31acujoker wrote:Gee I didn't know racism was a norm on this forum
Jason Toddman wrote:31acujoker wrote:Gee I didn't know racism was a norm on this forum
Who are you calling out? Me or Drawscore?
Normally I have no problem with race, and genuinely hate to sound racist. But do you have a Somalian community where you live? I do, and let me tell you these people are enough to make all but the most blindly liberal person in the world reconsider the entire matter of whether equality of races necessarily mean other races make good neighbors. The are cliquish to the point of snobbery, noisy, rude, and unpleasant in general. I have to move one time because they 'revitalized' the neighborhood I was living in by building cheap housing all over the block, and their moving in turned a once-quiet and peaceful neighborhood into sheer bedlam. Most of them were on welfare yet were living better than I was despite having a steady job at the time. WTF?
31acujoker wrote:Fair enough, I can't change how you feel, I'd just hoped that maybe you'd be able to see things from a different perspective, but again, it's not for me to tell you how to feel. Just for the record, there may not be many Somalis in Australia but there are plenty of Sudanese, they get a bad rep with the general public simply because the media decides to cover a bunch of teens being dickheads. I know several Sudanese people and they're some of the most polite and respectful people I know...
But hey, at the end of the day, I shall respect your views and hope you can respect mine
EmperorDave wrote:I am a bit confused why do you put refugees in quotations?
31acujoker wrote:Gee I didn't know racism was a norm on this forum
Kyle wrote:Why do so many people think the Hispanics have more of some kind of birthright to the land than other people with European descent? Were the Spanish just more righteous in their pillaging and destruction of Native Americans than the British and French?
Jason Toddman wrote:Kyle wrote:Why do so many people think the Hispanics have more of some kind of birthright to the land than other people with European descent? Were the Spanish just more righteous in their pillaging and destruction of Native Americans than the British and French?
Nope; they were at least as bad. However, the nationality of their European ancestry is irrelevant. The Mexicans were down there long before the British and French. And considering the vast majority of Mexicans have Native American ancestry (the Spaniards interbred with the natives much more widely and freely than the French and English did), I still say Mexicans have the superior claim. Besides, they had established their country there first. Another thing is that, unlike in the areas taken over by the states, indigenous peoples weren't anywhere near as thoroughly wiped out south of the border - and of those that were, the blame can be laid on the door of the original Spanish settlers rather than their Hispanic descendants. Sure, there was some cultural clashes between them too, but Native Americans did better in Central and South America than they did up here in the US going into the 20th century. Hell, Canada also has a better record of treating its Native Americans than the US does. In that regard, the US has a cruel and violent history when it comes to the people we displaced. In some places like Texas, Indians were virtually exterminated without mercy!
Manifest destiny was seen as glory to the USA, but to people we displaced we were are are nothing more than invaders and murderers. It doesn't matter than it was centuries ago; the fact remains... and we accede to that bloody history by our continued actions against other peoples on either side of the border.
misterg792000 wrote:EmperorDave wrote:I am a bit confused why do you put refugees in quotations?
Because he's suffering from the common delusion amongst right wingers that there's a secret worldwide Muslim conspiracy to invade the west and implement Sharia Law or, presumably, steal our white women.
31acujoker wrote: Yeah unfortunately here in Australia our history is not much different at all when it comes to relations with the Aboriginal peoples, lots of injustice, murder, thievery and the like.
31acujoker wrote:Yeah don't get me wrong though the number of people who care for aboriginal rights is starting to vastly exceed those who don't. And you should definitely come to Australia, you'll find we pretty much are the laid-back types you describe
Chris12 wrote:31acujoker wrote:Yeah don't get me wrong though the number of people who care for aboriginal rights is starting to vastly exceed those who don't. And you should definitely come to Australia, you'll find we pretty much are the laid-back types you describe
Pretty much every Australian animal can kill(and will) though
EmperorDave wrote:I am a bit confused why do you put refugees in quotations?
drawscore wrote:EmperorDave wrote:I am a bit confused why do you put refugees in quotations?
My apologies for not getting back sooner. I am not at home, and the Wi-Fi connection in my hotel leaves much to be desired. I have since changed hotels, and the Wi-Fi here, is much better.
"Refugees" was in quotes because many of them are not refugees. They come in, and expect their new country to adapt to them, rather than them adapting to their new country.
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