OGgrl93 wrote:The government is trying to sweep everything under the rug. Way back in the 1800's they wanted some land in the south the Natives occupied. The House of Representives passed a bill saying that they don't have to move. It was their land. They were here first. Jackson didn't care what they said. Thus the Trail of Tears. It hits home for me because Cherokee runs in my blood. I cling to anything Native about my ancestory. Natives were and still are beautiful people. They work with nature and the land, not against it. I get what your saying, but how would you feel if like people from China(not racist, China's close to California. Just chose a foreign country) can and started kicking us out for our land and hearding you into reserves when it was your land to begin with? One of my friends is the great great great grand daughter of Cheif Red Cloud. But because he was killed, they family lost the title. We stole land, lives and freedom from them, they have every right to be upset.
markusthe1st wrote:You should take a drive through a native American reservation here in the Southwest before you pass judgement. They say, "Sure, you can have some land," and then give them a spot far away from the city in the desert where there's no water or development at all.
I've seen it. It is not pretty.
bookboy15 wrote:Oh get off you high horse. I refuse to be labeled as an ass because I won't take responsibility or that actions of other long dead persons who happened to have white skin. I've committed no misdeeds to anyone of another color skin and I will not be told that I owe these people anything because my great grandparents did bad thing to there great grand parents. Native americans have an absean ammount of "compinsation" as is, free education, no taxes, no need to purchas hunting or fishing licenses, government compinsation in the form of funding for reserves, etc. as a tax payer that comes out of my pocket and goes into there's. So forgive me for being a little pissed.
Jason Toddman wrote:bookboy15 wrote:Oh get off you high horse. I refuse to be labeled as an ass because I won't take responsibility or that actions of other long dead persons who happened to have white skin. I've committed no misdeeds to anyone of another color skin and I will not be told that I owe these people anything because my great grandparents did bad thing to there great grand parents. Native americans have an absean ammount of "compinsation" as is, free education, no taxes, no need to purchas hunting or fishing licenses, government compinsation in the form of funding for reserves, etc. as a tax payer that comes out of my pocket and goes into there's. So forgive me for being a little pissed.
No one's asking you to take personal responsibility. Just to show a little understanding (sounds like compassion might be too much to hope for) for their point of view. Big difference.
drawscore wrote:I'm an American, and I love my country. But my government scares the hell out of me. ABO (Anybody But Obama) 2012.
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drawscore wrote:Well, that's fine. Of course, if Obama gets a second term, we'll be living under Obama's 9-9-9 plan: Gasoline for $9.99 a gallon by July 2014.
The current crop of Republican contenders does not impress me, either. But I think the Republicans could be bailed out by the late entry of someone like H. Norman Schwartzkopf, Tommy Franks, or David Petreaus. Solid military leaders, solid leadership skills, accomplished public speakers, and not afraid to make the tough decisions. They all know how the world works, and all of whom could make any Democrat mudslinging look like the Dems hated the troops and the military. Not to mention that they'd clean Obama's clock in a debate.
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bookboy15 wrote:I'm surprised at how little support Ron Paul is getting. I don't follow amarican politics as much as some but from the debates I have seen he seems like the best candidit by far.
bookboy15 wrote:I'm surprised at how little support Ron Paul is getting. I don't follow amarican politics as much as some but from the debates I have seen he seems like the best candidit by far.
drawscore wrote: Right, wrong, or indifferent, Ron Paul is largely regarded as an "unelectable fringe candidate." As so many other commentators have said, "80-90% of what he says, I agree with. It's just that 10-20% of his positions come across as 'nutty,' and that's what makes him, in the eyes of many, unelectable."
drawscore wrote: Of course, if Obama gets a second term, we'll be living under Obama's 9-9-9 plan: Gasoline for $9.99 a gallon by July 2014
drawscore wrote:They all know how the world works, and all of whom could make any Democrat mudslinging look like the Dems hated the troops and the military.
drawscore wrote:Not to mention that they'd clean Obama's clock in a debate.
sarobah wrote: Sorry, but I see that as nothing other than plain racism.
drawscore wrote: As for Obama, how short our memories are. Last April, when we were having a budget "crisis," Obama said that if an agreement wasn't reached, our soldiers, both active and retired, might not get paid; that Social Security recipients might not get their checks, and VA pensioners might get cut off.
Not a word about his own pay, the pay of congress, or the pay of cabinet officials and political appointees. No, it was the military, the elderly, and the veterans who were first in Obama's line to be cut, should a budget agreement not be reached. So, yes, I believe he has nothing but contempt and disdain for the military, vets, and the old folks. He is not worthy to be the Commander in Chief, nor president.
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