## can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by Plueschbabycd » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:42 am

Hallo,
can tell me how you would call the Room mark with "???" in English? It should room after front door, is in Germany the room your normally have the street shoes, jacket and coats.
Thank you
Andrew
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by xtc » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:58 am

Traditionally "cloakroom" but these days the cloakroom tends to be a euphemism for a downstairs WC.
It comes from the French word meaning travelling cloak. It was/is the room where one hangs one's cloaks. As not many people wear claoks these days, it's where the coats, jackets, boots, etc are stored (also used for throwing rubbish out of sight of visitors!).
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Post by Plueschbabycd » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:36 am

Hallo, xct thank that term used for in 2. Chapter of my story but found by online translation word vestibule for it. I was not sure because I see TV shows house in Florida look after the Frontdoor outher so I would describe how I it know.
Andrew
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by xtc » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:58 am

I wouldn't use "vestibule", that implies a "through room" between an entrance and another.
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Post by Plueschbabycd » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:20 am

> xtc wrote:I wouldn't use "vestibule", that implies a "through room" between an entrance and another.

Hallo xtc, than is this that right word, I mean "through room" that have only function first keep the cold in winter out of house and than an as place for wet dirty outdoor clothes and shoes. some home is that only part of floor.
Andrew
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by xtc » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:11 am

On your plan it might be a cloakroom. Or it could be a vestibule as long as the entrance door leads directly to it.
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Post by Plueschbabycd » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:10 pm

yes both left door on the side to office and this room door form above should frontdoors.
Andrew
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by xtc » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:58 pm

That makes it a vestibule. It might be used as a cloakroom. Use either.
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by drawscore » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:12 pm

Depending on the arrangements within the room itself, it might also be called a "walk-in closet."
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by TUfriend » Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:34 pm

I would just say closet.
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by xtc » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:47 am

I don't think closets (not a word we use much in Britain) usually have a door to the outside!
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by Plueschbabycd » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:54 am

Hallo, think closet is not what I mean. After what I get as translate is a closet more wardrobe that is integrate in the house.
For me now is best explanation a vestibule that is used as cloakroom.
In some home it would only the floor with a coat rack in it.
thank you very much
Andrew
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by drawscore » Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:51 pm

Considering its proximity to the dining room and kitchen, it might also be called a pantry.
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by TUfriend » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:32 pm

Oh, there are doors. I think that would be an entryway.
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by Jack Roper » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:35 pm

In New York City that would be a studio apartment.

### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by xtc » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:04 am

> Jack Roper wrote:In New York City that would be a studio apartment.

Boom! Boom!
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by Jason Toddman » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:21 pm

Pardon me for mixing in, but isn't 'foyer' the word you have been looking for?
A foyer in a public building can be a large space, but in a house it is usually a small entry area or room by the front door.
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by Plueschbabycd » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:43 am

> Jason Toddman wrote:Pardon me for mixing in, but isn't 'foyer' the word you have been looking for?
> A foyer in a public building can be a large space, but in a house it is usually a small entry area or room by the front door.

Hallo Jason Toddman, I ask today here person and this say foyer and vestibule both right word right. On the hand is for me foyer similar to Lobby.
what sure not mean is style of room what hear that call in American house "formal area"
Andrew
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by Jason Toddman » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:44 pm

Well, I can tell you that I have heard the word 'foyer' spoken a number of times, but never have I ever heard anyone use the word vestibule!
Oh it's a legitimate word all right; I've evenseen it in print a few times. But it's one of those obscure words you never hear spoken aloud - ever!
At least, not in my neck of the woods.
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by xtc » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:54 pm

Don't worry, Andrew, I'm editing your story into English, not American. I think "vestibule" in context is appropriate, it avoids the ambiguity of the British use of "cloakroom".
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by Jason Toddman » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:53 pm

> xtc wrote:Don't worry, Andrew, I'm editing your story into English, not American. I think "vestibule" in context is appropriate, it avoids the ambiguity of the British use of "cloakroom".

That's fine, it's none of MY business; but do YOU ever say that word out loud?
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by xtc » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:06 pm

Believe it or not, yes.
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by Plueschbabycd » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:44 pm

Hallo, only because want know it and want make sure that ever one understand it British and American people.
Andrew
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by TUfriend » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:47 pm

> xtc wrote:Don't worry, Andrew, I'm editing your story into English, not American. I think "vestibule" in context is appropriate, it avoids the ambiguity of the British use of "cloakroom".

American is not a language. And believe it or not, American English is closer to old English than Modern British English.
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by xtc » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:59 pm

Yes, I believe it is. I've often wondered why.
In my opinion English, American, Doric and Lallans are different languages that share a common root but which were separated by several centuries before the advent of electronic broadcatsing. They have different grammars[*], different verbal declensions[**] and different vocabularies[***].
[*] "You have to, don't you" (not the best example but it's 01:40 BST at present).
[**] "gotten" (yes, I agree about the older form of tha language), etc.
[***] Pissed, fanny, closet, faggot, restroom, lift, etc.
Before the excellent Drawscore points it out, I know this isn't an original argument but it's always fun to pursue.
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by Jason Toddman » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:37 pm

> xtc wrote:Yes, I believe it is. I've often wondered why.

Because all the smart Brits came over here to live!
Sorry, but that seemed too good a chance to pass up a zinger like that!
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by xtc » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:45 pm

Like it! We passed in the ether as I was editing my previous post!
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by Jason Toddman » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:50 pm

I thought your post looked a trifle different since I commented on it!
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Post by xtc » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:54 pm

Anything to undermine an opponent!
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### Re: can tell how do you call in English roomname

Post by Jason Toddman » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:56 pm

Maybe, but I like my theory better!
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