dress code

Postby Jay Feely » Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:27 am

A girl told her shirt was photoshopped to remove image that is deemed offensive from her yearbook. What has this world came to?
You will have to subdue me to restrain me. I been a bad boy so make sure you torture me too with anything but pain.

Re: dress code

Postby Kyle » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:56 pm

No more details than this?

Re: dress code

Postby Jay Feely » Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:59 pm

You will have to subdue me to restrain me. I been a bad boy so make sure you torture me too with anything but pain.

Re: dress code

Postby tony2 » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:08 am

Next they'll convene Act Two of the Salem Witch Trials for those that don't fit the arbitrary standards of those in control. Dress decorum is fine and necessary for teens to establish guidelines and telling them their dress is inappropriate the day of the photos is a learning experience. Simply photoshopping the prints ex post facto teaches nothing but disdain and mistrust of the authority itself.
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Re: dress code

Postby wataru14 » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:30 am

There was absolutely nothing wrong with what she was wearing before.

Re: dress code

Postby Jason Toddman » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:46 am

wataru14 wrote:There was absolutely nothing wrong with what she was wearing before.

At least by 2015 standards. It might've raised a few eyebrows in my graduation class in 1974 though, I think. yet at the same time miniskirts were still in fashion. Go figure.
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Re: dress code

Postby Kyle » Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:09 pm

It could've been handled a lot better than simply photoshopping the pictures.

Re: dress code

Postby drawscore » Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:18 pm

I remember back in the 60's, some radio DJ got in hot water for saying on the air, that if girls' skirts got any shorter, they'd have two more cheeks to powder, and a little more hair to comb.

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Re: dress code

Postby Jason Toddman » Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:58 pm

Kyle wrote:It could've been handled a lot better than simply photoshopping the pictures.

Oh, I most definitely agree with that... especially considering the sexist double standard so prominently displayed by whoever came up with the idea.
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Re: dress code

Postby Oohmynameisblue » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:00 pm

I thought it was the girls at first who were Photoshopped...but no, it was the school. Who quite frankly should have known better than that. The things that you can do on Photoshop make you wonder how much they really did change them.

Re: dress code

Postby Kyle » Wed May 06, 2015 6:54 pm

Meanwhile, in France, a girl got banned from class for having skirts that are too long. Some of my high school teachers would've loved to deal with this problem rather than the reverse.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... w-30668350

Apparently, long skirts are religious wear now.

Re: dress code

Postby Jason Toddman » Wed May 06, 2015 9:37 pm

This world gets nuttier by the day.
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Re: dress code

Postby tony2 » Sat May 09, 2015 10:56 pm

jason ---
Are you intimating a dress code coming for squirrels that gather nuts (or run for politics in california?
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Re: dress code

Postby Jason Toddman » Sun May 10, 2015 2:43 am

tony2 wrote:jason ---
Are you intimating a dress code coming for squirrels that gather nuts (or run for politics in california?

Uhhhhh... What? :worried: What a nutty question. :P
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Re: dress code

Postby sarobah » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:30 pm

To resurrect an old thread...
This makes me so angry I want to spit!
http://www.thelocal.de/20150626/refugee ... rm-modesty

The issue is not refugees. I am 100% in favour of accepting and in fact increasing the admission of refugees (and immigrants in general). As well as for humanitarian reasons, it is good for society and ultimately for the economy.

But this is outrageous. Once more females must take personal responsibility for the behaviour of those males who cannot or will not control their emotions and desires. It's the old story. When it comes to human rights, the womenfolk always must go to the back of the queue.
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Re: dress code

Postby Kyle » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:01 pm

If women's dress codes being in place are blamed off on men being terrible evil creatures who can't control themselves, what do we blame the fact men also have dress codes on?

Re: dress code

Postby AlexUSA » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:06 pm

We can twist and say that girls can't control their emotions and desires and therefore dress "scantily" to attract suitors. It goes both ways in the dressing game, and I myself dress modestly by male standards. It forces people to look at my personality, not my figure.

I am an oddball though in that I think a girl wearing a skirt and blouse is more beautiful than girl wearing short shorts and a tube top. I have personal preferences too detailed to explain why here.

And I say this as a person who thinks athletic shorts are the sexiest thing a girl can where.
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Re: dress code

Postby Kelly » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:36 pm

I wear shorts and summer clothes because it's comfortable and warm in the summer, never because I have a hard time controlling my emotions or desires. It's because the weather is warm. A guy raping a girl and blaming it on her clothing is absurd and degrading.

Re: dress code

Postby AlexUSA » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:40 pm

Kelly wrote:I wear shorts and summer clothes because it's comfortable and warm in the summer, never because I have a hard time controlling my emotions or desires. It's because the weather is warm. A guy raping a girl and blaming it on her clothing is absurd and degrading.


I understand your point. All I seek to point out is the double-edged sword, or rather light sabre. There are arguments and counter-arguments for every discussion point you or I or anyone else can come up with.
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Re: dress code

Postby Kelly » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:41 pm

There are, but that is a very weak counter-argument to justify rape. Which should not be something one seeks to justify anyway.

Re: dress code

Postby Kyle » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:17 pm

I'm not sure I'm following the conversation to how we got to the idea we were trying to "justify rape."

Re: dress code

Postby Kelly » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:28 pm

Admittedly it did take a turn off subject from the original post, I just felt it was implied when men being unable to control their emotions and desires due to the way a woman is dressed. If that was not what the poster meant, then I stand corrected and don't want to get in any arguments or debates, they seem to degenerate here when that happens. I will stand by what I said though if that is what the poster meant.

Re: dress code

Postby Kyle » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:11 pm

I just wanted to make sure I didn't misunderstand something here.

Re: dress code

Postby sarobah » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:19 pm

Kelly wrote:Admittedly it did take a turn off subject from the original post, I just felt it was implied when men being unable to control their emotions and desires due to the way a woman is dressed.

This is the implication when a dress code is imposed that is specifically aimed at females because what we wear is considered likely to arouse or disturb males.

From the article...
"The refugees are marked by their own culture. Because our school is directly next to where they are staying, modest clothing should be adhered to, in order to avoid discrepancies. Revealing tops or blouses, short shorts or miniskirts could lead to misunderstandings."
Admittedly there may be a translation problem here, but this implies that the imposed dress code is directed at more than merely preventing certain people being offended (which would be bad enough). It's straight-out victim-blaming.

How many times * do we see news stories about how girls' school uniforms and dress codes are being designed/redesigned to save boys from being distracted?

* If I could be bothered doing the Google search, I would find multiple examples.
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Re: dress code

Postby Kelly » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:26 pm

Thank you for articulating that a little bit better than I did, Sarobah. That sums up exactly what I was getting at.

Re: dress code

Postby 31acujoker » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:34 am

If a guy can't keep his thoughts in check it's his own fault, not the girl's. It's never the victim's fault

And I say this as a guy
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Re: dress code

Postby AlexUSA » Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:09 am

I personally couldn't care less about the "justify rape" angle because it's not what I am getting at; that's a point that can't be argued because a person should always be in control of his actions, even when it comes to eating a third piece of cake at a birthday party. All I am saying is that I personally think long skirts are prettier than mini-skirts.
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Re: dress code

Postby Sealherlips » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:36 am

31acujoker wrote:If a guy can't keep his thoughts in check it's his own fault, not the girl's. It's never the victim's fault

And I say this as a guy


Oh the tired "pander to sluts" argument. It's not about guy's thoughts, it's about teaching kids to dress appropriately. You don't show up to a job interview wearing a miniskirt that shows your thong. Quit blaming men just because teen girls want to be sluts. Boys have dress codes too. So don't make excuses for girls.

Re: dress code

Postby Sealherlips » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:41 am

I got in trouble for having holes in my pants because I only owned two pairs. Holes and frays below the knees. I later worked in a plant with the same rule. What it boils down to is girls crying because they can't show off their body. There is no double standard. Boys just don't bitch about the rule.

Re: dress code

Postby wataru14 » Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:58 am

Who decides what is "appropriate?" And what criteria do they use? I see nothing wrong with girls "dressing like sluts." I do see something wrong with telling girls they must be modest when boys do not.