Complicated Gags

Postby w3sKer96 » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:38 pm

As previous posts have indicated, I'm a gagfanatic! :gag: It's my favorite part of tugs/bondage scenarios. And for a long term buddy, I would often like the gags to get more complex and more stifling to the point that it gets almost ridiculous (I really love when certain aspects get carried away and a lot of the restraints/mufflers are unnecessary but are added anyway.

There were 2 stories that started to make me wonder about homemade, multi-layered, complicated, in-depth gags. These two stories were Youthful Outlaw at http://www.bobwingate.com/bondage_stori ... utlaw.html (this story utilized a gag made out of flour, water, 2 balloons, string, tape, cloth, and bandannas) and Bondwriter's Adventures of Simonat http://tugstories.tieupgames.net/storie ... nindex.htm (which is pretty much nothing but a cheap non-sexual porn using bondage and corresponding dialogue, and involves things like cloth, tape, bandages, cloth stuffing/wadding, and belts in never-ending layers). focus on the birthday party story.

My question to everyone (for ideas, AND I KNOW THAT THESE GAGS NEED CAREFUL SUPERVISION AND WORKING UP TO HAHA) is what ideas do you all have for gags, from the simple to the complex? If you ever gagged someone, or been gagged by someone, in a unique way, do share it with us. Remember, don't be limited by the minimum of getting the job done. Go crazy with it, from reality to fantasy! :twisted:

Materials. What would they be? Cloth (terry, washcloth, dishtowel, rags), tape of any kind, handkerchiefs, ties, zip ties, bandages, underwear, socks. Be creative.

What layers would be involved? Remember, go crazy. Who can come up with a really unique gag?

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby SamanthaBoundx » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:14 am

I dont know how complicated this one is, but its definitely interesting xD

Ive never tried it myself but I once saw a photo on a website of a woman who had been been gagged with a shoe. It worked kind of like a ball gag, it had leather straps attached half way up the hell that buckled behind her head to keep the toe of the shoe in her mouth. I must say that it didnt look massively appealing, but I think it was done for comedy value more than anything else.

Very intersting - especially for someone like me who's just as interested in shoes as they are in TUGs xD

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby snobound » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:45 pm

Wrap a lemon or lime in a bandana/rag/etc. then insert it into your captive's mouth like a ball gag. Tie the ends of the bandana at the back of the head. This is cool because the fruit actually tastes good as you bite down on it, dripping saliva around the outside edges!

I would put a layer of duct tape over the top as well... extra security. :bondage1:
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Re: Complicated Gags

Postby w3sKer96 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:19 pm

Snobound, Nice One. At least the captive has some nourishment and vitamins haha.

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby dreadnaught3200 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:13 am

Perhaps, here we could draw on a little bit of history. Back in the day... Meaning around the seventeenth century... in England they used something called the Scold's Bridle. A woman (It was only ever used on women) who was considered "slanderous" or "annoying" or something like that could be condemned to wear one. It was basically a round metal cage that was placed over her head, with a metal plate that sat in the mouth and depressed the tongue and the whole apparatus would be padlocked into place. Only the key-holder (Generally the husband) could unlock it. Sometimes they'd be forced to wear this for days. I'll leave a link to the wiki page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scold%27s_bridle

Now this thing was barbaric and cruel... But who knows? Perhaps a modern application of this old classic might be possible. A complex gag that can be left on securely while whoever is wearing its hands are free to do their captor's bidding.... Sound like fun?
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Re: Complicated Gags

Postby w3sKer96 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:04 am

Thanks for that history lesson dreadnaught3200. ;)

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby w3sKer96 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:27 am

Why not stuff one almost in my mouth, then put a second one as a protective layer over it, and then layers of tape. ;)

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby PetSilkenvixen » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:21 pm

Not really unique, but complex and effective: Cloth stuffing in the mouth, a thick scarf tied behind the head holding it in, duct tape strips over that (my online Mistress demands at least 3), then a nylon or silk stocking pulled over the head and chin. I believe it's called a "Brian Sands Gag", after the bondage writer to came up with it.
Christyne

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby w3sKer96 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:52 pm

Hey, it's all good PetSilkenvixen. Unique, complex, effective, it all is towards the same goal.

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby w3sKer96 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:55 am

anymore?

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby Rutgerman95 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:56 pm

I don't know if it's realistic (or safe) but I have an idea (never tried it) in volving many large hankies or bandanas.
Here' the recipe:

-Stuff 1 or 2 hankies into the victims mouth (preferably two rolled toghether).
-Tie a hankie as a cleave gag to keep in the stuffing and push it even further.
-Tie a hankie tightly underneath the victim's chin (knot it at the top of the head), so that it will lock the jaw.
-Tie an hankie as OTM gag, securing the chin strap, muffling the sounds and pushing in the stuffing even further.
-Fold a hankie into a square and place the pad over the victims nose and mouth. Make sure to useca very thick padding.
-Tie a hankie OTN/bandit style, securing the pad, and when tied correctly, muffling the last sounds dripping through.
-You can tie an optional bandana/hankie over the victim's head like a pirate bandana or whith the girls hair hanging out to make sure the knot at the top of the head doesn't slip.

If anyone tries this, PLEASE GIVE ME FEEDBACK!

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby w3sKer96 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:24 am

wow, rutgerman95. What a great method. Someone should try this. If you tied up guys and were near me...haha

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby SamanthaBoundx » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:29 am

Rutgerman95 wrote:I don't know if it's realistic (or safe) but I have an idea (never tried it) in volving many large hankies or bandanas.
Here' the recipe:

-Stuff 1 or 2 hankies into the victims mouth (preferably two rolled toghether).
-Tie a hankie as a cleave gag to keep in the stuffing and push it even further.
-Tie a hankie tightly underneath the victim's chin (knot it at the top of the head), so that it will lock the jaw.
-Tie an hankie as OTM gag, securing the chin strap, muffling the sounds and pushing in the stuffing even further.
-Fold a hankie into a square and place the pad over the victims nose and mouth. Make sure to useca very thick padding.
-Tie a hankie OTN/bandit style, securing the pad, and when tied correctly, muffling the last sounds dripping through.
-You can tie an optional bandana/hankie over the victim's head like a pirate bandana or whith the girls hair hanging out to make sure the knot at the top of the head doesn't slip.

If anyone tries this, PLEASE GIVE ME FEEDBACK!


I've tried something similar in the past. The only differences being that we didn't use a chip strap (the aesthetics of a gag are more important to me and my partner than its effectiveness) and we also added a layer of tape between the cleave and the OTM. It was very effective - but I prefer a simple, tight cleave =)

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby w3sKer96 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:40 am

Its interesting the trade offs sometimes made between aesthetics and functionality. the best gag in the world would be a perfect mixture of both. I guess in a way, if the final product is sort of ugly or unpleasing (like ball gags without otm) then it diminishes the pleasure. But sam, it was similar except it was stuff, cleave, tape, otm. that's really good.

and rutgerman, thanks for giving me something to aspire too haha.

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby Rutgerman95 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:58 pm

w3sKer96 wrote:Its interesting the trade offs sometimes made between aesthetics and functionality. the best gag in the world would be a perfect mixture of both. I guess in a way, if the final product is sort of ugly or unpleasing (like ball gags without otm) then it diminishes the pleasure. But sam, it was similar except it was stuff, cleave, tape, otm. that's really good.

and rutgerman, thanks for giving me something to aspire too haha.

You're welcome bud. Although the best thing would be if I can't hear you thank me :gag: XD

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby snobound » Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:58 pm

You can go medieval on your captive, literally, with this gag. It's a medieval torture device call the "pear". Turning the screw causes the pear to spread open. Picture it.... strapped down to a thick wooden chair. Your torturer turns the screw a few full rotations each hour. After a day or two you jaw bone snaps..... OUCH!

Choke-Pear.jpg
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Re: Complicated Gags

Postby xtc » Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:24 pm

If you fancy one of them, at least one firm is selling a very close approximation of the "pear of anguish" as a but plug. :mouthopen: I suspect that our favourite gear-freak, Snobound, is aware of this. :wink: I wonder if he has a photo? :twisted:
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Re: Complicated Gags

Postby snobound » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:22 pm

xtc wrote:If you fancy one of them, at least one firm is selling a very close approximation of the "pear of anguish" as a but plug. :mouthopen: I suspect that our favourite gear-freak, Snobound, is aware of this. :wink: I wonder if he has a photo? :twisted:



A small, run of the mill butt plug..... okay. Even I would draw the line at one that could be widened while helplessly bound. Such a device could have been incorporated into one of the Saw movies. I just saw the last one.... lots of restraint! :bondage:
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Re: Complicated Gags

Postby w3sKer96 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:51 pm

If I were a little more sadistic, I'd probably get into it. but gags with stuff around the house, not things created specifically to be gags, is much more enthralling. But thanks for providing enlightenment :)

and rutgerman, would mmmph be a much more appropriate response? :)

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby Rutgerman95 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:15 pm

Yeah, a soft mmph will do.

Fun fact: I looked up that pear-thingy on wikipedia, and there it said it was first used in Holland.
Guess were I come from? It is a cruel contraption, though.

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby w3sKer96 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:18 pm

that's quite a connection rutgerman95. Maybe it's meant to be haha. And I could mmmph louder too, just so you know haha.

I like the idea of multi-layered gags with hankies. Very good. Even clothing only gags of layers would function in a beautiful way. Maybe a sock or handkerchief (or several) to stuff the mouth. Maybe a small sock as a cover, wrapped with long dress socks (maybe before a tie cleave gag). Then use a whole role of athletic tape and then tied over with a terry cloth rag.

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby w3sKer96 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:31 pm

I guess the reason I like over-stifling and complicated, layered gags is because I'm a fan of the whole 'insult to injury' technique. even if it is clear that the gag is already effective enough, and even if there is no one around to hear you anyway, it's all about making the captive more humiliated and uncomfortable. It's about flaunting your control saying 'I control your voice. You will remain silent as long as I control you, and that could be a while' all the more adding another layer to an already tight and muffling gag.

That's why I like gags that have some effort put into it.

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby snobound » Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:58 pm

w3sKer96 wrote:I guess the reason I like over-stifling and complicated, layered gags is because I'm a fan of the whole 'insult to injury' technique. even if it is clear that the gag is already effective enough, and even if there is no one around to hear you anyway, it's all about making the captive more humiliated and uncomfortable. It's about flaunting your control saying 'I control your voice. You will remain silent as long as I control you, and that could be a while' all the more adding another layer to an already tight and muffling gag.

That's why I like gags that have some effort put into it.



Is it control over a captive's voice that is the primary turn-on for you, or do you also enjoy elements of breath control?

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Re: Complicated Gags

Postby w3sKer96 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:25 pm

Snobound, I think it is the voice control that gets me. Something about just not even having a chance to speak gets me. Especially if there is an incentive like if i manage to say a word of some kind, I get rewards against the controller. Or just having someone around (though not totally nearby) so that the captor has extra incentive to muffle me.

in terms of headgear, not much. I would do muzzles, or liquid gags for drinking water and such. But not into headgear. Although, i do like the idea of covering up my gagged face with something. Be it underwear or a hooded coat or a bandanna mask, it's great fun.

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby w3sKer96 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:09 am

I actually went around walmart wondering which materials could be used as gags. various tight and small underwear like briefs, thongs from women, etc. Scarves, especially the silk ones, pantie hoses, belts, ties, handkerchiefs (the ones without the metal hook that you pull through two rings), the waist bands of those bath robes (clothing), athletic tape, gauze pads, rolled gauze of various inches and widths and medical tape and wide bandages (in first aid aisle), facial and bath sponges (in grooming aisle), zip ties (as a improved cleave), and of course the various rolls of duct/masking/paint/mouting/gaffer tape in various colors and sizes (homecare aisle). Handtowels, dishtowels, terry cloth rags and towels.

Now to think of the layered combinations to make. Any I missed?

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby Rutgerman95 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:50 pm

w3sKer96 wrote:I actually went around walmart wondering which materials could be used as gags. various tight and small underwear like briefs, thongs from women, etc. Scarves, especially the silk ones, pantie hoses, belts, ties, handkerchiefs (the ones without the metal hook that you pull through two rings), the waist bands of those bath robes (clothing), athletic tape, gauze pads, rolled gauze of various inches and widths and medical tape and wide bandages (in first aid aisle), facial and bath sponges (in grooming aisle), zip ties (as a improved cleave), and of course the various rolls of duct/masking/paint/mouting/gaffer tape in various colors and sizes (homecare aisle). Handtowels, dishtowels, terry cloth rags and towels.

Now to think of the layered combinations to make. Any I missed?

It's simple: when you're done binding your victim try to add all things you've brought. Stuffing, wrapping, taping, you name it. Only stop when screams atop of the lungs only sound like soft moans. :gag:

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby w3sKer96 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:59 pm

well, rutgerman95, give me some possibilities with what I've given haha. Or anyone for that matter

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby Rutgerman95 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:46 pm

w3sKer96 wrote:well, rutgerman95, give me some possibilities with what I've given haha. Or anyone for that matter

-Use the panties (as much a you need) to completly stuff the victim's mouth (make her cheeks bulge).
-Tie a pantie hose as a cleave gag, wrapping it around multiple times.
-Tie a scarf as a knotted cleave (use a really big knot).
-Use some strong tape (that thick black stuff should do) and wrap it around her mouth many times.
-Make her push her jaws togheter as far as she can, and then wrap the tape around her head multiple times.
-Fold a cloth (towel, scarf, bandana) into a pad and place it over her nose and mouth.
-Tie another (knotted) cleave gag.
-Add the following things (using cloth materials): otm, pad, cleave, otm
- Wrap some more tape over her mouth.
-Place a last cloth padding and secure it with a Over-the-Nose gag.
-Tie a scarf or bandana on her head (pirate style). Just because it looks and feels good.
-Last step: wrap her whole head in bandages, using multiple (3,4,5 or even more) layers and leave a strip open at her eyes so you can see her fear and/or excitement.

That should keep her (or him if you want), quiet. :gag: If your victim can still breathe is another thing XD

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby w3sKer96 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:00 am

Hey, but like I said, this is a forum for realistic AND fantastical gags. Very indepth.

I also thought of using a mouthpiece like for boxers in substitution for a cleave gag.

Re: Complicated Gags

Postby Scottstud94 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:22 am

Here's one Ive done at home.

-First I put a sock in my mouth, small enough so I can fit it in but big enough to fill my entire mouth. Generally a soccer sock is too much but a baseball sock does well.

-Then I put on a hooded sweatshirt and I put the hood over my head. Then put several strips of duct tape over my mouth.

-Using duct tape or large width electrical tape I wrap from underneath my chin to the top of my head to keep my jaw from moving, 5 wraps usually does it.

-Now I wrap the tape around my head covering from my nose to underneath my chin. 10 wraps is generally enough to where no matter how hard I try I cannot loosen the tape.

-Using stretchy medical gauze I wrap that around my mouth and eyes, I have enough for 15 wraps, Now my entire head except my nose is covered.

-Little extra tape for sensory deprivation.