Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby SephySJ » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:28 am

I've noticed on the site when a lot of young people (as young as 14 from what I've seen) make posts about potentially getting together with other people from the site who have similar interests with them (often involving bondage), it seems to be the case that many older users, often members who's ages are 30 or over, tend to be the ones who are eager to meet up with these kids.

Now, I know that it's entirely on the person who posts about potentially meeting someone and it's up to them whether they decide to or not. But when young teenagers who possibly aren't 100% educated on the dangers of meeting up with strangers over the internet are approached by middle aged and older men, I think it is not only irresponsible, but bordering on pedophilia.

For the record I don't think kids this young should be posting such topics; they have every right to come onto the site and view its contents, but when they may be putting themselves in potential danger it makes me think. I know the majority of the users on this site are over 18, and probably the vast majority aren't interested in meeting anyone and simply in it for the TUG stories, but if you are a person who is offering to meet up with kids who aren't 18, then I don't think you should be allowed to post. Just my opinion, but hopefully these young kids who may be curious about such meetings will realise the potential danger they may be getting themselves into.

Sorry if I offend anyone with this post, but it genuinely disturbs me when I see this in the boards, which thankfully isn't too often.

Re: Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby shoxlover » Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:52 am

I agree. I am often uncomfortable even just seeing posts like "How would you tie me?" and seeing their age is below 18 and that's just text. Meeting up with them is a whole 'nother can of worms and should not be allowed or even discussed. It really is disturbing and makes me wonder if this is the right forum for me.

Re: Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby Jason Toddman » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:41 pm

Being only human, I, as an older person, would love having someone of a younger age tie me up. Let's face it; youth is more appealing than age - we all know it, and you don't have to be a pedophile to sometimes find younger people more appealing than older ones even when sex is not involved. But life being what it is, I know that such a thing as meeting younger people even for platonic TUGs is completely out of the question, inappropriate, and unsafe for all concerned. I always do my best to discourage such things myself. I don't even look at the How Would You Tie Me? section anymore, largely for the reasons you two have already discussed.
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Re: Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby Chris12 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:28 pm

I think most people know the danger by now. Not meeting up with older strangers is drilled into our heads from quite an early age.

Its not any of my bussiness either way but stil, i would really really discourage people from doing it. My answer to such offers if asked would thus always be ''no''

Re: Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby SephySJ » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:03 pm

I have confidence that a lot of kids will know better, and they'll realise once they've posted it that it probably wasn't a smart idea. And I can wholly get why an older person would want a younger person even just to chat to. But when it comes to much older people talking to under 18's, that's where the line should be drawn, I think. About something as sexual related as bondage or TUG's, no matter how harmless it may seem, I think it can only lead to trouble. But I respect the fact that 99% of older people on this site aren't like that.

Re: Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby Tieup1 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:08 pm

Some good points being made in this thread. Whatever age you are, you should be careful about who you should like to meet in real life, so to speak. Lets be honest, there are some weirdos out there.

I too am surprised at the amount of people on this forum who claim to be 15, 16 etc, some of them might know the risks, perhaps others don't. !

Advice to younger posters on this forum, by all means chat to people here, but as for meeting someone in person, give it a miss. Your best bet is to have a tug experience is with someone you have known for a long time, like a school friend.

Advice to older people on this forum, some younger posters on this forum are under the age of consent, please don't take advantage of their youth. Remember you were young once.

Everybody who uses this forum should be treated with respect, regardless of their age or gender.

Re: Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby jonny86 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:27 pm

I think it's freaken creepy and at times makes me not want to go on this board as often. The older people trying to meet minors should not be on this board.

Re: Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby SephySJ » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:32 pm

I'm glad the topic's gotten some good attention, and thanks for all your comments. As I've said, older people trying to hook up with young kids is unacceptable, but kids should know what they're doing before they make such posts. I think if we see such activity then we should either warn the moderators or tell the kids to remove their post, or both. Whether it'll help or not is another story, but as you say jonny, it would really put people off of contributing to the site.

Re: Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby MHW » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:47 pm

Thanks for posting to begin with. If your going to be worried about something, it's better that it's something valid like this.

Re: Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby drawscore » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:04 pm

Not everything on the internet is as it seems. That poster who says he is a 14 year old just getting in to TUGs, may, in reality, be 40, fat, and bald, with a pasty complexion from spending too much time in front of his computer. That poster could also be some pervert, who thinks inter-generational sex is a good thing (ie: NAMBLA), or he/she could be law enforcement, setting up a sting for the aforementioned pervert.

So take what you read here with a grain of salt. And if you do not personally know the poster, and actually ARE under 18, be very, very careful. Especially if someone tries to set up a meeting.

Drawscore

Re: Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby Rope_guy » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:58 pm

May I also remind readers that even the simple act of an adult tying up a minor can now legally be viewed as sexual assault.

Re: Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby Jason Toddman » Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:30 pm

Rope_guy wrote:May I also remind readers that even the simple act of an adult tying up a minor can now legally be viewed as sexual assault.

What about the other way around? :worried:
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Re: Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby MissTieMeUp » Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:36 am

shoxlover wrote:I agree. I am often uncomfortable even just seeing posts like "How would you tie me?" and seeing their age is below 18 and that's just text. Meeting up with them is a whole 'nother can of worms and should not be allowed or even discussed. It really is disturbing and makes me wonder if this is the right forum for me.


*oye* I agree. I saw one time someone who around 11/12 and I was like - should I even be talking to them about tieups? To me that was wrong. We need like a 30+ TUG room haha at least for me personally where I can talk TUG's with peeps in and around my age group and not feel like I am breaking a law b/c yeah under legal age it's just...even if no sexual stuff involved seems wrong. but again that's just me. and I wouldn't want someone who's 12 to tie me up, unless it was a son leaving me for his hunky single father hahaha :gag: (sorry I digress here)
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Re: Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby Discovery00 » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:43 pm

Rope_guy wrote:May I also remind readers that even the simple act of an adult tying up a minor can now legally be viewed as sexual assault.


It is definitely considered unlawful imprisonment.

Re: Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby Fesselfan » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:42 pm

Discovery00 wrote:
Rope_guy wrote:May I also remind readers that even the simple act of an adult tying up a minor can now legally be viewed as sexual assault.


It is definitely considered unlawful imprisonment.


Keep in mind, the legal aspects may vary wildly depending on which country you are in.

Aside from that, I agree with most things posted here. As an older member myself, for me I decided to keep away from most "kids" postings. But on the other hand, I wouldnt be interested in tying up a 16 year old kid to begin with...

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Re: Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby SamanthaBoundx » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:00 am

It's something that people should just avoid entirely. If someone is under the age of 16, they are a CHILD, meaning that they are vulnerable and are (legally) unable to provide their own informed consent in such situations. If an adult engages in any activity which could be viewed as sexual with a minor, it is classed as being abusive and explotative - regardless of whether the situation was consensual.

Of course, there are a lot of fine lines and blurry edges in this topic. What age constitutes adulthood? What counts as a sexual behaviour? And what if what you were doing wasn't meant in a sexual way? Ultimately, it's a personal decision. But I believe that there's a clear line. You know deep down if you gain sexual pleasure from the idea of bondage - and if, as most, you do (whether you are the one tying or the one being tied) it is wholly inappropriate and immoral to have "personal" conversations about it with children.

I've seen things on the forum that have made me very uncomfortable. 14 year olds posting "how would you tie me?" messages and getting responses from adults not only about how they would tie them, but the sexually explicit acts they would perform on them once they were tied. Kids posting near-nude images of themselves in some form of bondage and 30+ members telling them that they look "sexy" and asking them for more. I've been shocked on occasion that some of these threads (and users) haven't been removed - they are not only totally inappropriate, but sufficient to warrant arrest for the people involved in some cases.

I am not here to judge. If you're an older person and the idea of being in any way involved with a minor is attractive to you, then that's okay. Thought police don't exist - you can't help what you find attractive and you have the right to think about it in whatever way you will. But thought is where it has to stop. ACTING on those kind of desires is irresponsible and dangerous to all involved and should be avoided at all costs - it is (rightfully) illegal.

I appreciate that children do come to the forum, and I defend their right to do so. Most people here would say that they got into bondage at a pretty early age, and I think having the opportunity to discuss it and to know that you are completely normal is a wonderful thing. Simple discucssion about the matter can foster healthy attitudes and open mindedness. But they should be able to do this in a safe and non-threatening environment - and adults should be responsible enough to allow that.

Sorry for the essay xD

Sam

xxxx

Re: Older people who want to meet up with younger people.

Postby mistofoleese » Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:20 am

SamanthaBoundx wrote:It's something that people should just avoid entirely. If someone is under the age of 16, they are a CHILD, meaning that they are vulnerable and are (legally) unable to provide their own informed consent in such situations. If an adult engages in any activity which could be viewed as sexual with a minor, it is classed as being abusive and explotative - regardless of whether the situation was consensual.

Of course, there are a lot of fine lines and blurry edges in this topic. What age constitutes adulthood? What counts as a sexual behaviour? And what if what you were doing wasn't meant in a sexual way? Ultimately, it's a personal decision. But I believe that there's a clear line. You know deep down if you gain sexual pleasure from the idea of bondage - and if, as most, you do (whether you are the one tying or the one being tied) it is wholly inappropriate and immoral to have "personal" conversations about it with children.

I've seen things on the forum that have made me very uncomfortable. 14 year olds posting "how would you tie me?" messages and getting responses from adults not only about how they would tie them, but the sexually explicit acts they would perform on them once they were tied. Kids posting near-nude images of themselves in some form of bondage and 30+ members telling them that they look "sexy" and asking them for more. I've been shocked on occasion that some of these threads (and users) haven't been removed - they are not only totally inappropriate, but sufficient to warrant arrest for the people involved in some cases.

I am not here to judge. If you're an older person and the idea of being in any way involved with a minor is attractive to you, then that's okay. Thought police don't exist - you can't help what you find attractive and you have the right to think about it in whatever way you will. But thought is where it has to stop. ACTING on those kind of desires is irresponsible and dangerous to all involved and should be avoided at all costs - it is (rightfully) illegal.

I appreciate that children do come to the forum, and I defend their right to do so. Most people here would say that they got into bondage at a pretty early age, and I think having the opportunity to discuss it and to know that you are completely normal is a wonderful thing. Simple discucssion about the matter can foster healthy attitudes and open mindedness. But they should be able to do this in a safe and non-threatening environment - and adults should be responsible enough to allow that.

Sorry for the essay xD

Sam

xxxx

Samantha I couldnt have said it better myself