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Whatever
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Post by Whatever » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:27 pm

Missing the point. Obviously no one wants to die right now. But if I asked in a week "hey, do you want to die right now?" you'd still say no. If I asked in a month, still no. In a year, still no. A decade, still no. And so on.
You might not want to wake up to a million years from now, but you'll always want to wake up tomorrow.
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Post by Kaelik » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:33 pm

> Count Arioch the 28th wrote:

> > sabs wrote:immortality fucking rocks.. I'd happily live a few million years.

> I wouldn't. I'm not happy with my life NOW, why would I want a few million years of the same shit?

Depends on the type of immortality. If for example, as part of it, you don't need to eat/never get sick/heal really fast alla wolverine, or even better, gain super vampire abilities as well, then it's totally worth it.
If you don't need to eat, you can live your entire life wandering in the streets and not giving a shit about working 60 hours at a shitty job, you could steal money or work very little and spend all your money on a boat ride over to Europe, and just backback through Europe into Asia for the first several hundred years, as an eternal tourist.

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Post by Prak » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:33 am

so, finally getting around to watching The Goonies, another one of those "guess I better see what all the fuss is about" things.
Um, so far it fucking sucks. So far the humour revolves around:

- Use Chunk's idiocy to go through an obstacle
- Make fun of Chunk's appetite
- Show Chunk's an incompetent buffoon
- Let Chunk's incompetence work for you

yeah, great movie, friends...
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Post by erik » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:46 am

It was great when I was in a single digit age group. Not our fault you grew up too late. Also, shame on you for not eating the whole crap sandwich before declaring it to be a crap sandwich.
I've found a lot of movies and tv shows really didn't age well. When I went back to see them, I was like, "Ugh, how could I have liked this crap?" I daresay that is the majority of shows from my childhood, upon seeing it again, I fail to grasp the appeal.
Mebbe I'll watch the Goonies again and see if I suffer the same nostalgia-break once more.
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Post by Maj » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:43 am

Speaking of nostalgia, did anyone here besides me watch the reboot of Thundercats?
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Post by K » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:48 am

> Maj wrote:Speaking of nostalgia, did anyone here besides me watch the reboot of Thundercats?

Man, I didn't even know it was a thing. The trailer on youtube looks pretty awesome though.
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Post by Juton » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:55 pm

> Maj wrote:Speaking of nostalgia, did anyone here besides me watch the reboot of Thundercats?

I actually enjoyed, although it comes off the same script assembly line as the new GI Joe and Transformers Prime. I couldn't help thinking it was very D&D in setting.
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Post by sabs » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:58 pm

I really liked the New Thundercats so far..
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Post by angelfromanotherpin » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:58 pm

> Maj wrote:Speaking of nostalgia, did anyone here besides me watch the reboot of Thundercats?

Yes. It was not very good.
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Post by Count Arioch the 28th » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:00 pm

> Whatever wrote:

> > Count Arioch the 28th wrote:I wouldn't. I'm not happy with my life NOW, why would I want a few million years of the same shit?

> Okay, when do you want to die?

I actually gave this some thought before answering.
Right now things aren't "good", but they are better than they've ever been. I am slightly curious to see how much better they can get.
But to answer the question, I want to die the day I can no longer stand on my own two feet. I've seen nursing homes loot a decedent's property like a band of robbers (My ex-gf's stepfather almost lost his house because his mother's nursing home decided that since she lived in his house, it was her house and they had the right to take it despite there being no grounds to think that. He had to fight it in court for six months! When my Grandmother died, the nursing home she was in took almost 10k of savings bonds that were in my name because she had paid for them, some of which she bought over 20 years ago. That one I couldn't fight legally) No thank you, if I own any property when I die it goes to my surviving relatives, not some scummy thieving nursing home.
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Post by sabs » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:27 pm

How is that even legal?
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Post by tzor » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:56 pm

Because the costs of a nursing home are extreemely fucking high; you basically have to sign away all your assets just to get into the place. Otherwise they would probably throw you out after a month or two, due to your lack of ability to pay them.
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Post by Whatever » Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:22 pm

> Count Arioch the 28th wrote:But to answer the question, I want to die the day I can no longer stand on my own two feet.

Good answer. I intentionally omitted physical/mental incapacity, because immortality generally presupposes health and sanity. But without either or both, it's possible that life stops being worth living.
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Post by Maj » Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:35 pm

@Thundercats - I thought it was OK. I haven't decided really.
@sabs: Nursing homes will run you $6K a month, easy. When my grandfather lived in a nursing home, my mother had to sell his house to pay for his medical care. Sort of changed my perspective on what a house is for... Apparently, if you don't have the right insurance, it's a savings account for your death bed.
But the exorbitant cost is one reason I have seen older people book cruises. A 31 day cruise without all the bells and whistles can cost anywhere from half that to the same price. You have your room and board paid for, maid service, pretty decent medical services, and you're traveling around the world in a room that doesn't smell like a nursing home.
@Immortality: Do I have to watch my family die or are they immortal with me?
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Post by fbmf » Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:22 pm

> sabs wrote:I really liked the New Thundercats so far..

Seems I missed the first two episodes, and my google fu is weak today. Any word on if they will re show them?
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Post by Count Arioch the 28th » Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:32 am

> sabs wrote:How is that even legal?

To add to what Tzor and Maj had said, they also require you to sign away everything you have owned as recently as 7 years before you entered the home. Which means that house you sold 3 years ago? They could legally take it regardless of what the current owner thinks. I'll suck off a shotgun before I set foot in a nursing home as a resident.
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Post by sabs » Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:32 am

> fbmf wrote:

> > sabs wrote:I really liked the New Thundercats so far..

> Seems I missed the first two episodes, and my google fu is weak today. Any word on if they will re show them?
> Game On,
> fbmf

I don't know, I torrent things.
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Post by erik » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:24 am

> Count Arioch the 28th wrote:

> > sabs wrote:How is that even legal?

> To add to what Tzor and Maj had said, they also require you to sign away everything you have owned as recently as 7 years before you entered the home. Which means that house you sold 3 years ago? They could legally take it regardless of what the current owner thinks.

Um, some may think that they can, they may even try, but they cannot take what you cannot sign away. And you cannot sign away something you do not own.
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Post by K » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:53 am

> erik wrote:

> > Count Arioch the 28th wrote:

> > > sabs wrote:How is that even legal?

> > To add to what Tzor and Maj had said, they also require you to sign away everything you have owned as recently as 7 years before you entered the home. Which means that house you sold 3 years ago? They could legally take it regardless of what the current owner thinks.

> Um, some may think that they can, they may even try, but they cannot take what you cannot sign away. And you cannot sign away something you do not own.

A little internet research shows that going on Medicaid to cover nursing home costs requires you to turn over assets you had in the last 60 months or be denied coverage. It basically prevents people from raiding grandma's accounts and taking the house before handing her off to the government to support.
Edit: When the state declares "indigent" status to the patient, they can make estate claims going back seven years.
Basically, it's the downside to turning your relatives over to the government to care for.
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Post by erik » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:34 pm

I'm more thinking of that I bought my previous home from a woman who was moving into a nursing home. I find it hard to believe that I could have been legally relieved of my home through no fault of my own in this manner. Actually, damn, if only I'd been relieved of it sooner I wouldn't have spent the last nearly year and a half trying to sell.
What would happen to my mortgage if my house was taken away in such a manner, I wonder?
Heck, it is easily conceivable that a house or property could trade hands twice in 7 years and the current owner would not have had any direct dealings whatsoever with or even knowledge of the patient. It just doesn't smell right.
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Post by Cynic » Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:05 pm

Until recently, I"ve never watched much "Star trek: voyager."
I watched the first season recently and the lack of any proper conflict between the Crew members and the Maquis is strange.
Sure, there might be a few heated words in one conversation, but otherwise they all mingle in such an easy manner.
I think the first episode should have been more about integration of the two crews. Sure, you also need the standard space opera that Trek is about. But, you can at least add interposed crew trouble.

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Post by Count Arioch the 28th » Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:28 pm

> erik wrote:I'm more thinking of that I bought my previous home from a woman who was moving into a nursing home. I find it hard to believe that I could have been legally relieved of my home through no fault of my own in this manner. Actually, damn, if only I'd been relieved of it sooner I wouldn't have spent the last nearly year and a half trying to sell.
> What would happen to my mortgage if my house was taken away in such a manner, I wonder?
> Heck, it is easily conceivable that a house or property could trade hands twice in 7 years and the current owner would not have had any direct dealings whatsoever with or even knowledge of the patient. It just doesn't smell right.

Like I said, my ex GF's Stepfather had to defend himself in court for a good long while because the nursing home his mother was in wanted to take it, despite the fact that at no time was it her property (she just lived there before going to the nursing home). It ended up not sticking, but it took a lot of resources and energy to fight.
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Post by angelfromanotherpin » Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:03 pm

> Cynic wrote:I think the first episode should have been more about integration of the two crews. Sure, you also need the standard space opera that Trek is about. But, you can at least add interposed crew trouble.

It's a prime example of the missed opportunities of Voyager: instead of taking an opportunity to make the show distinctive and interesting, they... did the other thing.
Forget the first episode, Federation/Maquis friction could have been potent dramatic fuel for the entire goddamn series.
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Post by Maj » Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:34 am

I have decided that the reason Hollywood pumps out so many bad horror films is to accommodate wannabe movie stars because porn isn't acceptable.
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Post by Grek » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:34 am

Just saw 30 minutes or less a day ago. Was not expecting stripper tits in the first 5 minutes.

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