The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Jack Roper » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:53 pm

It looks like Mitt Romney will attempt to ban porn once he's elected. I imagine sites like this may be a thing of the past....FYI.

Mitt Romney Outlines Anti-Porn Stance In 2008 (to see the VIDEO go to the Huffington Post today)

Posted: 04/23/2012 3:31 pm Updated: 04/23/2012 3:31 pm

GOP presidential frontrunner Mitt Romney was an outspoken opponent of online pornography during his campaign in 2008, video uncovered by BuzzFeed reminded readers on Monday.

At a campaign stop in Iowa in 2007, Romney spoke about the need to "clean up the water that our kids are swimming in," singling out "pornography, the drug culture, the violence, the sex, the perversion that bombards them day in and day out."

Romney continued:

"I wanna make sure that every new computer sold in this country after I'm president has installed on it a filter to block all pornography and that parents can click that filter to make sure their kids don't see that kinda stuff coming in on their computer."

It sounds like a page out of the playbook of former GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum, who earlier this year publicly attacked the Obama administration for being weak on pornographers and vowed to "vigorously" enforce obscenity laws to stem the availability of pornographic materials.

While Romney has been largely quiet on the issue during his 2012 campaign -- he did outline a similar stance on the matter after signing a social conservative pledge, ThinkProgress reports -- he felt strongly enough about it in 2008 to tie it into an ad.

ThinkProgress also reports that at least one Romney supporter would probably suffer if the former Massachusetts governor's latest pledge and prior positions were put into effect:

But campaign filings show that, last September, Romney accepted the maximum campaign contribution of $2,500 from Daniel Staton, the chairman of Friend Finder Networks Inc. that owns -- among several other properties -- Penthouse, BDSM sites like Bondage.com and BDSM.com, and LikeMyNudePhoto.com. Romney also accepted $2,000 from Staton and an additional $2,300 from Friend Finder Network CEO Marc Bell during his failed 2008 presidential campaign.

Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby xtc » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:48 pm

I presume that the joke that was circulating this side of the Pond when Dubbyah was in office is still relevant?

"What do you think about the possible future President's being a Mormon?"
"I don't think the extra "m" will make much difference."

Sorry if it's too well known, but I enjoyed it so welcome back an old friend!
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but little speedos rule!

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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Jason Toddman » Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:48 pm

If porn could be so easily banned, it would have vanished many years ago. Even if Romney wins, it will be just one more promise made that is quickly forgotten, and never seriously acted upon. A war on porn is like the WQar on Drugs and the War on Poverty... unwinnable!
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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby xtc » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:36 am

Don#t forget the "War on Terr."
Boxer shorts are cool,
but little speedos rule!

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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Fesselfan » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:17 am

Well, seeing that in the past, the US was one of the (western) countries who officially shunned p0rn the most...and in turn, a lot of p0rn being produced in the very same country...I'll skip the conclusion :)

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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Jason Toddman » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:12 am

xtc wrote:Don#t forget the "War on Terr[or]."

Hell yeah, you're right... I thought I'd missed a good one!!!
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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby drawscore » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:02 am

Haven't you heard? The war on terror is over! Barrack and Hillary said so, so it must be true.

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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Jason Toddman » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:21 am

Maybe *they* think it's over, but to use an old cliche the fat lady hasn't sung yet.
No one with any sense or knowledge of world events seriously believes terrorism is history by a long shot.
Maybe US official involvement with fighting terrorism openly is over... maybe... but that's as far as it goes and I think even that is a total fantasy.
For someone in the State Department to actually announce that the War on Terror is over only proves how out of touch with reality the Feds actually are.
If Obama actually says this, it's probably the dumbest thing he's said so far in his Presidency, too!
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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby drawscore » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:33 am

I think it was General Arthur MacArthur (Douglas MacArthur's father) who faced a Muslim insurgency in the Phillipines right after the Spanish-American War. His troops captured 50 of them, and he lined up 49 of them in front of a large trench, and promptly had them shot. Then, he had pig carcasses thrown in to the trench with the bodies, and covered it over. The 50th man was released. He went back and told the other insurgents what had happened, and they decided it probably would not be a good idea to screw with MacArthur, or any of his troops or their families. They didn't have any more problems with insurgents after that.

Sometimes strong measures need to be taken. The only problem, is that our leaders in Washington suffer from a disease called "political correctness," which has caused them to lose their testicular fortitude.

Drawscore

Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby drawscore » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:38 am

Political Correctness: A philosophy put forth by politicians, and promoted by a willing and compliant media, that says it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby skybird137 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:10 am

Many governments take 'strong measures'

Stalin's
Pol pot's
Mao Zedong's
The Spanish Monarchy with Torquemada
Various North Korean Governments
The European Churches against women with cats.

It no longer amazes me that people proclaim great evil using the excuse "Strong measures need to be taken"

I would not be surprised that there are people out there, drawscore, who would want you and me to be dangling at the end of a rope, beacuse we are a 'disease' in humanity.

They would want these 'strong measures' to be taken
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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Jason Toddman » Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:17 am

drawscore wrote:I think it was General Arthur MacArthur (Douglas MacArthur's father) who faced a Muslim insurgency in the Phillipines right after the Spanish-American War. His troops captured 50 of them, and he lined up 49 of them in front of a large trench, and promptly had them shot. Then, he had pig carcasses thrown in to the trench with the bodies, and covered it over. The 50th man was released. He went back and told the other insurgents what had happened, and they decided it probably would not be a good idea to screw with MacArthur, or any of his troops or their families. They didn't have any more problems with insurgents after that.

Sometimes strong measures need to be taken. The only problem, is that our leaders in Washington suffer from a disease called "political correctness," which has caused them to lose their testicular fortitude.

Drawscore


These days that would be considered just another act of barbaric terrorism. Many tactics that were considered acceptable a century ago were nothing more than tyranny on out part; including the US's acquisition of the entire Southwestern portion from Texas westward from Mexico.
If these kind of strong measures that you cite are something that you actually support, then personally I think there is something wrong with your sense of ethics. It's people like MacArthur that have created many of the international problems we are currently facing there and elsewhere in the first place and caused such violent hatred of us from many places abroad. What you call testicular fortitude is nothing more than racial arrogance and tyranny.
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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby drawscore » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:48 pm

Because I mention the "strong measures" taken by MacArthur, you erroneously assume that I approve of them. Actually, shooting 49 of them was a bit of overkill. Somewhere between two and five of the most senior terrorists probably would have been sufficient.

As I said before, I agree with the statement attributed to an Escambia County (Pensacola) Florida county commissioner: "If hooking up the testicles of a captured terrorist to a car battery or generator saves the life of even one American service member, I have two things to say - Red is positive; black is negative."

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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Kyle » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:18 pm

I'm a long way from being some bleeding-heart liberal, but the minute you begin engaging in terrorist activities you cease to have the moral high grounds and become exactly what you claim to oppose.

Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Jason Toddman » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:55 pm

Kyle wrote:I'm a long way from being some bleeding-heart liberal, but the minute you begin engaging in terrorist activities you cease to have the moral high grounds and become exactly what you claim to oppose.

My thinking exactly. Brutality in the name of freedom makes us no different than the terrorists we're fighting against.Just because it was SOP for centuries does NOT mean it deserves to remain part of our government's official policy; if anything, it only makes the problem worse. Just look at the whole Abu Ghraib prison fiasco! And if hunting for terrorists ever (more fully) adopts a witch hunt mentality, then no one of us would be safe from the over zealous protectors of our 'freedom'. I for one do NOT want to see the use of tactics smacking of those used by the Spanish Inquisition for whatever reason!!!
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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Jason Toddman » Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:05 pm

drawscore wrote:Because I mention the "strong measures" taken by MacArthur, you erroneously assume that I approve of them.

Well now... let's see... here's your entire post again verbatim, with no changes, aditions, or deletions on my part...

drawscore wrote:I think it was General Arthur MacArthur (Douglas MacArthur's father) who faced a Muslim insurgency in the Phillipines right after the Spanish-American War. His troops captured 50 of them, and he lined up 49 of them in front of a large trench, and promptly had them shot. Then, he had pig carcasses thrown in to the trench with the bodies, and covered it over. The 50th man was released. He went back and told the other insurgents what had happened, and they decided it probably would not be a good idea to screw with MacArthur, or any of his troops or their families. They didn't have any more problems with insurgents after that.
Sometimes strong measures need to be taken. The only problem, is that our leaders in Washington suffer from a disease called "political correctness," which has caused them to lose their testicular fortitude.
Drawscore

Well, Drawscore, I see no hint of condemnation of MacArthur's methods here; you express admiration, if anything. The only criticism I find is criticism of a lack of 'testicular fortitude' on the part of leaders who do NOT use 'strong measures'. Sorry DS, but it sure sounds like approval on your part to me! Hell, what conclusion can any reasonable person reading this draw but that you not only approve but that you'd like to see this happen again to combat terrorism today - perhaps starting at Gitmo and spreading out from there?
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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby drawscore » Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:19 pm

I don't see anything indicating I approved of them, either. Just a statement of fact. This happened, period. But believe what you want. I don't care.

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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Jason Toddman » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:14 am

Taken in its context, I read implied approval from you in what he did and now you're trying to back out of it without admitting it (something a lot of conservatives do in my experience), but, as you say, it doesn't matter what I think of your opinions.
After all, you're not AFAIK a politician.
Maybe though you should be more understanding of the context of what other people say. What I did just now is no different and no worse (and IMO nowhere near as bad) than what you (or other conservatives) do whenever you jump down Obama's throat whenever he says something you don't like (which seems to be virtually everything). All that hyper-criticism of the man from Day One of his Presidency for the slightest pretexts has only helped create the gridlock we have in Government.
For example, some people yammer that his Presidency is illegal because he said "So Help me God" when he took the Oath of Office. Well, so did Teddy Roosevelt... a Republican... but you never hear anyone condemning him for doing it! There was a precedent for this then,which Obama simplyfollowed, but so many people are so quick to condemn him on any pretext (birth certficate anyone?) that this is forgotten. Now, if he'd said, so help me Allah, then maybe they'd have a case, but he said God (and so screw off all you dum-dums who say he's really a Muslim).
IOW if you don't like being on the defensive, then don't be so quick to condemn someone else (I mean other people, not members of this board) for what they say. Sure, it's your right as an American citizen, but then it's a two-way street.
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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby drawscore » Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:54 pm

You're beginning to sound like Obama's Minister of Propaganda, Jay Carney.

Obama is a hypocrite. He promised the "most open and honest administration ever," yet has gone to great lengths and expense to keep his college and law school records sealed. If a Republican had done that, the media would have been all over him about it, and someone in the registrars' offices would have leaked the records. And you know it!

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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Jason Toddman » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:21 pm

drawscore wrote:You're beginning to sound like Obama's Minister of Propaganda, Jay Carney.
Drawscore

No, I sound like myself. I never even heard of Jay Carney, let alone ever heard anything he said.
Is it beyond your comprehension that someone can form his own opinions without being a dyed-in-the-wool conservative, or are you under the incredibly naive impression that anyone who thinks for himself must think like you and anyone else must be victim of propaganda?

drawscore wrote:Obama is a hypocrite. He promised the "most open and honest administration ever," yet has gone to great lengths and expense to keep his college and law school records sealed. If a Republican had done that, the media would have been all over him about it, and someone in the registrars' offices would have leaked the records. And you know it!
Drawscore

And so it goes; just like I said you would. Petty crap again. Like the man's understandable wish for privacy means he has, what... a closed and diushonest administration? Who gives a F**K about Obama's college and law school records? Unless it's to find more petty BS reasons to undermine him,why is any of your business or mine what's in there? You think anyone has any business peeking into your history? I'd bet you would raise the roof if anyone tried to peek into YOUR old records! So then why do you feel Obama is fair game?
Talk about being a hypocrite!
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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby drawscore » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:14 pm

It's not about the records. It's about saying one thing, then doing another. It's about saying your administration is going to be "open and honest," then spending boatloads of money to keep your academic records under seal. Especially when the academic records of your political opponents are open for inspection. It's about your attorney general being less than forthcoming with congress, not providing the records they have subpoenaed, and possibly being hit with a contempt of congress citation.

Doesn't sound like an "open and honest" administration to me.

And Jay Carney is Obama's press secretary. You know, the guy who goes out before the media, and tells them what a great job Obama is doing. He holds a masters degree in bovine excrement.

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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Jack Roper » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:33 pm

Amazing how this thread has devolved from Romney going after porn on the internet to....this!

Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Kyle » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:22 pm

Yeah, when I made my post above I didn't pay attention to what the thread was really about and just assumed it was on-topic. OOPS. I should pay more attention next time.

I figure it's like many politicians' promises: it's something said to make a certain segment of the voting population happy while little to nothing is really planned to be done about it. If it was really something he was serious about it would've been brought up before this. I could be wrong, but that's my general take on the issue.

Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Jason Toddman » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:32 pm

Jack Roper wrote:Amazing how this thread has devolved from Romney going after porn on the internet to....this!

Though I admit to my share of this (for which I apologize), such devolution seems inevitable when Drawscore gets into one of of his picky rants about the Obama Administration on the slightest pretext. I could almost wish Romney would win the election just so Drawscore and all the other pseudo-racist hyper-conservatives would shut the hell up about Obama already.
Almost.
Besides, then everyone else would simply bitch about Romney.
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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Chase Ricks » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:36 pm

Not all people wish to see this debate continue. I only wish to see that people stop fighting about who has the right ideas about ethical treatment of terrorists and yes I am still voting for Mitt Romney in November. Now please feel free to return to the original topic of this forum.
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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby skybird137 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:09 am

drawscore wrote:As I said before, I agree with the statement attributed to an Escambia County (Pensacola) Florida county commissioner: "If hooking up the testicles of a captured terrorist to a car battery or generator saves the life of even one American service member, I have two things to say - Red is positive; black is negative."

Drawscore


And with that statement you completely condone the mass torture and murder of human beings over the centuries of the European witch mania, not to mention the sending of people to various types of camps and gulags in the 20th century and beyond.

These actions are always under the pretext of saving people, their souls or certain ideologies from 'corruption' Always the same pitiful excuse, dressed up in different ways.

There were very few people executed in the witch mania in England compared to the rest of Europe. For one simple reason:

It was illegal to use torture to gain information. The only time it was used was by personal order of the King against Guy Fawkes and only on the grounds that he was already caught red handed. Even the king was troubled about ordering this. It seems odd that medieval England could have better morals in some areas than 21st century USA.

Also don't try using any of those 'what if situations' requiring a yes or no answer. There were already discredited with the old 'Have you stopped beating your wife yet?'
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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby drawscore » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:02 pm

>>>Drawscore and all the other pseudo-racist hyper-conservatives<<<

And you jump on me for calling your opinions "bullshit," then a few days later, you show your true hypocrite colors. Of course, I know (or at least I think I know) what you meant, but your choice of words was poor. "Pseudo" means "false." So, by your words, I am a "false racist hyper conservative." (or not one at all)

One other thing: When arguing or debating opponents resort to calling each other names, or otherwise insulting each other, it is essentially an admission that they have a weak argument, and are trying to distract those following the discussion from that fact.

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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby drawscore » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:10 pm

>>>And with that statement you completely condone the mass torture and murder of human beings over the centuries of the European witch mania, not to mention the sending of people to various types of camps and gulags in the 20th century and beyond.<<<

While all human life is important, I happen to think that the lives of those who put on the uniform to preserve, protect, and defend our country and our way of life, are more important than the lives of those trying to kill us, and take that away from us. If you have a problem with that, I'm sorry.

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Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Chris12 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:50 pm

While all human life is important, I happen to think that the lives of those who put on the uniform to preserve, protect, and defend our country and our way of life, are more important than the lives of those trying to kill us, and take that away from us. If you have a problem with that, I'm sorry.


While i can symphatise with that claim its hardly a valid one.

As you said you happen to think the live of American soldiers are worth more then, say the Taliban but don't you think those people think exactly the same? They too claim reserve, protect, and defend their country and their way of life since unlike Al queda those guys don't care about destroying america but merely to kick them out of their country .It doesn't make them any more symphafetic in our eyes but still........

So when you use that claim as an excuse it means they too are allowed to use it as one as they think the lives of their own have more value then those of the ones currently ''occupying'' their country.

See where i'm going? (somewhat) Justifying torture because the lives of your enemies have less value then those of your ally's is silly
because how valuable someone's life is depends solely on which side your on.

Re: The Mormon is coming...for your porn!

Postby Kyle » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:03 pm

The government that allows the torture of terrorists isn't far off from allowing the torture of its own citizens too.