Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Chris12 » Wed May 08, 2013 1:47 pm

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/05/ad ... 88468.html

Apparently a radio host and former soldier Adam Kokesh is planning to hold an armed march through Whasington DC to ''put the government on notice that we will not be intimidated & cower in submission to tyranny"(Ugh) and yes, with armed he also means loaded.

Kokesh has stated this will be a peacefull protest despite all of them being armed and that any physical resistance to the march will result in them all leaving.

Kokesh has not applied for a march permit and said he would not obtain one.

Now....am i the only one a bit disturbed by this? This news disturbs me and its not even my capitol. having a few thousand protesting people with guns marching through the seat of a governent would make me very nervous. Armed marches on capitols tended not to go very well in the past and weapons seems a bit contridictionary at a peacefull protest anyway. I'm not neccicarely doubting Kokesh his honesty or intentions or those of the ones applying for this march but it only takes one person to turn this into a dissaster, a grim thought indeed.

Its probably going to turn out fine but...well, this isn't exactly what i'd call positive news.

Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby the other one » Fri May 10, 2013 1:41 pm

Chris12 wrote:


As you might have seen the Occupy-movement, the police was brutally against friendly demonstrants. And also the police arrested many people without any reason. I see it as a logical result to stop the police, from harming friendly demonstrants. This is really a sign to the politicans, that they can't do, what's only good for themselves, or that they can't treat humans like sheep.
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Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Jason Toddman » Fri May 10, 2013 9:27 pm

Adam Kokesh is just a GD flake and a rabble rouser.
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Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby El_Llama » Sat May 11, 2013 2:45 pm

It is worrying...no more worrying that in 12 months' time you will be able to print off your own functioning gun using a 3D printer
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Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby drawscore » Sat May 11, 2013 2:58 pm

Did anyone consider that the 3D printer costs $8000?

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Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby xtc » Sat May 11, 2013 3:21 pm

I am an incredibly rich kid who has a lot of scores to settle. Bring it on!
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Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Chris12 » Sun May 12, 2013 1:13 am

xtc wrote:I am an incredibly rich kid who has a lot of scores to settle. Bring it on!


Likewise :twisted:

Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Antonius97 » Sun May 12, 2013 6:43 am

Napa_LLama wrote:It is worrying...no more worrying that in 12 months' time you will be able to print off your own functioning gun using a 3D printer


Actually, you can do that now. The blueprints for the Liberator were released to the public, but were taken down by the government. Supposedly, though, about 100,000 people have the blueprints, and can still share them.
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Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby mikeybound » Mon May 13, 2013 9:24 am

I understand some laws must be broken for a just cause and peaceful protest, but why the guns? What point are they even making?

Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Chris12 » Tue May 14, 2013 5:28 am

Only reason i can think of is to threaten people into not messing with them....which seems hypocritical for people claiming to show they won't tollerate ''Tyrany''

Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby mikeybound » Tue May 14, 2013 6:14 am

Well the original purposes of private gun ownership is to challenge tyranny. At least here in the states that is.

Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Chris12 » Tue May 14, 2013 6:51 am

mikeybound wrote:Well the original purposes of private gun ownership is to challenge tyranny. At least here in the states that is.


Yes but an armed mob with the potentional to threaten people into accepting their march through gun doesn't give a very any tyrant message

Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby mikeybound » Tue May 14, 2013 6:53 am

I don't know. It's how our revolution started lol. In all seriousness, we should be more evolved by now that guns don't factor into political moments in a nation like this. It's worked before.

Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Jason Toddman » Tue May 14, 2013 7:42 am

I don't like the idea. It sets a bad precedent. It only takes one idiot going off half-cocked (so to speak) to turn the whole incident into (another) tragedy. They claim they won't insist if they encounter resistance from the cops, but if things get too heated emotionally anything could happen!
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Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby mikeybound » Tue May 14, 2013 7:45 am

Jason Toddman wrote:I don't like the idea. It sets a bad precedent. It only takes one idiot going off half-cocked (so to speak) to turn the whole incident into (another) tragedy. They claim they won't insist if they encounter resistance from the cops, but if things get too heated emotionally anything could happen!

Again, ever hear of Lexington and Concord?

Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Chris12 » Tue May 14, 2013 9:00 am

The start of a war. Goody lets try that again :big:

Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Jason Toddman » Tue May 14, 2013 9:02 am

mikeybound wrote: Again, ever hear of Lexington and Concord?

Are you seriously comparing today's situation with British Colonialism? :geek: They're not even remotely equivalent.
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Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby mikeybound » Tue May 14, 2013 9:18 am

I'm not comparing it. Just remarking on the similarities. A group of armed angry people pissed at the government, and if even one shot goes off...

Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Jason Toddman » Tue May 14, 2013 9:47 am

mikeybound wrote:I'm not comparing it. Just remarking on the similarities. A group of armed angry people pissed at the government, and if even one shot goes off...

Which is what I said, unless you are somehow implying that this would be a good thing. In hindsight (but certainly NOT at the time) the Revolutionary War was a good thing... for American loyalists. The situation you describe would imo benefit no one... except maybe gun makers (assuming no major backlash against them or the NRA, which seems doubtful to me).
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Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Chris12 » Mon May 27, 2013 2:02 pm

So apparently Kokesh was arrested at a pot rally and when he got out had this to say.

This revolution has been brewing in the hearts and minds of the people for many years, but this independence day, it shall take a new form as the American Revolutionary Army will march on each state capital to demand that the governors of these 50 states immediately initiate the process of an orderly dissolution of the federal government through secession and reclamation of federally held property. Should one whole year from this July 4th while the crimes of this government are allowed to continue, we may have passed the point at which non-violent revolution becomes impossible. The time to sit idly by has passed. To remain neutral is to be complicit, just doing your job is not an excuse, and the line in the sand has been drawn between the people, and the criminals in Washington, D.C. while some timid souls will say that it is too early, the we can solve this problem through democratic means provided by government, that current levels of taxation are reasonable for the services provided, and that the crimes of this government are merely a tolerable nuisance, it may already be too late. While there is risk in drastic action, the greater danger lies in allowing this government to continue unchallenged


Thats....quite chilling :? I take back not doubting his honesty or intentions. Kokesh is clearly just a lunatic throwing a tantrum.

Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby mikeybound » Mon May 27, 2013 2:07 pm

The thing is, every government has done horrible things, and every revolutionary sounds just like that. Weather he's a lunatic depends on wether you think the fight is worth it. I believe we are far from where violence would be necessary. However, our nation defiantly needs a wake up call.

Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Chris12 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:02 am

So its the 4th and I heard nothing. I didn't hear about a massive armed march through Washington DC, not did I hear about a massive revolution taking place. Was it just bluffing of not only a buffoon but a spineless one?

Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Jason Toddman » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:09 am

[quote="Chris12"]So its the 4th and I heard nothing. I didn't hear about a massive armed march through Washington DC, not
Give it time; remember that you're in a later time zone and it's only 1 in the afternoon here on the US East Coast as you and I write this.
But... Nah, I bet nothing's gonna happen! :big:
but I reserve the right to edit this remark if I prove disastrously wrong. :worried:
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Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Jason Toddman » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:40 pm

As far as I know nothing much ever came of this supposed march, but apparently Kokesh is determined to stay in the news one way or another:
http://news.yahoo.com/gun-nut-celebrity ... 00492.html
This guy sounds more and more dangerously sick in the head all the time!
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Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby mikeybound » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:04 pm

I didn't see anything. What was it?

Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Jason Toddman » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:52 pm

mikeybound wrote:I didn't see anything. What was it?

You mean the link I supplied didn't work for you? Odd. Anyway, he's been arrested for possessing hallucinogenic mushrooms - and for having a bunch of guns at home.
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Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby drawscore » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:54 am

If you are of a mind to give a senator or representative - any senator or representative, regardless of party - an apoplectic fit, all you need to do, is say two words: "Constitutional convention."

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Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Jason Toddman » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:47 am

drawscore wrote:If you are of a mind to give a senator or representative - any senator or representative, regardless of party - an apoplectic fit, all you need to do, is say two words: "Constitutional convention."

Drawscore

And what does that have to do with anything here?
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Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby drawscore » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:33 pm

Are we not discussing various aspects of the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution?

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Re: Well, this should end well shouldn't it?

Postby Jason Toddman » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:40 pm

drawscore wrote:Are we not discussing various aspects of the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution?

Drawscore

Yeah? So? why does your trite (and basically meaningless) platitude about the constitution convention have any relevancy here?
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