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### Will Fox News ever stop fellating Paul Ryan?

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Post by Surgo » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:27 pm

Seriously, every time I go to news.google it's another Fox News story doing just this.
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Post by virgil » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:34 pm

Don't they kind of have to for damage control? He's hugely unpopular amongst those that care about Medicare existing, or women being thrown in the street if their pregnancy will kill them or wanting in vitro fertilization.
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Post by Ancient History » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:47 pm

Hell, he's hugely unpopular among Ayn Rand fans now that he suddenly doesn't like her.
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Post by Josh_Kablack » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:01 am

No, because the only way that Paul Ryan makes any strategic sense for someone who already has the nomination is that the veep pick was outright sold to Rupert Murdoch.
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Post by Maxus » Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:22 am

I did see a clip of him on Fox News the other day, courtesy of the TV at work set to MSNBC.
It was his birthday, and they brought him a cake with a big dollar sign on it. And said it was the federal deficit and he could cut it.
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Post by Darth Rabbitt » Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:55 am

I think his former relative obscurity might be a reason why he's getting so much media hype.

> Ancient History wrote:Hell, he's hugely unpopular among Ayn Rand fans now that he suddenly doesn't like her.

Which makes this, from an article that yours linked to, especially hilarious:

> Key differences between Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney wrote:[Ryan] prides himself on being philosophically consistent and passionate about his ideology.

I think he'll get along with Romney just fine.

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Post by Voss » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:01 am

> Surgo wrote:Seriously, every time I go to news.google it's another Fox News story doing just this.

No. That is literally part of their fucking job- backing the Republican crazy by any means possible.
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Post by Koumei » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:09 am

Sure it'll stop: the very moment he stops being relevant (so, Mittens dumps him for someone prettier, they lose the election, whatever) they'll drop him and forget he ever fucking existed... and then move onto the next guy to harp on about.

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Post by Morat » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:15 am

Well, they won't forget he existed, they'll forget he had a political career and hire him as a commentator.
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Post by Username17 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:36 pm

> Paul Ryan wrote:It’s so important that we go back to our roots to look at Ayn Rand’s vision, her writings, to see what our girding, under-grounding principles are. I always go back to, you know, Francisco d’Anconia’s speech (at Bill Taggart’s wedding) on money when I think about monetary policy. And then I go to the 64-page John Galt speech, you know, on the radio at the end, and go back to a lot of other things that she did, to try and make sure that I can check my premises so that I know that what I’m believing and doing and advancing are square with the key principles of individualism...

Emphasis mine. So, what is Francisco d’Anconia’s speech?

> Francisco d’Anconia’s speech, by Ayn Rand wrote:It is not the moochers or the looters who give value to money. Not an ocean of tears nor all the guns in the world can transform those pieces of paper in your wallet into the bread you will need to survive tomorrow. Those pieces of paper, which should have been gold, are a token of honor – your claim upon the energy of the men who produce. Your wallet is your statement of hope that somewhere in the world around you there are men who will not default on that moral principle which is the root of money...

His monetary policy is that he doesn't believe in fiat money and doesn't think the state has any business issuing currency. That is batshit fucking insane.
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Post by Josh_Kablack » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:05 pm

> Atlas Shrugged page 928 wrote: "For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt Speaking.......<blah blah blah>"

> Atlas Shrugged page 984 wrote: ... They stood in front of the radio, as the last sound of Galt's voice had left them.

984 - 928 != 64
So he can't be bothered to check a source he regards as gospel for page count?
Ok sure, maybe he has a different edition of the book than I do. But if things are different in editions, then why attach numbers to them at all? He coulda just said "John Galt's speech near the end" and everyone who cared woulda known. But he did attach number -- which means that if he wasn't pulling numbers out of his ass, then he was assuming everyone had the same edition he did. So in that case he was assuming that everybody was on the exact same page (literally) he is.
Neither failing to check numbers nor assuming a homogenous society are conductive to any sort of discussion of monetary policy.
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Post by Lago PARANOIA » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:16 pm

> Darth Rabbitt wrote:I think his former relative obscurity might be a reason why he's getting so much media hype.

Nah. Paul Ryan is a 'reasonable' shill for the American overclass like Jon Huntsman and for some reason (hint: it's cupidity) the corporate whore media decided that he's a big idea man with serious ideas on reducing the U.S. budget deficit. Ideas which just so happen to empower the corporate whore media's owners. Anyway, his Ryan Budget kinda-sorta caught on fire as a forced meme the last time he was in a news cycle so the corporate whore media is hoping to have lightning strike twice.

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Post by Koumei » Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:14 am

> Francisco d’Anconia’s speech, by Ayn Rand wrote:It is not the moochers or the looters who give value to money...
> ...your claim upon the energy of the men who produce.

Isn't that an endorsement of communism right there? I mean, the men who produce are the labourers/working class/proletariat, and the moochers and looters would be things like land owners. Just saying, it sounds an awful lot like Rand (and therefore Ryan by association) is spouting communist talk.

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Post by Whatever » Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:22 am

No, no. In their view, it's the owners who produce, not the plebes slaving away.
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Post by Koumei » Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:32 am

Surely we can spin this into a "Paul Ryan is a Communist" thing.

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Post by Kaelik » Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:49 am

It's not really communist talk.
It very clearly states that your worth as a person is based on the value of the workers you own, not based on the value of the work you do.
If anything, it's direct advocacy of wage slavery/the actual slave system in the south pre civil war, since it is literally premised on the idea that you own all the value produced by other people and don't really have to pay them for the actual value, only whatever nominal amount keeps them as your slaves instead of someone else's.
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