## Nubby Question, but ehhh...why not?

Post by BoundJiraxys15 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:02 pm

I am pretty sure this question has been asked a thousand time on this forum, but I guess that I am going to ask anyway.
*clears throat*
When you are my age *cough15cough* it is already hard enough to find a friend who is into TUGs as much as you are. I only have one friend that is kind of into TUGs and a younger cousin who only does it to torture me for the hell of it xD. Anyways, I really wanna play TUGs with these two girl friends I have. They used to be tombboy's back in the elementary school days, but now they are young women...with their mischevious side lol. I remember I got close to it one time when one of them slept over, and it was 3 AM. I annoyed the fuck out of her until she started getting real pissed, so then I told her she could have retribution. She then said that she would tickle me. I replied but my parents are sleeping, and she said (since the Duct Tape was near by) that she was going to shut me up with Duct Tape. This was all coincidental, so I got excited, but then she decided nope, and in my head I was like WTF?
I want something like this to happen again xD. a Coincidental TUG, but how do I get my friends to Tie me up? I have seen suggestions that ask for challenges during the bondage scene of a movie, like "I bet you can't get out of that!" My friends could care less for that type of stuff tbh. What should I do? Annoy them lol? Tickle them (my two female friends) and say they can have retribution)?
What should I do? I am straight, 100%, I just don't like being bound and gagged by males THAT much...lol. How do I get one of my female friends to tie me up and gag me in a TUG? Or would it be best to not bother them?
Handgag me. Hogtie/Chairtie/Frogtie me in my bare feet. My dirty socks wadded up and shoved in my mouth secured by duct tape wrapped around my mouth, ballgag, or both. Nude or just in my skibby's. Tickle me, feminize me, I won't care.

### Re: Nubby Question, but ehhh...why not?

Post by Jason Toddman » Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:20 pm

It depends on how important their friendship is to you otherwise. IMHO bothering them into it is likely to backfire on you. Fail the first time and the second time you try it they're likely to figure out what you're trying to do (contrary to popular adolescent male opinion girls have brains and they can and DO figure such things out). That might actually be nice if the idea amuses them and they decide to go along with it; bad if the idea creeps them out too much.
I have one possible idea, but I've never tried it and can't guarentee how well it'd work. Make up what sounds like an appealing (but reasonably sane and safe) fantasy to you, flesh it out with the necessary detail, and then go to your friend when she's alone and in a good mood and ask her for advice (it may be a stereotype, but girls often DO like being asked for advice by a boy). You say you met a girl out of town (a cousin perhaps; but anyone you won't have to prove the existence of) who said she'd like to (detail the fantasy here) and you don't know how you feel about it. Then you ask your friend what she would have done under the circumstances. If she sounds receptive enough, ask her if she'd do it to you to see ifyou want to let the other girl do it - because you trust HER (go slow and easy though and don't lay it on too thick). If she sounds ambivalent or disgusted by the notion, you'd be better off not to pester her about it EVER unless or until you have good reason to believe she has changed her mind.
Granted it's a bit of a deception, but it's one way to test the waters without committing yourself. She might or might not figure out ahead of time what you're up to but, if she really likes you, she will give you the benefit of the doubt. IMHO it's safer than asking her straight out and LOTS better than bugging her into some kind of retaliation (which might take a different and MUCH less plesant form than you are hoping for - such as making her avoid you).
If you try this at all, I can't tell you whether it's better to try with one girl at a time or both at the same time. Sometimes a person will be more amenable to TUGs experimentation when alone. Other people are more daring when they're with a friend (I'll do it if you do it). Only you can say (maybe) which is better with the friends you have in mind. But IMHO your chances are better if you come off as sounding like it's something you heard about, it sounds interesting, but you don't know yourself how to feel about it rather than it being something you are eager or even desperate to try out (which might come off as creepy to either or both of them). That way, even if you fail, they're less likely to change their opinion of you for the worse.
And of course if they wind up enjoying it, it'll be safer to say you enjoy it too - wanna do it again?
That's this old fogey's two cents' worth, anyway.
Good luck whatever happens. Hope you write to tell us all about it if it ever does happen.
Dare to be different... and make a difference.
To boldly go where no one in their right mind has gone before...

### Re: Nubby Question, but ehhh...why not?

Post by Scottstud94 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:34 pm

Heed my warning. It's dangerous, if they find out what you are doing.. Well it's not pretty. From personal experiance people aren't thrilled when or if they find out.

### Re: Nubby Question, but ehhh...why not?

Post by BoundJiraxys15 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:39 pm

@ jason: thanks for the idea, but I doubt a plan of suck tangent (I.e. Cousin with fantasy) could work on NY smart girl friends.
@ scott: yeah, I realize that
Handgag me. Hogtie/Chairtie/Frogtie me in my bare feet. My dirty socks wadded up and shoved in my mouth secured by duct tape wrapped around my mouth, ballgag, or both. Nude or just in my skibby's. Tickle me, feminize me, I won't care.

### Re: Nubby Question, but ehhh...why not?

Post by Jason Toddman » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:10 pm

> BoundJiraxys15 wrote:@ jason: thanks for the idea, but I doubt a plan of suck tangent (I.e. Cousin with fantasy) could work on NY smart girl friends.
> @ scott: yeah, I realize that

You're probably right. As I freely admitted, I never tried it myself (at your age I hardly needed to! ) and it had its own risks.
Dare to be different... and make a difference.
To boldly go where no one in their right mind has gone before...

### Re: Nubby Question, but ehhh...why not?

Post by SamanthaBoundx » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:14 am

> BoundJiraxys15 wrote:@ jason: thanks for the idea, but I doubt a plan of suck tangent (I.e. Cousin with fantasy) could work on NY smart girl friends.

To be fair, even though they would probably work out that there is no "cousin" and that its actually your fantasy that youre describing, girls (and people in general actually!) tend to go along with a lie as long as its harmless - most people arent rude enough to do otherwise. My guess is that they would still give you advice on the "situation" from which you might be able to get some insight about whether they feel comfortable with bondage.
However, like you said, they would probably be completely aware its a lie. So, in the end it really comes down to how comfortable you are with people knowing. I know that a lot of people say that they would never tell anyone because they'd react badly, but I'm very open about my love of bondage and actually, people are often interested or at least supportive of it. Though obviously it might not be the same for most people xD

### Re: Nubby Question, but ehhh...why not?

Post by Jason Toddman » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:39 pm

> SamanthaBoundx wrote: I'm very open about my love of bondage and actually, people are often interested or at least supportive of it. Though obviously it might not be the same for most people xD

It probably helps that you're a mature adult who hangs around with other mature adults. I gather though that BoundJiraxys15 is still in high school and hangs around with a less mature crowd. Also probably a larger one in general, as a high school is its own self-contained community of sorts and most high schoolers seem to know everything publicly known about every other high schooler (at least in the same school). If someone tries to spread the 'word' about you, Samantha, it probably wouldn't get very far unless you and they both worked for a large company or some such - and even then most would quickly forget if they cared at all. But a high school is a completely different environment. One text message and soon everyone there knows BJ15's business, and high schoolers are very socially self-conscious - it could be very embarassing for BJ15 if his girlfriend ever got mad at him (for this reason or any other reason for that matter). So IMHO he's very sensible to be cautious about this whole thing; it some ways it IS harder for teens than it is for adults - at least for younger adults (older adults face their own problems). AFAIK their social network is very different than an adult's - and is very very different from anything I ever knew at his age thanks to cell phones, Facebook, twitter, cyber-bullying, and all that sort of thing.
All in all, I liked it better when *I* was a kid and we didn't have to worry about (or even imagine) such things. But I'm probably in a minority in that regard.
That probably wasn't very reassuring. Sorry about that. But better safe than sorry, I think. Anyway, good luck with whatever you do, Boundjiraxys15.
Dare to be different... and make a difference.
To boldly go where no one in their right mind has gone before...

### Re: Nubby Question, but ehhh...why not?

Post by BoundJiraxys15 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:37 pm

So, I found out that one of my friends who is a girl is maso/sadistic, more sadistic, but what a coincidence, when I was waiting for my sister to pick me up after school, she was talking with our group of friends about how weird masochism is, and then they got to BDSM and completely trashed it lol :/.
Looks like I may never get what I want ;_;.
Handgag me. Hogtie/Chairtie/Frogtie me in my bare feet. My dirty socks wadded up and shoved in my mouth secured by duct tape wrapped around my mouth, ballgag, or both. Nude or just in my skibby's. Tickle me, feminize me, I won't care.

### Re: Nubby Question, but ehhh...why not?

Post by Jason Toddman » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:36 pm

> BoundJiraxys15 wrote:So, I found out that one of my friends who is a girl is maso/sadistic, more sadistic, but what a coincidence, when I was waiting for my sister to pick me up after school, she was talking with our group of friends about how weird masochism is, and then they got to BDSM and completely trashed it lol :/.
> Looks like I may never get what I want ;_;.

This doesn't always mean anything. If they'd asked your honest opinion about it right then and there would you have actually given it after what they had just said? Probably not (not if you had any sense anyway); and that wouldn't change what you really think. Once someone (if they're popular, that is) trashes something controversial like that (or gayness or vegans or whatever) in front of others, the herd instinct kicks in. The only way to get an honest opinion from someone about anything at all is in a one-on-one conversation when no on can overhear what is being said and the other person trusts you. Distrust anything else (good or bad) being said when the whole group is saying the sam thing; because it means nothing at all. For all we know, one of those people you overheard was thinking the same exact thing you were: 'Darn it! I'll never have any TUGs!' Maybe unlikely, but not impossible either.
Dare to be different... and make a difference.
To boldly go where no one in their right mind has gone before...

### Re: Nubby Question, but ehhh...why not?

Post by SamanthaBoundx » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:19 am

> Jason Toddman wrote:It probably helps that you're a mature adult who hangs around with other mature adults. I gather though that BoundJiraxys15 is still in high school and hangs around with a less mature crowd. Also probably a larger one in general, as a high school is its own self-contained community of sorts and most high schoolers seem to know everything publicly known about every other high schooler (at least in the same school). If someone tries to spread the 'word' about you, Samantha, it probably wouldn't get very far unless you and they both worked for a large company or some such - and even then most would quickly forget if they cared at all. But a high school is a completely different environment. One text message and soon everyone there knows BJ15's business, and high schoolers are very socially self-conscious - it could be very embarassing for BJ15 if his girlfriend ever got mad at him (for this reason or any other reason for that matter). So IMHO he's very sensible to be cautious about this whole thing; it some ways it IS harder for teens than it is for adults - at least for younger adults (older adults face their own problems). AFAIK their social network is very different than an adult's - and is very very different from anything I ever knew at his age thanks to cell phones, Facebook, twitter, cyber-bullying, and all that sort of thing.

To be fair, it wasn't exactly a massive secret for me even while I was in high school and the only unwanted attention I got for it were some guys in my class coming on to me. It didn't spread through the whole school through text and there wasn't any bullying. . .
But to be honest, I do completely agree with you xD I think I'm prbably in the minority. And as bad as it sounds, I think it probably helps that I'm a female! I think there's still much more stigma about a guy being into bondage - I think a submissive guy would appear to be a perfect target for bullying in a high school - whereas I think its just generally more accepted for a girl. So, I would keep fairly tight lipped about it, just in case - better safe than sorry!

### Re: Nubby Question, but ehhh...why not?

Post by SamanthaBoundx » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:26 am

> BoundJiraxys15 wrote:So, I found out that one of my friends who is a girl is maso/sadistic, more sadistic, but what a coincidence, when I was waiting for my sister to pick me up after school, she was talking with our group of friends about how weird masochism is, and then they got to BDSM and completely trashed it lol :/.
> Looks like I may never get what I want ;_;.

Like Jason said, they're probably just following the crowd! I wouldn't lose hope completely
A further point to add though, is that these girls (if they're your age) have probably never experienced TUGs at all and therefore are probably quite unknowledgable or scared of it. I know that before I got into bondage when I was 17, if the idea ever came up it would make me squirm - and look how much I love it now after having experienced it! Unfortunately, I think a lot of unexperienced girls would be reluctant to try something that's percieved as being very sexual with someone that they aren't in a relationship with, particularly not for their first time.
I think what I'm trying to say is that although there's definitely still a chance that these girls may like or be interested in bondage, it's probably best to avoid asking them too directly to avoid disappointment or even the loss of a good friend. I hope it all works out for you though! ^^

### Re: Nubby Question, but ehhh...why not?

Post by BoundJiraxys15 » Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:43 pm

Anyone got anymore advice? xD.
I guess I will somewhat try with the sadistic/masochistic girl that is a friend of mine first.
Handgag me. Hogtie/Chairtie/Frogtie me in my bare feet. My dirty socks wadded up and shoved in my mouth secured by duct tape wrapped around my mouth, ballgag, or both. Nude or just in my skibby's. Tickle me, feminize me, I won't care.

### Re: Nubby Question, but ehhh...why not?

Post by Jason Toddman » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:41 pm

> BoundJiraxys15 wrote:Anyone got anymore advice? xD..

Yeah... don't listen to any more of MY advice. Just go with your own gut instincts... and hope for the best.
Dare to be different... and make a difference.
To boldly go where no one in their right mind has gone before...

### Re: Nubby Question, but ehhh...why not?

Post by BoundJiraxys15 » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:12 pm

I will remember you, Jason, as I find a clever way to make an enjoyable TUG come true lol.
Handgag me. Hogtie/Chairtie/Frogtie me in my bare feet. My dirty socks wadded up and shoved in my mouth secured by duct tape wrapped around my mouth, ballgag, or both. Nude or just in my skibby's. Tickle me, feminize me, I won't care.

### Re: Nubby Question, but ehhh...why not?

Post by cellofello » Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:58 am

> BoundJiraxys15 wrote:So, I found out that one of my friends who is a girl is maso/sadistic, more sadistic, but what a coincidence, when I was waiting for my sister to pick me up after school, she was talking with our group of friends about how weird masochism is, and then they got to BDSM and completely trashed it lol :/.

How did you find out that your friend is masochistic/sadistic?
Assuming that your original impression is correct, I can only conclude (as have others) that she's following the herd for fear that if she told the truth then they would think her weird. Happily, this gives you a good starting point for a private talk. You could remind her of that earlier conversation, and ask something like, "What's so bad about it, if that's what makes them happy? To tell the truth, I was a little surprised to hear you say that. Because actually I got the impression from [whatever gave you the impression she was sadomasochistic] that you didn't think it was so weird." It gives her an opening to be honest with you; the first sentence makes it clear you won't condemn her if she admits she really is interested. And it's a little less abrupt than just walking up to her and saying out of the blue, "So, would you like to tie me up?"