## Need help on making inescapable ties

Post by Matthewtheman » Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:39 pm

First of all, since this is my first post, and there doesn't seem to be an introductions section, I figure I might as well introduce myself. I'm a high school junior who's almost 17. My name is Matthew, as my username implies. I have two older sisters, and a little brother. Each of us is two apart from the next, e.g. I'm 2 years older than my lil bro, 2 years younger than my younger older sister, etc. I don't have many bondage stories unfortunately. I do remember during a game we were playing, my oldest sister was a villain, and both cleave gagged and hogtied my other sister with a single long strip of cloth. I had to rescue her, as I was the hero. I don't remember much else. I do have a recent story that is the source of my question. But first, let me explain my interest in bondage. My biggest turn on is a pretty female being bound AND gagged. The and is important, as bondage alone does nothing for me, and a gag alone isn't as exciting if the woman could easily pull it off. The female part is important too, as is the attractive part, as an unatractive female b&g does nothing for me, as does tied up male, however, a gagged male is a straight up turn off. I think I first discovered this when I saw the scene of Marion bound and gagged in Raiders of the Lost Ark when I was a toddler. Other big turn ons for me are bare midriffs and girl on girl. When binding and gagging is combined with either or both of those turn-ons, it's especially exciting. As far as S&M goes, as long as it includes a pretty lady being bound and gagged, and isn't excessively gory(excessive gore makes me squeamish), it's still a turn on. I'd like to someday tie up & gag a pretty girl, but I've never done so out of fear of retaliation, as I'm scared of being on the recieving end of a tie up. Hopefully I'll one day meet a pretty girl who likes to be gagged and bound, and wants to be with me.
Now, on to my predicament. So weeks ago, in chemistry, my friend challenged me to see if I could tie his hands inescapably. I grabbed rope I found in a drawer. I was gonna tie them behind his back, for extra challenge, but he refused, so I instead made him agree not to chew on the ropes. I tied his hands in front of him, and immediately realized how bad I tied him. He immediately started to work the ropes free, and I knew he'd won the moment he started. It took him a while, not because escape was hard(it wasn't), but because it was a long length of rope. How can I tie his hands so he won't escape?

### Re: Need help on making inescapable ties

Post by drawscore » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:54 pm

If the hands are tied in front, it's damned near impossible to tie someone so they can't escape. And, if your friend challenged you to tie him with his hands in front, he probably had something else on his mind, like "If you can't do it, I get to tie you up."
That being said, perhaps some terms and conditions are in order, like he must escape within X number of minutes, and if he fails, then you win.
Since escape is almost inevitable, you need to make it as difficult as possible. To do that, first cross his hands in front of him,and tie them together. Then, make him sit on the edge of a bed or chair, and tie his ankles, then tie his legs halfway between the knees and hips.
Run a rope from his ankles above the leg tie, over the tied hands, then below the leg tie, and back to the ankles. Perhaps the attached photo will give you a better idea.

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### Re: Need help on making inescapable ties

Post by Matthewtheman » Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:41 pm

You say 'tie his hands', 'tie his legs', etc. but don't tell me how. 'What knot should I use', 'where should I knot it', etc. are questions you leave unanswered. I'm a novice when it comes to tying up, so I need more detail. And I don't think he was looking to tie me up if I failed, since this happened many weeks ago(maybe even a month by now) and I failed, and I did not get tied up at any point since then(or ever, for that matter, a record I hope to mantain for life).

### Re: Need help on making inescapable ties

Post by drawscore » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:47 pm

Usually, for tying someone's hands, you use quarter inch cotton clothesline and square knots. Use 6-8 feet on the hands, wrap across 3-4 times, then up and down, also 3-4 times, and tie the ends together with a square knot. Simple and easy, and they don't slip unless uneven pressure is applied to them.
For the ankles, start with a length of rope 10-15 feet long, tie a slip knot in one end, and leave four inches of tail. Slip it over the ankles, pull it tight, wrap it as many times as the length allows, and tie the ends together with a square knot.
To effectively learn the techniques, requires "hands on" training, and you'd have to find someone close to where you live, to help you out. But once you learn, it's like riding a bicycle. You don't forget how to do it, no matter how old you get.
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### Re: Need help on making inescapable ties

Post by Matthewtheman » Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:39 pm

All right. Which type of slip knot should I use? Be sure to include a picture demonstrating how to tie it. I already know how to tie a reef knot(AKA square knot), so no need to tell me how to do that.

### Re: Need help on making inescapable ties

Post by drawscore » Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:08 pm

A slip knot does what the name implies, It slips.
https://www.netknots.com/rope_knots/slip-knot/
http://www.animatedknots.com/slip/index ... =LogoGrog..
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Tie-a-Slip-Knot/
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### Re: Need help on making inescapable ties

Post by tony2 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:44 am

Matt, it sounds like you're getting good advice. Another place to look is you tube and aa couple of guys who present themselves as "knotie boys" or something like that. They have a number of bondage knot videos they have done and it's easier to follow than a book.
As a tip, if you don't have that much rope, have him take off his shirt or roll the sleeves up to his biceps. You want the friction created by direct skin contact to be working for you.
Then tie his elbows together above the joint. If you really want to freak him out, overlay the rope with duct tape, pressing out as much air space as you can.
Neither hand can reach the rope and neither can the mouth. When he gives up, just tell him it is an aloha from Hawaii as you stroll out of the room.
If you believe in yourself enough -
nobody else will figure out you're faking it.
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### Re: Need help on making inescapable ties

Post by xtc » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:26 am

"Two knotty Boys" As Tony says, lots of stuff there.
Boxer shorts are cool,
but little speedos rule!
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### Re: Need help on making inescapable ties

Post by tony2 » Fri May 02, 2014 2:30 am

  Remote Ice Timer

Attach the string with a thumbtack over your poor trussed or chained up body. The anchor string is buried in a glass of ice cubes with the key or knife or playboy bunny photo (hey, whatever works for you, eh?) hanging from the string just outside the glass. Ice melts. Nothing to hold it in place. keys magically appear dangling in front of your nose. Until it releases, you can't get across the room to the key.
Have fun you all!
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### Re: Need help on making inescapable ties

Post by EricU1845 » Fri May 02, 2014 3:01 am

> tony2 wrote:
> Attach the string with a thumbtack over your poor trussed or chained up body. The anchor string is buried in a glass of ice cubes with the key or knife or playboy bunny photo (hey, whatever works for you, eh?) hanging from the string just outside the glass. Ice melts. Nothing to hold it in place. keys magically appear dangling in front of your nose. Until it releases, you can't get across the room to the key.
> Have fun you all!

That's actually kind of genius. Never thought of that. I might just have to try it

### Re: Need help on making inescapable ties

Post by tony2 » Fri May 02, 2014 4:50 pm

after a couple years or so with an evil housemate, I assure you it works. Notice his sense of humor? He HAD to use an insulated, prefrozen beer glass. Tied in a ball to the pipe on the opposite wall with no light, time passed S L O W L Y. (grin)
If you believe in yourself enough -
nobody else will figure out you're faking it.
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### Re: Need help on making inescapable ties

Post by Vakira » Sun May 04, 2014 2:12 pm

I have that same shirt!
The only thing I've been able to to make inescapable ties is using cable ties. Get some padding for the wrists and when they close up on you, they are totally unbreakable. Unless you have someone else tying you who is expert, I don't see how you can do it with rope.

### Re: Need help on making inescapable ties

Post by Kyle » Sun May 04, 2014 3:39 pm

You can actually break zip ties too, but it's very hard if you don't know what you're doing. There are videos on Youtube of it and I've done it myself, and believe me, it is not as easy as they make it look.
For the average person, they are nearly inescapable without something to cut them off, and yes, they will absolutely destroy your skin if you don't put something on to protect your wrists and you spend very much time in them trying to get free.