Chris12 wrote:With America nuking two cities i'd say the debt from pearl harbour is already paid.
Japan doesn't cry about the result of a war they started but I can get it. Pearl harbour was a military base right? Hiroshima and Nagasaki where cities full of civilians.
Chris12 wrote:With America nuking two cities i'd say the debt from pearl harbour is already paid.
Japan doesn't cry about the result of a war they started but I can get it. Pearl harbour was a military base right? Hiroshima and Nagasaki where cities full of civilians.
Kyle wrote: Hiroshima was chosen because it was the site of a major army depot and had some industry that helped the Japanese war effort. Nagasaki was a backup target after Kokura, another city with important war-related industry.
Kyle wrote: Also, I do wonder why people forget the firebombing which went on throughout the war which killed more people than the atomic bombs.
Kyle wrote:But you don't have to have atomic weapons to kill a lot of people.
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Go ahead, Jason, roll your eyes.
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Chris12 wrote:I wasn't really arguing with the morality of the atomic bombing. Its just that America doesn't really have a right to hold a grudge when they already paid pearl harbour back tenfold.
Chris12 wrote:I thought pearl harbour was still a sore spot.
drawscore wrote:I have been to Pearl Harbor, and the Arizona Memorial. I have also seen buildings still standing at Hickam AFB, adjacent to Pearl Harbor Naval Station, that still have bullet holes from the strafing by the Japanese attack force. It was a powerful and moving experience, and I recommend it to all.
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drawscore wrote:Did I say that? I said I had been to Pearl Harbor and Hickam AFB, and seen the USS Arizona memorial, and buildings that still had bullet holes, 72 years after the fact. Do you have to read something in to my posts all the time?
BTW, as a military brat, I lived in Japan for 2 1/2 years, and in Hawaii for two.
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drawscore wrote:It is said that "Time heals all wounds." Since I was not alive at the time of the Pearl Harbor attack, I probably do not have the feelings that a Pearl Harbor survivor might have.
I was very young when I lived in Japan, and had no animus toward the Japanese people. So, no, I do not hold a grudge. It's over. The Japanese are our political allies. We have full diplomatic relations, and significant trade between the US and Japan. The war ended 68 years ago. No reason to hold a grudge.
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Mister Mistoffelees wrote:...but Chris, I see you list your residence as the Netherlands. Check out what the Japanese did to your countrymen in the Dutch East Indies (today Indonesia), particularly to civilians, if you want to get the measure of what that military was back in those days. Entire civilian populations were murdered (actually tortured to death in many cases) in places like Balikpapan and Tjepu, and their troops seemed to enjoy their work...
Mister Mistoffelees wrote:...but Chris, I see you list your residence as the Netherlands. Check out what the Japanese did to your countrymen in the Dutch East Indies (today Indonesia), particularly to civilians, if you want to get the measure of what that military was back in those days. Entire civilian populations were murdered (actually tortured to death in many cases) in places like Balikpapan and Tjepu, and their troops seemed to enjoy their work...
Mister Mistoffelees wrote:Pearl has been supplanted as our national source of hatred by 9/11; where once upon a time it was possible to convince Americans that Japanese were capable of any evil (my grandmother had her hat strapped on tight, for example), now they've been supplanted as Eeeevil Geeniuses(tm) by Muslims...
Once they've been struck down (as eventually they will be), it'll be someone else - Chinese commie-capitalists or Tea Party uber-captialists; perhaps.