Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby SuaveDragon » Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:15 pm

I need some ideas for self bondage that can safely be used around the neck area. Any ideas?

Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby Kyle » Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:39 pm

Anything around the neck has the potential to be dangerous due to being a choking hazard.

Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby wolfzero » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:05 pm

Something that doesn't apply pressure to the neck, but just restrict its movement, like a medical brace or some leather collars. The most dangerous thing is not suffocation but cutting the blood flow to the brain as a mayor vein and artery go trough its side, cut the flow and you will faint in seconds and die if the pressure is not relieved immediately.

Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby SuaveDragon » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:26 am

I don't own any braces or collars. I need a form of self-bondage that uses rope but won't choke me. I honestly like the idea of tightly being incased in a cardboard box with my head sticking out, but the cardboard scratches my hair and I can't get into the box on my own. Any other ideas, like with rope (that hopefully won't strangle me)?

Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby SamanthaBoundx » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:26 am

There are NO circumstances under which tying something tightly around your neck - whether you are on your own or with someone else - is safe. I have a friend who died after trying to pull off a practical joke doing something similar. It isn't worth it. If asphyxiation is your thing, just hold your breath.

Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby Fesselfan » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:18 am

Wolfzero already pointed out the major danger in "neck things", but you seem to ignore it.
Simply leave your neck alone, especially when there is no one around to help you (i.E: selfbondage).
Cutting the blood flow to the brain is a *really* bad idea, doing so for more than a few seconds even more so.
When you exhaust your body, your neck even can inflate. Not much- but when there is something tight around it, enough to cut the blood flow.
So in a SB session this could mean you simply pass out while trying to struggle in your bounds...and it's likely you will never wake up again.

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Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby SuaveDragon » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:55 pm

Asphyxia is not my thing, otherwise I wouldn't have asked if anyone knew any safe variations of neck bondage. I like to take risks but I'm not willing to be choked to death. I just thought that if I posted this, someone might have discovered a safe rope knot to use. If that's not the case, then okay then.

Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby wolfzero » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:25 pm

If you just want to restrict your neck movement, just but a leather collar, they come with metal hooks on the back if you want to incorporate some sort of rope or chain, but stay away from rope alone from your neck, its not the knot that's dangerous, its the uneven pressure the rope applies to your neck.

Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby captain21z » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:41 am

Okay, you asked, and I'll tell you. There are NO safe ways to use bondage on your neck, period, unless you're being supervised (unless somebody is there with you at all times). Anybody who uses unsupervised self-bondage that involves looping something around their neck or stomach that isn't easily broken----anything that can constrict and inhibit or stop breathing-----is asking to die. Medical braces don't work. If you pass out in the wrong position, and the brace moves and pushes up against the front of your neck, you're history. Do NOT use real bondage on your neck unless somebody is there to monitor it!

That said, I think you're going to keep asking about it anyway until you get a "yes" answer, so here's how you can safely satisfy your desire. Cut a long strip from thin crepe paper (the kind that easily tears) that's colored the same as a leather strap, rope, or such would be colored. Do not roll it up or otherwise reinforce it. Color or draw on it to resemble whatever it is you want to roleplay being around your neck. Tape it around your neck, leaving enough room to insert at least two fingers. Add a rope or tape or whatever to it to suit your fancy. Pretend it's something with more body to it. You may have to be a bit gentle while moving your neck/head so you don't break the paper, but you can compensate for that by roleplaying being afraid of moving your head/neck so that the "noose" doesn't tighten. This way, if you should pass out or otherwise put pressure on the crepe paper, it will break harmlessly. You may have to make new ones frequently, because crepe paper tears easily, but you can buy more crepe paper. You can't buy a new life.

Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby SuaveDragon » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:46 am

You all have made your points, and therefore I will simply ask this: since rope alone will kill me, what is the best way to make a posture collar out of household supplies that is safe and won't damage the back of my hair?

Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby cellofello » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:53 pm

captain21z wrote:Okay, you asked, and I'll tell you. There are NO safe ways to use bondage on your neck, period, unless you're being supervised (unless somebody is there with you at all times). Anybody who uses unsupervised self-bondage that involves looping something around their neck or stomach that isn't easily broken----anything that can constrict and inhibit or stop breathing-----is asking to die.


How right you are. I just got back from the fifth funeral I've attended in the last two years of a friend who fell asleep while wearing a necktie. I warned them and I warned them, but they just didn't listen. I've been trying to get the Consumer Product Safety Commission to look into it, but they just smile patronizingly. I think the neckwear manufacturer's lobby has bribed them all. I'm going to write my Congressman.

Let's get real here. When you eat, do you always make sure someone is around to perform the Heimlich maneuver on you? After all, by your own logic, if you eat unsupervised you are just asking to die. You could swallow something wrong and choke to death!

Nothing is 100% safe. You should be aware of the risks, but you should also have a realistic idea of the size of the risk. Going back to my first example, how many people do you really know who have died from falling asleep while wearing a tie? None? And yet a necktie can constrict! So logically, isn't a buckling leather collar even safer? Not 100% safe, but safer?

You can go through life worrying about how to eliminate every possible risk of dying. But it seems to me that you'd be living a life so devoid of fun that you might as well be dead. The question should not be, "Is this 100% safe?" but rather "Is this safe enough?"

I know that SuaveDragon said he (she?) doesn't own a collar, but a leather dog collar isn't that hard or expensive to come by. If you can't find one large enough, get two. Don't buckle it very tight; even with an inch of slack you can feel restrained. You could, for example, lie on a bed and use ropes to connect the leash loop to the bed somehow - again, not as tight as you can possibly make it, but so that the range of motion of your head is somewhat limited.c
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Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby Jay Feely » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:43 pm

There are places where you should never use restraints on, and the neck is one of them.

Restraining the neck could lead to suffocation and then death. I suggest you do not do it.
You will have to subdue me to restrain me. I been a bad boy so make sure you torture me too with anything but pain.

Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby SamanthaBoundx » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:52 am

SuaveDragon wrote:You all have made your points, and therefore I will simply ask this: since rope alone will kill me, what is the best way to make a posture collar out of household supplies that is safe and won't damage the back of my hair?


Again, sorry to put a damper on your fantasy, but a home made collar is probably also a very bad idea. The pofessional medical/bondage collars are designed with the materials and structures specifically so it will be safe - anything you can make at home simply won't have that. I would steer clear of it.

If this is something that youre really into, then investing a fair amount of money in a real SAFE collar is the only reasonable option.

Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby SuaveDragon » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:02 pm

Okay, then let me ask this: can I make a set of stocks out of household items that will effectively restrict movement of my neck without killing me, or snagging my hair?

Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby snobound » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:02 pm

SuaveDragon wrote:Okay, then let me ask this: can I make a set of stocks out of household items that will effectively restrict movement of my neck without killing me, or snagging my hair?



Absolutely.... since stocks can't tighten on their own accord. Fixed dimensions. Just dont position your stocks so that you're forced to stand upright. Blacking out while tightly bound can and does happen- could be disasterous. There's been many, many deaths due to auto-erotic asphyxiation. Just ask David Carradine...... oh.... wait...
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Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby SuaveDragon » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:49 pm

Snobound, that doesn't really answer the question: can I make a set of working stocks out of household items?

Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby SamanthaBoundx » Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:46 am

I think what every single person who has posted on this thread is trying to say is. . .

LEAVE YOUR NECK ALONE IN SELF BONDAGE. WHATEVER METHOD YOU INTEND TO USE. WHATEVER MATERIALS YOU ARE GOING TO USE. DO NOT GO NEAR IT. IT IS DANGEROUS. UGH!

Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby SuaveDragon » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:22 pm

Allright, I will. You all have made your points and therefore I will listen. However, I have another TUG Talks topic that I could use some ideas from. If you would so kindly reply to that post, I would appreciate it. As for this page, its done.

Re: Safe Self Bondage Using the Neck

Postby ghgh » Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:48 am

Well for long term use, anything tied around the neck can be a hazard. Peronsally, I like tying a bandana folded into a band, tightly around my throat, but not so tight that I'm forcibly chocking myself. Just enough to make speech and breathng only slightly harder. Other then that, I say don't do it, or at least have supervision
A huge pokemon and cloth gag fan and a huge bandana adict.