A Sense of Humor

Postby drawscore » Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:45 pm

The election, in my opinion, was a disaster for America, but never let it be said that I don't have a sense of humor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1okb5EIo1nw

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Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby mistofoleese » Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:19 pm

drawscore wrote:The election, in my opinion, was a disaster for America, but never let it be said that I don't have a sense of humor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1okb5EIo1nw

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To back up drawscore I add this , as it brings back fond memories for me I swear my OWN grandparents acted exactly like this
We need this guy back ! w.youtube.com/watch?v=oV5LQcmuGg8ww

Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby Jason Toddman » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:17 pm

I fail to see how your Hee-Haw clip was even remotely relevant, Drawscore. Humorous yes (I watched this show myself - 40 years ago); relevant no.
Mistofoleese, your attempted link does not work.
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Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby drawscore » Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:01 pm

Jason, if you don't get it, it would be impossible to explain it to you. Maybe someone else would like to give it a try.

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Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby Jason Toddman » Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:39 pm

Oh, I 'get' it all right; you're comparing Obama winning a second term with the sorrows these guys sang about in their skit (a regular feature on the show).
Personally I feel that Bush getting a second term was a better reason for comparison, and felt so at the time too. I think Obama has a long, long way down to go before his two terms are anywhere near as disastrous for this country as Bush's two terms were.
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Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby drawscore » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:29 am

Obama has already reached that point. When Bush was re-elected in 2004, residents of 20 states were not petitioning his administration to allow them to peacefully secede. And it's not just Texas and Louisiana, and other 11 states of the old Confederacy. North and South Dakota are among them, too, along with Kansas and Nebraska.

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Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby Jason Toddman » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:55 am

Your point only reflects the bigotry of ignorant people in those states who can't stand the idea of a black man being president, whether you realize it or not.
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Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby drawscore » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:40 pm

Did it occur to you, that it's his ideas and policies, like ObamaCare; scandals, like "Fast and Furious" and Benghazi; the appointment of an avowed communist (Van Jones, since resigned); the blocking of the Keystone Pipeline, which cost thousands of jobs, and during a time when gas was (and still is) over $3.00 a gallon; his claiming credit for the killing of bin Laden; and increasing the national debt to over 16 trillion dollars, just might have something to do with it?

Just because we (conservatives) disagree with him, does not make us racists, any more than my standing in a garage makes me a car. Your statement lacks credibility. You have thrown out a charge that we are racists, with only anecdotal evidence, if you have any evidence at all.

Do some people hate the idea of a black president? Hell yes, and I'd be lying if I said otherwise. But please try and comprehend the fact that for more than 90% of us, we don't give two hoots in hell about his skin color. We deeply love this country, and we disagree vehemently with the direction in which he is taking us.

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Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby Jason Toddman » Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:34 pm

And did it ever occur to YOU that maybe he had good reason for some of his policies? The pipeline would have gone through ecologically sensitive areas and deprived many lawn-owners of their property thru eminent domain, and a leak would have made the Gulf of Mexico oil spill seem like nothing more than an ink blot. He got the credit for Osama because he made the decision; had Bush been in his place and made the call I'll bet you'd be pissed someone else got the credit then! He raised the deficit to help fix all the mistakes Bush created (including his own raises in the deficit); if he hadn't, the economy would likely have been far worse now than it is - something that is widely known but ignored by you conservatives.
Just because you (conservatives) disagree with him, does not make you racists. True. I never said it did. But then I never said you were racists only because you disagree with him. I call you racists because of many other things - just as calls to deport him back to Kenya, demands that he be impeached before he even took office, and so on. Not white man, even an actual socialist, has ever not would never have been treated with the disrespect Obama has had to put up with in office. Even if you think he is a liar (and name one president who never lied other than George Washington!), shouting "You Lie!" right to his face in public should never have been condoned (let alone approved of in conservative circles). One last thing, I never said or implied ALL conservatives are racists (or at least talk like racists). But a good many prominent ones obviously are, including O'Reilly, Coulter, Trump, Limbaugh, and a good many others. I can document this thoroughly if you insist on it. But I never said YOU are, or even most average conservative everyday citizens. You're the one who harps on that... not me.
You say, We deeply love this country, and we disagree vehemently with the direction in which he is taking us. Well, the same is true of those of use who disagreed with George Bush Jr. Did you ever care about that? He drove us over a cliff; it takes a lot more time and effort to climb out of a deep hole than it does to fall into it, but conservatives have been trying to drag us back down into it from Day One of Obama's presidency... and then blame him for not getting us out of it!
So... where's your sense of humor now?
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Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby drawscore » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:13 pm

It is said that engaging in a public argument with a fool, is not wise, as those observing will not be able to tell the difference.

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Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby Jason Toddman » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:27 pm

Well said, but which of us is the fool? I'm sure you have one opinion, while I have a different one.
Perhaps we'd both be right, as both views would not necessarily be mutually exclusive.
Perhaps someone else would like to comment at this point and venture their own opinion on the matter.
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Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby Jason Toddman » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:48 pm

drawscore wrote:Obama has already reached that point. When Bush was re-elected in 2004, residents of 20 states were not petitioning his administration to allow them to peacefully secede. And it's not just Texas and Louisiana, and other 11 states of the old Confederacy. North and South Dakota are among them, too, along with Kansas and Nebraska.

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Actually I just fact checked this assertion and have found that you are wrong - well, not quite accurate anyway. Similar petitions were filed following the 2004 election (and, yes, the 2008 election as well) when Bush won his second term. That only shows however that dissatisfied people cross political lines as well as state boundaries. I haven't been able to determine relative numbers for such requests (or how many states were involved) in past election years however. Here's a news event concerning the current effort however.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/sec ... 10006.html
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Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby Chris12 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:50 pm

Did it occur to you, that it's his ideas and policies, like ObamaCare

If even part of a reason a state wants to secede is that your actually getting something resembling real health care then something is very wrong it that state.

Benghazi

You mean where they helped get ridd of a mad dictator without a full scale invasion or occupying the country? Americans actually did some good there and avoided the mistakes made in the last times you tried to ''help''. Or do you mean the ambassador bombing? that would have happened no matter who was sitting in the white house.

the appointment of an avowed communist

Oh, i doubt that. Seriously, i don't think Communist means what you think it means.


his claiming credit for the killing of bin Laden

Did he claim he kicked down the door of Bin Ladens bedroom and personally knocked his skull open? No, no he didn't so i don't see anything wrong with the statement. A statement any leader would have made if Bin laden was killed when they where in power.

(and name one president who never lied other than George Washington!)


Oh, i'm sure he lied once in his live :big:

Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby Jason Toddman » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:42 am

Chris12 wrote:
(and name one president who never lied other than George Washington!)


Oh, i'm sure he lied once in his live :big:

That caveat was meant as a joke. Common legend in this country has it that George Washington could never tell a lie (at least, he supposedly admitted it when he was a kid and cut down his father's cherry tree). I just didn't want DS saying it himself as a comeback.
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Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby Jack Roper » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:13 pm

Funny how the heading on the post so quickly degenerates.

Speaking of a sense of humor, did you hear David Letterman's joke on David Petrais? ""He was having sex with his biographer. Now, the only one he'll have sex with will be his autobiographer."

Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby drawscore » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:10 pm

The election is over, the talking is done.
My party lost, your party won.
So, lets be friends, let arguments pass.
I'll hug my elephant, you kiss your ass. :big:

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Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby drawscore » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:51 pm

>>>Well said, but which of us is the fool?<<<

Not my decision to make, although I do have my own opinion.

>>>Similar petitions were filed following the 2004 election (and, yes, the 2008 election as well) when Bush won his second term.<<<

True, but they were not reported on, or even mentioned in the mainstream media.

>>>If even part of a reason a state wants to secede is that your actually getting something resembling real health care then something is very wrong it that state.<<<

"If you think health care is expensive now, wait 'til it's free."

>>>>>>the appointment of an avowed communist<<<<<<
>>>Oh, i doubt that. Seriously, i don't think Communist means what you think it means.<<<

What it "means" is immaterial. It's what is true. Van Jones was, and as far as I know, still is, a card-carrying member of the Communist Party USA. Think I'm wrong? Google it.

>>>Did he claim he kicked down the door of Bin Ladens bedroom and personally knocked his skull open? No, no he didn't so i don't see anything wrong with the statement. A statement any leader would have made if Bin laden was killed when they where in power.<<<

Go back and read the transcript of his speech, or look at the video. I'm sure it's up on YouTube. He used the pronouns "I" and "me" a lot. Then compare that with Bush II at Ground Zero. He was using the pronouns "we" and "us" in his speech.

>>>Or do you mean the ambassador bombing? that would have happened no matter who was sitting in the white house.<<<

The embassy and the consulate requested help well before the attack, but it never came. Obama (according to some reports) was watching the events unfold in the White House Situation Room. When the attack came, help was less than an hour away, at the American air base at Aviano, and the Sigonella Naval Air Station, both in Italy. Obama sat on his ass and did nothing, and the next day, went to a fund raiser in Las Vegas.

>>>(and name one president who never lied other than George Washington!)<<<

How about William Henry Harrison. (On March 4, 1841, he gave a 3+ hour inauguration speech in the teeth of inclement weather on the capitol steps, caught pneumonia, and died a month after taking office. He didn't have time to lie about anything.)

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Re: A Sense of Humor

Postby Jason Toddman » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:27 pm

>>>Well said, but which of us is the fool?<<<
<<<Not my decision to make, although I do have my own opinion.>>>
Well, duh. Can't you be more original? That's exactly what I said!!! :P

>>>Similar petitions were filed following the 2004 election (and, yes, the 2008 election as well) when Bush won his second term.<<<
<<<True, but they were not reported on, or even mentioned in the mainstream media.>>>
Gee, why not if the mainstream media leans as far to the left as you claim it does? In any case these are a few thousand disgruntled nut-jobs, not a groundswell of popular opinion.

>>>If even part of a reason a state wants to secede is that your actually getting something resembling real health care then something is very wrong it that state.<<<
<<<If you think health care is expensive now, wait 'til it's free.">>>
You seem to have the delusion it isn't. Just go to the emergency room with no proof of insurance. They have to take care of you whether you can pay or not. Afterward, well, it's free! :twisted: In MY case in fact because I'd been ill a while when I had my cancer operation the hospital had to eat my $65,000 medical bill... and pass on the cost to everyone else! (Sorry!) Now, with Obamacare, they wouldn't have had to do that! They'd have gotten something to show for it. So in the long run which is really more expensive to the rest of you?

>>>>>>the appointment of an avowed communist<<<<<<
>>>Oh, i doubt that. Seriously, i don't think Communist means what you think it means.<<<
<<<What it "means" is immaterial. It's what is true. Van Jones was, and as far as I know, still is, a card-carrying member of the Communist Party USA. Think I'm wrong? Google it.>>>
I have. Except for numerous blogs all spouting the same charge without citing sources, I can find no factual account where (or when) Van Jones actually says this - not even in the Wikipedia articles about him. Instead I find out about Glenn Beck's virtual war of words with him and so forth; nothing even remotely factual or reliable aboiut any communist ties. Other controversies such as his support for some death-row inmate and concerning some petition claiming Bush orchestrated 9/11 were far better documented however. Seems to be sticking with real facts are sufficiently damning to him anyway. Why reach for something like Communism that seems to exist only in the minds of various right-wing bloggers?

>>>Did he claim he kicked down the door of Bin Ladens bedroom and personally knocked his skull open? No, no he didn't so i don't see anything wrong with the statement. A statement any leader would have made if Bin laden was killed when they where in power.<<<
<<<Go back and read the transcript of his speech, or look at the video. I'm sure it's up on YouTube. He used the pronouns "I" and "me" a lot. Then compare that with Bush II at Ground Zero. He was using the pronouns "we" and "us" in his speech.>>>
Non sequitar; your facts are un-coordinated. The subject at hand is a completely different one and does not involve a decision Bush himself was actually making or claiming responsibility for.

>>>Or do you mean the ambassador bombing? that would have happened no matter who was sitting in the white house.<<<
<<<The embassy and the consulate requested help well before the attack, but it never came. Obama (according to some reports) was watching the events unfold in the White House Situation Room. When the attack came, help was less than an hour away, at the American air base at Aviano, and the Sigonella Naval Air Station, both in Italy. Obama sat on his ass and did nothing, and the next day, went to a fund raiser in Las Vegas.>>>
I think there are some distortions here too - "according to some reports" sounds fishy to me; especially coming from you. Anyway, Chris was right; it would have happened regardless of who was in the White House. After all, it was Bush who was President on 9/11, and there's a lot of evidence of negligence on his part as well before and after. So if you want to point fingers there's plenty of blame to pass around for the both of them.

>>>(and name one president who never lied other than George Washington!)<<<
<<<How about William Henry Harrison. (On March 4, 1841, he gave a 3+ hour inauguration speech in the teeth of inclement weather on the capitol steps, caught pneumonia, and died a month after taking office. He didn't have time to lie about anything.)>>>
It's said he lied in bed. :mrgreen:
Okay, bad joke, but if he'd had any sense he'd have dressed for the occasion. By all accounts he was way under-dressed for the weather.
Admittedly i should have thought of that one, but in one sense he DID lie - in his (overlong) inaugural address he promised to do many things. Harrison promised to reestablish the Bank of the United States and extend its capacity for credit by issuing paper currency (Henry Clay's American System); to defer to the judgment of Congress on legislative matters, with sparing use of his veto power; and to reverse Jackson's spoils system of executive patronage. He promised to use patronage to create a qualified staff, not to enhance his own standing in government. Since he died first, technically he lied. Technically.
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