Jason Toddman wrote:Kyle wrote:The Democrats could have easily broken filibusters for months and still couldn't get anything done. That's not to say the Republican party isn't full of morons but the Democrats had plenty of chances to pass stuff and didn't do it.
The "party of no," Glenn Beck, Bush was worse...we're doing very well in fitting the usual off-topic lefty references into this discussion. All we need are Rush Limbaugh and "teabagger" references for a perfect score.
Are you one of those far-right people who consider ANY 'lefty' reference as off-topic? Please don't be so offensive. I don't diss YOUR views however much I disagree with them. Kindly don't diss MINE either.
Read what I wrote to Snobound above. I'm more of a libertarian than anything. I don't like off-topic points from the right-wing either. I just don't see it much on here. When we have the "birthers" show up I'm calling them out too. I'm sick and tired of political debate in general devolving into stupidity like this. You can see it all over the Internet. If Fox News has nothing to do with the conversation, by God, they don't need to be brought up. Somebody mentioned Sarah Palin above, which is a common lefty insulting point too. I didn't bring that up because it was actually a point about her, not just a pointless insult.
I don't know who said what so I'm not calling anyone out by name here. I just know what I saw above. If it offends you I'm calling out people for pointless, stupid arguments, that's your problem, not mine. There's at least one whole thread on George Bush on here. If you want to debate him, go there. This is about Obama and his 3 trillion dollars. Glenn Beck was a stupid point to bring up. If something to be said about Bush really adds to the conversation, I'm all for it. Just saying "well, Bush was worse" is childish, and if I'm in the mood for it, I'm going to call it out. Apparently I was in the mood to do that yesterday.
I'm not insulting anyone's views. I'm just tired of stupid pointless comments that are made. It's not just here, it's everywhere. So I'm probably going a little hard after people on this. We all go off-topic sometimes. I do it too. But you can't go 5 posts on a political topic involving American politics without something like this coming up. You can see it coming a mile away too. I could have told you from the first post on here eventually someone was going to bring up Fox News, for instance, when it had nothing to do with the conversation. It wasn't quite Fox, but Glenn Beck was brought up.
Let me put it this way. If I told someone "quit watching MSNBC" or "quit reading the New York Times" somebody would call me out for that. And they'd be right to do it. That's essentially what happened above, and essentially what happens all over the place, except it was a right-wing media outlet that was brought up. It's a pointless thing to say and adds nothing to the debate.