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Hey all, noob here. I entered the IRC for the first time yesterday. Today I've been trying to get back in, joining the #janiteam channel. I've already registered my nick, but today when I enter /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>, it will either say, "Incorrect password" or "Nick not registered." I try to register again, but it says, "Email already has 1 registration." I'm stuck and I would appreciate some help.
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I used Hexchat. Now it will register me as Guest01256 if I register newly. I don't know why it isn't cooperating, it worked fine yesterday.
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Now it says I've exceeded the number of connections for my IP. I'm frustrated because I know I'm doing it right, it's just being silly.
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>>2239
You could always try just using the Rizon web IRC. It's really simple.
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I have since resolved it. The web IRC is super simplistic. Look forward getting to know all of you:)
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New Janitor here, make sure that you have OpenSSL running. I had that same problem earlier, but restarting OpenSSL and HexChat fixed it. Hopefully that will fix it for you too.

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Enable ID's on all boards but have them hidden and let janitors/moderators see them. Possible? Would just make the job a little easier.

Also would be cool if a janitor/mod could then reveal certain posts IDs.
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>>2247

Speaking from /vg/ there's a shit posting "culture" of people replying to themselves as other people. It would really help undermine that if their ids could be revealed.

I just don't like the idea of having to run to a mod all the time, especially considering that can be spotty.

Also users currently have meltdowns on /q/ constantly anyway. I can't see it honestly being different. I'm not seeing the cause of the meltdown if the ids are hidden.

>>2248

Talking about hidden IDs.
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IDs aren't something that team 4chins was comfortable sharing with janitors as of a few months ago, and there really isn't any point in doing so.

We don't really need to know whether or not someone is samefagging, because we don't dish out the bans. We're not making a decision to wipe out all content of that user's particular session versus single deletion.
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Not something we'll ever give janitors access to.
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>>2318
Hey moot, how come your ID is 2 and not 1?
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>>2319
he is 2cool

Janitoring and modding appear to be entirely about removing, blocking, punishing shitposts on 4chan. Unsurprisingly there's a bit of burnout from time to time considering what's in our queues (janitors' and mods').

What 4chan doesn't do is reward really good posts. In part, this is because prior to captcha, there really wasn't a way to incentivize or reward positive behavior.

The reward is simple: a day without captchas. It's small enough not to dilute the value of gold passes.

The quality post reports appear in our queues along with the other ones. Perhaps the quality posts would be restricted to one per board per day the way the other posts are restricted to one per five minutes (and be denied to your own posts).

The post is not decorated, moved to the top, or anything like that but the poster is momentarily redirected to a page that says "Good job, here's your captcha vacation, enjoy it--but mentioning it or posting screencaps of this violates Global 8 and will result in having it pulled." That's it. No reddit upboat circle jerking, anonymous culture kept anonymous.

It uses the existing infrastructure both technologically and culturally and reminds people that the management isn't merely indifferent to non-shitposts, it wants good ones.

Just to keep things fair, janitors are expected to limit their own nominations the same way we're expected to keep BRs limited (when deletions would serve the same purpose).

I also suggest (regretfully) that this system be exclusive to blue boards unless the janitors of NWS boards feel confident places like /hc/, /b/ and /r9k/ are viable for this kind of reward system.

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I'm not saying this is a terrible idea, I think that people sometimes do need some motivation to post well, but all I can see this doing is creating circlejerks where people go "hey can you exemplify my post and I'll exemplify yours". Not necessarily on 4chan, over Skype or some sort of IM service. It would be far too easy to abuse.
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There's also the practical problem of how to notify people that their post has been awarded. You can't do it immediately afterwards, i.e. at the Post Successful screen, because there wouldn't be any time to judge it. 4chan doesn't have any realtime pop-ups or anything like that, so you'd have to wait for the user to do something else (like submit another post) before you could show the award. And what if they don't post anything else that day?

I think our philosophy here is non-interventionism; that good posts will be recognized as such by the community without our needing to award them. If people want to explicitly assign upvotes and downvotes, they should go to reddit. We're just here to clean up the blatant trolling and shitposting that inhibits quality conversations.
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>>2155
This. If this were available to normal users the potential for abuse would be enormous. However, if janitors/mods were to have a function like this it might be cool. There definitely needs to be some kind of positive reinforcement for good posting considering the state of some boards.

Something like this, with the added bonus of a dynamically increased bump limit on a thread that is clearly a five star fucking post would be awesome. Not really technically feasible, but awesome nonetheless.

This also has the potential to generate some j00tgold. Seeing the benefits of a reCAPTCHA-free environment, some (exemplary) posters would possibly be inclined to purchase a pass.
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>>2156
Modified warn screen? Create a template for a day pass or something, redirect once on refresh and then never show it again.

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While looking at /q/ earlier today I saw this thread https://boards.4chan.org/q/res/428500 which reminded me of other threads I've seen on /q/ regarding our moderation work, and most of the complaints I've seen either occurred on or provided evidence of them being punished for some offense during the week and then seeing somebody get off with some rulebreaking crap during the weekend, namely Friday.

This is a good sign - going off of the Price Equation, cheaters that have been punished will hop to the chance to punish other cheaters to ensure everyone plays by the same rules. However, loopholes in the system can upset this, the largest one being Friday. Before I became a Janitor I would usually avoid browsing /v/ on a Friday because of the shit usually posted there, and these days I don't feel much better taking a second to look at it being playing something else with a group of friends and seeing a solid report queue of 150-250.

Simply put, one of the busiest days of the week for /v/ is also one of the most unmoderated. Our moderation is only as strong as our weakest point, and I do not feel comfortable knowing Fridays early in the night are /v/'s most vulnerable hours.
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For these reasons, we need to establish a schedule for Friday, if nothing else than to determine the largest gaps in moderation during reasonable hours.

So I’ve whipped up this quick MSpaint graph to detail the issue. Simply pick a color (try something different from what other people have chosen) and fill in the blocks for which timeframes you can janitor /v/ for at least 30 minutes or more total. Everything adds up in small amounts, and by next Thursday I will compile this data and we’ll see where our blindspots are, and see which can be dealt with.
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Here is my stuff as an example of what I’m looking for.

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EasyCheck is a Chrome extension which allows you to click a checkbox, drag downward and autoselect all the checkboxes you drag through. It also allows you to CMD/Shift-click/unclick individuals in a selection.

Unfortunately it won't work on https sites due to a tiny mistake which the developer's being alerted to.

In the meantime, you can install and fix it yourself.
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Get the EasyCheck Chrome extension here:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/easy-check/ldopaogbegnhconlboidfjcmidndkbeg?hl=en

Install it and then find the location it's installed in on your computer by going to chrome://version in your browser and look for Profile Path on the page.
examples:
/Users/bobthejanitor/Library/Application Support/Google/Chrome/Default
C:\Users\bobjan\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default
~/.config/google-chrome/Default/Extensions

Navigate to this location on your computer and copy the "ldopaogbegnhconlboidfjcmidndkbeg" folder to your documents folder. Rename it EasyCheckFix.

Open the EasyCheckFix folder, open 1.5_0 folder inside and delete manifest.json. We're going to replace it with a fixed version.

Open this URL http://pastebin.com/K7eN5Xvz , click Download and save it as manifest.json to the 1.5_0 folder.


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EasyCheck also lets you click the checkbox of the first post in a section of shitposts, scroll down to the last one, SHIFT-click the last one and it will automagically select all between. I should have mentioned this first.

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As a janitor of /vg/, it has since become a stable board, with it's own community, etc etc.

However, the rampant SHITPOSTING has become something that is completely out of my hands.

I know we all have shitposters on our respective boards, however, sc2 is by far the worst I have ever seen.
Sure, porn is posted in other generals, off-topic can sometimes get completely out of hand, but spam, image flooding, and "raiding" other generals has become a meta in these threads.

When this board first started, it was easily detained by deleting posts. But for months now it has become a avalanche of a problem. They never used to spam this much, invade this much, or have thread wars this bad. It is a group of them that do nothing but shitpost and post the same kpop, posts and LOL I JUST LITERALLY PEED MY PANTS spam over and over.

If I try to delete this off-topic garbage, they repost. Then it cycles until they just say fuck it. This is when I say fuck it and delete threads. Then they invade.

I have no idea what to do about this anymore.
If I let it burn, I get backlash from the community that actually tries to talk about it.
If I try to do anything about it, it just backfires and I'm trying to deal with it even more.


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>>2106
I occasionally ban request it for off-topic or avatarfagging but ultimately it's only if I've got nothing else left to do because in the long run it changes precisely nothing, unless the thread was somehow under 25/8 moderation
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>>1837

I think this is the wrong mentality about SC2 threads. The shitposters there realize they can outlast any janitor who stays there.

As someone who frequents the threads I think it would probably just be a matter of sticking around to the point where people are never comfortable shit posting on that level.

It won't be immediate results.
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>>1837

I think this is the wrong mentality about SC2 threads. The shitposters there realize they can outlast any janitor who stays there.

As someone who frequents the threads I think it would probably just be a matter of sticking around to the point where people are never comfortable shit posting on that level.

It won't be immediate results.
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>>1837

I think this is the wrong mentality about SC2 threads. The shitposters there realize they can outlast any janitor who stays there.

As someone who frequents the threads I think it would probably just be a matter of sticking around to the point where people are never comfortable shit posting on that level.

It won't be immediate results.
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>>1837

I think this is the wrong mentality about SC2 threads. The shitposters there realize they can outlast any janitor who stays there.

As someone who frequents the threads I think it would probably just be a matter of sticking around to the point where people are never comfortable shit posting on that level.

It won't be immediate results.

Can we please filter http://freesteamwalletcodes.net , it's getting spammed on /v/.

http://archive.foolz.us/_/search/text/freesteamwalletcodes/

Would request it in the spambot filter thread but /j/ is ded again.

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This thread is for discussing current trends and problems with /v/, and also /v/ specific advice.
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Game Grump threads need to be culled sometimes so that there are only one or two of them at a time.

Usually the more active ones are to be left alone.

Also, some people intentionally make multiple/repost them after deletion, so it's another "one guy stirring shit" thing, much like the Neptunia threads.
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So yeah, pretty much confirmed that all the in-thread shitposting in the Neptunia, Yume Nikki and other various Jappo-vidya threads are all done by the same 2-3 people (varies.)

They'll accuse anyone calling them out as "OP" as well, or people simply ignoring them and posting normally as "samefag OP."

They watch out for these particular threads all the fucking time, as though they are home all fucking day or something. Because of the sheer dedication of two-three guys, /v/ is under the impression that their own board seems to hate anything japanese now. So they've pretty much successfully tricked a good chunk of the board.
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>>1887
Oh, and Call of Duty threads are getting hit with shitposting as well, but not by the same small group.

Just general /v/irgins who can't contain their autism.
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>>1887
Just happened to me earlier today, shitposters flooded the thread with dubs and complained about "moeshit" or janitors.

https://archive.foolz.us/v/thread/155752035.html
They want to move them to /vg/ or get them banned--- I'm quoting some Anon here who reposted his post several times after deletion:
>welp, this is well on its way to reaching bump limit.
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>By definition these threads are still recurring, and generals.
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>There is no need for the shitposter to keep spamming here instead of posting on /vg/.
This really gave me the last shot, they don't want to see Neptunia on /v/.

I left the thread alone, as under /v/ rule 6, occasional "/vg/ material" is allowed. Pretty sure the thread was going to 404 naturally at around 200 posts if it weren't for the spammers. 80% of the thread was floodspam by the same three people.
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Friendly reminder: Halo 4 and CoDBLOPS2 are still indeed vidya games. Don't give into the shitposters trying to derail them.

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I'm a new janitor. I've been told that moot has said things about what is allowed/disallowed on certain boards which aren't implied by the rules, as well as suggestions on how to deal with certain content. An example regarding NSFW images on SFW boards:

<moots> dont ban request for nsfw
<moots> just delete it
<moots> unless the person is spamming or evading

I don't know what any of those things are and can't find a thread where they're archived. It seems like that would be a useful resource for new janitors. Have I convinced you to post moot's wisdom in this thread?
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>>1775
that's precisely what we want you to do, it's why we're in #janiteam
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On, /p/ for example, the rules state you can only post photo's you've taken - but clearly we allow discussion about any photo

It's a SFW board, but we're generally cool with artistic nudes - everyone seems to get along
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>>1777
Alright. Regardless, it seems like those answers should be compiled somewhere. There's no need for questions to be asked and answered by and for each new janitor when they can all just be recorded.
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>>1766
I'm glad someone took notice of all of my MEME's.
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All the information that you wished someone had told you when you first joined, for the benefit of the poor souls that have recently signed up.
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"Ironic shitposting" is a new hip thing, it's used to mock users and the common pattern is usually pseudo-quoting with poor spelling, overuse of fancy emoticons and capslock. If you notice people posting that way, delete their posts immediately, it could derail entire threads.
A notable example would be the "WHATA FUCK MAN xD"-copypasta.

Even though "ironic shitposting" has become very popular lately, there are still a few users who legitimately use emoticons such as "xD" or ":D". These posts should not be deleted, as they are not breaking any rule. Yet there are some users who might redirect them to other communities, like Reddit or Gaia. They usually point out that the user used an emoticon and some would even start to derail threads. If that happens, try to delete every irrelevant off-topic post. If there is really no hope, delete the post that originally had the emoticon to prevent future shitstorms.
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>>1731
This is because, no matter what board you janitor, if a post gets at least 3 illegal reports it will show up to ALL janitors.
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The escalate button is not a good way to attract mod attention and shouldn't be used at all.
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Anons routinely report OP as a way of informing you the thread's gone cancerous (rather than reporting the offending posts themselves), so if an OP looks like you'd just hit Clear, check out the most recent posts ITT.

Commonly reposted shock images like babyshit.gif are intentionally regenerated with unique MD5 sums each time they're posted so that they can't be detected automatically by the board.
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If you are dealing with someone who continuously re-creates a rule breaking thread sometimes the best course of action is to ask a mod to put that thread on permasage. The shitposter will sage his thread right off the board and when they look at the archive it won't show as a deletion so they can't bitch at you.

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A word of advice from one of the "older" janitors- there are some posts you don't touch, and here's an example.

Posts whining about YOU. Yeah, it sucks...but guess what? A post whining about the "nazi janitors" that doesn't magically disappear is a blessing. It sticks out like a sore thumb saying "SUP, I HAVEN'T BEEN DELETED, LOOKIT ME!", and if it was a tripcode user- makes them look like a whining idiot.

This might be a nice place to talk about what you've learned janitoring your respective boards. Just keep in mind, a lot of boards are very different, so qualify your comments well, and when reading what fellow janitors say, it may be very contextual. As foone and I were talking about on IRC just now, /r and /o are janitored in VERY different ways :-)

Cheers, all. PS:Try to find a "whining" related image for your post for all of us to use (posting anonymously of course :-) in response to idiots whining about us.
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I learned that if I am not destroying the thread entirely on /c/, it is helpful to explain what the user did wrong in an anonymous, ambiguous way (so that they don't think it is the janitor posting). A simple phrase like "males aren't allowed here." educates everybody but does not risk blowing my cover. It just makes me sound like some guy who knows the rules. I think it works. Most people on /c/ know what they are doing and there are not very many repeat offenders from what I can tell.
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Most of the drama on /cgl/ is from the users, not from janitors removing threads and pictures. Judging from the amount of troll posting on /cgl/ I doubt anyone will miss any thread...unless it's yet another Adella one.
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Here's a friendly protip on the subject, despite the fact that no one has posted in this thread for a few days now.

Users complain when you delete threads. Users complain when you don't delete threads. The fact that they don't see "User was banned for this post" very often signifies to them that no one's doing their job. When they do see it, they'll bitch about how such and such wasn't fair for whatever bullshit reason, and then the banned party will come back to taunt, probably with something like "lol proxies".

Is there any good way to work around this? No, not really. Should you give a shit? No, not at all. If someone wants to bitch about the job you're doing, feel free to delete any offensive images and leave the posts. The other users will descend upon the whiners like vultures upon a fresh, possibly barely living carcass. As long as you take care of the rules part, you can leave the wolves to the wolves, and in some cases play them off each other in entertaining new ways.

Just live by the motto: "Let's 4chan!"
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Keeping a good sense of humor seems to help a lot, in my experience. If I see people bitching about something I've done, as long as I know I haven't made a horrible mistake, I usually laugh about it. (though maybe that's the asshole in me coming out, too, I don't know)

In any case, taking things too seriously seems to be a downfall here. If you find yourself starting to get really serious about everything, it might be good to take a short break until you relax a bit.
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Right now, /co/ is having growing pains getting used to having misogyny moderated. As far as they can tell I'm 24, female, and live for social justice issues.

As someone who's been on /co/ more or less since it started, the big issues are cleaning up the previous year's invasion of /v/ culture which has taken one of the previously more tolerant boards and turned it into FEMINISTS AND FAGGOTS MAKE ME SO MAD, WHY DO I HAVE TO SEE A NIGGER SPIDER-MAN, etc.

Of course this isn't helped by a number of vocal shitheads claiming to represent women, people of color, transfolk, the queer community, etc., all of whom are about as rational as PETA -- and the comics industry is schizophrenic about female/minority/nonstraight characters, frequently veering between exploitation and a few legitimately well written characters within those groups.

I came onboard because Moot agreed that hate had gotten out of control on /co/. /co/ has a larger female population than most of its users realize, and it was most obvious before /mlp/ was split off.

I periodically remind people that blue boards are supposed to be worksafe when people grouse about pics disappearing. As far as off-topic is concerned, I leave drawthreads alone (and they are routinely reported) because /co/ has already lost enough talent to tumblr as it is.

Homestuck Generals are a clusterfuck. The threads demonstrate a culture which is separate enough from /co/ to warrant its own board (and not a blue one), so the most I do is prune porn and attack spam (ponies currently).

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As it says in the title. To be used to discuss recent developments in /a/, list obnoxious name/tripfags who have sanctions against them, and create organized and consistent policy.

Pic related: knowing is half the battle.
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>>1809
>Stern Ritter !!1Xd+5QGsu0w
Became this today,
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Some have suggested that this trip:
>Bambietta !!R+kWVKSfGp3
Is possibly park ranger.
Hard for me to tell yet between using the archive (it's clearly a brand new trip) and seeing anon reactions.
But it did make an off topic game thread about counter strike.
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"If you had a girlfriend, you wouldn't have a waifu.

Discuss."

Please filter this. Please.
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Making a note here that currently /a/ is doing pretty fine. Shitposting is usually ignored by the majority of the users and also reported and off-topic threads barely get any attention. Although it's important to remember that a few people are trying to ruin Chuuni's and JoJo's fanbase (the former having much more success) as hard as they can, by reverse-trolling (making it seem like it's idiots that like the anime), making low-quality posts, etc. The drawfag threads are still experiencing problems with mock and reposted requests, they could use some help. But in general, we have improved over the last accidents that seemed to hit us pretty hard. After going through the archive of /q/, feedback seems to be generally positive, thankfully. Keep up the good work, and stay alert mainly for the chuuni reverse-trolling.
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I don't know if the last thread got deleted or not, but I'll be bumping this one since I haven't found it anywhere. It seems that "Free!", the new Kyoto Animation anime created a lot of discussion and controversy on /a/, because of reasons that I expect that you all are aware of. It will be one of the most trolled anime of the whole year, most likely, and I've seen people planning to give it "Naruto treatment", to make sure no discusison about it happens.

Unfortunately, I haven't been really available nowadays, but I'll try to help with making sure those threads stay clean. I hope you all make sure that people will be able to discuss this anime without having their fun ruined by some people that either want to watch the world burn, or are just hateful towards the fans of the show.

Let's use this thread for all the "I'mma go on a vacation! Watch /foo/ for me" posts, k?
They're usually short enough that there's no point in a whole thread for them.

Anyway, I'll be gone for all of the 18th and most of the 19th. Wiiday!
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I'm going to a wedding in New Mexico and I'll be there all week. I dunno how frequently I'll be able to janitor, so please pay closer attention to /jp/ and /mu/ especially, but also /c/. Thanks!
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I'll be moving house over the weekend, so I'll likely be offline for the next few days. Please keep an eye on /i/ and /ic/ for me. :)
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I'm heading to an ultimate frisbee tournament at Wildwood, NJ this weekend (Friday to Sunday). I probably won't have time to check my boards then.

Check up on /c/, /p/ and /trv/ for me.
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will be at katsucon all weekend
if hotel has wifi & I find the janitor extension link, may perhaps get a bit of janitorization done anyway.
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Just making a note to say that I'll be mostly gone for the rest of December.

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Happy New Year /j/

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I've noticed that when evaluating reports made on /sci/, there is no option given for 'request ban,' 'delete post' (file only), or 'escalate post.' There is only the 'clear' option. I have been requesting a ban or deleting appropriate posts since I have the thread inline on the same page. But it would be good to have this issue resolved.
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Should be fixed.


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