## Aw crap, now we're gonna get bombed

Post by burner59 » Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:44 pm

Are you serious? Why can't Iran just settle down here?
http://news.yahoo.com/iran-six-seven-mo ... 23940.html
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### Re: Aw crap, now we're gonna get bombed

Post by Kyle » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:29 pm

Iran is hoping to provoke Israel to attack them so they'll have the world's sympathy in trying to wipe them off the face of the earth, which they've plainly said they want to do on more than one occasion. Israel probably knows this, which is why they want the US to do it for them. Funny how everyone says the US gets involved with other countries too much, but when dirty work needs to be done, guess who they come calling?
Although if it comes down to it, Israel will probably do it on their own if the US won't. No telling what will happen then.

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Post by Jason Toddman » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:08 am

NutandYahoo seems to think that the US is at his beck and call or something. First he treats Obama like a dog, then expects him to heel.
It may be unpopular to say this, and I'm not anti-semitic by any means, but (whether it has a right to exist or not) I think Israel is - and always has been - an albatross around the neck of the US. The only claim Israelis have to the land is based on historic and religious grounds. By the same logic, whites should return all the land they stole from the "Indians" in America, the Polynesians in the Pacific, the blacks in Africa, and the aboriginies in Australia... and I don't see anyone seriously proposing THAT should happen!
Personally, I think the cause of world peace would be best served if the Israelis simply packed up and moved back to the countries they originally came from or moved to some area no one else wants and where nobody would bother them... like Antarctica.
Better still if all the organized religions of the world were abandoned... these days they do more harm than good anyway. I don't mean belief in or worship of God - just the organized religions and the fanatics who often run them.
Sorry if some of this is not politically correct, but I doubt I'm the only one who feels this way... just the only one perhaps to admit it in print.
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### Re: Aw crap, now we're gonna get bombed

Post by Jack Roper » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:15 pm

While I suppose Antarctica is a tad bit too cold, I basically agree with you, Jason, regarding organized religion. The world would be a much better place if organized religions were far less dominant--everywhere, without exception. And, I would go one step further and say that nation states should also be downgraded in favor of something more universal (not the United Nations by any means--that's just another indication of the conflicts between nation states).
We all live on the planet Earth. There are really no national boundaries per se except those that men (and women) have artificially created. The earth has enough resources for everyone provided greed is eliminated.
I expect this all to happen the day after the first World Nuclear War, perhaps later this century--maybe evn by 12-22-12.

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Post by Jason Toddman » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:54 pm

That's seems a tad soon Jack...unless you believe in that Mayan calendar nonsense, which I don't... but something like this could very well happen within the lifetime of most of us.
Naturally I hope it does not, but the overall world situation - including rising population, dwindling resources, tanking world economy, political gridlock, religious extremism (and not just the Muslims either; they're simply the most violent) and global climate change to name just a few - is so unstable that some great (and probably violent) change is all but inevitable within another generation or two.
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### Re: Aw crap, now we're gonna get bombed

Post by Kyle » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:36 pm

I'm generally a supporter of Israel, but I've never liked that we essentially kiss their butts on everything and I don't want to fight their wars for them. If Iran truly attacks them it will be another story, but not before then (unless Israel, or someone else, has proof that an attack is really imminent).

### Re: Aw crap, now we're gonna get bombed

Post by the other one » Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:28 pm

Iran is a friendly country without nuclear weapons.
Israel and the NATO provocate the Iran over decades. Israel and the USA are planning to attack the Iran because of the oil. And this is not the first time.
Over the last months Israel increased the war propaganda. Israel is the "country", that has at least once attacked all his neighbours. Israel is in my opinion the biggest danger in that area. It wouldn't surprise me, if they would attack the Iran, and so they would bring on a bigger global war.
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### Re: Aw crap, now we're gonna get bombed

Post by Chris12 » Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:01 pm

Not to be all black and white about it but Iran is not a friendly country. The people living there might be very friendly or at least sane but their goverment is not! The only reason they aren't a big danger is because they aren't capable enough of being so. I agree that the US and Israel are overstating the treat Iran is at the moment but i would still say those two have the ''moral highground'' over Iran if only because its Iran.
Iran just isn't a nation that can be trusted with a nuke, okay no one can really be trusted with them but Iran having them is just asking for trouble. Even if they themselves don't use it they can easily just give them to terrorists and say ''Have fun with it''

### Re: Aw crap, now we're gonna get bombed

Post by Jason Toddman » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:28 pm

> Chris12 wrote:Iran just isn't a nation that can be trusted with a nuke, okay no one can really be trusted with them but Iran having them is just asking for trouble. Even if they themselves don't use it they can easily just give them to terrorists and say ''Have fun with it''

That is, in a nutshell, probably the scenario that the US, Israel, and other countries are most concerned about. Iraq's threat as a terrorist nation was bogus, but Iran's threat is all too real... especially in light of the demonstration we've just gotten about how volatile many people in Muslim nations actually are.
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### Re: Aw crap, now we're gonna get bombed

Post by Kyle » Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:45 pm

I always figured if anyone was going to end up using nuclear weapons, it'd be the United States.* That was before Iran tried to develop them. They are the only country I'm legitimately worried might be dumb enough to try to use them.
*Yeah, I know there were the atomic bombs, but you know I mean the really big modern ones which make those look like firecrackers with radiation poisoning.

### Re: Aw crap, now we're gonna get bombed

Post by drawscore » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:23 pm

Bomb Iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBGPw_LBiRA
Drawscore

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Post by Jason Toddman » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:56 pm

> drawscore wrote:Bomb Iran
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBGPw_LBiRA
> Drawscore

Actually, that song variation is not entirely new. I was in basic training when the ayatollah took over Iran and we made jokes about us getting deployed there. One of us actually created a variation of Barbara Ann with lyrics very much like the video posted here. Bomb bomb bomb... bomb bomb Iran... Gawd, I'd forgotten that for years!
And you know what... *I* STILL think it's FUNNY!
Not a good idea in real life perhaps (unless Iran starts something first), but I liked the song (and maybe even the idea behind it) and I'm NOT ashamed to admit it! The bastards have it coming!!
One minor thing that puzzles me: I recognize the statue of Paul Bunyan that flashes in that video clip; it's the one in Bangor, in my own state. I can't help but wonder why he's in there! Oh well...
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### Re: Aw crap, now we're gonna get bombed

Post by the other one » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:14 pm

> Chris12 wrote:Iran just isn't a nation that can be trusted with a nuke, okay no one can really be trusted with them but Iran having them is just asking for trouble. Even if they themselves don't use it they can easily just give them to terrorists and say ''Have fun with it''

If all your enemies have nukes isn't it fair, when you have them too?
Do you believe that the USA don't give nukes to their allies?
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Post by Chris12 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:27 pm

I don't believe America ''Gave'' Nukes to their ally's, no. Sold is probably more like it.
And it really isn't the same thing. Irans enemies don't help supply terrorist with weapons and shelter to attack them.
The main difference is that the ''enemy'' in the case you described is (whatever you may think of it) mentaly stable.

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Post by the other one » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:33 pm

> Chris12 wrote:I don't believe America ''Gave'' Nukes to their ally's, no. Sold is probably more like it.
> And it really isn't the same thing. Irans enemies don't help supply terrorist with weapons and shelter to attack them.
> The main difference is that the ''enemy'' in the case you described is (whatever you may think of it) mentaly stable.

What's your definition of terrorist?
Long black beard, muslim, warmonger, ....
“Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd.”
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Post by Jason Toddman » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:36 pm

How did I wind up getting credited with Chris12's quote? Not that I disagree with it, but give credit where it's due!
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Post by Chris12 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:39 pm

It are the more visual ones at least so it would be the first image in my head but not my definition.
America being responsible enough not to hand nukes to terrorist against Iran would be proven by the fact that neither a nuke has hitt it yet nor did they threaten to do it. Guess what Iran has threatened with?
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Post by the other one » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:40 pm

> Jason Toddman wrote:How did I wind up getting credited with Chris12's quote? Not that I disagree with it, but give credit where it's due!

sry I had first in mind to write something to your post, and then i deleted the wrong quotation.
I fixed it.
“Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd.”
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Post by the other one » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:51 pm

> Chris12 wrote:It are the more visual ones at least so it would be the first image in my head but not my definition.
> America being responsible enough not to hand nukes to terrorist against Iran would be proven by the fact that neither a nuke has hitt it yet nor did they threaten to do it. Guess what Iran has threatened with?

That's a prejudice. I hope you're not so racist.
Who said that the USA is allowed to have a monopoly in that field?
I would say either everyone destroy their nukes or everyone should be allowed to have nukes.
That's what we call EQUALITY.
“Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd.”
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Post by Chris12 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:55 pm

It really isn't all that prejudiced you know. If all politicians you have heard about in the last decade has green skin the first picture you will have of a politician is someone with green skin. You realise not all politicians have green skin but those that do are simply more well known. Thats not being prejudiced against politicians at all.
Actually i'm in favor of everyone getting ridd of their nukes but NOT to everyone having them.

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Post by Jason Toddman » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:07 pm

The only way I want to see Iran get nukes is for it to get nuked!
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Post by the other one » Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:23 pm

> Jason Toddman wrote:The only way I want to see Iran get nukes is for it to get nuked!

But therefore you have to wait some years.
And I could predict, that the USA or Israel will attack many years before Iran has made the first steps to get a nuke.
“Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd.”
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Post by Jason Toddman » Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:49 pm

The way some tell it, that's only a mater of months rather than years.
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Post by the other one » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:36 pm

> Jason Toddman wrote:The way some tell it, that's only a mater of months rather than years.

Yeah just like the weapon of mass destruction in Iraq
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Post by Jason Toddman » Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:37 pm

> the other one wrote:Yeah just like the weapon of mass destruction in Iraq

Perhaps, but I think there's more evidence in this case than there was with Saddam. For all his faults, Saddam wasn't as bad as the bat-s**t crazy weirdoes running Iran at the moment. At least he kept terrorism in check, despite the BS Bush told us. We're the ones who allowed terrorists to take route in Iraq, not Saddam. Iran however is already a case of the inmates running the asylum.
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Post by Rope_guy » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:26 pm

The U.S., in a way, gave the nukes to the Soviet Union in the '50s. A couple named Julius and Ethel Rosenberg sold the Soviets plans on building the Hydrogen Bomb. However, the Rosenbergs were caught and were convicted and executed for treason.

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Post by drawscore » Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:07 pm

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WVTSHeL6Xo
Drawscore

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Post by NemesisPrime » Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:38 pm

> Jack Roper wrote:While I suppose Antarctica is a tad bit too cold, I basically agree with you, Jason, regarding organized religion. The world would be a much better place if organized religions were far less dominant--everywhere, without exception. And, I would go one step further and say that nation states should also be downgraded in favor of something more universal (not the United Nations by any means--that's just another indication of the conflicts between nation states).
> We all live on the planet Earth. There are really no national boundaries per se except those that men (and women) have artificially created. The earth has enough resources for everyone provided greed is eliminated.
> I expect this all to happen the day after the first World Nuclear War, perhaps later this century--maybe evn by 12-22-12.

I have to quote Bill Maher here: "Religion must die in order for mankind to survive."
I do NOT want another war to add onto the the other un-winnable wars we're fighting. The War On Drugs, The War On Women, The War On Christmas (lol just kidding), etc.
Our country needs to get it's own house in order first before we even CONSIDER foreign aid.
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Post by Kyle » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:15 pm

Nobody says "wise philosopher" more than Bill Maher.

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Post by chu.joelle » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:04 pm

Anyone who uses a nuclear weapon now that we know its power needs to be destroyed. If Iran fires first Iran must give up its leadership to be executed horribly or the country should be turned to glass. I think that is the same for any country now days.