## fifty shades of grey

Post by trak82 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:09 pm

does anyone read this book??

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Post by Fesselfan » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:16 pm

I am sure a lot of people do- else it wouldnt sell that good.
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Post by skybird137 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:13 am

I think that there was another thread about this book already. Reviews were not favourable in general.
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Post by TUfriend » Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:34 pm

I've heard it called an insult to the bondage community and not practical. Something to do with contracts. I haven't read it though, so I don't know.
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Post by Meh » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:44 pm

I have not, but a bunch of the women I work with have... Makes for interesting conversations with them

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Post by MissTieMeUp » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:19 pm

> roped17 wrote:I have not, but a bunch of the women I work with have... Makes for interesting conversations with them

they were all boring sorry (I expected more with all the hype)...but then I like Cherise sinclair and a few other true bondage writers. I won't spoil for those that haven't read but they sure didn't live up to the hype and if they do make a movie and its anything under NC17 you might as well watch a regular romance. sorry not a fan at all. but that's just me.
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Post by Fesselfan » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:44 pm

Just my opinion, of course...but in my eyes, its a blind person writing about colors (maybe thats why she sees so many shades of grey...).
It started as a fanfic for Twilight- and when you read it, its easy to imagine Bella&Edward as the main actors.
I would place it in the category of "housewife porn"- literature for very "normal" women who want to feel kinky and shady while reading something they would never dare to life.
Plus, it's (in my eyes, again) poorly written.
The hype about it, in my eyes, is the only reason why it sells. Its just some average "someone dreams of being bad" fiction.
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Post by cloud » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:47 am

Well, I have not read it (and I probably wont...) but from what I have herd about it, it has been good for people who don't normally get a chance to express their 'little feelings in the back of their mind' with other people and not let them think it is strange... and also from what I have read it has got a lot of people into trying bondage for the first time, but the issue is, if the book is not good then what says that their experience will be good of it?
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Post by MissTieMeUp » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:49 pm

What I find lame is there have always been so many other good bondage books from beginners to the very advanced. I think its b/c this was a twilight fanfic that it has gotten the attention is has. I mean I don't see too many other BDSM(esque) novels being talked about being made into a movie and I can think of a lot of other better BDSM books I'd like to see as movies...course they'd be NC-17 for sure haha but that's what makes them good. I guess these were just disapointing b/c of the hype. I mean overall its just a sappy romance novel and I don't enjoy the typrical romance books at all.
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Post by Fesselfan » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:33 pm

Another gripe I have with the book is that it uses the common stereotypics.
Of course, the submissive woman, a virgin (!), has no self esteem and doesnt want all this things...but of course, the dom (who has a weirdo history himself) doesnt care about that and forces her. Which, of course, makes her like him.
From over 10 years in the real bdsm community, this is really *&%$!
-We are not sick people, who practice their perversions to overcome their illness
-Most of us never suffered from abuse during the childhood. (not more than among "normal" people)
-We only do things in consent. If someone says "no", its "no" (until agreed upon differently beforehand)
-We are not rapists, nor kidnappers
In fact, the book flies direclty in the front of many bdsm people who spent a lot of time to dispel the common misperceptions people have about their kink.
Cheers
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Those who understand binary numeral system, and those who don't.

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Post by KP Presents » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:38 am

You metnioned the book - the book I do not like to name.
I have heard excerpts, and I am glad the writer has done so well out of it, but like others I find it amazing that she has had the success when so many other, frankly better writers struggle to be recognised.
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Post by MissTieMeUp » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:59 am

> Fesselfan wrote:Another gripe I have with the book is that it uses the common stereotypics.
> Of course, the submissive woman, a virgin (!), has no self esteem and doesnt want all this things...but of course, the dom (who has a weirdo history himself) doesnt care about that and forces her. Which, of course, makes her like him.
> From over 10 years in the real bdsm community, this is really *&%$!
> -We are not sick people, who practice their perversions to overcome their illness
> -Most of us never suffered from abuse during the childhood. (not more than among "normal" people)
> -We only do things in consent. If someone says "no", its "no" (until agreed upon differently beforehand)
> -We are not rapists, nor kidnappers
> In fact, the book flies direclty in the front of many bdsm people who spent a lot of time to dispel the common misperceptions people have about their kink.
> Cheers
> FF

Well said...those were my gripes and I was like...oh yeah this gives the BDSM lifestyle a good name? huh? in what way? it was cohersion and a sub's true power is giving their control over 'willingly' to their dom...so yeah it was overall lame and am surprised it hasn't raised more eyebrows than it has praise. I think it was any other fandom than twilight that it came from then it wouldn't have been as successful but that's just me. I am not a twilight fan so again didn't and still don't see the hype.
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Post by sarobah » Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:11 pm

In defence of Fifty Shades, one might quote this famous passage from Aldous Huxley (Point Counter Point):
“A bad book is as much of a labour to write as a good one; it comes as sincerely from the author’s soul.”
On the other hand, few people are aware of the next three sentences:
“But the bad author’s soul being, artistically at any rate, of inferior quality, its sincerities will be, if not always intrinsically uninteresting, at any rate uninterestingly expressed, and the labour expended on the expression will be wasted. Nature is monstrously unjust. There is no substitute for talent.”
The impact of Fifty Shades shouldn’t be underestimated. A majority of the women I know – intelligent, educated and sophisticated – have read or are intending to read it. Not surprisingly, their husbands/boyfriends are very supportive :o)
While I appreciate that it has brought BDSM at least partially into the mainstream, it’s a pity that it’s the wrong book to do so.
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Post by Rogeroo » Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:14 pm

Why we like what we do and why they like what they do is still a mystery.
All the stereotypes are true, but none apply, that's why there are at least 50 way to leave your lover.
I never knew why I like bondage at age 7, but I can remember I like being tied and tying someone up.
I wondered why neither I, nor anyone I knew, could do it very well.
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