girl4boysub wrote:The two killers at Colombine were listening to Manson for weeks before their rampage Eminem is an artist who appeals to the modern ''gang culture'' he is a sick individual that has adopted afro american culture in spite of his white heritage.....he is a victim of modern society 40 years ago he would have become a proud man happy with his origin however today he ''raps'' about bad stuff. ...In Russia these two people would be sectioned to the asylum where they belong however in the west we allow these two degenartes to influence young minds
Scottstud94 wrote:girl4boysub wrote:The two killers at Colombine were listening to Manson for weeks before their rampage Eminem is an artist who appeals to the modern ''gang culture'' he is a sick individual that has adopted afro american culture in spite of his white heritage.....he is a victim of modern society 40 years ago he would have become a proud man happy with his origin however today he ''raps'' about bad stuff. ...In Russia these two people would be sectioned to the asylum where they belong however in the west we allow these two degenartes to influence young minds
Why are you so obsessed with murderers and school shooters? I strongly agree with XTC
ProfessorRemnant wrote: Yeah, I feel old too. Don't worry about it.
Jason Toddman wrote:ProfessorRemnant wrote: Yeah, I feel old too. Don't worry about it.
How do you think i feel? I was listening to the Beatles when they were still a 'modern' band in your sense of the word!!!
Jason Toddman wrote:ProfessorRemnant wrote: Yeah, I feel old too. Don't worry about it.
How do you think i feel? I was listening to the Beatles when they were still a 'modern' band in your sense of the word!!!
truly_trussed wrote:Founder and publisher Kal Rudman has said in interviews that the songs that we're most fond of in our lives came out when we were between the ages of 14 and 22.( I suspect many musicologists concur.) I
Jason Toddman wrote:truly_trussed wrote:Founder and publisher Kal Rudman has said in interviews that the songs that we're most fond of in our lives came out when we were between the ages of 14 and 22.( I suspect many musicologists concur.) I
That's only partially true of me at best. Although yes i am very fond of the music that came out in the 70's (when I was in that age group), I am equally fond of much music that has come out since. I have found i am especially fond of electronic (techno) music (and always related to it even as a kid), and am still finding new all-instrumental compositions I'd never heard before that i enjoy very much. I detest some modern so-called music (especially Rap, which i find devoid of any talent or imagination) but love other new music just as much as i loved the music i listened to as an adolescent... including scores from various movies and TV shows rather than actual songs.
BinderUK wrote: I've always found the 14-22 thing glib too. I do still listen to a fair amount of music from when I was younger, but I'll never stop looking for interesting new music. Maybe me being a musician has something to do with that, but most of my non muso friends are the same, so maybe not.
BinderUK wrote:Out of interest Jason, what do you think of Gil Scott Heron's 'The Revolution WIll Not Be Televised'? It's considered to be proto-rap and imo is lacking in neither talent or imagination. Or maybe I'm cheating as it's not technically rap!
truly_trussed wrote:When the Fab Four first appeared on The Ed Sullivan Show on February 9, 1964 a record 73 million people saw the show.
Jason Toddman wrote:I'm no musician either, so I lean toward the 'not' hypothesis.![]()
Jason Toddman wrote:Naw, Revolution is not really the same thing. That song actually makes sense, has a message, and is pleasant to listen to. The (c)rap I'm talking about is the type of junk anyone could put out there; even a no-talent bum like me.
Rap has lyrics that make no particular sense and no real message - unless it's: I'm a no-talent bum making money making this excrement because there are lots of tasteless dodo birds out there who'll buy it.
Moreover, most rap I've heard uses music that was sampled (stolen) from some other hard-working musician's work; usually in an extremely simplistic beat.(I may be mistaken, but the music in Revolution didn't sound sampled to me but was an original composition).
Rap simply appeals to the lowest common denominator and usually lacks intelligence or any verve. That said, I DO know of notable exceptions (don't ask me to name them; I haven't the slightest idea of their names), so a total condemnation of Rap is also kind of glib. But, in general, imo Rap is Crap.
xtc wrote:It's a good piece but Jazz musicians and poets have made such collaborations for a long time before the late Scott Heron.
sarobah wrote:When I was a lass, we listened to Black Sabbath and Slayer. Now that was REAL music.
girl4boysub wrote:I was just recently looking at the music my nephew listens to and i cannot believe that such trash is so much liked by teenagers. I am talking about ,,Eminem,, Marilyn Manson,, one is a white man who thinks he is afro american and the other is a devil worshiper who encourages kids to do as they please,... 3o years ago both of these men would have been in mental asylums yet for some reason today these are seen as music greats....i say if you have children please keep them away from music like these two mentally ill people as they will encourage young people to rebel,rape and kill