Hello, everyone. I'm Jean Claude at Beyond Mystic, and welcome to today's special report. This is the alien invasion follow-up. With me today, of course, is the one and only Cliff High. You can find his work at cliff_high on Twitter as well as here on his substack.

Cliff, welcome back to the show. How are you, man? I'm doing fine. Well, I'm as I'm doing as well as anybody. I just had a show the other day where I'm like, oh my god, JC.

Stop fucking with our brains. And, it it seems that we're gonna be fucking with our brains a little bit more here, Cliff, today. Thank you for being on, folks. And, thank you everyone for joining us here today. We are triple casting right now on YouTube, x and Rumble.

In a couple of minutes, we are going to cut the YouTube feed so that we can have this no holds barred, conversation with you guys here today. Really appreciate you being on, on this last minute here for this very special report. Now, Cliff, before we start, I'd like to make this a, like, a stand alone video for perhaps the people who haven't seen anyone in case this goes viral, so they have a little bit more of a backdrop here for the conversation today. And it starts really, with your 39 days to mail a, video. Can you just quickly maybe take the first 4 or 5 minutes there, explain what you had way back when in the data in 2,009, how that led to Trump, Rogan interview, and where we are today?

Take that first 5 minutes, Cliff. Okay. So in, 2,009, we had a, forecast of a podcast. Podcasts weren't really well known at that point, of a unknown president with a podcaster that was gonna be a temporal marker for our inning entering into sci fi world. It's a temporal marker.

It just marks things. It's not a precursor. It doesn't mean that it had to happen in order this that this other stuff would happen. It was just shown in the data as highlighting it as sort of like, you know, a signpost on the way. Right?

But, anyway, so the temporal marker is the signpost on the was a Trump interview. And in there, in that data in 2009 was this thing about 39 days later, we would have conditions for melee. Melee is, when an organized contention breaks down into everybody fighting, everybody else with whatever is at hand, last man standing wins, that kind of thing. It's, it's not a good outcome, not a good situation. We now, in that 39 days was was after the temporal marker, and so that would have been December 3rd.

And sure enough, pretty much on schedule, all of the organized contention around these drones and the UFOs and all of that kind of stuff started rising up. As well as the other organized contention within the the humanity with, you know, the, Elohim worship cult doing all of the color revolution in Georgia and getting the everything, head up in Korea and all of this kind of stuff. Right? They're doing everything they can to create chaos in order to hopefully get enough chaos that, Trump can't come in. That's my supposition.

Okay? That's what that's why I think they're doing it. There may be deeper issues there, though. Would it also be, as above so below as we're having contention in space, maybe that it's somehow, translated into anything or see it that way. I could see it as as above so below, only in the sense that the Elohim worship cult, believe themselves to be chosen by the Elohim, their space gods, to rule humanity.

This cult believes that they have the right to farm humanity. This cult also knows that they have to report to these space aliens. And if the space aliens come back, the the cult, in my opinion, is afraid that if the space aliens come back and see their herd, which is humanity, in such disarray, that they would take it out on the herd management guys, the Elohim worship cult. Okay? So so it may be that at that level, but it's sort of a cover your ass kind of a thing.

In any event, though, we're into the the period of time where we've got nation against nation. We've got revolutions. We've got, you know, unknown drones over the the the country military bases. We've got, you know, the, migrant crisis. All of these crises coming, to basically all frothing up at the same time.

And this is gonna be the conditions for melee. And melee erupts when the command structure breaks down, and we're in the midst of that now. You can actually watch our civilian and military command structure breakdown in real time with what's going on with the so called drone. In New Jersey? Yeah.

In in New Jersey. Right. Okay. The command structure is absent, the governor doesn't show up, The military is saying bullshit that we all know is bullshit, blah blah blah blah blah. So so, obviously, they don't control anything.

And so the next, thing up is that people will react to try and control their local circumstances. So, basically, if there's a drone over their house, they're very likely to shoot at it. Mhmm. Okay. Now very quickly on the Melee part, people can go and watch your video.

I have a notes page also. If you go is go to johnmystic.net/notes, you'll see the link to those past interviews and those past videos and sub stack articles from Clef High. But I wanted to ask you precisely also in terms of the melee, you've described it as basically fighting within the fighting and outside of a generalized structure or military structure. And so that implies that you're just discussing now, the military not talking to the police vice versa, and military is fighting each other, and and perhaps also people fighting each other or fighting another contingent. I want you to maybe drill down on that human aspect.

What does it mean to the guy on the street to be in that melee as per the data right now? What's showing up? Okay. Well, so alright. So, the issue of the melee, and just the guy in the street over these well, right now, it's not not that degraded.

Okay? But it's gonna degrade fairly rapidly as things push forward. So we're in the process of actually seeing the military abandon authority. They're abandoning authority by saying, oh, no. We don't you know, there's no mother ship and there's no drones from Iran.

Okay? But we don't know what they are and you shouldn't shoot at them. Right? And we're not taking any action against them. So so this this creates a an authority hole that into which, the melee forces will start emerging.

Alright? So if you're on the street, you're not going to see necessarily a cohesive command structure. I would not count on any social services to be operational as we go forward. This would include police, fire, any of these guys. Right?

They may be, otherwise directed by what authority still exists for for operations that we're not aware of, or they may have just basically packed it in. Yeah. They might just go, fuck this shit. I'm gonna go protect my family. Exactly.

I was just gonna point out that's what happened in 1938 with, the War of the Worlds broadcast in the radio. Right? Right. The, a surprising effect that wasn't really noticed very much at that point was how many fire stations emptied as all the people ran home, same thing with police departments. It was something of a mess over the next few days getting everything sorted out because so many people abandoned their, posts in New Jersey at that time.

So you know, and it was only a 100 miles or so from where the drones are now. Right. That was the theoretical start of this war of the worlds. There's a couple of things to note here. Alright?

It's you have to, in my opinion, you have to take anything that authority says as being, oh, boy. I hope they believe it. You know? So, so if they say it's from Iran, well, you know, we'll get a logic of that. Right?

I I saw that video earlier today. I do have it on the slide deck. We'll play it for the audience here in just a moment, and we will comment on maybe why that's not very logical thinking for the most part for now. But let me do this in order as well. So I wanna go back to your substack.

Just earlier today now, you've just pushed out another piece called, not this one here, but the Trump's problem. Hold on. Let me see if we can get this one. It's Trump's problem now. Can you maybe make a quick resume of this particular one and how that ties in, how to the MLA, and how also our official may or may not respond here moving forward, Klaus?

Okay. So, so this gets into the to the other one from today as well because they're interlinked. Right? And so the the premise is the same, that the aliens know how dysfunctional our officialdom is, and they will not use officialdom in order to make official contact between our species, which they must do because humans are being, we're we're very bad neighbors. You know, even our just our regular nuke plants just sitting there making electricity cause problems for the galactic navigation and communication system because of a scalar energy.

Okay? These anytime you concentrate lots of nuclear radiation into a a single location, nuclear materials, you get a scalar, energy out of it. The scalar energy is distorting to the systems that the aliens use for communications and navigation. I'm assuming that they've got some method of isolating or blocking our bad behavior with the nuke plants, but what really scares them are the nuclear weapons, which they can't block ahead of time, time other than to come here and mess with the electronics so that they don't go off. Right?

Which which does it would suggest they've done before. Yeah. You're right. Which is they've done before. So and so but then they but that's actively messing with the matter here on Earth as opposed to setting up some kind of energetic shield, right, which is what I think they do for our our nuke plants.

But so we're kind of a problem to the space aliens, and they've decided that they for a lot of reasons, one of which was, basically told to us in 1947. They're here now, but and they've got to get us to become aware of what we're doing with our nuclear stuff and to not do that. And so, the aliens, in my opinion, are not going to be working through officialdom in the distressed, dysfunctional, republics now. They may very well decide to go and talk to Putin. Okay?

And they and they would talk to a lot of different governments that are that are not their enemies. But anybody in the 5 Western Republics, anybody controlled by NATO has been actively, aggressively shooting these guys down. And so we're not gonna be their first point of contact. This is gonna cause Trumpsters all kinds of problems because they don't want that level of it it's the same thing that motivated the government at the time in 1947 that got us into this problem right now. It's this fear of something getting out of their grasp, this fear of loss of control.

Right? And so they're they're going to react to their baser inhibitions is my under my thinking. And, the aliens are not going to be dealing with them that way, but they must deal with humanity, and the time is now. I actually think that they told people back in 1947 that this shit was gonna go down shortly, you know, in about 80 or 90 years. Right?

So they knew in advance that this was coming. I also think that the 1947 introduction of technology was supposed to seed our civilization such that we wouldn't be we wouldn't be nuclear buttheads, but also we wouldn't wouldn't be, paranoid about contact with an advanced, social order. Okay. Before we get into, the rabbi's bigly mistake, that might be language a little bit too complicated for YouTube. We'll cut the Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I forget about that one. Yeah. But before we do that too, on this particular, issue of Trump's problem.

Now during this new administration, we've seen somewhat, and I think it's valid, an openness from this administration to basically take input on who should be applying for some very key positions. People who presumably were ostracized in the last number of years who might have a role. We've seen that already with the COVID file. Now we're hearing rumbling rumblings that there perhaps some UFO guys also who've been on the circulate for a number of years that might be considered to be part of this Trump administration. Is that all hogwash at this point, or is the administration trying to find a way to be relevant in this next communication with ET if in fact ET doesn't wanna talk to them?

What's going on there? What have you heard recently? Okay. So, I've heard hogwash, about certain, personalities that there's just no basis for the statements being made that these particular individuals would be included in any kind of an officialdom capacity. Okay?

And I haven't been able to find any supporting, even leaks from the officialdom side. This is from mainly from, it's sort of like a hopium from some of the influencers. Right? Now but it is quite true the latter half of your statement. There's a lot saying that the officialdom now, that the Trumpsters have people as yet unidentified, that are in the process of poking the administration from the outside to see where they could insert individuals that may have an awareness of our situation and thus may be able to do some good in some of these roles.

Okay? So how much these individuals that are doing the analysis know about what's coming, I don't know. And so this makes it a little bit difficult. So you can imagine that there are people that have been told, we have we have this individual. Here's his skills.

Here's his wacky background. We think his wacky background is gonna be useful. We need to place him into a power position where that wacky background could be useful under specific circumstances that we can't describe to you now. Go find a slot where where we could move him in. So you're talking about people who are more disposition to talk about ontology versus the grit of the material?

No. I they haven't gotten to that point yet. So so they're they're so far behind, guy. No. They're so far behind the curve.

They have yet to make that jump. We're just talking about people that could openly admit that aliens exist and just and just basically deal with it at that level. Right? Basics here. Okay.

We're talking fundamental basics. Right? And so, so there would be the fear that you might get a bunch of fantasias in if the government is not that savvy about, surveying the WU landscape. And that, I think, is one of the potentials for, problems. Alright?

But I also think that they've got some kind of HR team or somebody looking at but I also think because of of what I've seen that this HR team is not read in. Okay? They're not woo guys, and they they they don't know who they're dealing with, and they're asking a bunch this is how I find them, is that they're asking a bunch of questions of people that expose what they're doing. Right? So the questioner reveals more than the person who answers, and that's always true in all in all conversations.

Right. Now speaking of HR team, is it possible somehow that we're being monitored if in fact, ETs are here and there's contention to be had, but there's communication to be had? Is it possible there's a I know it's getting into speculation here, but I wanna get your thoughts on this, that there is some type of either recruitment, HR team, evaluation team, from an ET's perspective that's looking at the planet right now, maybe looking at Twitter, all of these feeds to figure out who perhaps they might have a potential positive communication with. How do you see that happening? And if if, the audience members are inclined to perhaps participate in that, that's very it's a proposition as that may be, actually.

Yeah. Do you think that's gonna like, are they just gonna randomly drop in your backyard or are they is there, like, a Okay. So so we don't know what tactic they would choose to, to present themselves, but I'm quite certain that they are indeed monitoring everything. Right? And, of course, if I'm sitting on a spaceship and I've got my, spaceship that's being run by an AI that can can swoop, up any kind of frequencies I want, I'll just craft a quick little program and tell the AI, computer on the ship to, hey, monitor all this this stuff and find me some personalities that meet the following characteristics relative to what what you find in their written posts.

Right. And, and that's how I would proceed, from an a from a alien perspective. Right? But it would be very dangerous to pop into people's backyards, especially if they're in, like, an urban environment. Right?

Just because you're gonna trigger the neighbors. And also, it wouldn't be wise at this point, in my opinion, they're not gonna do things like come on down and, you know, put a whole town to sleep in order that they can go and talk to the one guy that they need to chat with. Right? They don't wanna have that kind of, heavy hand, showing. They have to treat us very gently because they're basically, inviting us to, to communicate and interact with them.

And, so, and they and they desperately don't want to initiate conflict where none need exist because our response is gonna be to go to nuclear weapons. Right. Okay. In terms of that HR process, perhaps the ETs, if they're listening, they can simply look at the Ministry of Truth that was put up by the White Administration and take that list. It's probably a good place to start.

Probably a lot of good people on there we would wanna talk to moving forward. Okay. Well, okay. But see, there's a lot more criteria to it than just, you know, r and d and with each other. Right?

No. Right. Yeah. It's been the beginning. It's that first prescreening level.

You said, okay. I've made it. And now let's look at the different criterias, depending if you're talking about science or economy or social, order or whatever. Okay. I'm having too much fun with this.

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So, Cliff, the next part of the segment here was the one you put out today, which I haven't seen. You just posted it before we went live earlier today. It was this, rabbi's bigly mistake. What do you mean by that? What's going on here?

How does that tie into the situation? Okay. So there is an old guy sitting on his deck, smoking a blunt, watching the the spaceship land and the guy and the little critter get out. The guy does not seem particularly concerned. Right?

He's just gonna see and wait and see what happens. This is the attitude we should be having. Unfortunately, we're not going to have that. We've we've encountered a situation. I've run it through AI a couple of time couple of different AIs, and it keeps ending up with the same rather dismal projection.

Now, this dismal projection is reinforced by the data stuff that I just done today, last night, and, sent you in the email. Okay? The reason I sent it to you and the reason I did the further work with the AI is because if you really read into all of that data and and look at it like you're gonna develop a novel or something from it, it reads very much like you're trying to describe what happened to the, Native American tribes here in the US encountering the more sophisticated technical civilization of the European invaders. Right? Or the Spanish, however you wanna look at it.

Right? And so we see that the the the inferior, technically inferior civilization of the Native Americans is pushed further to the West and degraded, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, suffers all of these ills on meeting with the, technically enhanced, European civilization. Okay. This is this is not isolated to that area. This happens everywhere throughout history as, you know, we see technical improvements.

So bronze swords dominate copper swords, copper sword civilization dies off because they don't have the technology. That's kind of a sort of a stupid, illustration because it's a very simple jump from copper to bronze. Easy for the the society to make that transition. Alright. So the premise is that on contact with a technical superior technically superior civilization, the inferior civilization suffers internal degradation to the point that they are either absorbed or they're made extinct.

And in the process of absorbing, lots of the individuals are cast off and live miserable lives because they're not able to be integrated into the larger new civilization that's forming. Okay? This is what I've been trying to get across with this idea of the width of the now changing with the as soon as the aliens come here, but that's even further, a bit more obtuse. But anyway, so we are now the technically inferior civilization. We know this because the space aliens are not driving, you know, diesel f 50 or f 150s.

Right? They're coming here in a way that we cannot duplicate theoretically, although there's rumors in in a whole lore about some humans being able to so duplicate. And this is where we get into the the grist of it all. Right? This is our mill and we're gonna get into this grist.

So in World War 2, World War 2 was a weird thing. It was engineered just like World War 1 by banksters that are that were are all Jewish. Okay? About 1 third of all of the German, military and their intelligence services were Jewish. Almost all the military intelligence within the, Nazi, regime were Jews.

This was odd if you see it from the outside because the whole whole thrust of Nazism, the whole thrust of Hitler's thing was to overturn the degradation that had overcome German society as they had let the Jews in, and they had got to this point where they were having trans, they were having, you know, open, naked man parades in Berlin, all of this kind of stuff. In fact, they made movies about it, Cabaret. Right? It was so so such a degraded society. That that was in the twenties, and that caused Hitler's rise.

Hitler brought a lot of Jews with him, but also it was the Jews that were destroying the German society, and that's why they were being expelled. Okay? Now, here's here's the thing about that. It was a sort of a truism. The Germans had their Jews and we had our Jews, meaning the Brits and the Americans.

Our Jews were in the form of this this organization called the OSS, the Operation of Secret Service of the Secret Service. Right? These were the original spies. It in the United States, it becomes the CIA. In England, it becomes Mi 5 and Mi 6.

Okay? But these guys, the OSS that originally formed there, that was a dual organization. It had Brits and had Americans in it, and only later at the end of the war did they split off, so to speak. Right? That that group was known as the rabbis because it was almost 100% Jewish.

And when the CIA is formed, OSS basically forms the CIA. They wrapped the CIA wrapper around the OSS, and it became this Elohim worship cult organization from the get go. It was 100% devoted to greater Israel, to greater Zionism, all of this stuff, always has been. I have a history with the CIA. I met many CIA officers in the course of my life because of who my father was and what he did for his, work.

Okay? So the first time I met a CIA guy was, like, in 19 57 in Alaska. Okay? Because my dad's work was with the DUI Line, the Defense Early Warning System. CIA had fingers in that.

Okay? All throughout his three tours in Vietnam, he always had CIA guys visiting him. They would visit him when he was back in the States, and the kids, myself and my brother, we were kicked out of the house. You know, we were told murderers are coming to dinner. Here's some money.

Go out and have food. Right? So, and I was quite explicitly told all my life that, a CIA officer is not like a soldier. They may be given a military rank, but they are a murderer because in order to become a CIA officer, you must go and kill on command in a personal assassination, unlike a soldier. Right?

So, anyway, so, so I've had this relationship with them and I knew about the rabbis. Almost, there was one non Jew CIA guy I met over 40 years of association with, that group. And I never really interacted with them. I would just meet them occasionally as they were coming on over to talk to my dad or leaving or whatever. Right?

Anyway, though, so, in the 1947, we shoot down the Roswell UFOs, okay, on the order of the CIA using, tube powered a vacuum tube powered radar, amped up to a huge level. We shoot these things down. We take the technology. This was an arranged operation because they made a deal with Eisenhower, with the Eisenhower administration, to allow us to shoot down space alien vehicles. Now here's where it gets really kinda wonky.

The idea was for a technology transfer. In my opinion, seeing it from this perspective now, looking back at all of that history, we were and here's the rumor. There was the rumor was that or the history of the rumor. The rumor was that Eisenhower was offered by aliens through electronic communication a meeting. In that meeting, he was gonna be meeting the, pleasant aliens.

Right? And they wanted to talk to us about our nuke weapons, and they wanted to exchange for those us they wanted us to give up our nuke weapons throughout all of humanity, and in exchange, exchange, they were gonna give us 0 point technology. And they were gonna give us this 0 point technology over the course of a 100 years and alter our social order. Okay? They were doing that for their own benefit on two levels.

Get rid of the nukes, but also elevate us up to their level so they wouldn't have the karma of destroying our species. Okay. Because we we face a species existential risk now. So the rabbis in the CIA told Eisenhower, don't do it. Don't do it.

Don't do it. Blah blah blah. Don't do it. Don't do it. Okay?

That this is a scam. This is a they're trying to to hoodwink us. They want us to give up all of our weapons, and then they're gonna come in and take over. That was basically the the ploy that they used on the Eisenhower administration. Later, he recognized that that was not true.

Okay. In, like, 50 early fifties before Truman. But okay. In any event though, so, so they tell Eisenhower, well, we got another group, and this was the Grays. Okay?

And the Grays came down, and they said, we're gonna give you an idea and a technology, and you shoot down these these, UFOs and get their technology. And we're happy with that. Are you talking about some of the rumors of these meetings, potentially how it happened in, Holloman Air Force Base? Mhmm. That's the one.

Okay. Right. Yeah. The the fake tooth problem for Eisenhower, and they whisk him off. Right?

Right. That's where he signed the deal. It was done by then, though. Okay? They've negotiated the terms.

And the terms were that the aliens were, theoretically, as the terms have leaked out to us, bear in mind, we can't validate any of this stuff. But the terms, theoretically, were that the aliens would be allowed to abduct a certain number of humans every year, make do experiments on them as long as they put them back, that kind of thing. Right? But there was never any accounting or any of that. And all of a sudden, we start getting into huge numbers of humans disappearing.

So there so we were basically sold a bill of goods in that regard. Right? But and here's here's the kicker on this, they did indeed show us how to use these vacuum tube radar guns to shoot down the UFOs. But it wasn't their UFOs we were shooting down. It wasn't that kind of a technology transfer.

We were shooting down the good guys, the pleasant aliens, using the technology that the Grays had given us. Okay? And so then we start raping the, the more pleasant aliens for their technology. Now now you gotta think of these guys as Buddhist monks. Okay?

They're not going to be aggressive even up to the point of their death as individuals because they recognize the power of the of the karmic binding. Alright? And so it's not in their interest to start kicking our ass just because we start shooting them down. Okay. So so this is where we're at now.

The original meeting with the Eisenhower that never happened was to get us to this point now where we theoretically would be zipping along all in our own UFOs. We wouldn't have, you know, lithium battery issues. We wouldn't have, you know, chemtrails or any of this other horseshit going on because we would all be in 0 point technology. Sci fi world, the aliens show up. It's all pleasant, you know, happy, yada yada yada.

Let's sit down and have a picnic. And, hey, let's get some beer. Okay? So I remember the Jetsons episodes when I was a kid. Yeah.

Describing exactly that future. Exactly. That's that's where we should have been by now Yeah. If the rabbis had not decided that they were gonna keep that technology for themselves in order to to control all of humanity. Now, bear in mind, the rabbis are Pharisees.

Okay? They're Babylonians. They're they're not Jews as you would understand it. The the the Elohim worship cult fears the Elohim because they they know the Elohim still is hanging around and factually that they're gonna have to deal with them. And they are afraid of the Elohim coming back and doing what the Elohim do best, which is kill lots of humans.

And this time, they would kill the the Pharisees and the Jews first because of the bad management of their herd, which is all of humanity, because the Elohim think they own us. Now, the other aliens know we've been dealing with the Elohim, so this shit gets complicated. Right? And and so you've got to understand that we're not talking, you know, something like 5 d chess. Right?

This is so complex that there might be 50,000 layers involved, and they're all interrelated in a complexity. It's not complicated. Each aspect of this looked at straight on is simple. But you have to understand that you need to always step back and look at that simple aspect in the greater complexity to see what it's adding and what the rest of that complexity adds to it. Right.

And it and it gets very difficult to think that way because we have not been trained that way because we have not gone through this initiation process, which is involved with that technology. Is the, the rabbi apology. Right? Right. Is the rabbi Bigley mistake, also, in your opinion, having to do with, a breaking of that deal perhaps that was made with respect to how many humans they can take?

No. No. No. No. That that deal was never it was never a solid deal.

There was never any expectation of, you know, either side playing fair. None of that. Right? They still are cooperating with the Grays because they basically have no choice and it's in their interest. But, no, there's no there's no repercussion for it that way.

There there indeed is a repercussion for all of humanity if we allow this situation to keep going because then we have explicitly accepted the karma that the rabbis wanna put us into, And we need not. Okay? So, this is why we're in this hugely complex situation at the moment. Right? Right.

Can I can I try to drill down here? There's a recurring question in a live chat here too with respect to the drones we're seeing in New Jersey. So they're focused on that right now, not necessarily all the military bases, but people are asking whether or not our opinion is that they're either positive or negative towards us right now or if they are part also of this alien invasion blue being thing that the government might might try to pull off also to regain some of the control here. Where do you place what's happening in New Jersey right now? Is it a threat to humans or not?

Let's start there. No. It's definitely a threat. There's very definitely a risk, even if it's only a risk of accident. Okay?

Even if they had no ill will to us, they could have a technical hitch and you got a, you know, something the size of a of a Jeep, fallen in through your roof. Right? Right. Right. So so, no, they're they're a threat.

There's no question about that. And, they are an explicit threat or an implicit threat just because of our understanding. So people understand now that drones can carry bombs. Right? So so we implicitly will look at them as threatening, just because of the greater contention that's out there in the world now.

So I'm not sanguine about these things at all. Okay? If you look at chat and you put it in dozens of different ways, it keeps coming to the conclusion that, basically, it's a government subcontractor that is the most likely Corporate. Culprit. And that that the way that these things are behaving, they may just be it may be a training exercise.

So here's the thing. In China, you'll see those big Could it be also kind of like, a strong negotiation tactic? They're not happy with the deal, and they wanna renegotiate. That's another that's another aspect of this. Okay.

So alright. So let's look at it this way. Let's say that the drones are under control of the government. Alright? Okay.

Then there's also the chance that they're not under the control of the government, but that they were still made by corporations. But let's look at the first one there. If they're under the control of the government, why would they be doing what they are doing? Well, a plausible reason would be a training exercise because we don't have but, okay, I was gonna say we don't have areas where you could effectively do this, but there are sort of. Okay.

So, we could have training exercises for large drone squads out in the West, and probably no one would see them in in any number of places. Maybe 2 or 300 large areas on the in the in the West here, deserts and up in the hills and stuff. And you'd never know that they were doing this. Right? Right.

And in fact, we have reports of that in the mountains around us of drone training exercises going on and hikers encountering them. Letting letting that aside, there at some point in your training, you would have to go against a real enemy to see if your tactics actually work. And if the tactic was to go and snoop out a military base, well, you'd have to go to a real military base and have your drones do it. And so you do it to your one of your own military bases that you wouldn't set off of a war. Right?

And you see this activity going on in China all the time. They will set literally thousands of drones, against their own military bases. Sometimes, we get videos of that, and they're doing it to train the military base how to contend with it, but also to train all the drone operators. So, you know, so it makes sense on both sides. That's if our government controls it.

Now, if the government does not control it, if it's the people that, you know, Leidos, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, any of those kind of guys, If it's a corporate controlled breakaway kind of thing, then, yes, you may be quite right. Maybe this is an underhanded kind of, pressure on a negotiation to tell the congress critters, don't investigate this shit anymore. Mhmm. Okay. So, you know, look what we can do to you without even without even hassle.

We got, you know, something the size of a Volkswagen bug up there that's been flying around for 7 days without having to refuel or anything. You know? Give us some credit. Right? Right.

Right. Right. Now going back to scenario 1 where these are controlled by the government, is it possible also that this is some type of resiopt trial balloon of sorts? Oh, sure. Oh, sure.

It could be part of any number of scenarios. You know? It could be Yeah. Okay. So if they do a blue beam, none of us are gonna buy the illusion of a hologram in the sky anymore.

Right? You're just not gonna accept it. And video shows that these things are are fake anyway, because you can video through it to whatever is on the other side. Right? So we're not gonna buy that.

So they will have to have some, some real shit up in the sky to cause real problems in order for any of us to buy that we're being attacked by a bunch of bad aliens. Right? Yeah. They they could also want to, gen up a war against Iran. They could want to do any number of things, but it's not Iranian drones.

Alright? It's it's not alright. It's difficult to see how Iran would put the money and personnel and everything to do this, to get a ship across the ocean with all these drones in order to launch them and hover them over us and their big car sized things and do all of that. And if they had that capability, you know, why aren't they just blasting the shit out of Tel Aviv? Why aren't they just eradicated Israel?

Right? So so there's something going on that is at a, I wanna say a more delicate level of power politics here than one would expect of the personalities involved in the Iranian versus the rest of the world kind of deal. Right. When I heard the Iranian thing today, I was like, oh, that's like the Russia Russia Russia stuff. It's the perfect culprit.

It's to do not deal with reality. So to go back on this, Bigley mistake, you also had maybe 7 or 8 months ago starting in your dataset, this idea that we would have this big expulsion of a Jewish community. Is this leading to that? How does that tie into this dataset? They're all of they just keeps coming back up into the data.

Right? And so this is now suggesting, that, it comes out, in general discussion that officialdom, under the control of the rabbis, under the control of this Jewish element, did things that were wrong for all of humanity. And so by by extension, other Jews don't look so good anymore. Right? Even though this is relatively a small number, we're talking probably less than 5 people that made decisions and maybe no more than 500 that helped implement it within the CIA's rabbi contingent.

But as I understand it, the CIA is basically still controlled by the rabbis. You know, they their their head of the rabbis was like a George Bush senior. You know, These kind of people really ugly evil motherfuckers. And so this is still ongoing and these people are still obstructionists on behalf of the Elohim worship cult. And so one thing the Elohim worship cult cannot have happen is they can't have open contact with space aliens because that basically destroys Judaism's claim as a religion, which is one of the things that binds them to the Jews as their protective cloak.

Okay. That's a lot to take in there. I know. Makes sense? Yeah.

If you if you read the Bible and it says, oh, you know, Yahweh the Elohim, well, you're not gonna worship Yahweh if all of a sudden you got Elohim and we're shooting at him, you know, that kind of stuff. Right? It changes everything very quickly. Right. Okay.

So going back to the 39 days to Melee, you were looking at a date on or about December 3rd. And then suddenly, we had this, onslaught of people retweeting you, repopulating, taking your words out of context, talking about this alien invasion. But nonetheless, starting on those days, we start to see a lot more of these sightings. I have quite a few here. These are interesting too.

We could probably do a whole video on these particular drones and how they're interesting and not the ones we're seeing in New Jersey now. But, anyway, more and more signings happen, and it appears to be escalating now, just in the last 48 hours. You brought up quite a few also on your Twitter. I'm gonna bring that up for the audience members. No.

Before I go too far, I asked, Groke, the AI the other day if Cliff would have a role in this space diplomacy. And he said, well, it could be. And then there was all the reason why you were not, but, you know, it was it was mitigated. You guys could go and and ask Ropi the same question and see. I thought that was actually That's funny.

Yeah. I think the part for you was the, alien contention management apart, and I was going to be a attache of internet interplanetary vision or something like that. So I thought that was interesting. Okay. Now let's let's play there's there's 2 things too.

I'm looking for that video. I have it somewhere where, Grier is also talking about this event here that kinda ties into your older web bot data reports about this data dump with UFO files. Now we have his project, his new website that was launched a couple of months ago, but he was also doing the rounds here, in mainstream news saying that he was expecting now another huge data dump, but the this would be coming from basically disgruntled employees who are part of these use apps on acknowledge, special access programs, and that suddenly, that would also change the conversation. Have you plotted that anywhere? That probably won't happen.

Okay? The reason it probably won't happen is because we're gonna get into this period of time where, it's gonna be unwise for a brief period. It's gonna be unwise for people that are in the organizations now to be contacting people outside of the organizations because no one's gonna know what's going on. And it may very well be a situation of where, the organizations are gonna think that they have to go to their actual mission statement, which is, you know, defend humanity from Earth or from the from the space aliens. Right?

Because of the contact. Because contact is so disruptive at all at so many levels, we'll get into this melee period because some people will believe they're and, you know, retain faith in their organizations, but a great many will not. And so that's gonna be just very difficult for the organizations, for all the individuals. So we may actually see the may get to a point here before Trumpsters come in where we get government edicts saying that, you know, you can't report on the drones, or you can't do this, or that kind of thing. We're already getting that out here in the West, where if you make videos about these booms, people will come and talk to you.

They want those videos taken down. We had the booms here for a couple of days out over the water, and I never bothered to record them because it would happen, and then I just go about my business, and then another one would happen, you know, a couple hours later. And and I was uncertain as to what it was. It only lasted for a brief period. But people that I know in Idaho and Montana are saying, you know, it's driving the the wild the the wildlife and the livestock crazy that the cows get all jumpy after the 3rd or 4th one of these things occur.

And it's like an earthquake in the coming from the sky, like a pressure wave. And, other people reporting it are having their videos taken down and their YouTube channels, taken away. So there's some kind of censorship around that subject that's very heavy ended. Speaking of censorship, you just mentioned this. It like, this boggles the mind too.

How did the Department of Government Efficiency can actually do its work as it hits the US UFO file. So are they going to pretend that they're doing government accountability and look at everything else? Because it seems to me that a lot of money is going in this direction, and they're not going to be able to do their job. Or they do their job, and then suddenly they can't out of the bag and wear a brand new worker. The cat's out of the bag anyway.

So they don't they don't worry about that anymore. Okay. So conditions are changing over these couple of months such that by by the time they come in, that's not the world we're living in. Okay? You know, a month from now, that's not the world we're living in today.

The reason that we have these doggies is that the, is the dollar is dying. We can't afford this stuff. We've got exponential interest that we have to pay to Israel on our dollars. And we can't afford to do that anymore, so we've gotta slash everything. So we can't afford these black projects anymore.

And to your point earlier about negotiation tactics, the corporations would be aware of this, that they're about to get cut off, and they would start to become self funding in a serious way. And so that may be something that we're seeing. It seems improbable on a lot of different levels. Okay? But I'm still holding open the possibility that this is the breakaway civilization exerting its influence.

Alright? But it does meet the broad definition, the description that I had coming in from from melee about how we would have UFOs involved and people on the ground and stuff, but also fake UFOs. Right? The the alien reproduction vehicles would participate in this. And that's where we're at now.

These drones may be owned by corporations. Right? They may go out and start yet. They may pop on up and have, you know, battery capacity or zero point energy inside each one of them. Maybe not a good reason to shoot them, but, they may go on up and and fight UFOs here in the near future.

We do not know. Maybe they're contracted to protect these military bases and that's why they're hovering over. If so, you would think that and and I can see a lot of reasons why you wouldn't wanna broadcast this out because, of course, you're telling your enemies and all of that sort of thing. But so, you know, this is the complications that we're getting into. You just mentioned the breakaway civilization.

You had this also maybe 15 years ago in one of your Space Goat parts, datasets about this breakaway civilization, at some point, hitting some type of wall for some reason unknown, having to come back here and then renegotiate some type of either supply line for something. Could that be the time period we're in now? Does that type of Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Very very well could be something like that ongoing. Right? And so, it's complex again. So if you're gonna be a space faring civilization, you need a base. You can't even if you have unlimited energy and you can manufacture stuff, you can't create biologicals.

Okay? This is why biological entities are so valuable in this universe. We cannot be created. Clones don't exist in that in that regard. Right?

So since we can't create biologicals, they have a very great value. And so you're not ever gonna be able to create the things you need to be a 100% self sustaining in space. You need a planetary base. So the breakaway civilization may not have thought things out too well, may have stretched their their, resources too far, or they may have encountered something out there that that is, superior to whatever they've got, and they need to come back and regroup. Any of these things are are possible, but something motivates them, basically around this time to come back and start screwing with things again.

Mhmm. Okay. Going back to, this is the brand new world. By the time Trump, takes office, we talked about the Doge here, We're also seeing the populace reacting to this, and increasingly so. I wanted to play one clip, in case the audience haven't seen it.

You can find it on my Twitter. This is a funny Italian, but he's making a really good point. And I wager, even in the next couple of hours and days weeks here, we're gonna see more and more of this reaction, which is gonna make the government or officials' job even more difficult moving forward in this. So let's listen to what this guy has to say. I'm gonna bring it up here a bit.

Have I taught you people anything? We the people. Our founding fathers created this whole thing for the government to be our bitch. And all of these years all of these years later, we have become the government's bitch. See, it's the other way around.

We need to correct that immediately. For instance, these fucking drones. Finally, the story is breaking every 5 minutes because our federal government had a hearing, and they can't tell us what the fuck they are. They say there's nothing to worry about, but they're not telling us what they are. I'm talking fucking 1965 Buick sized drones flying over our houses and our businesses, and they're not telling us what they are.

Remember, people. I taught you. Okay? We gotta switch it around. The government is our bitch.

So get on top of your local politicians, your buddies that you put in office. Even though they're your buddies that you voted for council or mayor, they still are your bitch. They work for you. You get that? They need to find out from the fucking federal I know there's hearings every day, especially in Jersey.

The governor's no way to fucking be seen. Get on top. Ring the doorbell at 12 o'clock at night if you know where your buddy, the councilman or Yeah. I'll leave it there, but you get the point. Okay.

So we're gonna get into it just a moment here the email you sent me with the latest data from last night. And, guys, again, you can go to beyondmystic.net/notes to see the full list there of the data that we're going to be talking about. But speak to this right now here too, this change in perception and this, perhaps the beginnings of the makeaway civilization where people realize that actually it's the other way around. We have the power here. There's more of that apparently Yeah.

Going really rapidly. Explain that. What's going on? Yeah. And we'd always had the idea of, the whole melee period being started by farmers out with shotguns.

Right? That where a UFO lands in the back, their cows are startled, and they just say, the hell with this, and they start shooting at it. You know? Because people are xenophobic, and they're scared. And because we've not had this 100 years to acclimatize ourselves to this particular period of time because of what the rabbis did in busting that one deal and hooking us up with the grays and getting us on the bad side of things.

Right? Now, the other guys know this. The, you know, the more mellow aliens, they know the pressures we're under. I can see some of the things they're doing that suggest that they're aware of this and they're treating us in a very special way in order to try and overcome the problems that we're we're suffering under. Because they don't wanna bind their karma to ours and have us take them down with them.

Right? Or take them down with us. So, but all of our data, it always had that, it was going to be a melee in the sense that at the time that we had the shooting and the strange stuff in the skies, we would have people being lying on the top of their car, shooting straight up at these things, or sitting on their rooftop shooting at them, you know, of course, causing all kinds of collateral damage. Right? I mean, you know, shooting birds or clipping, you know, power lines or these sorts of things because of the, actually, because of the desperate nature of the fear that these people have.

And I can't blame them at all. I don't want a Buick floating over my house. No. So, you know, so that's where we are at the moment. People are gonna start, you know, doing that.

They're gonna start, responding. Right. It's probably why the government here in Canada is trying to do the gun grab thing again. They're afraid to get into the Goofy bastards. Yeah.

Yeah. Jason Forrest in the chat. He says, Clifford, the tough son of a bitch. It's, Jason Forrest's birthday coming up, guys, on December 22nd, I believe it is. So wish him a happy birthday there.

Cliff, we're seeing these escalate escalations now. This was in the plane just recently also. This whole fleet of UFOs apparently, there. Now it appears that it's escalating. You kind of told us so in the last dataset.

And now if we go into the notes that we've prepared for the show here today, again, guys, go to beyond misty.netforward/notes. Describe to the honest members here what you're seeing, how you just did this latest data run, and why perhaps, things might be a little bit iffy here moving in as close as here maybe the end of December, Cliff. I've gotten, 5 DAT tapes, multiple terabytes of data, and I've been trying to clean it up against a degrading, drive controller. So I've been having hardware problems. I've been rushing to get the data cleaned up before the drive finally crapped out on me.

So it did. The drive controller is shot, and I've got to deal with that aspect of the of the issue here. But I've been processing it processing it with AI to get through this last little bit. Maybe I've got maybe an eighth of the data left, and I'd had a quarter when I started the other night. And in getting in there was some it was really weird, because I kept running into this 33.1, 33.1.

And usually you don't get numbers in the data sets that are meaningful in that way. Right? So, but I kept going, and then I realized, oh, it's a label. It's a label that's gonna be hitting in the news. And it's the ICD 10 code, which is the way that the medical people code your illnesses to get compensated by government payment programs.

Right? When you come into the ER, they gotta put down all these codes in order to get money from the government for your visit. Right. And so so, basically, the data is saying that, you know, a huge amount of the population is gonna have massive depression. That's what got me back onto the idea of the rabbis in this busted deal.

Okay? Because it looks like we're gonna go through what the Native Americans in the US went through. Drug, alcoholism, family bust up, social disruption at massive level to the point that it actually affects the infrastructure in various different areas, okay, as people just get too depressed to go and work. Now, a lot of people don't go to work anyway, but I'm talking about people that do work in things that are necessary. You know, driving buses or, you know, running a power plant, this kind of thing.

Right? Hold on. Hold on. Hold up. Is this all the people realizing there's no Necessera, Gessera QFS to save them, or or is this relating to UFOs?

This relating to UFOs. This is the impact of the, of encountering space aliens with a vastly superior technology. Okay? With a infinitely superior from our viewpoint at this stage, infinitely superior social order, culture, and technology, alright, that we can't understand or duplicate, which it should not have happened. Okay?

Because we did invent it on our own. Alright? We can duplicate it, and we can get there on our own. We're not inferior. But this is what happens when that that presentation comes to you meeting that superior civilization.

Right? You just suddenly turn, especially since humans have this, so many of us have this internal voice that says, oh, you're inferior and weak and all this kind of shit. Right? All the people that watch TV have this constant criticism that's going on in their heads and stuff. And so this is gonna be amplified by running into these far superior beings that apparently are gonna look somewhat hominid, and so that makes it even worse.

You know, it'd be it'd be one thing to have, you know, you know, an intelligent dolphin looking being that had superior technology. You're not gonna compare yourself quite the same as if you were comparing it to a hominid. Right? Right. So a lot of people are gonna think of themselves very, very negatively in of our social order, and they're gonna think about all of the terrible things that have happened in their life and all of that, and put it up against the space aliens and so on, and they're gonna get even further depressed.

So let me read this. So the data has maybe 25 to 50% of people in some areas be being basically freaked out, nonfunctioning, major depression due to events relating to UFOs. Lots of people drugging themselves, up on whatever is at hand. Many will OD and die. Some really public suicides as well.

A lot of people are talking about these suicide weekends. Is that tied into also one of the old web data reports? Yep. Yep. Looks like it.

Yep. Okay. Going to be really bad. Many flee cities, generalized breakdowns of functions and services and government. People flee to Canada.

Okay. We don't want Americans in Canada. But so is that part of the diaspora also perhaps of an older data set? Exact exactly. Exactly.

See? So that we were looking at it from a different, viewpoint back then and not seeing the conditions under which it's going to emerge, which we're now in, and thus, they are visible to us. Right? Wow. So so also bear in mind what's gonna happen here.

Those people that have come from far more primitive conditions being flown in here from Africa to be the illegal migrants or, you know, brought in from Haiti, these kind of things. These people have an ethos and a mythos that is not, of the general population in the America. So these people will react to the space aliens in an entirely different manner. And, many of them will flee thinking that the country is being invaded by demons. Many of them will react badly, fighting the demons because they're quite convinced because of their religious heritage that they have every right to do so.

Right? So in Haiti, there's a particular space alien looking, myth that is famous for chopping people up and cooking them in soup. So, you know, if they saw one of those guys, they're gonna think that this is that fellow, and they're gonna react very badly. So this is the same in Africa all over the place. That's gonna That reminds me of the, was it what was it called?

El chupacabra? It doesn't Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Right.

So we're gonna have we're gonna have those kind of, mythos, come up in everybody's minds, and they're in a strange civilization anyway. They don't understand it. They're not welcome. Blah blah blah. They're under a great deal of stress.

So we're all under a great deal of stress, so it's gonna be just quite strange. Right? So yeah. This is what you're getting at here. UFOs in North America and Europe start participating in the migrant mess.

The data has this population of migrants seriously freaked out and desperate to get away. Is this why Trudeau is not really doing anything right now to do No. I think he's just done too much coke. That's a whole other show, guys. Right.

But, yeah, but tie that in. So I understand the point the the cultural aspect of it too, but is there another aspect? Because you had this tied in for a number of months where you had the invaders, and you weren't sure in that label if that was the alien or if there was the alien immigrants invading also. Do you make that distinction now? What do you see?

Nope. Because we're it's gonna be a melee. We're not gonna be able to make distinctions on this because everybody's gonna be freaking out on their own, for whatever prompts in their particular, cultural upbringing, are getting triggered. Right? So we're all gonna be freaking out for a bunch of different reasons.

Right? And so you'll have people in New Jersey that are convinced that that they're the, the site of the next Pearl Harbor. That these are Iranian drones, and they're about to get bombed. You'll have other people in New Jersey that are quite convinced it's the UFOs, and that they're gonna go out there and try and keep everybody else from shooting at them because they're our space brothers. You know, all different kinds of reactions are gonna cause problems on the ground.

And so people on the ground may be fighting because one guy thinks you're shooting at their space brothers, and they don't want you to do that. Right? Another guy is convinced that, you know, this is, jihad from above, That kind of thing. So it's gonna get just squirrelly. Right.

It was like in that movie, Leave the World Behind. Different pockets of the different cities were thinking, oh, this guy needs to be inviting us or these people are inviting us or this or this. Like, nobody knows. The comms are down and all that, which speaks to the degradation of the social, structure. You're talk you're talking about this here in the last part.

Power structure is going to die through this process. No open banks, that sort of thing. Fed dies off, all kinds of effects. Okay. So now timing, end of December, we should see to start this manifest.

So was this part of the It's gonna be slow. Okay? So because a lot of these events are gonna build on each other. And so some of them will hit a pocket where suddenly, you know, get one area in New Jersey where they start shooting at the drones. There will be responses throughout New Jersey, New York, and Washington DC.

You'll get the politicians commenting on it and so on and so on. And then it will also be morphing while they're making these comments on it. So it it it will be changing based on what's happening in real time as we go forward. We can just project where it's gonna start, and thereafter, how it's going to go is anybody's, guess in the moment. Right.

Now you did ask the assistance of AI to actually look into this question here of how humanity is going to be transformed, presumably with some of the hints of what we're seeing in the data. Can you maybe recap some of those major, maybe 3 or 4 points of how humanity is going to change here because of this contention, Cliff? Well, it's because of the contact. The contention is something that won't be seen by lots of people initially. So it's just the contact.

And so we're gonna have, you know, it's it's somewhat predictable. That's why I used AI to do it, just to run through it because AI is not creative. AI only put up stuff based on the prompt I had for it to examine. But fundamentally, it's just gonna be an issue of religious underpinnings are gonna fall away. A lot of religion is going to die.

In the process of the religions busting up because of the space alien contact, many people will act badly for various different reasons because of the lack of the religion, because of, you know, old, perceived ills, all different kinds of things, and further contribute to the melee there. There will be new religions that will form. Okay? And there will also be new science and new philosophical approaches that won't be religious. Unfortunately, we're gonna have to go through that new religion phase.

Now in the Bhagavad Gita, one of the main characters there who is Krishna, who later becomes Christ in the Bible, makes an observation. And he said basically that there's four kinds of humans. And that that and that the herd of humanity, which we also find illustrated in different words in, thinking and destiny. But, 1 quarter of humanity can be expected to have really nasty freak outs because they are new to being humans. They haven't had that many reincarnations.

Okay? And so those people, by as a rule, always new humans, you have to go through this period of time where they become fascinated by ritual. Alright? And so this is the part of all religions where you go and you, you know, you say the chant, or you light the candles, or you know, whatever the religious observation is, the act, the ritual, Right? So you are observant in that sense.

Those people are gonna get hit real hard. Okay? They will still, in my opinion, they'll still resort back to their rituals, and will give them comfort. And in that sense, they will come through, right? But I think that the rituals will be refocused onto the space aliens as they exist now, as opposed to our illusions and our myth of the space aliens that are the gods.

And so there'll be that transformation of that group. There's another group that's basically intellectually self aware, which you might think of in a sense as atheist or from which atheism might might come. These people are gonna have a really hard time of things because of the cultural aspects of it, not because of the religious aspects. Then the 2 other parts of humanity will suffer to to some degree as their religious underpinning falls away, but they will gravitate towards the understanding of the our material universe that the space aliens have. Some of those people will will make it into a religion, but others will take it as a science and a philosophy.

And okay. So part of people watching the show now are thinking, holy shit. This seems to be way more up my priorities list to be looking at this than perhaps the financial, changeover Yeah. Or the the the Department of Government Efficiency. This is changes everything.

But at the same time, it does, offer the opportunity to have humans move into this sci fi world. So is there a silver lining in all this? What did you see, and how far do you think this period of time might be before we get from here to that silver lining? Any hints in your data about the timing of that? No hints on timing.

There may okay. So when you process through all of the data and you develop the 3rd layer of cross links, which are the most rich in terms of detail and have some level of numerics, you have to then go and run all of those cross links back through on their own to extract timing. And so I don't have that capacity at this point. So I haven't done that. Okay?

So I can't can't say how long this period will go on. But we we do have at least the next 2 years of a great deal of social, cultural upheaval. And as a result of this question alone, and to a certain extent, it appears in the data in any event, it appears to drive all the other issues we face into, and also ran. You know, something that we think about, we work on, but it's like a so in that sense, that silver lining start showing up right away. Okay?

Because in my viewpoint, the ultimate barrier we face is a lack of intellectual honesty with ourselves. Okay? And so because of the appearance of the space aliens and because we're gonna have to talk about all of this stuff, we're gonna have to examine ourselves and our own xenophobia and our own history and all of our problems with each other over our history, etcetera. So that brings out open talk, and that silver lining starts probably February of next year. Right?

Because there's a as the degradation is going on and we're getting into all of this kind of stuff, there's a growth period that comes in. And this was the discontinuity. Because as we're going through all of this disruption and people are thoroughly depressed and destroyed and so on, other people are starting to build out a new, more positive version of the future and it based a lot of it on technologies. And then also, here's the thing. Okay, so I'm not a hopium guy.

You know, all of humanity for all of our lives, our dominating aspect of our lives, in my opinion, is suffering. Okay? I find that suffering is is, noted in that way in all kinds of literature, absent the West's religious literature. So if you go to Buddhism, Hinduism, Shintoism, any of it, it acknowledges the suffering that we go into. Now, here's the thing.

The appearance of the space aliens is gonna cause a huge giant wave of hopium. So against the 25 or 50 percent that is going into depression because, oh my God, we're poor primitive, you know, dirt scraping apes, right? As opposed to these shining space aliens, okay? And so that's basically a nasty encapsulation of their viewpoint. But against that 25 to 50%, there's gonna be an opposite number that will say, holy shit.

What can these people tell us? Do they have a solution to the COVID 19 injections? Right. Okay. They may.

Who the hell knows? I can't say that. It's not the data. No fucking med meds or any of that kind of shit's coming out of any of this stuff. There's no savior.

There's no solution to anybody in my view of this. But there is indeed going to be that effect within humanity, that there will be this positive hopium kind of thing that comes on up. How much of that hopium is manifest? How much of it actually matures? I don't know.

I can't say. But there is that countervailing, you know, so so we're on an even keel. Half of us are depressed, but half of us have a countervailing amount of opium as a result of this because the future beckons to us. And there the people that that will affect, are gonna be on two levels of extremes. Okay?

The people that will see the future open are all of these younger kids. Right? And, also, correspondingly, all of the people that have the most, investment in the need for the hopium, all of those people that are old and firm and have been injured. Okay? So it's gonna be this weird kind of a collective, that will be pushing on the government in a way that the government does not anticipate now.

Okay. So the they're gonna cause these kids. And, you know, I'm 71, so, you know, anybody younger than 65 as a kid, but but I'm talking about real kids, you know, 5 years old, 7, 10, 11, right? That kind of thing. Those those ones are gonna be something of an irritant to government in this whole thing.

Not only because they will have unrealistic expectations, but because they will have realistic expectations as well. The government wants to promote. And so, we're gonna see a morphing of the way that we think about government. The organization that the Trumpsters are designing now won't last a year. Okay?

It will not be the same by the time we reach this point next year, just as I'm suspecting that this will be the last Christmas. It'll either be this year, or or next year will be the last Christmas because Christmas will go away as a result of the space alien contact as a lot of the religious stuff dissolves. Okay? I expect big problems in the sense of I expect that Judaism will will die. Everything based on the Talmud will just go away.

The Torah will be shown to be fiction. The Bible will shown be shown to be largely fictional, all of the Old Testament, that sort of thing. Islam is gonna have a hard, hard, hard, problem, and there's gonna be all kinds of people acting out in the current understanding of Islam now, which is filled with jihadis and extreme fundamentalists, not that anybody can blame them because they've been put into that position by the actions of the Jews buying Palestine, all of that kind of stuff, all the world wars, the fact that we always concentrate all of these hatreds and stuff in the Middle East, it is understandable that that Islam is as it is now. Much of it's gonna go away in terms of the structure of Islam, that relates to, Gabriel and the discourse that led to the Quran. In my opinion, there will be a resurgence in both Islam and in Christianity.

Islam will take for its roots Sufism, okay, that existed before the Quran. And, that will be the basis from which there will be this new resurgent Islam. And we will have a similar mysticism, a Christian mystery school kind of thing that will take and propel Christianity. And these will be competing and will probably fold in a lot of the ontological stuff that will come out of the aliens. But they'll be uniquely human.

Okay? There'll be uniquely human, approaches to this particular situation that we find ourselves in at the moment. And then there will be humans that will develop an ontological, a religion around the ontology. The space aliens don't think of it as a religion, and they think they're gonna think of religion as an aberration of a mental processes. Right?

Right. So they but they will be quite happy to share science and and philosophy with us. Now, humans on the planet, for the most part, forgive me if I'm generalizing, have a world view that is predicated by what they've been told from infancy to where they are today. Even though many of the things we've been told, we can see evidence to the contrary, it still kind of locks us into this shared reality. It feels to me that this event, or these series events that are happening now could have a potential beneficial event of maybe breaking that spell, so to speak, to kind of force humans to reevaluate their reality.

I'm cautiously optimistic about that, but I think about that 25% who are going to have a lot of issues with that, who are maybe the the younger, humans here in their reincarnation process. But what would you say like for people who dude, in the last year of me interviewing you and some other stuff here, like, I've had a lot of trouble on Rumble and also on YouTube with people just not being able to cope with the rate of change of our worldview. And now you're saying, oh my god. Is it's about to go ballistic. Is there any advice for people here on how to maybe address some of that rigid thinking or that preprogramming, and maybe the, the staunch attachment to those planks as we're moving into the woo?

There's no more planks. Like, how how does I'm trying to be of service here for people who are having issue with the creative change. What can we say to them? Okay. So, I like examining things in reality and deriving from them.

Okay? And so some things in reality, I have experience with. One of the things I have a great deal of experience with is people being, having their their reality torn from them deliberately. Absolutely removed from their mind in order that a new reality might be planted in there. Okay?

My father was a master at this. Okay? He he was, taking inductees and volunteers and turning them into soldiers. In order to do that, he had to put them in in the care of the in the gentle tender care of these, master sergeants. And they were there to strip away everything that you thought was factual and true.

Alright? They taught you how to brush your teeth. They taught you how to lift the lid on the toilet. You had to start all over again because you were being indoctrinated into a radically new world that you were expected to function in at a high degree under extreme circumstances. So they can't fuck around with it.

We're in that now. Okay? So we're like in basic training for sci fi world. One way you have to under or one way you have to appreciate that training is that there is a necessity that all that stuff get out of your head. Okay?

So one way to do it is the meditation. Another way to do it is to take vast quantities of psychedelic drugs, but you don't have the time. Okay? You're not gonna have enough time to take the drugs and recover, to get your mind in a flexible position for this. So it's gonna be very difficult, and it will lead to lots and lots of suicides.

And it will also lead to everybody, no matter how much they think their mind is sound now, experiencing, effects, mental effects from this over these next couple of years. As all of a sudden it dawns on you, oh, my God, you know, that this reality is a 100% different than it was 2 weeks ago. That kind of thing. It will be a weird kind of a thing. This is what I've been trying to get across to people with this idea of the width of the ever present now.

Right. Okay. So let me give you an idea here that is, I think, a decent illustration. I'm a big martial artist. I'm very fast for somebody who's 71.

If I had, at any time in my career, come across and and been in a, setting with Bruce Lee, he would widen my experience of the ever present now because he was so fast in reacting. Alright? And so it's not the reaction after. You have to understand that he was moving before his mind knew he needed to react because he was responding to that ever present now and the event stream that's coming in. So our sense of time will change at a personal level.

So if I were there with Bruce Lee doing martial arts, and I've I've gotten to really good martial artists and been in these circumstances where, the process I'm gonna describe would be would happen with me with Bruce Lee, but it's happened in a lower extent in other martial arts settings. And that's when you go and you do training with them. At the end of the day, you leave, and all of a sudden you're you're, you know and usually, it would be in the summer for these kind of conferences and things. So you go out the door, the sun's setting and all of that. And all of a sudden, your time frame collapses back to your normal time understanding.

Right? However fast you move, however fast your mind moves. So if you think of yourself going into an exam, going into a test where your mind really has to work and work and work and very fast and all of this, and then that afterwards, that's 2 separate frame references for the ever present now. One of which has you a little stressed. Okay?

That's what we're gonna be going through. And no matter how much you relax yourself and so on, over these next couple of years, you will encounter these stress bubbles relative to your understanding of time. Now it's my supposition and my conclusion that when the aliens show up here, they will have an entirely different referential understanding of the ever present now, and we will have to blend these. So when you're in the presence of the space aliens, you will have to they will have to accommodate your sense of time and you will have to accommodate theirs, just that dialogue may go on. You've seen this in reality where you'll watch 2 or 3 people in a video interview.

I saw this just the other day, which is why it's fresh on my mind. And they're talking over each other because they can't coordinate their own now sense with the other people's now sense because one guy's too fast, another guy's too slow, so that all the responses are always talked over. And it's gonna be like that. Okay? And we're gonna have to work out mechanisms and stuff for interacting and dealing with it at that level.

And then there's much, much more subtle effects that are also much more profound on individual humans. So I expect that there will be humans who will be fundamentally changed in their own humanness, okay, their own mental the thing that makes them human, not their soul, but the the consciousness that is makes them human, I think that will be changed by long contact with the space aliens. They will come across as different to us when they come back, but they're not gonna be space alien like, they will just be different. And so so we're actually seeing humans we'll we'll see humans that will be transformed by this. It's going to be exciting to see, and, I hope that we can be of service and do our part here, guys, on Beyond Mystic.

I had one question from, Joe in the live chat. It's from an earlier segment. Let me bring it up quickly here, Cliff, and then we could talk we can kinda close-up the show here. I have 2 more questions for you. The clip, Jason Fore was asking about this old dataset where you had people fighting in the field suddenly look up and stop fighting.

Where are we in that? Is that tie in here? Right now. Okay. So it'll Lebanon or any of these hot spots, you know, in Georgia, Korea, wherever, they'll just see the UFOs and say, fuck.

No. I gotta get out of here. Right? Right. That kind of shit is gonna be going on.

And let me tell you, I'm gonna be freaked out when these drones or whatever the hell, they start flying around here. Right? Right. I was thinking about it the other night when I saw your report. I was outside in the hot tub.

I'm like, maybe I should bring my shotgun now. I haven't seen much in Ottawa. But, guys, if you go look on Twitter, there's more and more, sightings here by the day, by the hour. It definitely seems to be escalating. And the fact that Cliff was, looking at this a month prior to December, and then hit hitting this onslaught of signings in December is very indicative here of perhaps what's to come here for the rest of December.

So make of that what you will hear moving forward, but, it behooves you to pay attention to the whole world around you. And it also behooves you. I think this is the last point where I wanna spend a little bit of time on, Cliff, working on your mind, body, soul complex. You've been working at rebuilding yourself here for a number of years. You died of cancer before, and you were kinda told, nope.

You're not done. You get the fuck back down. Of course. I'm supposed to be retired, but I'm going to be fighting this fight. And you spend a lot of time, with success, rebuilding your body.

So talk about 2 things here. If people go to, the Beyond Mystic, shop page, you'll see there the c 60. This is, from, Kim Shores at Purple Power and also the PureSleep here. Talk about both of these 2 in conjunctions, what it does, and why people might consider this here too moving forward and rebuilding and being in fighting shape for all of these changes that are just in front of us, Cliff. Yeah.

So, humans have this thing called GABA respond receptors in in our bodies. And GABA is a precursor to human growth hormone. If you get those receptors clicked on by subs something, you get a very nice positive attitude. You get, you know, an awareness of the of a positive attitude. You're aware that you have a positive attitude, and you're reacting that way.

You're all upbeat. I engineered the pure sleep. That was the last component I put in it was GABA to trigger those receptors, so that I would have this feeling of my mind being energized and ready for the, mostly the suffering of that next day. And and it works. Right?

It gives that's one of the big parts of beating cancer or any of these long systemic diseases is the wear and tear on your key, on your emotional, or your willingness to gin up the emotion to get through that particular bit of toughness. Right? That goes back to your key, your life force. And I had I was still alive. I still had the key, but it took me a long time to get my mind, retuned to be able to to start effectively using my key force.

And once I did that, so it took me about 8 months to come up with the formula. Once it started working, it was like, okay. And then I put in the GABA, and it was like, oh, it took took another big jump. And then I knew I was on the path to recovery. And then I just started folding in everything that needed to be done.

Now, in so far as cancer, we find that okay. So let me back up. Almost all of your bodies have cells in your body have about 2,000 mitochondria. Some of them in your reproductive organs have 2,301,041,050,000 mitochondria. These are little powerhouses inside the cell.

C 60 cleans those power plants out and puts in new material form, energizes them. It it may be fair to say that c 60 had a great deal to do with my cancer not metastasizing? Because I started taking C 60 in 2011, maybe. Whenever I got hooked up with Ken, maybe it was earlier than that. I'll have to ask him.

But I took it for a number of years because I needed the energy, because the cancer was continually draining me. Right? Cancer takes away it it screws up your the metabolism. It takes away calcium ions, takes away your ability to maintain your mind and do all of this kind of stuff. I credit c 60 with a for a great deal of my ability to sustain myself during those last 10 years, until I finally died.

And then I got rid of the cancer, and I was able to rebuild. Right? It was they couldn't find it. So a couple of doctors said, well, you probably have cancer because we're seeing some of these cells here in blood and stuff, but we just don't know where the hell it is. But all the others that dismissed it said, you don't have a cancer.

Don't worry about it. And so, of course, they were wrong. Right? I don't have much respect for doctors. Anyway, though, so, the c 60, I think, is great for that because it goes right to the mitochondria and energizes the power part of the cell.

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Well, hey. If you're gonna ask the question, we're gonna be here for another half hour. Just last words before you go. No. No.

What what was it? I'll try and be brief. Well, my question is, as we stand at the precipice of a new beginning for humanity, it feels to me that in order to get through that new beginning, there is inevitably going to be a lot of loss. Whether those are the loss of the things that, or people that we care for, whether that's the loss of the reality we think, we held dear to our hearts, there's going to be a lot of loss there. And and coping with that loss is perhaps one of the biggest challenge that I've seen over the last 4 years here of, COVID.

People are starting to deal with that, and they're recognizing that that is part of the structure here moving forward. I think I would like to ask you advice on how to deal with that loss, whether that has to do with, It's real it's real easy, actually. Okay? We only live in the now. Every time you feel sad or depressed or any of that kind of stuff, you're not living in the now.

You're living in the past. The past is an illusion that is created for you by memory. So those things don't exist anymore. So those things that you think you have lost and you're feeling sad about, you're feeling sad about them because you're looking in the past and you're overvaluing what you've lost relative to being here in the now. And so it's really easy to stop being depressed about stuff, but, conceptually, but somewhat difficult to do until you get in the groove of it.

And you just keep forcing yourself back to the now. And so you concentrate on your breath, you know. Oh, I'm getting depressed. Put my attention back to my breath, you know, or anything that is in the now. And so if you, you can go and read about it in the form of, you know, a Zen meditation or Vipassana, those are the 2 very worthwhile forms that work.

But basically, all you need to do is anything that will get you back into the now. And so, it's impossible to interact with a dog thinking about the past. So if you got a dog and you're feeling depressed, go and interact with them. That brings you back to the now. Because they don't live in the past, they live in just this instant.

And so that's what you need to do is to get your mind back to the here and now. I love that. That's perfect. And then anything to the show, and I remember reading this book at 20, 30 years ago, and it hit me how powerful it was. And then you kind of forget because you can get a little back into the complacency, your daily job, and all of the grind and all that stuff here too.

But great words of wisdom there, Cliff. I really appreciate it. Thank you so much for your time here at Cliff today. And, guys, if you wanna look at this book, Eckhart Tolle, I think it was, The Power of Now is also, very interesting for you guys. In the meantime, of course, you can support, and find Cliff's work here on, his Substack as well as on his Twitter.

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