works
GR
to us this doesn't support purgatory, in our view the fire is God's judgement on our works
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:25
Who says so
Мико⚜🐾
what we reject were some of the common medieval ideas surrounding the doctrine, and probably only 2 or 3 actual ideas (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:25
those being that the fire itself cleanses sin
Deleted User
Yes, but the purgatory like... Is it happening in our lifetime or after we leave Earth?
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:25
After
serpente482
Who says so
GR 08/07/2025 19:25
the same thing that makes you think it's purgatory I guess
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:25
and something specific in regards to the Pope
19:25
that i have forgotten about
GR
the same thing that makes you think it's purgatory I guess
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:25
Traditon and the Church makes me believe that
19:26
We have come back to the beginning
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:26
Oh, because I thought after we die, we go in this theory that the church has made which is you go through a stair where there will be a spiritual battle for your soul
19:26
Through a 40 day process
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:26
What is the foundation of your interpretation
19:26
Other than man
Deleted User
Through a 40 day process
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:26
Can dead people count days?
Deleted User
Oh, because I thought after we die, we go in this theory that the church has made which is you go through a stair where there will be a spiritual battle for your soul
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:26
Well idk if exactly if the church made it but its what ive heard a lot
serpente482
Can dead people count days?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:27
Well on Earth
19:27
In after life theres no time its infinite
Мико⚜🐾
Click to see original message
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:27
People undergo purgation because they failed to make enough use of the infinite merit Christ accredited to all men when He died on the cross. Through the intercession of the faithful, they are saved (edited)
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:27
Its this huge question I've got regarding the after life
serpente482
Other than man
GR 08/07/2025 19:27
I thought the foundation of your interpretation was from man
GR
I thought the foundation of your interpretation was from man
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:28
The Church is no man
19:28
Its the Bride of Christ
19:28
And speaks with one voice
GR 08/07/2025 19:28
the pope I was referring to
GR
the pope I was referring to
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:28
The Pope speaks for the Church
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:28
But so then, what does the purgatory, heaven and hell mean in the orthodox lenses? Because thats something I wanted to know about
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:28
When he speaks ex cathedra
Deleted User
Through a 40 day process
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:29
We pray especially for 40 days, but no, it is not a 40 day process
19:29
the afterlife has no certain clock in place (edited)
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:30
Hm
19:32
But yes, I would like to understand how after life works in the orthodox lense (edited)
19:33
Because I've found many interpretations through different churches since I used to be RC it was basically we dont go straight to heaven exactly and we would have to first go through purgatory
19:33
And theres heaven and hell
19:33
But in the orthodox lenses... How does that work?
19:33
@serpente482 @Мико⚜🐾
Deleted User
Because I've found many interpretations through different churches since I used to be RC it was basically we dont go straight to heaven exactly and we would have to first go through purgatory
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:33
Why you changed Church?
Deleted User
But yes, I would like to understand how after life works in the orthodox lense (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:34
we can talk about it later on
Мико⚜🐾
we can talk about it later on
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:34
Sure
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:34
and then i can give you recommended reading
Мико⚜🐾
and then i can give you recommended reading
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:34
I would like that
serpente482
Why you changed Church?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:34
Simple, I mean you got the traditional catholics and you got the modern ones
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:34
but yeah, i will say as a heads up that we disagree with RCs on a lot less about the afterlife than assumed
19:35
at least on the topic of purgation
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:35
Unfortunately most traditional ones corrupted into modern catholicism
19:35
And also the pope
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:35
because toll houses were always an Eastern teaching (edited)
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:35
Pope Francis
19:35
To be exact
Deleted User
Simple, I mean you got the traditional catholics and you got the modern ones
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:35
Thats the same in the orthodox church
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:35
Mhmm
Deleted User
Pope Francis
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:35
What did he say that you didnt like?
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:35
The Orthodox Church has many modernists
19:35
I argue against them on the daily
serpente482
What did he say that you didnt like?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:35
I mean that one thing he said about "all religions bring to Christ"
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:36
The "Orthodox Christian boyfriend" from that meme
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:36
And few questionable stuff
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:36
im Orthodox because i think Orthodoxy is more correct theologically
Deleted User
I mean that one thing he said about "all religions bring to Christ"
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:36
All religions are a path to God
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:36
Not because its free from modernity
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:36
Isnt that true?
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:36
that is true
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:36
Ehhhhh....
19:36
I mean does Islam and Judaism bring to God?
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:36
Isnt the human condition of looking for divinity searching for God?
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:36
natural theology while not bringing us completely to God
19:36
gets us some of the way
Deleted User
I mean does Islam and Judaism bring to God?
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:36
He said all are a path to God but only catholicism was the correct one
19:37
He was preaching in a multireligious country
Deleted User
I mean does Islam and Judaism bring to God?
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:37
I disagree w/ Catholic soteriology but no, thats not their position
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:37
You dont go to another place and say all they believe in is false
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:37
If Muslims and Jews are condescended to, its not because there is saving grace in their religion per se
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:37
I mean if you want a video about it brought by Kyle, he said some things that actually... Makes sense and that ive seen happening in my church
19:37
Or my old one
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:38
A true muslim and a jew are closer to God than an atheist
serpente482
A true muslim and a jew are closer to God than an atheist
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 19:38
mhmm, this is just basic intuition
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:38
I think EO is accurate than RC imo
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:38
The Jew and the Muslim dont deny God
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:38
Not disregarding however
Deleted User
I think EO is accurate than RC imo
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:38
Why?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:39
I mean shoot... Both churches had some disagreements but I found that the EO's dogma made more sense than the RC
Deleted User
I mean shoot... Both churches had some disagreements but I found that the EO's dogma made more sense than the RC
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:40
Did you? You didnt know about your purgatory
19:40
And you didnt know about what Pope Francis actually said
19:40
What made you change the faith of your ancestors
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:41
I mean, I've been a catholic for years
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:41
But what made you stop
19:41
Was it Truth?
19:42
Or Lies with a truth coat
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:42
Why you dogging so much on RC though I don't understand
19:43
Like defending with all open arms
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:43
Because i am catholic
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:43
Eastern or RC?
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:43
Roman Catholic
Deleted User
I mean, I've been a catholic for years
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/07/2025 19:43
What's your denom my ninja (edited)
19:43
Not demon
19:43
Denom
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:43
And i want to hear to anyone who thought it was false
Deleted User 08/07/2025 19:44
well
19:44
We can discuss it soon imma brb
19:44
Gotta drive
19:45
But sure, we could have a convo about this I would like to
Deleted User
But sure, we could have a convo about this I would like to
serpente482 08/07/2025 19:45
Then reply when you can please
serpente482
Then reply when you can please
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:19
Well alright man
21:19
Came back
21:19
So few things really...
21:19
Filioque... The debate about distinct energies... The rational vs mystical existence of Christ... Hyperveneration of Mary
21:20
The conflicts between the nicenian creed
21:20
And Papacy fallacy
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
What's your denom my ninja (edited)
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:20
Now EO
Deleted User
Filioque... The debate about distinct energies... The rational vs mystical existence of Christ... Hyperveneration of Mary
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:22
Oh and not only hyperveneration but also... Mary's emmaculate preconception
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Which honestly it can be controversial, but however I must be clear that shes sinless
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And both EO and the catholic church agrees on this
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But overall... I'm no longer catholic but if you want me to go in depth of why I left the catholic church
serpente482
All religions are a path to God
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:25
As I've mentioned... Is not only that reason I left the RC
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But as you can claim "Yeah but even EO has miscommunications and flaws too" you wouldn't be too wrong neither
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But one is going through an authority of a pope but to us, he's recognized as our bishop. But in depth, we don't rely on popes but the church, but you may ask "Who runs the church"? Its no other than Jesus Christ
Deleted User
Filioque... The debate about distinct energies... The rational vs mystical existence of Christ... Hyperveneration of Mary
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:29
What about them
serpente482
What about them
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:29
Its things that unfortunately both RC and EO debates
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A lot
Deleted User
But one is going through an authority of a pope but to us, he's recognized as our bishop. But in depth, we don't rely on popes but the church, but you may ask "Who runs the church"? Its no other than Jesus Christ
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:29
Jesus Christ through the Pope
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Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:30
Pope over tradition?
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:30
No
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But who has the authority to say if Pokemon is satanic or not
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The Pope is there to take decisions
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:31
If he says pokemon is demonic
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:31
Doesnt matter how the Pope is as a human
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:31
Will u go through it?
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Will u believe if he says that?
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:31
Yes
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But he doesnt say it
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:32
He can
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Since hes your god
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To me hes just a bishop
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Like any other
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:32
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Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:33
Remind you that also the EO and RC are sister churches
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Since hes your god
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:33
Thats just pure ignorance right there
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Take it back
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:33
What if I don't want to?
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Did the truth hurt?
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:34
Then that will mean what you said is false and that the only reason you left the Catholic Church is because you were lied
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If you believe in lies
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Christ didnt bring you to the Orthodox Church
serpente482
Christ didnt bring you to the Orthodox Church
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:34
Projection eh?
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:34
The Devil made you leave the Catholic Church
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Deleted User
Projection eh?
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:35
No its just pure ignorance
serpente482
No its just pure ignorance
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:35
Projecting
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:35
Now you are getting angry and acting like a toddler
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Not cool man
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:35
Nah
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I think its sad that you disregard the church over authority of a papacy
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And papacy has been fallible
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:36
I think its sad you disregard the Church because the internet
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Deleted User
And papacy has been fallible
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:36
Where
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:36
Sad that you might think this way
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:36
Idk why are you acting like this
serpente482
Where
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:36
Have you paid attention on vatican II?
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Lately?
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:36
Have you?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:36
Yeah
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:37
You didnt even know about what Pope Francis said and dont know what your Church really believes
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You said we consider the Pope our god
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I think you are speaking with an ill tongue and i please ask you to reconsider
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:39
Dude, call the EO demonic because of your blatant ignorance just because of few disagreements and look... All I'm really just telling you is, that in to regard that papacy will not fail is very sad because if I'm correct the pope should live a holy life correct?... Well, what happened during the papacy in medieval times? And the huge scandals it used to have?
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:39
???
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:39
But the most important one
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Dude, call the EO demonic because of your blatant ignorance just because of few disagreements and look... All I'm really just telling you is, that in to regard that papacy will not fail is very sad because if I'm correct the pope should live a holy life correct?... Well, what happened during the papacy in medieval times? And the huge scandals it used to have?
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:39
How is an action of an individual supposed to make the task of the Pope look bad
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:40
Why did they had to change the nicenian creed?
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So it goes precedes through the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit if in the bible clearly says... It preceds from the father then to the son and to the holy spirit
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:41
Game changing
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:42
But now, I'm not saying that this changes the trinity however, notice that both are in the name of the Father, and the Son and the Holy Spirit
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But again... The filioque is the elephant in the room
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pPnSWArkfgM&pp=ygUeb3J0aG9kb3ggY2h1cmNoIGFib3V0IGZpbGlvcXVl
Patristic Nectar
The Filioque Heresy (Global Catechism)
serpente482
Game changing
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:43
Im sorry my filioquian friend
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But until you realize the truth
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I can call you my brother in Christ
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But from now... This is not our situation and I wish it was
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So from now I cant call you that until you realize the pitholes and lies of papacy has gotten into you
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Come home brother
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:45
Home where
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Home is Rome and it always has been
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Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:46
The home where they killed your own kind?
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The home where they killed your own kind?
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:46
Constantinople?
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Or Moscow 100 years ago
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Or Ukraine rn
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:46
Doesn't matter... You can call the anti christ Nero, Napoleon, Stalin... Putin or Zelensky
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But sadly
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The story repeats itself
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We all had been prosecuted by the hands of people we entrusted a lot and yet the same people who will condemn us
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Read the story of St Tikhon
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Its a story of redemption
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:48
Idc about the orthodox church
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:48
Neither I care about catholic church
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Not anymore
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:48
Not true
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:48
The true catholic church is the EO
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:48
Because how many times have you mentioned it today?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:48
In fact
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Its in the creed
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The true catholic church is the EO
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:49
Inb4 80% of christians are wrong and they should have listened to the lack of effort to share the Word the Orthodox Church has done
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:49
I believe in one God, Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all ages; Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten, not created, of one essence with the Father through Whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary and became man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered and was buried; And He rose on the third day, according to the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father; And He will come again with glory to judge the living and dead. His kingdom shall have no end. And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Creator of life, Who proceeds from the Father, Who together with the Father and the Son is worshipped and glorified, Who spoke through the prophets. In one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the age to come. Amen.
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:50
I think you are just irrationally bitter for no reason
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I dont think anyone thinks the "Filoque is the elephant in the room"
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It was just used by bizantines to get away from Rome
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Same as Luther used faith alone
serpente482
I think you are just irrationally bitter for no reason
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:52
"Irrationaly bitter" look at you
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:52
Ive tried to be nice, im sorry if you got it the other way
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:52
Why do you sway from the OG church that later by roman catholics it miscommunicated?
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The RC were protestants before the protestants
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:53
Let me ask you something
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:53
But however, I think RC can be more tolerable than protestants
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Because we not too far even though...
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Just some things we disagree on
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We only need to embrace to believe in the truth
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:54
Why has the Orthodox Church not tried to expand
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The Orthodox Church is landlocked to the second world
serpente482
Inb4 80% of christians are wrong and they should have listened to the lack of effort to share the Word the Orthodox Church has done
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:54
The population of who has more members dont matter
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The church that has more members dont matter
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The population of who has more members dont matter
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:54
It does when you have the Truth
serpente482
It does when you have the Truth
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:54
"Truth"
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What truth?
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:55
Why is the Orthodox Church gatekeeping the Truth
Deleted User
What truth?
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:55
The one you are saying your church does
serpente482
Why is the Orthodox Church gatekeeping the Truth
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:55
The other way around
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:55
The other way around?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:55
Catholic*
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:55
Who doesnt know the Catholic Church
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Tell me
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Who
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In the whole world
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Doesnt know of it
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Who hasnt found out who is the new Pope
serpente482
Who hasnt found out who is the new Pope
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:56
Well not many people knows the pope
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:56
Why does God allow the Catholic Church to spread far and wide
Deleted User
Well not many people knows the pope
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:57
Bro it was all over the news, most countries, religious or not came to share its respects
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Is the Catholic Church the most influential and important institution on human history?
serpente482
Is the Catholic Church the most influential and important institution on human history?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:57
Orthodox*
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:58
Who made more for the world than the Catholics
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:58
There were hospitals
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Hospitals were first made by Christians
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Orthodox*
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:58
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Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:58
Is this your coping?
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Sometimes the truth only few people know
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Not a majority
Deleted User
Hospitals were first made by Christians
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:59
Yes, whom the Catholic Church has made the most
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Deleted User
Sometimes the truth only few people know
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:59
Why
Deleted User 08/07/2025 21:59
The same papacy who supported politicians, indulgences and crusades?
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Oh and lets not forget
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The battle of the ice
serpente482 08/07/2025 21:59
So are people saved only if they are born in Russia or the balcans?
Deleted User
The same papacy who supported politicians, indulgences and crusades?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:00
Indulgences have to do with the purgatory
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Its like what you do
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:00
St Alexander Nevsky
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Why did the catholics rebelled against the true church?
Deleted User
Why did the catholics rebelled against the true church?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:00
The one in Turkey?
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You can cope all you want
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:01
You are an Israel supporter
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Dont have to keep going
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Just tell me already
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:01
But the Pope has been the head of the Church since AT LEAST 500 years previous to your abandon
Deleted User
You are an Israel supporter
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:01
No?
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I think we should let this go
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:02
Yeah lets not ever speak religion in between us
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I dont want to cause this a fuss
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:02
I dont want you talking about the Catholic Church until you educate yourself
serpente482
I dont want you talking about the Catholic Church until you educate yourself
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:02
Oh if I am
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But also
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You dont ever put the orthodox church in your mouth never again neither
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Or mostly saying...
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The true CATHOLIC church
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:03
I didnt spoke about it
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Just about facts
Deleted User
The true CATHOLIC church
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:03
That is even smaller than baptist church
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:03
Idc about the protestants
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:03
I do
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:03
But you guys seem following the same pathway you do
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:03
They are christians
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They might disagree with some stuff
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:04
I mean
Arcane BOT 08/07/2025 22:04
@Deleted User has reached level 10. GG!
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:04
But its not their fault
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:04
You both support the filioque
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:04
And why dont you share us the Truth
serpente482
They are christians
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:04
"Christians" like catholics are gaslighting for not being a protestant too
serpente482
And why dont you share us the Truth
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:04
Simple
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You look for it
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:04
I look for it
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:04
You dknt
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Dont*
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:04
I do
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I asked you
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And you insulted me
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:05
If you did you would come instead of someone dragging it to you
Deleted User
If you did you would come instead of someone dragging it to you
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:05
Im sure thats how Paul acted
serpente482
Im sure thats how Paul acted
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:06
Paul came for the truth when he seeked it
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He actually did
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But it wasnt so sudden however
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:06
And he went and shared it with everyone he could
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:06
But to spread it wasnt easy
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You see where im going with this?, when Paul preached only few people knew Christ
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:07
And know is the world's biggest religiom
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Thanks to Catholicism
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:07
Some baptized by the name of Jesus Christ... Which nowadays commonly you baptize people by in the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit
serpente482
Thanks to Catholicism
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:07
Orthodoxy*
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If it werent for us
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You guys wouldnt had existed
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:07
See
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:07
If it werent for us orthodox
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:07
You cant even accept pure facts
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:07
But im telling the truth
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Wanna know why?
Deleted User
If it werent for us orthodox
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:08
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:08
Well if you dont believe it
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I can prove it
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:09
Please do
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:09
Ok be ready
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Oh and btw
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@serpente482 you said that the orthodox church is small?
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You were saying?...
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:15
It is
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:15
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:16
You know
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All those things helped to expand the word of God
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:16
serpente482
All those things helped to expand the word of God
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:16
Overkill* (edited)
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:16
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:16
Again papism is heresy
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Just recognize him as a bishop
Deleted User
Again papism is heresy
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:17
Why does God favor us and not you
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:17
One is to take full authority over all churches
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:17
It all comes to that
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All talk about things we disagree
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But the truth is that the Catholic Church did better
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And you cant say otherwise
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:17
Well
serpente482
But the truth is that the Catholic Church did better
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:17
Come on
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:17
Then why does catholic churches allows gay marriage?
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At least some
Deleted User
Then why does catholic churches allows gay marriage?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:18
None do
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:18
Why you guys not fighting back against sins?
serpente482
None do
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:18
Hmmmm?
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Want me to show ya?
Deleted User
Why you guys not fighting back against sins?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:18
We are
Deleted User
Want me to show ya?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:18
Are you going to show a random priest that allows it and call it the Catholic Church?
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I didnt know everyone in the Church was supposed to be without sin and make no mistake
serpente482
I didnt know everyone in the Church was supposed to be without sin and make no mistake
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:19
So then why you judge others? Oh but dont say I didn't judged because I did and I had to risk it so I could show you how silly you are being as well
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So what
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So then why you judge others? Oh but dont say I didn't judged because I did and I had to risk it so I could show you how silly you are being as well
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:19
Judge when?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:19
In the end of all of this we going to call each other miscommunicated?
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Or "far from the truth"?
serpente482
Judge when?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:20
Idk
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:20
But only one of us is willing to talk things out to unite the two Churches
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We pray for you
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Do you pray for us?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:20
Always
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:20
In Church
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I mean
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:20
Even if we are in different positions
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Yes
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Sure
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Youre RC
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And im EO
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But the question in fact is
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:21
Then why are you so eager to refuse to reach a middle point
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:21
Why did all of sudden we had to come to this massive debate?
serpente482
Then why are you so eager to refuse to reach a middle point
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:21
I try to but it seems you keep denying
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The allegations
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:21
What allegations
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:21
About the nicenian creed
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And the filioque
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:22
I dont care about the filoque that much
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:22
And other things that the church doesnt want to speak upon
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Why are there certain things the catholic church wont speak about or respond?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:23
Like?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:23
As I've mentioned before
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Why wont they open up about the schism? (edited)
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:23
Open up?
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The Catholic Church is constantly asking to speak with the orthodox church and to reunite
serpente482
The Catholic Church is constantly asking to speak with the orthodox church and to reunite
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:24
Is it though?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:24
I dont think theres that many catholics who wouldnt like to see the Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church becoming one again
serpente482
I dont think theres that many catholics who wouldnt like to see the Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church becoming one again
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:24
Man
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Thats my wish too
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But unfortunately one of us have to be wrong and I hate saying this
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Is it though?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:25
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2025-06/pope-leo-xiv-ecumenical-delegation-patriarchate-constantinople.html
Pope reaffirms commitment to full communion with Orthodox Church - ...
Addressing a delegation from the Ecumenical Patriarchate on the Solemnity of Saints Peter and Paul, Pope Leo XIV reiterates his commitment to ...
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Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:25
The only thing would be more possible is
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Agree to disagree
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But unfortunately one of us have to be wrong and I hate saying this
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:25
You just have to submit to Rome
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Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:25
Rome?
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Again... the same people who murdered Christians?
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Coliseum? (edited)
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And Nero?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:26
What?
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Nero the emperor?
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Do you want me to talk about Stalin
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:27
LOL
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Is really that your argument?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:27
No
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Its yours
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:27
Remember my brother
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The EO is not only the russian
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Theres Greek
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Antiochian
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:27
You are condemning a city for some people that werent even Christian
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:27
Bulgarian
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And others
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:27
Ottoman Empire
serpente482
Ottoman Empire
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:28
Byzantine*
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:28
Are the muslim rulers there supposed to be used to judge those places?
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Byzantine*
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:28
Constantinople fell and Rome stands
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Omg
serpente482
Constantinople fell and Rome stands
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:28
Sheeesh
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If I were you, I would be ashame of saying this
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:28
You cant even accept basic historical data
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:29
I mean sure byzantine is gone
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But theres antioch
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Dont forget
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:29
So
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:29
But you wont speak about the battle of the ice
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However lol
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:30
Idk about that
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:30
It was so ridiculous that the catholics had to surrender to St Alexander Nevsky
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:30
Is that your explanation to how the Orthodox Church has been outside of history for half a millenium
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:30
You literallu
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Your church
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Attacked ours
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And we didnt asked for it (edited)
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But you guys did
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:31
I didnt know people asked for attacks
Deleted User
But you guys did
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:31
So what
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:31
So you guys got defeated
22:31
By Russia
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:31
The USA sank their own boat to start a war with us and give the final blow to our dying empire
22:31
And i dont care about it
Deleted User
By Russia
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:32
Should i send the numbers again?
serpente482
Should i send the numbers again?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:32
Lol, this is your only coping mechanism? Showing the church numbers?
22:32
I thought we were over this
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:32
Your cope is a random battle in the middle ages
serpente482
Your cope is a random battle in the middle ages
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:32
Orthodoxy is rising
22:33
Thats a fact
22:33
It wont be like that for any longer
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:33
In the internet
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Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:33
Rl
22:33
Real life my friend
22:33
All people that are young or on their 20s and 30s and ngl?
22:33
Even I saw a 50 year old guy
22:33
Who left the RC and became orthodox
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:33
Dude
22:33
Quick google
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:34
They are starting to realize the truth
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:34
Catholicsm is growing faster
serpente482
Catholicsm is growing faster
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:34
Dont tell me its because the new pope got in command and its an american pope
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:34
If a Catholic turns orthodox because they heard about lies spread by media is not a true conversion
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22:34
It doesnt add anyone to the list of christians
22:34
Go to Africa
Deleted User
Dont tell me its because the new pope got in command and its an american pope
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:34
Trust me it works
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:34
India
22:34
China
22:35
You have them next to russia
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:35
They all are becoming orthodox
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:35
And you are just putting trad videos on tiktok
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Deleted User
They all are becoming orthodox
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:35
Stop the cope
serpente482
And you are just putting trad videos on tiktok
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:35
Chill bruh
22:35
Dont gotta be aggresive like that mane
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:35
Its not being aggressive
22:35
Its the truth
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:35
Really?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:35
Ive had protestants preach to me
22:36
Ive had jehova witnesses
22:36
Catholics of course cuz im spanish
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:36
Then how come catholicism hasnt reached these countries yet?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:36
But orthodox?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:36
I mean they might but its small
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:36
Despite the millions of romaninans in my country
22:36
None
serpente482
Despite the millions of romaninans in my country
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:36
You havent digged deeper enough
Deleted User
Then how come catholicism hasnt reached these countries yet?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:37
Tell me one country we havent reached
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:37
The truth is not something easy to find
22:37
You look for it
Deleted User
The truth is not something easy to find
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:37
If that was true
22:37
The world would had been fixed by now
Deleted User
The truth is not something easy to find
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:37
The truth is shared by work
22:37
The truth doesn appear instantly as clarividence
22:38
If that was the case why would have Jesus come?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:38
Simple, but would everyone give up for the truth and find Him however? No
22:38
And is not through papacy we find truth
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:39
It is through Jesus
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:39
Yes
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:39
And the one who shares the word of Jesus the most
22:39
Is the Church
22:39
Whose vicar is the Pope
22:39
And thats true
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:40
Again...
Deleted User
Again...
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:40
Rome stood
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:40
Now
22:41
Wanna know what else
22:41
Made catholics leave church?
22:41
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldg5WylLCgc&list=PL6eyVWFC0v8dRxtTvcdACuo3AOkvB9eb3&index=7&pp=iAQB
Kyle
The Catholic Worship Problem
22:41
Its sad really
22:41
If you think you can fix Rome
22:41
Or the papacy
22:41
Or the catholic church
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:41
Im not watching that
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:41
Why dont you do it?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:41
Its probably cope about made up stuff
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Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:41
Damn bruh
22:42
It seems youre not wanting to swallow the truth about it
22:42
Because it does happen tho
22:42
Right?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:42
Im sorry i dont consider Kyle to be divinely inspired to show me the Truth
22:42
If you want me to listen to it you type it
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:43
Look man... But he aint far from the truth though
22:43
I seen that stuff happening in the RC
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:43
Is that also crying about Hail Mary?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:43
Maybe in a monastery it wont but im saying like
22:44
Churches that you usually have to be convenient
22:44
Closer to your home
22:44
Then you see people hypervenerating Mary even though she is venerable but to a point that is too hyperfixated?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:44
Hypervenerating?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:44
Cmon man, dont do Theotokos like that
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:45
Are you a protestant
serpente482
Are you a protestant
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:45
No if I was, I would be like you
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:45
You are complaining about we venerating Mary too much?
22:45
How can you even suggest the Mother of God deserves less as an orthodox
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Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:46
Its just some catholic churches are building a shrine for her and replacing Jesus
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:46
No one is replacing Jesus
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:46
Wanna bet?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:46
Stop spitting protestant heresies
Deleted User
Wanna bet?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:46
On what
22:46
I go to Catholic mass
22:46
You dont
22:47
You will just send me something some protestant has googled
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:47
serpente482
You will just send me something some protestant has googled
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:47
You projecting so much
22:47
On yourself
22:47
You the one protesting against the true church
Deleted User
Click to see attachment 🖼️
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:47
Snca
Deleted User
You the one protesting against the true church
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:48
The snca church
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Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:48
Bro why the cope?
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:48
Cope what
22:49
You cant even accept the Catholic Church is the most important institution of human history
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22:49
Even atheists agree
22:49
Because it just is
22:49
Still today
serpente482
You cant even accept the Catholic Church is the most important institution of human history
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:49
Was*
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:49
Name one more important
22:50
The UN?
22:50
Who cares about that
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 22:50
>Kyle
22:50
He's buns, most of these youtube people are (edited)
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:50
Yea but I brought specially the obvious points
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 22:51
He rejects original sin and denies the atonement
Мико⚜🐾
He rejects original sin and denies the atonement
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:51
But in these videos he didnt spoke about that at all
Deleted User
Yea but I brought specially the obvious points
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:51
We venerate Mary too much?
22:51
I undestand lack of veneration being problematic
22:51
But too much?
22:51
Really
serpente482
We venerate Mary too much?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:51
Yall fixated on so many things that you forget the most important stuff
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 22:51
Deleted User
Yall fixated on so many things that you forget the most important stuff
serpente482 08/07/2025 22:52
So orthodox of you to say that
22:52
Now you will say the Eucharist is symbolic aswell
serpente482
Now you will say the Eucharist is symbolic aswell
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:52
Its the body and the blood of Christ
22:53
The true blood and body
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 22:53
Its not really an educated critique to make that RCs somehow venerate Mary too much, given that the RCC appeals to the Eastern Fathers to defend the teaching of Immaculate Conception (edited)
22:54
Like Ephrem the Syrian, John Damascene, Ecumenius, Gregory Palamas etc. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Click to see original message
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 22:56
Perhaps the prayers are a bit overdramatic, yeah, but to charge RCs with idolatry when our pillar says that she is the boundary between created and uncreated nature, and that no one can come to God except through her and her Son.. (edited)
22:56
Its silly
22:57
The only good point Kyle brings up here is the loss of reverent worship altogether in certain parts of the Catholic world as a result of V2, & nothing really being done about it, restrictions being placed on traditional mass (edited)
22:59
etc.
Мико⚜🐾
The only good point Kyle brings up here is the loss of reverent worship altogether in certain parts of the Catholic world as a result of V2, & nothing really being done about it, restrictions being placed on traditional mass (edited)
Deleted User 08/07/2025 22:59
Basically this meme
22:59
But I laugh because this is so true
23:00
Dude last time I went to church were 2 years ago
23:00
And they were all singing Blues and Jazz style
Deleted User
And they were all singing Blues and Jazz style
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:01
Americans arent the representatives of the Catholic Church
23:02
The Catholics there compete against the evangelicals
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:02
Catholics = envangelicals atp
23:02
Dont even argue
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:02
Im not arguing because its straight up false
23:03
Same as most of what youve been saying
23:03
You are the kind of person who would complain about children masses being to infantile
serpente482
The Catholics there compete against the evangelicals
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:03
Why is this a competition?
Arcane BOT 08/07/2025 23:03
@Deleted User has reached level 11. GG!
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:04
It shouldnt be and they should focus on the true matters
23:04
If this is going to be a competition, empty me out of the irreverence
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:04
Changed Church over snca and now wonders why theres competition
serpente482
Changed Church over snca and now wonders why theres competition
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:04
Orthodoxy >>>> RC
23:04
Hating on orthodoxy because skill issue ig
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:04
Okay
23:04
And red >>>> green
serpente482
And red >>>> green
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:05
Agreed, red is best color (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 23:05
https://youtu.be/tyUcF2yNm2w Children’s liturgies are cute
Orthodox Church
Orthodox Patriarch of Moscow serves Children's Divine Liturgy
Deleted User
Hating on orthodoxy because skill issue ig
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:05
I havent hated on it once, unlike you with us
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:05
I never did hated RC
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serpente482 08/07/2025 23:05
I just said what i said
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:05
I just think their directions is uncertain
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:05
Well they work
23:06
I see every time more people coming back to Christ
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:06
@Мико⚜🐾
23:06
Whats your stance?
23:06
Because
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:06
People who might not stand by all the things
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:06
Its sad
23:06
Like
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:06
Because we live in troublesome times
23:07
And i dont think spreading lies about catholicism is making any good thing for christianity
23:07
If you want to be orthodox
23:07
Fine
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 23:07
i mean, i hate to say it, but you're kind of just proving Serpente’s point about people who leave Catholicism for Orthodoxy its usually as a result of YouTube apologetics fibs and Instagram silliness and not because they do serious research (edited)
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:07
But if you are anticatholic you are not christian
Мико⚜🐾
i mean, i hate to say it, but you're kind of just proving Serpente’s point about people who leave Catholicism for Orthodoxy its usually as a result of YouTube apologetics fibs and Instagram silliness and not because they do serious research (edited)
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:07
I never went because of social medias though
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 23:08
You were bringing their arguments
Deleted User
I never went because of social medias though
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:08
Then who convinced you
23:08
Where did you find all that stuff
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 23:08
Just like what that other kid in here was doing months ago
serpente482
Where did you find all that stuff
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:08
Simple man, if you were on my shoes you would understand, nothing is the same anymore
23:08
If only me and you could switch places
Deleted User
I never did hated RC
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 23:09
You said you wouldn't submit to Rome because they killed people or whatever
Мико⚜🐾
You said you wouldn't submit to Rome because they killed people or whatever
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:09
And he used Nero
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:09
Well am I wrong here though?
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:09
Yes
23:10
Because Nero killed christians from Rome
23:10
That like using Lenin and Stalin against the Orthodox Church
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:10
Well he did and his soldiers did too
serpente482
That like using Lenin and Stalin against the Orthodox Church
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:10
And we fought against them
23:10
But ig I was a bit harsh
Deleted User
And we fought against them
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:10
Irrelevant
23:11
The Reds won
23:11
The communism fell
serpente482
Irrelevant
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:11
But just because your path had their own struggles doesnt mean we didnt had our own
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 23:11
https://nftu.net/observations-purgatory-met-macarius-bulgakov-moscow-1816-1882/ read this on purgatory @Deleted User you will see that we disagree on some minor points but thats it (edited)
NFTU NEWS
Observations on Purgatory by Met. Macarius (Bulgakov) of Moscow (18...
[Taken from “Orthodox Dogmatic Theology”, Vol. II, pg. 725] The doctrine of the Roman Church on Purgatory has some resemblance to the doctrine of the Orthodox Church on th…
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:11
The reds didnt won
23:11
They died
23:11
And lost
23:11
The USSR fell
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:12
Sure but the damage is done
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:12
So what?
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:12
So what what
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:12
Same thing the RC had too
23:12
It was already done too
23:12
The church had some damages too
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:12
So why you even bring it up
23:12
Nigga
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:12
We both did
23:12
Nigga
23:12
Im literally saying
23:13
Because the same shit you can argue about the orthodox is the same shit Im going to argue with the catholic
23:13
And it doesnt end anywhere
serpente482
So why you even bring it up
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:13
Nigga
Arcane BOT 08/07/2025 23:13
@serpente482 has reached level 79. GG!
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:13
And yet you came here to ask me "why the change?"
23:13
So I had to answer to you
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:13
And you said we thought the Pope was a god
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:14
Yeah because you think if someone leaves the catholic church for orthodox is absurd?
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:14
And showed that you believed false information
serpente482
And showed that you believed false information
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:14
Nope
Deleted User
Yeah because you think if someone leaves the catholic church for orthodox is absurd?
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:14
If they do because they are lied yea
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Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:14
I just dont rely on pope
serpente482
If they do because they are lied yea
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:14
@Мико⚜🐾
23:14
You orthodox
23:14
Right?
23:15
What does this have to do with switching?
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 23:15
Yes, I'm an Orthodox Christian
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:15
Like
23:15
One says orthodox church is lying
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:15
No
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:15
And the other I have to be on the stanfe
23:15
Stance*
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 23:15
2
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:15
That I have to defend orthodoxy
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:15
I said your sources lied to you
serpente482
I said your sources lied to you
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:15
How so?
23:15
You didnt proved me shit nigga
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:16
>The Pope is a god >All religions are the same according to the pope
Deleted User
You didnt proved me shit nigga
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:16
I did
serpente482
>The Pope is a god >All religions are the same according to the pope
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:16
You even admitted
23:16
He said that
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:16
You believed in lies
Deleted User
He said that
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:16
He didnt say that
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 23:16
And I would agree with Serpente that people who switch to Orthodoxy from Catholicism and vice versa often do it for dumb reasons
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:16
He said all are a path
23:17
Because everyone who believes in a god is because they are searching for God
serpente482
Because everyone who believes in a god is because they are searching for God
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:17
But how does that bring to Christ though?
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:17
And the true God is the christian one
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:17
Give me 3 sentences
23:17
Of why this claim is veridic
23:17
Or true (edited)
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:18
What
Мико⚜🐾
And I would agree with Serpente that people who switch to Orthodoxy from Catholicism and vice versa often do it for dumb reasons
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:18
But mine was reasonable
23:18
And very
serpente482
What
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:18
Yeah man?
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:18
You didnt explain it
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:18
Where is it?
23:18
So...
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:18
I domt even know what you want me to defend
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:18
What did he meant by that? How is this relevant that these religions will bring to Christ?
Deleted User
But mine was reasonable
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 23:19
I would hope so but based off of your messages I think you have some more to look into
Deleted User
What did he meant by that? How is this relevant that these religions will bring to Christ?
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:19
Because Christ is God and the knowledge of God being real is shown by humans being religious almost always
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 23:19
This is your soul you're playing with
23:19
your salvation
Мико⚜🐾
I would hope so but based off of your messages I think you have some more to look into
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:19
But you aknowledge theres a difference between EO and RC right?
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 23:19
take more care with these things (edited)
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:19
You cant be dickriding two at once
23:20
I remember...
Deleted User
But you aknowledge theres a difference between EO and RC right?
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:20
Are those differences that important?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:20
Having a protestant friend that was so annoying
Deleted User
But you aknowledge theres a difference between EO and RC right?
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 23:20
Well yes, if I did not think there was a difference I would not tell people to convert at all
23:20
Or argue for EO
23:20
I just dont think people should leave for dumb reasons
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:20
He kept saying "so... you switching RC and EO? You kinda serving two gods" haha silly him
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:20
No?
23:20
I never said that
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:21
Not you
23:21
Someone I knew
Мико⚜🐾
take more care with these things (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 23:21
Christianity isnt some aesthetic, even if it is aesthetic (edited)
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:21
If you left the Church because of lies then thats not the work of Jesus
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23:21
Im sorry
23:21
But lying is not how he works
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:22
If I lied then why schism happened?
23:22
Sple
23:22
Simple*
serpente482
If you left the Church because of lies then thats not the work of Jesus
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 23:22
God, He can sometimes bring people to the Church for the wrong reasons
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:22
Give me 1 min answer
Мико⚜🐾 08/07/2025 23:22
But its uncommon
Deleted User
If I lied then why schism happened?
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:22
Because the roman empire was split between two and the two sides wanted control
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Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:22
Then why did we had to do schism if it was unnecessary then?
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:23
Thats what i say
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:23
Like screw the powers
23:23
But why
23:23
Just because of a small change?
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:23
Because politics
23:23
Same as the reformation
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:23
But just because of that does it give a right to poke a person of another church?
23:24
I mean shoot at least what would be a red flag for me is if theres no trinity
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:24
In the day of the Judge will i be taken into account because i believed Jesus was born in a estable instead of a cave?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:24
I think someone not believing in the trinity and claiming to be a Christian would bother me
serpente482
In the day of the Judge will i be taken into account because i believed Jesus was born in a estable instead of a cave?
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:24
I think mormons into that
Deleted User
I think someone not believing in the trinity and claiming to be a Christian would bother me
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:25
I think someone trying to believe in Christ but failing at that stuff will also bother me but i have to try to explain things in a nice way
23:25
I already get very stubborn when people want to accept gay shit
serpente482
I already get very stubborn when people want to accept gay shit
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:25
Same here
Deleted User
I think mormons into that
serpente482 08/07/2025 23:26
And mormoms believe that because a person lied to them
23:26
Getting mad with them for having faith in what they were told was true is not a sin
23:26
I hope mormons are saved
23:27
And if it bothers people because they sinned a lot
23:27
Thats why purgatory exists
Deleted User 08/07/2025 23:38
Alright
23:38
See at least we agree onto something
23:38
I will however apologize for being a dick to you
23:38
If I was being
23:39
But just because I changed churches doesnt mean I was believing in lies, but what if its because it changed?
23:40
And I cant find the same essence in that one catholic church as I do now on the EO?
23:40
And again man times has changed and I didnt knew it would come to this (edited)
23:42
They changed worship and is not like what it was before
23:42
Also
23:42
To tell the truth, nobody called me or talked to me
23:42
I only used to go to that church because of my father
23:43
But he died
23:43
But really nobody answered me or cared to talk to me or ask how I've been when I stepped into orthodoxy
23:44
The catholic church when I step into the one I used to it smells and feels empty
23:44
Its like im going to an envangelical church but shoot, you only say hi and next day is bye
23:44
Most people I used to go to school are there but they never cared about me
23:45
I made good friends in the EO, shoot I even get invited to their dinners
23:45
And they ask how I've been
23:45
RC really what they did to my family was treat it as if it was business
23:45
Funeral business
23:46
Income business
23:46
Really... I never really did have a family in RC
23:46
And wanna know what else?
23:46
I asked if my uncle could help me
23:47
But hes a piece of shit of "godfather" for not asking about us
23:47
After 3 months
23:47
We were struggling
23:47
Now we trying to get our shit together
23:47
But really, did I ever had help from RC?
23:47
Or my uncle?
23:47
Heh, my dad was just a tool for him
23:48
I have great reasons to not to be in the RC
23:48
But niggas will say "ayy nigga you should still go to church no matter what"
23:48
Im better where im at rn
23:49
But I dont think most RC churches are like that but shoot, I go to another ones and they are slowly progressing to this "new worship"
23:49
But anyways too personal but ye, I had my own reasons to change
23:49
Now idc about the pope and that shit or the RC just keeping it simple
23:50
@serpente482 but yo
23:50
Dont mistaken me saying I'm not praying for yall
23:50
Cuz I am, I got some people wanting to go to church
23:51
I got a catholic brother that unfortunately he moved to Florida
23:51
And I'm praying for him over there (edited)
serpente482 08/08/2025 08:20
Okay
08:20
Just dont lie
08:20
About us
serpente482
Just dont lie
Deleted User 08/08/2025 11:02
Never did, but dont lie about orthos
Deleted User
Never did, but dont lie about orthos
serpente482 08/08/2025 11:04
You did, i didnt
serpente482
You did, i didnt
Deleted User 08/08/2025 11:14
No u
11:18
And also
11:19
Im waiting for an apology to call someone that doesnt agree with a catholic dogma an "anti catholic" thats too much of a stretch really
11:19
Same thing I can tell youre anti orthodox
11:24
So just because EO is not papist you assume it's heresy
11:27
Again... Im not going to argue about this because I explained million of times this bias of between the two and yet you deny the ecummenical council, the nicenian creed, and cope arguments such as "If the truth is large it should be preached" as some sort of shield
11:28
But fine, if you prefer Rome it's alright
11:28
If you prefer the RC over the EO, cool
Deleted User 08/08/2025 11:47
Also your truth ≠ to the truth
11:48
Could argue the same thing as if you left the orthodox church for catholic
11:48
And I could be dogging you too like youre doing with me
11:49
But now, I won't argue with a filioque and papist because honestly this convo won't go nowhere
11:50
But just massive coping
serpente482
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deleted User 08/08/2025 11:51
Also thats very desingenuous of you
11:52
I wonder how Mikko calls himself EO and defending your heresies like that, I mean... Its reasonable he doesn't want to lose his friend over truth
11:53
But either you defend papism or you're within the true church
Deleted User
I wonder how Mikko calls himself EO and defending your heresies like that, I mean... Its reasonable he doesn't want to lose his friend over truth
Deleted User 08/08/2025 11:55
I mean not going to lie, If I was him I would probably would risk my dignity so I can't lose a good friendship over the matter
11:55
Same shit hes doing here
11:55
But Ig I wont argue with you anymore for his sake neither
11:55
Hes a cool guy
Deleted User
I wonder how Mikko calls himself EO and defending your heresies like that, I mean... Its reasonable he doesn't want to lose his friend over truth
serpente482 08/08/2025 11:55
Heresies?
11:55
Wtf are you talking about
11:56
You said we think the Pope is god
11:56
Thats a lie
11:56
I just said the orthodox church is smaller
Deleted User 08/08/2025 11:56
If you say so
serpente482 08/08/2025 11:56
Which it is
Deleted User 08/08/2025 11:56
Youre the one saying that
serpente482 08/08/2025 11:56
I didnt say anything else
11:56
And posted a meme
11:56
About internet orthodoxs
Deleted User 08/08/2025 11:56
But its funny you assume I was an internet orthodox guy
11:56
Thats also a lie
serpente482 08/08/2025 11:57
Mikko said it himself
11:57
You sounded like one
Deleted User 08/08/2025 11:57
He doesnt know me personally so doesnt matter
Deleted User
I wonder how Mikko calls himself EO and defending your heresies like that, I mean... Its reasonable he doesn't want to lose his friend over truth
Мико⚜🐾 08/08/2025 11:57
Defending his heresies? No, I'm just pointing out that the polemic you have against him is a poor one
Deleted User 08/08/2025 11:57
Same thing I dont know you
Мико⚜🐾
Defending his heresies? No, I'm just pointing out that the polemic you have against him is a poor one
Deleted User 08/08/2025 11:57
Really?
Мико⚜🐾 08/08/2025 11:58
Ofc I think Orthodoxy is true, is more correct than Catholicism, or I wouldn't be Orthodox (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Ofc I think Orthodoxy is true, is more correct than Catholicism, or I wouldn't be Orthodox (edited)
Deleted User 08/08/2025 11:58
Then why sugarcoat his bias?
Мико⚜🐾 08/08/2025 11:58
Im just saying that the arguments you're giving him aren't good
Мико⚜🐾
Im just saying that the arguments you're giving him aren't good
Deleted User 08/08/2025 11:58
Ok?
Deleted User
Then why sugarcoat his bias?
serpente482 08/08/2025 11:58
Because you arent changing my mind same as im not changing yours
11:58
In fact
11:58
Im more away from the orthdoox church now than yesterday
Deleted User
Then why sugarcoat his bias?
Мико⚜🐾 08/08/2025 11:59
Because I'm honest, Im not going to tell you your points of contention are good and will actually make him reconsider his faith if I dont find them to be (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Because I'm honest, Im not going to tell you your points of contention are good and will actually make him reconsider his faith if I dont find them to be (edited)
Deleted User 08/08/2025 12:00
Its funny because just like yesterday he wanted to feel like it would change my mind with this non-sense of "Oh did you left the one true church because of lies"? Very condescending if I have to be honest
Deleted User
Its funny because just like yesterday he wanted to feel like it would change my mind with this non-sense of "Oh did you left the one true church because of lies"? Very condescending if I have to be honest
serpente482 08/08/2025 12:00
Because you said lies
12:00
Lies dont come from God
Deleted User 08/08/2025 12:01
And funny how you wont address the papacy Mikko
12:01
You have to be honest even if its not enough
serpente482 08/08/2025 12:01
Why would mikko have to
12:01
This is an averi server
Deleted User 08/08/2025 12:02
It all started because you asked me why I switched
Мико⚜🐾 08/08/2025 12:02
I mean, Serpente has dealt with several ex-Catholics in just here who were romanticising the online image of the Orthodox Church, and were just parroting the poor apologetics you get off of YouTube. And I have experienced the same thing with ex-Orthodox who left for Protestantism or Catholicism. (edited)
12:02
But it is a problem more so for us
Deleted User
It all started because you asked me why I switched
serpente482 08/08/2025 12:02
And you said the Pope said all religions are thr same and that he is god for me
12:02
Which were lies
Мико⚜🐾
I mean, Serpente has dealt with several ex-Catholics in just here who were romanticising the online image of the Orthodox Church, and were just parroting the poor apologetics you get off of YouTube. And I have experienced the same thing with ex-Orthodox who left for Protestantism or Catholicism. (edited)
Deleted User 08/08/2025 12:02
But thats not the case
serpente482
And you said the Pope said all religions are thr same and that he is god for me
Deleted User 08/08/2025 12:02
I mean there are sources he clearly said that
Мико⚜🐾 08/08/2025 12:03
I will tell you that is indeed the case, I run several Orthodox communities online (edited)
12:03
with thousands of members between them
Deleted User
I mean there are sources he clearly said that
serpente482 08/08/2025 12:03
And there are resons he said that
12:03
He went to a country were christianity was not the major religion
Мико⚜🐾 08/08/2025 12:03
Orthodoxos, 2.1k people Blachernae, 900 people SIIIG’s server, 500 people
serpente482 08/08/2025 12:03
And was trying to convert the people
12:03
Thats what christians do
Мико⚜🐾 08/08/2025 12:03
I’m about to get this Calvinist one off of the ground
Мико⚜🐾
I’m about to get this Calvinist one off of the ground
Deleted User 08/08/2025 12:04
The one from yesterday?
Мико⚜🐾 08/08/2025 12:04
No, no, I'm talking about a server I do admin for
Deleted User 08/08/2025 12:05
Yes but whos calvinist?
serpente482
He went to a country were christianity was not the major religion
Deleted User 08/08/2025 12:06
I mean, he could had worded differently, because honestly its weird the way he worded that
12:06
Like if he means like "yeah everyone is seeking God by religions but even so... It has truth to it when found by Christ"
Deleted User
I mean, he could had worded differently, because honestly its weird the way he worded that
serpente482 08/08/2025 12:06
Weird for you and the wording he made is not the same one you got from that media title you read
Deleted User 08/08/2025 12:06
Or for example someone once was a buddhist but they consider taking Christianity
12:07
But it seems they need to have a good reason to come to Christianity, instead of wondering about their will of why they chose Christianity first place
12:07
I think wondering why people become Christians or why people chose churches over another is a fixation
12:08
Again, we don't know each other's intention, some you can say is disingenuous and some is just pure will
12:08
We cant really judge upon decisions can we?
12:09
I mean we are not God to decide who has more ground than the other person
Deleted User
Yes but whos calvinist?
Мико⚜🐾 08/08/2025 12:09
I said the server is Calvinist, the owner is Reformed
Мико⚜🐾
I said the server is Calvinist, the owner is Reformed
Deleted User 08/08/2025 12:10
Is it RZ?
12:10
Redeemed Zoomer's server?
Мико⚜🐾 08/08/2025 12:10
the reason why I am helping him, if you’re wondering, is because I want Eastern Orthodox to have access to Reformed resources
12:10
So we can better understand and critique their theology
12:11
I see too many strawmans from EO apologists of their positions, too many missed critiques that would actually be damaging to their position (edited)
12:11
And also some people who fall into heresy in their attack against them as well, like when they deny penal substitionary atonement altogether (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
And also some people who fall into heresy in their attack against them as well, like when they deny penal substitionary atonement altogether (edited)
Deleted User 08/08/2025 12:14
But usually
12:15
Thats most protestant denominations
12:15
And envangelicals
12:15
Not all of them are 1000% different
12:16
Like a pentecostal and an envangelical have a very closer belief (edited)
12:16
Same for a calvinist and a guy that believes in arianism
12:17
Or a baptist person to a JW
12:17
They have similarities not so far from each other
12:18
Some have same theology between predestination, penal substitionary atonement issues
12:18
Sola scriptura
12:18
All that, I wouldnt think theyre too far off from each other @Мико⚜🐾
vertandus 08/08/2025 19:32
guh
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vertandus
guh
Deleted User 08/08/2025 19:36
Uh oh
19:36
Stinky
VikingTiger6 08/08/2025 22:21
kjv only is dumb because it denys the fact that God preserves his word
VikingTiger6
kjv only is dumb because it denys the fact that God preserves his word
Deleted User 08/08/2025 22:23
They disregard the good news bible, niv, esv
22:23
Nkjv
22:24
Crazy
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/08/2025 22:39
John 10:10
BibleBot BOT 08/08/2025 22:39
John 10:10 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<10> The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly.
vertandus
guh
serpente482 08/09/2025 19:22
Belief is involuntary
serpente482 08/10/2025 14:59
They gave me this at Church today in my village
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Мико⚜🐾 08/10/2025 15:05
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Мико⚜🐾 08/10/2025 18:38
https://x.com/August1757657/status/1924219276266803201 (edited)
Paul (@August1757657)
“No one is distinguished from that condemned lump on the basis of the foreknowledge of future works, but one is separated out on the basis of the compassionate Potter’s help and work.” St. Fulgentius
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/10/2025 21:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQdKPEHWSHc
Briana Whitney
FULL JAILHOUSE INTERVIEW: Confessed Pastor Killer Speaks
21:17
This is a literal demon-possessed man.
Мико⚜🐾 08/10/2025 22:46
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQdKPEHWSHc
Мико⚜🐾 08/10/2025 22:46
Lord have mercy!
22:48
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Randnew 08/11/2025 21:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgFN8gJz7Ec
Catholic News Service
Pope visits graves of children and the unborn
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21:56
This broke me
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/11/2025 22:08
Biblically speaking, how do you deal with demons?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Biblically speaking, how do you deal with demons?
Deleted User 08/11/2025 22:10
Call it in the name of Jesus and rebuke them
22:10
22:10
Deleted User
Call it in the name of Jesus and rebuke them
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/11/2025 22:10
Thought so.
Deleted User 08/11/2025 22:11
@serpente482 is protestant
22:11
He can tell u everything
22:11
Not u
22:11
GR
22:11
I MEANT
22:11
nigger...
22:11
Yeah GR
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/11/2025 22:11
>serp >prot Imagine
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
>serp >prot Imagine
Deleted User 08/11/2025 22:11
He is
22:11
Cuz catholic
22:11
Catholic are old school prots
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22:11
Tbf
22:11
But theyre cool
22:12
As long hes not french im cool with him
22:12
Now...
22:12
I will call a cop to shut down a fuck house
Deleted User
Catholic are old school prots
serpente482 08/11/2025 23:22
So orthodox church had Popes then changed their mind?
23:23
The schism only has two possibilities
23:23
Catholics and Orthodoxs were the same
23:23
Or you are the prots
serpente482
So orthodox church had Popes then changed their mind?
Deleted User 08/12/2025 00:52
Bro do you know sarcasm?
Deleted User
Catholic are old school prots
Deleted User 08/12/2025 00:57
Deleted User
Bro do you know sarcasm?
serpente482 08/12/2025 08:52
Cant know if its sarcasm if its in the line of things you usually say
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VikingTiger6 08/13/2025 04:23
puritan prayer
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 08/13/2025 14:48
So I have some good news
14:49
I'm no longer thinking about joining the GOC under Archbishop Kallinikos. What made me decide to not join the GOC is that they deny that World Orthodoxy has grace even though World Orthodoxy still produces great saints & miracles.
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14:51
I'm planning on switching from GOARCH to the Georgian Orthodox Church since they've managed to remain free from the heresy of Ecumenism & retain the Patristic Calendar.
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς
I'm planning on switching from GOARCH to the Georgian Orthodox Church since they've managed to remain free from the heresy of Ecumenism & retain the Patristic Calendar.
Мико⚜🐾 08/13/2025 14:52
If you could, go for it
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 08/13/2025 14:52
There's a Georgian Parish near me
14:52
Funny enough, it's a couple blocks away from the Convention Center where I went for Otakon
14:52
https://www.sttamardc.org/
St Tamar Georgian Orthodox Church in Washington DC | Georgian Churc...
St Tamar Church is the only Georgian Orthodox Church in DC metro (DMV) area
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Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς
Funny enough, it's a couple blocks away from the Convention Center where I went for Otakon
Мико⚜🐾 08/13/2025 14:53
Ohh, I forgot to respond to you about that
14:53
how was it?
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 08/13/2025 14:53
It was a complete blast
14:53
Lemme share the pictures of it in #🍥anime-and-manga
14:55
Just did
14:55
So the Georgian Orthodox parish meets at the Episcopalian parish
14:55
I hope to convince them to meet at the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception instead
14:56
Especially since they have a Byzantine Rite Chapel
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/13/2025 15:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rvzRw6-EF8
Wise Disciple
Demons Are NOT What You Think! (Feat. Michael Heiser)
15:10
I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS I FUCKING HATE DEMONS
Randnew 08/13/2025 19:30
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/13/2025 20:18
@Мико⚜🐾 What do you make of this idea that Muhammad never existed?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 What do you make of this idea that Muhammad never existed?
serpente482 08/13/2025 20:45
He existed most likely
20:46
Very recorded and has a lot of descendants
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/13/2025 20:46
It's an idea I've seen floating around
20:46
I've not really looked into it properly
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 What do you make of this idea that Muhammad never existed?
Мико⚜🐾 08/13/2025 20:47
Makes far more sense to understand Muhammad as a legendary figure
20:47
as opposed to a mythical one (as in one who didn't exist) (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 What do you make of this idea that Muhammad never existed?
VikingTiger6 08/13/2025 23:04
Makes no sense, theres countless accounts of his life that Muslims don't trust because they're too honest and real lol
23:06
Thats why a buncha scholars got together and wrote the Quran that edits out all the controversy lol
NasCar 08/14/2025 03:03
Random thing, not really about theology but kinda related. I was off to college when an old lady stopped me in the elevator. She told me I had a face given to me by God.
03:03
I need to be better
03:04
It was one of the few times where people have told me I don't have a psycho face lol
Deleted User 08/14/2025 04:19
I also have a thing to say
Arcane BOT 08/14/2025 04:19
@Deleted User has reached level 25. GG!
Deleted User 08/14/2025 04:20
That is not theology related
04:20
Or religion related
04:21
So it was storming one of these days but I was on the road, and one of the roads there were a highway and I was about to pick up my mother
04:21
But the thing is in the midst of the storm there was a tornado
04:21
And I was praying the Jesus prayer and it was lighting very badly and it was very horrible
04:21
The lightning went away (edited)
04:22
And the tornado just passed by but it was ugly
04:22
And flooded
04:22
But thankfully the car survived
04:22
Me and my mom too
04:22
She kept telling me "stop doing the sign of the cross, dont you have faith?"
Deleted User
She kept telling me "stop doing the sign of the cross, dont you have faith?"
Deleted User 08/14/2025 04:23
If an atheist or a protestant tell me or question my faith, do never question a faith of a man
04:23
It moves mountains
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/14/2025 14:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAgvftBEx3s
Apologetics Roadshow
Why Mohammed Hijab Can't Stop Losing
14:26
Legendary things happening in the UK right now
Мико⚜🐾 08/14/2025 18:02
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Мико⚜🐾
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Deleted User 08/14/2025 19:08
Jonah?
Deleted User
Jonah?
Мико⚜🐾 08/14/2025 19:09
No, Joseph
Zoraxe
Pray for him, and pray that he does not give in to poor online opinions either
Мико⚜🐾 08/14/2025 23:57
@Stav
Stav 08/14/2025 23:58
Dang
AaWoolf 08/15/2025 17:09
Found out todays August 15, or "The Solemnity of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary" and Im in a majority Roman Catholic country right now, all the shops are closed
17:10
And we had ran out of water after half a day of walking in the half savanna that is Croatia
17:12
Although I did get to go to this Orthodox monastery
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Мико⚜🐾 08/16/2025 16:07
@Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς https://youtu.be/hX0xgo6D5Ek
საქართველოს საპატრიარქო [Patriarchate Of Georgia]
Ave Maria
16:07
found this composition from Patriarch Ilia
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 08/16/2025 16:26
Nice
Мико⚜🐾 08/16/2025 16:29
https://youtu.be/YwU27DNv6uU
St. Petersburg Optina Pustyn Male Choir - Topic
Hail, O Virgin
Мико⚜🐾 08/17/2025 09:15
Randnew 08/17/2025 14:27
Typical Saint Edith Stein W quote
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14:27
"What is the purpose of life?"
Мико⚜🐾 08/19/2025 07:19
https://youtu.be/PxlQih4_pfs
Living Orthodox
Peter Thiel, Transhumanism & Theosis
Мико⚜🐾 08/19/2025 13:11
13:12
https://youtu.be/ibX3LR6mzVs
Библиотека церковного хора
Милость мира на Литургии Василия Вел...
Мико⚜🐾 08/19/2025 15:28
Randnew 08/20/2025 03:48
John 19:37-42 DRA
BibleBot BOT 08/20/2025 03:48
John 19:37-42 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<37> And again another scripture saith: They shall look on him whom they pierced. <38> And after these things, Joseph of Arimathea (because he was a disciple of Jesus, but secretly for fear of the Jews) besought Pilate that he might take away the body of Jesus. And Pilate gave leave. He came therefore, and took the body of Jesus. <39> And Nicodemus also came, (he who at the first came to Jesus by night,) bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about an hundred pound weight. <40> They took therefore the body of Jesus, and bound it in linen cloths, with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury. <41> Now there was in the place where he was crucified, a garden; and in the garden a new sepulchre, wherein no man yet had been laid. <42> There, therefore, because of the parasceve of the Jews, they laid Jesus, because the sepulchre was nigh at hand.
Randnew 08/20/2025 03:49
bruh
03:49
Notsobot lowkey being blasphemous
andrezj 08/20/2025 09:47
recent orthodox icons ive painted and photographed, what do yall think ?
09:48
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Arcane BOT 08/20/2025 09:48
@andrezj has reached level 4. GG!
andrezj 08/20/2025 09:52
sorry for poor image quality
andrezj
recent orthodox icons ive painted and photographed, what do yall think ?
NRG Balbodane 08/20/2025 09:58
huge fan of the seccond one
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NRG Balbodane
huge fan of the seccond one
andrezj 08/20/2025 09:59
the cross ?
NRG Balbodane 08/20/2025 09:59
ja
andrezj
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Мико⚜🐾 08/20/2025 11:04
great stuff! my favourite one is the cross, like my friend john lemon here
11:10
but the Mary one is lovely too
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Мико⚜🐾
but the Mary one is lovely too
andrezj 08/20/2025 11:54
danke
Мико⚜🐾 08/21/2025 09:37
https://youtu.be/YnAZuiubOg0
Europos
The Reconquista's Warrior Saint
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Brøther Særaphim 08/21/2025 13:48
i find very interesting how proper islam cannot, in any way, produce intelligent believers. it's always ismaelis and sufis (that i consider demonic, or at least just very human, to be fair). this would be like if smartest Christians were mormons or gnostics, that being, very weird. thank God Christianity is actually God revealed, instead of demonic like islam, and we have smart and spiritual Saints.
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also, the greatest expert in islam in italy is Orthodox, and friend with my spiritual father, i hope to meet her one day.
Brøther Særaphim
i find very interesting how proper islam cannot, in any way, produce intelligent believers. it's always ismaelis and sufis (that i consider demonic, or at least just very human, to be fair). this would be like if smartest Christians were mormons or gnostics, that being, very weird. thank God Christianity is actually God revealed, instead of demonic like islam, and we have smart and spiritual Saints.
Мико⚜🐾 08/21/2025 15:05
Amen
Randnew 08/22/2025 04:28
Luke 6:20-26 DRA
BibleBot BOT 08/22/2025 04:28
Luke 6:20-26 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<20> And he, lifting up his eyes on his disciples, said: Blessed are ye poor, for yours is the kingdom of God. <21> Blessed are ye that hunger now: for you shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for you shall laugh. <22> Blessed shall you be when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. <23> Be glad in that day and rejoice; for behold, your reward is great in heaven. For according to these things did their fathers to the prophets. <24> But woe to you that are rich: for you have your consolation. <25> Woe to you that are filled: for you shall hunger. Woe to you that now laugh: for you shall mourn and weep. <26> Woe to you when men shall bless you: for according to these things did their fathers to the false prophets.
Κωνσταντίνος Πασάς 08/22/2025 13:25
https://youtu.be/Tm_UOrUd3yU?si=fzmGAikN3RMTZ3jE
Gregory Decapolite
Fr. Seraphim Rose: Hitlerism as the handmaid of Communism
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Мико⚜🐾 08/24/2025 22:55
https://azbyka.ru/otechnik/Georgij_Maksimov/katehizis-dlja-detej/
Катехизис для детей - священник Геор...
Zoraxe 08/25/2025 23:19
Actually had this reading in last week's Mass
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/26/2025 11:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PquHXDYW1I
CartierFamily
Black Pastor Has ‘Black Fatigue’ UNLEASHES on His Community
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11:56
HE LITERALLY DID THAT THING FROM BOONDOCKS
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PquHXDYW1I
Extra-sensory PURRception 08/26/2025 14:33
I agree with him, but the video would've been much better without those 3 niggas just sitting there reacting to it
Мико⚜🐾 08/26/2025 14:41
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/26/2025 15:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rO9GJCQugc
Scribbled Saint
Guardian Angels Are More Powerful Than You Thought.
15:45
@Мико⚜🐾 Grok is this true?
15:45
Oh wait he mentioned catholicism
15:46
@serpente482 Grok is this true?
15:47
What this video makes me bring into question more than anything is, how can one discern if a warning or feeling within you is the Holy Spirit or a Guardian Angel? What's the difference there.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
What this video makes me bring into question more than anything is, how can one discern if a warning or feeling within you is the Holy Spirit or a Guardian Angel? What's the difference there.
serpente482 08/26/2025 17:10
17:11
angel says good things demon says bad things
17:11
and holy spirit can act through angels
serpente482
angel says good things demon says bad things
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/26/2025 22:07
So each of us having an assigned Guardian Angel is trve?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
So each of us having an assigned Guardian Angel is trve?
serpente482 08/26/2025 23:12
Idk
23:12
I hope
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
So each of us having an assigned Guardian Angel is trve?
Мико⚜🐾 08/27/2025 04:00
yes, every Christian receives a guardian angel at baptism however, on certain occasions you can be given one for a time as protection (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
yes, every Christian receives a guardian angel at baptism however, on certain occasions you can be given one for a time as protection (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/27/2025 08:04
I hope my Guardian Angel is doing alright
08:04
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/29/2025 11:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC2pputa8OQ
Remnant777
Leftist Atheist HUMILIATED in Debate After Claiming Theists Are Dumb
VikingTiger6 08/29/2025 19:23
I don't care if believing in God makes me dumb, Jesus said you gotta be like children
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/29/2025 19:24
But believing in God doesn't make you dumb.
VikingTiger6 08/29/2025 19:24
Yea but even if it did I wouldn't care, I'd rather believe in God
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/29/2025 19:24
Believing the universe randomly exploded into existence and that explosion somehow created all the complex life you see is actually dumb
VikingTiger6 08/29/2025 19:25
Being dumb or smart is often based on how society sees you
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 08/31/2025 21:14
Do you think in the new Heaven, Jesus will let me keep my autistic obsessions?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC2pputa8OQ
Deleted User 09/01/2025 02:40
atheism is inherently dumber in the sense that one's will to live in the atheist viewpoint is pure delusion theism provides teleology while atheism leaves the agent's only reason to live being subjective emotion consequentially, their reason for living is an absurdity as an ought cannot be derived from subjectivity it generally holds because the sentiment behind Hume's guillotine is that going from an is to an ought requires your subjective perception wait, did I just argue that emotivism is BS, even in the secular lense? GEG Hume was a D tier philosopher, creating the most amoralistic philosophy ever, and im never gonna shut up about it (edited)
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/02/2025 09:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTg8NZkzKK8
Wise Disciple
Satan STILL Rules the Earth? If Jesus Rules... Why Is Satan Still I...
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/02/2025 11:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTcQwT4mFfo
Father Moses
Why God Chooses Damaged Men
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Мико⚜🐾 09/04/2025 05:50
https://youtu.be/HMg3Yr23PL4
The Voice of Faith
103 псалом - муз. П. Динева; хор КДАіС
Мико⚜🐾 09/04/2025 06:01
In the comments to a sermon about theft I was asked the following question: “Is it theft to use cracked programs, scans of books not purchased, music downloaded bypassing the rights holder, watching pirated films? What about ‘intellectual property’?” I decided to answer separately and thoroughly. I suppose that no, this is not theft. The modern secular world strives to abolish God’s commandments by declaring as normal that which is a sin from God’s point of view, and at the same time to introduce its own commandments, declaring as a sin that which God did not declare a sin. For example, from the viewpoint of secularist ideologues euthanasia, abortions, fornication and homosexuality are not a sin at all, but downloading a book or a program from the internet without paying the rights holders is a terrible sin, as are “homophobia”, “intolerance”, etc. If we return to the essence of the question, I would like to recall an interview with Kaspersky (the creator of the well-known antivirus program). When a journalist asked him how he feels about “pirates” stealing from him, Kaspersky replied: “I do not consider it theft, because when someone downloads an unlicensed version of my program, I do not lose any of my property” (I write from memory). Indeed, downloading so-called “pirate” software or content is not theft, since there is no taking away and appropriation of someone else’s property. All the fuss is about the claim that rights holders supposedly lose potential profit in the process. This is pure demagoguery. Deprivation of imaginary profit is roughly the same as deprivation of an imaginary golden unicorn. First, if there were no “pirates”, that would by no means lead to all users of pirated copies cheerfully handing over their money to the rights holders—the lion’s share of them would prefer not to use the product and not to pay. Rights holders would still not have received profits from them. Second, reasoning within the framework of “potential profit” one must admit that “pirates” ensure the dominance of certain software and thereby indirectly increase the profits of rights holders, because as a result of the dominance of certain products they are bought by those who would not have bought them if that dominance had not existed. I will explain with an example. If in the 1990s and 2000s the “pirates” had not ensured the dominance of the Windows OS, and instead of unlicensed Windows copies people unwilling to pay had been given free Linux, then as a result the number of people able to work on Linux in our country would have been so significant that at enterprises willing to pay for software they would have installed Linux, not Windows. So part of their profits corporations receive thanks to dominance ensured largely by “pirates.” I wrote this only to show the inconsistency of the demagoguery about the loss of imaginary potential profit. Everything is somewhat more complicated even with profit.
06:01
Now a couple of words about “intellectual property” in particular, about books (since I myself am a writer and know this better than others). If someone writes “in the drawer”, exclusively for himself, and those notes are stolen and published against his will, especially if someone profited, or published under another name, then yes—that can be called theft of intellectual property. But when an author publishes his work, that means that he himself makes it public, accessible to everyone. I am not an old man, but I remember the times when there was no internet and people massively went to libraries. One copy of a book in a library could easily be read by hundreds of people. Completely free. And if you take the library network across the whole country, that is tens of thousands of readers who did not pay a single kopeck to read a popular book. And no one called that “piracy”, no one fought with libraries as a system depriving rights holders of potential profit, no one argued that all those who read in libraries for free supposedly thereby rob the unfortunate authors. And then the internet appeared and in fact became an electronic library. Yes, it has other functions, but among them it is simply a very large electronic library. In essence, no difference. But then suddenly the rights holders stirred and the accusations began that “if you read on the internet and do not pay, then you are a thief!” Complete nonsense. It should be said that in the majority of cases the rights holder and the author of a work are different people. Often the rights holders are large operators who by various means obtained rights from authors in order to profit from their distribution. In my view the interests of rights holders and authors do not coincide. Put before any writer two options: either your book will be read by a thousand people who will pay for it, or it will be read by a hundred thousand people, of whom only a thousand will pay for it — and I do not know a single writer who would choose the first option. And I will not believe the writer who says that he would choose it. Any writer wishes that his work be read by as many people as possible and that it would influence as many minds as possible. But for the operators who hustled and became rights holders, only money matters, and they are ready to limit the freedom of dissemination of information just so as not to lose a “potential rouble.” I understand their interests, but when they start declaring the violation of their interests a sin against God, it provokes outrage in me. When this topic is discussed there always appear those who begin to say: “and if someone did that to you, you probably would not like it,” so I will say immediately that I have never fought against the so-called “pirate” distribution of my texts. Moreover, they are posted on my website and are available for free download. As for software, in recent years I have used only licensed software and I pay for those programs that are positioned as paid. That is, my position is not a defence of my unwillingness to pay. I pay the rights holders. But I do it because I want to and can, exclusively of my own free will, and not because other behaviour is allegedly a sin of theft. No, it is not. What outrages me is the hypocrisy of the secular world, which declares the killing of children and fornication to be normal, but at the same time declares downloading a text or program from the internet to be the most terrible sin—the theft of the “potential profits of corporations.” It is also worth adding that in the “Foundations of the Social Concept” the viewpoint of rights holders is set out. I consider this a mistake and hope that when the time comes to officially revise this text (and there is much to revise and correct there), this passage will be corrected. Divine Revelation does not need either deletions of anything or additions of anything like the “sin of stealing imaginary profit.”
`Fr. George Maksimov, ‘On Network Piracy’`
VikingTiger6 09/05/2025 04:15
part of why i dont like to pirate (i still do if i feel its justifyable) is because i put myself int he shoes of somone who made that media, if i spent time and money to make something to sell it and everyone pirated it id feel cheated because i put all this effort in and didnt get payment, so when i apply the golden rule i feel i cannot pirate alot of stuff
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/06/2025 14:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc3aYyTHoMM
Wise Disciple
The 5 LIES About Salvation | Pastor Reacts
Мико⚜🐾 09/07/2025 11:05
https://mkior.medium.com/johannes-hoornbeecks-brief-thoughts-on-the-muslim-accusation-of-biblical-corruption-c2064dcfda04
Johannes Hoornbeeck’s Brief Thoughts on the Muslim Accusation of ...
Extracted from Hoornbeeck’s currently untranslated Summa controversiarum religionis (1653), against the Muhammadans.
Мико⚜🐾 09/08/2025 06:43
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Мико⚜🐾 09/10/2025 21:33
https://youtu.be/NQgoHMXv-Ks
საქართველოს საპატრიარქო [Patriarchate Of Georgia]
Agnus Dei
Tzarevich Fox Forger I 09/11/2025 10:49
https://x.com/FoxForgerAlpha/status/1966091282377474052
Fox Forger (@FoxForgerAlpha)
I wasn't expecting the spiritual revival to be quite like this. Every atheist or "cultural Christian" I know who has an ounce of respect for the Church and its tradition is flocking there not because they discovered God is real but because they discovered demons are real.
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Мико⚜🐾 09/11/2025 11:24
Well, if there is evil
11:25
There must be good
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/12/2025 16:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H-OvlHzPwY
Father Moses
Priest Reacts To Charlie Kirk's Murder
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/15/2025 18:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKOB91zdKSM
Mike Stories
If You've Never Seen Demons Attack Watch This
18:14
Lot of people being brought to Christ following Charlie Kirk's death
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/15/2025 23:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW-RGTpxoWA
Wise Disciple
This is happening in real time!
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Мико⚜🐾 09/16/2025 08:33
https://youtu.be/6V-uZg3AW5M
Lavender Walks
Протоиерей Максим Никольский. Пропо...
Мико⚜🐾 09/19/2025 22:05
https://youtu.be/dg208EJxByk
Orthodox Wisdom
Who are the True Christian Patriots? - Met. Philaret of New York
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Lot of people being brought to Christ following Charlie Kirk's death
Мико⚜🐾 09/19/2025 22:07
mhmm many people went to Church for their first time in direct response to Kirk
Deleted User 09/19/2025 23:28
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Arcane BOT 09/19/2025 23:28
@Deleted User has reached level 8. GG!
Deleted User 09/19/2025 23:28
muh argument for why Jesus is God if the New Testament is an accurate historical account. read it and weep atheists
VikingTiger6 09/20/2025 02:18
But a heretic would just tell you that it was God working through him to change the water into wine, quotation of the many times Jesus claimed to be God is required to make a foolproof argument (edited)
VikingTiger6
But a heretic would just tell you that it was God working through him to change the water into wine, quotation of the many times Jesus claimed to be God is required to make a foolproof argument (edited)
Deleted User 09/20/2025 03:19
such a claim would be effectively unfalsifiable a.k.a. its ad hoc and it would also be denying the antecedent fallacy if they just stopped there, so it would be the heretic's burden of proof to justify that notion (edited)
03:23
so im not moving a muscle until the heretic elaborates
Deleted User
such a claim would be effectively unfalsifiable a.k.a. its ad hoc and it would also be denying the antecedent fallacy if they just stopped there, so it would be the heretic's burden of proof to justify that notion (edited)
Deleted User 09/20/2025 12:54
sorry to elaborate on the fallacy: i already justified by modus ponens that turning water into wine means Jesus must be God, and they are begging the question by denying the andecedent which is not a valid inference if p then q not p therefore not q this is not valid
VikingTiger6
But a heretic would just tell you that it was God working through him to change the water into wine, quotation of the many times Jesus claimed to be God is required to make a foolproof argument (edited)
Deleted User 09/20/2025 12:56
so basically if the heretic makes that argument, they are accepting my conditional statement, and denying the antecedent is insufficient refutation
12:58
my conditional was: if jesus turned water into wine, then he is God if the heretic denies the "if" statement (the antecedent) the cannot conslude that the "then" statement is false. it comes down to the truth tables. lemme write it out in a min cuz im unemployed asl.
13:03
p. not q. "not p" if p then q. T. F. F. T T. T. F. F F. F. T T F. T. T. T there are two critical rows here. ALL critical rows must have the conclusion ("not q") labeled as true in order for a deduction to be valid. one of the critical rows has "not q" as false, so that deduction is not valid. (edited)
13:04
sorry for the yapathon
Мико⚜🐾 09/24/2025 00:45
‘In the theological order the first truth is, of course, God. Omnipotent and omnipresent Creator of all, revealed to faith and in the experience of the faithful (and not contradicted by the reason of those who do not deny faith), God is the supreme end of all creation and Himself, unlike His creation, finds His end in Himself, everything created stands in relation to and dependence upon Him, Who alone depends upon nothing outside Himself, He has created the world that it might live in enjoyment of Him, and everything in the world is oriented toward this end, which however men may miss by a misuse of their freedom. The modern mentality cannot tolerate such a God. He is both too intimate—too “personal”, even too “human”—and too absolute, too uncompromising in His demands of us; and He makes Himself known only to humble faith—a fact bound to alienate the proud modern intelligence. A “new god” is clearly required by modern man, a god more closely fashioned after the pattern of such central modern concerns as science and business; it has, in fact, been an important intention of modern thought to provide such a god. This intention is clear already in Descartes, it is brought to fruition in the Deism of the Enlightenment, developed to its end in German idealism: the new god is not a Being but an idea, not revealed to faith and humility but constructed by the proud mind that still feels the need for “explanation” when it has lost its desire for salvation. This is the dead god of philosophers who require only a “first cause” to complete their systems, as well as of "positive thinkers" and other religious sophists who invent a god because they “need” him, and then think to “use” him at will. Whether “deist”, “idealist”, “pantheist”, or “immanentist”, all the modern gods are the same mental construct, fabricated by souls dead from the loss of faith in the true God. The atheist arguments against such a god are as irrefutable as they are irrelevant; for such a god is, in fact, the same as no god at all. Uninterested in man, powerless to act in the world (except to inspire a worldly “optimism”), he is a god considerably weaker than the men who invented him.’
`Hieromonk Seraphim Rose, Nihilism: The Root of the Revolution of the Modern Age, II.I (Liberalism)` (edited)
Randnew 09/24/2025 03:33
dude i'm starting to hate reading the bible
03:34
it took me 20 minutes to understand what the parable of the steward means
03:34
i don't understand why this is a new problem
03:34
i just want to stop reading it entirely because of how angry i get
03:34
but that would be bad for obviou reasons
03:34
It's like dude
03:35
Everytime I read something it feels like a word salad
03:35
Even on Twitter
03:35
Whenever I see a paragraph post on Twitter I just skip it because I can't read
Randnew 09/24/2025 03:44
I get angry because I'm supposed to understand something but I don't & it starts to feel like I'm just doing something entirely wrong but don't know what
03:45
& it's so hard to focus on anything because I'm always low energy the only 2 emotions I feel all day are sadness or nothingness
Randnew 09/24/2025 04:10
I need intercessions guys
04:10
really badly
Randnew
Whenever I see a paragraph post on Twitter I just skip it because I can't read
VikingTiger6 09/24/2025 04:30
maybe youre reading too much and need to slow down so you can understand the stuff your reading
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Randnew
& it's so hard to focus on anything because I'm always low energy the only 2 emotions I feel all day are sadness or nothingness
VikingTiger6 09/24/2025 04:31
thats relatable
VikingTiger6
maybe youre reading too much and need to slow down so you can understand the stuff your reading
serpente482 09/24/2025 07:30
I read 2 pages per day
Randnew 09/24/2025 08:27
I read like 1 paragraph per day
08:27
barely been reading anything
VikingTiger6
maybe youre reading too much and need to slow down so you can understand the stuff your reading
Randnew 09/24/2025 08:28
I barely read
08:28
2 years ago I was bingeing through the Old Testament
08:28
& last year bingeing throught the gospels
08:29
but now I just can't
08:29
schedule change means I have more free time to just work on stuff
08:31
I guess the whole point is you need to focus in order to pray
NRG Balbodane 09/24/2025 16:43
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/25/2025 17:35
I feel as though we're entering an era of Christian persecution in the west.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I feel as though we're entering an era of Christian persecution in the west.
Мико⚜🐾 09/25/2025 17:56
What makes you think that?
Мико⚜🐾
What makes you think that?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/25/2025 17:57
Charlie Kirk
17:58
He said that if there is one thing he wants to be known for it is his strength in his faith. The left try to spin the justification of killing him as "he was a nazi" but he was an incredibly Christ-like person in how he engaged others. They hated him for that. And now they're using his death to justify political violence.
17:58
Plus there have been leftist tweets going viral which you can sum up as "We need to get rid of Christianity in America".
17:59
I hope I'm just being schizo about this.
Zoraxe 09/27/2025 23:13
On a positive note, there's a been a large number of people, primarily youth, returning to church after seeing what happened from what I hear. People saw his message while also seeing how shallow their "friends" really were with their reaction, and they're giving it a chance. Some are even jumping into political activism as well with a good number trying to reform the local party leadership. However, I do hope that whoever does will keep Christ in through whatever positions are taken.
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Мико⚜🐾 09/28/2025 08:47
https://youtu.be/3_qVBGgv7ek favourite rendition of the Trisagion hymn
Sofia Orthodox Choir - Topic
Orthodox Liturgy: II. Holy Lord
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 17:27
I came up with a thought experiment in work I wanna know what my other brothers in Christ think.
17:28
So we know that willingly getting the mark of the beast is an unforgiveable sin. We also know that the mark of the beast is how you buy and sell. So unless you have it, you are probably going to run out of food and starve. If a Christian chose to willingly get the mark so that he could provide for other Christians and that was 100% his intention within his heart, do you think God would show mercy on him?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
So we know that willingly getting the mark of the beast is an unforgiveable sin. We also know that the mark of the beast is how you buy and sell. So unless you have it, you are probably going to run out of food and starve. If a Christian chose to willingly get the mark so that he could provide for other Christians and that was 100% his intention within his heart, do you think God would show mercy on him?
serpente482 09/29/2025 18:05
what mark of the beast you are referring to
serpente482
what mark of the beast you are referring to
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 18:05
Revelation
serpente482 09/29/2025 18:06
i would advise against taking everything literal in revelation
18:06
same as with Genesis
18:07
thats how you get stuff like the rapture and creationism
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 18:11
It's a thought experiment anyway.
18:11
Also the "rapture" isn't anywhere in the Bible anyway. (edited)
18:12
Jehovos made that shit up
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
So we know that willingly getting the mark of the beast is an unforgiveable sin. We also know that the mark of the beast is how you buy and sell. So unless you have it, you are probably going to run out of food and starve. If a Christian chose to willingly get the mark so that he could provide for other Christians and that was 100% his intention within his heart, do you think God would show mercy on him?
Мико⚜🐾 09/29/2025 18:39
I don’t think many Christians historically, including the most erudite theologians, have interpreted the mark of the beast to be a literal mark that you place on your forehead or hand
18:39
As times have changed, people’s speculations of what it will be have
18:40
But a literal reading is more recent, and is a consequence of Protestant Fundamentalism which happened amongst the low church sects in America in the 1800s, the idea they had that everything in scripture ought to be taken as wholly literal, and not symbol (except when it comes to the Eucharist geg) (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
As times have changed, people’s speculations of what it will be have
Мико⚜🐾 09/29/2025 18:41
Some today suggest that it will have something to do with the credit card or banking system
18:42
A barcode
18:42
Digital ID
18:42
Just know that it will be apparent to the elect what it is
Мико⚜🐾
But a literal reading is more recent, and is a consequence of Protestant Fundamentalism which happened amongst the low church sects in America in the 1800s, the idea they had that everything in scripture ought to be taken as wholly literal, and not symbol (except when it comes to the Eucharist geg) (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 18:42
Regardless my original question still remains.
Мико⚜🐾 09/29/2025 18:43
Whether someone could be forgiven?
18:43
Well, it depends on how you interpret what scripture says on this
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 18:43
If a Christian willingly got "the mark" so that they could buy foods for other believers who rejected the mark so that their lives may not be so difficult, would God still show them mercy?
Мико⚜🐾 09/29/2025 18:43
It says that those who take it would certainly be damned
18:43
And would be omitted from the Book of Life
18:44
Within scripture itself, there is nothing that would dispel this interpretation And in tradition or historical intepretaton, it would seem that they held to this being literal generally (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
If a Christian willingly got "the mark" so that they could buy foods for other believers who rejected the mark so that their lives may not be so difficult, would God still show them mercy?
Мико⚜🐾 09/29/2025 18:45
It’s hard to say
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 18:45
Yeah that's what I mean.
18:45
It crossed my mind today.
18:46
If God saw this hypothetical person's heart and knew their primary reason for doing this was to make the lives of other Christians easier by providing for them during this end time, would he show them mercy despite them willingly accepting the mark? (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
But a literal reading is more recent, and is a consequence of Protestant Fundamentalism which happened amongst the low church sects in America in the 1800s, the idea they had that everything in scripture ought to be taken as wholly literal, and not symbol (except when it comes to the Eucharist geg) (edited)
serpente482 09/29/2025 18:47
and baptism
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18:47
i went to an evangelical baptism yesterday
18:48
it was nice
18:48
like a concert
Мико⚜🐾 09/29/2025 18:48
did they do it in the name of the Trinity at least?
serpente482 09/29/2025 18:48
when their pastor spoke he said it was symbolic for them
Мико⚜🐾
did they do it in the name of the Trinity at least?
serpente482 09/29/2025 18:48
yes
18:48
in a pool of water
Мико⚜🐾 09/29/2025 18:48
Then its at least valid
serpente482 09/29/2025 18:48
yeah
Мико⚜🐾 09/29/2025 18:48
As goofy as the service itself sounds unfortunately
serpente482 09/29/2025 18:48
but they believe they have to consent for the baptism
18:49
there was an exorthodox romanian there
Мико⚜🐾 09/29/2025 18:49
God forbid you’re born a retard
18:49
How will you get baptism then
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If you have to accept grace for it to be conferred upon you
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 18:50
Well in my church there's like a uhh... baptism camp. I dunno how standardized that is but to my understanding, it's about training the person so that they know what the whole ceremony entails.
serpente482 09/29/2025 18:50
they dont think it gives grace
18:50
thats the problem
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Well in my church there's like a uhh... baptism camp. I dunno how standardized that is but to my understanding, it's about training the person so that they know what the whole ceremony entails.
serpente482 09/29/2025 18:50
if only they baptized babies and did that for the Eucharist
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 18:50
I just missed their last baptism camp so I'm waiting for when the next one comes around.
serpente482
if only they baptized babies and did that for the Eucharist
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 18:51
Well obviously my church doesn't do bapitism camps for the babies lol. But I think the parents do have to sit through a session so they know what it entails. (edited)
serpente482 09/29/2025 18:53
oh
18:53
these evangelicals were against baby baptism
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 18:53
?
18:53
Well my church isn't against that.
18:53
That's kind of silly imo.
serpente482 09/29/2025 18:53
you are anglican right?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 18:53
Evangelist.
serpente482 09/29/2025 18:54
what kind
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 18:54
What do you mean, what kind?
18:54
There's different types of Evangelists now?
serpente482 09/29/2025 18:54
yeah?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 18:55
I'm protestant, you already know that.
18:55
So Protestant Evangelist.
serpente482 09/29/2025 18:55
protestant is where evangelists are engloved aswell
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
So Protestant Evangelist.
serpente482 09/29/2025 18:56
but theres like baptist methodist, presbyatarean and stufff like that
18:56
arent those all evangelicals
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 18:56
I dunno. I'm not too familiar with the technicalities of all the different denoms.
18:56
Just what makes up Catholicism, Orthodoxy and my own sec of Protestantism which is Evangelist.
18:57
I also do not believe that Catholicism, Orthodoxy or the primary Protestant secs are "wrong".
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Because we all still hold to the same important creeds and tenants of the faith.
18:59
We believe in baptism, the Eucharist, repentance, have a Liturgy and most importantly, believe Jesus is God and who died for us.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
We believe in baptism, the Eucharist, repentance, have a Liturgy and most importantly, believe Jesus is God and who died for us.
serpente482 09/29/2025 19:00
they dont believe in the eucharist doe xd
19:01
like i think they take the bread but for them is bread
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 19:01
Who's they.
19:02
Because my church has a eucharist and it is understood that the bread and wine is not symbolic but literal.
19:02
Kinda feels like you're very nitpicky when it comes to Protestantism. Come to Wales and I'll invite you to a service or two at my church. I'm sure you'll like it.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Who's they.
serpente482 09/29/2025 19:07
some evangelicals
19:07
like the ones im friends with
Мико⚜🐾 09/29/2025 19:07
Well, he is positing a valid criticism of Evangelicalism generally speaking
serpente482 09/29/2025 19:07
@VikingTiger6 also doesnt believe
Мико⚜🐾 09/29/2025 19:07
it is well known that most of them reject the real presence and deny that baptism confers salvific grace, (edited)
19:08
the latter of which arose as a result of the novel belief of the Calvinists that because of the extent of total depravity, Man needs to be regenerated prior to baptism.
19:09
But yeah, of course not all of them believe this
serpente482
@VikingTiger6 also doesnt believe
VikingTiger6 09/29/2025 19:09
What?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 19:09
A'ight well me and my church family do.
19:09
Am I a good Protestant now?
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Wait why am I seek validation from a world that crucified a perfect man.
serpente482
@VikingTiger6 also doesnt believe
VikingTiger6 09/29/2025 19:10
I believe in Christ's presence in the echarist
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 19:10
I am right in Jesus' eyes, I hope. And that is all that matters.
VikingTiger6 09/29/2025 19:10
Just don't believe the whole bread literally is flesh thing
VikingTiger6
Just don't believe the whole bread literally is flesh thing
serpente482 09/29/2025 19:14
but
19:14
thats what the presence means
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VikingTiger6
I believe in Christ's presence in the echarist
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 19:22
Jesus is always present. So how then is him being "present" at the Eucharist different?
19:22
If you mean he simply observes the Eucharist then that implies he isn't present for the rest of mass.
19:24
Also I am curious to know
19:24
@serpente482 what would be your argument for someone to to choose the catholic denomination and @Мико⚜🐾 what would be your argument for someone to choose orthodoxy?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 19:33
Applying the same logic to myself, my argument is this: I don't believe there is any necessarily wrong way to follow Christ so long as your steps alight with what is made clear in the Bible and you are wise in your walk by confiding with others in faith (which is to say false denoms like JW and Mormonism are clearly incorrect ways to follow Jesus). My own denomination is Evangelist simply because, of the various things spoken of in the Bible, being "reborn", having relationship with Christ and proclaiming the gospel have been the most important things in my walk in faith. I believe fully in the character of Christ as spoken of in the gospels and I know that faith in Him is what bears new fruits in my own life. And it is that faith in Christ as well as my humbleness before Him that assures me I am on the right path. (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@serpente482 what would be your argument for someone to to choose the catholic denomination and @Мико⚜🐾 what would be your argument for someone to choose orthodoxy?
serpente482 09/29/2025 21:13
Both have the rightfull claims to call themselves Apostolic, but the Catholic one has something the Orthodox will and wont have
21:13
The seat of Saint Peter
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The rock
21:14
I also believe its a matter of time Orthodox Church (and all other churches) submit to Rome
21:15
Also the Catholic Church is the biggest, most influential Church and unlike the Orthodox, we are one
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 21:16
When I said make your case I didn't say "shit on the other denoms as hard as you can"
serpente482 09/29/2025 21:16
The case for anyone searching denoms would be between Catholic and Orthodox
21:17
Because we are the Apostolic churches
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 21:17
Orthodoxy predates Catholicism tho if you really wanna play this "my team is better" game.
serpente482 09/29/2025 21:18
If you are someone who doesnt know the Bible or God, any Church will probably help you and probably be enough
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Orthodoxy predates Catholicism tho if you really wanna play this "my team is better" game.
serpente482 09/29/2025 21:18
??????
21:18
Catholicism and Orthodoxy were both the early Catholic Church
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Until the schism
21:19
Idk where you got that "predates" bullshit
21:20
Catholicism and Orthodoxy is almost the same
21:21
Only difference is the Pope and Patriarchs and stuff like Holy Spirit comes from the Son and the Father and only the Father
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I dont think someone would consider the Filoque something definitive to search for the True Church
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If you seek the Truth only the Catholic and Orthodox Church claim they have it
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Post-reformation man made churches only have interpretations
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Too different to be considered
21:24
If they all claim the Bible is enough to learn the Truth but no one who believes in the same principle agrees on what the Truth is then the principle is mistaken
21:25
Because the Truth is one
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So it all comes to which Church you consider the Holy Spirit guides the most
21:26
The Catholic or the Orthodox
21:27
You could also say its the Coptic Church
21:28
I guess
21:28
But if you havent heard of them it probably means something
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I hope
21:28
Or else we are all mistaken and God help us all
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@serpente482 what would be your argument for someone to to choose the catholic denomination and @Мико⚜🐾 what would be your argument for someone to choose orthodoxy?
Мико⚜🐾 09/29/2025 21:28
Depends on who I’m talking to
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 21:34
Purgatory is a Catholic idea, right?
21:34
It's not present in Orthodoxy?
21:34
And where does the idea of Purgatory come from exactly?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Purgatory is a Catholic idea, right?
serpente482 09/29/2025 21:42
Purgatory is a Catholic word
21:42
Orthodox believe in their own purgatory which has different interpretation than the Catholic but is basically talking about the same
21:43
It comes from the idea of dying with unrepented sins
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And that nothing impure enters Heaven
21:43
Purgatory was demonized by the fat german
serpente482
It comes from the idea of dying with unrepented sins
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 21:45
I am not familiar with this concept in scripture.
21:46
So, what is purgatory supposed to be a place for the Godly who haven't repented of their sins? What exactly is the purpose of purgatory and where is purgatory mentioned in scripture?
21:47
I would assume it's a place not for atheists or anyone who outright rejected Christ in life.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
So, what is purgatory supposed to be a place for the Godly who haven't repented of their sins? What exactly is the purpose of purgatory and where is purgatory mentioned in scripture?
serpente482 09/29/2025 21:50
https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/how-to-explain-purgatory-to-protestants-1037
How to Explain Purgatory to Protestants | EWTN
EWTN is a global, Catholic Television, Catholic Radio, and Catholic News Network that provides catholic programming and news coverage from around the world.
21:51
2 Maccabes 12, people pray for the deceased
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You dont have this book
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Because ((((someone)))))
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Said he knew better
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 21:54
Maccabes? The apocrypha?
21:55
It's from the apocrypha, that explains it.
serpente482
https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/how-to-explain-purgatory-to-protestants-1037
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 21:57
Opening up with a strawman is a sure-fire way to make your case.
21:57
@Мико⚜🐾 Can you explain "purgatory", as it is seen in Orthodoxy?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
It's from the apocrypha, that explains it.
serpente482 09/29/2025 21:58
And what is the apocrypha
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Opening up with a strawman is a sure-fire way to make your case.
serpente482 09/29/2025 21:58
Strawman?
21:58
Idk why you are so aggressive
serpente482
And what is the apocrypha
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 21:59
A collection of books which can best be described as "take with a pinch of salt". Like there are books in there which talk about Jesus childhood for example.
serpente482
Idk why you are so aggressive
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 21:59
I'm not being aggresive I'm asking you honestly and your response was an article which opens up with a sarcastic strawman.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
A collection of books which can best be described as "take with a pinch of salt". Like there are books in there which talk about Jesus childhood for example.
serpente482 09/29/2025 21:59
And what would those books be and why would we have to take them with a pinch of salt
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I'm not being aggresive I'm asking you honestly and your response was an article which opens up with a sarcastic strawman.
serpente482 09/29/2025 22:00
Read it or not read it
22:00
The article has plenty of stuff you might answer
22:00
I havent even read it fully
22:00
It has more than i know and i can give you personally
serpente482
And what would those books be and why would we have to take them with a pinch of salt
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 22:01
I haven't properly looked into the apocrypha but it is my understanding that they weren't made canon due to either errors or lack of manuscriptures to validate them.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I haven't properly looked into the apocrypha but it is my understanding that they weren't made canon due to either errors or lack of manuscriptures to validate them.
serpente482 09/29/2025 22:01
The problem is that
22:01
They were made cannon
22:02
The only ones who didnt have those books in their Bible were the jews post Jesus
22:02
To believe there is an apocrypha is to believe there is no New Testament cannon
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 Can you explain "purgatory", as it is seen in Orthodoxy?
Мико⚜🐾 09/29/2025 22:03
I have an excerpt from Metropolitan Makariy Bulgakov that breaks down some of the differences and disagreements we would have with common ideas of purgatory and the dogmatic boundaries set by Catholics
serpente482 09/29/2025 22:03
Because the cannon you use (while having books Luther said were apocrypha aswell like Revelations for example) was made in the same Councils as the ones who included those books
Мико⚜🐾 09/29/2025 22:06
The doctrine of the Roman Church on Purgatory has some resemblance to the doctrine of the Orthodox Church on the possibility for some sinners to be released from the bonds of Hades by the prayers of the living, although it has also some difference. To properly judge between the one and the other one must understand the teaching as set forth by the Roman theologians themselves. I. They distinguish in the doctrine of Purgatory two parts: the ‘essential part’, or what has been decreed and taught by their church as dogma, and the inconsequential, that is to say, what has not been fixed by their Church and forms the object of theological opinions. The first part refers only to two points: a) there is a purgatory, that is to say a place or state of atonement (status expiationis) in which the souls of those who died without having received absolution for even slight faults, or even after obtaining absolution for their sins, but without enduring in this life the temporal punishment for sins, suffer torment to satisfy Divine Justice, until they have been purified by these torments and have become worthy of eternal felicity. b) the souls of those in Purgatory are in great need of prayer to aid them, such as alms, and especially the Bloodless Sacrifice. As regards the non-essential teaching relates the solution of the following questions: a) Is Purgatory a specific place or not, and if so, where is it? Are the sufferings of the souls in the purgatorial fire real or metaphorical? b) How long are souls in purgatory? How are they aided by the prayers of the Church? (2) II .— Stopping our thoughts on the essential part of the Roman doctrine concerning Purgatory, we find some resemblance to that of the Orthodox Church on the prayers for the dead, and at the same time some differences. 1) There is similarity in the fundamental idea. Indeed, the Orthodox Church teaches, like that of Rome: a) that the souls of some of the dead, namely those who died in faith and repentance, but without having had time to bring in life fruit worthy of repentance, and therefore, did not manage to receive from God complete forgiveness of their sins and be purified, undergo torments until they are deemed worthy of forgiveness and cleansed; b) that in such cases the souls of the dead are benefited by prayers for them from those of their brothers in Christ who are still living, their works of charity, and especially the Offering of the Bloodless Sacrifice. 2. The differences, in particular, are: a) According to the doctrine of the Orthodox Church the aforesaid souls of the dead are suffering because, although they repented before death, they have not had time to bring forth fruits worthy of repentance, and therefore to deserve God’s complete forgiveness of their sins, and, thus, to actually be purified, and to overcome the natural consequences of sin, punishment; whereas, according to the doctrine of the Church of Rome, the souls of the dead suffer in Purgatory, strictly because they have not suffered here below the temporal punishment needed for sins in satisfaction of Divine Justice; b) According to the Orthodox doctrine, these souls are purified of sins and deserve God’s forgiveness, not by themselves and of their own suffering but by the prayers of the Church and by the power of the Bloodless Sacrifice; with these same prayers not only benefiting the souls suffering, but mitigating their position, freeing them from the torment , whereas, according doctrine of the Roman Church, it is by their same suffering that souls are purified in Purgatory and thus Divine Justice is satisfied, and the prayers of the Church serve only to give them some relief in this condition.
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22:07
3. Moreover, although the differences between the Roman doctrine of Purgatory and the Orthodox doctrine of prayer for the dead are over these particulars, nevertheless, these are important, and we cannot accept the differences. For upon these differences we find both false things and a reversal of fundamental dogma: a) the first idea is false, as we have already seen, that is, that a sinner who repents before dying should still bring a kind of satisfaction to divine justice for his sins undergoing some temporal punishment for this purpose, and that in Purgatory, for lack of being able to suffer here below. Complete satisfaction to Divine Justice, the same superabundant satisfaction, was Presented once and for all, for all sinners, through Jesus Christ Our Saviour, Who took upon Himself the sins of the world and all punishment for sin; and, to obtain complete forgiveness of God and freedom from all punishment of sin, sinners have to appropriate the merits of the Redeemer, that is to say, believe in Him, truly repent of their sins, bring forth fruits worthy of repentance, i.e., good deeds. Consequently, if there are sinners who, having repented before they died, have, despite this, torments to endure after death, it is only because they do not have time to fully appropriate the merits of the Saviour, either because of the weakness of their faith in Him or by an effect of the failure of their repentance, and mainly because they did not bear fruits worthy of repentance, and were not actually purified from sin, as the Orthodox Church teaches. b) it is no less a misconception that sinners would be purified in Purgatory and satisfy divine justice by their own torments. In whatever sense the fire of Purgatory is understood, either literally or in a figurative sense, in none of these senses can we ascribe this to God. If you attach a literal meaning to the fire, then, the fire by its very nature is incapable of purifying a soul which is a simple and immaterial spiritual essence. If you attach a figurative meaning, that is to say, the fire is an inner torment of the soul due to its consciousness of its past sins and the deep contrition for them, then, in that case, this cannot purify the soul in the life beyond the grave, because in the life after death there is no longer a place for repentance, nor for merit or any personal self-correction as Roman Catholics believe. And as long as the soul remains in sin, not purified and renewed, until then, whatever it may have to endure, it can in no way satisfy by its own suffering the Divine Justice and overcome these inevitable consequences of sin. c) If the souls of some of the dead suffer in Purgatory, even repentant sinners must necessarily suffer a temporal punishment for sin in satisfaction to Divine Justice, and, if the souls suffering in Purgatory are truly cleansed and meet their obligation to Divine Justice, then, the question is, “What is the point of prayers and the general intercession of the Church in their favour?” The souls in Purgatory necessarily have to suffer until they have fulfilled the desired satisfaction and have been purified by suffering; now, if the prayers of the Church only weaken and alleviate that suffering, instead of shortening the period of time that souls must pass in Purgatory, they (the prayers) prolong it and therefore are less useful than harmful. Does this not, of course, overturn the fundamental idea of the dogma of the prayers for the dead?
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III. – If we now turn our attention to the non-essential part of the Roman doctrine concerning Purgatory, being theological opinions we find that it differs much more from the doctrine of the Orthodox Church on prayer for the dead, though on issues of little importance judging by their intimate meaning. Let us mention the two most remarkable: 1) The Orthodox Church teaches there is no intermediate class after death between those who are saved and go to heaven, and those who are condemned, and go to Hades; there is not a particular intermediate place where souls go who did penance before death and are subject to the prayers of the Church; all those souls go to Hades, where they can only be freed by its prayers. Most Roman theologians consider Purgatory as a special intermediary place between heaven and hell, and sometimes placed in the vicinity thereof, in the interior of the earth, sometimes close to that one, sometimes in the air. There are others, however, who see in purgatory, not a place apart, but a particular state of souls, and recognize that the souls in this state can undergo their temporal punishment and be purified even where are contained those condemned to eternal punishment (that is to say, to hell); thus, there can be found in the same prison inmates sentenced to temporary imprisonment and prisoners condemned forever. 2) The Orthodox Church strongly rejects the teaching of a Purgatorial fire, in the truest sense of the word, which cleanses the soul. A great number of Roman theologians consider this fire as real and material (this being the almost universal belief of the laity of the Roman confession), and to garner proof of their teaching they attempt to collect from the Holy Scriptures and from the writings of the ancient Doctors of the Church references that seem to refer to such a fire. Others, however, understand the fire of Purgatory in a figurative sense, for spiritual torment, and therefore cite in their treaties on the subject similar evidence either from the word of God, or the writings of the Fathers, adding that the ancient Doctors themselves were of varied opinions on the fire). It would therefore be superfluous even to refute the evidence given. It is finally noted that in general their church has not determined precisely what the fire of Purgatory is, if it is material or not, and therefore it does not belong to faith to understand it in one way or another. We will say nothing of other opinions concerning Purgatory, for example, how long a soul remains, and if they are all suffer the same space of time for the same penalties; what penalties they face; if they are more stringent than those of the present life and lighter than those of hell; if souls in purgatory pray for themselves and for us who are still in this world; if they give themselves up to the practice of good works, etc., etc. All these opinions have little value even to theologians of Rome and few seriously engaged themselves in answering them.
`Metropolitan Macarius Bulgakov` (edited)
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He explains it better than I do
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
It's not present in Orthodoxy?
Мико⚜🐾 09/29/2025 22:11
broadly speaking it is, but we disagree on several matters w/ the Catholics on the topic
Мико⚜🐾
broadly speaking it is, but we disagree on several matters w/ the Catholics on the topic
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 09/29/2025 22:14
Diolch yn fawr
22:15
I got more questions but I'll save them for another day.
22:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7umE5uqpxPs
Wes Huff
Why do Catholics and Protestants have different books in their Bibles?
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Huff's whole thing is about studying the history of the Bible so I'm more inclined to consider his insights on a topic like this.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7umE5uqpxPs
serpente482 09/29/2025 22:41
Too late to watch
22:42
Hope he mentions Jewish Canon became official in the second century and has no importance for christians
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serpente482
They were made cannon
VikingTiger6 09/29/2025 23:28
but many of these books were written during a time where there were no prophets in israel, how can they be inspired?
VikingTiger6 09/29/2025 23:40
i thought all scripture was breathed out by God, could it be that maccabees is merely a history?
VikingTiger6
but many of these books were written during a time where there were no prophets in israel, how can they be inspired?
Мико⚜🐾 09/30/2025 04:12
Because something doesn’t need to be written by a Prophet of God in order to be divinely inspired according to us and Early Christians?
04:13
This is an arbitrary criteria that not even all books of the Old Testament satisfy.
Мико⚜🐾
This is an arbitrary criteria that not even all books of the Old Testament satisfy.
Мико⚜🐾 09/30/2025 04:15
Joshua, Judges, Ruth, 1 and 2 Samuel, 1 and 2 Kings, 1 and 2 Chronicles (historical books), Esther (historical book) and Job are all anonymously authored formally, and weren’t written by Prophets. (edited)
04:16
Ecclesiastes is attributed to King Solomon traditionally, but this book too is considered to have anonymous authorship by modernist scholarship.
Мико⚜🐾
This is an arbitrary criteria that not even all books of the Old Testament satisfy.
Мико⚜🐾 09/30/2025 04:17
It does seem like a good one at first, until you realise that this is the case.
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Furthermore, St. John didn’t write John, the account was dictated to his disciple. This is well-known. The same thing is said of Hebrews, whose authorship is doubted due to the difference of Greek in the epistle itself as opposed to what is in the other epistles he wrote. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Because something doesn’t need to be written by a Prophet of God in order to be divinely inspired according to us and Early Christians?
Мико⚜🐾 09/30/2025 04:20
We think that Church tradition, the councils, the dogmatic documents & confessions of the Church also bear divine inspiration too.
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04:21
The Tome of Leo & the Catechism of St. Peter Mohyla would be 2 examples for the Orthodox.
VikingTiger6
but many of these books were written during a time where there were no prophets in israel, how can they be inspired?
serpente482 09/30/2025 07:03
Because Jesus used them and his Church said so
serpente482
Because Jesus used them and his Church said so
VikingTiger6 09/30/2025 16:42
Jesus used them?
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You think Jesus, a Jew from the levant was raised on the Alexandria Canon?
Мико⚜🐾 09/30/2025 16:46
There was no agreement on the biblical canon during Christ’s time
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Different sects held to different amounts of books being divinely inspired
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Some also insisted on use of Hebrew, others were fine with the Septuagint translation, St. Paul and Luke being amongst those. (edited)
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Matthew used both a proto-MT and the Septuagint text.
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It is definitely correct for Serpente to state that the early Fathers universally used the Greek text or translations based off of it rather than the Hebrew. This remained to be the case until St. Jerome’s compilation of the Latin Vulgate at the behest of Pope St. Damasus (edited)
VikingTiger6 09/30/2025 16:49
Yea but he claims Jesus used it
Мико⚜🐾 09/30/2025 16:49
He used the Old Latin, Greek & Hebrew texts, and chose the preferred reading for translation
VikingTiger6
Yea but he claims Jesus used it
Мико⚜🐾 09/30/2025 16:49
The Apostles definitely did, as for Christ, it is likely that He used it rather than the MT
VikingTiger6 09/30/2025 16:49
I'm aware some of the apocrypha were referenced in the bible, but the bible mentions many secular books and even some pagan ones
Мико⚜🐾 09/30/2025 16:49
Given that none of the people, even many of the Jews, would have been able to read Hebrew at this time
VikingTiger6 09/30/2025 16:50
Itd make sense the apostles used the septuagint as it was the only Greek bible at the time
VikingTiger6
I'm aware some of the apocrypha were referenced in the bible, but the bible mentions many secular books and even some pagan ones
Мико⚜🐾 09/30/2025 16:50
The difference between the references to these apocryphal books is that one is claimed by Apostle Jude to have been written by Enoch, the others are quoted in passing
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In a Biblical or patristic context, merely quoting a work and saying “It is written” implies two different things
Мико⚜🐾
Given that none of the people, even many of the Jews, would have been able to read Hebrew at this time
VikingTiger6 09/30/2025 16:54
but the jews of Jesus's time were educated in hebrew, its known that from 6-12 they were taught to memorize the first 5 books in hebrew, yea sure many used aramaic in personal conversation but its know that the ones in the levant atleast were raised with hebrew for religious study (edited)
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i know the alexandrian ones spoke greek mainly and maybe even in religious study since they wrote the Septuagint
VikingTiger6
I'm aware some of the apocrypha were referenced in the bible, but the bible mentions many secular books and even some pagan ones
serpente482 09/30/2025 17:44
Why would they use that? Didnt they know their own cannon?
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These evil catholics twisting the words since the beginning
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Luther came to stop the heresies started by the apostles
Мико⚜🐾 10/01/2025 19:40
https://youtu.be/YWNwu7L0K60
Orthodox Loner
Fornication and Apostasy: The Warning of St. Seraphim (Sobolev)
Мико⚜🐾 10/02/2025 17:41
‘Christ speaks of His Blood as that which is being poured out. There are yet hours until the sufferings of the Cross… But His Blood is already being shed and His body is already being broken, because the sufferings of the Saviour have already begun. Betrayal, the faint-heartedness of the disciples, the unjust trial, the scourging, the mockeries heaped upon Him—all this is already suffering, all this is already Blood that is being shed. There is the Cross, and there is the Golgotha-road to the place of suffering. And although the suffering of the crucifixion is torment in the highest degree, incomparable with anything, and it is precisely on the Cross that the Lord accomplishes our salvation, yet even the days that precede Golgotha, and especially the hours, are the sufferings of the God-Man for the human race.’
`Abp. Sylvester Stoychev, Sermon on Maundy Thursday (2025)` (edited)
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Мико⚜🐾
‘Christ speaks of His Blood as that which is being poured out. There are yet hours until the sufferings of the Cross… But His Blood is already being shed and His body is already being broken, because the sufferings of the Saviour have already begun. Betrayal, the faint-heartedness of the disciples, the unjust trial, the scourging, the mockeries heaped upon Him—all this is already suffering, all this is already Blood that is being shed. There is the Cross, and there is the Golgotha-road to the place of suffering. And although the suffering of the crucifixion is torment in the highest degree, incomparable with anything, and it is precisely on the Cross that the Lord accomplishes our salvation, yet even the days that precede Golgotha, and especially the hours, are the sufferings of the God-Man for the human race.’
`Abp. Sylvester Stoychev, Sermon on Maundy Thursday (2025)` (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/02/2025 22:19
Lord Jesus, lamb of God. Who takes away our sins and cleanses us anew. Have mercy on us.
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I feel as though I am quite strong in my faith. I am bold about it in my personal life and I am fairly diligent to ensure I don't skip out on church, prayer or reading scripture. But I always feel as though I'm not crucified enough in Christ. As if no matter how many times I repent to Him in my nightly prayers, part of me is still fastened to the world.
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gng a new argument of mine just dropped
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Мико⚜🐾 10/04/2025 18:41
‘You will know this, and very easily, by understanding that in Adam we became communicants in his transgression. But not only that, those things committed by him also brought judgement having spread the curse to all, and in a certain manner allotted the wrath to his offspring. Therefore the Only Begotten descended to the nature of man, and dwelt among us, and submitted himself to God and the Father. For he became obedient unto death, and washed away the crime of his desertion from Adam, and offered the savour of his obedience, as for all together and individually, to God and the Father, and through him we are saved: of which Paul is a witness, who wrote thus: “Therefore, as through the offense of one upon all men into condemnation, so also through the righteousness of one upon all into justification of life.” (Romans 5.18)’
`St. Cyril of Alexandria, ‘On Worship in Spirit and Truth’, Book 11 (PG 68.757)`
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/09/2025 17:11
I had a realisation today:
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All the branches of paganism are at their core, an avoidance of suffering. Where as the Christian message is fundamentally "you will suffer for your faith".
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/09/2025 17:26
I also think I found my answer the question of free will in the new earth.
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Like I said, I'm in my own head all the time
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My idea is this: How can free will operate in the new earth if free will itself can cause sin? My answer is: There will be no free will. The reason we have free will now is so that our relationship with God can be genuine. Because we choose to follow Him despite the fact we live in a world where we are inclined towards sin. That is our, how do you say, expression of our desire to be one of God's children. Ergo at that point, free will would no longer be necessary on the new earth. (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
My idea is this: How can free will operate in the new earth if free will itself can cause sin? My answer is: There will be no free will. The reason we have free will now is so that our relationship with God can be genuine. Because we choose to follow Him despite the fact we live in a world where we are inclined towards sin. That is our, how do you say, expression of our desire to be one of God's children. Ergo at that point, free will would no longer be necessary on the new earth. (edited)
Deleted User 10/11/2025 03:35
one problem i see with this is that satan had the free will to disobey God and become a fallen angel. free will was not a necessity then either. free will is either an illusion (as in, it is merely the consequent of God's determinism) or it is genuine, meaning that God willingly lets us have the capacity to make our own decisions, which not only doesnt have to be limited to ourselves, but also doesn't need to have a justified reason this notion is justified through the following argument: God is a being whom is at a maximum state i.e. he is above all and, by definition, cannot achieve a higher state, otherwise he would not be God. From this, God's creation is not justified through any means because "for his own glory" would contradict the previous axioms pertaining to the agency of God. Therefore, God's actions need not just cause. (edited)
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but WILL free will exist in the new Earth? My answer is that it doesn't matter. We made it and get to enjoy God's glory forever and I therefore care not if I get to make my own choices.
Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2025 08:31
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but WILL free will exist in the new Earth? My answer is that it doesn't matter. We made it and get to enjoy God's glory forever and I therefore care not if I get to make my own choices.
serpente482 10/11/2025 11:16
"free will" exists but because you were purged of your sins and defects under God your will will allign with that of God
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i think
Мико⚜🐾
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Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:11
lobotomy
serpente482
"free will" exists but because you were purged of your sins and defects under God your will will allign with that of God
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:13
some ppl could argue that its ultimately not your choice and therefore not free will then. if its ultimately determined by another entity then its not free will and this scenario you described sounds orchestrated from God. although God's determinism and free will are not mutually exclusive... (edited)
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some ppl could argue that its ultimately not your choice and therefore not free will then. if its ultimately determined by another entity then its not free will and this scenario you described sounds orchestrated from God. although God's determinism and free will are not mutually exclusive... (edited)
serpente482 10/11/2025 12:17
think it like you have a math assignement you know exactly what to do and you have to solve it in the board, you know the answer so you just do it correctly and the teacher congratulates you. The only possible reason you would have to not solve it correctly is to challenge the teacher but no one would get into that class if they were to challenge the teacher because she is the best teacher ever
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but i think that might depend on your beliefs towards being perfect if God is with you
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which i think protestants dont believe because they called Mary a sinner
serpente482
think it like you have a math assignement you know exactly what to do and you have to solve it in the board, you know the answer so you just do it correctly and the teacher congratulates you. The only possible reason you would have to not solve it correctly is to challenge the teacher but no one would get into that class if they were to challenge the teacher because she is the best teacher ever
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:19
i just got up gng i see some problems with this analogy but i get your general idea
serpente482
which i think protestants dont believe because they called Mary a sinner
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:19
because we dont think any human was sinless o algo
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because we dont think any human was sinless o algo
serpente482 10/11/2025 12:20
Mary is not any human
Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2025 12:20
To have free will is to have the capacity to align your will with the highest good, that is God, or to diverge from that good
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And into sin
serpente482
Mary is not any human
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:20
well we dont believe the catholic premise on that either
Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2025 12:20
Serpente does, he is a Catholic
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well we dont believe the catholic premise on that either
serpente482 10/11/2025 12:20
cuz of wanting to be different
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Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2025 12:20
As for me (Orthodox), it is a theological opinion (edited)
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Some saints believed in it, some did not
serpente482 10/11/2025 12:21
if Jesus is 100% at cellular level aswell
Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2025 12:21
It is left up to opinion However, one cannot believe Mary committed personal sin
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Venial or mortal
serpente482 10/11/2025 12:21
then the ovul from which he was conceived is also God
serpente482
if Jesus is 100% at cellular level aswell
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:21
something something he was fully man and fully God
Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2025 12:22
For us, she only had the guilt for original sin
serpente482 10/11/2025 12:22
and that ovul is made at birth of Mary
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so Mary was literally born with God
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which is what the Bible says
serpente482
cuz of wanting to be different
Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2025 12:22
True, a lot of people reject even the majority EO view and disgustingly insist on Mary being a sinner, Mary having sex etc. Just because RCs believe it (edited)
serpente482 10/11/2025 12:23
i believe a lot of protestants doctrines that dont allign with catholicism were just taken out of spite
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because they dont let it up to interpretation
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they just deny it
Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2025 12:23
(They were)
serpente482
they just deny it
Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2025 12:24
But tbf, Lutherans nor Calvinists rejected RC notions about Mary, except the IC
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:24
man my cognitive dissonance from being born in the same yet so different religion from yall
Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2025 12:24
traditionally
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You see this in the Radical Reformed
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man my cognitive dissonance from being born in the same yet so different religion from yall
serpente482 10/11/2025 12:25
Netherlands has more catholicism than protestantism now i think
Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2025 12:25
The Baptists, „non-denominationals”, Pentecostals etc.
serpente482
Netherlands has more catholicism than protestantism now i think
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:25
im only dutch ancestry i live in the US
serpente482 10/11/2025 12:25
ah
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i think it might be true to the USA aswell soon
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Is High Church protestantism falling?
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@Мико⚜🐾
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i think someone choosing a church would either take the liberal evangelical approach or go to an Apostolic Church
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i see no reason to believe in authority outside historical christianity
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:27
idk man whatever happens happens what are the implications of the protestant denominations getting something fundamental about Christian doctrine wrong? denying Mary would, in essence, be denying God.
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idk man whatever happens happens what are the implications of the protestant denominations getting something fundamental about Christian doctrine wrong? denying Mary would, in essence, be denying God.
serpente482 10/11/2025 12:27
i dont think its that heavy
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:27
how si (edited)
serpente482 10/11/2025 12:28
Mariology is tradition, getting Mariology from the Bible is way harder
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their original sin was refusing tradition
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:28
if Mary is God and I reject Mary's divinity, that is equivalent to rejecting Jesus' divinity which is heresy. why is A not a heresy while B is?
Deleted User
if Mary is God and I reject Mary's divinity, that is equivalent to rejecting Jesus' divinity which is heresy. why is A not a heresy while B is?
serpente482 10/11/2025 12:28
Mary is not God
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Mary is with God
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:28
what is she then
serpente482 10/11/2025 12:28
the Mother of God
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Theotokos
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:28
cuz yall treat her as some higher being
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ok
Deleted User
cuz yall treat her as some higher being
serpente482 10/11/2025 12:29
the most blessed among women
serpente482
then the ovul from which he was conceived is also God
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:29
please explain yourself here
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part of Mary being God? if i still deny that then we have the same problem (edited)
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seems to somewhat align with how Jesus is described
serpente482
Is High Church protestantism falling?
Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2025 12:31
All of the historical High Church Protestant institutions are hijacked and modernist
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:32
watching yall shit on my denomination
Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2025 12:32
Simply because the Prots made it so their Churches were essentially departments of the state The Anglicans made the King of England the head of the Church Others were made subservient to the government, who at times influenced elections (edited)
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This has its benefits
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But it also has its drawbacks, as can be seen today
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watching yall shit on my denomination
Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2025 12:34
It’s true, obviously there are many Anglicans and Lutherans who are still traditional and right-believing
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In fact, they are the majority
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:35
but does the origin of my denomination make my Christianity invalid?
Мико⚜🐾
In fact, they are the majority
Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2025 12:35
But it is a fact that the historical organisations they founded have been corrupted
Deleted User
but does the origin of my denomination make my Christianity invalid?
Мико⚜🐾 10/11/2025 12:35
Not by itself, obviously
Мико⚜🐾
Not by itself, obviously
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:35
how tho
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if i was in a heretical denomination then we would have a huge problem there
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and yall seem to claim that protestantism is heretical
serpente482
then the ovul from which he was conceived is also God
Deleted User 10/11/2025 12:37
not to mention serpente's claim here
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which denying would be denying a physical agency of God and is logically equivalent to denying that Jesus is God
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i just dont know what denomination is best and every denomimation seems to be heretical through some interpretational scope of a different denomination and its all so confusing and this further elucidates my belief that truth is either impossible to attain or doesnt exist outside the mind
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part of Mary being God? if i still deny that then we have the same problem (edited)
serpente482 10/11/2025 13:02
the cell from which Jesus came
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i just dont know what denomination is best and every denomimation seems to be heretical through some interpretational scope of a different denomination and its all so confusing and this further elucidates my belief that truth is either impossible to attain or doesnt exist outside the mind
serpente482 10/11/2025 13:05
as long as you try to follow God. But if there is just ONE Church then it cant be one that was made later and doesnt even accept all of the Bible
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Neither the orthodoxs nor the catholics claim salvation is only reserved for their church anymore
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But the fullness of truth can either not exist or be in one of those two
serpente482
the cell from which Jesus came
Deleted User 10/11/2025 13:09
i mean theres the oerspective that Jesus was both 100% God and 100% man. the notion of being God is not based in the physical world.
serpente482
Neither the orthodoxs nor the catholics claim salvation is only reserved for their church anymore
Deleted User 10/11/2025 13:10
why would such a proposition change over time? why would God decide to let people outside of the church into heaven after time passes? especially after no sacrifice or smth
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why would such a proposition change over time? why would God decide to let people outside of the church into heaven after time passes? especially after no sacrifice or smth
serpente482 10/11/2025 13:12
because both were angry with each other for the schism, but theres, at least in the Catholic Church two kinds of "propositions", doctrine and dogmas. Doctrines can be wrong and interpreted differently but are usually what the Church bets on and Dogmas are undeniable truths that every Catholic must hold on to. The Catholic Church has no saying on who gets saved and not because only God takes that choice
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i think thats the easy explanation but i havent looked at it fully
Deleted User 10/11/2025 13:13
ok
serpente482
because both were angry with each other for the schism, but theres, at least in the Catholic Church two kinds of "propositions", doctrine and dogmas. Doctrines can be wrong and interpreted differently but are usually what the Church bets on and Dogmas are undeniable truths that every Catholic must hold on to. The Catholic Church has no saying on who gets saved and not because only God takes that choice
Deleted User 10/11/2025 13:16
can you further explain that last sentence tho
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can you further explain that last sentence tho
serpente482 10/11/2025 13:16
who goes to Hell or Heaven cant be known for us only for God
Deleted User 10/11/2025 13:17
oh your wording made that a little confusing
serpente482 10/11/2025 13:17
maybe
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im esl like having fun
Deleted User 10/11/2025 13:18
"and not because only God takes that choice"
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inverse of what u said
serpente482
im esl like having fun
Deleted User 10/11/2025 13:18
my condolenses
Deleted User
"and not because only God takes that choice"
serpente482 10/11/2025 13:19
meant not as gets saved or doesnt get saved
Deleted User 10/11/2025 13:20
ok
serpente482
meant not as gets saved or doesnt get saved
Deleted User 10/11/2025 13:20
i blame the line break lol
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well a comma would have clarified tbf
serpente482 10/11/2025 13:21
not writting a formal letter
serpente482
not writting a formal letter
Deleted User 10/11/2025 13:29
sometimes it helps clarify things tho zero syntax makes things confusing sometimes also you used proper syntax on the majority of what u wrote, so its just a small mistake that led to superficial confusion and lets move on. (edited)
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sometimes it helps clarify things tho zero syntax makes things confusing sometimes also you used proper syntax on the majority of what u wrote, so its just a small mistake that led to superficial confusion and lets move on. (edited)
serpente482 10/11/2025 13:31
i write as i think in my head and i didnt think it with a comma
serpente482
i write as i think in my head and i didnt think it with a comma
Deleted User 10/11/2025 13:32
ok but that statement can be interpreted both ways. separating with a comma removes the ambiguity but it doesnt rly matter
serpente482 10/11/2025 13:33
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/13/2025 10:17
@Мико⚜🐾 do you have to be Orthodox to accept the Eucharist in an Orthodox service
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@Мико⚜🐾 do you have to be Orthodox to accept the Eucharist in an Orthodox service
Мико⚜🐾 10/13/2025 10:18
Yes, you have to be received into the Church to receive them
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/13/2025 10:24
That's not the case with Catholicism Is it
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And what exactly does being "received into the church" mean?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
That's not the case with Catholicism Is it
Мико⚜🐾 10/13/2025 10:32
No, it is the case with the Catholic Church too
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They only administer Eucharist to Orthodox in emergencies
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/13/2025 10:56
I see
Мико⚜🐾 10/13/2025 15:31
‘This moment of the Lord’s Baptism is one of the most awe-inspiring and tragic moments of His life. Christmas is the moment when God, in His love for humankind and His desire to save us from eternal perdition, clothes Himself in human flesh—when human flesh is permeated by Divinity, renewed, made eternal, pure, and radiant: that very flesh which, through the way of the Cross, the Resurrection, and the Ascension, will sit at the right hand of God the Father. But on the day of the Lord’s Baptism this preparatory path comes to its end. Now the Lord, matured in His humanity—the Man Jesus Christ, who has attained the full measure of His maturity, united with the will of the Father in perfect love and perfect obedience—goes by His own free will to fulfil that which the Eternal Counsel had foreordained. Now the Man Jesus Christ offers this flesh as a sacrifice and as a gift not only to God, but to all humankind; He takes upon His shoulders the whole horror of Man’s sin and human fallenness, and immerses Himself in those waters which now are the waters of death, the image of perdition—waters that bear within themselves all evil, all poison, and all the death of sin. Into these waters Christ came to be immersed at the beginning of His ministry of preaching and His gradual ascent toward the Cross—to plunge into those waters bearing the whole burden of human sin—He, the sinless One. The Baptism of the Lord, in the further unfolding of events, most closely resembles the dread of Gethsemane, the desolation of the death on the Cross, and the descent into Hades. Here too, Christ so unites Himself with the destiny of humankind that all its horror is laid upon Him, and the descent into Hades becomes the final measure of His oneness with us—the loss of all things, and the victory over evil.’
`Metropolitan Anthony Bloom, Sermon on Epiphany (1973)` (edited)
GR 10/14/2025 05:28
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
And what exactly does being "received into the church" mean?
Мико⚜🐾 10/14/2025 06:28
To be ‘received into the(a) Church’ is to simply be an official, initiated member of any given Christian body (edited)
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Although some believe that one is a member of an invisible body of believers merely by faith in Christ & life in this faith, most believe that the Church is also a physical, tangible thing that one ought unite himself to, either via a sacrament or a ceremony in which you declare a confession of faith.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/14/2025 11:39
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pqw7y6qisw
Unam Sanctam Catholicam
Why Modern Israel is NOT Biblical Israel
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/14/2025 12:06
@serpente482 What's your opinions on the current Pope?
Мико⚜🐾 10/14/2025 13:09
https://fixupx.com/blessedmikko/status/1978024306673123818 (edited)
Мікко⚜ (@blessedmikko)
Alcohol & nicotine are changeable goods, they have the capacity to be used either for virtue or for vice (sin) depending on the will of the recipient. ︀︀Therefore, arguments for banning pornography, which is itself intrinsically disordered and only has the capacity to damage both body & soul, do not & cannot apply.
Quoting Zack (@Asmongold) ︀ @kangminjlee I think the arguments for banning porn can be applied to cigarettes and especially alcohol too, in fact even more because they're physically destructive also ︀︀ ︀︀Ultimately it's most important that individuals are free to choose and pursue what they want in life, even if its stupid
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Мико⚜🐾 10/14/2025 13:20
Writing a response to the question ‘Is it sinful to create and enjoy media which makes use of fantasy?’
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Since I see a lot of debate over whether it is sinful, a lot of claims about whether it’s impossible to be a furry and be Christian etc.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/14/2025 13:22
I'd argue no. God gave us the ability to think creatively for a reason. Jesus teaches us lessons through parables or stories because stories are a powerful medium by which we can internalise new messages and ideas. If a creative medium uses fantasy but teaches also good moral lessons, I do not see how enjoying that medium is sinful. Especially if you are not worshipping or idolising that medium, because that would be sin.
Мико⚜🐾 10/14/2025 13:22
Well yes, exactly
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That is precisely the point that I make
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/14/2025 13:23
Is enjoying The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe sinful? A story which uses fantasy but where Azlan is a reflection of Christ, even down to his sacrifice and resurrection?
Мико⚜🐾 10/14/2025 14:04
Ofc not haha
14:04
Youd think such a thing as that is obvious
14:04
But unfortunately.. it is not
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/14/2025 14:13
Wait until Swift Wings is out proper
14:13
I said that my webcomic is Christian and I mean it.
14:13
Yes it's a fantasy sci-fi space adventure but its core messages and themes are Biblical.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@serpente482 What's your opinions on the current Pope?
serpente482 10/14/2025 15:32
I like him
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
That's not the case with Catholicism Is it
Randnew 10/15/2025 04:52
No it is
04:53
What are you talking about dawg?
04:53
Non-catholics should never receive the Eucharist
Randnew
Non-catholics should never receive the Eucharist
serpente482 10/15/2025 07:57
He was raised catholic, if he did the first communion and confesses he can i think
serpente482
He was raised catholic, if he did the first communion and confesses he can i think
Randnew 10/15/2025 11:37
Ay nice
serpente482
He was raised catholic, if he did the first communion and confesses he can i think
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/15/2025 13:30
Yes
13:31
When I find my church I'll just have to do confession and that'll be that
13:31
Having said that I may have made up my mind already
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/15/2025 13:46
My protestant church also made me realise something
13:46
I was at church for the wrong reasons
13:47
I wasn't there to know God, I was there just to learn about him then socialise with my church family afterwards
13:48
I realised that after going to the Greek Orthodox church. I couldn't understand the sermon but realised quickly that it was about experiencing and being in the presence of God
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13:49
The TLDR is I'm not protestant anymore
1
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/15/2025 21:09
https://thecatholicherald.com/article/vatican-library-grants-muslim-scholars-a-prayer-room#:~:text=Fr%20Giacomo%20Cardinali%2C%20Vice%20Prefect,to%20them%2C
Vatican Library grants Muslim scholars a prayer room
The Vatican Apostolic Library has set aside a dedicated space for Muslim academics to pray, a move confirmed by its Vice Prefect, Fr Giacomo Cardinali.
21:09
What is this filth brothers?
21:12
A Muslim (single) scholar was offered the chance to pray while visiting the Vatican Library. But why should this have been permitted in the first place?
21:12
Shame on the person who allowed it.
21:12
Should have told that young man "with respect, no. You do not pray to Satan in this place".
GR 10/15/2025 21:18
VikingTiger6 10/15/2025 21:42
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/15/2025 21:47
The Catholics already did what the Prots set out to do. It was called the Counter Reformation and the Catholic Church has remained strong and united since then. The Protestant Reformation lead to split after split after split which opened the way to things like JW and Mormonism.
21:47
One misguided person with poor judgement in the Vatican Library doesn't devalue the Catholic Church.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
One misguided person with poor judgement in the Vatican Library doesn't devalue the Catholic Church.
GR 10/15/2025 22:10
decisions like those are made by senior officials and likely even the pope himself
22:10
not one person
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
A Muslim (single) scholar was offered the chance to pray while visiting the Vatican Library. But why should this have been permitted in the first place?
serpente482 10/16/2025 08:41
Its a library not a church
GR
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serpente482 10/16/2025 08:42
Rather a muslim in a library than a lesbian in a church
serpente482
Rather a muslim in a library than a lesbian in a church
GR 10/16/2025 08:42
I don't want either
GR
I don't want either
serpente482 10/16/2025 08:42
But you get both
GR 10/16/2025 08:43
nuh uh
serpente482 10/16/2025 08:43
Luther is in Hell forced to read the book of mormon for all eternity
08:43
Thats what his pride spawned
08:43
Either in hell or in a long ass purgatory
GR 10/16/2025 08:44
he's in heaven brah
GR
he's in heaven brah
serpente482 10/16/2025 08:44
In heaven for what?
08:44
For indirectly causing the death of thousands of christians?
08:44
Youll know the tree by its fruits
serpente482
For indirectly causing the death of thousands of christians?
GR 10/16/2025 08:44
>indirectly why would he be in hell for the choices of retards
GR
>indirectly why would he be in hell for the choices of retards
serpente482 10/16/2025 08:45
Because those are the retards he chose to ally with
serpente482
Because those are the retards he chose to ally with
GR 10/16/2025 08:45
who bro
GR
who bro
serpente482 10/16/2025 08:46
Power hungry nobility and some fag who thought God made people to send them to Hell
serpente482
Power hungry nobility and some fag who thought God made people to send them to Hell
GR 10/16/2025 08:46
I don't know what you're referring to
serpente482 10/16/2025 08:47
Countries only adapted protestantism for political purposes barely any spiritual reasons
08:47
Netherlands and England specifically
08:47
I dont know about the rest
08:48
Probably similar reasons
GR 10/16/2025 08:52
the nordic anglo prots vs the latinx catholics (edited)
serpente482
Probably similar reasons
GR 10/16/2025 08:52
I don't think it was specifically to get away from catholicism
08:53
at least not in the netherlands
GR
the nordic anglo prots vs the latinx catholics (edited)
serpente482 10/16/2025 08:55
Eva brunne vs Robert Sarah
GR
at least not in the netherlands
serpente482 10/16/2025 08:56
Definetly on the netherlands
08:56
They didnt like to be under spanish rule
serpente482
Eva brunne vs Robert Sarah
GR 10/16/2025 08:57
lmao
serpente482
They didnt like to be under spanish rule
GR 10/16/2025 08:57
that's what I'm saying
08:57
they just so happened to be catholic though
GR
they just so happened to be catholic though
serpente482 10/16/2025 08:58
So they used religion wars as a tool
08:58
It doesnt matter doe
08:59
Netherlands now has more catholics than reformed fags
GR 10/16/2025 08:59
is that true
serpente482 10/16/2025 08:59
Yeah
09:00
Same as germany
09:00
But germany because the protestant side was the east which became atheist under communism
09:00
Netherlands just became atheist
serpente482
Its a library not a church
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 17:27
Brother it is still a holy place in the vatican. He should not have been pardoned.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Brother it is still a holy place in the vatican. He should not have been pardoned.
serpente482 10/16/2025 17:42
Its a library with some of the oldest qurans in existence where lots of muslim scholars enter and stay for hours while respecting the place
17:43
Hostilities dont solve anything
17:44
Its not the 12th century anymore you cant solve everything with a crusade
serpente482
Its not the 12th century anymore you cant solve everything with a crusade
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 17:44
No but we can try--
serpente482
Its a library with some of the oldest qurans in existence where lots of muslim scholars enter and stay for hours while respecting the place
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 17:45
Even so you cannot be praying in a library. I wouldn't expect that of my fellow Christians.
serpente482 10/16/2025 17:45
If in a catholic place you dont respect islam why should a muslim place respect christianity?
serpente482
If in a catholic place you dont respect islam why should a muslim place respect christianity?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 17:45
Brother, they don't.
serpente482 10/16/2025 17:45
Some do
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 17:45
But the majority of them do not.
serpente482 10/16/2025 17:45
And those who do can enter
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
But the majority of them do not.
serpente482 10/16/2025 17:46
If the majority doesnt its because the majority of us also doesnt
17:47
A carpet in a library does more for christians suffering in Africa and the Middle East than mindless criticizing
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 17:47
That's not how it works. Christianity teaches that all are made in the image of God and all are equal in the eyes of the Lord. The Quran meanwhile calls for Jihad against non-Muslims. Is it any surprise Muslims act violent/oppressive towards Christians within Muslim countries? That's what the whole jizyah is or however it's spelled.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
That's not how it works. Christianity teaches that all are made in the image of God and all are equal in the eyes of the Lord. The Quran meanwhile calls for Jihad against non-Muslims. Is it any surprise Muslims act violent/oppressive towards Christians within Muslim countries? That's what the whole jizyah is or however it's spelled.
serpente482 10/16/2025 17:47
And your solution is?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 17:48
My solution is to be wise like serpents.
17:48
That means to discern and not be a doormat.
17:48
History has shown that when given an inch, Islam takes a mile.
serpente482 10/16/2025 17:49
Give an inch?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 17:49
The crusades happened because Islam kept taking a mile. And another mile. And another mile.
serpente482
Give an inch?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 17:49
It's an english expression.
17:50
serpente482 10/16/2025 17:51
If they allow christians to pray in Hagia Sophia which is, sadly, now a mosque why not allowing them to pray at a place that its purpose isnt even of worship
17:51
Its just adding a carpet to a library thats all there is
17:52
Dont trust media outlets whose economic activities depend of causing emotions on readers
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 17:53
No, I did my research. Yes it is "just a carpet in a library" if you want to go there. But this isn't like a Buddhist or a Sihk. It's a Muslim. Islam is a conquest religion and by giving up a bit of space, especially within the Vatican, you're opening them up to pushing for more. Because that's what Islam does and has always done. It's literally commanded of them in their Holy Book.
17:54
He should have said to the Muslim gentleman, "I respect your wishes but I cannot allow that in the Vatican".
17:55
That would've been the most loving thing for him to say. Because sometimes being loving is saying "no".
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
He should have said to the Muslim gentleman, "I respect your wishes but I cannot allow that in the Vatican".
serpente482 10/16/2025 17:56
And if they did that in the middle east with christianity?
17:56
This is not the 12th century
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 17:56
A Christian asking to pray in a Muslim space within the middle east? Probably would've told him no.
17:57
If Islam gatekeeps, why can't Christianity?
serpente482 10/16/2025 17:57
Because our religion commands to love our enemies
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 17:57
Not gatekeeping is how you get more mosques being built than churches in the UK.
17:58
Not gatekeeping is how you get Parliament pushing for Shariah courts.
serpente482 10/16/2025 17:58
No you get that by becoming an atheist and having each time more muslims and less Christians
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 17:58
Not gatekeeping is how you get Muslim councils and enclaves in the UK.
serpente482 10/16/2025 17:58
Gatekeeping is how you get thousands of christians dead in Nigeria
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 17:59
No, that happens because of Islam.
serpente482 10/16/2025 17:59
Their religion commands an eye for an eye ours to put the other cheek
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 17:59
Where their faith calls on them to commit Jihad against non-believers and subjugate them.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:00
If you pay them with their same coin you dont only make their decision for an eye for an eye but you also forsake your duty
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:01
Serp, we are called to be gentle like doves, yes. But wise like serpents. We're called to show hospitality and love but you cannot love someone that seeks to destroy you. That's where the latter part comes in. To discern and not let someone else walk all over you.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Serp, we are called to be gentle like doves, yes. But wise like serpents. We're called to show hospitality and love but you cannot love someone that seeks to destroy you. That's where the latter part comes in. To discern and not let someone else walk all over you.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:02
The only one who needs to discern is you
18:02
Not all muslims are terrorists and extremists
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:02
I don't think you fully appreciate the Christian/Islam tensions in the UK. I don't know what it's like in Spain but it's pretty fucked here mate.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:02
Here aswell
18:02
We are literally next to them
18:03
We have been their historical enemies unlike you
18:03
We have maybe less percent but the problems are thr same
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:03
I get to witness first hand what happens when you just allow Islam to walk right into your country and into your systems of government and push for their agendas while suppressing Christians.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:03
There was a literal riot against muslims this summer in a village
18:04
Im not in favor of mass migration but im not against letting them enter
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:04
I mean need I remind you of the rape gangs in the UK where 97% of the perpetrators were Pakistani Muslims? With multiple survivors claiming that the men were raping them because they were non-muslims.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:04
Not everything is black and white
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I mean need I remind you of the rape gangs in the UK where 97% of the perpetrators were Pakistani Muslims? With multiple survivors claiming that the men were raping them because they were non-muslims.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:05
Sucks that the UK is responsible for pakistanis wanting to go there
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:05
Both black and white British girls being trafficked and raped up and down the country with the men saying they deserve to be raped because they're non-muslims.
18:05
I don't give a fuck, mate. I do not think Islam should be given an inch.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:05
You exploited them now you deal with the consequences
18:06
Biggest empire in the world now receiving the consequences of your own actions
18:06
Its not a matter of islam and christianity
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:06
Brother are you being serious right now? "Oh you conquered other countries years ago so your British girls deserve to be raped by Pakistanis"
18:06
???
18:07
You sound like a leftists.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:07
I didnt say anything about rape
18:07
I told you its not black and white
18:07
Islam is not about raping girls and those rapists dont even pray
18:07
You are mixing lukewarm muslims with islam
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:08
Their holy book commands them to wage holy war against non-believers and to force them to convert or pay the jizyah tax.
18:08
Their same book gives them permission to lie to protect their faith.
18:08
And you see this happen time and again where Islam worms its way into a country and fucks it up.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:09
Its not black and white
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:09
No but if there are 10 dots and only one of them is blue, that still makes for 9 red dots. (edited)
18:09
Pattern recognition.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
No but if there are 10 dots and only one of them is blue, that still makes for 9 red dots. (edited)
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:09
Yes and those red dots are normal muslims but you only care about the blue
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:10
Other way around amigo.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:10
No other way around
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:10
I'll turn your head the other way around.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:11
And youll be left angry and confused and ill go in peace
serpente482
Because our religion commands to love our enemies
GR 10/16/2025 18:11
loving them does not mean submitting to them
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:11
You need to meet more people
GR
loving them does not mean submitting to them
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:11
And no one is submitting to them
18:12
Only the government
18:12
Which isnt christian
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:12
Look, Brother, the point is that you're acting like a doormat. We are not called to be doormats. If you really want to pull the "not all Muslims" card, then fine. Yeah. Not all Muslims. I shared my college classes with Muslims. Some of them were cool. But the majority of them read "wage Jihad against non-believers" and take it literally and do as it commands.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Look, Brother, the point is that you're acting like a doormat. We are not called to be doormats. If you really want to pull the "not all Muslims" card, then fine. Yeah. Not all Muslims. I shared my college classes with Muslims. Some of them were cool. But the majority of them read "wage Jihad against non-believers" and take it literally and do as it commands.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:12
Thats just fake
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:12
You're starting to sound like Euro.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:13
Then maybe euro had some stuff right
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:13
Feeling like I woke up in the twilight zone ffs.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:13
Euro wasnt one of those extremists wasnt him
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:13
No he's just a LARPer.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:15
He knew more about islam than you or me
18:15
Doe
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:16
Sure but I know enough to know it's not worth giving Islam an inch because it always takes a mile.
18:16
And it's not like Islamic societies produce good fruits like Christian societies do.
GR 10/16/2025 18:16
we know enough about islam that it doesn't belong anywhere near us
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:17
Didn't Iraq or where ever force through dropping the age of marriage to 9 undemocratically?
18:17
Your Shariah law, saar
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:22
Then go out and convert muslims
18:22
Given that its so full
18:22
And you know enough
18:22
Instead of larping as a internet crusader
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:22
God didn't call me to evangelise. My public speaking is shit.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
God didn't call me to evangelise. My public speaking is shit.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:23
God did
18:23
Jesus called everyone to evangelize
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:23
I'm not LARPing as an internet crusader. I'm saying that we should be more firm in not letting Islam walk all over us. I'm not calling for us to wage war against Islam.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:23
Hate will not kill islam love will
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:23
Serp why do you pick and choose when you want to be smart about a topic.
18:23
That's what Euro does.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:24
Because you pick and choose when you consider arguments to be smart/dumb
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:24
How am I being dumb in saying that we shouldn't give Islam the time of day?
18:24
Especially when you look at history.
18:24
And then compare that to what I see every day in my own country.
18:25
Islam is a blight.
18:25
And don't pull the leftist thing where you cannot tell the difference between Islam and a Muslim.
serpente482
Instead of larping as a internet crusader
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:26
I'm not the one saying "Raaaah let's get out there and destroy Islam!" I'm saying that we as Christians should be saying to Muslims: "This is our space. This belongs to us. And you need to respect that when in our space. And if you don't like it, go find somewhere else".
18:27
The same way that Muslims in Islamic countries, often very violently, say to Christians: "This is our space. It belongs to us. Respect it or get out."
18:28
The difference is we don't go out killing Muslims the way they have been killing our brothers and sisters in Nigeria.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
The difference is we don't go out killing Muslims the way they have been killing our brothers and sisters in Nigeria.
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:29
Those are terrorists
18:29
Thats would be like saying the kkk is christian
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:29
serpente482
Thats would be like saying the kkk is christian
GR 10/16/2025 18:30
serpente482 10/16/2025 18:34
The kkk are as christian as mormons
18:34
Meaning not really because they arent catholics
GR 10/16/2025 18:36
so everyone who isn't catholic isn't christian
18:36
you're killing me serp
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 18:37
C'mon Serp, Brother, you're smarter than this.
Ski Squire 10/16/2025 18:43
the kkk aren't christian cause they hate people for the sake of something they can't control
18:43
and you are meant to hate no one
18:43
not even those who actually do wrong
18:43
you are meant to feel bad for them
GR 10/16/2025 18:45
it's tough to explain the klan to non-americans but they didn't behave how they are perceived
18:46
they were a vigilante group in the south due to incompetent judges and government officials that were placed into positions of power without election after the defeat of the civil war
18:46
crime and degeneracy was high and on the rise so they took it into their own hands (edited)
18:49
crime and degeneracy as we still see today are disproportionately done by certain groups of people (jews and blacks), which is why they were often "victims" of the klan
18:49
they weren't trailer hicks that wanted to lynch black people just because
GR
crime and degeneracy as we still see today are disproportionately done by certain groups of people (jews and blacks), which is why they were often "victims" of the klan
Ski Squire 10/16/2025 18:53
back then, maybe, but nowadays its all cia garbage anyways
Arcane BOT 10/16/2025 18:53
@Ski Squire has reached level 11. GG!
Ski Squire
back then, maybe, but nowadays its all cia garbage anyways
GR 10/16/2025 18:54
yeah I would agree, that whole movement really devolved post ~1965
GR
yeah I would agree, that whole movement really devolved post ~1965
Ski Squire 10/16/2025 18:54
yea
18:54
the leo frank case was an undoubtable kkk W
GR 10/16/2025 18:55
of course
Ski Squire
the leo frank case was an undoubtable kkk W
NRG Balbodane 10/16/2025 19:38
the what now
NRG Balbodane
the what now
Ski Squire 10/16/2025 19:38
19:39
its u nigga
19:39
they lynched u
NRG Balbodane 10/16/2025 19:39
nigga
NRG Balbodane
nigga
Ski Squire 10/16/2025 19:40
double whammy bro
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/16/2025 21:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvQVPv2BMqg
Gospelpreaching
Before You Sin Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel
GR
so everyone who isn't catholic isn't christian
serpente482 10/16/2025 21:56
It was a joke
21:56
You replied with a joke i did the same
serpente482
You replied with a joke i did the same
GR 10/16/2025 22:00
"joke"
22:00
GR
"joke"
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:00
The kkk were terrorists
22:01
They were murderers and even killed catholics
22:01
So no they arent christians
serpente482
They were murderers and even killed catholics
GR 10/16/2025 22:01
22:02
any catholics they killed were criminals that happened to be catholic
GR
any catholics they killed were criminals that happened to be catholic
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:02
So now you are gonna say they werent anticatholic?
serpente482
So now you are gonna say they werent anticatholic?
GR 10/16/2025 22:02
no they were
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:02
So they arent christian
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GR 10/16/2025 22:02
this is a wasp nation and they were upholding that
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:03
End of
GR
this is a wasp nation and they were upholding that
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:04
A wasp nation?
serpente482
A wasp nation?
GR 10/16/2025 22:04
white anglo saxon protestant
GR
white anglo saxon protestant
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:05
So weakest christianity
22:05
Thats why race was tried to be brought to say why catholicism bad
GR 10/16/2025 22:06
they didn't like catholics because of theology of course but mainly because catholicism in america was coming from central/south americans (which nobody wants)
GR
they didn't like catholics because of theology of course but mainly because catholicism in america was coming from central/south americans (which nobody wants)
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:06
Italians and Irish?
serpente482
Italians and Irish?
GR 10/16/2025 22:06
also the irish and italians were overwhelmingly catholic and they weren't assimilating well (edited)
GR
also the irish and italians were overwhelmingly catholic and they weren't assimilating well (edited)
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:07
Because anticatholicism
GR 10/16/2025 22:07
no they just didn't know how to behave
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:07
Yeah sure
GR 10/16/2025 22:07
they brought us organized crime
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:07
Because they were forced to
22:08
If the state doesnt care about them they will rise however they can
serpente482
Because they were forced to
GR 10/16/2025 22:08
their own lack of adaptation led to it, not because of us
22:08
they could have gone back if it was such a problem
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:08
They couldnt
GR 10/16/2025 22:08
this isn't their nation to exploit
GR
this isn't their nation to exploit
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:09
It is as much yours as theirs
22:09
You arent native
serpente482
You arent native
GR 10/16/2025 22:09
my nigga I'm 12th gen american at minimum
22:09
I am a native
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:09
So were they
GR 10/16/2025 22:10
no, they started showing up in the 19th century
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:10
3/4 of your country were catholic before the masons started buying and getting rid of the orignal ownera
GR 10/16/2025 22:10
we were overwhelmingly protestant in the colonial ages
GR
we were overwhelmingly protestant in the colonial ages
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:11
The colonial ages had only the east coast
serpente482
The colonial ages had only the east coast
GR 10/16/2025 22:11
so where are you getting 3/4 catholic from
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:11
Spain and France had the rest
GR
so where are you getting 3/4 catholic from
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:11
Spain and France
serpente482
Spain and France had the rest
GR 10/16/2025 22:11
they had territories, they weren't building this nation like we were
22:11
the spanish at least
22:12
the french had their business up north
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:12
We were
22:12
But it was centralized in Mexico
serpente482
But it was centralized in Mexico
GR 10/16/2025 22:12
I know. We didn't bother with any of that
22:12
we took what was had in the west
22:12
hardly anything was there
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:13
Hardly anything was there 150 years ago so anyone who got there has as much right as you do
serpente482
Hardly anything was there 150 years ago so anyone who got there has as much right as you do
GR 10/16/2025 22:14
the irish and the italians stayed east though, it has no merit in the argument here
22:14
the only catholics that went west and had any significance were the german catholics in texas (edited)
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:14
It was no mans lands a few generations ago
GR 10/16/2025 22:15
until we found gold and oil
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:15
And why you never converted the natives
GR 10/16/2025 22:16
the point is the celtics and mediterraneans did the minimum for expansion
serpente482
And why you never converted the natives
GR 10/16/2025 22:16
they were more worried about our conquest than religion
GR
they were more worried about our conquest than religion
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:16
We did both
serpente482
We did both
GR 10/16/2025 22:16
yeah by creating mongrel nations that we now have to deal with
GR
yeah by creating mongrel nations that we now have to deal with
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:17
"Mongrel nations"
serpente482
"Mongrel nations"
GR 10/16/2025 22:17
mexico
22:17
south america
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:17
Most christian territory in the world
GR 10/16/2025 22:17
I don't think that's true
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:17
No?
22:17
Name one with more percentage
22:18
It was also all catholic until the CIA fucked over central america
GR 10/16/2025 22:18
brother central america was always fucked
serpente482
Most christian territory in the world
GR 10/16/2025 22:19
It's more than likely africa with europe trailing behind
GR
It's more than likely africa with europe trailing behind
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:19
Africa?
22:19
Are you dumb
22:19
Half of it is muslim
GR 10/16/2025 22:20
brother every missionary ever has gone to africa (edited)
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:20
With a lot of random religions in tribes
GR
brother every missionary ever has gone to africa (edited)
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:20
And why is that?
serpente482
Half of it is muslim
GR 10/16/2025 22:20
what do you think most of their wars are
22:20
christian vs muslim
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:20
No missionaries are needed if they are christian
serpente482
No missionaries are needed if they are christian
GR 10/16/2025 22:20
missionaries are WHY they are christian (edited)
22:20
holy I can't type
GR
christian vs muslim
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:20
So how can a place that is 50% christian be more christian than one which is more than 9/10
serpente482
So how can a place that is 50% christian be more christian than one which is more than 9/10
GR 10/16/2025 22:21
I don't understand (edited)
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:21
South America is the most christian part of the world
22:21
And you called it mongrel
GR 10/16/2025 22:21
mongrel is entirely racial not religious
22:21
it's a fact
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:22
Then mongrels will go to heaven
GR 10/16/2025 22:22
no one is disagreeing with this
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:22
Then mongrels are what we should aim to become
GR 10/16/2025 22:22
my point with that is my nation is white and it must stay that way
22:22
not that they aren't saved
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:22
If they are saved then they are doing whats needed
22:23
Being white is irrelevant
GR 10/16/2025 22:23
and they can continue to do what's needed by staying in their own nation
22:23
the one God gave them
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:23
And that you screwed
GR 10/16/2025 22:23
no sir
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:23
You cant coup the entire place and put dictatorships then and then dont expect them to want to leave that fucked up place to the closest thing that isnt fucked
GR 10/16/2025 22:24
we did none of that lol
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:24
Sure
GR 10/16/2025 22:24
they discovered the drug trade and essentially buried themselves forever
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:24
Sure
GR 10/16/2025 22:25
it's a fact man
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:25
Its also a fact the CIA planting dictatorships that sold the country to the usa
GR 10/16/2025 22:25
haven't heard that one before
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:25
How
22:25
Banana Republics
GR 10/16/2025 22:25
idk man these european claims are wild sometimes
22:26
anything that happened at the government level post ww2 is likely compromised
22:26
there's only so much we can do about that
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:26
Compromised by who?
GR 10/16/2025 22:26
the nose people
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:26
By the same people that build your nation?
22:27
Your first president was a mason
GR 10/16/2025 22:27
no, they removed us from power a long time ago
serpente482
Your first president was a mason
GR 10/16/2025 22:27
minimal truth in that
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:27
Your slaves were brought by jews
GR 10/16/2025 22:27
fact
22:28
again we only had so many options against it
22:28
especially at the time
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:29
Because your country favored them
serpente482
Because your country favored them
GR 10/16/2025 22:29
even though they were excluded in the naturalization acts
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:29
We kicked them out and it remained that way
GR 10/16/2025 22:29
they wormed their way in likethey always do
serpente482
We kicked them out and it remained that way
GR 10/16/2025 22:30
yeah I'm sure good spaniard men want all those immigrants there
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:30
I dont mind latinxs
22:30
We made them so they can come
serpente482
I dont mind latinxs
GR 10/16/2025 22:31
I mean arabs and somalians
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:31
Blacks are good here
22:31
Its just in the usa they are evil
22:31
Moors romanians and gypsies are problematic
22:31
Hispanics and blacks usually arent
serpente482
Its just in the usa they are evil
GR 10/16/2025 22:31
nah all over the west, look at england and germany
GR
nah all over the west, look at england and germany
serpente482 10/16/2025 22:33
They deserve it more than anyone in europe
22:33
And france aswell
22:33
Niggers are their latinxs
22:33
And germany uses the eu to get rich
22:33
They buy every company thats profitable from all of eu
22:34
Thats why they never complain about having to pay for those countries
22:34
Because they keep them down
22:34
Germany is the worst nation on the history of mankind
22:35
Barbarians, Luther, Communists, Nazism, Globalization
22:35
All the plagues of the world
22:36
Muslims will come to europe because of germany
serpente482
Germany is the worst nation on the history of mankind
GR 10/17/2025 05:35
05:36
those barbarians converted and made strong Christians INCLUDING Catholics, Luther was great, communism came from Russian Jews, NS was good and globalization came from a post-modern unrecognizable country
05:37
The Germanic peoples are the greatest race of all time and it's a shame their nation died in 1945. My heart bleeds for them
GR
those barbarians converted and made strong Christians INCLUDING Catholics, Luther was great, communism came from Russian Jews, NS was good and globalization came from a post-modern unrecognizable country
serpente482 10/17/2025 08:12
Marx was german and luther a prideful fool
08:14
Luther was the reason germany didnt unite until half of 19th century probably
08:14
Divided the people
GR
The Germanic peoples are the greatest race of all time and it's a shame their nation died in 1945. My heart bleeds for them
serpente482 10/17/2025 08:16
"Greatest race of all time" "the kkk was GOOD aksually" "latin america is mongrel"
08:16
Memes are funny but racism is not christian
serpente482
"Greatest race of all time" "the kkk was GOOD aksually" "latin america is mongrel"
GR 10/17/2025 08:47
facts are facts mane
08:47
race realism =/= hate
08:48
GR
facts are facts mane
serpente482 10/17/2025 09:17
What facts, the "germanic people" were the niggers of the ancient world
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/17/2025 14:46
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serpente482 10/17/2025 16:50
The more niggers and latinxs a church has the more it will resist the woke virus
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16:52
Too bad some people think that a church should be for a country and ethnic group only
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serpente482
Too bad some people think that a church should be for a country and ethnic group only
GR 10/17/2025 18:50
are those people in the server with us now?
GR
are those people in the server with us now?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/17/2025 18:59
No because if they were, they would've either been bashed repeatedly over the head with scripture or told to fuck off.
18:59
Galatians 3:28
BibleBot BOT 10/17/2025 18:59
Galatians 3:28 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
<28> There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
GR 10/17/2025 18:59
figured
18:59
just making sure
serpente482
Luther was the reason germany didnt unite until half of 19th century probably
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 19:13
Blaming luther instead of the habsburgs, did the habsburgs pay you to say this?
serpente482
What facts, the "germanic people" were the niggers of the ancient world
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 19:14
We sacked rome once and we will do it again!
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GR
are those people in the server with us now?
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:16
It can look like that but im sure those people were just larping
VikingTiger6
Blaming luther instead of the habsburgs, did the habsburgs pay you to say this?
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:17
Austria has been the pinnacle of German people
serpente482
It can look like that but im sure those people were just larping
GR 10/17/2025 19:17
where
VikingTiger6
We sacked rome once and we will do it again!
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:17
You didnt doe the Pope stopped it
GR
where
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:19
Saying one race is "the best of all time" is very dumb doe
serpente482
You didnt doe the Pope stopped it
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 19:20
6 times out of 8 we sacked rome, other 2 were by Arabs or celts
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:20
Specially when that race has been not even that great and as you said has fallen
serpente482
Specially when that race has been not even that great and as you said has fallen
GR 10/17/2025 19:20
their nation fell is what I said
VikingTiger6
6 times out of 8 we sacked rome, other 2 were by Arabs or celts
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:20
Visigoths is me doe
serpente482
Visigoths is me doe
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 19:20
Bros a germanic rape baby and is dissing the Germans
19:20
Its over
VikingTiger6
Bros a germanic rape baby and is dissing the Germans
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:21
Germanic is a very broad term
19:21
And technically we are all rape babies
serpente482
Saying one race is "the best of all time" is very dumb doe
GR 10/17/2025 19:21
and I think it's plain to see they've been blessed with nothing but fruits
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:21
England was massively raped
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 19:21
Visigoths come from the goths who originated in sweden
GR
and I think it's plain to see they've been blessed with nothing but fruits
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:21
Like what exactly?
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 19:21
There was no scandinavian german distinction until christianization
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:21
The most blessed region in history has been the mediterranean
19:21
And still is
VikingTiger6
There was no scandinavian german distinction until christianization
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:22
Christianization brought by mediteranneans
19:22
Alongside civilization
19:22
Everything that matters has occurred in the mediterranean
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 19:22
Yea yea I get it, my ancestors were horrible barbarians, we still sacked rome 6 times doe
VikingTiger6
Yea yea I get it, my ancestors were horrible barbarians, we still sacked rome 6 times doe
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:23
You arent those people
19:23
You are an anglo
19:23
And a mutt
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 19:23
serpente482
You are an anglo
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 19:24
Term anglo comes from the people of angeln peninsula which is either in northern Germany or Denmark, I forgot
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serpente482 10/17/2025 19:24
What was the name of the "german nation" during the middle ages?
serpente482
Like what exactly?
GR 10/17/2025 19:24
Countless inventions, ingenuity, hard labor, saving Europe from the Ottoman Empire, nearly saving Europe from Bolshevism and the hellscape it is today (edited)
19:24
Oh and yeah, restoring the scriptures
GR
Countless inventions, ingenuity, hard labor, saving Europe from the Ottoman Empire, nearly saving Europe from Bolshevism and the hellscape it is today (edited)
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:24
So yeah
19:24
All mediterranean
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 19:25
The other tribes to make up the anglo saxons were the Saxons from Northern Germany, the Jutes from the Jutland peninsula, the frisians from the north of Holland, the franks from western Germany and possibly the geats
serpente482
All mediterranean
GR 10/17/2025 19:25
wrong!
GR
wrong!
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:25
Holy League ended the Ottoman power
19:25
None german
serpente482
What was the name of the "german nation" during the middle ages?
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 19:26
Where was the Spanish nation for most of the middle ages?
serpente482
Holy League ended the Ottoman power
GR 10/17/2025 19:26
Germans had a huge hand in the crusades brah
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 19:26
Didn't castile only make modern Spain quite late into the middle ages?
VikingTiger6
Where was the Spanish nation for most of the middle ages?
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:26
Fighting against moors defending christianity
19:26
800 years
19:26
Against all odds
19:26
Backed by God
19:26
While "germans" larped as romans
GR 10/17/2025 19:26
wouldn't even defend Christianity in ww2 doe (edited)
serpente482
Fighting against moors defending christianity
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 19:27
Yea but that was multiple kingdoms, modern Spain dates to the combination of aragon and castile
19:28
You can't say Germans aren't anything for being multiple tribes for most of our history and then be Spanish who only became a nation state in the late middle ages
19:28
Plus we had the holy Roman empire
19:28
Charlemagne the grandfather of the European kings is a German
19:29
Also we brought civilization to the Baltics
19:29
Much of the cities there today were founded by teutons
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/17/2025 19:31
Viking is German?
19:31
I did not know this.
VikingTiger6
You can't say Germans aren't anything for being multiple tribes for most of our history and then be Spanish who only became a nation state in the late middle ages
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:46
I say the spanish identity was born as the christians from iberia
19:47
Our identity is Catholicism against the enemies of Christ
GR
wouldn't even defend Christianity in ww2 doe (edited)
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:47
Wtf are you talking about
19:48
Spain was destroyed for a war that clearly was in favor of christianity unlike ww2
19:48
Spanish civil war Franco got his support from the Pope
19:50
It was the falangist, monarchists, traditionalists, right wing catholic front against the republicans, anarchists, communists, socialist
19:51
The most christian part of the axis in ww2 was Italy which isnt german
19:52
Japan was antichristian most of its existence and nazis werent more devouted christians than the allies
VikingTiger6
Plus we had the holy Roman empire
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:52
The holy what empire?
19:52
Is that your argument in favor of germans?
19:53
An "empire" that pretended to be mediterranean
VikingTiger6
Charlemagne the grandfather of the European kings is a German
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:55
Charlemagne was also french doe
VikingTiger6
Also we brought civilization to the Baltics
serpente482 10/17/2025 19:55
Oh wow which civilization
19:56
Couldnt it be the one the people you claimed to conquer gave you
19:58
90% of human history is because of these
19:58
Never forget
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Viking is German?
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 21:32
I'm 25% german
21:32
Over Half my ancestry comes from germanic europr
serpente482
Charlemagne was also french doe
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 21:32
Frankish
21:33
Thats a germanic tribe
21:33
Same tribe whos warrior class started the reconquiesta with Charles martel
VikingTiger6
Same tribe whos warrior class started the reconquiesta with Charles martel
serpente482 10/17/2025 21:39
reconquiesta?
VikingTiger6
Thats a germanic tribe
serpente482 10/17/2025 21:39
which identifies with the french
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 21:40
French is a recent nation, born of the mixing of the franks and the roman people of gaul
VikingTiger6
French is a recent nation, born of the mixing of the franks and the roman people of gaul
serpente482 10/17/2025 21:42
recent nation?
21:42
nigga
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 21:42
Atleast its older than spain
21:42
Lol
serpente482 10/17/2025 21:42
of course it is
21:43
well it depends
21:43
Spain was Asturias
21:43
and France was the HRE at that time
21:44
but if you understand the history of a country by the name they go by then every country is recent
21:44
the UK is a baby nation
VikingTiger6 10/17/2025 23:31
So don't you think its silly to say the german nation isint a thing?
serpente482
Saying one race is "the best of all time" is very dumb doe
Randnew 10/18/2025 06:47
my biggest problem with the far right. It typically goes along with being called a "Chr_stc_ck"
06:48
"Oh you love Jesus? You think that non-whites are human beings & not animals? That's like, broen coded, dude"
06:48
"You're Catholic? The pope is a cajun & that's like... That's brown-coded"
06:48
You know what else is brown-coded?
06:49
Siding with the race of middle eastern people who crucified the King of Kings
06:49
Oh Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets
06:50
Jesus doubles down on it all the time
06:50
He tells the jews that Elisha healed Naaman (A Syrian) from leprosy, while there were literally hundreds of Israelites with leprosy
06:51
& he brings up more examples
06:52
Luke 4:24-29 DRA
BibleBot BOT 10/18/2025 06:52
Luke 4:24-29 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
<24> And he said: Amen I say to you, that no prophet is accepted in his own country. <25> In truth I say to you, there were many widows in the days of Elias in Israel, when heaven was shut up three years and six months, when there was a great famine throughout all the earth. <26> And to none of them was Elias sent, but to Sarepta of Sidon, to a widow woman. <27> And there were many lepers in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet: and none of them was cleansed but Naaman the Syrian. <28> And all they in the synagogue, hearing these things, were filled with anger. <29> And they rose up and thrust him out of the city; and they brought him to the brow of the hill, whereon their city was built, that they might cast him down headlong.
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Randnew 10/18/2025 06:53
Notice how Jesus vividly remembered scripture from the top of His head
06:53
Always gives at least 2 examples
06:54
But yeah anyways
06:54
"Christianity is brown-coded"
06:54
Read that & tell me that's brown-coded
06:55
Jesus simply states that God loves the gentiles & that they are not subhuman & tells the jews that they're disgusting people
06:55
& instead of repenting, they throw a pissy fit
06:56
Any nationalist who tells you that Christianity is brown-coded is either dumb or evil
06:56
& whenver you bring up these passages in the gospel
06:57
They just recurse back to "but it's still a religion of jewish origin"
06:57
The jews didn't create their god; other way around
06:57
Christianity is aryan
06:57
Jesus completes your identity
06:58
If you are a white man & want to be what white people were designed for, then love God
06:58
Same goes for any other race
VikingTiger6 10/18/2025 07:03
If Christianity is brown coded, id rather be brown coded
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VikingTiger6
So don't you think its silly to say the german nation isint a thing?
serpente482 10/18/2025 08:42
What do you consider to be the "german nation". Your term is broad and inconsistent. If it is everyone with a drop of blood from ancient tribes from central europe then thats practically everyone, even latinxs, if you consider it to be the german diaspora then yeah those people definetly werent the best race of all time cuz their history aint even all that
08:43
Askenazis are more germanic than most mutts also
08:45
So stop larping, Hitler was a faggot and so is everyone who follows his ideas on race
Ski Squire 10/18/2025 09:39
hating people over their race is utterly retarded
09:39
literally in this server we have an example (mikko) that anyone of any race can be normal (edited)
09:39
its all down to how you are raised and social factors
09:39
i'm not saying there aren't predispositions and that race makes 0 difference, of course it does, but like, the social factors are usually stronger (edited)
Ski Squire
hating people over their race is utterly retarded
Ski Squire 10/18/2025 09:40
like its the one thing apart from gender you literally can't control (edited)
serpente482
What do you consider to be the "german nation". Your term is broad and inconsistent. If it is everyone with a drop of blood from ancient tribes from central europe then thats practically everyone, even latinxs, if you consider it to be the german diaspora then yeah those people definetly werent the best race of all time cuz their history aint even all that
VikingTiger6 10/18/2025 17:16
id put the germanic people as the people who speak the germanic languages
17:16
now of course its hard to draw the lines
17:16
im not gonna draw lines, theres varying degrees of whats a german
17:17
i just express my brotherhood to my relatives in continental europe and recognise our shared heritage
Ski Squire
literally in this server we have an example (mikko) that anyone of any race can be normal (edited)
Randnew 10/18/2025 18:04
Mikko is a shitskin?
VikingTiger6
id put the germanic people as the people who speak the germanic languages
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:04
so south africa?
18:04
nigga
Randnew 10/18/2025 18:05
Does that mean jews are Germanic beccause they speak Yiddish
Randnew
Mikko is a shitskin?
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:05
over
Randnew
Does that mean jews are Germanic beccause they speak Yiddish
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:05
askenazis literally are
Randnew 10/18/2025 18:05
"Oy vey" isn't even Hebrew
18:05
It's from German "Oh weh"
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:05
same as sephardics are mediterranean
serpente482
askenazis literally are
Randnew 10/18/2025 18:05
Jews mingled with the Germans & the Poles & the Russians
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:06
and thats what viking is using to describe "germanic"
Randnew 10/18/2025 18:06
lol
serpente482
so south africa?
GR 10/18/2025 18:11
south africans are white so obviously yes
18:11
what's the confusion there
GR
south africans are white so obviously yes
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:12
20% white country now counts as white
serpente482
20% white country now counts as white
GR 10/18/2025 18:13
obviously referring to the white people that live there
GR
obviously referring to the white people that live there
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:15
viking said anyone speaking germanic language
serpente482
viking said anyone speaking germanic language
GR 10/18/2025 18:17
he clearly means people that actually belong to that race and speak the language of their people whether that be german or english or swedish or whatever
18:18
everyone knows that a negro that speaks french still isn't french
GR
everyone knows that a negro that speaks french still isn't french
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:19
a negro that speaks french and embraced french culture and lives in france is french
serpente482
a negro that speaks french and embraced french culture and lives in france is french
GR 10/18/2025 18:20
incorrect
18:20
he has no ties to the blood of the french people
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:20
a "german" that lives in the USA doesnt speak german and doesnt have german culture is not german
GR
he has no ties to the blood of the french people
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:21
blood is part of the body
serpente482
a "german" that lives in the USA doesnt speak german and doesnt have german culture is not german
GR 10/18/2025 18:21
if he came from germany he is still german. Maybe his kids or his grandkids will be american though
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:21
culture is part of the soul
GR
if he came from germany he is still german. Maybe his kids or his grandkids will be american though
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:22
i meant people that say they are from there when they havent even put a foot in there
18:22
the american larpers
GR 10/18/2025 18:22
I guess but that's pretty trivial
18:22
don't really hear about that too often
serpente482
so south africa?
VikingTiger6 10/18/2025 18:22
yea, anglos and dutch are germanic
Randnew
Does that mean jews are Germanic beccause they speak Yiddish
VikingTiger6 10/18/2025 18:23
eh, id see it as they adopted germanic words because they live among them
GR
don't really hear about that too often
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:23
the guy who was here had a dutch flag said he was dutch when he was never there and didnt speak dutch
serpente482
the guy who was here had a dutch flag said he was dutch when he was never there and didnt speak dutch
GR 10/18/2025 18:23
that's discord larp man
18:23
lol
VikingTiger6
eh, id see it as they adopted germanic words because they live among them
Randnew 10/18/2025 18:23
joos will never be white
VikingTiger6 10/18/2025 18:23
yea, in the sense of what we see as white theyl never be
GR
that's discord larp man
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:24
exactly
18:24
and thats what saying "the best race of all time is"
18:24
discord larp
GR 10/18/2025 18:24
my stance on that is based purely on observation and it is completely outside of internet memes or larp (edited)
GR
my stance on that is based purely on observation and it is completely outside of internet memes or larp (edited)
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:24
observation of what?
18:25
propaganda?
serpente482
observation of what?
GR 10/18/2025 18:25
that germanics (really all white people) are the greatest of all time
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:25
if your "race" needed to be civilized by other race then its not the best race of all time
GR
that germanics (really all white people) are the greatest of all time
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:25
so germanic now is all white people instead of england netherlands germany and the rest of countries no one cares about
18:26
even whites from algeria?
18:26
or thats not white because potato
GR 10/18/2025 18:26
look man I really don't care about the specifics. When I say white people I mean northern/western european (edited)
18:27
that's what I am descendant of and that is what matters to me
GR
look man I really don't care about the specifics. When I say white people I mean northern/western european (edited)
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:28
when you say western european what do you mean?
18:29
by saying only those up north you are ignoring egypt, greece, rome, persia, ancient jews etc
18:29
thats thousands of years of history
18:29
what is even germanics history?
serpente482
when you say western european what do you mean?
GR 10/18/2025 18:30
GR
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serpente482 10/18/2025 18:30
so greatest race of all time history
GR 10/18/2025 18:30
what
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:30
adapted to roman culture and christianity (mediterranean)
18:30
larped as romans with the hre
18:31
didnt start colonization
18:31
didnt defeat islam
18:31
made industrial revolution
18:31
and instantly lose to jews somehow
18:31
thats greates race of all time?
GR 10/18/2025 18:31
obsessed med
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:31
obsessed mutt
18:32
jews built your nation and culture
18:32
the only thing you did was spread the disease
18:32
Israel is germanic
18:33
pirates and greedy liars
GR 10/18/2025 18:34
nothing but ad hominem
18:34
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:34
nothing but pain is what your "race" has caused
serpente482
nothing but pain is what your "race" has caused
GR 10/18/2025 18:35
I'm sure some races would say the same about yours
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:36
and those races would say that because jewish germanic propaganda has told them the reason their countries are so shitty is because spanish colonialism
Arcane BOT 10/18/2025 18:36
@serpente482 has reached level 83. GG!
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:36
when the people who condemned latin america were the free masons funded by britain
serpente482
and those races would say that because jewish germanic propaganda has told them the reason their countries are so shitty is because spanish colonialism
GR 10/18/2025 18:36
okay but all the dumb shit you say about mine is totally not the same jewish propaganda
18:36
whatever man
GR
okay but all the dumb shit you say about mine is totally not the same jewish propaganda
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:36
what dumb shit?
GR 10/18/2025 18:36
hold on let me scroll up 5 messages
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:36
what has your "race" done to be the greatest in history?
GR 10/18/2025 18:37
build the west
18:37
build the developed world as we know it
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:37
"build the west"
GR 10/18/2025 18:37
invent the technologies you and I use at this very moment
GR
invent the technologies you and I use at this very moment
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:37
thats post jewish occupation
18:37
yourself said it
serpente482
thats post jewish occupation
GR 10/18/2025 18:37
that was in regards to the government
18:37
good attempt there
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:38
greatest race in history is not 200 years
GR 10/18/2025 18:38
yeah it's thousands
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:38
what did germanics did in the ancient and medieval age?
18:39
they were uncivilized swine
18:40
If we were to weight the importance on human history the nation that comes on top is Italy
18:41
you cant say germanics were the greates when during the medieval ages they larped as italians
GR 10/18/2025 18:41
who cares
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:41
you do
18:41
because you said it
GR 10/18/2025 18:41
that they larped as italian? what lol
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:41
that they were the greatest for thousands of years
GR 10/18/2025 18:41
they still made an identity of themselves even if that were true
GR
they still made an identity of themselves even if that were true
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:42
what identity exactly
GR 10/18/2025 18:42
18:42
the german identity surely
GR
the german identity surely
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:43
pretzels and beer or whatever
serpente482
pretzels and beer or whatever
GR 10/18/2025 18:43
damn straight
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:43
and how is that the greatest in history?
18:43
thats the problem
18:44
you are elevating something that every nonbaby nation has and saying they are the best for having it
GR 10/18/2025 18:44
obviously a joke that last one
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:45
i asked if it was a joke and you said it was race realism
GR 10/18/2025 18:45
you keep zig zagging
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:46
i just want you to admit theres no point on saying the "greatest race of history"
GR 10/18/2025 18:46
not gonna happen
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:46
the greatest race of history is probably the race of the greatest man in history
18:46
Jesus
GR 10/18/2025 18:47
Jesus transcends race (edited)
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:47
exactly
18:47
so does christianity
18:47
but some larpers need to bring it up
GR 10/18/2025 18:47
which I don't disagree with
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:47
then say it
GR 10/18/2025 18:48
say what
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:48
theres no greatest race in history
18:48
christianity is all you need
GR 10/18/2025 18:48
why? how does that affect faith?
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:48
without christianity germanics would have kept being barbarians
18:48
dumb pagans
GR 10/18/2025 18:49
again I agree
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:49
so how can you say its the greatest race when nothing racial makes it good?
18:49
specially when they were other races that succeeded before christianity
18:50
Even indians did more than germanics
serpente482
so how can you say its the greatest race when nothing racial makes it good?
GR 10/18/2025 18:52
I don't understand what you're trying to argue here are you saying the race isn't special or that it doesn't matter anyway because we're equal under Christ
18:52
you're kind of all over the place
18:52
you seem to have an opinion on both
18:52
but if the latter is true why argue the former
GR
I don't understand what you're trying to argue here are you saying the race isn't special or that it doesn't matter anyway because we're equal under Christ
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:55
im saying races barely matter since Christ and that saying a race is the greatest of them all when all that race ever accomplished was because of Christ and not by themselves because before Christ they were inferior races is dumb
18:55
also that southern europe has historically been more important than northern europe
18:56
portugal has more weight than all of scandinavia and the baltics
serpente482
im saying races barely matter since Christ and that saying a race is the greatest of them all when all that race ever accomplished was because of Christ and not by themselves because before Christ they were inferior races is dumb
GR 10/18/2025 18:56
so you are arguing both
18:56
that's what I didn't understand
serpente482 10/18/2025 18:56
im not arguing with race in souther europe being better than northern europe
18:56
we are the same race
18:57
just saying the people who lived in those places did more than the ones living in the other ones
18:57
and that God has gifted that land with more health and beauty
18:57
its a fact the healtiest place in the world is in southern europe
18:58
just by climate
18:58
but its also true that in the last 200 years northern europe has surpassed the south in a lot of stuff
serpente482
its a fact the healtiest place in the world is in southern europe
GR 10/18/2025 18:58
serpente482
just by climate
GR 10/18/2025 18:59
climate health depends on genetics and race
GR
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serpente482 10/18/2025 19:00
GR
climate health depends on genetics and race
GR 10/18/2025 19:00
a mediterranean would not be as healthy in norway or vice versa
GR
a mediterranean would not be as healthy in norway or vice versa
serpente482 10/18/2025 19:01
of course
19:01
but the healthiest humans are usually mediterranean
19:02
GR 10/18/2025 19:02
in terms of climate health yes. Different amounts of sunlight absorption
serpente482 10/18/2025 19:03
health and faith is all you need
GR 10/18/2025 19:03
meds adapted to it much like the nordics did to theirs
serpente482
health and faith is all you need
GR 10/18/2025 19:04
I agree
serpente482 10/18/2025 19:04
so stop using nazi rethorics
19:04
theres no greatest race
19:05
and ww2 was barely about christianity
serpente482
theres no greatest race
GR 10/18/2025 19:05
the sub saharan africans will keep their health and faith and still live in mudhuts the europeans will keep their health and faith and still build cathedrals and cities
serpente482
and ww2 was barely about christianity
GR 10/18/2025 19:07
ww2 in europe was the final crusade against atheism (bolshevism)
GR
the sub saharan africans will keep their health and faith and still live in mudhuts the europeans will keep their health and faith and still build cathedrals and cities
serpente482 10/18/2025 19:34
The people of northern europe were doing that before christianity got to them. Christianity is still reaching them, they can change so they will change. Mikko is proof not everyone of them is the same
GR
ww2 in europe was the final crusade against atheism (bolshevism)
serpente482 10/18/2025 19:35
No it wasnt
19:36
You cant say Japan Germany and Italy were the pillars of christianity when only one and a half of those were christian
19:37
Decolonization was the thing that harmed christianity the most
19:38
Decolonization mentality is what harms it today
19:38
Ww2 wasnt about colonization vs decolonization
19:39
But the winners USA and USRR were the decolonizers
19:39
Britain, France and the rest werent for it
19:39
But germany destroyed them
19:40
So they lost power
19:40
And in that power inbalance the same people who were already the puppet masters of USSR and USA took over
19:41
And thats how europe died
19:41
Because nazism capitalism and communism all together
19:41
Money is an idol and those who adore it will doom us
19:43
We need to be humble and live to please Christ without letting money consume us and being against the economic cult
serpente482
The people of northern europe were doing that before christianity got to them. Christianity is still reaching them, they can change so they will change. Mikko is proof not everyone of them is the same
GR 10/18/2025 20:02
So were they already building great nations before Christianity or were they "uncivilized swine" before Christianity got to them? It can't be both >Mikko is proof no every one of them is the same Of course, but you and I both know that men like Mikko are a rare occurrence (2nd point) Germany and Italy were both around 95% Christian. Japan was merely an "ally" to the axis as to keep potential threats at bay, much like the USSR in the beginning of the war. WW2 was about keeping Europe as Europe. Europe is inherently Christian in identity therefore it was a war for Christianity much the same as the crusades over a thousand years ago. It's ironic you also admit Europe died when Germany lost >money is an idol and those who adore it will doom us The Germans knew this
GR
So were they already building great nations before Christianity or were they "uncivilized swine" before Christianity got to them? It can't be both >Mikko is proof no every one of them is the same Of course, but you and I both know that men like Mikko are a rare occurrence (2nd point) Germany and Italy were both around 95% Christian. Japan was merely an "ally" to the axis as to keep potential threats at bay, much like the USSR in the beginning of the war. WW2 was about keeping Europe as Europe. Europe is inherently Christian in identity therefore it was a war for Christianity much the same as the crusades over a thousand years ago. It's ironic you also admit Europe died when Germany lost >money is an idol and those who adore it will doom us The Germans knew this
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:17
they were uncivilized swine before christianity
serpente482
they were uncivilized swine before christianity
GR 10/18/2025 20:18
how were they creating civilization if they were uncivilized then
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:18
95% of europe was christian in all sides
GR
how were they creating civilization if they were uncivilized then
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:18
oonga boonga civilization is not civilization
serpente482
oonga boonga civilization is not civilization
GR 10/18/2025 20:19
I said cathedrals and cities and you said they were already doing that
GR
I said cathedrals and cities and you said they were already doing that
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:19
what?
serpente482
The people of northern europe were doing that before christianity got to them. Christianity is still reaching them, they can change so they will change. Mikko is proof not everyone of them is the same
GR 10/18/2025 20:23
this
20:24
you said they were doing it before Christianity got to them
GR
you said they were doing it before Christianity got to them
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:24
i said they were doing what niggers in africa do now
20:24
not building cathedrals
GR 10/18/2025 20:24
well then sorry that wasn't made clear
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:24
ok
GR 10/18/2025 20:25
and I wasn't talking about then I was talking about now
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:25
they havent been civilized by the people of God yet
serpente482
they havent been civilized by the people of God yet
GR 10/18/2025 20:26
then they never will be because we have been evangelizing them for hundreds of years
20:26
but that isn't the case
GR
then they never will be because we have been evangelizing them for hundreds of years
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:27
latin america didnt become the biggest christian region in the first hundred years
20:27
African colonization didnt last practically anything
GR 10/18/2025 20:28
evangelization in africa wasn't strictly colonization
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:28
also in addition some colonial powers were never too interested in propagating christianity because the mentality of "only our race" was strong
20:28
evangelization in africa was never very strong
20:29
Only the Church is interested in evangelization and the Church isnt always the one calling the shots in colonization
20:29
Governments want evangelization when it benefits them
serpente482
evangelization in africa was never very strong
GR 10/18/2025 20:29
this is just a huge lie
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:30
key word evangelical
GR 10/18/2025 20:30
so what nigga
20:30
it's bringing them the Scriptures
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:30
evangelical can be whatever they want
GR
it's bringing them the Scriptures
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:31
its bringing them the scriptures and telling them to interpret it however they want
20:31
Jesus was black people
GR 10/18/2025 20:31
making disciples of all nations doesn't mean making them papists
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:31
it does
GR 10/18/2025 20:31
it's bringing them faith in Christ which is super important
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:31
it is
20:32
but when it comes to christian culture
20:32
evangelicals dont share the culture so they let their cultures not change
GR 10/18/2025 20:32
maybe catholics should make disciples in africa instead of the hecking evil evangelicals then
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:32
we do
20:32
we have the most missionaires there
serpente482
we have the most missionaires there
GR 10/18/2025 20:34
20:34
GR
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serpente482 10/18/2025 20:34
i said missionaires
GR 10/18/2025 20:35
how do you think it gets there
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:35
also arent pentecostals the ones who work for the cia and shout in churches?
GR 10/18/2025 20:35
no those are non-denominationals
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:35
Latin America has a lot of evangelicals because of the cia
GR 10/18/2025 20:35
actually it is kinda pentecostals yeah
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:36
also arent pentecostals the ones who worship israel?
GR 10/18/2025 20:37
pentecostals probably participate in that a lot but it's mostly non-denominationals
Arcane BOT 10/18/2025 20:37
@GR has reached level 39. GG!
serpente482 10/18/2025 20:39
evangelicals are good at preaching and sharing the gospel
20:39
but i dont think those churches will last much
20:39
on the grand scheme of time
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/18/2025 21:11
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Randnew
Mikko is a shitskin?
Ski Squire 10/18/2025 22:32
Yes? Mikko is black?
Ski Squire
Yes? Mikko is black?
Randnew 10/19/2025 02:43
@Мико⚜🐾 what the fluck
02:43
You made us all think you're white
Randnew
@Мико⚜🐾 what the fluck
Ski Squire 10/19/2025 09:41
is it bad that he's black?
09:41
he doesn't hide it
09:41
he's an awesome guy, this changes nothing
Randnew
You made us all think you're white
Мико⚜🐾 10/19/2025 11:05
How?
11:05
Мико⚜🐾 10/19/2025 11:13
https://youtu.be/2BliiHVYngc
Orthodox Wisdom
Why Should We Dress Modestly? - Fr. Daniel Sysoev Answers
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Randnew
You made us all think you're white
Ski Squire 10/19/2025 12:02
have u ever heard him in vc?
12:02
he sounds standard black british person
Randnew
You made us all think you're white
serpente482 10/19/2025 12:15
bro didnt know the most standard avericord lore
Ski Squire
he sounds standard black british person
Randnew 10/19/2025 14:25
All British people sound the same
14:26
Except for Scottish people
Randnew
All British people sound the same
Ski Squire 10/19/2025 14:26
the reverse happens to me, all americans sound the same (edited)
Ski Squire
the reverse happens to me, all americans sound the same (edited)
Randnew 10/19/2025 14:27
Alabamans & Minnesotans?
14:27
They sound the same?
Randnew
Alabamans & Minnesotans?
Ski Squire 10/19/2025 14:27
like
14:27
theres normal american
14:27
and then texan type accent
14:27
those are the 2 only distinctions (edited)
Ski Squire
those are the 2 only distinctions (edited)
Randnew 10/19/2025 14:28
I agree actually
14:28
Those are the only 2 accents here
14:28
Well also New Yorkers
14:28
So 3
14:29
& then black people talk
Randnew
Well also New Yorkers
Ski Squire 10/19/2025 14:29
fair enough thats also one
Randnew 10/19/2025 14:29
so 4
Ski Squire 10/19/2025 14:29
(2 that belong to actual humans)
Randnew 10/19/2025 14:29
But black people talk is mostly the same as southern accent
Ski Squire 10/19/2025 14:29
(texan and default american)
Randnew 10/19/2025 14:29
lol
14:30
I use a lot of black talk in my normal speech with friends
14:30
I think dialects have the tendency to do that
14:30
Influence each other
14:31
Like in German they say "Digga" all the time but that was initially just a northern thing
14:31
Dumb example tk use a language I don't know but it's true
Randnew
You made us all think you're white
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/19/2025 14:35
Wdym?
14:36
My Caribbean man is darker than the night sky.
14:36
God's beautiful melonated creation.
Randnew
I use a lot of black talk in my normal speech with friends
Ski Squire 10/19/2025 14:54
same lol
14:54
genz slang is pretty influenced by black communities
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Wdym?
Ski Squire 10/19/2025 14:56
is that a pic of mikko?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/19/2025 14:57
Yes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Yes
hypercoasterfan 10/19/2025 15:40
Where
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Yes
Ski Squire 10/19/2025 15:53
he's fine with face revealing?
15:53
damn
15:53
balls on that bro
15:53
respect it
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/19/2025 15:54
He posted that photo himself
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
He posted that photo himself
Ski Squire 10/19/2025 15:56
yea, so he is fine with face revealing, so i respect it massively
hypercoasterfan
Where
Мико⚜🐾 10/19/2025 16:50
This is my church, I was being chrismated
Мико⚜🐾
This is my church, I was being chrismated
hypercoasterfan 10/19/2025 16:54
Daymn
Мико⚜🐾 10/19/2025 16:54
Мико⚜🐾
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Ski Squire 10/19/2025 17:00
beautiful tbh
Мико⚜🐾
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hypercoasterfan 10/19/2025 17:05
this will always be better than what a megachurch can offer
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17:06
Btw a megachurch has the largest indoor auditorium in my country as its main venue
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hypercoasterfan
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Ski Squire 10/19/2025 17:10
anything but actually praise God
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Мико⚜🐾
This is my church, I was being chrismated
Randnew 10/19/2025 17:18
Sacrament of Confirmation?
17:18
That's what we call it in the Catholic church
17:19
They anoint you with chrism oil
17:19
I have a video of myself getting baptized earlier this year
Randnew
Sacrament of Confirmation?
Мико⚜🐾 10/19/2025 17:21
yes
17:21
it’s confirmation
Мико⚜🐾
it’s confirmation
Randnew 10/19/2025 18:48
Amen;
18:48
The chrism oil takes a week to wash out
18:48
Hard to get rid of the smell
18:49
I think the exact type of oil has been traditionally used for centuries
18:49
In both churches if I recall correctly
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/19/2025 22:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11ZUEZ3SIgE
Patristic Nectar
AI Erotica
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/19/2025 22:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtXHPJlRonE
Apologetics Roadshow
You Have No Clue How Many Muslims Are Leaving Islam!
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/20/2025 20:34
Matthew 7:16
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<16> You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles?
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/21/2025 20:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGzdUf1SAIk
Metatron
Christianity is under attack
Мико⚜🐾 10/22/2025 17:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fSV9T-rK-E
Orthodox Church
Orthodox Patriarch Cyril cries during Lent Divine Liturgy
Мико⚜🐾
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fSV9T-rK-E
Мико⚜🐾 10/22/2025 17:49
Let my prayer arise in thy sight as incense; and let the lifting up of my hands be an evening sacrifice. Lord, I call upon thee, hear me; receive the voice of my prayer, when I call upon thee. Set a guard, O Lord, over my mouth, and keep watch over the door of my lips. Incline not my heart to evil words, nor to make excuses for sins.
Мико⚜🐾
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fSV9T-rK-E
kuba929 10/22/2025 19:37
This is funnily enough the first time I realized Kyrill=Cyril We Czechs just say Cyril.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/25/2025 10:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF6RQtTeSPQ
Patristic Nectar
The Devils Have Us
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/25/2025 15:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEzgl0stduQ
Bornstellar
Hazbin Hotel is Demonic Propaganda
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEzgl0stduQ
NRG Balbodane 10/25/2025 15:27
You dont say
Мико⚜🐾 10/25/2025 19:32
"The Lord patiently endured for our sake a death He was not obliged to undergo, to redeem us, who were obliged to suffer death, from servitude to the Devil and death, by which I mean death both of the soul and of the body, temporary and eternal."
`St. Gregory Palamas, Homily 16`
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Мико⚜🐾 10/25/2025 19:49
19:50
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/25/2025 19:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD57FG7pZ38
Brian Holdsworth
The Malice of Liberal Christianity
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Bro
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How
VikingTiger6 10/27/2025 13:22
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Мико⚜🐾 10/27/2025 20:31
https://livingorthodoxfaith.blogspot.com/2009/11/divine-providence-by-st-john-of-tobolsk.html
Divine Providence by St. John of Tobolsk
What is Providence? It is one of the basic characteristics of God – to see all that is going on, was going on, and will be going on in the f...
hypercoasterfan 10/27/2025 20:44
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 10/30/2025 17:39
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Q6W4YJ7Ik
Father Spyridon
THE HIDDEN HATRED THAT CONDEMNS US
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Мико⚜🐾 10/31/2025 14:16
‘When we think of the risen Christ appearing to His disciples and giving them His hands to touch, inviting Thomas the Apostle to test the reality and the depth of the wounds on His hands and feet and side, we tend to forget that in His Ascension also Christ bore in His flesh the wounds inflicted by our sins; that in some incomprehensible way Christ, not only risen, but having ascended into heaven and sitting in glory on the right hand of God the Father, bears in His human flesh the wounds that the human sin has inflicted. He still carries our human frailty on His shoulders, and both Christ’s Resurrection and the terrible days of His Passion are now, so to speak, enshrined in the mystery of the Triune God, the Trinity Holy, Incomprehensible, Great. All the sorrow of the world, all the sin, all the pain, all the horror were laid on Christ, and neither by His Resurrection nor by His Ascension in glory did He throw them off. Christ remains the Lamb of God slain before the creation of the world for the salvation of the world.’
`Metropolitan Anthony Bloom, Newsletter No. 121 (18/5/1980)`
Мико⚜🐾 11/03/2025 13:04
‘You ask, “How should one be with regard to singing and playing on the piano and harmonium? I used to sing and play without paying attention to the content of the pieces, and now it is on my mind. As you certainly know, not all pieces have good content, although they may have a nice melody.” What should you do? It is impossible for you to change everything at once. This is immediately obvious. Sing and play as you used to, trying not to pay attention to the content. In the meantime, start selecting songs with good or perhaps just tolerable content, and sing and play these more, until finally you completely forget the others that make up your singing and playing. The harmonium is very capable of expressing church hymns in the necessary manner. Get the compositions of (Archpriest) Turchaninov, and learn the ones you like best. Learn “God Save the Tsar,” “How Glorious is our Lord in Zion,” and the like. If you sing these with complete feeling, I assure you that you will like this sort of singing better than the other. You will then be asked to sing and play not some frivolous little songs, but these majestic compositions. Some time ago, you said that you received compliments on your voice and singing. They do what they do, and you do what you do. When both things are good, it would be impossible not to praise you. But you should not pride yourself on what people say, you should be humble. Where did your voice and taste for singing come from? God gave these to you. Why did God give them? To stir up rumours among other people, or for some other reason? For no other reason than that you turn them to the praise of God. Have you done this? No. You have only amused yourself and others, but you have made no mention of God at all. Therefore, you have misused your Divine gift, squandering it on frivolous things. Now the thoughts that you turned toward pleasing God should also be turned toward using your Divine gift.
Мико⚜🐾
‘You ask, “How should one be with regard to singing and playing on the piano and harmonium? I used to sing and play without paying attention to the content of the pieces, and now it is on my mind. As you certainly know, not all pieces have good content, although they may have a nice melody.” What should you do? It is impossible for you to change everything at once. This is immediately obvious. Sing and play as you used to, trying not to pay attention to the content. In the meantime, start selecting songs with good or perhaps just tolerable content, and sing and play these more, until finally you completely forget the others that make up your singing and playing. The harmonium is very capable of expressing church hymns in the necessary manner. Get the compositions of (Archpriest) Turchaninov, and learn the ones you like best. Learn “God Save the Tsar,” “How Glorious is our Lord in Zion,” and the like. If you sing these with complete feeling, I assure you that you will like this sort of singing better than the other. You will then be asked to sing and play not some frivolous little songs, but these majestic compositions. Some time ago, you said that you received compliments on your voice and singing. They do what they do, and you do what you do. When both things are good, it would be impossible not to praise you. But you should not pride yourself on what people say, you should be humble. Where did your voice and taste for singing come from? God gave these to you. Why did God give them? To stir up rumours among other people, or for some other reason? For no other reason than that you turn them to the praise of God. Have you done this? No. You have only amused yourself and others, but you have made no mention of God at all. Therefore, you have misused your Divine gift, squandering it on frivolous things. Now the thoughts that you turned toward pleasing God should also be turned toward using your Divine gift.
Мико⚜🐾 11/03/2025 13:04
If one is to eat and drink to the glory of God, the more so should one sing and play music. If you were to play and sing something that made an impression on the souls of the listeners and caused them to be inspired toward the Lord and rise up to Him with praise and thanksgiving, you would be doing the same thing that a good preacher does in church. This is the fruit of your gift! Direct, as you will, the use of it toward this. Select both secular and religious songs that are edifying and sing and play only these. This is for other people; you should never sing secular songs for yourself, just religious ones. I repeat again, do not change everything suddenly, but gradually.’
`St. Theophan Zatvornik, The Spiritual Life & How to be Attuned to It, Letter 63`
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/03/2025 22:19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RT3RcuTOJ4
Patristic Nectar
Why Pornography Is Destroying Souls and Nations
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Мико⚜🐾 11/04/2025 22:01
‘For as being in no degree ashamed to call us brethren, whose likeness He took, therefore, having transferred to Himself our poverty, He is sanctified with us, although Himself the Sanctifier of all creation; that thou might not see Him refusing the measure of human nature, Who consented for the salvation and life of all to become man.’
`St. Cyril of Alexandria, Sermon XII on Luke`
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/05/2025 22:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B2xvw0SzS0
Faith Talks
Wes Huff Just EXPOSED Islam's Dirty Secret LIVE On Stage
22:00
The internet has utterly sodomized Islam
22:04
Also question for @Christ's Strongest Warrior, what is your favourite argument for the validity of Christianity?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/05/2025 22:16
For me it's this: If we stick to purely the facts we have a man named Jesus who really did exist and who was crucified under Pontius Pilate - the vast majority of historians confirm this, even Atheist historians. Then following His crucifixion we have people worshipping this man named Jesus and calling Him God. Not only that but these same people had to endure oppression, extreme torture and even death for the declaration that this man, Jesus, is God. Psychology has found that people do not willingly die for something that they think might be a falsehood. The common counter argument I hear to this is "mass hallucinations", but there are two massive problem with this argument: Firstly, these many people to all have schizophrenia or some adjacent mental illness is mathematically impossible. Secondly, throughout the whole study of psychology, it has been found that no two people with schizophrenia will ever experience the same hallucination. Each one has unique hallucinations. Which leads us to two possible conclusions: 1. Somehow, all of these people were convinced of this and threw away both comfort and even their lives for carpenter who lived in the desert. Or 2. This carpenter really was who he said he was and he really did rise from the grave.
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Мико⚜🐾 11/06/2025 22:53
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/07/2025 12:38
@serpente482 @Randnew @ungen Why do we perform the sign of the cross before prayer?
12:40
I have my own theory as to why but I'm curious to know
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@serpente482 @Randnew @ungen Why do we perform the sign of the cross before prayer?
serpente482 11/07/2025 12:54
cuz its powerful
12:54
and helps us remind us of the trinity and the nature of Jesus
serpente482
cuz its powerful
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/07/2025 12:55
More or less in line with what I was thinking.
12:56
We know that demons fear Jesus and by extension the cross. And when you pray you are opening yourself up to the spiritual realm, which means it's possible for demons to intercept. My idea is that we do the sign of the cross so to ensure our prayers are not intercepted.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/08/2025 00:06
1 Corinthians 1:18
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Christ the Power and Wisdom of God
<18> For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
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1 Corinthians 1:18 - Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Christ the Power and Wisdom of God
<18> For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/08/2025 00:07
1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV
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<18> For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@serpente482 @Randnew @ungen Why do we perform the sign of the cross before prayer?
Randnew 11/08/2025 01:00
It's a sacramental
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Randnew 11/08/2025 01:07
GEM
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GEM
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GEM
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MIKKO
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WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS
01:08
Original sin is one of those doctrines that most people in the church have a flawed understanding of
01:08
I went on record before about how terribly-understood it is
01:08
Original sin is voluntary
01:10
Pop-apologists love to give you some BS & say something like "You are predisposed towards sin at birth BUT it's not your fault"
01:11
The original sin is a sin that all of humanity partook in
01:11
Yes, it's true that WE ALL didn't eat the forbidden fruit
01:11
But humanity is a family
01:11
One big family
01:11
We share the same nature
01:11
Our will is part of that nature
01:12
& it is a free will oriented towards good
01:12
But we all inherit the defect of sin by inheriting the same nature
01:12
Which includes the will to commit the original sin
01:14
Yes you actually are born in iniquity
Arcane BOT 11/08/2025 01:14
@Randnew has reached level 38. GG!
Randnew 11/08/2025 01:14
The problem or evil isn't merely Adam & Eve ate the fruit
01:14
Yes it is that
01:14
But that is us
01:15
Those are our mother & father
01:15
We did not personally partake on the original sin, but we inherit the will
01:16
& it's not like you never had the choice to be good. You did. But you forsook it voluntarily because you inherited the will
01:16
This is the actual understanding of original sin that the church holds
01:16
This is the view that Aquinas held
01:16
& it's the most rational
Randnew
WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS
Мико⚜🐾 11/08/2025 10:13
My friend sent me an excerpt of another book he had written
10:13
So I checked his stuff out and found this
Мико⚜🐾
My friend sent me an excerpt of another book he had written
Randnew 11/08/2025 16:48
ay cool friend
16:48
where did you meet him (edited)
Randnew
where did you meet him (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 11/08/2025 16:57
Met him online, but we see eachother irl
Мико⚜🐾
Met him online, but we see eachother irl
Randnew 11/08/2025 17:18
Benefits of living in Europe
17:19
If they speak the same language, they live nearby
17:19
We don't got that in the US
17:19
You may meet someone online over here who speaks your dialect but is a 9 hour drive away
17:19
Meanwhile
17:20
If you're Polish
17:20
& you meet another Polish-speaker online
17:20
IMMEDIATELY you know they live close
17:20
& you can IRL meetup
Randnew
IMMEDIATELY you know they live close
serpente482 11/08/2025 17:43
it not like that
serpente482
it not like that
Randnew 11/08/2025 17:44
yes
17:44
at worst they're a 4-hour drive away
serpente482 11/08/2025 17:44
thats only if they live in the same city
Randnew
at worst they're a 4-hour drive away
serpente482 11/08/2025 17:44
not true
serpente482
thats only if they live in the same city
Randnew 11/08/2025 17:44
Europe is tiny
17:45
teeny tiny continent
17:45
so smol I could pick it up
serpente482 11/08/2025 17:45
@HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA lives 9h away from me
serpente482
@HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA lives 9h away from me
Randnew 11/08/2025 17:45
your roads suck
serpente482
@HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA lives 9h away from me
Randnew 11/08/2025 17:47
whoa wtf
17:47
okay maybe you're right...
17:48
...maybe...
17:49
still tiny
17:50
You know how long it takes me to get to Roseburg Oregon? Probably just 4 hours
17:50
or less
17:50
granted
17:50
I can see how that's take a long time to drive if your roads don't go straight across
Randnew
your roads suck
serpente482 11/08/2025 18:23
spain is very rocky
Randnew
You know how long it takes me to get to Roseburg Oregon? Probably just 4 hours
serpente482 11/08/2025 18:24
from where?
Randnew
whoa wtf
VikingTiger6 11/08/2025 18:26
Thats like an 8 hour car ride from one side to other right? It'd take about that to travel that far in BC
18:26
Oh wait it tells me
18:26
9 hours
serpente482
from where?
Randnew 11/08/2025 18:27
libshitington
Randnew
libshitington
serpente482 11/08/2025 18:30
do you live in seattle?
18:30
thats where icarly was from
serpente482
do you live in seattle?
Randnew 11/08/2025 18:30
I don't want to dox myself
serpente482
thats where icarly was from
Randnew 11/08/2025 18:30
WTF REALLY?
18:30
I had no idea
18:30
I watched that a bit when I was little
serpente482 11/08/2025 18:31
yeah
Randnew 11/08/2025 18:31
We're the home of Microsoft & Kurt Cobain & Starbucks & most importantly, ME
serpente482 11/08/2025 18:31
it had that weird tower from seattle that looks like a generic building but its cool because its big and slightly different than the rectangle formula
Randnew 11/08/2025 18:31
We're also a mega leftist breeding ground
serpente482 11/08/2025 18:32
a furry girl i knew was also from there
18:32
she was nice
18:32
straight
18:32
she hated everyone and was lonely i think
18:32
also she liked glaceon
18:32
very important
18:32
i wonder what was of her
18:33
she left the net
serpente482
she hated everyone and was lonely i think
Randnew 11/08/2025 19:21
cute
19:21
I need her #
19:21
right meow
serpente482 11/08/2025 19:22
She was an instagram glaceon roleplay account
serpente482
@HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA lives 9h away from me
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 11/08/2025 20:16
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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serpente482 11/08/2025 21:47
leete la Biblia saselandia
Мико⚜🐾 11/10/2025 09:27
Question: ‘Hello! I am an Orthodox Christian and I try to be devout in my faith. I joined the furry fandom about 6 months ago. Personally, I do not identify as an animal & do not consider myself as one (I don’t eat from a dog bowl.) I do not support LGBT ideology, & I stand for traditional values. I am simply fond of anthropomorphic animals—something I’ve liked since childhood. I love the idea, portraits, any kind of art related to them. I know the Lord is most important. I want to ask though: Am I mistaken?’ Answer from Fr. Eugene Vesyolov: ‘First of all I will say that it isn’t quite right to equate God with fictional characters created for entertainment. Therefore, I advise you to read the Gospel attentively every day, preferably one chapter—or as much as you can. While reading, try to put into practice what is written, asking God for help. And pray daily. To find a purpose in life and to gain an experience of the divine, it is extremely important to participate regularly in the sacraments of confession and communion. If you try to organize your life in this way, then within a year you will feel inwardly which of your hobbies & amusements are morally permissible for a teenager, and which are inappropriate or outright sinful.’ Answer from Reader Sergius Fedorov: ‘As long as it stays at the level of a hobby and does not distract a person from important matters, it, in my opinion, is harmless. When a person begins to immerse themselves in it completely, spending an unreasonably large amount of time on the hobby, it becomes a moral problem.’
`‘Furries: Can they be Orthodox?’, from Azbyka’s Questions & Answers` (edited)
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09:29
‘There is neither debauchery nor vulgarity in anime. I think that many contemporary teenage books published by Orthodox presses would only improve their design with such illustrations. I can well see the books of Julia Voznesenskaya or “Dimon” (by Alexander Torik) being published with anime illustrations.’ ‘..Anime—it is not a window into the sky. It is rather an attempt to remind us of the sky. Therefore, one should not treat anime more seriously than as ordinary children's illustrations. And anime enthusiasts themselves do not think so either....Unfortunately, the fact that our culture does not yet have the strength for independent creativity is indisputable. This explains the widespread adoption of other cultural paradigms. One consolation: this borrowing enriches culture, and from it one can create something new, using what has been acquired as bricks. This already happened during the Russian “Art Nouveau” movement. Maybe it can happen now as well.’
`Hieromartyr Sysoev, https://pr-daniil.livejournal.com/43337.html`
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09:32
‘True, there are earthly joys which elevate the soul. There is no sin, for example, in enjoying the beauty of this world. On the earth there are extraordinarily beautiful places… Comely also is our northern landscape. Turgenev vividly and brilliantly described it in his works. He, by the way, was at Optina and admired the beauty of our monastery. But the present world bears only a faint resemblance to the world that once existed before the Fall. There is a heavenly world, the beauty of which we cannot fathom, and only holy people perceive it and enjoy it. That world remained unharmed, but the earthly world changed dramatically after the Fall. It’s as if someone split up the finest musical composition, for example Beethoven’s, into different keys; the complete experience would then fail to take place. Or, if a painting, for example Raphael’s, was ripped to shreds and we studied the individual pieces. What would we see? Some finger here, on another scrap a piece of clothing, etc., but the majestic effect that Raphael imparted to the work, we of course would not perceive. Break up a magnificent article into pieces and a beautiful impression is not achieved. It is the same with the present world.’
`Saint Barsanuphius of Optina` (edited)
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Мико⚜🐾
Question: ‘Hello! I am an Orthodox Christian and I try to be devout in my faith. I joined the furry fandom about 6 months ago. Personally, I do not identify as an animal & do not consider myself as one (I don’t eat from a dog bowl.) I do not support LGBT ideology, & I stand for traditional values. I am simply fond of anthropomorphic animals—something I’ve liked since childhood. I love the idea, portraits, any kind of art related to them. I know the Lord is most important. I want to ask though: Am I mistaken?’ Answer from Fr. Eugene Vesyolov: ‘First of all I will say that it isn’t quite right to equate God with fictional characters created for entertainment. Therefore, I advise you to read the Gospel attentively every day, preferably one chapter—or as much as you can. While reading, try to put into practice what is written, asking God for help. And pray daily. To find a purpose in life and to gain an experience of the divine, it is extremely important to participate regularly in the sacraments of confession and communion. If you try to organize your life in this way, then within a year you will feel inwardly which of your hobbies & amusements are morally permissible for a teenager, and which are inappropriate or outright sinful.’ Answer from Reader Sergius Fedorov: ‘As long as it stays at the level of a hobby and does not distract a person from important matters, it, in my opinion, is harmless. When a person begins to immerse themselves in it completely, spending an unreasonably large amount of time on the hobby, it becomes a moral problem.’
`‘Furries: Can they be Orthodox?’, from Azbyka’s Questions & Answers` (edited)
дмитрий 11/10/2025 12:23
@khaybar
Мико⚜🐾
‘True, there are earthly joys which elevate the soul. There is no sin, for example, in enjoying the beauty of this world. On the earth there are extraordinarily beautiful places… Comely also is our northern landscape. Turgenev vividly and brilliantly described it in his works. He, by the way, was at Optina and admired the beauty of our monastery. But the present world bears only a faint resemblance to the world that once existed before the Fall. There is a heavenly world, the beauty of which we cannot fathom, and only holy people perceive it and enjoy it. That world remained unharmed, but the earthly world changed dramatically after the Fall. It’s as if someone split up the finest musical composition, for example Beethoven’s, into different keys; the complete experience would then fail to take place. Or, if a painting, for example Raphael’s, was ripped to shreds and we studied the individual pieces. What would we see? Some finger here, on another scrap a piece of clothing, etc., but the majestic effect that Raphael imparted to the work, we of course would not perceive. Break up a magnificent article into pieces and a beautiful impression is not achieved. It is the same with the present world.’
`Saint Barsanuphius of Optina` (edited)
khaybar 11/10/2025 16:50
This is a great answer bro
16:50
Good read
16:51
I might make my first video about that
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
For me it's this: If we stick to purely the facts we have a man named Jesus who really did exist and who was crucified under Pontius Pilate - the vast majority of historians confirm this, even Atheist historians. Then following His crucifixion we have people worshipping this man named Jesus and calling Him God. Not only that but these same people had to endure oppression, extreme torture and even death for the declaration that this man, Jesus, is God. Psychology has found that people do not willingly die for something that they think might be a falsehood. The common counter argument I hear to this is "mass hallucinations", but there are two massive problem with this argument: Firstly, these many people to all have schizophrenia or some adjacent mental illness is mathematically impossible. Secondly, throughout the whole study of psychology, it has been found that no two people with schizophrenia will ever experience the same hallucination. Each one has unique hallucinations. Which leads us to two possible conclusions: 1. Somehow, all of these people were convinced of this and threw away both comfort and even their lives for carpenter who lived in the desert. Or 2. This carpenter really was who he said he was and he really did rise from the grave.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/10/2025 18:18
My atheist colleague/friend yet again decided to stir up a religious debate. So I read this post out as it was a nice collage of my thoughts on the topic and, I shit you not, his immediate response was "Yeah but they were probably all high on Mushrooms" EVEN AFTER I DEBUNKED THAT VERY ARGUMENT IN THE SAME POST
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18:18
I'm not engaging him in debate anymore because he proved in that moment, that he does not actually listen to what I say.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/10/2025 18:45
Walking into every debate saying "Abortion is not okay" then proceeding to not elaborate.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Walking into every debate saying "Abortion is not okay" then proceeding to not elaborate.
khaybar 11/11/2025 02:37
sure to spark a commotion
Мико⚜🐾 11/11/2025 10:07
‘Poetry and art tear the soul away from everyday trifles and give a person aesthetic delight. In the eighteenth century, under the expansion of a materialistic trend, a view emerged that poets and artists are useless people, that they just sit and don’t do anything. Victor Hugo said in defence, “Gazing at the sky is already an accomplishment.” Serious music, like that of Mozart, Beethoven and others, acts in a refining way on the soul; often under its influence one wants to weep and pray.’
`Saint Barsanuphius of Optina`
Мико⚜🐾 11/11/2025 11:45
‘..The child who has been exposed from his earliest years to good classical music, and has seen his soul being developed by it, will not be nearly as tempted by the crude rhythm and message of rock and other contemporary forms of pseudo-music as someone who has grown up without a musical education. Such a musical education, as several of the Optina elders have said, refines the soul and prepares it for the reception of spiritual impressions. The child who has been educated in good literature, drama, and poetry and has felt their effect in his own soul—that is, has really enjoyed them—, will not easily become an addict of the contemporary movies and television programs and cheap novels that devastate the soul and take it away from the Christian path. The child who has learned to see beauty in classical painting and sculpture will not easily be drawn into the perversity of contemporary art or be attracted by the garish products of modern advertising and pornography. The child who knows something of the history of the world, especially in Christian times, and how other people have lived and thought, what mistakes and pitfalls people have fallen into by departing from God and His commandments, and what glorious and influential lives they have lived when they were faithful to Him—will be discerning about the life and philosophy of our own times and will not be inclined to follow the first new philosophy or way of life he encounters. One of the basic problems facing the education of children today is that in the schools they are no longer given a sense of history. It is a dangerous and fatal thing to deprive a child of a sense of history. It means that he has no ability to take examples from the people who lived in the past. And actually, history constantly repeats itself. Once you see that, it becomes interesting how people have answered problems, how there have been people who have gone against God and what results came from that, and how people changed their lives and became exceptions and gave an example which is lived down to our own times. This sense of history is a very important thing which should be communicated to children. In general, the person who is well acquainted with the best products of secular culture—which in the West almost always has definite religious and Christian overtones—has a much better chance of leading a normal, fruitful Orthodox life than someone who knows only the popular culture of today.’
`bl. Seraphim Rose`
Мико⚜🐾 11/11/2025 12:26
‘What is progress? In contrast to the conventional view of progress as a gradual attainment of the universal, earthly well-being, Christianity does not see this as a quantitative concept. Progress is a slow and painful differentiation between good and evil, the gradual differentiation of mixed and disparate elements that slowly become irreconcilable. On the one hand, Christ will reunite matter with the divine principle, ready to restore harmony; on the other hand, the scattered, self-asserting atoms will be led by Antichrist.’
`Hieromartyr Valentine Sventitsky`
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/12/2025 18:46
Some food for thought boys, as you know I am always in my own thoughts so I tend to think deeply on things. I've been thinking about what it truly means to be like Christ. To submit to Him, carry your cross and deny yourself and each time I think back to how Jesus forgave His mockers while being strung on the cross. The question then arises, could I do the same thing? Could I find it in me to forgive even the most vile of people? Jesus forgave His mockers because He loves them and wants only for all of His children to come home. If we are to be like Christ then we should want the same for others, too. It also means we have to deny our sinful nature daily and ensure we do not let the evil one get a foothold. And I find that the harder I struggle in my walk with Christ, the closer it brings me to people. I find people wanting to spend more time with me, enjoying my company, stopping to talk with me. They find someone approachable whose company gives them comfort which is exactly what it's like to walk with Christ daily. So I guess what I'm trying to say is be sure to reflect daily, hourly on what it means truly be like Christ. You will make yourselves happier but our heavenly Father even more-so.
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18:48
It helps also to loathe evil with every fibre of your being. My hatred for Satan and his minions is unquestionable because it was them leading me on which brought me so much pain and misery. Hate evil with all you can.
Мико⚜🐾 11/13/2025 09:23
https://youtu.be/-dJ-b130UgQ
Narrations of the Holy Fathers Orthodox Readings
Gregory Palamas Homily 5 On The Meeting of Our Lord
Мико⚜🐾 11/13/2025 09:37
https://youtu.be/9Dyat3psEQc
Narrations of the Holy Fathers Orthodox Readings
Gregory Palamas Homily 16 The Mystery of Holy Saturday #Easter #Pascha
serpente482 11/15/2025 14:27
Today mass lasted 4h, the bishop came to my church and we prayed the rosary and made a procession in the streets and got these things
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serpente482
Today mass lasted 4h, the bishop came to my church and we prayed the rosary and made a procession in the streets and got these things
Мико⚜🐾 11/15/2025 14:47
thats a nice rosary
Мико⚜🐾
thats a nice rosary
serpente482 11/15/2025 14:49
in the middle part it has a photo of Jesus and in the side i showed it says friend that never fails
serpente482
Today mass lasted 4h, the bishop came to my church and we prayed the rosary and made a procession in the streets and got these things
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/15/2025 20:32
I picked up this colourful rosary today.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/15/2025 20:55
My autism requires something colour coded so this was quite a fortunate find today
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/16/2025 09:55
I will be attending a new church today. Please consider me in your prayers, brothers.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I will be attending a new church today. Please consider me in your prayers, brothers.
serpente482 11/16/2025 10:28
why is that
serpente482
why is that
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/16/2025 10:28
Still searching for my church.
serpente482 11/16/2025 10:29
what are you searching for
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/16/2025 10:29
A church that doesn't appeal to the world.
10:29
I have found one that I like the sound of but haven't been able to make time for it until today.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
A church that doesn't appeal to the world.
serpente482 11/16/2025 11:33
appeal to the world how
serpente482
appeal to the world how
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/16/2025 13:03
You know what I mean bro
13:04
Rainbow flags, pro abortion, that kind of bollocks
ungen 11/16/2025 13:05
In other terms, a spineless and lukewarm sort
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/16/2025 13:05
So I am not 100% sure if I did holy communion as a kid or not.
13:06
Gonna see if my Mum might remember but she suffers from amnesia so we'll have to see
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/16/2025 16:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmN68hZ1gcU
𝔻𝕚𝕟𝕩 𝕥𝕙𝕖 ℙ𝕦𝕡𝕡𝕖𝕥
False Teacher w/o a Mirror
16:31
How is it that a puppet is so good at rebuking false teachers
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Rainbow flags, pro abortion, that kind of bollocks
serpente482 11/16/2025 16:58
that stuff doesnt happen in Catholic Churches
16:58
if it happens you can report it
serpente482
that stuff doesnt happen in Catholic Churches
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/16/2025 17:03
One of the catholic churches I considered going to has a female priest and a section on their website literally titled "Diversity, Equality and Inclusion" where they acknowledge same-sex marriage as well as... how ever the hell you describe THIS heresy. (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
One of the catholic churches I considered going to has a female priest and a section on their website literally titled "Diversity, Equality and Inclusion" where they acknowledge same-sex marriage as well as... how ever the hell you describe THIS heresy. (edited)
serpente482 11/16/2025 17:03
wtf
17:03
thats not possible
17:03
report it they arent catholic
serpente482
wtf
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/16/2025 17:04
That's why I was carefully scanning over all the catholic churches near me to know what their beliefs are
17:04
The church I will be joining has an entire section about how pro-life they are, which I think is a pretty good start.
serpente482 11/16/2025 17:04
wtf
17:05
you have to warn someone
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/16/2025 17:05
Serp you also have to understand that South Wales is a commie shithole. Like, it's really bad down here. It's no surprise a number of our churches have been co-opted
serpente482 11/16/2025 17:05
they are harming the church
serpente482
you have to warn someone
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/16/2025 17:05
I think I want to take it up with my priest after I make my profession.
serpente482 11/16/2025 17:06
share the web
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/16/2025 17:06
I attended that other church too when I first came to the faith and I felt nothing when I was there. Now we know.
serpente482 11/16/2025 17:07
my priest believes in salvation only through the catholic chruch i think
17:07
made it sound like that the other day
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/16/2025 17:07
It's always good to confirm
17:09
Serp
17:10
Are you aware of what Berlin was like prior to Hitler coming to power?
17:10
South Wales is like that, maybe worse.
17:11
Swansea, Cardiff, Newport and Bristol (Which is in England but still) are EXTREMELY pozzed
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/16/2025 17:19
But in other news,I was learning to pray the rosary after service today.
17:20
It's a lot to take in at first to be honest
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
But in other news,I was learning to pray the rosary after service today.
serpente482 11/16/2025 18:10
it took us 1h yesterday in Church
18:10
each mystery had 5 minutes of reflexing time
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/16/2025 18:12
I think you mean reflecting time but yes
serpente482 11/16/2025 18:12
yes
VikingTiger6 11/17/2025 14:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_soz6GomgU this video is funny
Born Again Barbarian
My Biggest Issue With Nick Fuentes
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/17/2025 17:37
I'm glad I'm Catholic again.
17:38
Since I became a Christian and got to witness Christ completely reshape my life, I've wanted nothing more than to be as close to Christ as possible. In my search to achieve that, He has directed me towards Catholicism and I just feel a lot more connected to Him now.
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Мико⚜🐾 11/17/2025 18:02
Q: ‘I am a beginner artist who mainly draws fantasy. Only recently have I become Orthodox & have begun to study this topic. I have only figured out what the literary boundaries for creativity are, but there was no answer to the question specifically about drawing. I want to know: is it possible to draw alternative variations of history (without forgetting about the Last Judgement), robots, and—I am afraid to ask—robots that may resemble or be indistinguishable from people? I do not place creativity above the Lord in my life, and I always remember the fear of death. Please, advise.’ A: (Archimandrite Euthycius) ‘Creativity, art in itself, is not sinful: it is a gift from God. It is important only to use this gift for good. Art should be a conductor of evangelical truths, concepts of good and evil, or the beauty and multifaceted nature of God's world. In no case should it serve as a temptation or a call to sin. Such art will be pleasing to God and worthy of a Christian. Robotics is also not a sinful occupation. They are merely machines. Although, there are many questions regarding the interaction of these machines with humans. Fantasy, as one of the types of literary activity, as an attempt to imagine the future awaiting us, is also not in itself a sinful occupation. It all depends on what the work calls for, what it teaches. Thus, if in your work you do not forget God, His holy commandments, then your works will not invoke sin, but will call people to become better, kinder.’
`Azbyka’s Questions & Answers: Is it permissible for an Orthodox person to draw fantasy?` -# https://azbyka.ru/vopros/mozhno-li-pravoslavnomu-cheloveku-risovat-fantastiku/
Можно ли Православному человеку рис...
Я начинающий художник. Рисую в основном фантастику. Недавно стал воцерковляться, и изучать эту тему. Выяснил лишь границы для творчества но литературного. Не
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/17/2025 18:03
Is this your fursona now, Mikko?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Is this your fursona now, Mikko?
Мико⚜🐾 11/17/2025 18:04
kinda, yeah
ungen 11/17/2025 19:59
Saint Marteen
khaybar 11/18/2025 05:20
Year of marteen
Мико⚜🐾 11/18/2025 05:40
Мико⚜🐾 11/18/2025 16:01
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Мико⚜🐾 11/18/2025 16:41
‘People understand happiness in different and often contradictory ways. But in the Orthodox understanding, everything is simple. God created man for a blessed life in union with Him. He is all-blessed and is the source of blessedness for all beings. Therefore, happiness is a blessed life in the unity of love with God. In the theological context, the word “happiness” and the phrase “blessedness in God” have the same meaning.’
`Fr. Vadim Leonov, Fundamentals of Orthodox Anthropology, Footnote 51`
Мико⚜🐾 11/18/2025 20:39
https://youtu.be/RAy0V1EykZs
St.Petersburg Chamber Choir - Topic
The Nativity Troparion, The Nativity and Divine Liturgy Chants, for...
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/19/2025 16:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64onhFuvQjo
Capturing Christianity
New Scientific Proof of Christianity!
Мико⚜🐾 11/19/2025 16:18
‘To satisfy God's Justice, strictly speaking, would mean to send sinners to eternal death, not allowing them any possibility of eternal life. After all, how can the sinful life of a person approach the life of the all-holy God? Such a huge disparity threatens the inevitability of the destruction of unworthy creation, like straw in a furnace. It gives no hope of salvation. And so, what does the God of miracles do? He takes His own hypostatic life, the life of His only begotten Son, and places It into a small lot of human nature, long prepared by mystical activity for this fate, protected by His own grace from the admixture of sin, and He united divinity and humanity into a single hypostatic union of God and Man. He then led this divine-human union, which includes all of human nature save for sin, even into suffering, weakness, and death itself. And what happened? The Justice of God is completely satisfied, because in the person of the God-Man, Mankind as a whole received a just death, and received it fully, for all times, because the moment of the death of the God-Man, by virtue of the presence of eternal divinity, is equated to eternity. It is on the satisfaction of God's Justice that the Redeemer has the power to forgive a repentant sinner without the dangerous hope of non-punishment for those who do not repent. At the same time, the life of God, having descended deep into human death, but not being contained by that death in His essence, from the depth of death shines forth for all mankind that has been brought to death through sin, and so He leads into eternal life all souls that open themselves up to that light through faith and do not repel it with unbelief and hard-heartedness. This is how God loved the world.’
`St. Philaret of Moscow, Sermons on the Mother of God, Sermon 9, The Mystery of Ungodliness`
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/20/2025 11:12
Looks like my priest is happy to go ahead with the confession. Since I did attend a Catholic Primary school he believes it's highly likely I did holy communion and just don't remember.
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11:12
And if my sis did holy communion then yeah, very high chance I did too.
11:12
Especially knowing what my Dad was like.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Looks like my priest is happy to go ahead with the confession. Since I did attend a Catholic Primary school he believes it's highly likely I did holy communion and just don't remember.
serpente482 11/20/2025 20:41
very weird you dont remember doe
20:41
but old people have bad memory i guess
20:41
dont they do a big party because of it there
20:41
?
20:42
mine was huge
serpente482
but old people have bad memory i guess
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/20/2025 20:42
serpente482
dont they do a big party because of it there
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/20/2025 20:42
I... don't know
serpente482 11/20/2025 20:43
only bad thing of that party is that it was the same day for everyone so the friends that went with me to Church couldnt come
20:43
and they also invited common friends
Мико⚜🐾 11/21/2025 11:36
‘Mercy and truth have met each other: justice and peace have kissed.’
`Psalm 85.10`
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/21/2025 23:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHsUIiY4ZHo
Father Spyridon
PEOPLE WE MUST REMOVE FROM OUR LIVES
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/23/2025 13:12
@serpente482 I'm leaving the Catholic church
13:12
The priest said "mass is over, go in peace" so I did
13:12
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
The priest said "mass is over, go in peace" so I did
serpente482 11/23/2025 13:26
Xd
13:26
Im starting confirmation next Friday
13:26
Met with the priests and people of my church including my cathequist
13:26
It was cool
13:27
They invited me to coffee
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/23/2025 13:27
All the best brother.
13:27
I'll be going to confession soon, after which confirmation.
serpente482 11/23/2025 13:27
It was supposed to start three weeks ago
13:27
But the priest couldnt contact me cuz i didnt give him my number
13:28
So he said it and the end of mass
13:28
"People interested in the confirmation for adults please stay after mass is finished"
13:28
There are a lot of teachers in my Church
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/23/2025 13:28
But in
serpente482 11/23/2025 13:28
Of course
13:29
My cathechist is a physics and maths teacher
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/23/2025 13:29
I'm thinking of helping out with my new church's homeless shelter thing
13:30
Ah, but I probably need to look for a new job first.
serpente482 11/23/2025 13:31
If my friend passes everything he told me he would read some chapters of the Bible and help in a shelter one day with me
13:31
I hope he does
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/23/2025 13:32
I had to leave work early again due to really bad swelling in my hand. I've asked to be moved to a different department but for the time being I need to take more time off work, which means less money.
13:33
So now I have to job hunt to be on the safe side and I need to revisit the doctor.
13:33
It's a pain, so prayers would be appreciated.
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13:33
Either for health or finding new suitable work
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/23/2025 13:43
@serpente482 I just finished reading my Church's news letter
13:43
They have a Children's Christmas Carol... in Spanish
13:43
Why Spanish, this is Britain
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Why Spanish, this is Britain
serpente482 11/23/2025 14:15
Cuz it sounds cooler
14:15
Which carol btw
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/23/2025 14:16
Not too sure
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Not too sure
serpente482 11/23/2025 14:17
I love christmas carols
Мико⚜🐾 11/26/2025 14:12
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/27/2025 20:38
My confession earlier today was surprisingly longer than expected since my priest wanted to better understand my journey in faith since I explained that I haven't been to confession in about 17ish years. After which he invited me to a study group of sorts which they do every Thursday and asked that I come to today's one.
20:39
Now the thing about me is I am not exactly a social butterfly. I half expected myself to sit quietly and not really have the confidence to talk to the group. But surprisingly it was the opposite. I ended up speaking the most. I guess because I really like theology so every point that was brought up just seemed interesting to me and I felt compelled to elaborate.
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20:40
This study group concludes in Easter with confirmation so it all works out.
serpente482 11/27/2025 21:34
Good to hear sky
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/27/2025 22:27
I realised today that I really, really love theology and apologetics.
serpente482 11/29/2025 00:42
First day of confirmation preparation
00:43
We talked for an hour and a half about sacramentals and sacraments even doe we only got to speak about baptism, confession and confirmation
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00:43
It was cool
00:44
First thing the guy asked me was to solve an integral he did on the board
00:44
It was 1/xlnx and i just remembered that 1/x was lnx
Мико⚜🐾 11/29/2025 21:30
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/29/2025 21:35
Reminds me I need to make a little shrine in my room for Christ.
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/30/2025 13:32
https://vxtwitter.com/skyfoil_exe/status/1995123320597966966
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>used to be a church >somehow made the church even uglier >this is considered beautiful by Islamic standards Who needs apologetics when Islam routinely shoots itself in the foot?
QRT: lilyjayofficial How beautiful is this mosque I found?!
13:38
Look at what they need to mimick a fraction of the beauty of a cathedral.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 11/30/2025 18:56
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↪️ Replying to @asciutoi
@asciutoi >removes all tapestries >removes the stain-glass windows >removes all the iconography >removes the hand crafted furniture >paints it mostly plain white >"barely changed anything"
18:56
Allah isn't bringing his best. Actually, he never brought his best to begin with.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/01/2025 11:36
@Christ's Strongest Warrior I'm working on a video where I rank Atheist arguments in a tier list while deboonking them. I want to compare notes with you guys because Proverbs 12:15
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/01/2025 11:36
Sorta compare notes and see if you guys want to expand on the points I've made.
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Also ngl, I'm struggling to formulate my thoughts on the Religious Pluralism argument.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/02/2025 09:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLz6bw9TxUU
Father Spyridon
WE MUST LEARN OUR ENEMY'S STRATEGIES
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/04/2025 00:08
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/04/2025 00:10
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 KJV
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/04/2025 00:11
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Something seems... off
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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NIV
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/04/2025 00:17
That's the nugget
VikingTiger6 12/04/2025 06:45
when it says "the efeminate" it means bottoms, when it says "abusers of themselves with mankind" it means tops
06:46
its a great to point out to anyone trying to reconcile homosexuality with Christianity that the writers of the bible were familiar with gay culture
06:48
because people make this assumption that "it was written in another time" or "they were ignorant of gay people" or "this only refers to adulterers" when its clear that the author of the bible (I believe its God) knew who and what he was talking about
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Мико⚜🐾 12/04/2025 09:55
Sexually immoral refers to what is condemned as such in the OT
09:55
The NIV translation itself is inaccurate
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/04/2025 16:00
https://vxtwitter.com/trad_west_/status/1994819679462822042
Trad West (@trad_west_)
Pope Leo XIV and Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I reaffirm desire for full communion
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16:00
Big things are happening. (edited)
VikingTiger6 12/04/2025 18:40
One side would have to go against their councils for it to happen
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Мико⚜🐾 12/04/2025 18:47
It won’t be us
18:49
Some concessions can definitely be made on things that have not been settled or dogmatised though. There are a lot of people who almost don’t want a true union & Catholics to be united to the Orthodox Church on the Orthodox side, I am of the opinion that it should be made as easy as possible for them without going against dogma (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
It won’t be us
serpente482 12/04/2025 18:55
you have to accept the Pope
18:56
there is no other way
Мико⚜🐾 12/04/2025 18:56
We can accept the Pope in that he will become the rightful head of the Church
18:58
He had unique priveliges in the 1st millennium, and to deny this would be a little silly in my honest opinion But at the same time, particular things we would take issue w/ (edited)
19:00
For instance, infallibility, the conditions in which the Pope can decree things infallibly, and possibly a list of times in which this has happened within Church history ought be provided. I don’t even think it is going to be incorrect that the Pope can declare something that is true about the faith, but when this has been so and whether the Holy Spirit can also do the same through Church leaders is a question that has to be asked (edited)
VikingTiger6 12/04/2025 19:01
Theres been too many bad popes for infallibility to be true
VikingTiger6
Theres been too many bad popes for infallibility to be true
serpente482 12/04/2025 19:01
theres been to many bad apostles for them to be infallible?
19:02
1 in 12 apostles were bad
19:02
1 in 13 *
VikingTiger6
Theres been too many bad popes for infallibility to be true
Мико⚜🐾 12/04/2025 19:02
This is mistaking what infallibity is according to V1 According to V1, the Pope has the ability to, through inspiration of the Holy Spirit, declare something necessarily true about the Catholic faith. (edited)
19:02
Not that he is always right in everything he does. (edited)
serpente482 12/04/2025 19:03
something being true doesnt depends on who says it
19:03
the Pope being infallible is not when the Pope speaks is when God speaks through him
19:03
like the Bible
Мико⚜🐾
Not that he is always right in everything he does. (edited)
VikingTiger6 12/04/2025 19:03
Yea but where do you draw the line?
serpente482
the Pope being infallible is not when the Pope speaks is when God speaks through him
VikingTiger6 12/04/2025 19:04
You could say that about anyone
Мико⚜🐾
Not that he is always right in everything he does. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 12/04/2025 19:04
The issue that should be taken here by non-Catholics is moreso how we can know the Pope does this consistently, what criteria must be met
VikingTiger6
Yea but where do you draw the line?
Мико⚜🐾 12/04/2025 19:04
Bingo
VikingTiger6
Yea but where do you draw the line?
serpente482 12/04/2025 19:04
when he speaks for the whole Church, in matters of faith
Мико⚜🐾
The issue that should be taken here by non-Catholics is moreso how we can know the Pope does this consistently, what criteria must be met
serpente482 12/04/2025 19:04
that was defined centuries ago
19:05
and was used like thrice or so since then
serpente482
that was defined centuries ago
Мико⚜🐾 12/04/2025 19:05
What is the criteria then?
serpente482 12/04/2025 19:05
excathedra
serpente482
when he speaks for the whole Church, in matters of faith
VikingTiger6 12/04/2025 19:05
But he's always speaking for the whole church, he's the head of the roman church
Мико⚜🐾 12/04/2025 19:05
Yeah, but the term ex cathedra itself is an empty term is the point
19:05
The Pope always speaks for the whole Church, because he is the autocrat of said Church
VikingTiger6
But he's always speaking for the whole church, he's the head of the roman church
serpente482 12/04/2025 19:05
but he is not always creating a Dogma
Мико⚜🐾 12/04/2025 19:06
However, only certain things of what he says are dogma
serpente482
but he is not always creating a Dogma
VikingTiger6 12/04/2025 19:06
Then he's fallible
Мико⚜🐾 12/04/2025 19:06
Is what he says dogma when he says “This is dogmatic”?
VikingTiger6
Then he's fallible
serpente482 12/04/2025 19:06
if a car is not moving all the time it means its broken because its not moving
19:06
or algo asomthing
Мико⚜🐾
Is what he says dogma when he says “This is dogmatic”?
serpente482 12/04/2025 19:06
yeah
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VikingTiger6 12/04/2025 19:07
No it means the car isint always moving
VikingTiger6
No it means the car isint always moving
serpente482 12/04/2025 19:07
same as the Pope is not always infallible
VikingTiger6 12/04/2025 19:08
Glad we're in agreement
serpente482 12/04/2025 19:08
yeah
19:09
people who arent Catholic are usually because they dont know whats a Catholic
19:10
Last time papal infallibility was used was in 1950 by Pius IX to declare the assumption of Mary into Heaven
Мико⚜🐾 12/04/2025 19:11
And atp the Church universal had already been celebrating said assumption for over 1300 years (edited)
serpente482 12/04/2025 19:11
yes
19:11
but it was declared a Dogma
VikingTiger6 12/04/2025 19:11
Anyone who belongs to the universal church of all believers is catholic, be they protestant, roman or eastern orthodox
VikingTiger6
Anyone who belongs to the universal church of all believers is catholic, be they protestant, roman or eastern orthodox
serpente482 12/04/2025 19:12
im not roman, im from Spain
19:12
im catholic
19:12
not roman
19:12
are oriental catholics not catholics because they arent from the roman rite?
19:12
dont use that argument
19:14
if all denominations are valid liberal churches and Mega Churches are equally as valid as every interpretation
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Мико⚜🐾 12/04/2025 19:15
On the other hand, Paul says that there is 1 faith & 1 baptism
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And that those who hold to heresies and schism will not inherit the Kingdom
19:15
not everyone can be right even if there is a common ground (edited)
serpente482 12/04/2025 19:16
people from all denominations can be saved
19:16
even from other religions if they havent had the choice or knowledge of the Gospel
19:16
probably
19:17
unless they conciously reject the gift of God
Мико⚜🐾 12/04/2025 19:19
They can, in that God is not necessarily bound to consign them to Hell
19:20
But such a thing should not be presumed so quickly, since if it could be, then it would be less risky to preach the Gospel to the ignorant (edited)
19:20
Since most reject it
Мико⚜🐾
But such a thing should not be presumed so quickly, since if it could be, then it would be less risky to preach the Gospel to the ignorant (edited)
serpente482 12/04/2025 19:29
what
19:29
it mentions it in the Bible something simila
19:29
r
19:30
Matthew 11:22-24 i think
BibleBot BOT 12/04/2025 19:30
Xbox360hoodmoments 12/06/2025 19:38
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Мико⚜🐾 12/07/2025 21:25
https://youtu.be/ZZf7FghAL2s
Skyfoil
Can Furries be Christians?
serpente482 12/08/2025 12:02
Church maxxed this weekend
12:03
Went to mass 3 days in a row
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/08/2025 12:04
I wasn't very well rested on Saturday night so I missed Sunday service but I'm planning to go to mass tomorrow and friday.
serpente482 12/08/2025 12:10
Go today
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/08/2025 12:10
Can't, Monday mass has already ended
serpente482 12/08/2025 12:11
Today is the Immaculate Conception of Mary
12:11
Look for more services today there are probably more
12:11
Its national holyday in my country
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/10/2025 23:17
https://vxtwitter.com/Protestia/status/1998379355198874072
Protestia (@Protestia)
10 years ago, as the Rev. Libby Lane was being ordained as the first woman bishop in the Church of England, Rev. Paul Williamson was a lone voice who spoke out in protest, calling out "No, not in the Bible" to the gathered throng.
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23:17
W so big I have to share it here
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://vxtwitter.com/Protestia/status/1998379355198874072
VikingTiger6 12/11/2025 23:41
Finally a real protestant
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Мико⚜🐾 12/12/2025 08:31
https://youtu.be/2GlkGT7daoc
Orthodox Loner
St. Athanasius of Alexandria: Refutation of the Jews
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/12/2025 13:34
https://vxtwitter.com/Protestia/status/1999080270335766667
Protestia (@Protestia)
Mormon Missionaries in Guatemala help out some Roman Catholics by carrying the 'Virgin of the Immaculate Conception' on their shoulders.
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13:35
Uhh... Cathbros I'm confused.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Uhh... Cathbros I'm confused.
serpente482 12/12/2025 16:14
Processions are for everyone
16:15
There are processions that are purely for people of the Church and processions that are for local holydays
16:15
Immaculate Conception is a holyday in lots of Catholic mayority countries and some do special things for them
16:16
In my village in summer we do a procession in honor of Saint Christopher and everyone can pick things up
1
16:17
Not everyone who picks stuff is a believer
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
https://vxtwitter.com/Protestia/status/1999080270335766667
Incel Furvert Chud 12/13/2025 10:26
it must now be washed
serpente482 12/14/2025 12:03
I love my cathechist
12:04
Apparently one of my priests was a philosophy teacher in college
12:04
I told him now they hire people who dont hold catholicism in high esteem
12:05
And he blamed it on german teachings and gender stuff
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12:06
My priest is coming next Saturday to our cathechism session
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Мико⚜🐾 12/14/2025 18:18
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Footnotes:
⁽¹⁾ Irenaeus, Against Heresies III.25; Tertullian, Against Marcion I.6; Epiphanius, Panarion XLII) ⁽²⁾ Clement, Strom. VI.14; Chrysostom, cmt. on Psalm 134:4; Hilary, cmt. on Psalm 144:14; Augustine, de genes. ad litt. I.11. ⁽³⁾ Irenaeus, Against Heresies III.25; Chrysostom, cmt. on Psalm 134:4; Hilary, cmt. on Psalm 144:14; Augustine, de genes. ad litt. I.11 ⁽⁴⁾ Augustine, cmt. on Psalm 147:13 ⁽⁵⁾ Tertullian, Against Marcion II.13; Chrysostom, cmt. on Psalm 4:7, 6:1 & 107:1; Ambrose, On Flight From the World III.14, cmt. on Psalm 37:17 & 37:26; Augustine, cmt. on Psalm 55:13 ⁽⁶⁾ Tertullian, de resurr. carnis 14; Augustine, Epist. 138 ⁽⁷⁾ Chrysostom, in Matth., homil. XIII.6. ⁽⁸⁾ Chrysostom, Opp. Vol. 1, pg. 744 & 786, ed. de Monfaucon. ⁽⁹⁾ Chrysostom, Opp. Vol. 1, pg. 749 & 789; 2, p. 257 & 258; X, p. 429; Augustine, Epist. 210 ⁽¹⁰⁾ Chrysostom, Letter 17 to Olympias; in Epist. 1 ad Corinth, homil. I.3; Augustine, in Psalm. 57:20
`Metropolitan Macarius Bulgakov, ODT, Vol. 1, Footnotes 361-370` (edited)
BibleBot BOT 12/14/2025 18:19
serpente482
And he blamed it on german teachings and gender stuff
Мико⚜🐾 12/14/2025 18:19
he sounds quite based & in the know
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/14/2025 20:42
I decided, after some time, to make an oath of celibacy.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I decided, after some time, to make an oath of celibacy.
Мико⚜🐾 12/14/2025 20:44
ohh yes, i forgot to get back to you on that
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/15/2025 00:36
@serpente482
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serpente482 12/15/2025 00:46
Lot of people know the latin chants
00:47
They are cool and make the mass better
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/15/2025 00:48
This is me btw
00:48
I'm the one belting out the hymns
00:48
I'm always on fire for Jesus. The Holy Spirit is like a bonfire within me.
Мико⚜🐾 12/17/2025 06:26
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06:26
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/17/2025 13:44
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serpente482 12/17/2025 18:36
Its shocking how widespread the "erm its aksually pagan" argument is widespread when theres barly any proof to actually defend that
18:37
That pagan day might aswell have been in retalation of christians to take away their holyday because it was established centuries before Christ died
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/17/2025 19:04
It is literally in the name too
19:04
CHRISTmas
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19:08
Funny how people will go "Errrm ackshually Christmas is Pagan" then in the next breath say "Errrm ackshually it's HAPPY HOLIDAYS not Merry Christmas."
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19:08
Okay so what one is it little bro? Is it pagan or Christian? Pick one.
GR 12/17/2025 19:25
it's mostly from neopagans and other ragebaiters conflating it with saturnalia
GR
it's mostly from neopagans and other ragebaiters conflating it with saturnalia
serpente482 12/17/2025 19:55
Actually the one being the 25th was the day of sun invictus
19:56
Saturnalia wasnt the 25th so anyone who says that can also be proven wrong
serpente482
Saturnalia wasnt the 25th so anyone who says that can also be proven wrong
GR 12/17/2025 19:56
I have no knowledge of the specifics I've just seen them celebrate saturnalia on the 25th
GR
I have no knowledge of the specifics I've just seen them celebrate saturnalia on the 25th
serpente482 12/17/2025 19:56
Because they are retards
GR 12/17/2025 19:56
they like to jew their way into our holidays
serpente482 12/17/2025 19:57
Wait i googled it and saturnalia was in november
GR 12/17/2025 19:58
I saw it said 17th through the 23rd of December (edited)
serpente482 12/17/2025 19:58
Still no 25
19:58
But guess what
19:59
Hannukah is celebratee from the 14 to the 22 of december
GR 12/17/2025 20:00
how interesting
serpente482 12/17/2025 20:00
And both of them have heavy meaning with lights
GR 12/17/2025 20:01
judaism for wignats confirmed
serpente482 12/17/2025 20:01
And both appear in similar times
20:03
Maybe to anyone saying christmas is actually saturnalia we have to say that they are confusing christmas with hannukah
20:04
Remember to remind jews they are pagans this week
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serpente482
Remember to remind jews they are pagans this week
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/17/2025 20:19
Okay you cooked with this one ngl.
20:19
Every once in a while, Serp will post a gem
20:19
It's rare but it happens
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/17/2025 20:42
Sola fide--
20:42
Uhhhh sola scriptor--
20:43
Darn
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
Every once in a while, Serp will post a gem
serpente482 12/17/2025 20:44
All i post are gems
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20:45
And truths
20:45
Im the only man with eyes in a world of blind
serpente482
Im the only man with eyes in a world of blind
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/17/2025 20:45
Pride was Satan's downfall brother
20:46
Exalt yourself before the Lord.
serpente482 12/17/2025 20:46
It was not meant to be literal
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/17/2025 20:52
You remember what my last video was about?
20:52
Literally on my snuffin' home page.
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20:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Csonr6H3Ao
Skyfoil
Manipulative Christian Content
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/18/2025 01:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCGuEAI_3FI
In Gods Name
Watch this if You are feeling Distant from Jesus - Bishop Mar Mari
01:18
God bless Mar Mari. I love this Bishop.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/18/2025 15:03
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Meathook Marty 12/18/2025 15:10
me when i am tempted by my Gun addiction
VikingTiger6 12/20/2025 02:08
Somone posted this in the Baptist cord
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VikingTiger6
Somone posted this in the Baptist cord
serpente482 12/20/2025 07:54
It was one of the moments that made me realize how truly we are Christ's True Church
VikingTiger6
Somone posted this in the Baptist cord
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/20/2025 13:16
My new church is unbelievably stunning. It rivals Orthodox churches in its presentation. When I first saw it I was like "I could never go back to that bland protestant church again"
13:17
Right, I said I would take pictures. I forgot.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/20/2025 13:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj53j3k9k_g
Patristic Nectar
Don’t Torment Your Guardian Angel
Мико⚜🐾 12/20/2025 17:22
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGhdd2FStKZJI3KiRDtHAUZQniHQFC9YN
The Longer Catechism of The Orthodox, Catholic, Eastern Church
The Catechism of St. Philaret (Drozdov) of Moscow, presented as a question and answer, in multiple parts.
Мико⚜🐾
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGhdd2FStKZJI3KiRDtHAUZQniHQFC9YN
Мико⚜🐾 12/20/2025 17:23
@khaybar
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:44
"Children are a heritage from the Lord, offspring a reward from him." - Psalm 127:3 "Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in one’s youth." - Psalm 127:4 "Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They will not be put to shame when they contend with their opponents in court." - Psalm 127:5
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Мико⚜🐾
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGhdd2FStKZJI3KiRDtHAUZQniHQFC9YN
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:45
Oh sweet thank you
Eurocyon
"Children are a heritage from the Lord, offspring a reward from him." - Psalm 127:3 "Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in one’s youth." - Psalm 127:4 "Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They will not be put to shame when they contend with their opponents in court." - Psalm 127:5
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:46
God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.” - Genesis 1:28 (edited)
khaybar
Oh sweet thank you
Мико⚜🐾 12/20/2025 17:46
forgot that there was a recording of his catechism available online
Мико⚜🐾
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGhdd2FStKZJI3KiRDtHAUZQniHQFC9YN
Мико⚜🐾 12/20/2025 17:46
@Eurocyon you should listen to this at some point, its a good summary of teaching
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:46
Teaching of what?
Мико⚜🐾 12/20/2025 17:47
good to have at hand to better understand and criticise our view
Мико⚜🐾
forgot that there was a recording of his catechism available online
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:47
Much appreciated anyhow, I’ve just been trying to get through the basic theology of Christianity + tidbits into ecclesiology
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:47
i see
Eurocyon
Teaching of what?
Мико⚜🐾 12/20/2025 17:47
Christian teaching
khaybar
Much appreciated anyhow, I’ve just been trying to get through the basic theology of Christianity + tidbits into ecclesiology
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:47
recent convert?
Мико⚜🐾 12/20/2025 17:47
It explains the Nicene creed, the Lord's prayer, the 10 commandments What God is for us, His attributes, essence etc.
Eurocyon
recent convert?
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:47
Yes
17:48
Muslim inquirer/agnostic -> Eastern Orthodoxy
17:48
I was gonna be RCC but I don’t believe in a pope
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:48
Muslim inquirer?
Arcane BOT 12/20/2025 17:48
@Eurocyon has reached level 2. GG!
Eurocyon
Muslim inquirer?
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:48
Yeah as in I was gonna take shahada eventually
khaybar
I was gonna be RCC but I don’t believe in a pope
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:49
Thats not a problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedevacantism
Sedevacantism
Sedevacantism is a traditionalist Catholic movement which holds that since the 1958 death of Pius XII the occupiers of the Holy See are not valid popes due to their espousal of one or more heresies and that, for lack of a valid pope, the See of Rome is vacant. Sedevacantism owes its origins to the rejection of the theological and disciplinary ch...
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:49
I know what sedevecantism is, that was just one of my issues
khaybar
Yeah as in I was gonna take shahada eventually
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:49
I have yet to actually technically do that, as there are no mosques in my area. I plan on doing it either before or after my military service
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:50
Traditions of EO “appeal” to me anymore anyway, not sure how to word that
Eurocyon
I have yet to actually technically do that, as there are no mosques in my area. I plan on doing it either before or after my military service
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:50
Ah
khaybar
Muslim inquirer/agnostic -> Eastern Orthodoxy
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:50
For me it was Deism -> Muslim inquirer/Catholic inquirer -> Islam (edited)
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:50
Yeah I have a couple mosques around me and I was in the process of somewhat learning Arabic and going through the Quran and hadiths
Eurocyon
For me it was Deism -> Muslim inquirer/Catholic inquirer -> Islam (edited)
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:51
I see
khaybar
Yeah I have a couple mosques around me and I was in the process of somewhat learning Arabic and going through the Quran and hadiths
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:51
Even if you won't become a muslim please do that.
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:51
Yeah actually I had a very short stint in Protestantism before I Muslim inquired, but I didn’t like the liberalism
17:51
*in low church
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:51
Protestantism was the greatest mistake in history
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:51
Eurocyon
Even if you won't become a muslim please do that.
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:52
Yeah, still am learning the Quran and Hadiths (edited)
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Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:52
Like I do not personally hate christians, I commonly suck up to catholocism like a choir boy. But I am not a fan of Protestantism (edited)
khaybar
Yeah, still am learning the Quran and Hadiths (edited)
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:52
I read the bible sometimes
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:53
it’s good to go through other religious texts even if you don’t believe in em, honestly I kinda just like how Arabic sounds
17:53
But regardless of that I want to defend my faith
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:53
when I finished learning Spanish, I will tackle arabic
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:54
Arabic is pretty difficult for anyone who learned a Germanic or Romance language first
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:54
You speak a romance language?
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:54
I only really know contexts where “Allah” is used right now cuz it’s one of the only words I can recognize easily
Eurocyon
You speak a romance language?
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:54
French
17:54
A little bit
17:54
But I’m native English
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:54
Oh mon dieu
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:55
I grew up speaking Vietnamese though
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:55
J'adore le francais
khaybar
I grew up speaking Vietnamese though
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:55
You remind me of two friends of mine
17:55
Padme and Tay, you wouldn't know either of them
17:56
One was an Argentinian girl who was interested in Islam, the other was a Vietnamese boy who is an Orthodox Christian who wwas interested in Islam
Eurocyon
J'adore le francais
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:56
I like French stuff, mostly just the foods though. Otherwise I’m learning liturgical Greek and a small tidbit of Romanian and Church Slavonic
Eurocyon
One was an Argentinian girl who was interested in Islam, the other was a Vietnamese boy who is an Orthodox Christian who wwas interested in Islam
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:56
lol interesting
khaybar
I like French stuff, mostly just the foods though. Otherwise I’m learning liturgical Greek and a small tidbit of Romanian and Church Slavonic
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:57
I don't see a reason to learn greek outside maybe early church history
Eurocyon
I don't see a reason to learn greek outside maybe early church history
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:57
Septuagint and my church does Divine Liturgy in koine Greek
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:58
ah I see
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:58
I like the language anyway, doesn’t hurt to learn it
17:58
I also want to be fluent in Arabic maybe but that’s a whole different can of worms
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:58
Theologia es mí passión
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:58
At least Greek is somewhat simplistic to learn if you know English after you get the alphabet and use cases down
Eurocyon
Theologia es mí passión
khaybar 12/20/2025 17:59
Mmm nice
17:59
I do want a nice collection of religious texts and theology books eventually
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 17:59
It's a nice hobby
17:59
I am getting books on philosophy too
khaybar 12/20/2025 18:00
I wanna go through Ibn kathir and taymiyya especially, but sahih al bukhari and Muslim are good too just to start off
Eurocyon
I am getting books on philosophy too
khaybar 12/20/2025 18:00
Oh nice
18:00
I don’t know much about philosophy but I think it’s interesting
khaybar
I wanna go through Ibn kathir and taymiyya especially, but sahih al bukhari and Muslim are good too just to start off
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 18:02
Ibn Taymiyya had a very literalist viee on Islam, it only was accepted in the modern day. Al Ghazali and Ibn Sina have a more traditional view. Ibn Rushd dealt more with his own view on Islam I just like hin.
khaybar
I don’t know much about philosophy but I think it’s interesting
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 18:02
I love philosophy
18:02
When I get done doing something I am gonna read these two
18:03
so like a few weeks from now or so
Eurocyon
Ibn Taymiyya had a very literalist viee on Islam, it only was accepted in the modern day. Al Ghazali and Ibn Sina have a more traditional view. Ibn Rushd dealt more with his own view on Islam I just like hin.
khaybar 12/20/2025 18:03
I see
Eurocyon
I love philosophy
khaybar 12/20/2025 18:04
I’ve seen the Aristotle politics one floating around
18:04
Might pick it up
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 18:04
I love political Philosophy
18:04
over most other forms
khaybar 12/20/2025 18:04
It’s more interesting than personal operating philosophy yeah
18:05
The only thing I don’t like about talking about philosophy with others is just the incessant need to say “oh my philosophy is more moral and correct”
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 18:05
I hate platituding usually
18:06
Nietsche was the first philosopher I was into, then I got into Shcropenhaur, Yockey, Sorenstein, and a few others
khaybar 12/20/2025 18:13
Nietsche intrigued me for a bit but in the end I didn’t like it
18:13
I don’t remember why I just don’t
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 18:20
His whole points on religion are interesting but he misunderstands fundementals
khaybar
I was gonna be RCC but I don’t believe in a pope
serpente482 12/20/2025 19:13
Why not
Eurocyon
His whole points on religion are interesting but he misunderstands fundementals
khaybar 12/20/2025 20:08
That was probably why
serpente482
Why not
khaybar 12/20/2025 20:10
Addition of Filioque and papal supremacy
20:10
He’s still a good of a church leader as any, just not the top dog cuz they’re all equal
20:13
Also, doctrine of purgatory
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 20:33
https://youtube.com/shorts/BHCCCSV9PeA?si=oKxOGug8HCBXtxwf
Let's Talk Religion
Taqiyya Explained
20:33
https://youtu.be/i8hmBchN_1A?si=ySRZj6JQf7fCbC7x
Let's Talk Religion
What is Taqqiyya?
20:33
This is a good channel for Christianity and Islam, but he doesn't have alot on judiams
Eurocyon
This is a good channel for Christianity and Islam, but he doesn't have alot on judiams
Eluna 12/20/2025 20:35
Well good thing that I’m Jewish
Eluna
Well good thing that I’m Jewish
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 20:35
True
20:35
Also hello bestie
Eluna 12/20/2025 20:35
Hiii
Eurocyon
This is a good channel for Christianity and Islam, but he doesn't have alot on judiams
khaybar 12/20/2025 20:37
good channel
20:37
not a lot of religion channels that make content above what is essentially a lecture about judaism
khaybar
not a lot of religion channels that make content above what is essentially a lecture about judaism
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 20:38
Esoterica has a few videos on Judaism
khaybar 12/20/2025 20:38
it's just weird though, because modern jews and even jews back then all had very different views about the coming of the messiah and what books theyd believe in etc
Eurocyon
Esoterica has a few videos on Judaism
khaybar 12/20/2025 20:38
can you link them if you dont mind
khaybar
can you link them if you dont mind
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 20:38
https://youtube.com/@theesotericachannel?si=LcPzGDTOT1rJsXWe
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I'm Dr. Justin Sledge and welcome to Esoterica: Where we explore the arcane in history, philosophy, and religion. This channel produces content relating to topics such as alchemy, magic, Kabbalah, mysticism, hermetic philosophy, theosophy, the occult and more using the best academic scholarship currently available. Support Esoterica with Patr...
khaybar
He’s still a good of a church leader as any, just not the top dog cuz they’re all equal
serpente482 12/20/2025 20:46
No they aint, not before and defiently not now
20:47
Seat of Peter will and has always been the one leading the Church
khaybar
Also, doctrine of purgatory
serpente482 12/20/2025 20:47
Purgatory is biblical and makes sense
20:48
You wouldnt pray for the dead if they didnt need it
20:48
And since if the go to Hell there is no escape
20:48
There must be something they need prayers for
20:48
Purgatory
khaybar 12/20/2025 20:50
i will take into account but i dont have the capacity to debate these things in depth
GR 12/20/2025 20:53
how could the idea of purgatory not negate Christ's sacrifice?
20:53
we are cleansed by His blood, are we not?
Мико⚜🐾 12/20/2025 20:59
Truke?
‘Complete satisfaction to Divine Justice, the same superabundant satisfaction, was Presented once and for all, for all sinners, through Jesus Christ Our Saviour, Who took upon Himself the sins of the world and all punishment for sin; and, to obtain complete forgiveness of God and freedom from all punishment of sin, sinners have to appropriate the merits of the Redeemer, that is to say, believe in Him, truly repent of their sins, bring forth fruits worthy of repentance, i.e., good deeds.’
`Metropoltian Macarius Bulgakov`
21:02
If God’s justice was perfectly satisfied at the Cross, why is further satisfaction necessary through the temporal punishment of Man in Purgatory?
serpente482
You wouldnt pray for the dead if they didnt need it
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 21:04
You could be praying for mercy upon them
Мико⚜🐾
If God’s justice was perfectly satisfied at the Cross, why is further satisfaction necessary through the temporal punishment of Man in Purgatory?
khaybar 12/20/2025 21:04
this was also my justification for not believing in purgatory
21:05
i just dont wanna say anything thats completely wrong, i know im dearly uneducated
serpente482
No they aint, not before and defiently not now
Eurocyon 12/20/2025 21:18
Purgatory, in other words, is made necessary in the Thomistic system by the sacramental understanding of penance. In the sacrament of penance, the minister acts for Christ as judge of the sinner who is contrite for sins he has committed after baptism and imposes upon the penitent an obligation or “satisfaction.” “By this a man is entirely freed from the guilt of punishment when he pays the penalty which he owed.”12 As further justification for the doctrine of purgatory, Aquinas cites the church’s custom of praying for the dead,13 but one has the impression that this argument is traditional and not so important to his position as it had been to the Latin Fathers.
21:18
Thomas Aquinas seemed to be for Purgoturio, so I am gonna say it's canon until further research
GR
how could the idea of purgatory not negate Christ's sacrifice?
serpente482 12/20/2025 21:26
Because you can die with sins, not forgiven because they werent repented, so purgatory is an state in which you do penance before entering Heaven because nothing imperfect can enter Heaven
Eurocyon
Purgatory, in other words, is made necessary in the Thomistic system by the sacramental understanding of penance. In the sacrament of penance, the minister acts for Christ as judge of the sinner who is contrite for sins he has committed after baptism and imposes upon the penitent an obligation or “satisfaction.” “By this a man is entirely freed from the guilt of punishment when he pays the penalty which he owed.”12 As further justification for the doctrine of purgatory, Aquinas cites the church’s custom of praying for the dead,13 but one has the impression that this argument is traditional and not so important to his position as it had been to the Latin Fathers.
serpente482 12/20/2025 21:27
Yeah
21:27
To be against purgatory is to be against penance
21:27
To be against penance is to be against true repentance
21:28
Without Christ sacrifice there is no purgatory
21:29
You can get cleansed here or if you cant here in purgatory
21:30
1 Corinthians 3:12-15
BibleBot BOT 12/20/2025 21:30
serpente482 12/20/2025 21:32
I dont see any other explanation to that fire after the Day but you still remain saved
21:33
That which was not meant to enter Heaven will burn
21:33
And you will suffer loss
Мико⚜🐾
If God’s justice was perfectly satisfied at the Cross, why is further satisfaction necessary through the temporal punishment of Man in Purgatory?
serpente482 12/20/2025 21:38
If God's justice was perfectly satisfied at the Cross why is further satisfaction necessary through punishment here? Why do you suffer sin even if it's forgiven?
21:38
Why do you need to confess your sins
Мико⚜🐾
If God’s justice was perfectly satisfied at the Cross, why is further satisfaction necessary through the temporal punishment of Man in Purgatory?
Мико⚜🐾 12/21/2025 03:29
And yes, we do believe in a sort of purgation ourselves, but it’s not the indefinite (but temporary) punishment itself in Hades that satisfies God’s justice & pays the debt for sin. Because the debt for sin has already been paid, and in full.
03:32
The reason why people go for us is because they failed to fully appropriate the merits earnt for them by Christ due to: i) weakness of faith in Him; or ii) because they reposed without the fruits of repentance, possessing only repentance’s beginnings. It is not the punishment they suffer which saves them from that state, but the prayers of the faithful & the offering up of the Eucharistic sacrifice, without which they would remain in. (edited)
serpente482
If God's justice was perfectly satisfied at the Cross why is further satisfaction necessary through punishment here? Why do you suffer sin even if it's forgiven?
Мико⚜🐾 12/21/2025 03:36
To be really simplistic, the righteous suffer for sin because God wants to, through suffering, lead them to salvation. Not for a satiation of his Justice, because the Lamb was already slain before the foundation of the world for the sin we could never suffer enough for. If we could suffer enough for Original Sin & personal sin, then Christ’s Passion was unnecessary. The wicked suffer because they either willingly reject this gift, are unaware of it, or deny its existence. (edited)
03:37
And we confess sin not for God’s sake, but for our own sake
Eurocyon
Purgatory, in other words, is made necessary in the Thomistic system by the sacramental understanding of penance. In the sacrament of penance, the minister acts for Christ as judge of the sinner who is contrite for sins he has committed after baptism and imposes upon the penitent an obligation or “satisfaction.” “By this a man is entirely freed from the guilt of punishment when he pays the penalty which he owed.”12 As further justification for the doctrine of purgatory, Aquinas cites the church’s custom of praying for the dead,13 but one has the impression that this argument is traditional and not so important to his position as it had been to the Latin Fathers.
Мико⚜🐾 12/21/2025 03:54
Yeah, we would disagree, for us the guilt of the sin is fully remitted in confession & absolution, but we are inflicted with sin’s consequences for the purpose of our salvation & increase in our life in Christ (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 12/21/2025 04:03
Punishment for sin is repurposed in the case of the regenerate
Мико⚜🐾
The reason why people go for us is because they failed to fully appropriate the merits earnt for them by Christ due to: i) weakness of faith in Him; or ii) because they reposed without the fruits of repentance, possessing only repentance’s beginnings. It is not the punishment they suffer which saves them from that state, but the prayers of the faithful & the offering up of the Eucharistic sacrifice, without which they would remain in. (edited)
serpente482 12/21/2025 10:47
That makes less sense, our purgatory prayers can help you and make it easier but to fully depend on other people to escape from it is so weird. Your purgatory is just our purgatory but less developed and with weird rules i dont see why you even brought it up. You suffer penance in purgatory so you can heal from sin, in your you suffer just because you do? Sounds like a waiting room with uncomfortable chairs and the only way you can escape is if the other patients hurry up and the doctors call you
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/21/2025 14:49
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14:49
Thou shall not test the Lord thy God.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
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khaybar 12/21/2025 17:49
Oof, man. Sucks, but he asked for it :/
17:49
Glory be to God and God alone ️
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Xbox360hoodmoments 12/21/2025 22:59
People forget the that Old Testament and New testament God is the same person (edited)
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serpente482
That makes less sense, our purgatory prayers can help you and make it easier but to fully depend on other people to escape from it is so weird. Your purgatory is just our purgatory but less developed and with weird rules i dont see why you even brought it up. You suffer penance in purgatory so you can heal from sin, in your you suffer just because you do? Sounds like a waiting room with uncomfortable chairs and the only way you can escape is if the other patients hurry up and the doctors call you
Мико⚜🐾 12/22/2025 00:48
Our Purgatory is similar, sure. We were united for over a thousand years. We would both affirm that some men suffer in Hades because they die in a state of repentance & not in full emnity with God, but have failed to bear the fruits of said repentance here in this life, and/or on account of their failure to acquire & benefit enough from the merits Christ earnt on the Cross for Him. We would also both say that people in this state are both inevitably saved. The chief disagreement is not going to be in regard to the notion that purgative suffering assists Man’s purification from sin, since this is the intended function of the punishment for sin in this life (personal & Original) at least concerning the righteous, even if it merely by itself cannot purify Man for us: it is specifically going to be concerning this certain notion that said suffering in some way or another satisfies the Justice of God. No suffering or punishment of sin in us could pay the infinite debt before the infinite God for Original Sin & personal sin, meaning our fate was eternal punishment of this sin: which is amongst one of the several reasons why Christ, before the foundation of the world, was voluntarily slain for them so we did not have to be. This is something we both affirm wholeheartedly, contrary to the claims of some. However, because this is so, satisfaction of Justice from our punishment is no longer necessary, because the debt for sin we all had before God was paid in full. Man can now avoid punishment of sin in himself & have eternal life if he: i)Has a living faith in Christ, His sacrifice, & second-coming, which ii) culminates & is fulfilled in union with His Church, & iii) a life of struggle, repentance & Christian virtue (if it is His will, which it is for most.) If He fails to take up this opporturnity freely offered to Him out of Christ’s mercy, He does not benefit from it and after the general resurrection is Hell-bound. If a Man is saved, yet undergoes purgation nevertheless, this is because (as I said above) he failed to fully acquire the merits of Christ in his life. But, this cannot be to satisfy God’s Justice, because it already was perfectly satisfied by Christ. This is for the benefit of Man, so that he may be fully purified of sin & ready to enter the Kingdom. To say that temporal punishment for our sin in Purgatory is necessary, not merely for our own benefit (so we can be before God the Father sinless & be accepted by Him), but also for satisfaction of Justice, is going to be problematic in light of the fact that no amount of punishment for sin on our end can actually do this. If it could, this not only is not Catholic or Orthodox teaching, but it would also mean that the Redemption was actually unnecessary. It possibly becomes more of a problem when one considers that one’s prayers for someone suffering in purgatory. If the debt before Justice has to be paid through suffering, prayer can only alleviate suffering, they could not free someone from them entirely. It may well be the case that the time in which one is punished is further extended outward, even if the intensity is reduced through one’s intercession, because the requirement still needs be met. (edited)
00:52
If Christ has already rendered the most perfect satisfaction to eternal Justice for sin, and if humans are incapable of rendering sufficient satisfaction to God’s infinite justice, then saying that a soul’s own punishment in the intermediate state satisfies Justice looks like we have here a second, insufficient & creaturely “payment” for what Christ has already paid perfectly. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Our Purgatory is similar, sure. We were united for over a thousand years. We would both affirm that some men suffer in Hades because they die in a state of repentance & not in full emnity with God, but have failed to bear the fruits of said repentance here in this life, and/or on account of their failure to acquire & benefit enough from the merits Christ earnt on the Cross for Him. We would also both say that people in this state are both inevitably saved. The chief disagreement is not going to be in regard to the notion that purgative suffering assists Man’s purification from sin, since this is the intended function of the punishment for sin in this life (personal & Original) at least concerning the righteous, even if it merely by itself cannot purify Man for us: it is specifically going to be concerning this certain notion that said suffering in some way or another satisfies the Justice of God. No suffering or punishment of sin in us could pay the infinite debt before the infinite God for Original Sin & personal sin, meaning our fate was eternal punishment of this sin: which is amongst one of the several reasons why Christ, before the foundation of the world, was voluntarily slain for them so we did not have to be. This is something we both affirm wholeheartedly, contrary to the claims of some. However, because this is so, satisfaction of Justice from our punishment is no longer necessary, because the debt for sin we all had before God was paid in full. Man can now avoid punishment of sin in himself & have eternal life if he: i)Has a living faith in Christ, His sacrifice, & second-coming, which ii) culminates & is fulfilled in union with His Church, & iii) a life of struggle, repentance & Christian virtue (if it is His will, which it is for most.) If He fails to take up this opporturnity freely offered to Him out of Christ’s mercy, He does not benefit from it and after the general resurrection is Hell-bound. If a Man is saved, yet undergoes purgation nevertheless, this is because (as I said above) he failed to fully acquire the merits of Christ in his life. But, this cannot be to satisfy God’s Justice, because it already was perfectly satisfied by Christ. This is for the benefit of Man, so that he may be fully purified of sin & ready to enter the Kingdom. To say that temporal punishment for our sin in Purgatory is necessary, not merely for our own benefit (so we can be before God the Father sinless & be accepted by Him), but also for satisfaction of Justice, is going to be problematic in light of the fact that no amount of punishment for sin on our end can actually do this. If it could, this not only is not Catholic or Orthodox teaching, but it would also mean that the Redemption was actually unnecessary. It possibly becomes more of a problem when one considers that one’s prayers for someone suffering in purgatory. If the debt before Justice has to be paid through suffering, prayer can only alleviate suffering, they could not free someone from them entirely. It may well be the case that the time in which one is punished is further extended outward, even if the intensity is reduced through one’s intercession, because the requirement still needs be met. (edited)
serpente482 12/22/2025 11:16
Thats just semantic games, Jesus paid the full price, but we still have to do our part to accept it, or else everyone would go to Heaven regardless if they believe in him or not. If you are in purgatory you still have stuff to do to fully receive God's salvation, thats for you and for me. And you have to get purged through the fire, its your penance and no one elses, if someone prays for you they give you strenght through God so you may overcome it because not everyone has the same strenght, you assist them in their purgation, you help them. But its theoretically possible to be able to get purged of your sins without prayers, your intercession is enormously helpful but to say that its the ONLY way to escape that purification state is way more problematic than the semantic games you can do with God's Justice because you remove the one suffering for salvation out of the equation
serpente482
Thats just semantic games, Jesus paid the full price, but we still have to do our part to accept it, or else everyone would go to Heaven regardless if they believe in him or not. If you are in purgatory you still have stuff to do to fully receive God's salvation, thats for you and for me. And you have to get purged through the fire, its your penance and no one elses, if someone prays for you they give you strenght through God so you may overcome it because not everyone has the same strenght, you assist them in their purgation, you help them. But its theoretically possible to be able to get purged of your sins without prayers, your intercession is enormously helpful but to say that its the ONLY way to escape that purification state is way more problematic than the semantic games you can do with God's Justice because you remove the one suffering for salvation out of the equation
Мико⚜🐾 12/22/2025 16:48
>Jesus paid the full price, but we still have to do our part I didn’t deny this in my response. Note that I said Man is saved only by living faith, and if God wills it (as some people in the Church die shortly after baptism or have a short life) a life of struggle for his sake. If he does not accept the reality of what Christ did for him, he is damned. >If you are in purgatory you still have stuff to do to fully receive God’s salvation True. >And you would have to get purged through the fire Also true, but again, the point here is why this has to happen. If it is to satisfy Justice, this directly contradicts the idea that Christ already paid the debt for all sin, because we are “paying” for it temporally through suffering in Hades—which cannot be sufficient to pay for it. If it is for our sake & benefit, & so we can be received by God pure, then this does not contradict the idea. (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
>Jesus paid the full price, but we still have to do our part I didn’t deny this in my response. Note that I said Man is saved only by living faith, and if God wills it (as some people in the Church die shortly after baptism or have a short life) a life of struggle for his sake. If he does not accept the reality of what Christ did for him, he is damned. >If you are in purgatory you still have stuff to do to fully receive God’s salvation True. >And you would have to get purged through the fire Also true, but again, the point here is why this has to happen. If it is to satisfy Justice, this directly contradicts the idea that Christ already paid the debt for all sin, because we are “paying” for it temporally through suffering in Hades—which cannot be sufficient to pay for it. If it is for our sake & benefit, & so we can be received by God pure, then this does not contradict the idea. (edited)
serpente482 12/22/2025 17:10
God's Justice demands you to enter as an ordered being, being disordered is something that needs fixing through purgatory, that has nothing to do with the validity of Christ sacrifice. God is just, he wont let the unjust enter his just kingdom, through Christ the unjust can enter but they still have to become just, nothing with stains will enter Heaven
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17:11
Semantic game
17:14
@Мико⚜🐾 but why only through prayers you can escape orthopurge
Eurocyon 12/22/2025 18:27
serpente482
God's Justice demands you to enter as an ordered being, being disordered is something that needs fixing through purgatory, that has nothing to do with the validity of Christ sacrifice. God is just, he wont let the unjust enter his just kingdom, through Christ the unjust can enter but they still have to become just, nothing with stains will enter Heaven
Мико⚜🐾 12/22/2025 20:51
I think I can accept this sort of framing of it for now
20:51
I was going off of what I had read prior
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/23/2025 06:01
>"if Jesus was real he would agree with me" >"No I hate your God but he would agree with me" >"Errrm I'm not a Christian but I'm probably more Christian than 90% of Christians"
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
>"if Jesus was real he would agree with me" >"No I hate your God but he would agree with me" >"Errrm I'm not a Christian but I'm probably more Christian than 90% of Christians"
Eurocyon 12/23/2025 06:02
How I hate the goyim
Eurocyon 12/25/2025 01:29
"No soul can imagine what delights are kept in store for them as a reward for what they used to do." - As-Sajdah 17
Incel Furvert Chud 12/25/2025 06:10
Although I don’t believe it is the truth, and I know I will get a lot of hate for saying this, I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Islam
Incel Furvert Chud
Although I don’t believe it is the truth, and I know I will get a lot of hate for saying this, I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Islam
Eurocyon 12/25/2025 16:29
I am just not a fan of how Salafism is growing in popularity, which during the islamic golden age with Ibn Tammiya was considered almost heresy. Despite Salafists claiming that they'd fit right in those times.
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16:29
The only Salafist I like ^
16:33
"Indeed, We have granted you ˹O Prophet˺ abundant goodness. So pray and sacrifice to your Lord ˹alone˺. Only the one who hates you is truly cut off ˹from any goodness˺." - Al-Kawthar 1-3
Eurocyon
I am just not a fan of how Salafism is growing in popularity, which during the islamic golden age with Ibn Tammiya was considered almost heresy. Despite Salafists claiming that they'd fit right in those times.
Incel Furvert Chud 12/25/2025 17:48
salafists take Islam to a nonsensically strict extreme
Incel Furvert Chud
salafists take Islam to a nonsensically strict extreme
Eurocyon 12/25/2025 17:50
like Protestants especially Calvinists or Puritans
Eurocyon
like Protestants especially Calvinists or Puritans
Incel Furvert Chud 12/25/2025 17:56
that is a good comparison
17:57
if puritans and calvinists were as big today as they were a few hundred years ago, they would be doing the exact same things the salafis do
Incel Furvert Chud
if puritans and calvinists were as big today as they were a few hundred years ago, they would be doing the exact same things the salafis do
Eurocyon 12/25/2025 18:01
The images of Christians being puritanical come from calvinists
Eurocyon
I am just not a fan of how Salafism is growing in popularity, which during the islamic golden age with Ibn Tammiya was considered almost heresy. Despite Salafists claiming that they'd fit right in those times.
Мико⚜🐾 12/25/2025 18:12
Literalist readings seemingly came before allegorical reading of Qur’an and hadith though
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or at least are recorded prior
18:13
I think you have a mix of both early on, which is why you'll see a caliph that’s horrible to Christians one moment, and one that tolerates them One that destroys all art, one that is more lenient (edited)
18:14
With certain things remaining consistent between them
18:14
Taymiyyah is a goofball though nevertheless
Мико⚜🐾
Literalist readings seemingly came before allegorical reading of Qur’an and hadith though
Eurocyon 12/25/2025 18:15
The Ummayds for example, an empire that Salafists hail as one of the Tabi'un, a basis to base Islam off. Because the Ummayds lived during the time of the Prophet, during both periods allegory was an accepted interpretation as far as my historical knowledge is concerned.
Incel Furvert Chud
Although I don’t believe it is the truth, and I know I will get a lot of hate for saying this, I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Islam
Мико⚜🐾 12/25/2025 18:16
That of Ibn Sina & Ibn Rushd? I have some respect for it myself
Eurocyon 12/25/2025 18:17
Also a debate I know that happened during the time of Muhammad can be argued to be literalist or allegorical is wether or not Ibliss was a angel are not.
Мико⚜🐾 12/25/2025 18:17
The bits and pieces of Ibn Arabi I’ve seen are cool too
Eurocyon 12/25/2025 18:18
Ibn Arabi has nice poetry, it's just alot of his teachings could be argued to be antithetical to Islam. I however am not the most familiar with his theology.
Eurocyon
The images of Christians being puritanical come from calvinists
Incel Furvert Chud 12/25/2025 18:31
quite true
Мико⚜🐾
That of Ibn Sina & Ibn Rushd? I have some respect for it myself
Incel Furvert Chud 12/25/2025 18:32
I had an Iranian Shia friend who I had talked to a lot about it and hearing what he said, it painted Islam in a new light for me
Incel Furvert Chud
I had an Iranian Shia friend who I had talked to a lot about it and hearing what he said, it painted Islam in a new light for me
Мико⚜🐾 12/25/2025 19:00
Yeah, Shias are far more tolerable than the Abdools you see online
19:01
Though they aren’t perfect themselves, what with all of the mutah (edited)
Eurocyon 12/25/2025 19:04
Shia's for the most part are heretical
19:05
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https://fxtwitter.com/ojora/status/2004072051666247805?s=20
Hussain al-Naijiri (@ojora)
Quoting Noah’s Ark (@NoahsArk1000) ︀ What have you learned from Jews in 2025?
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Мико⚜🐾
Yeah, Shias are far more tolerable than the Abdools you see online
Incel Furvert Chud 12/25/2025 19:08
He told me about Husayn and Karbala, and that has always stuck with me
Eurocyon
https://fxtwitter.com/ojora/status/2004072051666247805?s=20
VikingTiger6 12/25/2025 19:44
This guy actually believes jews
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Eurocyon 12/25/2025 19:45
ISIS is a known MOSSAD agent and famously is funded by Isreal
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Eurocyon
ISIS is a known MOSSAD agent and famously is funded by Isreal
VikingTiger6 12/25/2025 19:46
The anonymous hacker known as 4chan
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Eluna 12/25/2025 19:47
isis is a israeli funded group
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this should be a known fact by now
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but the attacks they claim outside of the islamic state are not funded by them
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/25/2025 23:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrohDjsXADM
Leaflit & Asari
This is scary..
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Both me n Leaflit in stunned silence at this.
Eurocyon 12/25/2025 23:14
"Guys this AI narrated modern society and I am like so shook"
Eurocyon
"Guys this AI narrated modern society and I am like so shook"
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/25/2025 23:15
I could rip off your twink limbs with my bare hands.
Eurocyon 12/25/2025 23:16
dude you're a 30yo man on discord, you bleed estrogen.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/25/2025 23:16
He thinks I don't work out.
Eurocyon 12/25/2025 23:16
Is blud trying to internet tough guy me?
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/25/2025 23:17
You made a claim I am immasculated, I gave the rebuttal that I work out.
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You are NOT aryan.
Eurocyon 12/25/2025 23:18
You're insecure, touch grass.
Eurocyon
You're insecure, touch grass.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/25/2025 23:19
Your turn.
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AaWoolf 12/26/2025 01:37
I am not worthy of calling myself a brother of you people, I fail the Lord too often in all the temptations and the world is unfortunately too alive in me. My works and seeming outward righteousness are as mere facades that pale in comparison to the hidden rot within. And as Paul wrote "For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do." How does one then cut off the hand which causes them to stumble? How doth one break the chains of sin?
Eurocyon 12/26/2025 03:15
The Ethiopian Orthodox church and some minor movements in other churches preach this.
Eurocyon 12/26/2025 03:28
https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/2004286930276524141 (edited)
Yasin Abdel Magid Mekkawy al-Hasani (@yasinabdelmagid)
This post is dishonest and ignorant, both of Islamic law and history; ︀︀ ︀︀The Qur’anic foundation: ︀︀ ︀︀The Qur’an itself mentions a dog positively and neutrally, as a companion of the righteous: ︀︀ ︀︀“And their companion animal lay with its forelegs stretched at the entrance.” ︀︀(Qur’an 18:18) ︀︀ ︀︀Allah mentions the dog of the People of the Cave without condemnation, alongside believing youths whom He praises. Classical exegetes explain that the mention of the dog here is honourable by association, showing that even animals accompanying the righteous are included in Allah’s signs. This alone refutes the claim that Islam treats dogs as inherently vile. ︀︀ ︀︀The hadith about killing dogs: context, place, and reason ︀︀ ︀︀The hadith cited (Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1570) relates to a specific situation in early Madinah: ︀︀•Wild, aggressive dogs ︀︀•Public health and safety risks ︀︀•Lack of sanitation…
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Twitter post with alot of important context about dogs in Islam for those curious
Eurocyon
The Ethiopian Orthodox church and some minor movements in other churches preach this.
Meathook Marty 12/26/2025 03:33
posted old covenant award
Meathook Marty
posted old covenant award
Eurocyon 12/26/2025 03:34
Did you even read the text I attached to it you knobhead
Meathook Marty 12/26/2025 03:36
ethiopian orthodox are not in communion w/ regular orthodox, they preach miaphysitism or something
Eurocyon 12/26/2025 03:37
Missed the point oi vey
Incel Furvert Chud 12/26/2025 04:00
@Eurocyonwhy do Sunni view Husayn as a martyr, but don't celebrate him on Ashurah like the Shia do?
Incel Furvert Chud
@Eurocyonwhy do Sunni view Husayn as a martyr, but don't celebrate him on Ashurah like the Shia do?
Eurocyon 12/26/2025 04:00
I am gonna sleep
04:00
Go ask an AI or google
Eurocyon
I am gonna sleep
Incel Furvert Chud 12/26/2025 04:00
it's just because they're too tired?
Eurocyon
The Ethiopian Orthodox church and some minor movements in other churches preach this.
Мико⚜🐾 12/26/2025 04:41
For the EOTC, it’s a cultural thing, something of practice, nd not a matter of dogma (edited)
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Or they wouldn’t be in communion with other Churches who do not impose the same rule
AaWoolf
I am not worthy of calling myself a brother of you people, I fail the Lord too often in all the temptations and the world is unfortunately too alive in me. My works and seeming outward righteousness are as mere facades that pale in comparison to the hidden rot within. And as Paul wrote "For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do." How does one then cut off the hand which causes them to stumble? How doth one break the chains of sin?
Мико⚜🐾 12/26/2025 04:42
Romans 3:23
BibleBot BOT 12/26/2025 04:42
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/26/2025 05:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iieyC5w2uUk
Leaflit & Asari
This is why people are leaving the Church..
Eurocyon
The Ethiopian Orthodox church and some minor movements in other churches preach this.
VikingTiger6 12/26/2025 05:19
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acts 10
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AaWoolf
I am not worthy of calling myself a brother of you people, I fail the Lord too often in all the temptations and the world is unfortunately too alive in me. My works and seeming outward righteousness are as mere facades that pale in comparison to the hidden rot within. And as Paul wrote "For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do." How does one then cut off the hand which causes them to stumble? How doth one break the chains of sin?
serpente482 12/26/2025 11:06
By getting up each time and letting Jesus carry your burdens
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AaWoolf
I am not worthy of calling myself a brother of you people, I fail the Lord too often in all the temptations and the world is unfortunately too alive in me. My works and seeming outward righteousness are as mere facades that pale in comparison to the hidden rot within. And as Paul wrote "For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do." How does one then cut off the hand which causes them to stumble? How doth one break the chains of sin?
Мико⚜🐾 12/26/2025 11:08
Let me send more than just a bible verse: the struggle against sin is a lifelong & nearly universal one (edited)
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And is nearly impossible on our own
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Hence why God, in His love & mercy, covers us with His merits earnt for us on the Cross
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AaWoolf
I am not worthy of calling myself a brother of you people, I fail the Lord too often in all the temptations and the world is unfortunately too alive in me. My works and seeming outward righteousness are as mere facades that pale in comparison to the hidden rot within. And as Paul wrote "For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do." How does one then cut off the hand which causes them to stumble? How doth one break the chains of sin?
Incel Furvert Chud 12/26/2025 16:34
Go to war, you’ll feel better then.
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Eurocyon 12/26/2025 20:05
Eurocyon
The Ethiopian Orthodox church and some minor movements in other churches preach this.
Xbox360hoodmoments 12/26/2025 20:38
Me when Old Testament
Eurocyon
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VikingTiger6 12/26/2025 22:50
theres chinese legends that buddhism is just a sect of daoism, and buddhist legends that daoism is just a sect of buddhism
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its really funny
VikingTiger6
theres chinese legends that buddhism is just a sect of daoism, and buddhist legends that daoism is just a sect of buddhism
Eurocyon 12/26/2025 22:50
I am more than aware
Arcane BOT 12/26/2025 22:50
@Eurocyon has reached level 18. GG!
Eurocyon 12/26/2025 22:52
The Chinese claim Laozi taugth the Budda or was the Budda after he left on his water buffalo.
Zoraxe 12/27/2025 16:47
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Xbox360hoodmoments 12/27/2025 19:04
https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DSu61CejlW2/?igsh=MXNvemJhYXdvbHZkMw==
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Мико⚜🐾 12/27/2025 20:08
https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/1982088120213680324
Arm (@aabbbbcc33)
Almost the ENTIRE Gospel of John (98%) is preserved in manuscripts PRIOR to the 4th century
Мико⚜🐾 12/27/2025 22:25
https://youtu.be/pJDYUstzKDI
Orthodox Wisdom
We Should Not Justify Our Passions - St. Paisios the Athonite
Мико⚜🐾 12/29/2025 05:02
Eurocyon 12/29/2025 17:55
https://fxtwitter.com/TheIronWarden/status/2004941073202782460?s=20
The Redeemed (@TheIronWarden)
✠ WHAT DESTROYS A MAN ✠ ︀︀ ︀︀Sin killed Jesus. ︀︀Not nails alone, but rebellion of the heart. ︀︀ ︀︀Lust kills love, ︀︀for it consumes what it was meant to guard. ︀︀ ︀︀Fear kills faith, ︀︀for it forgets who reigns above the storm. ︀︀ ︀︀Anger kills patience, ︀︀turning strength into ruin. ︀︀ ︀︀Laziness kills ambition, ︀︀burying purpose before it can rise. ︀︀ ︀︀Distraction kills action, ︀︀silencing duty with comfort and noise. ︀︀…
Eurocyon 12/29/2025 21:49
https://youtu.be/zcga-EKNDME?si=-qoCKKJ3ZxX89rE5
Farhan Ahmed Zia
Refuting ⁨@TestifyApologetics⁩: Did The Quran Predict Muhammad'...
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Eurocyon
https://youtu.be/zcga-EKNDME?si=-qoCKKJ3ZxX89rE5
serpente482 12/29/2025 22:27
How do muslims cope with the fact allah killed mohammad for no reason at all
serpente482
How do muslims cope with the fact allah killed mohammad for no reason at all
Eurocyon 12/29/2025 22:29
Everyone dies
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Even you.
Eurocyon
https://youtu.be/zcga-EKNDME?si=-qoCKKJ3ZxX89rE5
Мико⚜🐾 12/29/2025 22:31
No one is watching this twin
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Eurocyon
Everyone dies
serpente482 12/29/2025 23:38
But Allah talked to him always and he just didnt tell him he was getting poisoned
serpente482
But Allah talked to him always and he just didnt tell him he was getting poisoned
Eurocyon 12/29/2025 23:39
Everyone dies
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I am not arguing with you about it
Eurocyon
Everyone dies
serpente482 12/29/2025 23:39
But not everyone dies posioned
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Jesus died crucified and that had meaning
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serpente482
How do muslims cope with the fact allah killed mohammad for no reason at all
Xbox360hoodmoments 12/30/2025 03:03
“Yo if im a liar god would surly kill me right?”
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I find it a bit funny tho that the Jews killed Muhammad and Jesus
Xbox360hoodmoments
I find it a bit funny tho that the Jews killed Muhammad and Jesus
Eurocyon 12/30/2025 03:05
They hated them because they were right, do not google what Muhammad actually said about the Jews.
Xbox360hoodmoments 12/30/2025 03:06
Eurocyon 12/30/2025 03:06
Especially relating to Al Dajjal (the Islamic Anti-Christ)
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Al Dajjal, in Islam would be a Jewish guy from Khorason who would free Gag and Magog; with an army of Jews (likely the athiestic kind IMO).
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Who will attempt to bring an age of darkness, and kill Islam and other religions. In which Jesus Christ will return to smite him with a chosen Bedouin man.
serpente482
Jesus died crucified and that had meaning
Мико⚜🐾 12/30/2025 06:20
Christ died to save us from the punishment of sin in us that we justly deserved, and to give us eternal life in Him.
Мико⚜🐾 12/30/2025 07:59
John 15:13
BibleBot BOT 12/30/2025 07:59
Xbox360hoodmoments 12/31/2025 04:06
Yeahhhh im convinced we are gonna see the second coming of Christ soon
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Evil shit is getting wayyyyyyy too comfortable in the norm now
Xbox360hoodmoments
Yeahhhh im convinced we are gonna see the second coming of Christ soon
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/31/2025 04:50
Christ returning before I finish my webcomic would be really frustrating.
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He's waited 2000 years so far, maybe He can wait another 100 more? (edited)
Xbox360hoodmoments
Yeahhhh im convinced we are gonna see the second coming of Christ soon
Мико⚜🐾 12/31/2025 04:54
this & yubo have been around for years
Xbox360hoodmoments
Evil shit is getting wayyyyyyy too comfortable in the norm now
Мико⚜🐾 12/31/2025 04:54
Things will become unimaginable and natural disaster will be rife
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Due to sin
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/31/2025 04:55
Sigh
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Need to get right with Christ.
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Ah, the struggle against sin. A never ending battle.
Мико⚜🐾 12/31/2025 04:58
Need to get right with Christ myself too
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Next service I can attend isnt until Saturday..
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/31/2025 04:59
I'll go to today's service I think. I missed Sunday's because I overslept and my sleep schedule's been turbo fucked lately.
Мико⚜🐾
Next service I can attend isnt until Saturday..
Мико⚜🐾 12/31/2025 05:01
at least one with confession
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/31/2025 05:01
I dunno what it's like in other Catholic parishes but mine has confession every day of the week besides Sunday.
Xbox360hoodmoments 12/31/2025 05:02
I confess in prayer
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05:02
Idk about yall but ts changed me it’s insane
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/31/2025 05:03
Confessing in prayer is good but confessing to your priest is more difficult, shows growth and you're given penance for your sins which I find helps a lot in growing spiritually.
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Xbox360hoodmoments 12/31/2025 05:04
If I’m being honest it would take a lot more for me to confess directly to the lord then it would to a priest. Telling it out loud doesn’t make me feel any better. It’s when I earnestly feel it that I feel better
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Now don’t get me wrong I have no problem with priest confessions. Just never was my thing
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 12/31/2025 05:06
Well you still confess to your priest when you're earnest about your feelings towards your sins too, that still applies. Then the penance your priest issues is like a little task for you to work on over the week so to better help you combat the sin/sins you addressed in confession.
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If you're confessing alone in prayer you'd have to then hold yourself accountable by giving yourself penance which uhh... I dunno for me personally, I'd break that easier than if it's issued by a priest.
Xbox360hoodmoments
I confess in prayer
Мико⚜🐾 12/31/2025 05:08
Well yes, ofc you can do that too. But scripture also speaks of confession before the congregation as well, which was practiced in the Ancient Church actually, as the Apostles & those they selected by the laying down of hands were given a charism to “bind & loose” and even forgive sins. Read Matthew 18 & John 20. Of course God can forgive sin without the priest, but the priest is the assurance of that forgiveness of sin & reconciliation with God. This however was slowly phased out due to some of the drawbacks of the practice of group confessions, as people who were not a part of the Church would attend and use what they confessed against them. The priest is understood as a representation or stand in for the congregation. Also, I would note that the embarrassment of admitting these actions to another man, although one should be just as embarrassed before the eyes of God if not more, can hold one accountable and break the cycle of habitual sin in itself. @Xbox360hoodmoments (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Well yes, ofc you can do that too. But scripture also speaks of confession before the congregation as well, which was practiced in the Ancient Church actually, as the Apostles & those they selected by the laying down of hands were given a charism to “bind & loose” and even forgive sins. Read Matthew 18 & John 20. Of course God can forgive sin without the priest, but the priest is the assurance of that forgiveness of sin & reconciliation with God. This however was slowly phased out due to some of the drawbacks of the practice of group confessions, as people who were not a part of the Church would attend and use what they confessed against them. The priest is understood as a representation or stand in for the congregation. Also, I would note that the embarrassment of admitting these actions to another man, although one should be just as embarrassed before the eyes of God if not more, can hold one accountable and break the cycle of habitual sin in itself. @Xbox360hoodmoments (edited)
Xbox360hoodmoments 12/31/2025 06:18
That’s the thing I was saying I don’t really feel embarrassed confessing. I would tho if given the opportunity go to a confessional. Imo just didn’t seem vital
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
I dunno what it's like in other Catholic parishes but mine has confession every day of the week besides Sunday.
serpente482 12/31/2025 11:00
1 hour before Church
11:00
Also you can ask the priest anywhere aswell
Xbox360hoodmoments
That’s the thing I was saying I don’t really feel embarrassed confessing. I would tho if given the opportunity go to a confessional. Imo just didn’t seem vital
serpente482 12/31/2025 11:05
It is vital, if you just sinned and you go pray and ask for forgiveness 5 minutes after while your relation with God has been damaged you wont feel the same forgiveness and liberation as after confession
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Eurocyon 12/31/2025 13:51
https://youtu.be/x8dOBawh80M?si=4OT2IOi2W0p7rgg2
Salsabil
What We Muslims Get WRONG About the Trinity | Clearing Misconceptions
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VikingTiger6 01/09/2026 01:54
Oh ill delete my messages then
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GR 01/09/2026 05:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU0D0q-19L0
I,Hypocrite
Christianity in the Third Reich
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Мико⚜🐾 01/09/2026 18:22
Hitler was at worst a Marcionite
18:23
So still heretical, and in that sense he hated Christ, but fake news nevertheless A lot of this guy’s sources have been repeatedly pointed out as not reputable (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Hitler was at worst a Marcionite
Incel Furvert Chud 01/09/2026 18:30
Hitler was a Maronite?
Ad Envyought 01/09/2026 18:36
lowkenuinely if anything Hitler was a Muslim
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Incel Furvert Chud
Hitler was a Maronite?
serpente482 01/09/2026 18:42
hitler was a marronite
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VikingTiger6 01/10/2026 05:56
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serpente482 01/10/2026 21:28
Now do kepha
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Free 01/13/2026 02:37
logoi vs Logos
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teloi vs Telos
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Free 01/13/2026 02:41
creation Ex Nihilo
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 02:42
don't let him bully you, he is evil
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Free 01/13/2026 02:43
Sophia is the Son
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Wisdom is most attributed to the Son (edited)
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The Son is the Logos
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we are the logoi
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but yeah you kinda got it down more or less
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the purpose of logoi is to be united with Logos
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Theosis
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nothing can reveal the essence of God
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for it is entirely unknowable to creatures
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we become by grace what God is by essence
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what i’m describing is a sorta panentheistic Christianity
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ofc
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without the connotation that God is dependent on creation
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God is eternally creator even before all creation.
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for He eternally generates His Son
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yes
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But God is not merely two
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two produces relation of opposition, but three allows relation without dialectic
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the Trinity is eternally distinctive in Persons, the relationships are constitutive, and unity precedes opposition.
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Free 01/13/2026 02:57
He is identical with Wisdom
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God is simple with no composition (edited)
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God is identical with Love
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God is identical with Truth
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God simply doesn’t have truth, He is Truth
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God is Pure Act
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nothing in God is had, rather identical with God
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only the Christian God is this way.
Мико⚜🐾 01/13/2026 03:25
Ohh, so you’re a Sophiologist? Interesting
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I haven’t read much of that stuff from Fr. Bulgakov, only bits and pieces of his Spiritual Diary tbh
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Free 01/13/2026 03:29
uhh basic Christian Theology..
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lol
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Free 01/13/2026 03:33
heard what
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divine simplicity ?
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Free 01/13/2026 03:34
i’m Eastern Catholic.
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it’s part of my tradition as a Russian Catholic
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okay
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Мико⚜🐾 01/13/2026 03:35
It can certainly be understood in a heretical way
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Whether the system or adoption of some of its ideas necessitates heresy is not something I will comment on, because I haven’t delved into the topic too much (edited)
Free
He is identical with Wisdom
Мико⚜🐾 01/13/2026 03:36
But what he said here is basic Christian belief
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We affirm pure act
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Free 01/13/2026 03:37
like what
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you’re only saying it’s controversial
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but you don’t even know the basic objections
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you don’t even know basic christian doctrine
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so i really don’t trust your integrity on your knowledge of any subject pertaining to christianity (edited)
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especially with something so niche as Sophiology
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Free
you don’t even know basic christian doctrine
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 03:41
most people who leave Christianity don't. probably all apostates actually
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Free 01/13/2026 03:41
have you noticed ? or can you read and actually understand why on a deeper level rather than what it says superficially on a wikipedia page (edited)
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Free 01/13/2026 03:43
you have not said anything worth me trusting your credibility
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Free 01/13/2026 03:44
it’s better read in russian
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He’s describing that the Logos is the personal bearer of the logoi, not their totality as essence
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Мико⚜🐾 01/13/2026 03:47
You don’t actually have a basic understanding of the religion is the point
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Which is a good one tbh
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Why was Christ’s death necessary according to us? (edited)
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Мико⚜🐾 01/13/2026 03:47
Wisdom is uncreated doofus
Мико⚜🐾
Why was Christ’s death necessary according to us? (edited)
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 03:47
because he was like a jew or some shit (idk, I'm an esoteric hitlerist)
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Incel Furvert Chud
because he was like a jew or some shit (idk, I'm an esoteric hitlerist)
Free 01/13/2026 03:49
Мико⚜🐾
Wisdom is uncreated doofus
Мико⚜🐾 01/13/2026 03:49
But yes, the Word of God is referred to as Wisdom, without being the actual activity of Divine Wisdom itself. (edited)
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Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 03:49
It's literally me!!!
Мико⚜🐾
Why was Christ’s death necessary according to us? (edited)
Мико⚜🐾 01/13/2026 03:49
Why is the Trinity necessary?
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You should read that catechism from Metropolitan Plato & the one from Fr. Daniel Sysoev tbh (edited)
Incel Furvert Chud
It's literally me!!!
GR 01/13/2026 03:50
don't let dirlewanger see this bro (edited)
GR
don't let dirlewanger see this bro (edited)
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 03:50
I should have been in Wagner, could have been cutting through pigs rn instead of wasting my life frfr
Мико⚜🐾
You should read that catechism from Metropolitan Plato & the one from Fr. Daniel Sysoev tbh (edited)
Free 01/13/2026 03:51
A better one for beginners is probably St. John Damascus
Free
A better one for beginners is probably St. John Damascus
Мико⚜🐾 01/13/2026 03:51
Ohh yeah, that’s good too
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Probably better tbh
Free 01/13/2026 03:52
On the Orthodox Faith is a great introductory
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but i would plead that Theology does not save.
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The nous is only a facility given to understand God
Free
but i would plead that Theology does not save.
Мико⚜🐾 01/13/2026 03:52
It’s true, those books are nothing if you never apply them in your life (edited)
Free 01/13/2026 03:53
i’m never really interested in theology
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i like more monastic correspondence
03:54
The Ladder of Divine Ascent is probably my fav Christian work aside from scripture itself
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Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 03:54
theology is confusing and boring, politics and philosophy are far more interesting
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03:55
I'm not soy, I'm just not interested in theology
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03:55
not my area of study
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Free
The Ladder of Divine Ascent is probably my fav Christian work aside from scripture itself
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 03:56
why are yuo being so mean to me???
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Мико⚜🐾 01/13/2026 03:58
Мико⚜🐾
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GR 01/13/2026 03:58
LMAO I knew it
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Free 01/13/2026 04:00
bro does not get it
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Free 01/13/2026 04:01
you clearly do have basic understanding bro
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Free 01/13/2026 04:01
don’t get mad
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i’m not mad
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i’m just saying you really don’t know what your talking about
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i mean that not as an insult
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Free 01/13/2026 04:04
i’d recommend On the Orthodox Faith by St. John Damascus
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if you want to understand more niche content
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 04:05
love when latinxes get so angry that they have to switch to beanspeak
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Free 01/13/2026 04:06
did you know that it is the belief of all muslims that you cannot understand muslim theology unless you know arabic ?
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Free 01/13/2026 04:07
pointing that out doesn’t invalidate it
GR
LMAO I knew it
Мико⚜🐾 01/13/2026 04:07
it was pretty obvious, esp. in the way it was explained as well, sounded a bit modernist
Free 01/13/2026 04:09
bro uses grammerly ai
04:09
honestly i should’ve just stopped
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i feel sorry at this point
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i should’ve just not engaged when i plainly saw a muslim furry
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04:10
no shade
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Free 01/13/2026 04:10
Ai text
Free
i should’ve just not engaged when i plainly saw a muslim furry
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 04:10
xe is very dishonest and will betray you should you choose to ever let yuor guard down
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Free 01/13/2026 04:11
actually yeah it does because you have to understand arabic to know islam
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yes actually
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btw everytime you said Jesus you didn’t say peace be upon Him
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Free 01/13/2026 04:13
to understand Islamic theology you need to know Arabic is literally a dogma in Islam
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lol
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Free 01/13/2026 04:13
i said it’s a dogma
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you’re not debating with me
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your debating with islam rn
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this isn’t my belief
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this is Islam’s belief
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you are
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ohhh the pantheists !
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wait wait wait
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do you know allah’s uncreated foot !!!
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it’s completely necessary !!
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truuuusttt
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Free 01/13/2026 04:16
explain pantheism
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without using ur ai
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literally sufi’s
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did the sufi’s say you can be a furry ?
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wallahim
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anyways, time to sleep
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Free 01/13/2026 04:18
answer the question
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Free 01/13/2026 04:20
do you think if you went to a muslim country they would accept you
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as a furry
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have you ask your muslim teacher if you can be a furry ?
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Free 01/13/2026 04:26
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is this you
Free
as a furry
Мико⚜🐾 01/13/2026 04:27
They definitely would bro, trust (edited)
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Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 04:27
only if it's a goatsona
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Free 01/13/2026 04:28
@Eurocyon why are you lying to my friend alora
Free
@Eurocyon why are you lying to my friend alora
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 04:29
could you introduce me to her?
Incel Furvert Chud
could you introduce me to her?
Free 01/13/2026 04:29
she’s engaged
Free
she’s engaged
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 04:29
if that ends, can you introduce me to her?
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Incel Furvert Chud
if that ends, can you introduce me to her?
Free 01/13/2026 04:30
no chuddie
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 04:30
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy???
Incel Furvert Chud
only if it's a goatsona
Мико⚜🐾 01/13/2026 04:30
they would loooooove him huh
Мико⚜🐾
they would loooooove him huh
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 04:30
why is she being so mean to me?
Free
no chuddie
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 04:30
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Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 04:34
don't talk to me please, I have not addressed you
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don't reply to me
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I do not see you as a friend anymore
Incel Furvert Chud
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Free 01/13/2026 04:43
bro is not the basher
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did bro delete his whole account
Free
bro is not the basher
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 04:44
I literally am
Incel Furvert Chud
I literally am
Free 01/13/2026 04:45
do you know deku from fortnite
Free
do you know deku from fortnite
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 04:45
I only know raven team leader :(
Incel Furvert Chud
I only know raven team leader :(
Free 01/13/2026 04:47
lemme guess your favorite anime is my dress up dxd rent a darling
Free
lemme guess your favorite anime is my dress up dxd rent a darling
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 04:47
my favorite anime is Ghost Stories
Incel Furvert Chud
my favorite anime is Ghost Stories
Free 01/13/2026 04:48
i get scared
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my moms says i can’t watch that anime
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it talks about big black men chasing you
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Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 04:48
It was quite relatable for me
Free 01/13/2026 04:49
that’s more scary than any ghost story i’ve heard
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 04:49
they are quite scary
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I don't know what they're going to do to me (edited)
Incel Furvert Chud
my favorite anime is Ghost Stories
Incel Furvert Chud 01/13/2026 04:50
it's also the only anime I've ever really watched
serpente482 01/13/2026 10:56
euroxuds whateva happened there
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Мико⚜🐾 01/13/2026 16:58
Abp. Anselm of Canterbury on the immutability of God’s honour, and in what sense it is “dishonoured” by sin & “restored” by satisfaction:
‘It is impossible for God to lose his honour; for either the sinner pays his debt of his own accord, or, if he refuse, God takes it from him. For either man renders due submission to God of his own will, by avoiding sin or making payment, or else God subjects him to himself by torments, even against man’s will, and thus shows that he is the Lord of man, though man refuses to acknowledge it of his own accord. […] Nothing can be added to or taken from the honour of God. For this honour which belongs to him is in no way subject to injury or change. But as the individual creature preserves, naturally or by reason, the condition belonging, and, as it were, allotted to him, he is said to obey and honour God; and to this, rational nature, which possesses intelligence, is especially bound. And when the being chooses what he ought, he honours God; not by bestowing anything upon him, but because he brings himself freely under God’s will and disposal, and maintains his own condition in the universe, and the beauty of the universe itself, as far as in him lies. But when he does not choose what he ought, he dishonours God, as far as the being himself is concerned, because he does not submit himself freely to God’s disposal. And he disturbs the order and beauty of the universe, as relates to himself, although he cannot injure nor tarnish the power and majesty of God. [...] ...when it is understood that God brings good out of many forms of evil, then the satisfaction for sin freely given, or if this be not given, the exaction of punishment, hold their own place and orderly beauty in the same universe. For if Divine Wisdom were not to insist upon things, when wickedness tries to disturb the right appointment, there would be, in the very universe which God ought to control, an unseemliness springing from the violation of the beauty of arrangement, and God would appear to be deficient in His management. And these two things are not only unfitting, but consequently impossible; so that satisfaction or punishment must needs follow every sin.’
`Cur Deus Homo, I.XIV, XV`
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/13/2026 20:22
@serpente482 What is your response to the idea of double predestination? (edited)
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
@serpente482 What is your response to the idea of double predestination? (edited)
serpente482 01/13/2026 20:24
no truly good God would make someone to send them to Hell
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Hell to exist must be a deliberate choice to reject God
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or else we are just toys God plays with and for no reason at all some get rewarded and others dont
Мико⚜🐾 01/14/2026 13:41
..because he had taken upon him our sins, not by constraint, but of his own good will, it behoved him to bear the punishment and wrath of God: not for his own person (which was just and invincible, and therefore could be found in no wise guilty), but for our person. So making a happy change with us, he took upon him our sinful person, and gave unto us his innocent and victorious person: wherewith we being now clothed, are freed from the curse of the law. For Christ was willingly made a curse for us, saying: As touching mine own person, both as human and divine, I am blessed and need nothing; but I will empty myself and will put upon me your person, that is to say, your human nature, and I will walk in the same among you, and will suffer death to deliver you from death. Now he thus bearing the sin of the whole world in our person, was taken, suffered, was crucified and put to death, and became a curse for us. But because he was a person divine and everlasting, it was impossible that death should hold him. Wherefore he rose again the third day from death, and now liveth for ever; and there is neither sin nor death in him any more, but mere righteousness, life and everlasting blessedness.
`Martin Luther, Commentary on Galatians 3:13` (edited)
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BibleBot BOT 01/14/2026 13:41
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/14/2026 19:11
Tonight I study Universalism and Bible Contradictions.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/14/2026 19:21
@Мико⚜🐾 @serpente482 thoughts on Universalism?
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My impulse response is "it would undermine the whole point of salvation."
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You could in essence just reject Christ and live a hedonistic lifestyle to the fullest and it wouldn't matter because you'd still end up saved eventually.
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
You could in essence just reject Christ and live a hedonistic lifestyle to the fullest and it wouldn't matter because you'd still end up saved eventually.
serpente482 01/14/2026 19:25
Christ died for all of us and God has given us free will to either accept that or reject that. Some people dont want to live with God and God gives them what they want
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/15/2026 00:07
In the event that a Layman such as myself were to meet a demon possessed person, what, if anything, could I do?
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
In the event that a Layman such as myself were to meet a demon possessed person, what, if anything, could I do?
serpente482 01/15/2026 00:29
Call a priest
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
In the event that a Layman such as myself were to meet a demon possessed person, what, if anything, could I do?
Incel Furvert Chud 01/15/2026 00:29
attack the demon
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
In the event that a Layman such as myself were to meet a demon possessed person, what, if anything, could I do?
Мико⚜🐾 01/15/2026 00:53
Call a priest
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
In the event that a Layman such as myself were to meet a demon possessed person, what, if anything, could I do?
VikingTiger6 01/15/2026 02:40
Call upon Jesus
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
In the event that a Layman such as myself were to meet a demon possessed person, what, if anything, could I do?
khaybar 01/15/2026 03:15
Priest 4 exorcism
Мико⚜🐾 01/15/2026 08:43
But didn’t Christ the Savior lead an arduous battle with the representatives [of evil]—the devil and evil people? Didn’t He suffer from them severely? Wasn’t He crucified? But after all, we suffer for our own sins, we receive what we deserve; but He, the Most Merciful One, suffered not for His sins but for the sins of others, for our human sins!... Thus, on the cross the Savior endured serious sufferings. An innocent One is condemned to a shameful death and is nailed to the cross; crowned with a crown of thorns, and pierced in the side with a spear. He endures mockery and vilification, and experiences terrible torments. But at the same time on the Cross He completes that great work of redeeming people, for which He came to earth, and by which He glorifies not only Himself, but leads others also into the Kingdom of glory, glorifying even the Cross itself.
`St. Tikhon of Moscow, The Week of the Veneration of the Cross` -# https: //pravoslavie.ru/101924.html (edited)
Мико⚜🐾
Call a priest
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/15/2026 10:07
This is assuming getting a priest is not an option
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian
This is assuming getting a priest is not an option
Мико⚜🐾 01/15/2026 10:10
pray the canon to the Guardian Angel
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or better yet, flee
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/15/2026 10:11
Running from a demon after it mocked my faith was the last thing I wanted to do.
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I prayed the Saint Michael's prayer. Psalm 91. It just mocked me. (edited)
VikingTiger6
Call upon Jesus
serpente482 01/15/2026 13:34
Tell the possesed to throw to the ground and shake while you babble
13:34
Symbolically ofc
Мико⚜🐾 01/15/2026 13:53
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Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/15/2026 14:51
Amen, the world must fall away so we can make way for the Lord
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/16/2026 01:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9BOcyF5MXo
The Good Shepherd
How to Repent correctly after you Sin _ Mar Mari Emmanuel
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Мико⚜🐾 01/17/2026 09:56
‘When God the Father was pleased to have mercy upon the fallen race of Man, to send to earth His Only-begotten Son for the deliverance of Man from the power of the Devil, and the Son of God, eternal Verity, hearkened to fulfil the will of Him that sent Him, being born in the flesh of the Most-Holy Virgin, by the Father’s good pleasure and by the co-working of the Holy Spirit—then were fulfilled those psalmic words: “Mercy and truth have met eachother.” When the incarnate Son of God and God-Man by His voluntary suffering, by His Blood, and by His death upon the Cross satisfied (удовлетворил) Divine Justice for Adam’s transgression and the other sins of men, and thus reconciled fallen Man with God—then were fulfilled the other psalmic words: “Justice and peace have kissed.” Before the coming of Christ upon the earth, there reigned upon it nothing but falsehood and the enemy’s deception, save only among the people of Israel—and even not among all of them; everywhere there was veneration of false gods and worship of idols. But when the Son of God Who became man, by His teaching and His example, restored and set in order upon the earth the true life, then holiness also appeared upon it, and heavenly righteousness; there appeared earthly angels and heavenly men, and the saying was fulfilled: “Truth shall spring out of the earth, and righteousness shall look down from heaven.” Wherefore the Apostle cries out to all Christians: “our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ.”(Phil. 3:20) The Apostle’s words mean this: that all Christians are bound to live not merely in an earthly manner, but also in a heavenly.’
`St. Ambrose of Optina`
Мико⚜🐾 01/17/2026 19:34
https://youtu.be/4buxGu3PtDo
Orthodox Wisdom
Christianity or the Church? - St. Hilarion Troitsky (III/III)
Мико⚜🐾
https://youtu.be/4buxGu3PtDo
khaybar 01/17/2026 23:15
good video
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Arcane BOT 01/17/2026 23:15
@khaybar has reached level 51. GG!
VikingTiger6 01/18/2026 07:58
@GR
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VikingTiger6
@GR
Incel Furvert Chud 01/18/2026 13:02
according to himself, wouldn’t he now have graven images on his pecs?
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VikingTiger6
@GR
GR 01/18/2026 16:19
classic lmfao
Incel Furvert Chud
according to himself, wouldn’t he now have graven images on his pecs?
VikingTiger6 01/18/2026 16:41
I dunno, thats a tuff one
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/18/2026 17:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhDRDNr0OFI
The Counsel of Trent
The “just believe in Jesus” Fallacy
Skyfoil, the Autistic Theologian 01/18/2026 21:48
Incel Furvert Chud
according to himself, wouldn’t he now have graven images on his pecs?
serpente482 01/18/2026 23:04
"According to himself" is such a protestant belief
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Graven images are only bad if they are of Holy Things
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Heretics and vegetables are okay or something
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serpente482
Graven images are only bad if they are of Holy Things
Incel Furvert Chud 01/18/2026 23:11
some protestants are like sunnis
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where art of a person is always worship
khaybar 01/19/2026 02:58
astaghfirullah music and art is HARAM only listen to nasheeds and kill kuffar.
serpente482
Graven images are only bad if they are of Holy Things
VikingTiger6 01/19/2026 05:31
graven images are bad if you worship them
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