## Bondage Safety

Post by Gemscot » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:31 am

My brothers and I really enjoy bondage games. They are clean, cheap and harmless, and a lot safet than drugs, alcochol, boxing or hang gliding, to name just four.
Although we have had the "occasional accident", it usually been nothing more than a bit of rope burn because the ropes were tied too tight. No game is completely risk free, but we've found following the precautions listed below reduces the risk to as near as zero as they will ever get.
1 - Only play bondage games with people you know and trust really well. Never play with mere aquaintances and beware of group scenes.
2 - ALL participants MUST consent to the games and no one should ever be forced, tricked or pressured.
3 - ALL participants MUST be free from the influence of drugs, alcohol, tobaco and any other addictive substances.
4 - A readily recogniseable danger signal MUST be agreed BEFORE the games start. Once given, the games MUST stop IMMEDIATELY and all restraints MUST be removed.
5 - All restraints MUST be quick release in case of emergency.
6 - Captives MUST NEVER be restrained face down, especially on soft surfaces such as beds.
7 - Gags MUST NEVER be used as the risk of choking is too great. Hoods, masks and blindfolds are quite safe as long as they don't restrict breathing.
8 - NEVER suspend the captive by any part of their anatomy.
9 - Captives MUST NEVER be left alone for any time longer than going to the bathroom or making a drink. The captive MUST be face-upwards, and MUST consent to being left alone.
10 - Although it is perfectly safe to sleep with a captive, they MUST consent to this, they MUST be face upwards and any hoods or masks MUST be removed. They MUST be able to wake you or call a third party in an emergency.
11 - Within the limits of humand endurance and decency, there is NO time limit for any bondage games. The captor MUST check the restraints periodically, even if the danger signal is not given. The captor MUST also ensure the captive is kept well hydrated.
Above all - just enjoy yourselves!

### Re: Bondage Safety

Post by Nuclearo » Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:30 am

My "corrections" to this compilation:
7. As I've said oh so many times, gags aren't always dangerous. It's mostly stuffed gags and gags that might block your nose that can be dangerous. What you do need to make sure is your captive can breathe easily through their nose and take good care of them, and also don't leave a gagged person, as the safety signal will not be vocal when gagged.
8. This is something I have mixed feelings about. On one hand, there are ways to safely suspend a person, using the right gear and safety measures. On the other hand, I know a lot people here don't have those things and are too inexperienced to do a safe suspension. So okay, for this case I agree with this rule. I just wanted to point out it might not always be a death trap.
After saying that, this is mostly a good set of ground rules.
Join our irc channel!! http://chat.mibbit.com/#tugsnet It's fun!!

### Re: Bondage Safety

Post by haloguy » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:21 pm

wow, you are seeming to be really into the whole safety issue here, I mean, no gags? A cleave gag is okay, and so is a tape gag, or a ball gag. I can see how some may be bad, but did something happen to you recently that made you feel very inclined to be super safe?

### Re: Bondage Safety

Post by Nuclearo » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:23 pm

He was with the safety thing for quite some time, but what's the issue with gags all of a sudden?
Join our irc channel!! http://chat.mibbit.com/#tugsnet It's fun!!

### Re: Bondage Safety

Post by Boundgal08 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:55 pm

Oh my, not this again surely! we have gone over this in another topic, if you are that bad with health and safety you might as well not play games at all.... because you are just ripping the fun out of it!
I mean No gags because they are dangerous, if they were dangerous the government would of labelled them as dangerous and they would not be sold... as that has not happened, I do not see the big issue about gags being dangerous. You have really taken this to heart, we need to know the real reason while all of a sudden you have an issue with
1) Health and Safety
2) Gags
You seem to be spreading it all over the board, can you like give us reasons for this??
Cheers,
BG
BOUNDGIRL!
Probably the kinkiest woman you will ever meet!
I am a switch, I like to put a man in ropes and also have a man put me in ropes!
I am the 'Queen of bondage'

### Re: Bondage Safety

Post by Gemscot » Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:48 pm

I'm not into funerals!

### Re: Bondage Safety

Post by Boundgal08 » Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:49 pm

> Gemscot wrote:I'm not into funerals!

Right OK, explains a lot that..... I'm still confused... then why play them if you think its that dangerous?
Cheers,
BG
BOUNDGIRL!
Probably the kinkiest woman you will ever meet!
I am a switch, I like to put a man in ropes and also have a man put me in ropes!
I am the 'Queen of bondage'

### Re: Bondage Safety

Post by haloguy » Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:24 pm

> Gemscot wrote:I'm not into funerals!

well then, lets get rid of cars! I mean, there are 50,000 car related deaths in the US per year, so lets get rid of them too!
and while we're at it, don't pillows at night pose the risk of smothering if you turn over at night ! out with pillows!

### Re: Bondage Safety

Post by Nuclearo » Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:01 pm

And while we're on haloguy's exaggeration roll, let's ban all medicine for the risk of overdoses!
But really, Gemscot, that's not an explanation. Be reasonable and answer when someone asks you a specific question. Why do you think gags are so insanely dangerous that they can't be used? If you can check on a person to see if their ropes aren't too tight surely you can see if they're breathing alright. I'm not saying you should not be a safety nut, (as in someone who worries a lot about safety, don't start saying I called you insane) every group needs a person reminding them not to go insane and try to suspend themselves from the roof using really thin rope that goes around their throats, but I still think you're taking this too far.
I want you to give me an explanation on how someone, whose nose isn't blocked by a cold, allergy or anything else not caused directly by the game, can choke to death while following all of your other rules because they wore a ball gag.
Join our irc channel!! http://chat.mibbit.com/#tugsnet It's fun!!

### Re: Bondage Safety

Post by Fesselfan » Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:37 pm

Ok, I have to add some comments here, too.
First, gags. Gags can be safely used as long as one knows what one does, as others have pointed out already.

> and beware of group scenes.

Why?

> The captive MUST be face-upwards, [...].

Wrong. If you are so extremly into safety, the captive should lie on his side (check Recovery position). Face-Up there is a danger of choking from your tounge or vomit if the person should pass out.

> Captives MUST NEVER be restrained face down, especially on soft surfaces such as beds.

As long as you don't tie the head down with force to the bed, that's not a real problem. Remember...we don't leave our captives alone, do we?

> NEVER suspend the captive by any part of their anatomy.

This can be done quite safely; although I agree that novices shouldn't try it.
Cheers
FF
There are 10 kind of people in the world.
Those who understand binary numeral system, and those who don't.

### Re: Bondage Safety

Post by Boundgal08 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:18 am

> All restraints MUST be quick release in case of emergency.

The Material of the restraints should be easily removable. For example, rope get scissors, or even by rope scissors from a hardware store, so that they can be cut away quickly, even then while tying up your captive you should make sure the ropes aren't too tight as this can cause circulation to be cut off.
With cuffs, make sure the key is off you to undo the padlock if you have placed them on your captive, either way cuffs are easily removed.

> Captives MUST NEVER be restrained face down, especially on soft surfaces such as beds.

Yes and No, it depends really as long as you don't tie people's heads down to the bed or surface, you should be fine.

> Gags MUST NEVER be used as the risk of choking is too great.

Really? I really think you are reading into gags too much, not all gags will make you choke, if you place them properly, do them properly, you should be fine.

> Hoods, masks and blindfolds are quite safe as long as they don't restrict breathing.

These are also fine, hoods do have there downsides but really all 3 are totally fine to use as long as you do them right.

> NEVER suspend the captive by any part of their anatomy.

I don't think this is really nescecary, as long as you do it right and do it with the right materials you will be fine. Novices really should not do this.
BOUNDGIRL!
Probably the kinkiest woman you will ever meet!
I am a switch, I like to put a man in ropes and also have a man put me in ropes!
I am the 'Queen of bondage'

### Re: Bondage Safety

Post by Nuclearo » Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:28 am

Here's a nice little motto or whatever it's called inspired by what Boundgal said: A proper gag won't make you gag
(though if you ask Nuclearo it should taste bad enough for that :3)
Join our irc channel!! http://chat.mibbit.com/#tugsnet It's fun!!

### Re: Bondage Safety

Post by Boundgal08 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:47 am

> Nuclearo wrote:Here's a nice little motto or whatever it's called inspired by what Boundgal said: A proper gag won't make you gag
> (though if you ask Nuclearo it should taste bad enough for that :3)

Oh thanks
Nice little motto there Nuc
BG
BOUNDGIRL!
Probably the kinkiest woman you will ever meet!
I am a switch, I like to put a man in ropes and also have a man put me in ropes!
I am the 'Queen of bondage'

### Re: Bondage Safety

Post by Nuclearo » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:08 am

> Boundgal08 wrote:

> > Nuclearo wrote:Here's a nice little motto or whatever it's called inspired by what Boundgal said: A proper gag won't make you gag
> > (though if you ask Nuclearo it should taste bad enough for that :3)

> Oh thanks
> Nice little motto there Nuc
> BG

Oh no, mistress, thank YOU for the inspiration
Join our irc channel!! http://chat.mibbit.com/#tugsnet It's fun!!

### Re: Bondage Safety

Post by Boundgal08 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:11 am

You are more than welcome Maid
Mistress!
BOUNDGIRL!
Probably the kinkiest woman you will ever meet!
I am a switch, I like to put a man in ropes and also have a man put me in ropes!
I am the 'Queen of bondage'

### Re: Bondage Safety

Post by haloguy » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:17 pm

and by the way, I also think that gags are perfectly safe unless the person in question is noseless and they are being gagged by a panel or tape gag