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Roy
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### Remember that Frantic fucker?

Post by Roy » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:25 pm

Well I got this about 20 minutes ago on another board.

> Iron Mongler wrote:Hello again. I was recently linked to a site you frequent called Gaming Den, and noticed some people connecting me to a new user there named Frantic. I'm going to issue an apology to you and anyone he offended for his actions, which is the result of IRC trolling gone wrong. I originally was just looking on Myth-Weavers for things to let him use as trolling against you, and I think even I went a little far in bothering to do so.
> However, Frantic spamming images on your board was unacceptable. I won't be bothering looking at your threads again (outside of ones I stumble across on the public boards, of course), but I just feel I should say the way we acted was a bit out of line, especially with my closing comment to you in the 4e quirks thread. That argument got really out of control, and I never meant to separate roleplayers and rollplayers to violate Stormwind Fallacy.
> Take that as you will. You're not my favorite user out there, but I have my limits. I don't think I'd be a good user at Gaming Den because I rarely personally attack people, but I admit I lost my temper with people in that discussion and with you in general, which I believe led to this happening.
> No hard feelings to you though, I was trying to have things be all in good fun.

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> Draco_Argentum wrote:

> > Mister_Sinister wrote:Clearly, your cock is part of the big barrel the server's busy sucking on.

> Can someone tell it to stop using its teeth please?

> Juton wrote:Damn, I thought [Pathfailure] accidentally created a feat worth taking, my mistake.

> Koumei wrote:Shad, please just punch yourself in the face until you are too dizzy to type. I would greatly appreciate that.

> Kaelik wrote:No, bad liar. Stop lying.

Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type I - doing exactly the opposite of what they said they would do.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type II - change for the sake of change.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type III - the illusion of change.
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Sir Neil
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Post by Sir Neil » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:01 am

"IRC trolling"? What does that mean?

> Koumei wrote:If other sites had plenty of good homebrew stuff the Den wouldn't need to exist. We don't come here because we like each other.

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Prak
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Post by Prak » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:31 am

I think it's referring to IRC chatting...
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Crissa
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Post by Crissa » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:50 am

Or perhaps, trolling for someone to take his position.
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Maxus
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Post by Maxus » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:35 am

A little too far?
Jeezus.
I would have to sit up with a thesaurus to find all the right words to express my discontent at the moment.
So, why don't we just start...
"To Iron Mongler,
I am profoundly unamused by your recent venture in trolling this forum. I am sure I can speak for the rest of the Denizens, as well as myself, in saying that your definition of 'good fun' seems to be outside the bounds of taste. Or honesty, seeing as how you not only trolled the forum, you did it through an intermediary. It was dishonest and it was downright wrong. That you are saying it was intended in good humor leads me to two possible conclusions: A) You're lying and trying to make nice now B) Your idea of playing around is not fun for the people you are playing with.
Yes, we are abrasive. We don't hesitate to call names or describe each other's intelligence or various habits. I am sure many find the atmosphere here to be astoundingly acidic.
But.
The regular Gaming Den users do not maintain an illusion of civility using passive-aggressiveness language or actions when they dislike somebody, like what the moderators let slide on the Paizo boards. They also do not hold grudges, for the most part. Each topic is a new game. Two people who accused each of heavy drug use in a previous discussion may have a rational and civil discussion in a new one. I find this forum to be much more honest, and therefore much more preferable, than any other forum I've been on. It's not the land of cookies and candy and sugar, but the sweets aren't soaked with sewage, either.
That you saw his activities means you were watching to see the fireworks, you asshat. You fucking set us up. And...After how long Frantic has been banned, you only JUST now sent the message containing your half-assed, sort-of apology? On another board, no less?
You owe us an apology not only for Frantic, but for yourself, you dishonest, slime-coated passive-aggressive weasel. Your actions were inexcuseable, and it's really, really sad that the closest you can come to an apology is, "I didn't mean for it to go that far, I might have went a little too far, no hard feelings, right?" I'd even say it's unmanly, because of the noticeable lack of testicles it's showing.
Reading your message really irritated me. If you were in arm's reach, I'd be really, really tempted to hit you upside the head and say what I've just said. Only louder. Maybe accompanied by a few more wallops. And demand to know how the hell you thought you were right or funny or friendly in doing that."
Feel free to pass that along, Roy.
Edit: Oh, nope, looks like I didn't have to use the thesaurus.
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Prak
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Post by Prak » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:51 am

ok, I know this is kinda tangential and picky, but... what the hell kind of screen name is "Iron Mongler"? "Mongler" is not a word, outside of maybe "cock-mongler", so is he supposed to convey that he is a mongler of iron, the same way one might be a mongler of cocks? Is he a cock-mongler made of iron? Does he mongle iron cocks (go the fuck away throwbacks*... just go the fuck away and rape each other....)?
*don't ask, or make damned sure you want to know... I actually am more than happy to explain...
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Roy
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Post by Roy » Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:25 am

Well first of all, it is important to note that despite his claims he is no longer stalker trolling me, he still is. So he'll read this and if he wants to say something about it he easily can. I'm not passing along anything.
Second, I originally mentioned this as proof there was a connection between them, exactly as I said there was.
Third off, I continued talking to him, since he is clearly unwilling to directly confront his detractors. Even though this is the internet, and everyone is anonymous anyways.
The following exchange took place after the original post:
Roy: Right... And of course you don't bother explaining why you were trolling me and/or helping this guy troll me in the first place or anything of that nature. In fact everything you said here is quite ambiguous. Perhaps even deliberately so.
Care to take two, or is this more of the stalker troll harassment?
IM: Because you were a great lulzcow. Though with that hostile attitude, and given that you went and posted this over on Gaming Den to escalate the situation, I'm starting to regret even bothering trying to be civil.
Have a nice day.
Roy: That's what you call civility? Well at least you answered my question.
IM: I would have said it in a non-memeish way had you not immediately gone and posted it over at Gaming Den. I don't know whether you're trying to mock me or just Frantic for this, but I am genuinely trying to settle this down.
Roy: My original response was along the lines of if you're serious prove it by explaining things better instead of coming across as ambiguous and at least borderline trolling. You didn't take the offer.
As for the Den, what do you care? Did you even do anything with your account there? Even if they did ban you for that (very unlikely) it makes no difference, so why complain about it? It does however prove my initial hypothesis right.
So again, if you're serious start proving it. Otherwise, to use your own words against you you will be a 'great lulzcow'.
IM: Initially I felt rather offended at the responses within the 4th edition quirks thread, and decided to bring it up within our IRC room for laughs. Frantic went and made an account there to troll the users there, and eventually went overboard. I think that should sum it up for you?
As for posting it on the Den, it just feels like you're trying to dismiss me even bothering to listen to me. I had the intention of keeping a private message to you, well...private.
Roy: So essentially, you got mad that people were breaking down the flaws in 4.0, mentioned it for a laugh and he got involved. And if that was all it was, I wouldn't even care. Trouble is, that's not all. You've been stalker trolling me for weeks to feed the guy, by your own admission. And you're still doing it despite your claims that you would stop, else you would not know I presented the proof of a connection between you.
So for all your talk of apologizing and wanting to 'make amends' for something you are late to the party for anyways, your actions do not in any way match your words. Go on, take a guess why I'm not taking you at all seriously.
Now you can keep talking and try to change my mind, but as it is now I have only a little reason to believe you are anything other than yet another of my pet stalker trolls, banding together in a dumb**** squad to harass me because they lost an argument on the internet and got so terribly upset about having their fanboy like sensibilities offended that they have to whine and flail about it everywhere. Except worse, because most of them at least are willing to attack me themselves instead of hiding behind someone else while already on the internet and thus anonymous anyways.
And this is yet another reason why 4.0 is a terrible system - it attracts people with that almost cult like mindset because no one else can honestly defend it. What are my crimes, indeed.
And since others have independently realized the flaws in his approach, I know it is not just me getting that impression.
He claims that he simply mentioned that thread in the MW IRC channel and this is what caused Frantic to start trolling everyone, mostly me.
Of course if that was all it was, I wouldn't even care. But it wasn't. That's a load of bullshit since he himself admitted to following me around collecting data to use to troll me. Of course I already knew he was doing that, as there was a direct correlation between seeing IM in my game and seeing Frantic use that as material against me (he later made himself a private user, and I'd see 1 hidden user around the same time) but the confession removes whatever doubts may have been left.
And since I've already said those same things and others to him directly as you can see from the unedited copy pasta (MW filters the word fuck, even in PMs), and he's open to defend himself against the allegations leveled against him at any time it is not cowardly to do the things I'm doing, namely reposting late PMs here.
And then there's the late factor.
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> Draco_Argentum wrote:

> > Mister_Sinister wrote:Clearly, your cock is part of the big barrel the server's busy sucking on.

> Can someone tell it to stop using its teeth please?

> Juton wrote:Damn, I thought [Pathfailure] accidentally created a feat worth taking, my mistake.

> Koumei wrote:Shad, please just punch yourself in the face until you are too dizzy to type. I would greatly appreciate that.

> Kaelik wrote:No, bad liar. Stop lying.

Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type I - doing exactly the opposite of what they said they would do.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type II - change for the sake of change.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type III - the illusion of change.
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mean_liar
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Post by mean_liar » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:43 pm

Frantic is banned. The image, though disturbing to most, was to me a solid 'meh'. It was certainly not AWWWWWWWWRIGHT.
Further discussion is also meh. Huge TL;DR screeds are even more meh.
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Roy
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Post by Roy » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:33 pm

You can just ignore this thread ya know. Since the point has been made and all.

> Draco_Argentum wrote:

> > Mister_Sinister wrote:Clearly, your cock is part of the big barrel the server's busy sucking on.

> Can someone tell it to stop using its teeth please?

> Juton wrote:Damn, I thought [Pathfailure] accidentally created a feat worth taking, my mistake.

> Koumei wrote:Shad, please just punch yourself in the face until you are too dizzy to type. I would greatly appreciate that.

> Kaelik wrote:No, bad liar. Stop lying.

Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type I - doing exactly the opposite of what they said they would do.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type II - change for the sake of change.
Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type III - the illusion of change.
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fbmf
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Post by fbmf » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:58 pm

I'd say this thread has served its purpose.
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