need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby soyoutie » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:44 am

Hello everyone. I am new to the site and so far I've been publishing just one story.
As already said elsewhere, most of my stories are real and that can to some extent represent a problem. In particular, I already wrote the first part of a story that is basically the beginning of my still ongoing relationship. As you can imagine the risk is to insert a big amount of unnecessary infos that are important to me but do not concur in the development of the story itself.
In fact, the stories I'm writing are full of extra details and have a strong sentimental shade building a very rich frame but watering down the action.
How do you think I should proceed here? Are you interested in reading long, 100% true storied or would you prefer to read stories narrwed down to the core? Should the stories follow a solid course of action or should I jump from one place to the other leaving unnecessary stuff behind?
As an example, I had some tie up games with my actual wife before things got sexual ( we werent even dating yet). Should I jump to the juicy part or retell everything in details?

Thanks for any advice

Re: need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby naomi » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:50 am

I think either option is valid - a quick glance at the board says there's a good mix of sexual and non-sexual stories, and at least one long-form piece of fiction that's got some important non-bondage-y aspects to it. It really comes down to what you, as the author, want to get out of telling them. Do you want to write a series of little bondage vignettes, or to retell parts of your life? Once you know which you're going for, you'll get a better sense of how much detailing to put in.

If you want my input as a reader, I think a story is very much enhanced by good character development.
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Re: need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby BoundJana » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:45 am

I think that's in the wrong section, I think this post would be better in TUGs Talk
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Re: need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby canuck100 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:48 am

BoundJana wrote:I think that's in the wrong section, I think this post would be better in TUGs Talk


Moved!

Re: need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby soyoutie » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:59 am

thank you for moving it, i was in doubt myself about where to put it

naomi wrote:I think either option is valid - a quick glance at the board says there's a good mix of sexual and non-sexual stories, and at least one long-form piece of fiction that's got some important non-bondage-y aspects to it. It really comes down to what you, as the author, want to get out of telling them. Do you want to write a series of little bondage vignettes, or to retell parts of your life? Once you know which you're going for, you'll get a better sense of how much detailing to put in.

If you want my input as a reader, I think a story is very much enhanced by good character development.


You hit the point. Fact is that after having written first part, I realize it goes a long long way before touching on anything, so to say, audience-friendly. And since I'm publishing this story it's not that I can't give a shit about the readers or at least I don't think that would be convenient.
The second part, that I'm writing right now, goes even a longer way: on one hand, I feel like being coherent and true to the course of action as it was on the other hand I'm tempted to make it a bit "leaner". Now your point is that a long, detailed story builds up atmosphere, and I copy it.
I would add that I have a handful of stories in stock.
Some are about properly tie-up games (3 episodes that occurred in the past) and about those I don't have much to mess around: they have a starting point and they have an ending point, the way I retell the whole thing can add more or less details but that's it.
The other big story I have in stock is the one about my couple and it dates back a long time ago. It has a starting point but (hopefully) no ending point. As any relationship, it wasn't born the same way it is now or one year ago, or five years ago or ten years ago. So chopping up pieces feels weird an inappropriate to me. I could eventually rephrase the whole topic of this posts in "would a normal reader get bothered/bored/butthurt reading useless, long stories in which little action is surrounded by tons of filling that actually makes up the atmosphere, or would he/she appreciate the care and thrutfullness of it?"

Re: need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby drawscore » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:49 pm

A repost from a while back:

Writing is an acquired talent or skill. Usually, the more of it you do, the better you become. To that end, here are some tips for writers that might be of help to our budding litterarii: (lit-ter air'-e-i)

1. Don't use no double negatives.

2. Make each pronoun agree with their antecedent.

3. Join clauses correctly, like a conjunction should.

4. About them sentence fragments.

5. When dangling, watch your participles.

6. Verbs has to agree with their subjects.

7. Just between you and I, case is important.

8. Don't write run-on sentences they are hard to read.

9. Don't use commas, which aren't necessary.

10. Its important to use apostrophe's correctly.

11. Try not to ever split infinitives.

12. Correct speling is essenshul.

13. Proofread your work to see if any words out.

14. A preposition is a poor word to end a sentence with.

15. Don't be redundundant.

Hope this helps. :)



Seriously, writing IS an acquired or learned skill. My biggest bugaboos are:

1. Misspelled words. SpellCheck is your friend. Use it.

2. It's a new paragraph every time the speaker changes.

3. Line space between paragraphs.

4. Improper use of homonyms. Writers need to know the differences between to, too, and two, and there, their, and they're, and others.

5. SpellCheck won't catch everything. Have someone that knows the language, proofread your work.

Drawscore

Re: need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby Steak in a Tree » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:11 am

Say what you will about drawscore, his advice is sound.
"They didn't call him 'Einstein' for nothing."
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Re: need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby xtc » Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:14 am

What @naomi says is sound. You must write in a manner that most appeals to you (taking into account the suggestions of drawscore and other proud grammar nazis such as myself). That way you will be better able to commit yourself to it. It will also probably ring truer to your readers.

I merely repeat a plea from the past: please do not present merely a list of who did what, with which, and to whom. [I Know, I know: redundant commas and one of them an Oxford comma. Even certain grammar nazis believe that the main purpose of both grammar and punctuation is to make the writer's intention clear to the reader. To produce slapdash stuff that is lesser than what a writer is capable of and expecting people to read it is arrogant. (See what I did there with drawscore's rule 14 but substituting "clause" for "sentence"? As I said: the idea is to be clear and contorting the clause with the misplaced preposition would have seemed clumsy)]

. . . and breathe.
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Re: need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby soyoutie » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:29 am

Good Basic rules, not sure if I m able to comply to all of them since i m not a native speaker and some of them are not so easy to grab At first

Re: need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby xtc » Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:04 pm

Don't worry about not being a native speaker; many of our non-native speakers write as well as, if not better than, those who are. The give-away is often a rather formal style, especially with direct speech.

Go for it and good luck.
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Re: need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby drawscore » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:15 am

Other thoughts:

Write to the high school level. (sophomore/junior level) The theory, is that if you write below that level, the older readers will think you are "talking down" to them. Write above that level, and the younger readers won't be able to understand it.

Continuity: Don't leave readers wondering how something happened. Keep track of your characters, and what they are doing. It is easy to lose track if Jimmy is left tied up in a closet, and then, two pages later, without any explanation, he's free, and busy tying up Judy. Readers are going to wonder how he got loose.

Natural speech: Write the way people talk. C'mon, let's go!" is what you hear in real life, Rarely will you hear "Come on, let's go,"

Weird stuff: Believe it or not, the English language is filled with contradictions, and things that are just flat out strange. For instance, "The data (is) (are) being transmitted." Most people would say the correct verb, is "is," but they'd be wrong. "Data" is plural, and therefore takes the plural verb "are." (The singular is "datum.)

Something else strange, is that the plural of "octopus" is "octopi." However, I probably would not see anything about an octopus or two, in your stories. Just be aware that there are some words where the plural is NOT formed by adding "s," or "es."

And write what you know and like. If most of your experience is F/F, F/M, or M/F, then stay with it. If you get into M/M, and are not really familiar with it, it will show in your work.

Drawscore

Re: need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby MisterBones » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:17 am

drawscore wrote:Something else strange, is that the plural of "octopus" is "octopi." However, I probably would not see anything about an octopus or two, in your stories. Just be aware that there are some words where the plural is NOT formed by adding "s," or "es."

No, the plural can be either "octopedes" or "octopuses". It's a Greek root.
I have ocs or whatever

Re: need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby xtc » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:22 am

Have seen it rendered "octopodes". It is NOT, in spite of what we have always been told, correctly "Octopi". However, usage has made that acceptable and I would probb;ly go with that if I could not avoid the use for the plural of "octopus" completely.

OK, who's going to post out first octopus themed tie-up game story? No, I am not soliciting photographs posted by cephalopods (See what I did there?) of themselves in self bondage.
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Re: need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby soyoutie » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:28 am

Would be octopi if it would be a Latin root, But as said, it is greek root οκτώ (eight ) and πουσ - ποδοσ (foot). And some tentacle - fetishist could easily insert octopedes in a tale ☺

Re: need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby drawscore » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:23 pm

And I'd always thought that "Illigitimi non tatum carborundum!" was a Latin phrase, meaning "Don't let the bastards wear you down." "illigitimi" being the plural of "illigitimus."

And that "sep," "octo," "nove," and "deci" were the Latin roots of "seven," "eight," "nine," and "ten." And that September, October, November, and December, were, respectively, the seventh, eighth, ninth, and tenth months, until Julius and Agustus Caesar decided they were important enough to have months named after them, which is what gave us July and August, and made the seventh month (September), the ninth month; the eighth (October) into the tenth; the ninth (November) into the eleventh, and the tenth month (December) into the twelfth.

Is my history flawed? Didn't Julius and Agustus Caesar speak Latin?

Drawscore

Re: need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby Kidnapable82 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:10 am

@soyoutie, The best advice I can give you is do not try to please people. Write your story and do it how you feel is best. Of course, you *do* want to have good writing skills (use spellcheck, etc). HOWEVER, I have learned on this forum that you will almost always get some kind of remark about grammar or punctuation. I used to let it get to me, but I ignore it (and I also just take it to a role play, period). We are here to have fun, not have a Professor grade our story and mark our errors in red pen.

I wish you the best of luck and can't wait to read your story!
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Re: need advice for writing/publishing a story

Postby soyoutie » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:33 am

Thanks everyone if not for anything, for having shown an ounce of interest