Jason Toddman wrote:Could you explain that a little more, please? I'm a tad vague on what it is you're saying here.
Kyle wrote:If we're going to get involved, let's at least make sure we do the job right.
drawscore wrote:If you go to war, whether under a Democrat, or a Republican, you go in to win. You do what you have to do. You don't tie the hands of the military. If it takes the public execution of a few terrorists, then throwing their bodies into six feet of pig shit, you do it. You don't "play nice." You go in, you kick ass, and and give the impression that if they screw with you again, this first time will seem like a picnic in the park, compared to what will happen the next time; that the wrath of whatever deity they worship, is nothing, compared to the wrath of a division of pissed off Marines.
Teddy Roosevelt was right. "Speak softly, and carry a big stick."
Curtis LeMay was right, too: "If you kill enough of them, they'll quit fighting."
Happy Veterans Day.
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drawscore wrote:If it takes the public execution of a few terrorists, then throwing their bodies into six feet of pig shit, you do it. You don't "play nice." You go in, you kick ass, and and give the impression that if they screw with you again, this first time will seem like a picnic in the park, compared to what will happen the next time; that the wrath of whatever deity they worship, is nothing, compared to the wrath of a division of pissed off Marines.
misterg792000 wrote:
Yes, make yourself no better than the extremists you're claiming to fight. That'll get those hearts and minds. Nothing has made islamic extremists stand down like slaughtering entire families and desecrating their bodies.
By the way, enough of the "pig shit" nonsense. While it is hilarious in a way that certain people think muslims are vampires and pork is garlic, it doesn't help you at all.
Chris12 wrote:I think we can dig up plenty of instances in history to show Drawscore's idea is just as likely to backfire. Being a cartoonish supervillain isn't going to endear a nation to its foes. It just gives them propaganda to keep fighting.
Wars aren't just won on the battlefield. Winning the political battle may be even more important.
''Its better to be feared then it is to be loved'' Is a common misquotation. The actual lesson goes like ''If you cannot have both it is better to be feared then to be loved but it is absolutely crucial to avoid being hated''
Jason Toddman wrote:His point - such as it is - is that a Muslim would consider this the ultimate desecration of a devout Muslim imaginable. The fact that it would be pretty insulting to virtually everyone else as well doesn't seem to enter into the picture.
Jason Toddman wrote:'The new breed of terrorists are certainly failing to, but so are a lot of people elsewhere.
misterg792000 wrote:My point is that it's not "the ultimate desecration" any more than a Jew getting pinched by a crab would be
drawscore wrote:There are allegations that Arthur MacArthur (Douglas MacArthur's father), when serving as the governor of the Philippines, was having trouble with fanatical Muslims, and to solve the problem, he rounded up 50 of them, lined them up, and shot 49 of them, then threw the bodies into a pit containing pig carcasses. The 50th one, he let go, to report back to his bosses, what he had seen. Guess what? Arthur MacArthur did not have any more fanatical Muslim problems.
(This action has also been attributed to Gen. John J. "Black Jack" Pershing, and to Gen. George S. Patton.)
(And since Snopes is run by a husband and wife team of hard core liberal Democrats, I would want a second opinion if they said water was wet.)
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drawscore wrote:(And since Snopes is run by a husband and wife team of hard core liberal Democrats, I would want a second opinion if they said water was wet.)