Oohmynameisblue wrote:So sad...
YouTube extremists though are like saying the US government made it all up...I don't even know.
Jason Toddman wrote:Oohmynameisblue wrote:So sad...
YouTube extremists though are like saying the US government made it all up...I don't even know.
You can't believe everything you hear on Youtube. Anyone with even rudimentary critical thinking skills should be able to tell the factual stuff from the nonsense, even when leaving the religious folks out of it. I have seen videos proclaiming such outlandish things such as the moon landings were all faked, the aliens exist and visit us all the time, that lizard people have taken over the government, that the world is flat and gravity a hoax... to say nothing of all the Bigfoot and living Elvis sightings. Some even diss the very science and technology that enables them to post their nonsense online in the first place. It can be hard to pick out the nonsense when you are young (Hell, I believe in Bigfoot and aliens in UFOS as a kid myself; I also believed in angels, demons, and the Word of the Bible, which to me now is just as fantastic). But figuring out what is real and what is a hoax early on will make a big difference in your life; especially if you haven't done so before you begin college. believe me, i should know. I would probably have a much different life and likely a much better life right now had a developed adequate critical thinking skills earlier than i did.
Oohmynameisblue wrote:Its not so much I believe what they're saying, it's that I DON'T believe that they would be so stupid as to post something like that, but they do anyway.
Oohmynameisblue wrote:Jason Toddman wrote:Oohmynameisblue wrote:So sad...
YouTube extremists though are like saying the US government made it all up...I don't even know.
You can't believe everything you hear on Youtube. Anyone with even rudimentary critical thinking skills should be able to tell the factual stuff from the nonsense, even when leaving the religious folks out of it. I have seen videos proclaiming such outlandish things such as the moon landings were all faked, the aliens exist and visit us all the time, that lizard people have taken over the government, that the world is flat and gravity a hoax... to say nothing of all the Bigfoot and living Elvis sightings. Some even diss the very science and technology that enables them to post their nonsense online in the first place. It can be hard to pick out the nonsense when you are young (Hell, I believe in Bigfoot and aliens in UFOS as a kid myself; I also believed in angels, demons, and the Word of the Bible, which to me now is just as fantastic). But figuring out what is real and what is a hoax early on will make a big difference in your life; especially if you haven't done so before you begin college. believe me, i should know. I would probably have a much different life and likely a much better life right now had a developed adequate critical thinking skills earlier than i did.
Its not so much I believe what they're saying, it's that I DON'T believe that they would be so stupid as to post something like that, but they do anyway.
drawscore wrote:Although I do not live in New York, I have friends that do. It was real, and our biggest mistake, was not taking out the radical imams that infected the 19 hijackers with their hate, and leveling the mosques from which they preached their hate.
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drawscore wrote:Although I do not live in New York, I have friends that do. It was real, and our biggest mistake, was not taking out the radical imams that infected the 19 hijackers with their hate, and leveling the mosques from which they preached their hate.
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Lake Lover wrote:Sure some innocents would have been exterminated-- tough.
Lake Lover wrote:drawscore wrote:Although I do not live in New York, I have friends that do. It was real, and our biggest mistake, was not taking out the radical imams that infected the 19 hijackers with their hate, and leveling the mosques from which they preached their hate.
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That's the way I feel too. Kill the bastards. We should have searched them out and pulverized the city or towns they operated from and which supported their attack, as soon as we were reasonably sure they had anything to do with it or knew about the plans as they were developed and carried out. Sure some innocents would have been exterminated-- tough.
Jason Toddman wrote:drawscore wrote:Although I do not live in New York, I have friends that do. It was real, and our biggest mistake, was not taking out the radical imams that infected the 19 hijackers with their hate, and leveling the mosques from which they preached their hate.
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Problem is, too much thinking like that leads to despicable actions like this: apparent arson at a mosque in Orlando, Florida.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fire-breaks- ... 28151.html
SolidSnickerdoodle wrote:Lake Lover wrote:drawscore wrote:Although I do not live in New York, I have friends that do. It was real, and our biggest mistake, was not taking out the radical imams that infected the 19 hijackers with their hate, and leveling the mosques from which they preached their hate.
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That's the way I feel too. Kill the bastards. We should have searched them out and pulverized the city or towns they operated from and which supported their attack, as soon as we were reasonably sure they had anything to do with it or knew about the plans as they were developed and carried out. Sure some innocents would have been exterminated-- tough.
Well this took quite a turn. First and foremost, Drawscore, "Imams" are not a religious organization, or even a population for that matter. So, if you're going to advocate for the targeting of a denomination then please give enough thought to typing their name correctly.
In regards to Lake Lover...
SolidSnickerdoodle wrote:Oohmynameisblue wrote:Jason Toddman wrote:Oohmynameisblue wrote:So sad...
YouTube extremists though are like saying the US government made it all up...I don't even know.
You can't believe everything you hear on Youtube. Anyone with even rudimentary critical thinking skills should be able to tell the factual stuff from the nonsense, even when leaving the religious folks out of it. I have seen videos proclaiming such outlandish things such as the moon landings were all faked, the aliens exist and visit us all the time, that lizard people have taken over the government, that the world is flat and gravity a hoax... to say nothing of all the Bigfoot and living Elvis sightings. Some even diss the very science and technology that enables them to post their nonsense online in the first place. It can be hard to pick out the nonsense when you are young (Hell, I believe in Bigfoot and aliens in UFOS as a kid myself; I also believed in angels, demons, and the Word of the Bible, which to me now is just as fantastic). But figuring out what is real and what is a hoax early on will make a big difference in your life; especially if you haven't done so before you begin college. believe me, i should know. I would probably have a much different life and likely a much better life right now had a developed adequate critical thinking skills earlier than i did.
Its not so much I believe what they're saying, it's that I DON'T believe that they would be so stupid as to post something like that, but they do anyway.
While I don't buy into the 9/11 conspiracy theories myself, I do give the people who believe them a little more credit than, say, flat-Earthers.
In the case of flat Earth conspiracy theorists, along with hollow Earth theorists and geocentrism theorists, the group takes on a claim so fundamental and well supported that it flies in the face of everything we know. These groups are often small in number with only a minuscule base actually believing what they preach. They are not interested in the scientific data that has been accumulated over the years, and any attempt by you to shed light on evidence to the contrary is dismissed as you "drinking the government Kool-Aid". Also, it is worth noting that behind every conspiracy theory there is supposedly some underlying motive, some reason to have everyone belief this fabrication. Realistically speaking, I don't see any sort of end game for every world government and scientist group coming together to fake our own model of the universe. I mean, honestly, what's the benefit?
However, I would argue that a 9/11 conspiracy theory is more realistic by comparison. Keep in mind that we're talking about governments here, specifically the US government, and governments, as we know, have agendas. And some of those agendas can by shady.
Like I said, I don't buy into the 9/11 conspiracy theories, but my reasoning behind disagreeing with them is certainly not based in moral principle. It's not because I can't imagine the US government targeting its own citizens because I can. It's not because I believe that the US government is pure in intention and execution because it's not. And it's certainly not because I believe our government puts its people ahead of political influence and wealth. Because it doesn't. (I'm using the word government collectively here. I understand that governments are made up of individual people. I just believe that many of them act in their own self-interest.)
The reason I don't believe the theories is because there's not enough incriminating evidence against the US government to suggest anything other than a terrorist attack. I'm sorry, but a video where you zoom in on a pixelated plane and say "Oh. Look. Those aren't normal plane windows. That's not a commercial plane." is not going to be enough to convince me. But aside from the lack of evidence to support the claims, I genuinely wouldn't put a stunt like this beyond the US government. And that sucks. It's a sad moment when millions of American citizens, in the wake of scandals, political pandering, fraud, and cover-ups, are so desensitized to corruption that we almost don't expect anything less.
drawscore wrote:No, SSD. An imam is an Islamic religious leader. Synonyms would be pastor, priest, reverend, minister, and chaplain. The word was correctly spelled and used. Please check your facts and definitions before putting fingers to keyboard.
Don't be the person who proves the adage "There are those that remain silent, and are thought to be fools. There are others that open their mouths (or put their fingers to their keyboards) and remove all doubt."
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Oohmynameisblue wrote:WHY DO I EVEN POST IN JUMP IN THE FIRE GAAAAAAAAAH
Oohmynameisblue wrote:But why would the USA hire Al-Qaeda to blow up their own towers?