ViXen_ShaDowßøunD wrote:And political correct pepole are fagots...
Thatworm wrote:Are we seriously going to fight over a name, it's supposed to be called Christmas but because of religious reasons, even religious people call it Christmas, I don't understand, but I can't change it so I'm asking admin to please change the name if you can to Xmas or what ever feels more confortable for everybody, honestly....
Chris12 wrote:
Um...I actually thing the general sentiment here is DON'T fight over the name
misterg792000 wrote:No one is "offended" by it, and the idea that anyone would be is an invention of the same overgrown children who whine and cry whenever christians aren't groveled and catered to every second of every day. The irony of choosing a holiday largely stolen from pagans (and a holiday whose traditions are virtually all modern anyway) to cry their little eyes out over is just the frosting on top.
Jason Toddman wrote:Yeah, I had to laugh when Christians made a big stink over how Starbucks didn't design their cups to their liking.Don't they realize that virtually all the symbols they squawk about the absence of aren't actually of Christian origin at all but co-opted from pagan celebrations? For that matter, Christmas and Easter are just as pagan in origin as Halloween more obviously is. If we held to strictly Christian/biblical references to Christmas, the holiday wouldn't even exist in any form we recognize!
misterg792000 wrote: Prior to the early/mid 1800s or so, it wasn't really recognizable to 20th or 21st century people. Adding to the irony, the folks making the most noise about Christmas being UNDER ATTACK (tm) tend to be the same ones that glorify the founding fathers....the same founding fathers who shunned Christmas, considering it a British tradition. They tend to be the same ones that glorify commerce...when merchants are the ones who started using "Happy Holidays" to try and appeal to any customer with money burning a hole in their pocket in the first place.