Question For The Females

Postby roberto » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:34 am

I've got a question for the girls/women about your TUGs

I've read quite a few stories lately about boys being tied up by girls (either girlfriends, sisters, co-workers, or other female family members) and then being dressed up in girls clothing. Sometimes makeup is applied too.

This scenario has become rampant and all too common and is highly unbelievable. I am by far an expert into the mind of the female thought process, however I have never known a female to even have that thought enter their mind!!!

SO, since I , and probably others, find this type of thing completely unbelievable, I am asking for comments and thoughts (primarily from the FEMALE posters) whether this really is something that girls and women get really get a thrill out of.

Thanks.........

Re: Question For The Females

Postby ana-tie91 » Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:22 am

roberto wrote:This scenario has become rampant and all too common and is highly unbelievable.

why is that? and before u ask no i'm not really like that type of girl...if u mean a dom girl! but why find it so unbelievable
according to ur expertise into "the mind of the female thought process" :geek:
just cos girls are the "soft" gender? ...yes absolutely these females are in minority but u can't ignore them at all!

Re: Question For The Females

Postby RopeGirlUSA » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:49 pm

i hardly ever do any tying, so i might not know the mind of a domme with much accuracy, but i would never think about feminizing a male. i don't know too many women who tie up guys who would do that, unless the guy wanted it. but speaking for myself, if my bf wanted me to tie him up, sure, no problem. but if he wanted to be made into a woman? absolutely not. i like my men to be manly, even if they are submissive. fortunately, i am 99% of the time on the receving end of the rope, so it doesn't come into play much.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby sarobah » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:44 pm

I would not get a thrill out of it.
Now what follows is MY PERSONAL OPINION ONLY!
I find it just a little bit offensive that a male will be humiliated by being forced to wear what we wear (almost) every day. I assume it’s meant to be humiliating.
It’s based on that antiquated premise that what males do and wear is the default and what we do and wear is the “other.” It’s like when guys (especially macho types like footballers) think it’s hilarious to dress up as women. If I dress up “as a guy” it’s likely no one will notice.

That’s the end of my gripe. On a lighter note, I agree with RopeGirl – I prefer my men to be manly. And Ana-tie, do you really expect a mere male to understand the female’s demonstrably superior thought processes?
(Just kidding, boys.)
I shall end it there before I get myself in trouble.

Postscript: It just occurred to me that “it’s likely no one will notice” could be taken the wrong way. It’s not that I normally look manly (heaven forbid!), but rather that women wear “masculine” clothing all the time. Which kind of negates the point about “default” and “other.” Oh well, it’s a woman’s prerogative to...
Now I must stop.
Words, like Nature, half reveal and half conceal the soul within.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby Kyle » Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:14 pm

sarobah wrote:
That’s the end of my gripe. On a lighter note, I agree with RopeGirl – I prefer my men to be manly. And Ana-tie, do you really expect a mere male to understand the female’s demonstrably superior thought processes?
(Just kidding, boys.)
I shall end it there before I get myself in trouble.


We might have to tie you up and put you in your womanly place if you keep that up...

Being a guy, all I'll add is I have known at least 2 or 3 different girls/women who wanted to paint guys' nails (including mine on one of those occasions). No wearing of women's clothes or restraints of any kind were involved though. I have no idea why they wanted to do it though.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby Tieup1 » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:06 am

I have heard and read some tales about this sort of thing. From what I can gather, it seems to be younger teens who do it. I think they just like to humiliate their male victim. Also heard of young girls tying other girls up, and drawing stuff on them. Its just a silly game to them.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby sarobah » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:57 am

Kyle wrote:We might have to tie you up and put you in your womanly place if you keep that up...

I could live with that :o)

Tieup1 wrote:From what I can gather, it seems to be younger teens who do it. I think they just like to humiliate their male victim.

I should have added this to my original rant, even if it’s not strictly about TUGs. As some of you will know from personal experience, many schools have a fund-raising “slave sale” when senior students are auctioned off to the younger ones, who get to humiliate their slaves. The most popular way is to make their victims dress up in silly costumes; and for the males that means being made to wear girls’ clothes. At my school, the poor dears were forced to wear a skirt for a whole day! How awful for them. Of course, half the students in the school were forced to wear a skirt for 200 days a year.
Oh, the injustice... it still hurts.*

* Okay, not really.

One last thing... If you really want to torture a guy, make him wear high heels all day.
Words, like Nature, half reveal and half conceal the soul within.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby Tieup1 » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:11 am

Personally I've got no problem with this sort of thing. My preference is for tying females up, but if a girl/woman was to tie me up, and plaster me with make up, and make me wear high heels, I'd be up for it. Sometimes you just got to let yourself go, and have a fun experience.

Having said that, I would be planning my revenge, as soon as she gagged me. :wink:

Re: Question For The Females

Postby KittyReaper » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:33 pm

sarobah wrote:One last thing... If you really want to torture a guy, make him wear high heels all day.


This. A thousand times this. That's how you torture someone.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby Kyle » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:00 pm

This thread made me ask a question, but rather than take this thread off-topic I decided to start a new one instead so hopefully this one will stay on-topic.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15155&p=101120#p101120

Please don't respond to this one here, I'm just posting this here so the connection will be made.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby Suestruggles » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:13 am

roberto wrote: I am by far an expert into the mind of the female thought process, however I have never known a female to even have that thought enter their mind!!!


That really seems too much to believe. Are you a psychologist specialising in female minds ir just an egotistical male with delusions of adequacy.

But to answer the question not have my little rant: I do not know how common being forced to dress as a female is. I do not know how common the desire to be feminisd is but on this board it seems more common than the background population (just like the desire to be stripped, tied up and tormented seems more common on this board).

as Sara says, Forcing a mn to wear a skirt is a form of humiliation which does not work in reverse. humiliation often features in teenage games, sex games and bondage games (just thinks, forced stripping, stealing your friends clothes at the beach) and as for make up; well i have drawn on (and been drawn on) tied up helpless victims befoe. usually "Tickle here" " spank me please" etc.
Sue

Fit to be tied, wants to struggle.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby Boundgirl » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:08 am

Not a domme, either...for me, sounds more like a male fantasy than a female.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby sarobah » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:23 am

Suestruggles wrote:
roberto wrote: I am by far an expert into the mind of the female thought process...

That really seems too much to believe. Are you a psychologist specialising in female minds or just an egotistical male with delusions of adequacy.

I took that to be a typo, that he meant to say the opposite, but on re-reading it, I think I was wrong.
Back to you, Roberto...

Boundgirl wrote:sounds more like a male fantasy than a female.

Exactly.
:o)
Words, like Nature, half reveal and half conceal the soul within.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby roberto » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:14 am

sarobah wrote:
Suestruggles wrote:
roberto wrote: I am by far an expert into the mind of the female thought process...

That really seems too much to believe. Are you a psychologist specialising in female minds or just an egotistical male with delusions of adequacy.

I took that to be a typo, that he meant to say the opposite, but on re-reading it, I think I was wrong.
Back to you, Roberto...

Boundgirl wrote:sounds more like a male fantasy than a female.

Exactly.
:o)



Sue, Sara....

When I wrote that being "Far from being an expert", I am stating that I know very little (like most men) about what women are thinking. OK.....in a normal relationship, women expect and want many commonalities as men do (Security, respect, honesty, companionship, etc.). However, in a TUG relationship, be it with friends, family members, lovers, co-workers, or acquaintances), I admit that the mindset of the female "captor" or "Domm" is not understood!!!


However, I do agree with boundgirl and Sara that most, if not all, of these type of stories are just nothing more than a male fantasy.

Just for the record, I have very little experience in TUGs and have no interest make-up or dressing in womens clothes. I have only noticed that this type of "humiliation" seems to be included in many of the stories written by boys/men. I appreciate the feedback and responses to my question and I feel that my suspicions are confirmed. Thank you

Re: Question For The Females

Postby MHW » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:13 am

Has anyone on here also considered that it could be from the female mind, but a very specific type of female? (ex: lesbian or bi) Because if that were true, then their motives would be fairly clear. Make the man look more appealing according to their tastes.

In my experience, I had a few female friends in a youth group try to "make-over" most of the guys. I outright refused of course :P

Re: Question For The Females

Postby sarobah » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:18 pm

roberto wrote: When I wrote that being "Far from being an expert", I am stating that I know very little (like most men) about what women are thinking.

I was right the first time. You are exonerated :o)

roberto wrote:In a normal relationship, women expect and want many commonalities as men do (Security, respect, honesty, companionship, etc.). However, in a TUG relationship, be it with friends, family members, lovers, co-workers, or acquaintances), I admit that the mindset of the female "captor" or "Domm" is not understood!!!

I think I spy a non sequitur in what you’re saying, but I agree with you about understanding mindsets.
My own, personal point of view is that I don’t understand the fun in being the “captor” rather than the “victim” – but for me that applies to both sexes.
So this is not a criticism of what you’ve written. Are you saying you believe (or suspect) that there is a difference between the mindset of a dom and a domme (i.e. male and female dominant)?
If so, I think you may be right, but I’m interested in more of your views on this (and others’).
Words, like Nature, half reveal and half conceal the soul within.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby sarobah » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:36 pm

MHW wrote:Has anyone on here also considered that it could be from the female mind, but a very specific type of female? (ex: lesbian or bi) Because if that were true, then their motives would be fairly clear. Make the man look more appealing according to their tastes.

You like courting danger, don’t you?
:o)
A lesbian is not going to desire a man just because he’s dressed as a girl. Reverse the situation – would a “straight” man be attracted to another guy if he looks like a girl? (Unless the straight guy doesn’t know, in which case it’s a totally different “ball game” – so to speak.)
As a rather poor analogy... Vegetarians won’t eat meat, so matter how much you dress it up as a vegetable, it’s still meat and they don’t want it.

In my experience, I had a few female friends in a youth group try to "make-over" most of the guys.

Ah yes, but was it forced cross-dressing?
And to belabour a point... I’m sure there was fun and frivolity all round... but would it have been just as hilarious if the females were “made over” into males?

I outright refused of course

Well done. You are a man of conviction.
Words, like Nature, half reveal and half conceal the soul within.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby MHW » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:34 pm

You like courting danger, don’t you?
:o)
A lesbian is not going to desire a man just because he’s dressed as a girl. Reverse the situation – would a “straight” man be attracted to another guy if he looks like a girl? (Unless the straight guy doesn’t know, in which case it’s a totally different “ball game” – so to speak.)
As a rather poor analogy... Vegetarians won’t eat meat, so matter how much you dress it up as a vegetable, it’s still meat and they don’t want it.

But of course! :) Devil's advocate is fun. And granted, you've got me there, at least on the lesbian point, although I think my point still stands for any Bi ladies. I guess my only defence of my statement is that biologically men can provide something that women simply cannot, without complicated procedures of course. So maybe there would be a bit of necessity mixed into it. A weak and shallow covering of my bottom, but it's all I've got XD

Ah yes, but was it forced cross-dressing?
And to belabour a point... I’m sure there was fun and frivolity all round... but would it have been just as hilarious if the females were “made over” into males?

To answer your first question, no it was not. A couple of the other guys went along with it without much complaint, at least until it came time to get all the stuff off their faces. As for your second, honestly I don't find it funny when a male is dressed as a female to begin with, so a girl dressing in baggy clothes and doing the best to cover up their womanly shapes wouldn't be very ammusing to me either.

Well done. You are a man of conviction.

Yes, I am most of the time haha, don't see how I couldn't be.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby TUfriend » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:06 pm

I(a male) feel as though it is part of a humiliation factor. I think it would be fun to have it happen, but not is a transvestite sort of way. The same as like a pie in the face.
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Re: Question For The Females

Postby bound-n-left » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:58 am

@BOUNDGIRL i agree with you.. for some odd reason certain guy's like that.. no girl wants to see her man look like that.. they want someone tough. maybe if they had a friend tied up & it was a prank i can see that. but no you got it twisted roberto.
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Re: Question For The Females

Postby sarobah » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:43 am

bound-n-left wrote:but no you got it twisted roberto.

In Roberto’s defence, that is what he was suggesting, that it’s essentially a male fantasy.
Words, like Nature, half reveal and half conceal the soul within.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby roberto » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:32 am

Thank you Sarobah for defending me........ We are in agreement that this type of "scene" is mostly in the male author's fantasy mind. I have yet to read any stories from female authors telling how they dressed their male captive in girls/female clothes or applying make-up.

In the "REAL" world, this is not too common (Although, I will not rule it out completely!!!). I have known quite a few girls/women in my life who DO enjoy power and control, however I do not suspect that these girls/women would receive any gratification in dressing their male partner in female clothing and make-up. It is my opinion that girls/women who would only do this type of thing at the request of their male partner.

SO........bound-n-left. You apparently have twisted the words that I have written. Boundgirl was the first to state that this was in the male author's fantasy mind, of which, I agree. My original question was to get a response from the females on this board to confirm what I suspect.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby sarobah » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:38 am

roberto wrote:Thank you Sarobah for defending me.

So that’s twice I have come to your defence.
I’ve always been the Damsel in Distress. Now suddenly I’m the Knight in Shining Armour.
This may be a game changer!
Words, like Nature, half reveal and half conceal the soul within.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby Suestruggles » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:52 am

roberto wrote:
sarobah wrote:
Suestruggles wrote:
roberto wrote: I am by far an expert into the mind of the female thought process...

That really seems too much to believe. Are you a psychologist specialising in female minds or just an egotistical male with delusions of adequacy.

I took that to be a typo, that he meant to say the opposite, but on re-reading it, I think I was wrong.
Back to you, Roberto...

Boundgirl wrote:sounds more like a male fantasy than a female.

Exactly.
:o)



Sue, Sara....

When I wrote that being "Far from being an expert", I am stating that I know very little (like most men) about what women are thinking. OK.....in a normal relationship, women expect and want many commonalities as men do (Security, respect, honesty, companionship, etc.). However, in a TUG relationship, be it with friends, family members, lovers, co-workers, or acquaintances), I admit that the mindset of the female "captor" or "Domm" is not understood!!!


However, I do agree with boundgirl and Sara that most, if not all, of these type of stories are just nothing more than a male fantasy.

Just for the record, I have very little experience in TUGs and have no interest make-up or dressing in womens clothes. I have only noticed that this type of "humiliation" seems to be included in many of the stories written by boys/men. I appreciate the feedback and responses to my question and I feel that my suspicions are confirmed. Thank you



Apologies. typo accepted.
Sue

Fit to be tied, wants to struggle.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby roberto » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:58 am

Suestruggles wrote:
Apologies. typo accepted.


No apologies are required :D


sarobah wrote:
I’ve always been the Damsel in Distress. Now suddenly I’m the Knight in Shining Armour.
This may be a game changer!


Don't knock it till you've tried it :wink:

Re: Question For The Females

Postby sarobah » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:42 pm

roberto wrote:
sarobah wrote:I’ve always been the Damsel in Distress. Now suddenly I’m the Knight in Shining Armour.
This may be a game changer!

Don't knock it till you've tried it

I think I shall stay with Team Damsel. We get to wear the pretty clothes (which is essentially where this conversation began :o)
Words, like Nature, half reveal and half conceal the soul within.

Re: Question For The Females

Postby Kyle » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:08 pm

But you get left tied to railroad tracks and menaced by creepy guys in abandoned warehouses too.

Not trying to speak for any women, but this seems to me something that only younger girls might like dressing up boys that annoy them as girls to be mean and they might think it's funny. But I really have no idea. I can't imagine it's a common thing though, even compared to bondage/tie-ups, which at least a mild interest in is actually fairly common among the general population.