Internet Safe

Postby Jay Feely » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:13 pm

How safe is the internet?
There are adults posing as kids on the internet to lure kids to them- pedophiles, murderers, etc...
Even kids who lure kids.
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Re: Internet Safe

Postby Thatworm » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:41 pm

The internet has never been safe ever since it was invented

Re: Internet Safe

Postby 31acujoker » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:44 pm

Somehow I don't think you're telling us anything we didn't already know :P
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Re: Internet Safe

Postby Thatworm » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:47 pm

Had to say something, it's the truth, why are we even talking about this anyways, all you can do is let it be

Re: Internet Safe

Postby AlexUSA » Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:02 pm

You have enough perverts out there asking children to do bondage and tickle challenges under the guise of games... I watch a lot of challenge videos for the day I am not living with my mom and can try licorice and apple flavored jelly beans simultaneously :P
But when I see it, I try to warn the kids for their own safety.
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Re: Internet Safe

Postby Jason Toddman » Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:37 pm

Jay Feely wrote:How safe is the internet?
There are adults posing as kids on the internet to lure kids to them- pedophiles, murderers, etc...
Even kids who lure kids.

Sounds to me you answered your own question. It's not safe at all; at least not for kids who haven't been taught what to avoid. It's up to their parents though to teach them what they need to know; there's not much you or i can do about it otherwise except watch out for obvious offenders... which is part of what I, xtc, and our other fellow mods are doing here.
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Re: Internet Safe

Postby drawscore » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:06 pm

The internet can be downright dangerous, so for the benefit of any kids we DO have, I highly recommend that you not use it as a "dating service." Don't "hook up" with people you "meet" on line. It's far too easy to hide behind a cloak of anonymity, and that "friend" who wants to get together with you, could very easily be "Jack the Ripper," or "Chester, the molester." It's best to keep your relationships in cyberspace. You are asking for trouble if you move it into a "face to face" relationship.

And for the adults trying to lure kids, I do hope you get caught before you harm, or do any damage to a child, and that you get thrown in a hole so deep, sunlight has to be pumped in.

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Re: Internet Safe

Postby Driverman » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:13 am

Just to throw this out there... the internet itself is not dangerous, the people who abuse it for the above mentioned reasons are dangerous. The internet is their tool, and like any tool, in the wrong hands, it can be a weapon.

A hammer is not dangerous if used cautiously and correctly, until it is wielded by someone with bad intentions (although I suppose you can bash a thumb on accident).

Re: Internet Safe

Postby That-animeguy » Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:06 am

Driverman wrote:Just to throw this out there... the internet itself is not dangerous, the people who abuse it for the above mentioned reasons are dangerous. The internet is their tool, and like any tool, in the wrong hands, it can be a weapon.

A hammer is not dangerous if used cautiously and correctly, until it is wielded by someone with bad intentions (although I suppose you can bash a thumb on accident).


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Re: Internet Safe

Postby Jason Toddman » Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:24 am

More technically correct but doesn't really change the thrust of what the rest of us were saying, since it should be pretty obvious that is what we meant. Even if we were talking about guns, it would essentially boil down to the same thing.
Except, unlike the internet, guns would have no use or purpose in a world where everyone was a decent and rational person.
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Re: Internet Safe

Postby Driverman » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:38 pm

I wasn't trying to discredit anything you were saying before Jason, just clarifying it a little bit more. Putting the blame on the perpetrators rather than just a blanket "the internet is a bad thing" feel. I agree with everything you have all said to this point 100%.

And I don't want to get into a whole thing on guns, which is why I used a hammer for my example. Because the only purpose a gun serves is to shoot something, where the internet serves informational purposes and many others as well. So I was purposely trying to avoid that comparison. But again, I was not discrediting any of you, just agreeing and adding a wrinkle!

Re: Internet Safe

Postby Jason Toddman » Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:48 pm

Driverman wrote:I wasn't trying to discredit anything you were saying before Jason, just clarifying it a little bit more. Putting the blame on the perpetrators rather than just a blanket "the internet is a bad thing" feel. I agree with everything you have all said to this point 100%.

And I don't want to get into a whole thing on guns, which is why I used a hammer for my example. Because the only purpose a gun serves is to shoot something, where the internet serves informational purposes and many others as well. So I was purposely trying to avoid that comparison. But again, I was not discrediting any of you, just agreeing and adding a wrinkle!

No worries. I was trying to make the same point.
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Re: Internet Safe

Postby RiaTheGaggedGirl » Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:45 pm

AlexUSA wrote:You have enough perverts out there asking children to do bondage and tickle challenges under the guise of games... I watch a lot of challenge videos for the day I am not living with my mom and can try licorice and apple flavored jelly beans simultaneously :P
But when I see it, I try to warn the kids for their own safety.

Yeah, isn't one of the more common ones duct tape challenges. I don't watch them or search it up its just I've seen popular youtubers have been requested by some in the comments to do it.
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Re: Internet Safe

Postby Domination » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:27 pm

If you're careful, you'll always be safe.

But if you're stupid or not taught properly, you're trapped.
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Re: Internet Safe

Postby Chris12 » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:49 pm

When using the internet you must just accept that no one can be trusted 100 %. After all you can't see a face, don't hear a voice and don't see the emotion on ones face when they claim the things they do. You can give people the benefit of the doubt, you'd probably should but when it comes to making solid commitments like meeting people or other deals you must be very certain who you are dealing with. If you don't then I'd call that pretty irresponsible, fatally irresponsible perhaps.

Re: Internet Safe

Postby SolidSnickerdoodle » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:22 pm

As far as internet safety goes, physical safety is at the bottom of my list of concerns. So long as I don't arrange a private meetup with anyone over the internet, give out my real name, or do anything else that could lead to real world consequences I'm pretty much in the clear. I'm more concerned about cyber security (I can barely use that term without sounding like a 90's educational video...) and personal privacy.

As far as security, I feel that common sense goes a long way. I have MalwareBytes installed and will routinely perform full system scans for potential threats. I'm also not going to click on a moving box that says I'm the 999,999th visitor and I've won a free iPad. Don't download from suspicious sources or open ambiguous email attachments from people you don't know. That sort of thing. And for the love of all that is holy, don't send a Nigerian prince your money...

Privacy is really my number one concern. Not because I have anything consequential to hide (except for my interest in bondage), but because I find it deeply concerning how much data mining companies are doing nowadays. A few years ago when RadioShack was first filing for bankruptcy they made a last ditch effort to sustain by selling their customer's personal data off to the highest bidders. This was data that they had collected over years of service. Names, addresses, phone numbers, billing information. And all it took was one written clause in the user agreement that gave them the right to do so.

That's a more obvious example in which data and information is directly volunteered, but I didn't know until recently how much data mining Microsoft does. It wasn't until I saw a news story on Reddit a few months ago (detailing that France was suing Microsoft for its excessive data collecting of Windows 10 users) that I actually went in and checked my privacy settings. The results are quite eye-opening and I would advise everyone that has Windows 10 to go to their privacy settings, read every tab and subsection, and uncheck the box if they're not okay with it (because they all come pre-checked).

This topic sort of took a turn, but this is what I truly worry about when I'm online. Not that a stranger is going to catfish and lure me to their house. Not that I'm going to get scammed. But that everything everyone could ever know about me (including my secrets) is stored away on some server for an unspecified amount of time.
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Re: Internet Safe

Postby RiaTheGaggedGirl » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:25 am

SolidSnickerdoodle wrote:As far as internet safety goes, physical safety is at the bottom of my list of concerns. So long as I don't arrange a private meetup with anyone over the internet, give out my real name, or do anything else that could lead to real world consequences I'm pretty much in the clear. I'm more concerned about cyber security (I can barely use that term without sounding like a 90's educational video...) and personal privacy.

As far as security, I feel that common sense goes a long way. I have MalwareBytes installed and will routinely perform full system scans for potential threats. I'm also not going to click on a moving box that says I'm the 999,999th visitor and I've won a free iPad. Don't download from suspicious sources or open ambiguous email attachments from people you don't know. That sort of thing. And for the love of all that is holy, don't send a Nigerian prince your money...

Privacy is really my number one concern. Not because I have anything consequential to hide (except for my interest in bondage), but because I find it deeply concerning how much data mining companies are doing nowadays. A few years ago when RadioShack was first filing for bankruptcy they made a last ditch effort to sustain by selling their customer's personal data off to the highest bidders. This was data that they had collected over years of service. Names, addresses, phone numbers, billing information. And all it took was one written clause in the user agreement that gave them the right to do so.

That's a more obvious example in which data and information is directly volunteered, but I didn't know until recently how much data mining Microsoft does. It wasn't until I saw a news story on Reddit a few months ago (detailing that France was suing Microsoft for its excessive data collecting of Windows 10 users) that I actually went in and checked my privacy settings. The results are quite eye-opening and I would advise everyone that has Windows 10 to go to their privacy settings, read every tab and subsection, and uncheck the box if they're not okay with it (because they all come pre-checked).

This topic sort of took a turn, but this is what I truly worry about when I'm online. Not that a stranger is going to catfish and lure me to their house. Not that I'm going to get scammed. But that everything everyone could ever know about me (including my secrets) is stored away on some server for an unspecified amount of time.

Thats a good point :mouthopen:
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Re: Internet Safe

Postby gagfan867 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:08 pm

I mean I feel the internet is fairly safe if you use a reasonable amount of caution which realistically describes a lot of life.

Re: Internet Safe

Postby Kidnapable82 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:47 pm

It's happened to me. I used to *save* my debit/credit card information on Chrome. Yes, I know you all are looking at me in disgust (Is he crazy?) Well, I am the only one using this computer, and you still have to put in your three digit pin on the back of the card for security purposes. I have software installed for protection, so I figured it was all OK. Nope. I knew how much was in my account (always check) and one morning it was almost $200 short. I called my bank to see what they could do. I looked at the online description, and it was some weird company I never even heard of. I filed a report, and thankfully got that money returned, and they cancelled my card and gave me a new one. I NEVER, EVER kept my information on my computer anymore. No matter how strong your firewall is, or other software, use your brain. I certainly did not.

Going a LITTLE off subject, but another thing I *HATE* are the new chips in your debit and credit cards. I was at a store that I've never been to before, and you don't swipe, you have to slide the card with chip into the machine. It NEVER asked for my pin. But people claim that this system is designed to protect you from fraud, theft, etc, etc. I just don't see it.

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Re: Internet Safe

Postby Jay Feely » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:02 pm

I hate the chip cards too, if stolen, anyone can slide that into a slot and make purchases without your knowledge.
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Re: Internet Safe

Postby Kidnapable82 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:04 pm

Jay Feely wrote:I hate the chip cards too, if stolen, anyone can slide that into a slot and make purchases without your knowledge.


I don't really understand the point. But, then again, anyone can steal your card, and they hit credit WITHOUT a pin. Cashier clerks are *suppose* to check for ID if you go that route, but I've done it myself NUMEROUS times and only one time was asked for ID.

So, I guess either way, you are not safe.

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Re: Internet Safe

Postby da2443 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:03 pm

The internet was never designed to be safe, think about it back in the days of the ARPANET which was DARPA's pet project (which leads a lot of Americans to claim they invented the internet). You have computers connecting to other computers, ports on firewalls MUST be open to allow them to make an inward connection. If the TUG servers closed port 80 on their firewall yes it would be more secure in the sense that nobody could connect to the webserver.

I don't know why the average home user would worry about firewalls on their router too much, pretty much every average users router wont allow inbound connections, but allow ALL outbound, and when have you audited the services making outbound connections. Meaning downloading those kinky pics through email attachments can still get in and once in connect to god knows where and start sending logs of keystrokes.

Viruses and malware are slightly less of a concern for me (using arch linux) but its downright stupid to assume just because of whatever OS you choose to use your magically secure. Internet security's done in layers. If your curious check out the OSI model of networking.

The internets safe enough. Its the users that are the problem.

Re: Internet Safe

Postby MisterTheEdge » Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:40 pm

I even think this website isn't too safe.
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Re: Internet Safe

Postby Jason Toddman » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:43 pm

MisterTheEdge wrote:I even think this website isn't too safe.

We mods and admins do try to keep it as safe as humanly possible, however. Whenever you see anything suspicious, please report it - especially to either xtc or me.
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Re: Internet Safe

Postby MisterTheEdge » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:55 pm

Jason Toddman wrote:
MisterTheEdge wrote:I even think this website isn't too safe.

We mods and admins do try to keep it as safe as humanly possible, however. Whenever you see anything suspicious, please report it - especially to either xtc or me.


Oh I'm fine, but even the subject matter of the forum, a creeper or two might show up, but if I feel anything is questionable, I will let you know.
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Re: Internet Safe

Postby Jason Toddman » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:38 pm

Creepers have come and creepers have gone, but when they start creeping people out around here we deal with them swiftly believe me. This is and has always been meant to be a family/kid-friendly site and we fully intend to keep it that way to the best of our ability.
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