Games_Bond wrote:As for Labour, I'm sure they will mourn too. I mean, the Scottish Labour Party must love her because she made the Conservative party totally unelectable in Scotland.
xtc wrote:Oh, by the way, anyone who can find Chumbawamba on the net might enjoy the "So long, Maggie Thatcher" song ( I can't rememebr the title). Last year it was very funny and most present at their concerts would have agreed. Now, however, is not the time to gloat.
Suestruggles wrote:Remember that when she took over the country we had high inflation, rising unemployment and british manufacturing industry was collapsong having been paralysed by strikes in the 1970s. We were known as the sickman of europe. 18 years later there wre no coal, mines no manufacturing industry bbut falling employment, low inflation and growing ecconomy.
New labour spent 8 years saying boom and bust was over thanks to them then suddenly when everything started falling apart it was the fault of Mrs thatcher 10 years earlier.
Yes my memory is biased and i never worked in a coal mine but is my memory any more distorted than Gerry adams or George Galloway's.
KP Presents wrote:This news has being expected for some time - and I find myself conflicted.
I first heard of her as Maggie Thatcher, Milk Snatcher, when in the early seventies as Education Secretary she stopped the supply of free school milk to children. When she became Prime Minister in 1979, Britain was a country in crisis, and there was no doubting her strong leadership and the firmness of her convictions. There is no doubting her leadership during the Flaklands War was an inspiration to many many people.
On the other hand, I found many of th epolicies she pursued reprehensible in the effect they had on innocent people. I lived in the NE of England during the Miner's Strike, and while the enws covered the battles at the picket lines I saw the families forced to accept food donations. I saw the effect she had on those less well off, and I can give one prime example. When I first went to University, it was only made possible by the fact my fees were paid and I had a full grant to live on. Had I gone a few years later, I would not have been able to afford it.
I also saw, as time went on through the eighties, the way she had a "them and us" attitude that caused major divisions. So I am conflicted - ont he one hand, she was arguable one of the greatest Prime Ministers of the last fifty years. On the other, I saw the hurt and pain her decisions caused those who were least able to fight back.
Still, I mourn her passing, and wish her final peace.
vantran wrote:KP Presents wrote:This news has being expected for some time - and I find myself conflicted.
I first heard of her as Maggie Thatcher, Milk Snatcher, when in the early seventies as Education Secretary she stopped the supply of free school milk to children. When she became Prime Minister in 1979, Britain was a country in crisis, and there was no doubting her strong leadership and the firmness of her convictions. There is no doubting her leadership during the Flaklands War was an inspiration to many many people.
On the other hand, I found many of th epolicies she pursued reprehensible in the effect they had on innocent people. I lived in the NE of England during the Miner's Strike, and while the enws covered the battles at the picket lines I saw the families forced to accept food donations. I saw the effect she had on those less well off, and I can give one prime example. When I first went to University, it was only made possible by the fact my fees were paid and I had a full grant to live on. Had I gone a few years later, I would not have been able to afford it.
I also saw, as time went on through the eighties, the way she had a "them and us" attitude that caused major divisions. So I am conflicted - ont he one hand, she was arguable one of the greatest Prime Ministers of the last fifty years. On the other, I saw the hurt and pain her decisions caused those who were least able to fight back.
Still, I mourn her passing, and wish her final peace.
She never wanted to recapture the Falklands. in fact, it was under her that she allowed the Argies to invade by reducing the defence there to a bare minimum and slashing the military
drawscore wrote:The "Iron Lady." Her most famous quote being "The trouble with socialism, is that sooner or later, you run out of other peoples' money."
Yes, as a former Prime Minister, she is deserving of a state funeral. However, if the Labour party prevents that, bring her body here. We will bury her in Arlington, with the honors she deserves.