## New Banner Poll

Post by Jason Toddman » Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:59 am

Some people would like to replace the banner used on this site with a new one.
Assuming I draw a new one rather than a photo being chosen, what would you most like to see in a new drawn banner?
If I draw one, I want it to appeal to the most people possible, so what do you most want to see included (please try to avoid making mutually exclusive choices)?
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by mikeybound » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:15 am

There are so many! I can't choose one .

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Post by Jason Toddman » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:25 am

> mikeybound wrote:There are so many! I can't choose one .

That's why I allowed the selection of more than one option, silly. My poll allows up to six; that seems like plenty to me! I can boost it further though if anyone else says that six are still too few, but i think that might render the poll less accurate the more choices I allow.
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by xtc » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:46 am

Thanks for taking this on board, Jason.
Six is surely enough choices, there's no compulsion to chose six so people might only chose, say one or two options.
Boxer shorts are cool,
but little speedos rule!
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by Jason Toddman » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:10 am

You're welcome, xtc.
I'm noticing some trends already too - even though it's only been a trifle over an hour since I set this poll up as I write this.
Naturally I'll concentrate on the choices that get the most votes, but also work in as many as I can without creating undue clutter.
So vote for your heart's desire, folks!
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by TUfriend » Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:53 pm

Why is teens doing so well? Creepers. Anyway, if the banner does change, can we just add it as another site background, thingy. I like it how it is.
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by Jason Toddman » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:44 pm

> TUfriend wrote:Why is teens doing so well? Creepers. Anyway, if the banner does change, can we just add it as another site background, thingy. I like it how it is.

Let's face it, Tufriend; teens look more appealing than older folks like myself. I wasn't exactly the stud of my high school class, but compared to how I look now I looked like a movie star! Teens tied look appealing (at least to some); older folks like me (not speaking for any other older members reading this!!!) in the same role often simply look pathetic!
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Post by Jay Candice » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:22 am

Perhaps making it of many different people, as diversity is good, it shows that anyone can be in to bondage. Like, it doesn't matter if you are white, black, Asian, Mexican, Alien, whatever. If you're a teen, or older, or a toddler. Get my drift?
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by xtc » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:59 am

Whatever the decision, the result should not be too "busy". A Cofused image lacks the clarity required from such an image.
Boxer shorts are cool,
but little speedos rule!
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by Jason Toddman » Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:35 am

> Jay Candice wrote:Perhaps making it of many different people, as diversity is good, it shows that anyone can be in to bondage. Like, it doesn't matter if you are white, black, Asian, Mexican, Alien, whatever. If you're a teen, or older, or a toddler. Get my drift?

I entirely agree, and in fact had already intended to put some racial diversity into this picture (just as I have with pictures illustrated my TUGs autobiography, which already have black, Asian and Hispanic - not Mexican however; Puerto Rican - characters). However, although I have also drawn aliens, elves, demon boys and angel boys in many of of my fictional stories (some of which I have never posted on this site because the TUGS in them tend to get overshadowed by other kink), I think normal human races will be sufficiently diverse here. As xtc points out, we don't want it too busy, and that does tend to be one of my failings.
However, I think toddlers and TUGs may be taking it TOO far! Toddmans and TUGs, yeah... but toddlers, no.
What I am thinking of right now is still pretty much the same as before, going by the poll results so far: two or three captives side by side, each with his or her own captor, reflecting as much variety of people and TUG positions as possible with only a minimal background. About the only element I hadn't definitely preplanned were the gags, but since they are heading the list of things people want that is certainly not a problem to include.
I had also considered doing it in 3D, but the lack of 3D bondage props available to me would render this impractical. Drawing 2d ropes on a three figure just doesn't look right, and handcuffs look even worse on them.
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by TUfriend » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:43 am

No one answered whether we can make a new theme with this new banner, because I like it how it is with the blue site and the hand drawn girl tieing up a guy. It fits the color scheme.
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by Jason Toddman » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:41 am

> TUfriend wrote:No one answered whether we can make a new theme with this new banner, because I like it how it is with the blue site and the hand drawn girl tieing up a guy. It fits the color scheme.

I figure that decision is up to Zanev and whoever else runs this site. I'm just volunteering to make a replacement drawing. I couldn't install it myself even if I wanted to.
Hmmm... maybe I should make a second, separate poll asking if the banner should be replaced at all.
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by Jason Toddman » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:23 am

Okay, it looks pretty clear to me that what people most want in a new banner is quite similar to what I had planned to do in the first place; this poll was just to make sure I had the right idea. Apparently, I did, so I'm going to start working on it now.
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by TUfriend » Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:24 pm

One other thing, color scheme should match.
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by Jason Toddman » Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:25 pm

Here's a first draft, though two of these figures are clipart I plan to replace with drawings of my own.
Tufriend; not sure what you mean by that.

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Post by TUfriend » Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:31 pm

Like use more grey/blue colors so that the picture doesn't clash with the rest of the site.
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Post by Jason Toddman » Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:00 pm

Might make details harder to see if I do that, but I'll taker it under advisement.
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by mikeybound » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:06 pm

If it's not too much to ask, could you throw in a muzzle gag or two?

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Post by Jason Toddman » Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:28 pm

One of those figures actually had one originally too. I'll replace it when I revise this.
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by Jason Toddman » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:15 pm

Here's a second attempt. Forgot the muzzle gag Mikeybound wanted, but as this is unlikely to be the final draft I'll try to put one in next time.

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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by Suestruggles » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:31 pm

Nice and less cluttered, but I count 7 tied up boys and one tied up girl (one bikini clad domme girl)
I like - less cluttered, girls and boys, girl In charge, all bare feet
I no like - ot enough girls, no stockings, no blindfolds,
Others may not like - no men in chatrge, no leather dommes, no boots, socks, tenis shoes , high heels.
Overall. it is better than first draft and way better than the current banner. 7/10
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by Jason Toddman » Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:54 pm

>>> Suestruggles Nice and less cluttered, but I count 7 tied up boys and one tied up girl (one bikini clad domme girl)
I intend to change both the gender and racial ratio with the next draft; assuming enough people like the number of figures already there. Most are actually pre-drawn, and I didn't want to modify figures I'll only wind up deleting.
I like - less cluttered, girls and boys, girl In charge, all bare feet
Was going to have more than one person in charge, then decided this was superfluous. May need to make a new poll about changes like this.
I no like - ot enough girls, no stockings, no blindfolds,
Easily fixed, and I intended to give some of the boys a makeover anyway; particularly the blond in the chair. Also intend to add more variety of gags too.
Others may not like - no men in chatrge, no leather dommes, no boots, socks, tenis shoes , high heels.
Well, an attempt to please everyone would only cutter the drawing right back up again. If I were doing a whole gallery, this might be fixable.
Thing is, I'm not into ANY of these things you've just listed myself! Sorry. I can add the footwear okay, but the idea of depicting dominant men when teenaged BOYS are tied up repels me utterly. Boys tying men, no problem - but I have a visceral hatred of drawing the opposite situation. Did it once for a joint project with xtc, but likely will never do it again. Sorry again.
Overall. it is better than first draft and way better than the current banner. 7/10
I don't expect I'll achieve a perfect 10 from anyone anyway (what might get a 10 from you might get only a 2 from someone else, and vice versa), so I'll take what I can get and settle for a decent overall average.
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by drawscore » Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:19 pm

Let's keep it "G" or PG" at best. Get into "R" or "X" territory, and you're just asking some mole to complain and try to close the site.
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Post by Jason Toddman » Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:21 pm

> drawscore wrote:Let's keep it "G" or PG" at best. Get into "R" or "X" territory, and you're just asking some mole to complain and try to close the site. Drawscore

I fully agree, and was already pretty well determined to do that anyway. Well, PG-13 anyway; I think ANY bondage probably constitutes that rating anyhow.
Certainly no or ; I save those for my stories.
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by NemesisPrime » Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:29 pm

> Jason Toddman wrote:

> > drawscore wrote:Let's keep it "G" or PG" at best. Get into "R" or "X" territory, and you're just asking some mole to complain and try to close the site. Drawscore

> I fully agree, and was already pretty well determined to do that anyway. Well, PG-13 anyway; I think ANY bondage probably constitutes that rating anyhow.
> Certainly no or ; I save those for my stories.

Which is a shame because that's the best part!
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Post by Vortex29 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:43 pm

I believe the picture is still too cluttered. I think there should be about five people. There should be longer black shorts on one of them, and a string bikini on the girl. Boxers for one of the boys, as well as khaki jeans, and a light hoodie on one of the guys.
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Post by Jason Toddman » Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:15 pm

> Vortex29 wrote:I believe the picture is still too cluttered. I think there should be about five people. There should be longer black shorts on one of them, and a string bikini on the girl. Boxers for one of the boys, as well as khaki jeans, and a light hoodie on one of the guys.
> If yu need inspiration for a female look up "blogman" on deviantart.

And you talk about clutter?
Those kind of details would only detract from the main concept at this point I think; especially considering how small the ultimate product is going to be.
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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by Jason Toddman » Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:27 pm

Attempt number three.

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### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by truly_trussed » Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:51 pm

> Suestruggles wrote:Nice and less cluttered, but I count 7 tied up boys and one tied up girl (one bikini clad domme girl)
> I like - less cluttered, girls and boys, girl In charge, all bare feet
> I no like - ot enough girls, no stockings, no blindfolds,
> Others may not like - no men in chatrge, no leather dommes, no boots, socks, tenis shoes , high heels.
> Overall. it is better than first draft and way better than the current banner. 7/10

Fear not Sweet Sue, for Jase is on the case. This is a work in progress but if anyone can do an extreme makeover he da man! Obviously we need to make this banner more female friendly. Wouldn't want to scare away any kinky sassy lassies who think they may have stumbled on to a male bondage site. Let them know how egalitarian we are and what a fun site this is.
There should be a good variation in the characters to reflect the varied tastes of readers and members. Some people prefer barefeet, some like kneesocks or highsocks. Some prefer rope, some prefer tape. Clothing varies widely. There are gags galore, all with the purpose to keep us quiet
Make this look like a well-rounded tie-up party. The ideal finished product will put the viewer (with his or her imagination) vicariously in the picture as another "victim" or captor or spectator. T.T
PS- I was just about to post this and then I saw attempt number 3. Way to go Jase!

### Re: New Banner Poll

Post by Jason Toddman » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:30 pm

I'll post another attempt tomorrow with new changes, too. I liked the ideas that we discussed in pm.
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