How would you...well, you know

Postby Sacrificiallove » Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:50 am

Okay, I can't believe I'm doing this, but honestly I have to know. I'm female and eighteen. Please only post if you're younger than eighteen and less than 170 pounds, because I don't want to imagine myself getting legitmately overtaken by someone. So with me being completely submissive (which I hardly ever am), how would you tie me up and gag me? And please, no sex or getting me naked afterwards. Or anything sexual at all, actually. If you hurt me, it's okay as long as it's not extreme, cause if it's not, expect me to either escape and get back at you or if I can't, do that once you let me go.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Fan_Of_Blindfolds » Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:30 pm

I'm going to assume we're friendly, and that you're doing this voluntarily. If you'd prefer a kidnapping thing or whatever, I can write one of those instead. You'll be wearing a one-piece swimsuit; it's skimpy enough to make you a bit uncomfortable, but no more.

I'd start out by blindfolding you. I'd use a long scarf, and bring it around your head once, tying it in the back and leaving the ends of the scarf dangling behind you. I'd ask you if you can see, and make adjustments if needed. Then I'd ask if you're comfortable. You'd say yes, I'd hope. Then I'd turn you around and get started on your arms. I'd start with your elbows, actually. I'd pull them together until they touch, then tie them like that. I'd be as gentle as possible; I don't want to cut off your circulation. Next, I'd take a piece of rope and put it in front of you, directly underneath your breasts, and bring it back behind your arms and tie it there. This further traps your upper arms, as well as, well, looking nice, if you know what I mean. I'd leave your lower arms free for now.

I'd guide you over to a couch, and help you sit on it. I'd lift your legs a bit and bind them above your knees, then at your knees, then below them and finally at your ankles. I'd still be gentle, though firm. Nothing would be excessively tight; it would be tight enough that you can't get out or move around, but no tighter. I'd let you sit there for a while, and talk with you. Maybe flirt a bit. I want to make sure that you're comfortable before going on.

Finally, I'd help you stand again. I'd take a piece of heavy rope, wrap it around your stomach several times, and tie it tightly. This makes it hard to breathe, making you feel even more helpless. Of course, I wouldn't do it tightly enough that it's dangerous. If you ask what I'm doing, I'd explain. Finally, I'd tie your wrists together, and then say I have to go get something. I'd take my time with it, to give you time to wonder what I'm doing. When I come back, I'd start wrapping you in the saran wrap I left to get. I'd wrap you from toe to head, leaving only your face uncovered. Then, I'd pick you up, and put you face-down on the ground, bend your legs behind you, and wrap them like that. Of course, you have to cooperate here, but I assume you would. Now your legs are secured in a position where you can't even hop around; you're completely helpless, except that you can still speak.

I'd pick you up and lay you down on the couch, face-up this time. I'd ask you how you're feeling; I'd say that I hope you're comfortable, because you'll be like this for a few hours. I'd then ask for permission to gag you, which, of course, you'd give. I'd place some fabric in your mouth, then tie a bandanna around your face over your mouth. It's not the most effective gag, but I like the way that looks, and I do want you to be able to make some noise in case anything goes wrong. I'd sit with you for a while, but quietly leave after a while.

Six hours later, I'd let you out. I'd start, by necessity, with your gag, then your wrappings, and proceed from there in reverse order. I'd leave your blindfold on, though, and tell you not to remove it yet. I'd guide you into another room, and sit you down on a chair. I'd treat you to a home-made dinner made by me. Your blindfold would stay on through the whole meal. After we're done eating, I'd come over to you to remove your blindfold. But before I take it off, I'd kiss you gently on the cheek.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Sacrificiallove » Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:36 pm

Lolllll............the bathing suit thing......yeah, you wouldn't want to see me in one. And you probably wouldn't be able to pick me up....I'm kind of fat. Not like obese or anything, but well, I'm a combination of fat and muscle I suppose. But thanks for doing it consenually. You know, though, you could write about how you would try to kidnap me, and how you think I'd react (let me give you a hint: you wouldn't succeed).

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Fan_Of_Blindfolds » Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:39 pm

Honestly, appearance has never mattered much to me. The point was to make you feel a bit uncomfortable, though I don't know if that would actually happen.

I'll try writing some kind of kidnapping thing, sure!

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Sacrificiallove » Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:59 pm

Lol, yeah, try it. But don't make it where you actually manage to win in the end. Cause no one would ever be able to do that to me, I swear. They'd have a bloody nose and a broken arm, and depending on how hard it is to deal with them and what mood I'm in, busted balls too.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Kyle » Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:39 pm

Sacrificiallove wrote:You know, though, you could write about how you would try to kidnap me, and how you think I'd react (let me give you a hint: you wouldn't succeed).


Maybe you should ask for stories about how people would plan to tie you up, but you manage to overpower them and tie them up instead.

I'm over the age limit and nearly over the weight limit, so I can't respond with an actual how-I'd-tie-you-up post.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Sacrificiallove » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:06 pm

Kyle wrote:
Sacrificiallove wrote:You know, though, you could write about how you would try to kidnap me, and how you think I'd react (let me give you a hint: you wouldn't succeed).


Maybe you should ask for stories about how people would plan to tie you up, but you manage to overpower them and tie them up instead.

I'm over the age limit and nearly over the weight limit, so I can't respond with an actual how-I'd-tie-you-up post.

All right, well, despite the age and weight, give me a story about how you'd plan to do it, and how I'd overpower you. I'd like to hear that.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Kyle » Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:55 pm

Well I have to admit I was more making a comment than anything else. This is probably why I shouldn't get on here at 1:40 a.m...

But anyway, since you asked, I figure I'd break into your house wearing a black ski mask, dark shirt and dark pants and I'd grab you from behind and cover your mouth with my hand. I'd shove you onto your bed and tell you to put your hands behind your back. My plan would be to tie your hands behind your back with rope, gag you with duct tape, blindfold you with a bandana, tie your arms to your sides to make you more helpless, and then lead you out of the house to my car, where I'd lock you in the trunk and drive off with you. At this point I don't know what I'd do.

I have two ideas on how you could overpower me. The first would be early on, at the time when I push you on the bed to tie your hands. You're trying to think of a way out of the situation and tell me about your jewelry and tell me to take it and leave you (whether you have some or not, doesn't really matter). I'm distracted and look up in the direction you tell me it's at and you take the opportunity to kick me in the stomach and knock the wind out of me. The distraction of the jewelry meant I didn't finish tying your hands and you pull them free and jump on me, still trying to catch my breath, and you turn me over onto my stomach and use some of the rope I've brought to tie me in a tight hogtie.

The other is that I actually do manage to get you in the trunk and drive off with you but you get free during the drive and when I stop at my hideout you jump out of the trunk on me. Due to the surprise, you're able to hold me down on my face and put your knee in my back and manage to get my hands behind me and tie them together with some of the rope I used on you and then you can do whatever you want at that point.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Sacrificiallove » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:07 pm

Lol, well thanks for the reply. Although, I would not need the element of surprise. I'd just beat you up right from the beginning. Lol.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Kyle » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:27 pm

Well if you believe it and like the story better go with that. I kind of like the second version of what I wrote myself.

I actually did think of making it where you somehow managed to knock me out or daze me with your hands tied and get free and tie me up then, but couldn't think of a way to make it very realistic in a short time.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Sacrificiallove » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:52 pm

Urgh, I just typed a response and then my internet crapped out on me. I hate it when that happens. Anyway, I know this sounds arrogant, and honestly, I've never had to fight anyone dangerous so I'm not totally sure, but based on the fact that I'm a brown belt in karate, I use a punching bag, I lift weights (yes, a lot heavier than five pounds), I'm not skinny (I weigh 150 and I'm five foot five), and I've give my dad bruises before when we were horsing around, I'd like to think that I'd have figured out a way to take you down before your hand even goes over my mouth. And I do fully believe that with a good kick in the stomach, you would be knocked out. My kicks are strong and stomachs are usually weak.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Canuck33 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:40 pm

Hey Sacrificiallove, you seem to have quite a high opinion of your physical prowess. I wouldn't say EVERYBODY has a weak stomach, though. I work out regularly and have developed a very hard, flat stomach. I also happen to have a black belt :wink:
Not to worry though; you're not really my type, being a gay male. However, I wouldn't mind being tied up by a girl, if she asked nicely.

Anyways, I'm not going to participate because I'm quite a bit older than eighteen (24, to be exact), and although I'm only 150 lbs, I think I could legitimately overtake you if I wanted, but I don't. It's so much more fun being the one tied up. :big:

Have fun!
Sorry I can't talk now, I'm a little tied up at the moment.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Sacrificiallove » Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:02 am

Well, you think you could overtake me, but you don't really know, do you? Then again, I don't know if I could overtake you or not, so I can't even say either.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Kyle » Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:42 pm

A story about a guy trying to kidnap you and getting tied up himself would make for a pretty good story.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Sacrificiallove » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:18 pm

Kyle wrote:A story about a guy trying to kidnap you and getting tied up himself would make for a pretty good story.

Indeed it would. Maybe I should write it someday. Thanks for the idea!

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Kyle » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:10 pm

I figured you'd like the idea. I thought about writing that one too here but decided I didn't want to be the one getting captured and bound this time. Maybe another time.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Sacrificiallove » Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:24 pm

Lol, I suppose that would get tiring. I can't believe I even asked this question though, because I'll be honest........I'd rather die than be kidnapped, so if someone tried, I'd probably fight so hard that the person trying to kidnap would shoot me or stab me or something. Like, I wouldn't stop struggling, no matter how much pain they put me in. I'd really rather die than something like that happen. So I would not stop fighting even if it got me killed. I know that sounds weird coming from someone on this site, but I would do anything to not let it happen. The only thing I wouldn't do is let someone else be killed. If there were two of us involved, then.....I guess I'd have to let it happen. And that would literally be the hardest thing I would ever have to do.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Kyle » Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:51 pm

It's a fantasy thing here. You can have a fantasy adventure without all the danger that goes with real kidnappings. Obviously nobody really wants to be kidnapped and except for those paralyzed by fear too much to do so I think we'd all fight in a real situation. I know if someone tried to do that with me one of us is probably going to die, and I would try my best to make sure it's not me.

I couldn't have ever really tried to kidnap someone either, whether I'd succeed or not.

This is probably a discussion for the TUGs Talk forum, but I would compare this to a lot of other types of games/fantasies, like childhood war games and that sort of thing. It's a way to have a bit of an adventure without all the terrible things that go with many real-life kidnappings like injury, rape, murder, PTSD, etc. Though having said all that, the impression I get from you here is you're pretty dominant and not really the kind that would like to be the victim in either case.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Sacrificiallove » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:07 pm

Kyle wrote:It's a fantasy thing here. You can have a fantasy adventure without all the danger that goes with real kidnappings. Obviously nobody really wants to be kidnapped and except for those paralyzed by fear too much to do so I think we'd all fight in a real situation. I know if someone tried to do that with me one of us is probably going to die, and I would try my best to make sure it's not me.

I couldn't have ever really tried to kidnap someone either, whether I'd succeed or not.

This is probably a discussion for the TUGs Talk forum, but I would compare this to a lot of other types of games/fantasies, like childhood war games and that sort of thing. It's a way to have a bit of an adventure without all the terrible things that go with many real-life kidnappings like injury, rape, murder, PTSD, etc. Though having said all that, the impression I get from you here is you're pretty dominant and not really the kind that would like to be the victim in either case.

Yeah, you're last sentence pretty much sums it up. The thing that scares me is that there's that tiny part of me that likes the idea of being tied up (that's the first time I've actually admitted that to someone on here) and that absolutely horrifies me. I mean, yeah, I get that a lot of women like it, and it doesn't have to be scary. But I like to dominant, I like to be in control, and I don't know why there's a part of me that doesn't want that. I'm like an uber-feminist and stuff, so I don't know why the heck this part of me exists. I do my best to bury that part of me deep, deep inside, but it keeps coming up. And it feels wrong to me. I don't think the idea of a woman being the submissive one in a relationship is bad, but for me, myself, and I, it feels wrong. So I don't get why I'm drawn to it, and why my body itself is telling me it likes the idea. It scares me, repulses me, and horrifies me that I can't get rid of it.

As far as in a real situation like that, if me or the kidnapper had to go, then yeah, I'd probably try to kill the guy. If he had a gun and I disarmed him and grabbed it, yeah, I might blow his head off. And if he's a lot strong than me, well, I guess that's where I tell myself that if I play fair I die, and I'd kick him in his freaking balls.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Kyle » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:37 pm

There've been a few discussions on this site about people feeling guilty or horrified at their interest in some part of all of this. The psychology of it is starting to get above my level of expertise. There are a lot of people who are strong or in charge who like to be the ones who are tied up.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby MHW » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:38 pm

Sounds like you've got some self-figuring to do. I wish you the best of luck

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Sacrificiallove » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:41 pm

Yeah......the weird thing is.....according to wikipedia...we're all parapheliacs. I just wish I was one of those normal people who gets turned on by a naked man. Too bad all naked people horrify me. Like, I can barely stand to look at myself naked. Penises, vaginas, all that stuff........I feel like I'm going to puke whenever I see pictures of them. And even the idea of sex for me is kind of repulse. Like, I literally think there's something wrong with me.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Sacrificiallove » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:42 pm

MHW wrote:Sounds like you've got some self-figuring to do. I wish you the best of luck

Yeah. I know. Thanks.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby MHW » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:58 pm

Wrong? Maybe, or maybe not. Certainly not the regular mental stance, but that doesn't mean it's specifically 'wrong'. The important thing is being happy with yourself, whatever that includes.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Sacrificiallove » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:02 pm

MHW wrote:Wrong? Maybe, or maybe not. Certainly not the regular mental stance, but that doesn't mean it's specifically 'wrong'. The important thing is being happy with yourself, whatever that includes.

I suppose. I guess even if I'm afraid of naked people my whole life, I should be happy that I stayed a virgin until death. And I don't feel like me having a bondage fetish for tied up guys is wrong..........the fetish where I'm tied up, that feels wrong.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby MHW » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:06 pm

I think that at the end of it all, you should be happy that you did what you wanted to do, no matter if it included keeping your status quo or changing your mind for whatever reason. Of course, I also have no psychological training or background whatsoever, so I don't really know what I'm talking about.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Sacrificiallove » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:11 pm

Lol, yeah, it's all good though. I mean, really and truly, I'm still in the last stages of teenhood and am still figuring life out. Maybe in a few years time I'll know who the heck I am.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby MHW » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:13 pm

Sane thinking. I'm a few years out of teenhood and while I'm starting to really settle into myself now, I still find out things about me I didn't know fairly regularly. No need to commit to a life plan before you hit 2 decades, for sure.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby Sacrificiallove » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:25 pm

It's funny, cause I'm about to turn nineteen, and when I think about it, I feel old. But then you said the thing about not even having reached two decades and I was like, "Oh my gosh, I'm still really young." I guess it's just weird when you're in college and you're older than all the other freshmen (since my birthday's in October, I'm always one of the oldest) and I'm three years older than some of my youngest friends. But in reality, I am not that old I guess.

Re: How would you...well, you know

Postby MHW » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:30 pm

Exactly. I feel old too sometimes, at the ripe old age of 23 :P but when I go to work more then half of my coworkers are over 40. Kind of puts things in perspective pretty quickly