RIP France !

Postby Chloé Badelaine » Sun May 06, 2012 11:16 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spBOZa87xIY

Looking for some nice foreign people willing to adopt a cute sweet french girl trying to leave her once beloved country before it turns into the third world of europe.
PM me !
What I say is, a town isn't a town without a bookstore. It may call itself a town, but unless it's got a bookstore it knows it's not fooling a soul.

Re: RIP France !

Postby Kyle » Sun May 06, 2012 8:14 pm

Is this because you just had a Socialist president get elected? I think France has a ways to go before it reaches the level of, say, Greece or Serbia.

I'd adopt you but I have nowhere for you to stay.

Re: RIP France !

Postby NaughtyNats » Mon May 07, 2012 2:51 am

France has always been socialist since the Revolution. And France has survived worse than that (e.g. German occupation in World War 2). But if you are looking for somewhere to hide I'm sure we could adopt you for a mutually binding contract.
:evil: :tied: :tickle: :gag: NAUGHTY NATS :gag: :tickle: :tied: :evil:

Maybe blindfold, maybe gagged, always barefoot

Re: RIP France !

Postby skybird137 » Mon May 07, 2012 3:01 am

Personally, all this is France's fault anyway for spending the resources they didn't have securing America's victory in the Revolutionary war. This lead to the French Revolution

Had they not interfered, France would have remained a Monarchy and we would still have the Colonies.
Calling Fifty Shades of Grey a Bondage Story is like calling Titanic an Iceberg Movie...

http://skybird137.deviantart.com

Re: RIP France !

Postby Jason Toddman » Mon May 07, 2012 9:44 am

skybird137 wrote:
Had they not interfered, France would have remained a Monarchy and we would still have the Colonies.

Are you Brits still sore about that?! :D
France might or might not have remained a monarchy, but I doubt Britain would have kept the colonies without imposing such repression that would have added to resistance on both sides of the pond. You want to blame someone for losing the colonies, blame King George III! If he hadn't been such an unreasonable cuss, things would have been different. It was his policies that changed us from contented colonies to rebellious ones to an independent nation. Even if France had not interfered, we would have won - the war would have been bloodier and longer, but in the end we would have won.
In any case, it certainly isn't Chloe's fault!!!
As for you Chloe; if the 'nice' people don't want you then any time you're desperate enough to be adopted by a single dirty (Tugswise, not sexwise) old man who likes to be tied up, let me know! :twisted:
Dare to be different... and make a difference.
To boldly go where no one in their right mind has gone before...

Re: RIP France !

Postby Chris12 » Mon May 07, 2012 10:41 am

Nah, i'd blame France if i where you :D Without them the rebels would have been crushed.

We Dutchie's played our own (smaller) part as well :big:

Re: RIP France !

Postby skybird137 » Mon May 07, 2012 11:04 am

It wasn't just the French though, lol.

We had to face the Spanish and the Netherlands as well. We were fighting four powers overall in the world. It was probably lose the Colonies, or lose everywhere else.

It was the perfect time for the Colonies to break away. Vested interest in seeing Britain's progress halted in the Americas, along with the chance to seize other British colonies, made it a foregone conclusion. We did lose more than the Americas as well at that time.

We were stretched so thin that the outcome was inevitable. Hollywood paints it as some great victory, but we were only able to devote so much to the Revolutionary War.

I know how stupid George III was.

And by the way, I was pulling legs.
Calling Fifty Shades of Grey a Bondage Story is like calling Titanic an Iceberg Movie...

http://skybird137.deviantart.com

Re: RIP France !

Postby Jason Toddman » Mon May 07, 2012 12:49 pm

skybird137 wrote: by the way, I was pulling legs.

I figured as much, hence my tongue in cheek first sentence to my answer.
True, there was more going for the Colonies than just our own merits, and we had a similar break in the War of 1812 thanks to Napoleon. But though you Brits might well have crushed the initial rebellion and held us down more a century or more like you did with, say, India or China, in the end your own consciences about what you were doing to fellow Europeans (or their descendents) would have made this even less popular than the Viet Nam was here. Public sentiment for the colonies was already running pretty high before the French chimed in, and any repression committed here would likely have only worsened the home situation over time... just like foreign wars have been doing ever since. We might not have prevailed militarily, but eventually we'd have been more trouble to you than we were worth.
Besides, the lessons you learned about how you treated us stood you in good stead with dealing with Canada, Australia, and so on. Without these lessons, you might have lost these and more besides too by this time.
Now then, since we have gone way off topic to argue politics once again (and Drawscore didn't even have to help this time!), let's give Chloe back her thread, yes?
Dare to be different... and make a difference.
To boldly go where no one in their right mind has gone before...

Re: RIP France !

Postby drawscore » Mon May 07, 2012 4:28 pm

The French election can be explained in simple terms: More people who receive government benefits, voted to keep their "gravy train" rolling along. They did not understand that the consequences, such as "the rich," wanting to avoid a 75% tax on their earnings, will take their money and move somewhere where the "climate is more friendly" to them, and where the new French government can't get it. With most "the rich" gone, the tax burden will fall on the middle class, and soon enough, there will be an electoral revolt, and the socialists will be booted out of office.

I hope it happens in November, here in the US.

Drawscore

Re: RIP France !

Postby Jason Toddman » Mon May 07, 2012 9:05 pm

Well, so much for Drawscore not helping to add to the confusion!!! :?
First good thing I say about the guy this week and he mucks it up!!! :quirk:
Dare to be different... and make a difference.
To boldly go where no one in their right mind has gone before...

Re: RIP France !

Postby notlongerhere » Mon May 07, 2012 11:25 pm

-
Last edited by notlongerhere on Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:36 am, edited 1 time in total.

Re: RIP France !

Postby Jason Toddman » Mon May 07, 2012 11:34 pm

Chris12 wrote:Nah, i'd blame France if i where you :D Without them the rebels would have been crushed.

We Dutchie's played our own (smaller) part as well :big:

On the flip side, I wonder how world history would have played out if the 'Colonies' had never revolted.
Perhaps with maintained British rule we could have abolished slavery sooner and more peacefully than we did, and avoided the bloody era of the War Between the States... to say nothing of the war of 1812. We would have joined WW I and WW II years earlier than we did and perhaps have greatly shortened both conflicts (if indeed they happened at all). But would the frontiers in the west have been developed the same way... perhaps with fewer unnecessary clashes with Native Americans and allowing them to maintain their own way of life better than we have? Would technological progress have been the same?
The worlds of What If can be endlessly fascinating... such as:
What if we never went off topic; hopelessly mangling peoples' topics like this? :twisted:
Dare to be different... and make a difference.
To boldly go where no one in their right mind has gone before...

Re: RIP France !

Postby skybird137 » Mon May 07, 2012 11:35 pm

The British are not laughing their socks of about the Euro.

The failure of the Euro is very bad news, economically, even for the UK.

The reason the British never joined the Euro is that British Economists predicted that an event like this would eventually come about, given that economic and financial integration only went so far.
Calling Fifty Shades of Grey a Bondage Story is like calling Titanic an Iceberg Movie...

http://skybird137.deviantart.com

Re: RIP France !

Postby notlongerhere » Mon May 07, 2012 11:51 pm

-
Last edited by notlongerhere on Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:36 am, edited 1 time in total.

Re: RIP France !

Postby skybird137 » Tue May 08, 2012 2:34 am

Is it possible for Chloé to be sent by parcel post?

This saves money and it could be a more interesting way of travel for her.

A carefully chained, cutely constrained, captive Chloé would be a wonderful present for anyone.
Calling Fifty Shades of Grey a Bondage Story is like calling Titanic an Iceberg Movie...

http://skybird137.deviantart.com

Re: RIP France !

Postby mistofoleese » Tue May 08, 2012 5:33 pm

I think we are forgetting the MAIN basis of the thread its NOT politics its a Friend asking for help yeah we all come from different backgrounds and different parts of the world. From this old Solider's stand point we have a young lady who has asked for our help aside from hijacking her thread and turning this into a political debate, WHO is ready to stand up besides me and a few others an pony up the funds to get her out of there?
Regardless of where she will stay if its better than where shes currently at all the better
Id do that for anyone on this board too so whats say we give this thread back to the Lil lady and see what we can do about getting her out of there.

Re: RIP France !

Postby Games_Bond » Wed May 09, 2012 1:30 am

Okay, since this thread has been hijacked (sigh), I must wander into the midst and expertly move FROM a political tangent back TO the actual topic. Watch and learn! :wink:

Chloe, there once existed an alliance between our two nations (France and Scotland), known as the "Auld Alliance" that came about as a mutual understanding that we needed to stand together in times of oppression. That alliance has never been rescinded as far as I am aware. Therefore, I am obliged to offer you shelter in Scotland if you feel you need it. The Socialists are in control here too, but we're not in the Euro-zone and if we ever need to boost the economy, we can always off-load England. If your needs are so great that you would choose to leave sunny France behind to come to SCOTLAND, then you really do need the support of those in the TUG community that can help :wink:

I'm sure we're - ahem - bound - to come up with a mutually beneficial arrangement...

Re: RIP France !

Postby KP Presents » Wed May 09, 2012 2:14 am

Well, Chloe, you know there's always a bunk for you with my gang :D

As for the Euro, given the fact the new President seems directly opposite in political and economic thinking to Chancellor Merkle I agree it looks like there is a rough time ahead, but it was never this that was going to kill the Euro.

What is is the situation in Greece, where the party that was basically forced to take drastic cuts cannot form the new governemnt, and it looks as if there has to be another election. Whatever the underlying causes and beliefs, sooner or later Greece is going to default, and the Eurozone will start to collapse.

Oh - and it wasn't just British economists been proven right that kept us out of the Eurozone. We had our fingers burnt very badly with the ERM in 1992, and nobody wanted that to happen again.
Read stories of ordinary women in distress at http://www.kppresents.com

Re: RIP France !

Postby skybird137 » Wed May 09, 2012 6:51 am

How about Chloé being posted to me for a while, then I can post her to Nats, and then Nats can post her to Games_Bond.

After a little while Games_Bond can post Chloé to me, and it can all begin again.

EDIT: We can stick KPPresents between Games_Bond and me.
Last edited by skybird137 on Wed May 09, 2012 8:05 am, edited 1 time in total.
Calling Fifty Shades of Grey a Bondage Story is like calling Titanic an Iceberg Movie...

http://skybird137.deviantart.com

Re: RIP France !

Postby KP Presents » Wed May 09, 2012 7:06 am

skybird137 wrote:How about Chloé being posted to me for a while, then I can post her to Nats, and then Nats can post her to Games_Bond.

After a little while Games_Bond can post Chloé to me, and it can all begin again.


Err - she might liek to drop in on me as well - I'm in the Greater London area, AND I grew up in Central Scotland...
Read stories of ordinary women in distress at http://www.kppresents.com

Re: RIP France !

Postby mistofoleese » Fri May 11, 2012 10:31 am

Now THAT'S what I'm Talking about gang. if someone has the courage to post up here saying I need help can anyone help me the mere fact we got people popping up saying yeah I got space or what can I do to help is awesome
Great job I know you make Chloe feel good knowing there are people out there who DO give a damn!

Re: RIP France !

Postby bookl0ver » Fri May 11, 2012 10:33 am

Jason Toddman wrote:
skybird137 wrote:
Had they not interfered, France would have remained a Monarchy and we would still have the Colonies.

Are you Brits still sore about that?! :D
France might or might not have remained a monarchy, but I doubt Britain would have kept the colonies without imposing such repression that would have added to resistance on both sides of the pond. You want to blame someone for losing the colonies, blame King George III! If he hadn't been such an unreasonable cuss, things would have been different. It was his policies that changed us from contented colonies to rebellious ones to an independent nation. Even if France had not interfered, we would have won - the war would have been bloodier and longer, but in the end we would have won.
In any case, it certainly isn't Chloe's fault!!!
As for you Chloe; if the 'nice' people don't want you then any time you're desperate enough to be adopted by a single dirty (Tugswise, not sexwise) old man who likes to be tied up, let me know! :twisted:

ahem jason. are us brits still sore about what?
DIRECTIONER FOR LIFE!
NIALL HORAN'S FUTURE WIFE

Also addicted to slash. ^,^

Re: RIP France !

Postby Jason Toddman » Fri May 11, 2012 10:53 am

bookl0ver wrote:
Jason Toddman wrote:
skybird137 wrote:
Had they not interfered, France would have remained a Monarchy and we would still have the Colonies.

Are you Brits still sore about that?! :D

ahem jason. are us brits still sore about what?

Are you Brits still sore about losing the 'colonies' ? I thought that was rather obvious in context. :worried:
Dare to be different... and make a difference.
To boldly go where no one in their right mind has gone before...

Re: RIP France !

Postby bookl0ver » Fri May 11, 2012 1:11 pm

ahh... i may have forgotten to continue reading. soz. And hey i don't know what "losing the 'colonies'" even means. Is it something to o with history?
DIRECTIONER FOR LIFE!
NIALL HORAN'S FUTURE WIFE

Also addicted to slash. ^,^