Of REAL Bondage

Postby mcsproot » Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:06 pm

I figured this was the best place to put this.

I sometimes read ladies gossip type magazines, usually my mothers but I often buy them from the newsagents. One I recently read had the cover story 'Tortured for my Facebook password'.

Upon reading, the woman in the story was in an abusive relationship. She gave her partner her facebook password, and he used her account to make posts with 'Have I slept with anyone recently, I can't remember lol' because he thought she was unfaithful. She left him, but as is sadly too often the case, she took him back. He tried he facebook again but she had changed her password and she wouldn't give it to him.

He tied her to a radiator, squirted shampoo in her eyes and hit her over the head with a ceramic ash tray until she gave it to him. He left her there all night, but in the morning she convinced him to untie her to use the toilet and she escaped.

Another one I read was about the case of Skylar DeLeon. I understand this story got some press coverage at the time. Not only was his crime horrible, but he was a child actor, his most notable role as a random child in Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers.

He was friends with an older couple and their family. The couple enjoyed boating, but were ready to sell the boat. Skylar showed interest and wanted to taken on a small cruise with his 'accountant' before they finalised the deal. Once they were at sea, the couple were handcuffed and gagged and blindfolded with tape. Several hours later, the tape was peeled from one eye, they were told to sign the contract to hand over the boat to Skylar and they would then be dropped off at a port in Mexico. They signed. Then a rope was tied around their waists, a rope tied to an anchor which was thrown overboard.

Skylar wanted the boat for use in money laundering, I understand he was sentenced to death for the double murder. I do not know if this sentence is correct or if it has been fully carried out.

The point I want to make is, when I read these stories, it might as well be erotic literature for the effect it has. The same when I hear on the news about kidnappings or tied up dead bodies being found.

What can be made of that?
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Re: Of REAL Bondage

Postby TUfriend » Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:17 pm

Umm, I don't know about you but I find true stories like this where the bondage is nonconsensual to be scary, less than erotic.
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Re: Of REAL Bondage

Postby mcsproot » Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:19 pm

TUfriend wrote:Umm, I don't know about you but I find true stories like this where the bondage is nonconsensual to be scary, less than erotic.


Probably a poor choice of words on my part.

It's the same feeling I get when I watch a thriller movie now I think more about it. Excited in a way.
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Re: Of REAL Bondage

Postby drawscore » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:03 pm

I think non-consensual bondage is a black eye to those who engage in bondage for fun, as a hobby, an interest, or just something to do, especially when torture, pain, or death is involved, and most especially when involving children. There is also a hell of a difference between types of non-consensual bondage. It's one thing for the new kid to be initiated into scouts, a sports team, or other organization, where, yeah, it's not consensual, and quite another to be kidnapped, tied to a chair or bed, then have the house set fire around you. In one case, there is (usually) no pain, and the "victim" is usually the one leading the charge when the next new kid joins. In the other, someone often winds up dead, and that's neither a good thing, nor is it fun.

And yes, we see kids on TV or in the movies, often be tied up "against their will" as a part of the plot/story line. It's dramatic and even an "exciting adventure" for the kid involved, but once again, there is no pain or torture, and the kid either gets loose or is rescued in the span of 24 or 47 minutes. But in the back of our minds, we know it's "all an act," performed for the program's audience, and the kid was never in any real danger.

Sometimes there's a happy ending. A few years back, a young teen was kidnapped from a school bus stop, driven several miles away, and left duct taped to a tree just off a state road. Somehow, the kid managed to get a paper clip from his jeans pocket, and used it to get through enough tape to the point where he was able to free himself. He was able to walk to a nearby convenience store, call the local sheriff's office, and was soon reunited with his parents. The kidnapper was caught a day later, and is now a guest of the state. He will, in all probability, remain a guest of the state for the next 20 or so years, in that beautiful vacation resort known as the Gray Bar Hotel.

Sometimes, the victims are not so fortunate.

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Re: Of REAL Bondage

Postby sarobah » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:04 pm

This comment may end up rather incoherent, because it’s difficult to put my thoughts precisely into words without writing a treatise.
I agree to an extent with mcsproot. Reading or hearing about stories such as these does stimulate a primitive part of most (or many or some) people’s brains, usually involuntarily and sometimes not even on a conscious level. Not being a psychologist or anthropologist, I don’t know whether this response is some sort of primordial, predatory instinct, or a “fight-or-flight” reflex that produces a hormonal response, or whatever.

Yet it’s rather strange, I personally cannot bear to watch movies or TV shows (or read stories) that feature distressing bondage, hostage situations, etc. I guess that’s because if it’s fiction, someone has deliberately created a situation which is meant to exciting or titillating to the general public. And, of course, the trend has now reached the extreme, in torture-porn movies like the Saw and Hostel series. It bothers me that this sort of thing is produced for entertainment.
Real-life situations, on the other hand, are not contrived for the purpose of entertainment (except the perpetrator’s). There is no guilt attached to my involvement in these events as there is when I am a willing observer/participant in a fictional situation.

A couple of years ago, I was involved in an incident which could have had a very nasty outcome. And I confess that there is a part of my brain which is... what’s the right word?... energized, maybe (because “aroused” or “stimulated” would give the wrong impression) ... by what might have happened.
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Re: Of REAL Bondage

Postby Jason Toddman » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:36 pm

It's normal to be fascinated, and perhaps even titillated, by stories such as no-consensual bondage when the outcome is not too bad or the event is fictional.
It might be a trifle disturbing if one is titillated by a story involving murder, but one still help but be fascinated down inside.
It's even not too abnormal to wonder what it'd be like to experience such a thing from the POV of the victim, and perhaps even consider engaging in such a scenario - at least, under reasonably safe and sane circumstances. I myself was 'kidnapped' by some neighbor kids and locked (still tied up) inside their barn for a while, with the connivance of my cousins. I was scared, but only to a point; perhaps naively, I was sure (despite my helplessness) that kids more or less my own age wouldn't *really* hurt me or keep me prisoner for too long - nor did they. If it'd been adults who'd taken me away though, I'd have probably wet myself in terror and maybe even fainted dead away!
But I digress; my point is that all the preceeding is quite harmless.
But if one starts developing fantasies of actually putting someone else into a dangerous situation like what we're discussing, that's getting into unhealthy territory for sure! And contemplating doing it in reality; then that person definitely needs professional help!
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