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## Cleric vs Psion: No Contest, Right?

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CalibronXXX
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Post by CalibronXXX » Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:57 am

Thanks to the Animal companion the Druid is harder core, than the cleric and everyone else as well, at first level.
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Post by Catharz » Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:45 am

If you just want to be handed a character, a forest gnome druid with a riding dog animal companion is fun and versatile. In combat can use the dog as a mount or a tank, you can use spells like entangle, and you can use ranged attacks or a shillelagh on a whim.
Rather than being the gnome who slows others down, you're a great scout with a speed of 40'.
You have amazing stealth (Hide +12 in wooded areas), you get trackless step at first level, +2 to listen checks (on top of a high wisdom and class skill), and you don't need to waste a spell slot to get speak with animals.
In terms of random sundry abilities, +1 to attack goblinoids and reptilian humanoids is a nice freebie, as are the cantrips and dodge bonus against giants.
Don't forget that when you hit 3rd level your pet jumps to 4 HD (take that fighter) and gets a strength of 18, and will have an AC of 18+barding.
Switch to a dire bat companion at level 4 for continuous flight.
Can you imagine the kind of shit a psion would get if he asked for a free astral construct of his HD+1 with a wolf's tripping ability to act as his mount?
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Post by shirak » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:56 am

Mr. Icy Hot is my favorite Cleric build. Basically, a melee Clericarcher.
For Druids, you want the Druid handbook. Somewhat dated but very good nonetheless.
To be fair, there are some specialized Psion builds that are as good as a Cleric or better at what they do. But it's such a fringe advantage that it basically doesn't matter. See Save Mechanics. Miracle is way more versatile but you have to admire the guy.
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Jacob_Orlove
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Post by Jacob_Orlove » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:56 am

That's easily my favorite D&D exploit (sorry, Frank!). It's just too funny.
If your DM allows that trick, though, a cleric or druid can get the same benefits by taking the Leadership feat at level, what, 9? You miss out on save points for a whole two levels, but get to be the best class in the game instead.
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Post by JonSetanta » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:50 pm

Holy shit those are some nice dirty tricks.

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Draco_Argentum
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Post by Draco_Argentum » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:04 pm

This is why time control spells are bad. So easy to cheese.
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