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Lago PARANOIA
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### In the future, the entirety of society should be Matrix'd up

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Post by Lago PARANOIA » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:57 am

So say in the far future after primitive and cruel human reproduction has been phased out and robot children has replaced us... uh, why do we have robots still? What's up with that?
It seems ridiculously wasteful and restrictive to actually have people with bodies running around on Earth soil, since a robot body consumes many, many times more resources than a computer program. It's also kind of cruel, too. So why can't we have a Matrix-style deal where there aren't people existing independently of the Matrix? Everyone exists as AIs in the 'simulation'. That way we support a lot more people and also make everyone's lives better, since it's a lot easier to stimulate someone's brain so that they have a mansion with a badass swimming pool and atomic hookers than to actually waste resources creating them.
Obviously we wouldn't have a deal where people inside aren't aware of the world outside. People would know but they wouldn't interact with it except on a minimal level; manipulating machines and whatnot to expand the matrix, fight off alien invaders, produce energy, so-on. Our children just wouldn't do their pooping and bleeding and fucking in the same place they need to work unlike the imperfect system we have right now.
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Post by erik » Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:19 am

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Post by Starmaker » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:43 pm

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Post by CatharzGodfoot » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:25 pm

That would be pretty hilarious. I mean, we're obviously already in a simulation of a universe. Creating our own simulation raises the question of how many other layers of simulation we're currently living within.
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Post by IGTN » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:08 pm

> CatharzGodfoot wrote:we're obviously already in a simulation of a universe.

How so?
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Post by Cynic » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:18 pm

> IGTN wrote:

> > CatharzGodfoot wrote:we're obviously already in a simulation of a universe.

> How so?

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Post by Convoluted » Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:35 pm

This is sort of related... there's a movie coming out this month called "The Surrogates". It's based off a comic book. The basic thing of the is that humans sit at home hooked up to a console and control a fake body--a surrogate-- that goes out into the world and does everything for them.
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Post by Lago PARANOIA » Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:23 pm

> This is sort of related... there's a movie coming out this month called "The Surrogates". It's based off a comic book. The basic thing of the is that humans sit at home hooked up to a console and control a fake body--a surrogate-- that goes out into the world and does everything for them.

That's dumb. People shouldn't have surrogate bodies out in the 'real' world unless they're going to do something like perform maintenance on the Matrix or fix solar cells. It's extremely wasteful and classist.

> Josh Kablack wrote:Your freedom to make rulings up on the fly is in direct conflict with my freedom to interact with an internally consistent narrative. Your freedom to run/play a game without needing to understand a complex rule system is in direct conflict with my freedom to play a character whose abilities and flaws function as I intended within that ruleset. Your freedom to add and change rules in the middle of the game is in direct conflict with my ability to understand that rules system before I decided whether or not to join your game.
> In short, your entire post is dismissive of not merely my intelligence, but my agency. And I don't mean agency as a player within one of your games, I mean my agency as a person. You do not want me to be informed when I make the fundamental decisions of deciding whether to join your game or buying your rules system.

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Post by Crissa » Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:11 pm

Movies never choose a version to run with which to make sense. You have to just realize that if you want to actually watch movies.
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