Bound and Gagged: Or Gagged and Bound

Postby w3sKer96 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:31 pm

First tugs post, so hope this goes well. :quirk:

It seems that on this site, gags and body bondage tend to go hand in hand. I think, from my long time of scouring the place, that most people want the complete package. But I know that some people like certain aspects of tugs and stuff more so than other complementary factors and angles. And for me (and hopefully for others on this site), gags are the favorite aspect, and may often be the focal point. You can bet with my posts, the subject will be easy to know.

For me, I have to say that gagged and bound is more descriptive of my liking. If I see any guy (I'm a m/m guy) tied up in a scene or in a pic, if there is no gag, the whole package has less of an impact. Practically every pic that I have involves the gag being zoomed in on :gag: . It's just the perfect repression of a human being. Even tied up and stuff, the voice represents the aspect of individuality and persuasion that is within our control. Without the gag, we could call for help, use our teeth or mouth for the ropes or other objects that bind us, or we might even persuade the captor to be lenient or let us go (this is all resembling the fantasy of the scene, not when you are actually captured by someone against your will). A gag prevents all that and stifles that last bit of humanity in us. All final avenues of getting attention or pleading your case go out the window, and you are that more bound, inhuman, an object for the use of the dominant person of the scene.

Bondage is essentially layer upon layer of reinforcement of control. Were kept from moving, from fidgeting, our capacity for motion reverted back to that of something not fully human. Each bit of rope and tape around you reinforces those below it. but most people often don't see the bondage as reinforcing the gag :bound: . When I see a tight one or multi-layered one over a guys mouth, I like to think the gag isn't going anywhere. and when I see the hands tied, I KNOW that the gag is not coming off.

And for me, the gag almost acts as an incentive to rebel. Nothing beats trying to scream or convey something to your 'captor' and all that's coming out is mmmph, mllmgph, and all that gibberish. Without your voice, you are nothing but an object to tie up and gag.

Wow, that was a long post. sorry everyone for getting carried away :oops: . Feel free to comment. Anyone else? :odd:

Re: Bound and Gagged: Or Gagged and Bound

Postby ebascoray » Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:52 pm

Well, your thoughts seem logical; probably a lot of folks on this site think the same way. Thanks for posting them!

Ebascoray

Re: Bound and Gagged: Or Gagged and Bound

Postby w3sKer96 » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:45 pm

thanks ebasocoray. what about you? What is the gag to you? and does it have that much importance?

Re: Bound and Gagged: Or Gagged and Bound

Postby Nexus » Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:33 pm

I pretty much agree entirely. 2 things that are essentially a MUST for me in tugs are 1) gags 2) barefeet.

I could never quite explain why the gag was so important, but you nailed it pretty good.

Re: Bound and Gagged: Or Gagged and Bound

Postby SamanthaBoundx » Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:16 pm

I agree entirely!! Although being bound AND gagged is nice, if it was an either/or situation, then I would rather be gagged than bound.

I think there is something incredily sensual about being gagged - it feels very submissive, even more so than being tied. I think the fact that speech is something you use so often (in my case, probably more so than proper movement!) and is such a basic human function that being prevented from doing so (unless your partner deems it necessary) is very powerful. From experience, I much prefer just being gagged in a sexual situation than just being bound in a sexual situation (although I normally get both!).

The other beauty of only being gagged is that it takes significantly less time. My fiance often gags me while we're in the house for no reason other than the fact that he likes to watch and listen to me - and it doesnt take ages to set up!

Though in a perfect world - gagged and bound is the best! :)

Re: Bound and Gagged: Or Gagged and Bound

Postby PetSilkenvixen » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:02 pm

No question. I'm not completely helpless unless I'm tied up and gagged.

And if you're not going to gag me, why bother tying me up?
Christyne

Re: Bound and Gagged: Or Gagged and Bound

Postby james14 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:58 am

Exactly- none I have tied up has said "do not gag me"! My freind Jen always says that without being silenced there is something missing for her - I take that view,
My ex used to like being tied and gagged too- however we used to go out into the country where nobody was and she used to shout out for help whilst tied up but of course she knew nobody would hear and I used to tell her that in no uncertain terms!! But as someone says what is the point of tieong someone up so they cannot escape then leaving out the gag. A male friend has a sort of cell in the cellar of his house and it is soundproof so when he uses various instruments on his victim(btw- they do consent)he can here their shouts etc. One of mine used to like being tied and call me a bas...d etc when I really had tied her very tight and ensured there was no escape, but in the main most like being gagged- however choice is the thing here though.

Re: Bound and Gagged: Or Gagged and Bound

Postby BondoFox » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:55 pm

I don't care what anyone says, a gag is mandatory!

See, I'm a DiD guy first, a bondage Master second. If I kidnap a girl, or break into her house and tie her up, I'm going to have to gag her if I expect to reduce the possibility of my getting caught. I also don't want to hear her pleading, crying, begging not to be tied up or gagged, et cetera et cetera. She needs gagged, and she needs to know she's gagged.

From a D/s standpoint, a gag keeps my pet quiet, and humbled. She knows to speak when spoken to. And if I decide I want a discipline session with her, I don't get neighbors knocking on my door 8)
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Re: Bound and Gagged: Or Gagged and Bound

Postby w3sKer96 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:54 pm

I like the way you think BondoFox. You seem to get the function down to a T :)

Re: Bound and Gagged: Or Gagged and Bound

Postby dreadnaught3200 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:05 pm

This may be the wrong place to post my opinion here, seeing as this is a board of gag fanatics... To me the function of a gag in bondage can best be described as the icing on the cake. Which makes sense, given that to many people, a birthday cake isn't really a cake without the icing on it. Which is totally understandable. Though for my own part, I think that being bound is more important than being gagged. Realistically, bondage can exist without gagging, but there's no point in gagging someone without binding them (Perhaps with the exception of the Scold's Bridle or something like that) cause they'll just take it right off. So If I HAD to choose, I'd take just being bound over just being gagged. The purpose of tying someone up is to neutralize them as a physical threat. Whereas the only real point of gagging someone is to further subjugate, and or humiliate them, with very little practical purpose.

So yes, I'd take just cake over just icing. But don't get me wrong! Gags are great. I love them! And certainly the best way to be is gagged and bound.
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Re: Bound and Gagged: Or Gagged and Bound

Postby BoundJiraxys15 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:55 pm

PetSilkenvixen wrote:No question. I'm not completely helpless unless I'm tied up and gagged.

And if you're not going to gag me, why bother tying me up?


You, have just won this forum.
Handgag me. Hogtie/Chairtie/Frogtie me in my bare feet. My dirty socks wadded up and shoved in my mouth secured by duct tape wrapped around my mouth, ballgag, or both. Nude or just in my skibby's. Tickle me, feminize me, I won't care.

Re: Bound and Gagged: Or Gagged and Bound

Postby BondoFox » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:47 pm

w3sKer96 wrote:I like the way you think BondoFox. You seem to get the function down to a T :)


Thanks! I've done a considerable amount of writing bondage stories and fantasies, most of which center around kidnap and burglar scenarios. I not only think, I over-think! 8)
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Re: Bound and Gagged: Or Gagged and Bound

Postby MissTieMeUp » Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:23 am

SamanthaBoundx wrote:I agree entirely!! Although being bound AND gagged is nice, if it was an either/or situation, then I would rather be gagged than bound.

I think there is something incredily sensual about being gagged - it feels very submissive, even more so than being tied. I think the fact that speech is something you use so often (in my case, probably more so than proper movement!) and is such a basic human function that being prevented from doing so (unless your partner deems it necessary) is very powerful. From experience, I much prefer just being gagged in a sexual situation than just being bound in a sexual situation (although I normally get both!).

The other beauty of only being gagged is that it takes significantly less time. My fiance often gags me while we're in the house for no reason other than the fact that he likes to watch and listen to me - and it doesnt take ages to set up!

Though in a perfect world - gagged and bound is the best! :)


As always I do agree with you Sam my dear, although I lack the willing partner to gag me on a whim ;) Lucky gurl!

I think a gag completes the whole bondage scenario and I wouldn't do RP without a gag b/c then the scene would be incomplete. Even for the sub such as myself, the rush of having your speech taken away is also turn on and a power play. *sigh* yes a perfect world indeed...where is it? lol :D
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Re: Bound and Gagged: Or Gagged and Bound

Postby Kyle » Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:00 pm

I'm probably odd in that very few of my tie-ups ever featured gags, mostly because nothing suitable for gagging ever seemed to be laying around, I guess. The exception to that was mouth tapings, when somebody got ahold of some tape and almost inevitably someone's mouth got taped, including mine on at least a couple of occasions, but I don't really consider those tie-ups in any sense. I guess because of that I see gags more as a bonus than a necessity. If you're doing a kidnapping role play though you really do need a gag.

Re: Bound and Gagged: Or Gagged and Bound

Postby TUfriend » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:28 pm

I don't hate gags, but they're not the first thing I think of. I'd much rather be immobile than mute. The gag adds to the affect and I like it, but I'm picky. No socks. Nothing shoved in my mouth. I like tape wrapped sound my head or a cleave gag from a bandana or something.
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