## Venus Transits the Sun

Post by drawscore » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:51 pm

Images courtesy of NASA
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/nas ... 40865.html

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Post by Chase Ricks » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:56 pm

It was very nice to watch yesterday afternoon and evening when I had a few spare minutes available to be outside.
From whence I came and whence I went heaven said I was too evil and sent me to hell. Demons and devils succeeded in breaking my soul.

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Post by The Black Falcon » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:25 pm

Yeah, I barely missed it.
Happened on my birthday, too.
College student by day. Crime-fighting vigilante by night.

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Post by Jay Candice » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:11 pm

Aah, I miss everything.
In the end, it matters not how many breaths you took, but how many took your breath away.
-shing xiong
We are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction
-General Douglas MacArthur
Fall down seven times, stand up eight
-Japanese Proverb

### Re: Venus Transits the Sun

Post by sarobah » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:42 pm

As an astronomer this was of interest to me. But in addition, the transit of Venus is of significance all Australians. It was while in Tahiti to record the transit of 1769 that Captain James Cook opened the secret orders that led him to explore the east coast of Australia.
Here are some fun facts:-
Next transit of Mercury – 9 May, 2016
Next transit of Venus – 10 December 2117
Next transit of Mercury and Venus – 17 September 13,425
It will be worth the wait!
Words, like Nature, half reveal and half conceal the soul within.

### Re: Venus Transits the Sun

Post by Jay Candice » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:51 pm

That is, if humans don't blow themselves up by then.
In the end, it matters not how many breaths you took, but how many took your breath away.
-shing xiong
We are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction
-General Douglas MacArthur
Fall down seven times, stand up eight
-Japanese Proverb

### Re: Venus Transits the Sun

Post by drawscore » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:15 pm

They're rioting in Africa;
They're starving in Spain.
There's hurricanes in Florida,
And Texas needs rain.
The whole world is festering
With unhappy souls.
The Dutch hate the Germans;
The Germans hate the Poles;
South Africans hate the Yugoslavs,
And the Yugoslavs hate the Dutch;
And I don't like anybody very much!
But we can be thankful, and tranquil, and proud,
For man's been endowed with a mushroom-shaped cloud,
And it's pretty certain that some lovely day,
Someone will set the spark off, and we will all be blown away.
They're rioting in Africa;
There's strife in Iran.
What nature doesn't do to us
Will be done by our fellow man.
The Merry Minuet
The Kingston Trio
circa 1960
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### Re: Venus Transits the Sun

Post by sarobah » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:46 pm

I love how threads evolve!
The eastern world, it is exploding
Violence flarin’, bullets loadin’
You’re old enough to kill, but not for votin’
You don’t believe in war, but what’s that gun you’re totin’
And even the Jordan River has bodies floatin’
But you tell me
Over and over and over again, my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve of destruction.
Don’t you understand what I’m tryin’ to say
Can’t you feel the fears I’m feelin’ today?
If the button is pushed, there’s no runnin’ away
There’ll be no one to save, with the world in a grave.
Take a look around ya boy, it’s bound to scare ya boy
And you tell me
Over and over and over again, my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve of destruction.
Yeah, my blood’s so mad feels like coagulatin’
I’m sitting here just contemplatin’
I can’t twist the truth, it knows no regulation.
Handful of senators don’t pass legislation
And marches alone can’t bring integration
When human respect is disintegratin’
This whole crazy world is just too frustratin’
And you tell me
Over and over and over again, my friend
Ah, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve of destruction.
Think of all the hate there is in Red China
Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama
You may leave here for four days in space
But when you return, it’s the same old place
The poundin’ of the drums, the pride and disgrace
You can bury your dead, but don’t leave a trace
Hate your next-door neighbor, but don’t forget to say grace
And, tell me over and over and over and over again, my friend
You don’t believe
We’re on the eve
Of destruction.
No no, you don’t believe
We’re on the eve of destruction.
- Eve Of Destruction, written by P. F. Sloan, sung by Barry McGuire, 1965.
Words, like Nature, half reveal and half conceal the soul within.

### Re: Venus Transits the Sun

Post by drawscore » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:12 pm

And, of course, the reply - Dawn of Correction, by the Spokesmen, also 1965.
The western world has a common dedication
To keep free people from Red domination
And maybe you can't vote, boy, but man your battle stations
Or there'll be no need for votin' in future generations
So over and over again, you keep sayin' it's the end
But I say you're wrong, we're just on the dawn of correction
There are buttons to push in two mighty nations
But who's crazy enough to risk annihilation?
The buttons are there to ensure negotiation
So don't be afraid, boy, it's our only salvation
So over and over again, you keep sayin' it's the end
But I say you're wrong, we're just on the dawn of correction
You tell me that marches won't bring integration
But look what it's done for the voter registration
Be thankful our country allows demonstrations
Instead of condemnin', make some recommendations
I don't understand the cause of your aggravation
You mean to tell me, boy, it's not a better situation?
So over and over again, you keep sayin' it's the end
But I say you're wrong, we're just on the dawn of correction
You missed all the good in your evaluation
What about the things that deserve commendation?
Where there once was no cure, there's vaccination
Where there once was a desert, there's vegetation
Self-government's replacing colonization
What about the Peace Corp. organization?
Don't forget the work of the United Nations
So over and over again, you keep sayin' it's the end
But I say you're wrong, we're just on the dawn of correction
But I say you're wrong, we're just on the dawn of correction
So over and over again, you keep sayin' it's the end
But I say you're wrong, we're just on the dawn of correction
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### Re: Venus Transits the Sun

Post by drawscore » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:28 pm

Little known fact: Barry McGuire and Glenn Yarborough (Baby, the Rain Must Fall) got their starts performing with Randy Sparks and the New Christy Minstrels (Green Green; Saturday Night) in the early 60's.
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### Re: Venus Transits the Sun

Post by sarobah » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:57 pm

And P. F. Sloan, who wrote one of the most famous protest songs of the ʼsixties, also wrote that wonderful radical anthem One Piece Topless Bathing Suit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F72f-cjCnpU
:o)
Words, like Nature, half reveal and half conceal the soul within.

### Re: Venus Transits the Sun

Post by drawscore » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:26 am

I think I remember that. "She's only five years old." Maybe it was three. And a kinescope video, too. Wow. You don't see them very often.
(For those that don't know, a kinescope recording is made by filming a TV screen with a motion picture camera, usually 16mm. Early on, there were some synchronization problems, because electronic video runs at 30 frames a second, while motion picture film runs at 24 frames per second, which was why many programs were live in the early days of TV. The sync problem was resolved in the mid 50's, but there was still a whole lot of live TV up through the early 60's and the advent of video tape - which was 1 - 1.5 mil thick, like audio tape, but was 2-3 inches wide when first used in commercial TV. You could get an hour's worth of programming on a ten inch reel.)
Now, for all the REALLY old farts: http://oldfortyfives.com/DYRT.htm
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### Re: Venus Transits the Sun

Post by Nuclearo » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:54 pm

> Jay Candice wrote:That is, if humans don't blow themselves up by then.

No, the planets would still transit if that happens.
Unless the humans blow themselves up /that/ hard...
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Post by truly_trussed » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:26 am

To Sarobah and Drawscore thanks for taking me down memory lane with Solid Gold to Make You Feel Old! Both hits charted in 1965 and I believe all the performers on the records are still with us 47 years later. In the early to mid 60s quite a few answer records to big hits charted. There was He'll Have to Go by Jim Reeves followed by He'll Have to Stay by Jeanne Black. Sausage magnate Jimmy Dean had a mega hit in '61 with Big Bad John. Radio DJ (Presenter to those in the UK) Phil McLean answered with Small Sad Sam. Roger Miller had his biggest hit in '65 with King Of The Road. Country singer Jody Miller (no relation) answered with her biggest pop hit Queen Of The House.
1965 was the birth of Folk/Rock. Bob Dylan was booed at the Newport Folk Festival by purists when he performed with an electric guitar. The Byrds hit number 1 with Dylan's Mr. Tambourine Man. Simon and Garfunkel's career took off when The Sounds of Silence album track was released as a single with an electric guitar track added. Paul was in London when a record executive called and told him to get back together with Art as he had the number 1 record in the US. His reaction was "Yeh, right!"
Barry MCGuire's Eve of Destruction went to number1 in the US and Canada and number 3 in the UK. That's remarkable considering many radio stations banned it because they thought it too controversial. The Spokesmen's answer record The Dawn of Correction hit number 36 in the US and number 18 in Canada. It did not chart in the UK. The Spokesmen were a one-hit wonder who consisted of songwriters Johnny Madara and Dave White (At The Hop, You Don't Own Me and others) and Philly radio DJ Ray Gilmore. He later worked in Top 40 radio under the name Sean Casey.
I know we're getting a tad OT but I just can't help but share my knowledge of Rock and Roll History. I hope every rock fan out there gets to visit The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame + Museum in Cleveland at least once in his / her lifetime. As Philly DJ Jerry Blavat says, "Keep on Rockin' because you only rock once!"
As for Eve Of Destruction vs. The Dawn of Correction- putting politics aside- I'd say The Spokesmen's version was the catchier of the two. It's slightly more uptempo.

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Post by drawscore » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:36 pm

There were some lesser known folk artists earlier in the 60's. The Chad Mitchell Trio came out with "Lizzie Borden" in, I believe 1961, and a year or so later, charted 'The Marvelous Toy." Better known, were the Kingston Trio, the New Christy Minstrels, and Peter, Paul, and Mary. But if memory serves, we had the Limelighters, the Highwaymen, and a plethora of other groups.
Oh, yeah. The young 'uns won't remember these, but on the old US highway network (US 66; US 1; US 99, etc) which were dotted with "Burma Shave" couplets, a series of four or so signs in rhyme, ending with the sponsor's logo "Burma Shave." Google "Burma Shave" to see some of them.
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### Re: Venus Transits the Sun

Post by sarobah » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:31 am

I wish I had been alive during the sixties. Of course, that would now make me OLD!!! But it would be totally worth it.
~ Sarah
Words, like Nature, half reveal and half conceal the soul within.

### Re: Venus Transits the Sun

Post by truly_trussed » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:01 am

Sarah, with your brains and attitude perhaps you are reincarnated from that era. Of course the was no internet back then. Our "hobby" was very much out of the mainstream. Like many of us you might have thought yourself a freak of nature. You'd ask why do I enjoy the sensation of being bound and gagged and am I the only one in the world who does? Fortunately the technolgy changed and attitudes are slowly following. T.T.

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Post by sarobah » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:43 pm

Yes, there was a definite downside to the good old days (of the sixties), including less tolerance of “non-mainstream” lifestyles. And for all the negatives associated with the internet, it is hard to imagine what life was like without it. Of course, I’m sure a million years ago the young generation of Homo Erectus couldn’t imagine what life was like before fire.
As a pessimist, I wonder if anyone will be around to witness the next transit of Venus… or if humans still exist, they will be too busy throwing rocks and faeces at each other.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiD2CGkoNts
Words, like Nature, half reveal and half conceal the soul within.

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Post by xtc » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:02 pm

Hang on, Drawscore; The Kingston Trio? Weren't they a bit . . . um . . . Soci****t?
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### Re: Venus Transits the Sun

Post by drawscore » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:45 pm

> xtc wrote:Hang on, Drawscore; The Kingston Trio? Weren't they a bit . . . um . . . Soci****t?

Most of the folk groups of the 60's were, to a greater or lesser degree, tilted a bit toward the left. That doesn't mean some of their work shouldn't be appreciated and enjoyed. Peter, Paul, and Mary were notorious leftists, but I still liked "Leavin' on a Jet Plane," "Lemon Tree," and "Puff the Magic Dragon." Paul Stookey's "Wedding Song" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1v84WKC6Pg) is still one of the most popular and requested pieces of music played at weddings, nearly 50 years after it was first recorded.
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