## Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by ducttapeboy001 » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:39 am

Most of you must be knowing Justin Bieber, a teenage boy who sings like a girl, if you dont know him by any chance, go to youtube and search for Justin bieber, and watch one of his songs.
I kinda hate him, the way he sings, he sings like a girl, but I am sure most girls totally love him. Well when puberty hits him, his voice will break up and he wont have his pretty voice like now, his voice will change into a more man-ish voice, after that I dont think he will be singing anymore
So any Justin bieber haters/lovers here ???
I would like to know your opinion on him
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Jason Toddman » Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:37 pm

Uhh, the kid is already 16 years old; I think he's ALREADY hit puberty by now!
I never heard him sing that I know of, as I no longer watch TV or Youtube. I never heard of him period until a few weeks ago; it's hard to be hip when you're in your 50's. Were Bieber around when I was a kid, I'd probably be jealous of his looks more than his voice, anyway.
Are you still a kid yourself by any chance? Jealousy of kid actors/singers is fairly common among other kids, and IMO you sound just a teensy weensy bit jealous here. When I was a kid, I used to be jealous of Donny Osmond and Michael Jackson, who were only slightly younger than I was when they became famous singers as young kids (at least as popular as Bieber is now), and wished I was one of them because I sing like a buzzard, wasn't as 'cute', and was always a nobody. Now I thank God I am neither of those two people.
And even if his voice breaks, as long as he has that face girls (and some boys too i'm sure) will continue to adore him.
Ten years from now, Justin is likely to be a has-been living on the memory of his glory days. Let him enjoy them while he can.
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by dreadnaught3200 » Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:57 pm

Well my view on the subject is this: I listen to two genres primarily, Classical Music, and Heavy Metal. Justin Bieber has absolutely no place in either of those. As such, I have no plan to ever go to a Bieber concert. But I think its kind of stupid to hate singers just because they're successful. Whatever, you don't like him, don't listen to him. The kind of pop singers I hate are the Lindsay Lohans and Miley Cyruses of the world, going out there dressed like sluts and singing songs about how slutty they are. For goodness sake! Put some clothes on!
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by ducttapeboy001 » Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:43 am

Im not Jealous of him, I would hat it if I was him.
The thing I hate in him, is that he sings like a girl, if you listem to his song on a radio, you would think its a girl singing.
Even if he has that high pitched voice, cant he sing in a boyish way ??
I dont hate him big time, I just simply hate him.
it makes me GLaD, Im not you
And believe me Im still alive
Im doing TUGs and Im still alive.
I feel fantastic and Im stilll alive
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Jason Toddman » Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:51 am

Well, younger boy singers DO tend to be soprano - though Bieber seemed to have remained one rather longer than average.
You would've hated Prince and Michael Jackson then too had you lived earlier. When MJ first did that duet with Paul McCartney "This Girl is Mine" waaay back in 1981, I was SURE Paul was singing this duet with a woman and I was going WTF?!! Is he singing about girls with some kind of lesbian? Prince (or whatever he is called these days) is also high pitched and I thought he was a woman at first too; but it never bothered me when I learned otherwise.
According to Bieber's wiki, his voice IS changing and lowering (he must've had a late puberty after all, which might explain his too-cute babyish face for a 16-year-old), so maybe when his voice settles down in pitch he'll sound better to you.
And you'd hate to be him? Rich, good-looking, popular with girls, and talented (whether or not you like the way he sounds)? You'd HATE that? SURE you're not jealous.
That ISN'T meant as a put down. I didn't think I was jealous of kid singers either when I was a kid, but I WAS; and I sounded just like you do now about the ones that were popular in my day (particularly Donny Osmond - who now I AM glad I'm not him). Couldn't you be jealous without quite realizing it yourself like I was?
But whichever of us is right in that, Dreadnought is right too; if you don't like Bieber's voice, don't listen to him. I hate rap at least as much as (and probably more than) you hate Justin Bieber, but I don't hate rappers nor people who listen to them. I just ignore it as if it doesn't exist.
Sounds like the perfect torture for you during a TUG would be to strap earphones on you and force you to listen to nothing but Justin Bieber for a long time; sensory deprivation might seem like bliss to you compared to that!
I hope any TUG friends you have do not read this thread and decide totry my idea!
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Chris12 » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:13 am

At first i could not believe he was 16! he looks like 13 or 14 or something.
His singing is rather good but i'm not really a fan of it.

### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by ducttapeboy001 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:28 am

Well, you can say Im jealous of his popularity, but his voice and the way he sings, NO WAY.
There are friends I have who hate Bieber alot. I am not one of them but I still hate him.
Maybe when his voice gets lower and when he sounds like an male, AND if he sings well, I myt be pleased...
it makes me GLaD, Im not you
And believe me Im still alive
Im doing TUGs and Im still alive.
I feel fantastic and Im stilll alive
You'd be EVIL if you're GLaD

### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Jason Toddman » Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:56 am

> ducttapeboy001 wrote:Well, you can say Im jealous of his popularity, but his voice and the way he sings, NO WAY.
> There are friends I have who hate Bieber alot. I am not one of them but I still hate him.
> Maybe when his voice gets lower and when he sounds like an male, AND if he sings well, I myt be pleased...

I'm sure that will make Justin Bieber really happy! '
I'm not sure your middle line makes any sense. Your friends hate Bieber a lot, you're not one of them but you still hate him? Oooookaaaayy!
I have no opnion of my bown about his singing as I have never heard it; I never bothered to watch him on Youtube.
Anyway, I'll quit pestering you now before you decide that you hate ME even more - I probably have too many 'anti-fans' (or whatever the right word is) of my own already on this site.
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by haloguy » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:42 pm

I despise that kid, he tried to make profit off of the haiti fundraiser, by asking for 3%. also, he sings like a girl, acts like a girl, and probably IS a girl

### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Boundgal08 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:13 am

OK just for the record, people who love him need to be shot, girls who fancy him need to be shot too! Making a point here!
He is a crap singer, with a girls voice, who has hit puberty, and his voice will probably remain that way for years to come... I have listened to one of his songs, first 10 seconds and I was already asleep!
I hate him.... he is somewhat 'gay' cant stand him sorry!
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Chris12 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:28 am

I actually thought almost all girls liked him and that it where the guys who hated him.

### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Boundgal08 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:46 am

> Chris12 wrote:I actually thought almost all girls liked him and that it where the guys who hated him.

Sorry I am too old to be standing in a crowd of screaming little pathetic girls, going 'Justin we love you'... You can throw BG a bucket, cause she will puke in it!
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Writer » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:21 pm

So, I'm in choir at my school, and we are taught NOT to sing like Justin Bieber, especially if you're a guy. Bieber's "pop" sound may sound appealing to the untrained ear, but to those who care about clean sounds in music, he is an absolute joke. I really don't like how many people fauwn over him at school, especially the younger generation of girls, but then I can't overly hate him because then that would make ME look bad to others (as I still have to fit into the general populace). But yes, Bieber, despite being able to keep a melody, has a very annoying and unappealing voice... at least to those of us in the choral world.
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Nuclearo » Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:40 pm

Easily summed up: He exists because he was randomly selected to be what 12 year old girls like. Once he grows up, whether his testicles drop or not, he will be thrown aside for whatever other annoyance is chosen to violate the minds of every conscious adult staring at a crowd of rabid pre-teen girls.
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by ducttapeboy001 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:46 am

ohhhh Jason, no offence to you, well if its your opinion, its alright.
lol well I was trying to say that I dont hate bieber as much as my friends, but now I hate him more after listening to more songs sung by bieber, actually I didnt even listen much.
Well many adults will not have anything against or for bieber, but we all TEEN boys and some TEEN girls hate him alot.
@Boundgal, lol even I thought all girls liked him.
it makes me GLaD, Im not you
And believe me Im still alive
Im doing TUGs and Im still alive.
I feel fantastic and Im stilll alive
You'd be EVIL if you're GLaD

### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Jason Toddman » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:31 am

> ducttapeboy001 wrote:ohhhh Jason, no offence to you, well if its your opinion, its alright.
> lol well I was trying to say that I dont hate bieber as much as my friends, but now I hate him more after listening to more songs sung by bieber, actually I didnt even listen much.
> Well many adults will not have anything against or for bieber, but we all TEEN boys and some TEEN girls hate him alot.
> @Boundgal, lol even I thought all girls liked him.

I never meant any offense to you either. Apparently his popularity isn't all it is cracked up to be (I guess soing sales don't mean the same thing as they did 40 years ago). I was speaking generally, without knowing any of the specifics concerning Bieber in particular. I still have never heard him sing nor do I intend to, so you can hardly call me a fan of his. But I guess he really IS a love him or hate him kind of guy without the general appeal kids like Michael Jackson had when HE was younger! So maybe the jealousy aspect doesn't apply after all. Sorry about that.
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Boundgal08 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:30 pm

Hehe, he is like Marmite you either love it or hate it! Simples.
I for one have never heard his voice, well I tell you something I just happened to google him once, and it was the most horrific singing voice ever, and the music is just not my scene!!!
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Jason Toddman » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:56 pm

> Boundgal08 wrote:Hehe, he is like Marmite you either love it or hate it! Simples.
> I for one have never heard his voice, well I tell you something I just happened to google him once, and it was the most horrific singing voice ever, and the music is just not my scene!!!

Stupid question time: What's Marmite? I've never heard of it.
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Nuclearo » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:09 pm

I just saw a video oh him and ludacris on TV the other day. It was muted so I turned the sound on... and I'm completely neutral. yeah he isn't great. Okay, not even good imo. But it's obvious all the hate is because he's overhyped by hormonal preteens. He still LOOKs annoying as hell. I think it would all be more enjoyable if we tied and gagged him, and if we dressed him like a girl he has the voice to pull it off!
But what do I know, I barely heard 2 or 3 lines from him cuz I unmuted in the ludacris part... Good call though
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Boundgal08 » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:44 am

> Jason Toddman wrote:

> > Boundgal08 wrote:Hehe, he is like Marmite you either love it or hate it! Simples.
> > I for one have never heard his voice, well I tell you something I just happened to google him once, and it was the most horrific singing voice ever, and the music is just not my scene!!!

> Stupid question time: What's Marmite? I've never heard of it.

Hehe...didn't think you would have done!! Ill send you a link, and you can look it up for yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMg5mJUr8dU
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by ducttapeboy001 » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:06 am

lol Marmite, its good for your health right ???
I wouldnt consider him as that if it is gud for your health.
do you think he uses lipstick ???
it makes me GLaD, Im not you
And believe me Im still alive
Im doing TUGs and Im still alive.
I feel fantastic and Im stilll alive
You'd be EVIL if you're GLaD

### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Nuclearo » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:58 am

Telling the people they might hate it probably isn't a good idea in a commercial. Then again, it is funny XD
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Boundgal08 » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:10 pm

LMAO... you will never get it unless you are from Great Britain!!! XD
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by ducttapeboy001 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:45 am

I know marmite, never tried it though...
Justin bieber could go for girl cosmetics advertisements, xD he will earn extra moneh
it makes me GLaD, Im not you
And believe me Im still alive
Im doing TUGs and Im still alive.
I feel fantastic and Im stilll alive
You'd be EVIL if you're GLaD

### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Jake_100 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:11 pm

The only good thing about Justin Bieber is when Ludacris starts rapping in one of his songs "When i was thirteen, I had my first love..." etc. The way he says it just make me crack up!

### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by pepsi24 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:41 pm

like him or not the kid has a crap load of talent, he can sing( like it or not) he can dance and sing, he plays guitar, drums, piano, he has finished performong with a broken foot in one show, he is ok in my book

### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by Fesselfan » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:06 pm

Neither love nor hate...I simply don't care (and haven't known him before anyway).
I wonder why what these love/hate posts are for
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by spencer22 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:13 pm

I have nothing against him personally, I just think his songs are relatively shallow, and he's mostly just a marketing ploy.

### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by MollyRosey » Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:38 pm

I am a teenage girl (just a bit older then justin) and I dont see what the hype about him is. I like a bit of pop but when I heard him I genuinly thought it was a girl. No jokes. All my friends went to go and see him and I gave them a lift then went to mcdonalds so please dont steriotype girls as automatically loving him! I am sorry for my rant! Paolo Nutini beats all!
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### Re: Justin Bieber Haters/Lovers ????

Post by spencer22 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:48 pm

Molly - So glad someone else knows who Paolo Nutini is!