Reaper1711 wrote:ok let me debunk your thoughts really quick.
1. there were no primates alive during the time of the dinosaurs.
2. the average size of a mammal alive at that time was about the size of an average dog at the very most.
3. dinosaurs were huge reptiles and they needed a lot of food everyday just to keep going if they starved they died.
4. the asteroid in question which hit the gulf of mexico (with the force of 9million nuclear warheads) was 9 miles long approximately.
5. the force of an asteroid that big hitting the earth, would cause an aftermath of huge climate change, resulting in poor air quality, huge storms, forest fires, earth quakes, tsunamis. (basically Armageddon)
6.the only thing that saved the mammals most likely was their size they needed a lot less food to live and the fact that they invested in their young which is probably one of the main reasons we are here today.
fabolous1024 wrote:^ This.
Do you really think a meteor literally blew up half of the Earth and physically killed everything all at once? It's amazing what a small meteor and as Reaper said, massive and sudden climate change will do to.... basically all life on Earth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous ... tion_event
Wiki is for winners.
Reaper1711 wrote:3. dinosaurs were huge reptiles and they needed a lot of food everyday just to keep going if they starved they died.
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6.the only thing that saved the mammals most likely was their size they needed a lot less food to live and the fact that they invested in their young which is probably one of the main reasons we are here today.
Lonewolf wrote:But they don't say how we became if we evolved from ape. (Tell me if I'm wrong because I read only the first half.
Lonewolf wrote:
But they don't say how we became if we evolved from ape. (Tell me if I'm wrong because I read only the first half.
Samanthaboundx wrote:
My inner-nerd is halfway between laughing hysterically and sobbing in despair after reading this. . .
fabolous1024 wrote:Yah I facepalmed a few times on this thread.
Lonewolf wrote:
But they don't say how we became if we evolved from ape. (Tell me if I'm wrong because I read only the first half.
xtc wrote:Lonewolf wrote:
But they don't say how we became if we evolved from ape. (Tell me if I'm wrong because I read only the first half.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the theory of evolution claims that we eveloved from apes, merely that we share a common ancestor (? the missing link?)
Is anyone else worried that anti-evolutionists ( and even creationists) are teaching maths and even science in our schools?
Lonewolf wrote:Even though it says that exact evidence had been found at the end of page 2, the evidence there convinces me enough, and this is also what got me thinking after he sent me the article.
soka1 wrote:I laughed at the article and title...
Princeton isn't right at anything, at the article is from 2004!!:) Too much laughter... Can't breath... Haha!!
fabolous1024 wrote:Lonewolf wrote:Even though it says that exact evidence had been found at the end of page 2, the evidence there convinces me enough, and this is also what got me thinking after he sent me the article.
You're easily convinced; that's a bad quality. No scientist would tell you that yes, the Yucatan impact was, without question, the cause of the dinosaur extinction. Unfortunately, since most people are incapable of thinking scientifically and critically, most people learn in elementary school about a meteor impact and think "yes, that is it, no questions asked". The reality is that a lot of evidence points to that being the cause. However, as you can see, there may be evidence pointing to other possibilities or evidence not in favor of a certain cause. This other hypothesis may turn out to be wrong or maybe it has already been shown to be wrong (behind every well-established theory lays dozens or hundreds hypotheses that turned out to be wrong). Who knows? I certainly am not interested in wasting a lot of time in finding out as it is not my field of study.
The argument is not whether or not X impact caused the extinction vs. Y impact. We're not geologists. This is not a geology forum. What we're arguing against is your way of thinking. This is kind of similar to the people who come around saying the Big Bang didn't happen. They'll say things like "the Big Bang is wrong because there is no oxygen in space". Now, there is no 100% agreed upon model of the earliest universe, but all the evidence points to a big bang type event in any case. The problem with a person who says something like that is that the actual theory doesn't even say there was an explosion, just like the extinction event theories don't say there was a blast that suddenly and near instantly decimated life on Earth. So you're arguing a theory is wrong without actually knowing the science behind it (which for some reason is an acceptable thing in society).soka1 wrote:I laughed at the article and title...
Princeton isn't right at anything, at the article is from 2004!!:) Too much laughter... Can't breath... Haha!!
So? The dating of an article is irrelevant. That's like saying Einstein was wrong about Relativity because he published it in 1905. Also, please don't mock research institutions doing research that you probably couldn't even begin to understand.
skybird137 wrote:The main argument of the Nat Geo article is that:
The Yucatan impact did not cause a quick mass extinction.
Another impact 300,00 years later did.
So by putting this article forward, are you agreeing that an impact did cause a massive mass extinction, which essentially wiped out the dinosaurs?
Lonewolf wrote:skybird137 wrote:The main argument of the Nat Geo article is that:
The Yucatan impact did not cause a quick mass extinction.
Another impact 300,00 years later did.
So by putting this article forward, are you agreeing that an impact did cause a massive mass extinction, which essentially wiped out the dinosaurs?
Isn't it obvious from the title that I'm saying the asteroid DIDN'T kill them.
Lonewolf wrote:I said that I think it wasn't an asteroid or other heavenly bodie that killed the dinosours and other animals.