>>>Well said, but which of us is the fool?<<<
<<<Not my decision to make, although I do have my own opinion.>>>
Well, duh. Can't you be more original? That's exactly what
I said!!!
>>>Similar petitions were filed following the 2004 election (and, yes, the 2008 election as well) when Bush won his second term.<<<
<<<True, but they were not reported on, or even mentioned in the mainstream media.>>>
Gee, why not if the mainstream media leans as far to the left as you claim it does? In any case these are a few thousand disgruntled nut-jobs, not a groundswell of popular opinion.
>>>If even part of a reason a state wants to secede is that your actually getting something resembling real health care then something is very wrong it that state.<<<
<<<If you think health care is expensive now, wait 'til it's free.">>>
You seem to have the delusion it isn't. Just go to the emergency room with no proof of insurance. They have to take care of you whether you can pay or not. Afterward, well, it's free!

In MY case in fact because I'd been ill a while when I had my cancer operation the hospital had to eat my $65,000 medical bill... and pass on the cost to everyone else! (Sorry!) Now, with Obamacare, they wouldn't have had to do that! They'd have gotten something to show for it. So in the long run which is really more expensive to the rest of you?
>>>>>>the appointment of an avowed communist<<<<<<
>>>Oh, i doubt that. Seriously, i don't think Communist means what you think it means.<<<
<<<What it "means" is immaterial. It's what is true. Van Jones was, and as far as I know, still is, a card-carrying member of the Communist Party USA. Think I'm wrong? Google it.>>>
I have. Except for numerous blogs all spouting the same charge without citing sources, I can find no factual account where (or when) Van Jones actually says this - not even in the Wikipedia articles about him. Instead I find out about Glenn Beck's virtual war of words with him and so forth; nothing even remotely factual or reliable aboiut any communist ties. Other controversies such as his support for some death-row inmate and concerning some petition claiming Bush orchestrated 9/11 were far better documented however. Seems to be sticking with real facts are sufficiently damning to him anyway. Why reach for something like Communism that seems to exist only in the minds of various right-wing bloggers?
>>>Did he claim he kicked down the door of Bin Ladens bedroom and personally knocked his skull open? No, no he didn't so i don't see anything wrong with the statement. A statement any leader would have made if Bin laden was killed when they where in power.<<<
<<<Go back and read the transcript of his speech, or look at the video. I'm sure it's up on YouTube. He used the pronouns "I" and "me" a lot. Then compare that with Bush II at Ground Zero. He was using the pronouns "we" and "us" in his speech.>>>
Non sequitar; your facts are un-coordinated. The subject at hand is a completely different one and does not involve a decision Bush himself was actually making or claiming responsibility for.
>>>Or do you mean the ambassador bombing? that would have happened no matter who was sitting in the white house.<<<
<<<The embassy and the consulate requested help well before the attack, but it never came. Obama (according to some reports) was watching the events unfold in the White House Situation Room. When the attack came, help was less than an hour away, at the American air base at Aviano, and the Sigonella Naval Air Station, both in Italy. Obama sat on his ass and did nothing, and the next day, went to a fund raiser in Las Vegas.>>>
I think there are some distortions here too - "according to some reports" sounds fishy to me; especially coming from you. Anyway, Chris was right; it would have happened regardless of who was in the White House. After all, it was Bush who was President on 9/11, and there's a
lot of evidence of negligence on his part as well before and after. So if you want to point fingers there's plenty of blame to pass around for the both of them.
>>>(and name one president who never lied other than George Washington!)<<<
<<<How about William Henry Harrison. (On March 4, 1841, he gave a 3+ hour inauguration speech in the teeth of inclement weather on the capitol steps, caught pneumonia, and died a month after taking office. He didn't have time to lie about anything.)>>>
It's said he lied in bed.
Okay, bad joke, but if he'd had any sense he'd have dressed for the occasion. By all accounts he was way under-dressed for the weather.
Admittedly i should have thought of that one, but in one sense he DID lie - in his (overlong) inaugural address he promised to do many things. Harrison promised to reestablish the Bank of the United States and extend its capacity for credit by issuing paper currency (Henry Clay's American System); to defer to the judgment of Congress on legislative matters, with sparing use of his veto power; and to reverse Jackson's spoils system of executive patronage. He promised to use patronage to create a qualified staff, not to enhance his own standing in government. Since he died first, technically he lied. Technically.
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