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Post by haloguy » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:19 pm

it is just as fine as shaking hands with a guy, as long as it dosent get out of hand

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Post by snobound » Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:23 pm

Oh, my god.... just take a look at any one of my stories!
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### Re: M/M tie up

Post by kidnapper » Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:25 pm

as far as i concern; the desire for the opposite gender is a common and regular willing which is related to our regular nature! for the same gender i think it is even more regular, it is related to the fact of game, tug, so that's not about a strange manner!
u like being tied by guys, me for example don't care-as far as she/he is a friend!- some girls like the girls, some like get tied by younger, some like older. let say, it's just kind of tact ,ur taste!!!

### Re: M/M tie up

Post by kidnapper » Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:26 pm

> snobound wrote:Oh, my god.... just take a look at any one of my stories!

and then concentrate on which part!?

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Post by Chase Ricks » Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:29 pm

Even my stories are either m/m, f/f, or both.
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Post by Discovery00 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:49 pm

Don't sweat it. I am a straight guy, not attracted to men in any way, but I do want a guy to tie me up because I think he'd do a better job. I have yet to have it happen, but it's something I really want to do (or have done, I should say).

### Re: M/M tie up

Post by Jason Toddman » Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:11 am

Playing Tie Up Games with guys is no different than playing any other game (baseball, golf, monopoly) with guys. It's not like TUGs have to involve any more physical contact than football does. Is a straight football player tackling another in a game being gay? Ask THEM that and see how they respond!
Granted, my own TUGs experiences in adolescence often involved more intimate stuff, but that's just the way we were. Most Tugs don't involve any sexual elements at all. Obviously, intimate stuff doesn't have to involve TUGs, either. They're simply two great (but completely separate) things that (can) go great together (or not; depending on your own choice).
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### Re: M/M tie up

Post by Jason Toddman » Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:25 am

> Terry wrote:

> > Jason Toddman wrote:Most Tugs don't involve any sexual elements at all

> Tell that to Google.

Okay, most REAL Tugs (IWO those never recorded for posterity) don't involve any sexual elements at all. My stories definitely DO NOT represent the norm! Even in those, I only focused on the highlights. Most of my own teenaged Tugs involved no sexual elements either, actually; I simply concentrated on the ones I considered to be the most interesting. For every Tug I wrote about so far I had at least a dozen others in the same general time period that were simple tie ups (sometimes with sit-ons and/or other light torture, and sometimes not) with relatively little variation; fun to experience but dull to read about after the first few.
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### Re: M/M tie up

Post by Jason Toddman » Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:47 pm

> Terry wrote:All of my fictional fantasies and my own fantasies are of M/M bondage.

Well, the vast majority of mine are too; in my case though, gender (or even race) had nothing to do with whether sexual elements were involved or not. I'm not gay, simply bi; I'm just as happy either way if it's what the other person wants (I always let the other person decide; that's part of the fun for me in being the captive). Tugs were always by far the more important thing for me anyway; sex I can take or leave (now that the novelty has long since worn off) but TUGs I will crave forever...
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### Re: M/M tie up

Post by SamanthaBoundx » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:55 am

I feel Im outta place here because Im not a guy but I have an answer anyway =)
And I think that that its totally normal! Like JT said, some TUGs in real life dont involve anything sexual - I mean, look at the amount of stories on here about being tied up by brothers/sisters/cousins (if they were all based on sexual drives then I would start to get very, very worried about some of the people I talk to on here =P). Most people also say that there reasons for being tied up are because they enjoy the helplessness etc, not primarily for sexual reasons (though Im sure for a lot of people its an added bonus!). If theres no sexual drive, then it has nothing to do with sexuality, right?
I also think that the reason why significantly more people enjoy being tied by males than by females is (to put it in a wonderfully sexist way) because women generally just aren't as strong as men. The majority of references to TUGs in popular cultures usually depict a female victim and even where there is a male victim, its pretty standard that the villain is male. Im taking this from my comparison of being tied by girls and guys - and in my experience, guys are much better at it xD

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Post by SamanthaBoundx » Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:01 am

> Terry wrote:I just also find M/M more interesting and has better scenarios than F/M bondage.

In what way??? Surely the same scenarios could be applied to any kind of TUG whether its M/M, F/M or F/F? Unless you would be including something sexual where there clearly would be a difference - but in that case, that wouldnt be about the TUG, but about the sexuality of the person, no??
(Just to specify here, because Im just great at accidentally offending people - I am not making assessments about anyones sexuality or sexuality in general etc etc. Im just quite interested to find out)

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Post by Jason Toddman » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:04 am

> SamanthaBoundx wrote: Just to specify here, because Im just great at accidentally offending people - )

Nice to know I'm not the only one! I have that problem big time! The fact that I post much too much doesn't help!!
IMHO I think you were clear enough so that there were probably no misunderstandings.
At the same time, I agree with what Terry said. I don't think it's just a sexual thing (at least with me), but I can't really put it into words either. At least as a child, I just preferred being tied by other boys to females - even when I was too young to know what sex was. Same as a teenager. As an adult though, I'm more 50-50 and at times even favor being tied by women.
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### Re: M/M tie up

Post by jb99 » Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:29 pm

> sw633 wrote:I never thought i'd get so many replies. Thank you to all, this has been a great help

Anything you could share with the forum by way of a story?
I've written a couple of m/f and m/m stories, the f/m doesn't really appeal to me, but that's probably because I think (or perceive) that a better tie up is done by males, although I am willing to conceive that females are probably more devious and imaginative in the way they would tie up a bloke.
I've also written on another site which is definitely m/m and involves other materials......

### Re: M/M tie up

Post by Jason Toddman » Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:39 pm

[quote="jb99"I've also written on another site which is definitely m/m and involves other materials...... [/quote]
Can you supply a link to that site for those of us who are interested?
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### Re: M/M tie up

Post by jb99 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:58 pm

> Jason Toddman wrote:[quote="jb99"I've also written on another site which is definitely m/m and involves other materials......

Can you supply a link to that site for those of us who are interested?[/quote]
If you ask nicely in a Pm, then no problem....

### Re: M/M tie up

Post by snobound » Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:51 pm

> jb99 wrote:

> > Jason Toddman wrote:[quote="jb99"I've also written on another site which is definitely m/m and involves other materials......

> Can you supply a link to that site for those of us who are interested?

If you ask nicely in a Pm, then no problem....[/quote]
I'll second that request.
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### Re: M/M tie up

Post by PetSilkenvixen » Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:21 am

My primary focus on being tied up and gagged is to be a female. To play the role of a captured woman, to feel what she feels when the hand clamps over her mouth and she hears the threats if she tries to get away, to feel the ropes bite into her wrists and ankles, her attempts to screams as her breasts are fondled and played with, her vain struggles for her freedom and escape in an empty burglarized house until her husband comes home to find her like that.....
Lately though, I have to admit---and I blame TUGS---I have indeed had the urge to be tied up and gagged by another male as my male self.
I, too, am straight, and I don't know why it is....maybe it's a lack of CD-friendly playmates, I don't know.....but if another male wanted to tie me up and gag me as me, I'd let him.
I even RP'd a fantasy about it that I wrote up a couple of months ago and posted here under the Intimate TUGS category, a self-bondage RP which began downstairs with my handkerchief stuffed in my mouth and a male intruder forcing me upstairs with my hands raised, my ending up stripped, bound with tape, my gag replaced with one of my dirty socks and tape wound around my head and over my mouth, and left to struggle until I eventually climaxed. Ordinarily males in bondage do nothing for me, and normally myself as a male DiD wouldn't appeal to me....lately though, it has. Odd, isn't it?
Christyne

### Re: M/M tie up

Post by Jason Toddman » Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:56 am

Not so odd, PSR. Maybe you're just now discovering a liking for something you simply never seriously thought about before or subconsciously rejected without serious consideation as being 'unmanly' or socially unacceptable or something. You may have wanted something like this all along but simply couldn't admit it even to yourself. You wouldn't be the first adult this has happened to.
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### Re: M/M tie up

Post by PetSilkenvixen » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:42 am

You may be right, Jason. I do also remember a time some years back, when my playmate and I were more active in our games. Two different times we did a husband/wife bondage scenario with me as the husband, once tying each other up and the other after I'd hogtied her I bound and gagged myself and hopped over beside her and put myself into a matching hogtie. We both liked that.
One other time, for whatever reason, I suggested we do a back-to-back tie-up in the nude. The only thing with that was my playmate insisted on at least wearing black pumps, his little fetish I guess. We gagged and bound each other and struggled back to back, 2 nude guys.
Christyne

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Post by Jason Toddman » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:47 am

It's good that you still have a healthy and active TUG-life. I wish *I* did!
Anyway, you should post more stories about yours; they sound interesting and we don't get hat many stories ofadule male TUGs here.
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### Re: M/M tie up

Post by PetSilkenvixen » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:04 pm

> Jason Toddman wrote:It's good that you still have a healthy and active TUG-life. I wish *I* did!
> Anyway, you should post more stories about yours; they sound interesting and we don't get hat many stories ofadule male TUGs here.

Thank you, Jason! I wish my TUG life were still as active! I tie myself up more than anything these days, snatching what precious privacy I can when it comes along, even if it's only a gag and my ankles tied crossed with a bathrobe sash as I fantasize and pleasure myself in the bathroom....romantic, huh
I'd love to post more stories! I haven't have too many male experiences, and none of them have been sexual (except for one or two times of experimentation a long time ago ... ) ... Where would you like me to begin?
Christyne

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Post by cellofello » Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:40 pm

> SamanthaBoundx wrote:I also think that the reason why significantly more people enjoy being tied by males than by females is (to put it in a wonderfully sexist way) because women generally just aren't as strong as men. The majority of references to TUGs in popular cultures usually depict a female victim and even where there is a male victim, its pretty standard that the villain is male. Im taking this from my comparison of being tied by girls and guys - and in my experience, guys are much better at it xD

Tying is about skill, not strength. Even the tiniest woman who knows what she's doing can tie someone quite effectively. There may be a couple of things at work here. I think quite a few women are a bit hesitant about tying someone tightly for fear of hurting them. On more than one occasion, I've had to tell a woman, "Please tie me like you mean it!" They did not understand that "too tight" was quite a bit tighter than they thought. Men's social conditioning is more supportive of "playing rough." I also wonder if a higher proportion of men get some rope skills from things like Boy Scouts - I remember learning the concept of lashing and cinching there.
But that's from the physical perspective. From the psychological perspective, I agree that it feels more natural to submit to someone who is physically larger and stronger. I'm a switch tending more towards the submissive side. But I feel my dominant side coming out more with a woman who is smaller than I am, while feeling more naturally submissive with taller and/or heavier women. (I'm only 5'7", so it is possible for me to find taller women.)
Sexually, I'm only interested in females. But I enjoy being bound for its own sake, so I have no problem with being tied by a man who knows how to make me inescapably helpless.

### Re: M/M tie up

Post by BoundTight1 » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:44 pm

> Terry wrote:

> > Jason Toddman wrote:Most Tugs don't involve any sexual elements at all

> Tell that to Google.

I've noticed that about google.... Ohhh Well...
I'm going to put in my 2 cents worth.... I've been tied but both and am glad to say Nothing inapropriate ever happend.... Well unless we planned to before hand or I was with the Person Bf/Gf or Bf/Bf....

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Post by BondageChris » Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:06 pm

Awwhhh a hot man...Faint

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Post by BoundTight1 » Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:41 pm

> BondageChris wrote:Awwhhh a hot man...Faint

Wake up before I decide to use my new toy on you (Shock Box)....

### Re: M/M tie up

Post by Mason Twins » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:00 am

> Discovery00 wrote:Don't sweat it. I am a straight guy, not attracted to men in any way, but I do want a guy to tie me up because I think he'd do a better job. I have yet to have it happen, but it's something I really want to do (or have done, I should say).

Kids would do an even better job then men... HAHAHA

### Re: M/M tie up

Post by Jason Toddman » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:27 am

Ummm... as far as other kids are concerned anyway, yes I agree based on my own (long ago) experiences as a kid.
Kids and adults together though... especially in these paranoid days... not such a good idea at all!
Why? Because, unfortunately, most other people can't distinguish the difference between harmless TUGs and kinky sex! And unfortunately experiences like those I used to have help blur the distinction.
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