Sleep

Postby tapegaglover! » Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:38 am

Is there anything that can make someone fall asleep without harmful side effects? Because chloroform is dangerous.
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Re: Sleep

Postby Nuclearo » Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:59 pm

Feed them turkey? XD
It generally depends a lot on the person. I don't think there's something out there that will knock a person out that's safe for someone who's not a doctor to use. If you want them to just fall asleep after a dinner on your couch try loading up the right foods. If you just wanna knock them out in a surprising manner I can't help you.
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Re: Sleep

Postby tapegaglover! » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:59 am

Nuclearo wrote:Feed them turkey? XD
It generally depends a lot on the person. I don't think there's something out there that will knock a person out that's safe for someone who's not a doctor to use. If you want them to just fall asleep after a dinner on your couch try loading up the right foods. If you just wanna knock them out in a surprising manner I can't help you.

Oh Nuclearo, you are funny. Your turkey comment made me laugh.
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Re: Sleep

Postby Fesselfan » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:52 am

tapegaglover! wrote:Is there anything that can make someone fall asleep without harmful side effects? Because chloroform is dangerous.

Short answer: no

Every way to force the brain to "shut down" is potentially harmfull. Besides, chloroform doesn't make you fall asleep.

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Re: Sleep

Postby Boundgal08 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:55 am

No there is not really..... all ways are potential!
There is nothing to do other than to do it 'dangerously' but even I would not recommend that.
Chloroform is hard to get anyway... there are other forms of it, that are less strong then chloro.... but whether side effects are dangerous or not they are unknown. and I do not know where you would get such a thing from.
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Re: Sleep

Postby tapegaglover! » Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:26 am

Fesselfan wrote:
tapegaglover! wrote:Is there anything that can make someone fall asleep without harmful side effects? Because chloroform is dangerous.

Short answer: no

Every way to force the brain to "shut down" is potentially harmfull. Besides, chloroform doesn't make you fall asleep.

Cheers

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It doesn't!? What does it do then?
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Re: Sleep

Postby haloguy » Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:27 am

it quickly deprives you of oxygen and keeps you unconscious until you get more air back

Re: Sleep

Postby tapegaglover! » Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:12 am

haloguy wrote:it quickly deprives you of oxygen and keeps you unconscious until you get more air back

Damn! So that's why it's so dangerous.
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Re: Sleep

Postby Fesselfan » Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:11 pm

Correct...you might want to google about the differences between sleep, unconsciousness and anesthetization.
Anesthesists are highly specialzied medics- and for a reason. As the popular saying goes...never try this at home! With all such stuff, you are *forcing* the brain to shut down. If you have bad luck- permanently (aka death).

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Re: Sleep

Postby Boundgal08 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:27 am

Yeah I would not recommend chloroform, it is something that is highly dangerous, and can lead to serious injuries or in worse case scenario's death. I doubt you would EVER want to put yourself or someone else through that trauma, Chloroform is something that is hard to possess you cannot just walk into a general supermarket and buy some, you have to find away via the internet or some other source to get some even then, you will probably not likely to succeed, a friend of mine tried to get some via a professional dom, and she would not sell him any, but recommended a source where he can get less effective chloroform...though it is not chloroform it is some other foreign body.
Overall, I would not go anywhere near this stuff. and find an alternative route to doing such a thing, though I would not say any route is even SAFE enough to attempt.

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Re: Sleep

Postby anjell » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:22 am

pizza puts me to sleep if i eat it i'm out like a light in a hour flat.
most people have a food that makes them sleepy all you have to do is find out what it is, and feed it to them. i been put under be almost every drug ever made and all im going to say waking up from them is not funn.
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Re: Sleep

Postby Fesselfan » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:29 am

Would you fall asleep if an attacking person holds you, forces you to eat pizza and then hold you for one more hour? :-) Although I have to admit, the imagination of it alone is very funny :mrgreen:

I reckon the intent of the OP here is to take someone out of the picture for a while, i.e. a played kidnapping. As we read it so often in stories...someone is clorophormed, passes out and awakes (tied up of course) in a completely unknown location.
The fantasy is indeed nice, but way too risky. If your partner is a good actor, a solution may be to "pretend" it. I.E. you take a piece of cloth and claim it's "clorophormed"- your partner has to pretend to be knocked out once the cloth is held in her face (perhaps after a little token struggle) and has to play "unconscious) afterward.

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Re: Sleep

Postby anjell » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:33 am

well being forced to eat it is a question i hope to never have a answer for.
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Re: Sleep

Postby PetSilkenvixen » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:39 am

There are some Yahoo! groups, bondage mostly, run by a Mistress named Courtney. She's a lesbian with a sub life partner.

In a chat session, she told me once she will drop half a sleeping pill in her lover's drink (I'm pretty sure is was non-alcoholic!) and it put her to sleep long enough for Miss Courtney to completely tie and gag her.

I wasn't shy about telling her I didn't approve of her method. Though she said she'd done it time and again.

I doubt I ever would, personally.
Christyne

Re: Sleep

Postby tapegaglover! » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:44 am

About the food thing, just about any food puts me to sleep lol. Even without food, I'm out like a light around 3:00. I have no idea why. I'm just a sleepy person. Except at night. I could stay awake all day, being exhausted all day, but when night comes, I can't fall asleep.
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Re: Sleep

Postby PetSilkenvixen » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:45 am

Actually, telling that reminded me of a play session with my former (soon ex-former, he came back and tied me up a couple of weeks ago!!) playmate, also a CD. He'd been hurt doing some physical fitness thing, yanked a muscle, and was on muscle relaxants that he said always made him sleep.

I didn't go for the idea at first, but it was time for him to take one anyway. After getting dressed he took a pill, we went to the basement where he was gagged and hogtied, and as I tied her up she was feeling the effects of the medication. I made sure the knot on the wrists was easy to get out of, we'd been tying each other up for years and we both know how to tie up the other so she can get out after we leave her.

Debriefing some days later, my friend told me he'd panicked for a moment after waking up, then remembered what happened, and enjoyed a good struggling session before getting free.

Ever since then I've wondered about trying it myself, but I don't think I ever will. That's just me :)
Christyne

Re: Sleep

Postby PetSilkenvixen » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:45 am

tapegaglover! wrote:About the food thing, just about any food puts me to sleep lol. Even without food, I'm out like a light around 3:00. I have no idea why. I'm just a sleepy person. Except at night. I could stay awake all day, being exhausted all day, but when night comes, I can't fall asleep.


We need to have a playdate sometime ;)
Christyne

Re: Sleep

Postby Panda » Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:28 pm

Ambien might work, it's supposed to quick in within 15 minutes and last for up to 2-3 hours........ its what doctors will prescribe to insomniacs. I've never drugged myself though, so I can't speak for how effective it'd be.

Re: Sleep

Postby Panda » Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:07 pm

Like most things though, it can have side effects, and you can develop a dependency on the drug.

Re: Sleep

Postby Nuclearo » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:48 pm

So anyone has any details on sleep inducers? Obviously you shouldn't randomly do it to people before checking they don't take something else, but you know if they're dangerous on their own?
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Re: Sleep

Postby subman1138 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:10 pm

assuming you want someone unconscious to tie them up, you could both go drinking and have your target consume a lot of alcohol until he/she passes out. when you are drunk and asleep you are not easily woken.

Re: Sleep

Postby Nuclearo » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:23 pm

subman1138 wrote:assuming you want someone unconscious to tie them up, you could both go drinking and have your target consume a lot of alcohol until he/she passes out. when you are drunk and asleep you are not easily woken.

But many times when you fall asleep really drunk you wake up and vomit. Not only is that a little off-putting, but if you gag them they could choke and die. Not to mention that if they're hungover the tie up game won't be too fun for them >.>
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Re: Sleep

Postby subman1138 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:35 pm

Nuclearo wrote:
subman1138 wrote:assuming you want someone unconscious to tie them up, you could both go drinking and have your target consume a lot of alcohol until he/she passes out. when you are drunk and asleep you are not easily woken.

But many times when you fall asleep really drunk you wake up and vomit. Not only is that a little off-putting, but if you gag them they could choke and die. Not to mention that if they're hungover the tie up game won't be too fun for them >.>


very true. if done carefully i feel like it could work, i mean when your young you only get hungover when you drink wayyyyyyyyy too much, and if you get enough water too you should be able to deter vomiting. but i digress, nuclearo is right, it probably is too dangerous.

another idea: you could keep your target awake for a long time, like 24hrs+ so that he/she would be sleep deprived and when they finally do go to sleep, they would be in an uninterpretable slumber. you could keep yourself up to do the tying with coffee and then nap after they are tied up.

Re: Sleep

Postby anjell » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:40 pm

getting them drunk or slipping them something is not a good thing to do under and situation and i'm talking from experience. for the simple fact everyone reacts differently to being drunk and drugs. i know people who if drunk they don't pass out they have more energy. and i'm not even going to talk about what can happen if you try to drug some one. if you must put some one to sleep try boring them to sleep. i mentioned food before just to show that there are nicer ways. but way i look at it if you need to knock some one out just to play, then you should not even be playing with them. but if you can make a game out of it, say "see if you can pretend to sleep wile i do different things with you" them knowing before hand you might tie them up can be fun.
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Re: Sleep

Postby tapegaglover! » Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:12 pm

Alcohol can cause alcohol poisoning.
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Re: Sleep

Postby snobound » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:21 pm

Total sleep deprivation for your subject leading up to the desired moment of fun? I once skipped going to sleep altogether the night before being trusssed up in a sleep sack. Once I was laced up and strapped in side, and once the initial excitement had passed, I slept like a baby for six hours in the thing.
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Re: Sleep

Postby Fesselfan » Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:38 pm

When being drunk the body reacts differently. Reasoning decreases, one can't judge situations that good anymore. IMHO, playing with someone who is drunk is among the more stupid things one can do.
Gladly, most people who have some real experiences won't try that idiocy, it's mostly mentioned by people who just play mind games.

Cheers

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Re: Sleep

Postby uemndlr » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:03 am

How about hypnosis?

Re: Sleep

Postby wolfzero » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:20 pm

Anything you inhale is dangerous because it goes straight to the brain by your blood stream, if you want to put sum1 to sleep that way you will need an anesthesiologist. The "safest" way would be sleeping pills, tough those are controlled substances and you need the right dose per weight and age. There is a simpler way, but if dangerous if you don't know what you are doing: choke-holds. If you ever watched pro wrestling you should be familiar with the sleeper hold, it works by cutting the blood flow into the brain by applying pressure to the sides of the neck where the main artery that goes in the brain is, it can put a person to sleep in 4 to 5 seconds but if you overdo it you can cause brain damage or break the neck. If you are going to use that any self defense or judo class will teach you how to apply one safely.

Re: Sleep

Postby Plueschbabycd » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:43 pm

uemndlr wrote:How about hypnosis?

Hallo I thought allso that cut work, but must learn do and not think it would not work against your will. I hear that it give a you can do against the will. But would you get problems if cam out.
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