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Post by Maxus » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:48 am

Yeah...Still, not as bad as a story I saw the other day.
The one where albinos in Africa are in hiding/under protection because apparently some of them have been murdered for their body parts which are claimed to have magical properties.
http://www.sphere.com/2009/11/23/deadly ... n-albinos/
That almost gave me a Rorschach moment (the Watchmen character.)
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He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
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Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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Post by shadzar » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:52 pm

34,000 troops more to go to Afghanistan war effort
Play the game, not the rules.

> Swordslinger wrote:Or fuck it... I'm just going to get weapon specialization in my cock and whip people to death with it. Given all the enemies are total pussies, it seems like the appropriate thing to do.

> Lewis Black wrote:If the people of New Zealand want to be part of our world, I believe they should hop off their islands, and push 'em closer.

good read (Note to self Maxus sucks a barrel of cocks.)
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Post by Kobajagrande » Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:23 pm

What's so surprising? Year or two ago, Gordon Brown went to visit his troops in Iraq, and told them they'll be comming home for christmas. Then he went to his troops in Afghanistan, and told them they'll be staying there forever. There have been public statements that US will reduce Iraq presence but intensify Afghan presence even in the presidential race.
Shock? Suprise? Why?
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Post by Username17 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:40 pm

I do think that the Albino-eating thing is probably the single worst thing that happens today. Not over-all, since by sheer numbers there are a lot more child slaves in Pakistan being worked to death. But on a kill-by-kill basis, murdering an albino so that someone can grind his penis up and put into a "magic" potion is the most fucked up.
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Post by A Hammer » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:59 am

> FrankTrollman wrote: Facilitated Communication

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_a ... 930608.ece
So apparently the victim is going to "write" a book now, with the helpful (and well-paid, no doubt) assistance of the communicator? This is honestly pretty distressing.
'Of all the things that shouldn’t be written on any concept drawing ever, “wall of crates” and “crates should all be the same” ranks right up there.'
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Post by Data Vampire » Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:54 am

> A Hammer wrote:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_a ... 930608.ece

All I got from that link is a 404 Error page.
maybe it wil be back later.
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Post by erik » Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:05 am

Text for you. Sounds like some B.S. to me. Pretty sad story.

> Linda Wouters did not believe in miracles until she held Rom Houben’s twisted hand. Doctors had long insisted that the car crash victim had slipped into a deep coma but his therapist knew otherwise.
> At the care centre, 50 miles (80km) east of Brussels, where Mr Houben, 46, lives, Mrs Wouters spoke yesterday of his long journey back to the living and the controversial technique that enables him to communicate.
> After spending 23 years “locked in” — conscious but paralysed and unable to communicate — Mr Houben is now seemingly able to express himself in remarkably lucid messages while Mrs Wouters guides his hand over a computer screen.
> Some experts wonder, however, whether it is really him who is tapping out the words.
> “He says, ‘I am blessed’,” Mrs Wouters told The Times. “It is difficult to imagine it. I know he feels it and I know what he means when he says it but it is still difficult to imagine it.”
> Mr Houben’s “rebirth” took many painstaking months. “We asked him to try and blink but he couldn’t; we asked him to move his cheek but he couldn’t; we asked him to move his hand and he couldn’t,” Mrs Wouters said.
> “Eventually, someone noticed that when we talked to him he moved his toe so we started to try and communicate using his toe to press a button.”
> It was a breakthrough but much more was to come when a fellow speech therapist discovered that it was possible to discern minuscule movements in his right forefinger.
> Mrs Wouters, 42, was assigned to Mr Houben and they began to learn the communication technique that he is now using to write a book about his life and thoughts. “I thought it was a miracle — it actually worked,” she said.
> The method involves taking Mr Houben by the elbow and the right hand while he is seated at a specially adapted computer and feeling for minute twitches in his forefinger as his hand is guided over the letters of the alphabet. Mrs Wouters said that she could feel him recoil slightly if the letter was wrong. After three years of practice the words now come tumbling out, she said.
> The novel method of communication has not convinced all medical experts, however. “It’s Ouija board stuff. It’s been discredited time and again when people look at it. It’s usually the person who is doing the pointing who is doing the messages,” Arthur Caplan, Professor of Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania, said after watching a video of the pair.
> The spectacle is so incredible that even Steven Laureys, the neurologist who discovered Mr Houben’s potential, had doubts about its authenticity. He decided to put it to the test.
> “I showed him objects when I was alone with him in the room and then, later, with his aide, he was able to give the right answers,” Professor Laureys said. “It is true.”
> Mrs Wouters said that Mr Houben could indicate on his screen whether he wanted to write a text message or listen to the radio. (He is not keen on television.) “When he moves, you can hardly see it but I can feel it,” she said.
> “The tension increases and I feel he wants to go so I move his hand along the screen and if it is a mistake he pulls back. As a facilitator, you have to be very careful that you do not take over. You have to follow him.”
> Mr Houben’s first written work was published in the care centre magazine. In it he described his incredible reawakening. “Someone had thrown away the key forever,” he wrote. “In the eyes of the world I was a sporty young man who had suddenly become a vegetable. I was lying there but was I really there? Well, I was there day in, day out. I heard, I saw, I felt, but only deep inside, hidden from everyone, but not from myself.
> “Now I can communicate and talk via facilitated communication. Not everyone believes in this form of communication. It is a controversial method but, for me, it is vital to life. At last, my views can be heard and my feelings expressed.”
> Mrs Wouters said that she felt guilty when she went on holiday because she knew that Mr Houben would not be able to communicate in the same way without her.
> “What I want to be most is a tool, but I feel like a friend,” she said. “I want to do for him what a friend would do. It is difficult sometimes because I have to leave Rom here. I don’t take him home with me.”
> The sudden media attention has been exhausting but exciting. Mr Houben said: “Normally everything goes along like a snail but now I feel like I am sitting in a Porsche — not comfortable but very happy.”
> Mrs Wouters said: “He says, ‘I have a rich life at this moment’. He wants to tell his story but he needs time to tell it. People react and say he is very courageous but he says, ‘I am just living my life and telling how it feels to me. What is courageous about that?’.”

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Post by cthulhu » Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:29 am

Needs double blinding testing. It wouldn't even be hard. Blindfold the woman, or get a third party to show the man the numbers 1 to 10 on flash cards in order, then tell him to tell those numbers in order to the woman - without telling the woman what you want, then get someone else to get the results back.
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Post by shadzar » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:33 pm

Big Brother will always be watching, but not when party crashers sneak into a state dinner at the White House.
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Play the game, not the rules.

> Swordslinger wrote:Or fuck it... I'm just going to get weapon specialization in my cock and whip people to death with it. Given all the enemies are total pussies, it seems like the appropriate thing to do.

> Lewis Black wrote:If the people of New Zealand want to be part of our world, I believe they should hop off their islands, and push 'em closer.

good read (Note to self Maxus sucks a barrel of cocks.)
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Post by Crissa » Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:35 am

Well, they did the hidden-from-helper test at least once.
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Post by Data Vampire » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:05 am

White House Security Fail
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Post by Maxus » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:25 pm

I had to cheer. The Republican party is trying to weed out the 'moderates'.
http://www.sphere.com/2009/11/25/do-you ... ?icid=main
Just, wow. I ought to start up a business selling red armbands with...I don't know. Elephants waving swastikas on them. Just to beat the rush and see if they'll notice.
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He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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Post by angelfromanotherpin » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:50 pm

Yeah, Reagan fails that test pretty hard. But doublethink is the name of their game.
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Post by erik » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:14 pm

I hope the GOP does not stop weeding out moderates until the kkk and pro life bombers are all that is left.
I was gonna leave that as a comment on the site but I am afraid of those nut jobs.
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Post by Username17 » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:24 pm

Some of those are so vague that I think I might pass a few. Depends on what they think containing North Korea means.
But right off the back they have some crazy. Refusing to support economic recovery spending doesn't lower taxes. Cracking down on illegal immigrants doesn't encourage assimilation, it does the opposite (by increasing suspicion and harassment of legal immigrants). And cap-n-trade is a market based solution, so opposing it is the opposite of supporting market-based-solutions. And outlawing union card checks is literally the opposite of defending secret ballots, so I have no idea what that even means (except that surprise surprise: the Republicans still hate Unions).
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Post by tzor » Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:09 pm

> angelfromanotherpin wrote:Yeah, Reagan fails that test pretty hard. But doublethink is the name of their game.

Normally I let you ranting rabid progressive jackasses drool on in orgasmic glee but this one has to get my comment. How the hell can you even suggest that Reagan would fail this test when over half of the points were not even issues during his lifetime?
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Post by Username17 » Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:31 pm

> tzor wrote:

> > angelfromanotherpin wrote:Yeah, Reagan fails that test pretty hard. But doublethink is the name of their game.

> Normally I let you ranting rabid progressive jackasses drool on in orgasmic glee but this one has to get my comment. How the hell can you even suggest that Reagan would fail this test when over half of the points were not even issues during his lifetime?

Because the purity test is a 3 strikes and you're out plan. Reagan:

- Proposed a stimulus plan in 1981, which fails him on point #1.
- Reagan pulled troops out of Lebanon in defiance of military recommended troop surge requests which fails him on point #6.
- Reagan shipped weapons to Iran, which is the opposite of containing and disarming them, which fails on point #7

The fact that there was no DoMA for him to present an opinion on one way or the other is irrelevant. There are three points that he has violated purity on, so he's out.
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Post by CatharzGodfoot » Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:35 pm

> (9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion;

Hey, at least they're doing an about-face on the abortion issue and trying to protect vulnerable women.
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Post by Username17 » Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:58 pm

> CatharzGodfoot wrote:

> > (9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion;

> Hey, at least they're doing an about-face on the abortion issue and trying to protect vulnerable women.

Actually they are opposing (health care rationing) and opposing (denial of health care) and opposing (government funding of abortion).
So... still evil. The first two are complete non-sequiturs, since no one is actually asking to ration health care any more than we do now.
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Post by Maxus » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:32 pm

It makes me want to cheer because it's narrowing their appeal, despite what they think.
Less appeal = less voters. Less voters = less elections won.
Also, it's sad that right now the GOP is having to use President Obama as a boogeyman to try to scare up the support.
Also: *President* Obama, bitches. He got elected, he gets the title.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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Post by tzor » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:52 pm

> FrankTrollman wrote:Proposed a stimulus plan in 1981, which fails him on point #1.

Well, there you go again, let’s compare the stimulus plan of 1981 and the one of 2009
(Oh nice, someone did it for me, Stimulus 101: Obama Vs. Reagan

> Reagan’s prescription rested on four pillars: tax cuts, deregulation, reductions in the rate of government spending, and a stable, carefully managed growth of the money supply. The federal income tax reduction was the centerpiece: Reagan secured a 25 percent across-the-board reduction over a three-year period, beginning in October 1981. The upper income marginal tax rate was dropped from 70 percent, which Reagan believed was punitive and stifling, to 28 percent.
> …
> The deficit under Ronald Reagan increased 35 percent, from an inherited deficit (from President Jimmy Carter) of $104 billion in 1980 to a final deficit of $141 billion in 1989. The deficit peaked at $236 billion in 1983, particularly because of the plummet in tax revenue during the recession. It began dropping steadily in 1986, continuing through the 1987 crash. (Source: Congressional Budget Office figures, “Historical Tables.”)

Reagan would not touch a Keynesian “throw money at the problem” stimulus in any shape or form. He would have not bailed anyone out and in fact did not bail anyone out back in 1987. I’m sorry Frank, but Reagan passes this test with flying colors.

> FrankTrollman wrote:Reagan pulled troops out of Lebanon in defiance of military recommended troop surge requests which fails him on point #6.

Ah look it’s a diversion. Technically Reagan pulled the troops out of a position where they were vulnerable to an offshore position where they could be easily defended while at the same time allowing for airstrikes against Syrian held positions that were firing on Beirut.

> FrankTrollman wrote:Reagan shipped weapons to Iran, which is the opposite of containing and disarming them, which fails on point #7

Another nice diversion as the conditions in Iran has changed significantly from then and now; back then Iran wasn’t actively trying to join the nuclear club with the express intent of wiping Israel off of the map.
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Post by Ganbare Gincun » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:17 am

> Data Vampire wrote:White House Security Fail

They were rich and white, so it's all good.
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Post by Ganbare Gincun » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:23 am

> tzor wrote:

> > FrankTrollman wrote:Reagan shipped weapons to Iran, which is the opposite of containing and disarming them, which fails on point #7

> Another nice diversion as the conditions in Iran has changed significantly from then and now; back then Iran wasn’t actively trying to join the nuclear club with the express intent of wiping Israel off of the map.

Yes. Thank god we had such a great relationship with Iran! Hey, what's a few illegal weapon sales between friends, amirite?
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Post by Ganbare Gincun » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:24 am

> clikml wrote:I hope the GOP does not stop weeding out moderates until the kkk and pro life bombers are all that is left.

Too late.
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Post by Crissa » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:29 am

It was a Democratic President, so it's all good.
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