## Chuck Hagel resigns

Post by jsherwood » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:10 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30182410
rumour was he and Obama were at odds

### Re: Chuck Hagel resigns

Post by Jason Toddman » Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:43 pm

> jsherwood wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30182410
> rumour was he and Obama were at odds

I'd say rumor is an understatement. They were definitely at odds.
Normally I don't support GOP causes, but I think that lately Obama is handling the whole Mid-East situation pretty badly.
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### Re: Chuck Hagel resigns

Post by jsherwood » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:45 am

> Jason Toddman wrote:

> > jsherwood wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30182410
> > rumour was he and Obama were at odds

> I'd say rumor is an understatement. They were definitely at odds.
> Normally I don't support GOP causes, but I think that lately Obama is handling the whole Mid-East situation pretty badly.

Every policy in 2nd term obama administration is controlled by the white house inner circle. Not by departments.

### Re: Chuck Hagel resigns

Post by drawscore » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:52 am

Hagel was not a member of Obama's "inner circle," and there are rumors that it was not so much a disagreement with Obama that got Hagel fired, but rather, he pissed off Valerie Jarrett. That rumor has not been verified by anyone, but I don't consider it to be outside the realm of possibility. The only person closer to Obama than Valerie Jarrett, is his wife, Michelle.
Drawscore

### Re: Chuck Hagel resigns

Post by Jason Toddman » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:12 am

> drawscore wrote:Hagel was not a member of Obama's "inner circle," and there are rumors that it was not so much a disagreement with Obama that got Hagel fired, but rather, he pissed off Valerie Jarrett. That rumor has not been verified by anyone, but I don't consider it to be outside the realm of possibility. The only person closer to Obama than Valerie Jarrett, is his wife, Michelle.
> Drawscore

Okay, I'll bite. Who in hell in Valerie Jarrett?
Dare to be different... and make a difference.
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### Re: Chuck Hagel resigns

Post by jsherwood » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:15 am

> Jason Toddman wrote:

> > drawscore wrote:Hagel was not a member of Obama's "inner circle," and there are rumors that it was not so much a disagreement with Obama that got Hagel fired, but rather, he pissed off Valerie Jarrett. That rumor has not been verified by anyone, but I don't consider it to be outside the realm of possibility. The only person closer to Obama than Valerie Jarrett, is his wife, Michelle.
> > Drawscore

> Okay, I'll bite. Who in hell in Valerie Jarrett?

Obama's adviser.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Jarrett

### Re: Chuck Hagel resigns

Post by Jason Toddman » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:48 am

He has an official adviser? As in just one advise, and that one with an official title?
No wonder people are making so many jokes about 'His Royal Highness King Obama the First'. I thought grand viziers went out with kings and queens.
Also no wonder he's doing such a rotten job of running the country lately.
Dare to be different... and make a difference.
To boldly go where no one in their right mind has gone before...

### Re: Chuck Hagel resigns

Post by jsherwood » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:43 am

> Jason Toddman wrote:He has an official adviser? As in just one advise, and that one with an official title?
> No wonder people are making so many jokes about 'His Royal Highness King Obama the First'. I thought grand viziers went out with kings and queens.
> Also no wonder he's doing such a rotten job of running the country lately.

he has many advisers. Even though there are departments of x, y, z, he has advisers advising him on those issues. Same with Bush but Obama has dozens or hundreds of advisers on defense, state, even how to shit.

### Re: Chuck Hagel resigns

Post by jsherwood » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:44 am

some examples via wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:S ... _President
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:W ... use_Office