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RiotGearEpsilon
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### Can these shadowrun characters be further optimized?

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Post by RiotGearEpsilon » Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:51 pm

Only an idle query. I saw these in an old folder, and now I'm curious as to their reaction from the Den.

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     STALKER #26
    RACE&#58; Human, Vatcloned &#40;00 BP&#41;

    ATTRIBUTES &#40;0 BP&#41; check
    Body&#58; 1          00 BP
    Agility&#58; 1       00 BP
    Reaction&#58; 1      00 BP
    Strength&#58; 1	     00 BP
    Charisma&#58; 1      00 BP
    Intuition&#58; 1     00 BP
    Logic&#58; 1         00 BP
    Willpower&#58; 1     00 BP

    Edge&#58; 1          00 BP

    Essence&#58; 1.475
    Initiative&#58; 8 &#40;10&#41;
    Initiative Passes&#58; 1 &#40;3&#41;
    Physical Damage Track&#58; 11
    Stun Damage Track&#58; 10

    ACTIVE SKILLS &#40;138 BP&#41;
    Athletics Skill Group&#58; 4*      30 BP
    Automatics &#40;SMG's +2&#41;&#58; 7* &#40;9&#41;  26 BP
    Blades &#40;Sword +2&#41;&#58; 4* &#40;6&#41;      14 BP
    Dodge &#40;Ranged +2&#41;&#58; 4* &#40;6&#41;      14 BP
    First Aid &#40;Combat&#41;&#58; 1 &#40;3&#41;      6  BP
    Negotiation&#58; 2                 8  BP
    Infiltration&#58; 1                4  BP
    Unarmed Combat&#58; 3              12 BP
    Perception&#58; 1                  4  BP
    Pilot Ground &#40;Bike&#41;&#58; 1 &#40;3&#41;     6  BP
    Pistols &#40;Semiauto +2&#41;&#58; 3 &#40;5&#41;   14 BP
    *Reflex Recorder Aug'd

    KNOWLEDGE SKILLS &#40;18 FREE SP&#41;
    Aberrantly Extensive Vocabulary&#58; 3
    Chinese Philosophy&#58; 2
    Italian Opera&#58; 3
    Safe Houses&#58; 3
    Zen Meditation&#58; 3

    LANGUAGES SKILLS
    English&#58; N
    Japanese&#58; 2
    Italian&#58; 2

    QUALITIES &#40;35 BP&#41;
    Quick Healer&#58; 10
    Toughness&#58; 10
    Will to Live&#58; 15

    GEAR AND LIFESTYLE &#40;160,000 ¥&#41; &#40;50 BP&#41;
    CYBER
    2 Obvious Cyberarms &#40;Alpha&#41; &#40;60,000¥, 1.6 Ess&#41;
    + Left &#91;15&#93;&#58; Armor 2 &#40;600 ¥, &#91;4&#93;&#41;, Agility 3 &#40;750 ¥, &#91;3&#93;&#41;, Body 3 &#40;600 ¥, &#91;3&#93;&#41;, Strength 3 &#40;750 ¥, &#91;3&#93;&#41;
    + Right &#91;15&#93;&#58; Armor 2 &#40;600 ¥, &#91;4&#93;&#41;, Agility 3 &#40;750 ¥, &#91;3&#93;&#41;, Body 3 &#40;600 ¥, &#91;3&#93;&#41;, Strength 3 &#40;750 ¥, &#91;3&#93;&#41;
    Obvious Cybertorso &#40;Alpha&#41; &#40;40,000¥, 1.2 Ess&#41;
    + &#91;10&#93;&#58; Armor 2 &#40;600 ¥, &#91;4&#93;&#41;, Body 3 &#40;600 ¥, &#91;3&#93;&#41;, Strength 3 &#40;750 ¥, &#91;3&#93;&#41;
    2 Obvious Cyberlegs &#40;Alpha&#41; &#40;60,000¥, 1.6 Ess&#41;
    + Left &#91;20&#93;&#58; Armor 2 &#40;600 ¥, &#91;4&#93;&#41;, Agility 3 &#40;750 ¥, &#91;3&#93;&#41;, Body 3 &#40;600 ¥, &#91;3&#93;&#41;, Strength 3 &#40;750 ¥, &#91;3&#93;&#41;
    + Right &#91;20&#93;&#58; Armor 2 &#40;600 ¥, &#91;4&#93;&#41;, Agility 3 &#40;750 ¥, &#91;3&#93;&#41;, Body 3 &#40;600 ¥, &#91;3&#93;&#41;, Strength 3 &#40;750 ¥, &#91;3&#93;&#41;

    ++ Net Cyberlimbs, Base&#58; &#40;160,000 ¥, 4.4 Ess&#41;
    ++ Net Armor, All Cyberlimbs&#58; &#40;3,000 ¥&#41;
    ++ Net Agility, All Cyberlimbs&#58; &#40;3,000 ¥&#41;
    ++ Net Body, All Cyberlimbs&#58; &#40;3,000 ¥&#41;
    ++ Net Strength, All Cyberlimbs&#58; &#40;3,750 ¥&#41;

    BIO

    CONTACTS &#40;12 BP&#41;
    + Street Doc C2/L2 &#40;4 BP&#41;
    + Fixer C2/L2 &#40;4 BP&#41;
    + Reknowned Opera Singer C2/L2 &#40;4 BP&#41;

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     DOLLFACE
    RACE&#58; ORK &#40;20 BP&#41;

    ATTRIBUTES &#40;210 BP&#41; check
    Body&#58; 5          10 BP
    Agility&#58; 5 &#40;7&#41;   40 BP
    Reaction&#58; 5 &#40;7&#41;  40 BP
    Strength&#58; 5	&#40;7&#41;  20 BP
    Charisma&#58; 3      20 BP
    Intuition&#58; 3     20 BP
    Logic&#58; 3         20 BP
    Willpower&#58; 3     20 BP

    Edge&#58; 3          20 BP

    Essence&#58; 1.475
    Initiative&#58; 8 &#40;10&#41;
    Initiative Passes&#58; 1 &#40;3&#41;
    Physical Damage Track&#58; 11
    Stun Damage Track&#58; 10

    ACTIVE SKILLS &#40;138 BP&#41;
    Athletics Skill Group&#58; 4*      30 BP
    Automatics &#40;SMG's +2&#41;&#58; 7* &#40;9&#41;  26 BP
    Blades &#40;Sword +2&#41;&#58; 4* &#40;6&#41;      14 BP
    Dodge &#40;Ranged +2&#41;&#58; 4* &#40;6&#41;      14 BP
    First Aid &#40;Combat&#41;&#58; 1 &#40;3&#41;      6  BP
    Negotiation&#58; 2                 8  BP
    Infiltration&#58; 1                4  BP
    Unarmed Combat&#58; 3              12 BP
    Perception&#58; 1                  4  BP
    Pilot Ground &#40;Bike&#41;&#58; 1 &#40;3&#41;     6  BP
    Pistols &#40;Semiauto +2&#41;&#58; 3 &#40;5&#41;   14 BP
    *Reflex Recorder Aug'd

    KNOWLEDGE SKILLS &#40;18 FREE SP&#41;
    Aberrantly Extensive Vocabulary&#58; 3
    Chinese Philosophy&#58; 2
    Italian Opera&#58; 3
    Safe Houses&#58; 3
    Zen Meditation&#58; 3

    LANGUAGES SKILLS
    English&#58; N
    Japanese&#58; 2
    Italian&#58; 2

    QUALITIES &#40;+10 BP&#41;
    Addiction &#40;Mild, Hallucinogens&#41; &#40;+5 BP&#41;
    Blandness &#40;10 BP&#41;
    Human-Looking &#40;5 BP&#41;
    Incompetent &#40;Intimidation&#41; &#40;+5 BP&#41;
    Spirit Bane &#40;Man&#41; &#40;+10 BP&#41;
    Weak Immune System &#40;+5 BP&#41;

    GEAR AND LIFESTYLE &#40;249,295 ¥&#41; &#40;50 BP&#41;
    ==== IDENTITY, LIFESTYLE, VEHICLE COSTS&#58; &#40;17,700¥&#41; ===
    IDENTITIES&#58; 5,200¥
    + Fake SIN 4&#58; 4,000¥
    + + Fake License 4 for Streetline Special&#58; 400¥
    + + Fake License 4 for Ingram Smartgun&#58; 400¥
    + + Fake License 4 for Bodyware&#58; 400¥
    LOW LIFESTYLE, 3 MONTHS&#58; 6,000¥
    + Starting Cash&#58; 3d6+9x50¥
    Suzuki Mirage Racing Bike&#58; 6,500¥

    ==== ELECTRONICS AND SOFTWARE COSTS&#58; &#40;7,125 ¥&#41; ====
    PRIMARY COMM&#58; 3,350 ¥
    + Comm&#58; Novatech Airware &#40;1250 ¥&#41;
    + + OS&#58; Iris Orb &#40;1000 ¥&#41;.
    + + AR Gloves &#40;250 ¥&#41;, Trodes &#40;50 ¥&#41;, Subvocal Microphone &#40;50 ¥&#41;
    + + Map/Datasofts, Sim Recordings of opera&#58; 750 ¥
    DECOY COMM&#58; 500 ¥
    + CMT Clip &#40;300 ¥&#41;
    + + OS&#58; Vector XIM &#40;200 ¥&#41;
    SECURITY TOOLS&#58; 150 ¥
    + Tag Eraser &#40;150 ¥&#41;
    SENSOR PACKAGES&#58; &#40;3,125 ¥&#41;
    + Belt Clip w/Atmosphere Sensor 3, Geiger Counter, Olfactory Sensor 6

    ==== NET 'WARE COST&#58; &#40;187,600 ¥, 4.525 Ess&#41; ====
    CYBERWARE &#40;92,600 ¥, 3.8 Ess&#41;
    + Wired Reflexes 2 &#40;Alpha&#41; &#40;64,000 ¥, 2.4 Ess&#41;
    + Dermal Plating 2 &#40;Alpha&#41; &#40;20,000 ¥, 0.8 Ess&#41;
    + Cybereyes &#40;Rating 2, w/Flare Compensation &#91;1&#93;, Thermographic Vision &#91;2&#93;, Low-Light Vision &#91;2&#93;, Protective Covers &#91;-&#93;, Smartlink &#91;3&#93;&#41; &#40;4,600 ¥, 0.3 Ess&#41;
    + Cyberears &#40;Rating 1, w/ Audio Enhancement 1 &#91;1&#93;, Damper &#91;1&#93;, Spatial Recognizer &#91;2&#93;&#41; &#40;3,500 ¥, 0.2 Ess&#41;
    + Datajack &#40;500 ¥, 0.1 Ess&#41;
    BIOWARE &#40;95,000 ¥, 1.45 Ess&#41;
    + Muscle Augmentation/Toner 2 &#40;30,000 ¥, 0.8 Ess&#41;
    + Sleep Regulator &#40;10,000 ¥, 0.15 Ess&#41;
    + Reflex Recorders&#58; Athletics, Automatics, Blades, Dodge &#40;55,000 ¥, 0.5 Ess&#41;

    ==== NET ARMORY COST&#58; &#40;10,020 ¥&#41; ====
    ARMOR&#58; 5,000¥
    + Camouflage Suit &#40;1,200¥&#41;
    + + Chemical Protection 4 &#40;1000¥&#41;, Fire Resistance 5 &#40;500¥&#41;, Insulation 4 &#40;600¥&#41;, Nonconductivity 5 &#40;1000¥&#41;, Helmet &#40;100¥&#41;
    + Armor Vest &#40;600¥&#41;
    SUBMACHINEGUN&#58; 3,095¥
    + Ingram Smartgun X &#40;650¥&#41; 32&#40;c&#41;
    + + Gas-Vent 2 &#40;included&#41;, Smartgun System &#40;included&#41;, sound suppressor &#40;included&#41;, detachable folding stock &#40;included&#41;, imaging scope w/ vision magnification, image link, flare compensation &#40;475¥&#41;
    + + Clips of EX Explosive Rounds x5 &#40;1625¥&#41;, Clips of Regular Rounds x5 &#40;345&#41;
    HEAVY PISTOL&#58; 690¥
    + Ares Predator IV &#40;350¥&#41;
    + + Silencer &#40;200¥&#41;
    + + Clips of Regular Ammo x4 &#40;140¥&#41;
    HOLDOUT PISTOL&#58; 285¥
    + Streetline Special &#40;100¥&#41;
    + + Smartgun Mod &#40;100¥&#41;
    + + Clips of regular ammo x5 &#40;85¥&#41;
    MELEE WEAPONS&#58; 950¥
    + Monofilament Sword &#40;750¥&#41;
    + Forearm Snap-Blades &#40;150¥&#41;
    + Survival Knife &#40;50¥&#41;

    ==== B&E AND SURVIVAL GEAR&#58; &#40;26850 ¥&#41; ====
    B&E&#58; 295 ¥
    + Chisel &#40;20 ¥&#41;, Miniwelder &#40;250 ¥&#41;, Wire Clippers &#40;25¥&#41;
    SURVIVAL GEAR&#58; 355 ¥
    + Gas Mask &#40;100 ¥&#41;, Gecko Tape Gloves &#40;250 ¥&#41;, Lightstick &#40;5¥&#41;
    MEDICAL&#58; 26,200 ¥
    + Biomonitor &#40;300 ¥&#41;, Medkit 6 &#40;600 ¥&#41;, Stimulant Patch 6 x2 &#40;300 ¥&#41;
    + Gold DocWagon Contract &#40;25,000 ¥&#41;

    CONTACTS &#40;12 BP&#41;
    + Street Doc C2/L2 &#40;4 BP&#41;
    + Fixer C2/L2 &#40;4 BP&#41;
    + Reknowned Opera Singer C2/L2 &#40;4 BP&#41;

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     SMILING JOE SHOOTS FIRST
    RACE&#58; HUMAN &#40;0 BP&#41;

    ATTRIBUTES &#40;240 BP&#41;
    Body&#58; 3      20 BP
    Agility&#58; 3	 20 BP
    Reaction&#58; 3	 20 BP
    Strength&#58; 3	 20 BP
    Charisma&#58; 5  40 BP
    Intuition&#58; 3 20 BP
    Logic&#58; 3     20 BP
    Willpower&#58; 3 20 BP
    Magic&#58; 5     40 BP
    Edge&#58; 4      20 BP

    Essence&#58; 6
    Initiative&#58; 6
    Initiative Passes&#58;  1
    Physical Damage Track&#58; 10
    Stun Damage Track&#58; 10

    ACTIVE SKILLS &#40;120 BP&#41;
    Computer &#40;Edit +2&#41;&#58; 2 &#40;4&#41;           10 BP
    Dodge 2 &#40;Ranged +2&#41;&#58; 2 &#40;4&#41;          10 BP
    Influence Skill Group&#58; 4 &#40;6&#41;        40 BP
    Perception &#40;Hearing +2&#41; 2&#58;          10 BP
    Pistols &#40;Hold-Outs +2&#41;&#58; 2 &#40;4&#41;	      10 BP
    Stealth Skill Group&#58; 4              40 BP

    KNOWLEDGE SKILLS &#40;18 FREE BP&#41;
    18 for free
    Fine Cuisine&#58; 2 &#40;4 FBP&#41;
    BTL Culture&#58; 2 &#40;4 FBP&#41;
    Upper Class Fads&#58; 2 &#40;4 FBP&#41;
    Elven Celebrities&#58; 2 &#40;4 FBP&#41;

    LANGUAGES SKILLS &#40;2 FBP&#41;
    English&#58; N
    Sperethiel&#58; 1 &#40;2 FBP&#41;

    QUALITIES &#40;+10 BP&#41;
    Addiction &#40;Moderate, BTLs&#41; &#40;+10 BP&#41;
    Adept &#40;5 BP&#41;
    Elf Poser &#40;+5 BP&#41;
    First Impression &#40;5 BP&#41;
    SINner &#40;+5 BP&#41;

    ADEPT POWERS &#40;5 POWER POINTS FROM MAGIC&#41;
    Improved Ability &#40;Influence Skill Group&#41;&#58; 2
    Kinesics&#58; 5
    Voice Control

    GEAR AND LIFESTYLE &#40;88970 ¥&#41; &#40;18 BP&#41;

    High Lifestyle, 2 months 20,000 ¥ CHECK
    Starting Cash&#58; 4d6+3x500 ¥
    2 Cheap SIN's &#40;Rating 1&#41; for shuffle 2,000 ¥ CHECK
    1 Ace SIN &#40;Rating 4&#41; for use 4,000 ¥ CHECK

    Mitsubishi Nightsky &#40;20,000 ¥&#41; 21,800 ¥ CHECK
     + Autosoft 3&#58; Clearsight, Defense, Maneuver &#40;1,800 ¥&#41;

    =-=-= Electronics Subtotal&#58; 34,660 ¥ =-=-=

    "Talker Comm" Hermes Ikon w/ Response 4->5 Upgrade &#40;7,000¥&#41; plus extra&#58; 26,000 ¥ CHECK
     + Firewall 3 &#40;600¥&#41;, System 5 &#40;2,500¥&#41;&#58; 3,100 ¥
     + Skinlink &#40;50¥&#41;, Sim Module &#40;100¥&#41;, Subvocal Microphone &#40;50 ¥&#41;, Trodes &#40;50 ¥&#41;&#58; 250 ¥
     + Linguasoft 5&#58; Arabic, Japanese, Chinese, French, German, Spanish &#40;15,000 ¥&#41;
     + BTL's&#58; 150 ¥
     + Edit 5&#58; 500 ¥
    =====
    Contact Lenses &#40;50 ¥&#41; 1,000 ¥ CHECK
     + Smartlink &#40;500 ¥&#41;, Skinlink &#40;50 ¥&#41;
     + Fake License &#40;Rating 4&#41; for Smartlink &#40;400 ¥&#41;
    =====

    "Public Comm" Sony Emperor with Renraku Ichi 1,300¥ CHECK
    ===== Sensory Equipment&#58; 1,010 ¥ CHECK
    Glasses &#40;25 ¥&#41; 300 ¥
     + Low light &#40;100 ¥&#41;, Flare Compensation &#40;50 ¥&#41;, Vision Magnification &#40;100 ¥&#41;, Image Link &#40;25 ¥&#41;
    Earbuds &#40;10 ¥&#41; 460 ¥
     + Audio Enhancement 3 &#40;300 ¥&#41;, Spatial Recognizer &#40;100 ¥&#41;, Skinlink &#40;50¥&#41;
    AR Gloves 250 ¥
    =====

    Handheld Sensor Package 200 ¥ CHECK
     + Camera &#40;100 ¥&#41;, Directional Microphone &#40;50 ¥&#41;, Skinlink &#40;50 ¥&#41;

    Latex Face Mask Kit x10 5,000 ¥ CHECK

    Tag Eraser&#58; 150¥
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    =-=-= Guns And Armor Subtotal&#58; 6,510 ¥ =-=-=

    Actioneer Business Clothes, &#40;1,500 ¥&#41; 3,900 ¥
     + Includes a concealed holster inside the jacket.
     + Fire Resistance 6 &#40;600 ¥&#41;
     + Nonconductivity 6 &#40;1,200 ¥&#41;
     + Shock Frills &#40;200 ¥&#41;
     + + Fake License &#40;Rating 4&#41; for Shock Frills &#40;400 ¥&#41;

    Raecor Sting &#40;350 ¥&#41; 1,370 ¥
     + Integrated Smartgun Capability &#40;350 ¥&#41;
     + Skinlink &#40;50 ¥&#41;
     + Spare Clips w/ Flechette Ammo x4 &#40;220 ¥&#41;
     + Fake License &#40;Rating 4&#41; for Sting &#40;400 ¥&#41;

    Hammerli 620S &#40;650 ¥&#41; 1,240 ¥
     + Skinlink &#40;50 ¥&#41;
     + Silencer &#40;200 ¥&#41;
     + Spare Clips w/ Stick-n-Shock x5 &#40;265 ¥&#41;
     + Concealable Holster &#40;75 ¥&#41;

    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    CONTACTS &#40;32 BP&#41;
    Arms Dealer C2/L3  5BP
    BTL Dealer C2/L2   4BP
    Blogger C2/L3      5BP
    College Dean C2/L3 5BP
    Fixer C4/L4        8BP
    Mr. Johnson C2/L3  5BP

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Orion
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Post by Orion » Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:09 pm

They don't appear to be from 4th edition, so... not sure what to make of them.
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Post by RiotGearEpsilon » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:18 pm

These are all 4th edition characters.
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cthulhu
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Post by cthulhu » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:26 am

You don;t have 35 points of negative qualities on all of them, so further optimization can obviously be reached.
Starting with a high lifestyle is almost always a good idea because it will almost always pay itself off straight away with higher starting money.
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