What I hate about the internet

Postby Spreadeagle » Wed May 30, 2012 3:33 am

ok, this is what I hate. Imagine if you started a onversation with someone in the steet, you're all polite and curtious and then, for no reason what so ever the person you try and talk to starts being rude and aggresive, again for no reason what would you do? Me personaly depending o the situation id probably punch them for being rude and not treating me wiith any respect.

now imagine the same situation but on the internet. If someone is rude to another online, what can the aggreived do? Fuck all, would this person act the same if they were face-to-face, i think not. So people act differently, dont even care if they're upseting the person who is only trying to be nice. I hate how people can hide behind their computers and think that they can upsetpeople without anything happening to them.

Well let me tell all of you who are like this that karma is a bitch and will come for you, what comes around goes around.Maybe (doubtful) people will realise that behind their keyboard are real people, with real hearts, and real feellings that can be hurt.
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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby Jay Candice » Wed May 30, 2012 7:12 pm

I feel the same way a lot. Sometimes I'm doing something, and people just pretty much cuss their hearts out at me. But the good thing is since your on the computer you can just exit whatever your doing.
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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby sarobah » Wed May 30, 2012 10:21 pm

Jay Candice wrote:But the good thing is since your on the computer you can just exit whatever your doing.

Quite right. Anonymity is a two-way street, or a double-edged sword, or something.
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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby Jason Toddman » Thu May 31, 2012 5:54 pm

Sometimes though a person can be offensive quite without meaning to be anything of the kind. Having Asperger's Syndrome and consequent poor social skills, I sometimes find myself saying things to people that they take in a manner quite different from what I intended. Sometimes the other person will understand and accept this, and sometimes they don't. It gets really painful to me personally sometimes when I say something that sets a person of when I don't intend to.
Not to say that I'm not occasionally a jerk on purpose, though... but I try to keep things reasonably civil even then.
Of course, when two jerks get together here, sparks can really fly. Sometimes it's funny; but usually it's not... and sadly I must take some blame for this myself.
But at least I can honestly say I've never deliberately aggravated anyone who (IMO anyway) wasn't being a jerk first.
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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby SamanthaBoundx » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:44 am

I really agree with this - I find it disgusting that people are willing to get hardcore with their keyboard when they would never put a toe out of line in real life. It's pathetic and it's utterly cowardly.

When there's a lack of consequences, people just seem to lose their moral compass entirely. It isn't just cyber-aggression either - I've been messaged by several guys online with inappropriately intimate things that totally overstep the mark of what's acceptable (and I'm sure a lot of the women on this forum have also experience it and can appreciate how disgusting that is!).

I think people just have a handy habit of forgetting that they're talking to a real person when they're online. . .

Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby Jason Toddman » Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:32 am

SamanthaBoundx wrote: I think people just have a handy habit of forgetting that they're talking to a real person when they're online.

To a lesser extent I think this has been true ever since the invention of the telephone. A least, in my own experience people are ruder on the phone than they are in person - especially to people they don't think they'll actually meet.
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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby SamanthaBoundx » Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:59 am

Jason Toddman wrote:To a lesser extent I think this has been true ever since the invention of the telephone. A least, in my own experience people are ruder on the phone than they are in person - especially to people they don't think they'll actually meet.


Definitely! I'm so shocked by how rude people are to those poor telesales workers. I mean, I know they're annoying - but there's never any need to swear blindly down the phone at them. . .

Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby Spreadeagle » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:25 am

I used to work in telesales, and the abuse I got was unbelievable! I understood their frustrations of course, but the some of the things they were saying was horrible! Still, I got my own back on them... lol
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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby KittyReaper » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:29 am

SamanthaBoundx wrote:I've been messaged by several guys online with inappropriately intimate things that totally overstep the mark of what's acceptable (and I'm sure a lot of the women on this forum have also experience it and can appreciate how disgusting that is!).


Oh isn't this the utterly unacceptable truth. It really is disgusting.

Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby Tieup1 » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:25 am

^^Unfortunately some people will always abuse the internet, they seem to get their kicks out of saying something really obnoxious and rude to people, females in particular. They do it because they are small minded, ignorant ***holes. I rest my case , lol

Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby randomentity » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:08 am

SamanthaBoundx wrote:
Jason Toddman wrote:To a lesser extent I think this has been true ever since the invention of the telephone. A least, in my own experience people are ruder on the phone than they are in person - especially to people they don't think they'll actually meet.


Definitely! I'm so shocked by how rude people are to those poor telesales workers. I mean, I know they're annoying - but there's never any need to swear blindly down the phone at them. . .


Samantha, Telemarketing is definitely one area I can speak on personally also.. I worked in it for a while as a last resort pretty much. I heard more cursing in 1 day in that job than I'd normally hear in the better part of a year probably! It was disgusting how we were treated, just for doing our jobs. We weren't even allowed to hang up on people who verbally abused us, we just had to keep going until they were done cursing us or hung up on us, while the whole time we had to apologise to them for their grievance when it was something we both knew absolutely nothing about, and could do absolutely nothing about! We could only hang up if they directly threatened our lives. It was ridiculous! I knew my calling was annoying people, I've been on the receiving end many times, but when I am, I'm kind and just tell them that I'm not interested or don't have time in a nice way, and either let them go or hang up (If their rules are the same as mine were, they wouldn't be allowed to hang up on me, so I'd have to.)

I am with the posters on this thread wholeheartedly, people really do need to learn manners, general courtesy, and just a very simple lesson every human should know and fully understand in how to be kind to your fellow man/woman.

Now, let's not be hypocrites either, any of us, I know there have been times I haven't been as friendly as I could've been.. but hey, we all make mistakes. So let's just try and keep things nice, those of us who obviously know to, and hopefully we can encourage by example! :)

Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby skybird137 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:06 am

Telesales people harangued my 74 year old mother to try and get her to buy anti-virus software for her computer, and continued even though she said she didn't have one, which she doesn't.

Telesales people conned a friend of mine into visiting a site, which had a supposed virus-checker. It claimed that there were viruses on his machine and he would now need to buy the software to remove it. After he contacted me I got him a few programs to check his machine, because these sites will put Trojans on your system.

I've had people ring up trying the same trick on me, trying to con me as well.

Now, guess how much sympathy I have for Telesales people. I won't be rude to them, but I can't blame anyone else for such actions.
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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby SamanthaBoundx » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:04 am

skybird137 wrote:Telesales people harangued my 74 year old mother to try and get her to buy anti-virus software for her computer, and continued even though she said she didn't have one, which she doesn't.

Telesales people conned a friend of mine into visiting a site, which had a supposed virus-checker. It claimed that there were viruses on his machine and he would now need to buy the software to remove it. After he contacted me I got him a few programs to check his machine, because these sites will put Trojans on your system.

I've had people ring up trying the same trick on me, trying to con me as well.

Now, guess how much sympathy I have for Telesales people. I won't be rude to them, but I can't blame anyone else for such actions.


I can understand not appreciating being approached by telesales advertisers - but I think the way in which people speak to them is horrendous. Yes, they can be a little irritating. But if someone were to irritate you face to face, would you think it appropriate to blow up at them, curse at them and degrade them entirely for it? It may be irritating to recieve telesales phone calls, but at the end of the day, they are only doing the job that they are being paid to do. There is never any need to be rude to people - it doesn't cost you anything to simply say, "Sorry, I'm not interested" and hang up the phone.

Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby skybird137 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:11 am

The problem is that when a telesales person makes that call, that they do not know what the person on the other end has gone through that day.

I will honestly admit that had I received a telesales call on certain days of my life, I would have reacted just as badly as some of these other people.

If I had received a telesales call on a certain Monday in August in 2001, I would have been as bad as the worst of them.
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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby randomentity » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:17 am

Trust me, I do understand what you're saying skybird, but at the end of the day.. do you believe that telemarketers are exempt from normal life, and thus bad days also? They have to sit there, doing a job that about 99% if not 100% of them utterly despise and would give so much to get out of, being polite to people who are going out of their way to make them feel even worse, and having to apologise to people for disturbing them, when they want to be calling those people probably even less than the people wanna receive the calls. On both counts I speak from personal experience.

As for the ones that try to con you.. those are not legal telemarketers, those are con-artists. I'm glad I'm not thin skinned enough therefore to be offended by the "tarring them all with the one brush".

So yes, telemarketers are a pain in the rear, but at the end of the day, they're normal people, doing a job like normal people just because the alternative is to join the still-swelling mass ranks of the unemployed. The conclusion - They don't give anyone they call a bad day (if they did they'd probably be fired), and just sitting in one of those offices 8 or 9 hours a day, making hundreds of calls to people who just want to degrade and insult you is a very bad day, every day they work, all on it's own. I'm so so thankful I no longer work as one. So please think about that, and if you're tempted to blow up on them, just try and muster the self-restraint to simply say, as Samantha said previously, "Sorry, I'm not interested" and hang up the phone.

No one deserves to be treated as they are just for doing their job, and no self-respecting person should be immoral enough to feel that they have a right to treat another person like that, just for that same reason. As for the con-artists you mentioned.. well.. report them, and with good fortune they'll face the just and legal consequences of their illegal actions.

Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby Jason Toddman » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:50 pm

I worked for telemarketing agencies myself (ones that sold advertising to other businesses; not ones that call regular people at home) a good many years ago; but as a clerical worker rather than one of the ones on the phone. Tried working the phones myself to fill in for someone else one day. Omigod! Never again! That job is brutal!!! I just couldn't make a career out of talking to people on the phone! My God! I think I'd rather die!!! :worried: I was happy to just go back to being a faceless clerical worker, making the detailed call lists the regular telemarketers used.
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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby random » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:55 pm

Spreadeagle wrote:I used to work in telesales, and the abuse I got was unbelievable! I understood their frustrations of course, but the some of the things they were saying was horrible! Still, I got my own back on them... lol


There is a reason for that but it's not your fault. People HATE telemarketers so much that in Australia if you call someone who is on a telemarketer do not call me list, no matter where you live in the world you will be fined in the thousands by the Australian government. YES THEY ARE ABLE TO DO THIS! Why do we hate them? They pick the worst time to call us and they try to sell us junk. But you don't deserve to be abused, your only doing your job. Just keep in mind how they are feeling when you call.
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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby Rope_guy » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:59 pm

What I hate about the Internet right now is all the malware that's out there to destroy your computer. Although I have a firewall that I keep up to date, a virus managed to sneak through it and resided on my computer for several months undetected by my anti-virus screens until last Sunday when it went on a rampage on my computer's operating system (I have Windows XP), screwing a number of system files and making my operating system, well, inoperable. My computer would spend the next four days in the shop (one of them was U.S. Independence Day, which the shop was closed) with the techs trying to find the virus to get rid of it and then having the operating system reinstalled because the virus screwed it up so much. I have to now reinstall all of my programs, some of them which were downloaded. Fortunately I backed up some data and have My Documents on an external drive.

Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby Jason Toddman » Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:06 pm

Rope_guy wrote:What I hate about the Internet right now is all the malware that's out there to destroy your computer. .

Yes, something similar happened to me this last winter. Completely ruined my own Windows 7 OS, and I had to delete it to replace it with Linux. Linux is not prone to viruses but I find Windows is still necessary to run some programs; but rather than reinstall it on the same laptop I got a newer more powerful one (partly so I could play Skyrim, which my older computer couldn't have done anyway). But I never use Internet Explorer on it; rather I use Firefox and Linux whenever I am online - better than any antivirus program (many of which - epecially Norton - slow the computer way too much to be worthwhile).
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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby HITPOOANDRUN » Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:25 pm

It's because of usernames, isn't it?

I always try to be polite to everyone. Regardless of if it's online or not. It's in my nature. :) Because making people sad isn't cool. :(
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Re: What I hate about the internet

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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby fabolous1024 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:32 am

All I gotta say is that I find it funny for someone to complain about civility and having feelings hurt over the internet yet state at the beginning that they would probably physically attack someone being rude/aggressive to them in real life.

Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby Spreadeagle » Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:23 pm

Pal, if someone was rude to me like that then yea, id prob smack 'em, let them learn some respect. I would expect the same if i spoke to someone in a rude or degreadingway
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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby Spreadeagle » Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:10 am

So their all young cowards
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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby TUfriend » Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:55 am

I can't tell you how many times I've been playing a game, and over the mic some kid you get than I am, calls someone a f****t. And what's sad is that most of them don't even realize a) what it means, b) the trouble it has caused, or c) there's one on the serve who can hear everything you say. I try to correct them, but it doesn't always work.
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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby burner59 » Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:37 am

Spreadeagle wrote:ok, this is what I hate. Imagine if you started a onversation with someone in the steet, you're all polite and curtious and then, for no reason what so ever the person you try and talk to starts being rude and aggresive, again for no reason what would you do? Me personaly depending o the situation id probably punch them for being rude and not treating me wiith any respect.

now imagine the same situation but on the internet. If someone is rude to another online, what can the aggreived do? Fuck all, would this person act the same if they were face-to-face, i think not. So people act differently, dont even care if they're upseting the person who is only trying to be nice. I hate how people can hide behind their computers and think that they can upsetpeople without anything happening to them.

Well let me tell all of you who are like this that karma is a bitch and will come for you, what comes around goes around.Maybe (doubtful) people will realise that behind their keyboard are real people, with real hearts, and real feellings that can be hurt.


I remember when I was playing a computer game at age fifteen and I had just started playing and was really bad, but I saw some guy who I had heard about who was the best player at the game but was a rich snob kid who was only twelve bullying a ten year old kid. I went over to him and got him off of him and onto me, because I was pissed off by him, so eventually, he challenged me to a battle-and there was nothing that I could do, so I just left and reported him, but in video games, as we all know, reporting does absolutely nothing.

But seriously, I wanted to punch that guy to Hong Kong, the bully.

Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby drawscore » Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:42 pm

I am rude, crude, lewd, and socially unacceptable. And I'm proud of it.

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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby Jason Toddman » Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:40 am

drawscore wrote:I am rude, crude, lewd, and socially unacceptable. And I'm proud of it.

Drawscore

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Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby Chris12 » Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:45 am

Bad Jason! :spank; bad! :spank;

Re: What I hate about the internet

Postby drawscore » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:09 pm

I never said I believed EVERYTHING I hear on Fox News. But I don't believe ANYTHING I hear on BSNBC or CrackpoTV.

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