#MuslimBan

Postby Oohmynameisblue » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:36 pm

Thoughts?

Re: #MuslimBan

Postby xtc » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:42 pm

Far more thoughts than Bozo the Clown is capable of processing in his more lucid moments.
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Re: #MuslimBan

Postby BoundJana » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:54 pm

Well, Trump is probadly (and hopefully) the first president, who's removed from his position because he did exactly what we promised before the election.
That muslimban is just inhuman and just will end in more violence
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Re: #MuslimBan

Postby drawscore » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:37 am

Technically, it's not a Muslim ban. It applies to anyone from the seven countries, regardless of religion. It's also not permanent. It's in place for 90-120 days, while the State Department works on more effective ways to vet those who wish to come here.

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Re: #MuslimBan

Postby Rachel M » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:52 am

Someone forgot to tell Giuliani and POTUS (who wants priority given to Syrian christians) then. It's not about "more effective ways to vet" (the current process that takes up to 2 years is pretty involved to begin with, not a single fatal terrorist attack on US soil perpetrated by a refugee), so much as creating a boogieman.

I can't wait to see you backpedal trying to claim the "Bowling Green Massacre" was technically a real thing because blahblahblah.

Re: #MuslimBan

Postby wataru14 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:56 am

Like many other Republican policies, it's something that's completely misguided and won't work. But they are not interested in seeing any actual evidence to that fact or coming up with an alternate solution to the perceived problem because of the giant honking Justice/Revenge Boners they have.

Re: #MuslimBan

Postby drawscore » Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:59 am

wataru14 wrote:Like many other Republican policies, it's something that's completely misguided and won't work. But they are not interested in seeing any actual evidence to that fact or coming up with an alternate solution to the perceived problem because of the giant honking Justice/Revenge Boners they have.


Would it surprise you to learn that if this same policy was put in place by a Democrat president, many of those that call it "unworkable," "inhumane," or other terms, would do a complete 180, and suddenly, the policy would become "wise," "prudent," and "necessary?"

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Re: #MuslimBan

Postby Jason Toddman » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:28 am

drawscore wrote:
wataru14 wrote:Like many other Republican policies, it's something that's completely misguided and won't work. But they are not interested in seeing any actual evidence to that fact or coming up with an alternate solution to the perceived problem because of the giant honking Justice/Revenge Boners they have.


Would it surprise you to learn that if this same policy was put in place by a Democrat president, many of those that call it "unworkable," "inhumane," or other terms, would do a complete 180, and suddenly, the policy would become "wise," "prudent," and "necessary?"

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Oh yeah, because we all know that such a thing happened with Obama all the time, didn't it?
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Re: #MuslimBan

Postby wataru14 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:40 am

drawscore wrote:Would it surprise you to learn that if this same policy was put in place by a Democrat president, many of those that call it "unworkable," "inhumane," or other terms, would do a complete 180, and suddenly, the policy would become "wise," "prudent," and "necessary?"

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I was going to make a comment about your crystal ball being really powerful. But I'm not going to fall for that trick. I'm not going to let you deflect the issue. We're not talking about how hypothetical people would hypothetically perceive a hypothetical policy if it were pitched by someone else. I'm talking about the validity of the policy itself and why it was made in the first place. I'm talking about the setting of policy, by policy-makers, based on personal bias and complete disregard for actual evidence. Things like the Republican stance on climate change, the war on drugs, eroding the secular state, and immigration. When you have mountains of evidence and studies that shows the effect of an action on a situation, and people still choose to completely ignore said evidence and make policy based on "common sense" that is completely wrong. Then they enact and defend policies that have been proven not to work many times in the past. For f***'s sake, how long are we going to have to deal with the specter of Trickle-Down Economics popping back up, even though it has never worked any time in history it has ever been implemented? How many people have to serve 30+ year jail sentences for selling a dimebag, because "DRUGZ R BAD N DRUGGIE-HEADS MUST B PUNISH'D!!!!!!!" How many women have to have their lives ruined forever because someone thinks an inanimate clump of cells with no independent brain function is alive because "IT LOOKZ LIKE A BABEE!!!!!!!" and "SHE SHUDNT BE A SLUT THEN!!!!"

It makes me absolutely furious that people make policy and spend billions and trillions of dollars while sitting on mountains of evidence that it will fail (or at best be useless) without a second thought.

Re: #MuslimBan

Postby Rachel M » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:31 am

drawscore wrote:Would it surprise you to learn that if this same policy was put in place by a Democrat president, many of those that call it "unworkable," "inhumane," or other terms, would do a complete 180, and suddenly, the policy would become "wise," "prudent," and "necessary?"


It would surprise me a lot to "learn" this completely hypothetical situation you just made up whole cloth, but only because I know what the word 'learn' means. Speaking of this though, remember during the primaries when you were pretending to be an independent? Boy you sure spun around to carry their water fast.

Re: #MuslimBan

Postby Rachel M » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:32 am

I'm sorry, we really should all be more civil to each other after the Bowling Green massacre.

Re: #MuslimBan

Postby wataru14 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:49 am

Rachel M wrote:I'm sorry, we really should all be more civil to each other after the Bowling Green massacre.


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