Postby drawscore » Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:20 am
>>>I will stop disparaging you when you cease disparaging the President. Just giving you what you give him. You display an alarming lack of decency--indeed citizenship, similar in kind to much of the right-wing reactionary Republicans these days, whose stated goal was to destroy Obama from the day he was elected.<<<
The difference, is that the president is not arguing his position with me. You are. Now, when he and his attorney general stop stonewalling congress, and issuing edicts, rather than working with congress, then I might back off. If I am face to face with him, I will show him the courtesy and respect his office deserves, but I want it clearly understood, that the office of the president deserves respect. The person that occupies the office must earn it. There is a difference.
And don't confuse me with others that say they want him to fail. I don't. I do want his policies to fail, because I do not agree with them. There is a difference there, too.
>>>By the way, the Bush depression was going full blast when Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, with 750,000 jobs being lost every month. You can't turn the Titanic around in one month. Unemployment went up to over 10%, and would have been far worse if the government had not passed the stimulus, passed with no Republican support, even though 1/3 of it was agreed to by Obama for tax cuts (which don't do much to stimulate the economy, as you no doubt know), insisted on by the two Maine Republicans, who proceeded to vote against it. So much for "loving your country" in a time of emergency.<<<
Three and a half years later, and it's still "all Bush's fault." That might have worked for the first couple of years, but not any more. I'm not buying it, and a lot of others, even on the left, aren't buying it, either. Obama told those with legal claims against General Motors, to "take a hike," and turned it over to the UAW as a part of the "stimulus" you tout.
>>>If the private sector is failing then it is the government's job to step in and save the country--my definition of patriotism. Left to the capitalist class, their greed would probably have destroyed the entire world economy. Of course, as soon as the big banks went belly up with their nefarious schemes on housing they ran to Uncle Sam for a bailout.<<<
No, the government's job is to stay the hell out of the private sector, except where necessary, as in inspecting foods, and preventing or regulating insider trading in the stock market. Bailing out big banks, Wall Street firms, and auto makers, is not a function of government, nor should it be. Telling banks or other lending institutions that they must loan money to uncreditworthy customers, is also not a function of government, despite what Chris Dodd and Barney Frank think.
>>>While the economy is still not anywhere near full recovery, the depression may be over and we have experienced 27 months of private sector job growth. The reason unemployment is over 8% has a lot to do with all of the state jobs lost--teachers, firemen, constrction workers, and Police officers-- all let go due to State's having to balance their budgets. The stimulus also aided the states to keep these jobs, but that has also run out. The Republicans refuse to support the President's jobs program, which would go a way to alleviating the unemployment picture. And you were probably also against helping the auto industry avoid bankruptcy, which would have led to more lost jobs.<<<
States have constitutions that require a balanced budget, something the federal government does not have. And teachers, firefighters, and most police officers are all local hires by city and county governments. Please explain how Georgia's requirement for a balanced budget, affects the hiring of teachers by Ware County (Waycross), or has affected it in the past.
>>>Obama had Speaker Boehner and the House leadership over to negotiate a budget deal to avoid their debt ceiling showdown, only to have them renege and cause the ratings agencies to downgrade the US credit worthiness. More unpatriotic behavior. God forbid that a millionaire or billionaire pay a dime more in taxes!<<<
Did you miss the part where the Senate rejected the proposed Obama budget by a vote of 99-0? He couldn't even get votes from members of his own party, not even from Harry Reid. And yet, it''s the Republicans that are the obstructionists. Yeah, right.
>>>Finally, Mitt Romney will return us to the policies of George W. Bush, which got us into this mess in the first place. Nothing he has said indicates otherwise.<<<
And Obama brought us the second term of Jimmy Carter, who, despite his public pronouncements of support for Obama, must surely be pleased that there is no longer the possibility that he (Carter) will go down as the worst president in the history of the nation. "W" was not the sharpest tool in the shed, but he was a far sight better than Obama. The other difference, is that Romney will do what he thinks is good for the country. Obama will do what he thinks is good for Obama.
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