## Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Chris12 » Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:49 am

well we don't have them here but they are similar to left and right right?
i vote neither as i would vote for a middle party

### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Chase Ricks » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:43 am

Voting for the Tea Party until Obama leaves the White House.
From whence I came and whence I went heaven said I was too evil and sent me to hell. Demons and devils succeeded in breaking my soul.

### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Kyle » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:04 am

I was very close to going 3rd-party during the last presidential election. There's one candidate in an election here I'm going to vote for unless he really does something to turn me off of him between now and the election. Other than that, I don't know what I'll do this time.

### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Chase Ricks » Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:22 pm

> aielen wrote:

> > Shane Bikman wrote:Voting for the Tea Party until Obama leaves the White House.

> Go read up stuff from people like Joseph Stiglitz and Ha-Joon Chang. No country has progressed with actual free trade and market only policy.

I majored in Social Studies in all my school years. So I have no need to.
From whence I came and whence I went heaven said I was too evil and sent me to hell. Demons and devils succeeded in breaking my soul.

### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Chase Ricks » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:53 am

The joke is that I took it only in my school years in Alberta, Canada while I was living there on a student visa.
From whence I came and whence I went heaven said I was too evil and sent me to hell. Demons and devils succeeded in breaking my soul.

### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Jason Toddman » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:44 pm

I live in Maine, which is probably the most moderate state in the US; we actually have a valid moderate party called the Independent party, which I vote for/support at every election. We've had governors who were independents, and at least one candidate running for governor now is an independent. That one will et my vote!
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### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by tomboy » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:00 pm

I am from Canada but since I live so close to the boarder I like to know what is going on, I would say that I know a lot about American politics. If I was able to vote in the USA it would be for the Democrats, I can not support a party that thinks that gay people are scum. Just look at what the republican candidate for governor of New York said on the weekend.

### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by snobound » Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:25 pm

> tomboy wrote:I am from Canada but since I live so close to the boarder I like to know what is going on, I would say that I know a lot about American politics. If I was able to vote in the USA it would be for the Democrats, I can not support a party that thinks that gay people are scum. Just look at what the republican candidate for governor of New York said on the weekend.

My thoughts exactly. Any politician that wants to institutionalize gay-bashing can stop over my place for a chat. They'll be lucky to exit with the ability to further communicate their bigotry.
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### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Scottstud94 » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:05 pm

If I could vote I'd vote for the Chimpanzee Party because they could get more done than this current congress. If I had to Id go Democrat.

### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by snobound » Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:46 pm

> Scottstud94 wrote:If I could vote I'd vote for the Chimpanzee Party because they could get more done than this current congress. If I had to Id go Democrat.

Chimpanzees almost seem like a good alternative at this point.
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### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Kyle » Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:25 pm

Unfortunately I don't think there's going to be anyone on the ballot here that's not Republican or Democrat. I certainly have no idea who else is running, if anyone else even is running, so I only know about those candidates. And I don't like either of them.

### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Jason Toddman » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:10 pm

> Kyle wrote:Unfortunately I don't think there's going to be anyone on the ballot here that's not Republican or Democrat. I certainly have no idea who else is running, if anyone else even is running, so I only know about those candidates. And I don't like either of them.

This is of course one of the greatest weaknesses of the two-party system. Especially lately, the two parties have been getting more and more extreme in their views (and growing furether apart) with no room for moderates, which most everyday people generally tend to be (at least those I know here in Maine). As far as I know though, Maine is the only state that actually has a viable middle-ground third (Independent) party. At least, I never heard of such a party winning the governorship in any other state or sending people to Congress. I think it's time that changed, as I think both Dem and Republican politicians alike are out of touch with everyday people and their concerns.
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### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by snobound » Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:47 pm

> Jason Toddman wrote:

> > Kyle wrote:Unfortunately I don't think there's going to be anyone on the ballot here that's not Republican or Democrat. I certainly have no idea who else is running, if anyone else even is running, so I only know about those candidates. And I don't like either of them.

> This is of course one of the greatest weaknesses of the two-party system. Especially lately, the two parties have been getting more and more extreme in their views (and growing furether apart) with no room for moderates, which most everyday people generally tend to be (at least those I know here in Maine). As far as I know though, Maine is the only state that actually has a viable middle-ground third (Independent) party. At least, I never heard of such a party winning the governorship in any other state or sending people to Congress. I think it's time that changed, as I think both Dem and Republican politicians alike are out of touch with everyday people and their concerns.

Look at VT.... the ONLY (i think) independent congressman- good 'ole Bernie Sanders. He, of course, will always caucus with the Democrats. Progressives do very well here in elections for local and state offices.
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### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Jason Toddman » Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:20 pm

Maine has had independent members of congress I believe; just not currently. Even so, the two Republicans we have in the Senate are a lot more moderate than the majority of Republicans in Congress are, so that's something. I don't know enough about the representatives (both of whom are Democrats) to figure out how moderate they are though; but again at leat we're balanced poliitically in Congress - two Congressmen from each party. Anyway, IMHO Vermont just helps prove that New Englanders retain a more independent tradition than most.
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### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Male shortstied » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:57 pm

I'm also voting TEA party, as well as for constitional Cunservitives, & liberterian's; so if that means Republicans get my vote, then thats who I'm voting for, just like Independent's Demicrats, & anybody else that's running.

### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Jason Toddman » Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:42 am

> Boy shortstied wrote:I'm also voting TEA party, as well as for constitional Cunservitives, & liberterian's; so if that means Republicans get my vote, then thats who I'm voting for, just like Independent's Demicrats, & anybody else that's running.

If you don't mind my asking, what is it about Tea Party candidates that specifically appeals to you?
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### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by snobound » Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:54 am

> Jason Toddman wrote:

> > Boy shortstied wrote:I'm also voting TEA party, as well as for constitional Cunservitives, & liberterian's; so if that means Republicans get my vote, then thats who I'm voting for, just like Independent's Demicrats, & anybody else that's running.

> If you don't mind my asking, what is it about Tea Party candidates that specifically appeals to you?

Jason, I know this question was directed at shortstied, but I just can't help myself.
They help me to purge my system of toxins.... as each and every one makes me want to vomit. They tout populism and libertarianism, yet most support a constitutional amendment that would institutionalize discrimination against ME! Scum, plain and simple- hiding their bigotry behind the thin veil of "family values" - what a joke.
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### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Jason Toddman » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:21 pm

I feel the same way Snobound, which is why I am asking someone who says the support the Tea Partyers *why*? Where's the appeal or a Tugger - even one in what is proibably the most conservative state in the country?
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### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Kyle » Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:55 pm

Actually, I live in a state I'd bet is more conservative than Texas. Tea Party candidates don't really work out well in extremely conservative areas. The Tea Party people are libertarian in views. Very right-wing conservatives aren't libertarian at all. The one major Tea Party candidate I know of here finished dead last in the primary. That should tell you all you need to know about how well they fare in these kinds of areas. They're Republicans (usually), but not necessarily conservative.
I personally do like some of the things the Tea Party candidates say with cutting back worthless spending, lower taxes, less government interference, etc. But I'm pretty libertarian myself. My issue with the Tea Party is it seems like they go and find the nuttiest people they can to run for them. I'm almost beginning to believe it's a requirement to be as wacky as possible to be one of their candidates. The one who did try to run here actually wasn't too bad. I liked her. The rest I know of are nuttier than a Snickers bar. But then again, it could be the media spinning it that way. It really is the same 4 or 5 you always hear about.

### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Tied beauty » Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:54 pm

both of them are the same idiots.

### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Kyle » Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:00 pm

If only 45% of Americans avoided voting on a non-presidential election, we had a pretty good turnout. Even some presidential elections don't get a turnout that high.

### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Jason Toddman » Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:36 am

> Kyle wrote:If only 45% of Americans avoided voting on a non-presidential election, we had a pretty good turnout. Even some presidential elections don't get a turnout that high.

IMHO at least that's because lately in most Presidential elections there is no one worth voting for on either side!
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That song was about revolution rather than elections, but the same principles apparently apply.
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### Re: Who's voting for neither Republican or Democrat?

Post by Chase Ricks » Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:36 am

Jason I will not get upset at you only because enough voters were foolish enough in 2008 without your single vote being the cause of him becoming President. I voted for Mitt Romney up until McCain replaced him with Sarah Palin. That arrogant overbearing governess ruined a lot of carefully gathered votes by employing the race card against Obama in the McCain-Palin vs Obama-Biden race in the polls.
From whence I came and whence I went heaven said I was too evil and sent me to hell. Demons and devils succeeded in breaking my soul.