## Does anyone know the name of this tie?

Post by Vulture » Wed May 21, 2014 3:26 pm

This is my favourite tie but I don't know the name of it.
The tie is simply binding hand to shoulder and foot to waist, this tie allows the slave to crawl but not use their hands or feet.
Just like this http://excilion.deviantart.com/art/On-fours-303527873
Thanks ^-^

### Re: Does anyone know the name of this tie?

Post by Jason Toddman » Wed May 21, 2014 9:24 pm

I don't know the name of the tie, but I doubt such a tie is even possible on most people without tearing some of their ligaments and suffering massive muscle damage in the process; at least while supporting themselves on their elbows and knees like that.
Have you thought to ask the artist who actually drew that picture what the name of that tie is? They'd most likely know.
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### Re: Does anyone know the name of this tie?

Post by Vulture » Thu May 22, 2014 2:00 am

I used to do gymnastics and ballet, I can be tied like this for quite a long time with no problem. I'll ask the artist.

### Re: Does anyone know the name of this tie?

Post by OldTUGger » Thu May 22, 2014 2:42 am

If those were done with rope instead of tape, they would be referred to as "futomoto" (frog leg) ties by practitioners of Japanese rope bondage (also known as kinbaku or shibari). I have tied women that way (albeit for brief periods only) with no ill effects.
Although I myself am not into that sort of thing, I understand that the tie is sometime used by people who like pet play to turn a submissive into a "puppy."

### Re: Does anyone know the name of this tie?

Post by Jason Toddman » Thu May 22, 2014 7:38 am

> Vulture wrote:I used to do gymnastics and ballet, I can be tied like this for quite a long time with no problem. I'll ask the artist.

I did say most people. My point being one had better be very limber and healthy before engaging in such a tie. I imagine someone into ballet has the needed limberness however. I, on the other hand, definitely do not.
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### Re: Does anyone know the name of this tie?

Post by Antonius97 » Thu May 22, 2014 12:25 pm

> Jason Toddman wrote:I don't know the name of the tie, but I doubt such a tie is even possible on most people without tearing some of their ligaments and suffering massive muscle damage in the process; at least while supporting themselves on their elbows and knees like that.

I don't think it's that improbable. The angles are a bit more extreme than most people could probably manage, but slightly looser bindings would probably make that do-able. I've actually managed to do something similar to myself with ACE bandages (legs only, for obvious reasons).
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### Re: Does anyone know the name of this tie?

Post by Jason Toddman » Thu May 22, 2014 1:05 pm

It's not the way the arms and legs are folded I question so much as a person's ability to stand upright on their elbows and knees in the fashion shown in the drawing. I would think that would be both painful and difficult. And unsafe too.
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### Re: Does anyone know the name of this tie?

Post by tony2 » Thu May 22, 2014 2:58 pm

> Jason Toddman wrote:It's not the way the arms and legs are folded I question so much as a person's ability to stand upright on their elbows and knees in the fashion shown in the drawing. I would think that would be both painful and difficult. And unsafe too.

For us old guys, just looking at the picture makes me think where I left the lineament.
However, for those under 25 there is another consideration that may not reveal damage for many years later. Both the Knee area and the elbow area are two of the remaining soft and still growing parts of the skeleton and being softer, the potential for damage is higher. Likewise, the tendon and cartilage mix supporting the kneecap was not designed to withstand that kind of direct pressure.
Sooo --- tie 'em that way and leave them on the bed to have fun with.
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### Re: Does anyone know the name of this tie?

Post by Vulture » Sat May 24, 2014 3:46 pm

> tony2 wrote:

> > Jason Toddman wrote:It's not the way the arms and legs are folded I question so much as a person's ability to stand upright on their elbows and knees in the fashion shown in the drawing. I would think that would be both painful and difficult. And unsafe too.

> For us old guys, just looking at the picture makes me think where I left the lineament.
> However, for those under 25 there is another consideration that may not reveal damage for many years later. Both the Knee area and the elbow area are two of the remaining soft and still growing parts of the skeleton and being softer, the potential for damage is higher. Likewise, the tendon and cartilage mix supporting the kneecap was not designed to withstand that kind of direct pressure.
> Sooo --- tie 'em that way and leave them on the bed to have fun with.
> have fun, play safe.

That's where the onesie comes in (I mentioned it in one of my stories - I wear a onesie when doing this tie), I modified it by folding the arms and legs in and sewing it so I have padding on my elbows and knees

### Re: Does anyone know the name of this tie?

Post by Ranlar » Sun May 25, 2014 5:29 am

> OldTUGger wrote:If those were done with rope instead of tape, they would be referred to as "futomoto" (frog leg) ties by practitioners of Japanese rope bondage (also known as kinbaku or shibari). I have tied women that way (albeit for brief periods only) with no ill effects.
> Although I myself am not into that sort of thing, I understand that the tie is sometime used by people who like pet play to turn a submissive into a "puppy."

He is right though normally in the bondage world the frog tie is usually just the legs bound. But I to have some photo shoots that bound the arms in the same fashion. Not comfortable to walk on at all and likely not acheiveable for more then a couple of 'steps' befor the body started to protest but it can be done.