*Not a story* Thread naming

Postby 07FG1 » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:07 pm

First of all I'd like to say that im not trying to offend or step on anyones toes, just asking a favor. Recently I've noticed a fare amount of the threads in mainly this section are just given names and not designated m/f, f/m, m/m, f/f and so on. Me personally, it frustrates me when the thread is not designated m/f and so on and I get half way finished with the story and it turns out its about two dudes (just an example) :? and thats not the type of story I enjoy reading =/. So, kindly, if the writers could try to designate the threads more that would be much appreciated :odd:. Like I said earlier im not trying to be rude, offend anyone, or step on any toes just asking a favor. Thanks!

P.S. Im sure there's a better section more suited for threads like this one but I figured here it would get seen more. :wink:

Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby tapegaglover! » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:25 pm

I agree.
I love a woman bound and gagged in tape.

Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby xtc » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:00 pm

Fair remark but, if you've already got "half way finished" with a story, surely it can't have been that bad so far?
Look at recent posts where authors have deliberately left gender considerations open. Would you deny yourself the pleasure/interest of reading them?
I'll give you a hint: skip anything signed "xtc" as it will certainly not be your bag (except, perhaps "Ratbag Loves Fishpaste" but my guess is that it wouldn't be your favourite either!).

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Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby 07FG1 » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:10 pm

Where in the story the reader realizes the gender of the participants is irrelevant, I used "half way finished" as purely an example; it could be a quarter of the way through or three quarters of the way through. Im assuming by asking "if you've already got "half way finished" with a story, surely it can't have been that bad so far?" you mean hey if I havent left by now it must be a OK story right? True, but on a site where a vast majority of the readers expect great detail surely a simple gender designation wont be a problem, right? I'm not saying there is anything wrong with people who chose a different TUG partner than I would, its simply none of my business. Just asking for a simple heads up on the gender of the participants so were not left guessing when we read the story.

Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby tyme115 » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:25 pm

I agree too, again, don't get me wrong, I'm not offended or anything, would just be helpful knowing the genders before reading the story. Also helps people who are looking for certain stories whether it be m/m or f/f or a mix. Maybe people who are looking for a m/m story, read a f/m story and quit after they get "half way through".

Anyhoooo, just me two cents

Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby Kyle » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:30 pm

There have already been about 5,000 other threads started on this topic.

Well, I have to say it's been a while now that I think about it. So it's not as bad as I initially posted on here. But this is something that's come up before.

Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby chloroformmeplease » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:52 am

I totatlly agree with naming the type of story it is. Then again i have also seen stories labeled. F/M,M/F. Then it turned out to be M/F and then F/M,ahh big deal you might say. List the order in order I always say sort of like A,B,C and 1,2,3. It only makes sense.

Some forums which are similar to this one have to be labeled in order to be posted in the forum. Yes it makes it easier and less frustrating and I for one am glad someone else took the troulbe to point this out again. As many times as it is pointed out it is also ignored. Sort of like trying to put a square piece in a round hole if you get my meaning.
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How About a Required Field for Posting Stories?

Postby Jason Toddman » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:56 pm

I usually just glance through a story first to see if it'd be interesting to me or not; it usually only takes me a few seconds to see what kind of story it is (and whether it is interesting or even readable or not).
Even so, I usually label my own stories anyway (not all are M/M, though most are) for consideration of others who don't check for new stories as frequently as I do.
Maybe Zanev or someone could add a required field (just like a title, which is required in the first place) for a new post (limited to True Tugs, Intimate Tugs, and Fictional Tugs of course) selecting what type of story it is. The poster could check all that apply: M/M/; M/F; F/F; F/M; mixed; self, BDSM, muliple tiers, multiple victims, other.
It does get a bit complicated but that way you can see in a glance what story elements of specific interest to some peoiple might be involved. Just a thought.
BTW shouldn't this be under Suggestions, Tugstalk, or General Chat rather than More Intimate Tugs?
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Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby 07FG1 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:25 pm

Like I said in the op, I figured it would get seen more here. I figure im not the only one who doesnt frequent said sections.

Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby likho » Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:27 am

I agree. Marking stories with letters (m/m, f/m, m/f, f/f) is a good idea.

I see it’s just another problem with english grammar ;) I had always problem with it at school. And I’ve always asked my teacher, how english-speakers know about whom they are talking about. Even if the name is given, it’s still not clear if it’s boy or a girl, as some male names are considered as a female names in other parts of Europe (Alex for example). She used to say, they are guessing from the context :)

So, how about doing it this way:
F – adult female (mom, aunt, teacher), f – teen female (babysitter, older sister), g – girl (little sister)
M – adult male (dad, uncle, teacher), m – teen male (babysiter, older brother), b – boy (little brother)

Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby chloroformmeplease » Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:54 am

A personal preference but guess what I am not doing anymore? I am not going to read any story that is not marked f/m or f/f or m/f etc.

For the record some stories never even specify gender at all. One can always go back and edit their title as well to include such tags. I do think all stories should be tagged. They are on the majority of story forums.
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Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby snobound » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:15 pm

I appreciate the fact that this board doesn't require stories to be labeled. Some forums are as segregated as the pre-1960's South. I would hate to see this site develop into "us" vs. "them" sections. Anyone who frequently visits this board will quickly learn the general preferences of its regular authors, and choose which posts to read accordingly. I would have thought that, on this board, the over-arching subject matter of tie-ups would trump narrow preferences pertaining to gender or sexuality, but I guess not.

For the record, I will label all of my future stories so as not to offend anyone.
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Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby fratboydanny » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:44 pm

Snobound is spot on. even though i have used such a description for my story, this thread seems a bit antagonistic and i would not have expected that here.

Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby 07FG1 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:26 pm

Why do you two think this thread is antagonistic and that the people involved in the tugs stoies are offending people? Im not trying to fuel the fire but im curious to see your guy's perspective. This thread was not directed toward anybody or any wrighting orientation, if you will, just a simple request. People have said they are not offended and why should they be? Who the people chose to engage in tugs with is their business and their only trying to share their story with others who have simmilar interest (tugs) and thats great, more power to them.

Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby snobound » Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:54 pm

I've stated my perspective. I don't resent, nor am I offended by your request.
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Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby Jason Toddman » Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:09 pm

It's not the thread that is antagonistic; perhaps just some of the responses to it.
While it is certainly reasonable to request that writers label what kind of story it is (M/M and so forth), I think it is a bit harsh of some people to insist on it and make people who do not seem to be not worth reading or something.
For instance Chloroformmeplease, I wish to (respectfully) point out that many of your own stories (granted mainly the older ones) are not so labelled either.
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Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby xtc » Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:18 pm

If anybody finds my response to this, pease could the Mods re-direct it? Or at least can someone tell me where I posted it!
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Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby Jason Toddman » Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:35 pm

xtc wrote:If anybody finds my response to this, pease could the Mods re-direct it? Or at least can someone tell me where I posted it!


Can't find it with Search User's Posts using your name, so I don't think it went *anywhere*, unless you accidentally PMed to somebody.
We ARE talking about a different post than the Sept 27 post up above (third one down from the top), aren't we?
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Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby xtc » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:19 am

We are. I deliberately wrote a contentious posting for discussion.
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Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby Jason Toddman » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:31 am

Well, I guess it got lost in Limbo. I find nothing under Search User's Posts that would be the missing post in question in any possible time frame.
Maybe you can re-write it - using the frustration you might feel in so doing to help make it even more contentious (for whatever reason you wanted it to be).
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Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby BondageChris » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:58 am

I too agree. I dont read m/f stories so i helps me

Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby Jason Toddman » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:59 am

This is not to diss Bondagechris or anyone else, since this is a matter of pure taste, but personally I have never understand this kind of choosiness myself. I enjoy stories based on how well they are written and what the participants do; the gender of either makes absolutely no difference to me. Each type of story in fact had its own interesting possibilities that others may lack, and I enjoy them all!
I find how well a story is written is MUCH more important to me than if it is m/m/ f/f, or whatever. Not just grammar and spelling, but how well the person writes. One person on this board for example writes very entertaining stories but his English is not quite perfect; but IMHO the way he writes almost makes this a strength in itself by adding an innocent charm to everything he writes. Another has very good (if occasionally inconsistent) English writing skills but I find his stories so dull and self serving that they are often unreadable to me. My own stories are probably a major turn-off to some people here because of explicit content regardless of the gender of the participants (usually but not always m/m).
IMHO ignoring what might be an otherwise excellent story just because the gender of the people in the story don't fit the scenarios you'd like to be yourself (m/f for Bondagechris for instance) seems like sheer snobbery! As far as I am concerned, TUGs are TUGs, and all TUGS stories are *good* TUGs stories (and well written ones are even better)!!!
It's everyone's right of course not to read certain stories; I would never say otherwise. I just think people cheat themselves and lose out on reading on excellent stories when they avoid certain types - regardless of which type they prefer to avoid. There are some real gems out there in each of the major categories (m/m, f/f, f/m, m/f, mixed).
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Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby 07FG1 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:41 pm

I think also a big part of what type of stories people chose to read is how they stand on tugs. Some people like it for the challenge or fun and maybe nothing more, but others can like it for the challenge, fun, and the intimate aspect of it. I apoligize Jason but I havent read many of your stories but im gonna step out on a limb and guess you enjoy tugs for the fun/challenging side of it rather then the intimate side? If im wrong i apoligize, please dont feel obligated to say one way or the other either. I know if I wasnt into tugs for the intimate aspect of them I could definatly see myself reading stories for the story itself and the expirence of the poster rather then focous on details like gender and the content of the story and such.

Re: *Not a story* Thread naming

Postby Jason Toddman » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:52 pm

07FG1 wrote:I think also a big part of what type of stories people chose to read is how they stand on tugs. Some people like it for the challenge or fun and maybe nothing more, but others can like it for the challenge, fun, and the intimate aspect of it. I apoligize Jason but I havent read many of your stories but im gonna step out on a limb and guess you enjoy tugs for the fun/challenging side of it rather then the intimate side? If im wrong i apoligize, please dont feel obligated to say one way or the other either. I know if I wasnt into tugs for the intimate aspect of them I could definatly see myself reading stories for the story itself and the expirence of the poster rather then focous on details like gender and the content of the story and such.

Actually I've enjoyed Tugs for all the reasons you -stated. -- :)
No need to apologize if you haven't mread my stories, but if it's intimacy you like some of my stories do focus on that (or at least the physicval aspects of it - perhaps to excess at times for some peoples' taste.
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