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Post by ubernoob » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:48 am

> PhoneLobster wrote:That IS mana issues. You had to buy one of the best Mana resource items in the game, spam abilities to feed it, and even dedicated your runes to the mana issue.
> You are corki. You could be, perhaps should be, buying flat Armour Piercing runes and Move Speed runes, even flat damage bonus runes for his passive.
> There are other DPS and ranged DPS out there who don't have to do that. So they get to use their items, their time, and their rune sets on OTHER things.

Well, yeah. The point is that his weakness is mana, so you cover that weakness. Runes can't give you valkyrie or missile spam.
And yeah, my marks are flat armor penetration.
Serious question: Corki really fits how I like to play LoL (harass, zone, pushes minions rapidly, efficient farmer). Is there another ranged DPS (doesn't need to be carry level) that gets equal harass while also having an escape skill? Caitlyn seems closest to a zone carry, but her escape net blows chunks. Melee is out of the question. Level 1 melee pisses me off to no end when I'm trying to last hit. Ranged only.
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Post by name_here » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:34 am

I downloaded the demo for dungeon seige 3. Not permitting people to save at all during the demo is what is commonly referred to as a "dick move".
Also, you'd think the fact that one (of only two) of the possible characters is an incarnation of elemental fire would slightly affect dialogue, but no.

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Post by Cynic » Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:15 am

When did rockstar almost exclusively become a console title?
I want to play L.A. noire so much. Except I don't have a next-gen system. Why can't the pc get any love?

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Post by PhoneLobster » Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:59 am

> ubernoob wrote:Is there another ranged DPS (doesn't need to be carry level) that gets equal harass while also having an escape skill?

If you like corki go crazy. There ARE people who regard him as top tier awesome... outside of solo queue... but really the reputation is probably like EVERY such reputation for actually unpopular champs in LoL and based on VERY dated information.
But I would recommend experimenting with Kennen (very hard and you MUST have a very good Ping to use effectively, but if you are fast then... well...)
At your level you can still use Janna in that sort of role and be awesome fast with your movement.
Others I might have to think about, but they... ooh do it tanky with Makoi, greatly underrated ranged harasser that guy. Also Tristana and Vayne might be worth a look.
Damnit there are too many confusing second rate carbon copies in LoL to give a clear answer.
But really there ARE better ranged DPS out there, at least as far as I am concerned. I mean Armour Pen abilities Damage bonus abilities and a reliance on an AP based MAGIC damage ultimate, new champs just plain don't do that sort of anti-synergy thing.
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Post by Maxus » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:38 am

So, beat Bioshock 2. It wasn't nearly as good a story as a first one, but I enjoyed the gameplay more.
It was sort of satisfying to have two pet security drones hovering around me on towards the end of the game. And for the last chapter, I put together every tonic which could increase drill damage and reduce plasmid costs, and sort rolled around bashing Big Daddies and brutes in the head once, and once only, to kill them.
The final fight was especially fun, considering how much chaos I was causing among the swarming enemies.
I might actually replay the game just to try a different approach to combat and the like.
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Post by ubernoob » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:48 am

> PhoneLobster wrote:But I would recommend experimenting with Kennen (very hard and you MUST have a very good Ping to use effectively, but if you are fast then... well...)

Oh god. Kennen is a nightmare for me. No can do.

> At your level you can still use Janna in that sort of role and be awesome fast with your movement.

When she comes up on free week again I will try Janna.

> Others I might have to think about, but they... ooh do it tanky with Makoi, greatly underrated ranged harasser that guy. Also Tristana and Vayne might be worth a look.

HATED Makoi. Tristana I find kind of boring (I do like her jump) and Vayne just doesn't play fluidly for me.

> Damnit there are too many confusing second rate carbon copies in LoL to give a clear answer.
> But really there ARE better ranged DPS out there, at least as far as I am concerned. I mean Armour Pen abilities Damage bonus abilities and a reliance on an AP based MAGIC damage ultimate, new champs just plain don't do that sort of anti-synergy thing.

Yeah, I agree. That's why I use his ult for poking and procing trinity force instead of actually expecting it to do meaningful damage.
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Post by DragonChild » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:56 am

Corki isn't that bad, I don't think, but another champ you may want to try is Miss Fortune. With practice, her harass is NASTY as hell, and for escape she has a bullet rain that slows all in an area. Nowhere near as good as corki's, mind - and I think a jump ability is really good on a starting champ, just as it makes sure you aren't punished hard for mistakes.
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Post by ubernoob » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:03 am

> DragonChild wrote:Corki isn't that bad, I don't think, but another champ you may want to try is Miss Fortune. With practice, her harass is NASTY as hell, and for escape she has a bullet rain that slows all in an area. Nowhere near as good as corki's, mind - and I think a jump ability is really good on a starting champ, just as it makes sure you aren't punished hard for mistakes.

I actually prefer Ashe over Miss Fortune for a couple of reasons:
1) Skillshots keep me engaged in the game.
2) I live to kite.
3) Volley is pretty much as good as bullet rain for creep farm.
I can play MF, but I don't find her as exciting. And it's not so much that the jump lets me get away with mistakes, but that it lets me get away with being aggressive. Very few of the ranged DPS can actually get away with being as aggressive as Corki can. I think the only champ that can push/harass harder is Tristana, and she has to be REALLY careful about 1v1s, so I like her less.
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Post by Guyr Adamantine » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:56 pm

> Maxus wrote:So, beat Bioshock 2. It wasn't nearly as good a story as a first one, but I enjoyed the gameplay more.
> It was sort of satisfying to have two pet security drones hovering around me on towards the end of the game. And for the last chapter, I put together every tonic which could increase drill damage and reduce plasmid costs, and sort rolled around bashing Big Daddies and brutes in the head once, and once only, to kill them.
> The final fight was especially fun, considering how much chaos I was causing among the swarming enemies.
> I might actually replay the game just to try a different approach to combat and the like.

Yeah, the replay value is way higher for me, even if the story is kinda weak.
Also, that's pretty much how I do it: Frost+Drill=DEAD STUFF
Season with various plasmids. Cyclone Trap is especially fun.
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Post by Maxus » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:31 pm

Well, I sort of went for DAKKADAKKADAKKA when I could.
When gathering Adam, I'd pick spots that had turrets or cameras, lay out trap rivets and cyclone traps and proximity, and throw out a mini-turret or two.
I even got that "Master Protector" achievement--no splicer can get to the Little sister, and you can't get hurt during the entire gather.
My plasmid choice...I actually used Incinerate more than I did anything else. The constant burn damage was great for use on Big Sisters and Big Daddies.
For most of the game, the machine gun and shotgun were my favorite. The spear gun was nasty, too.
But at the end of the game, I amped the drill damage as much as I fucking could, and killed Alpha series and Brutes in one drill bash. Sometimes from across the room.
Enormously satisfying.
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He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
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Post by Guyr Adamantine » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:50 pm

Ice Blast 3 had the benefit of freezing foes around a destroyed freezee (?). Combined with a charge, it was pretty sweet. Also, BEES to distract everyone else.
I did bring out the guns when I needed to lay a trap for a Big Sister, mind you
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Post by Maxus » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:07 pm

> Guyr Adamantine wrote:
> I did bring out the guns when I needed to lay a trap for a Big Sister, mind you

I always used a lot of phosphorus shotgun ammo on tough enemies. Not least because it seriously builds up research bonuses. Every time the little things pop, it'd give a ton of points. I got research scores in the 1500's on enemies like Big Daddies doing that.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
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Post by Blicero » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:11 pm

> Cynic wrote:When did rockstar almost exclusively become a console title?
> I want to play L.A. noire so much. Except I don't have a next-gen system. Why can't the pc get any love?

You're in luck.
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Post by name_here » Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:05 am

So, I've now purchased beaten dungeon siege three.
Comments:
1. The aformentioned issue with not noticing that one possible player character is an Archon, a semidivine entity of elemental fire who can (poorly) disguise herself as a human is slightly less severe later in the plot, but it crops up in ways that are increasingly hilarious.
There's one instance where you get sent into a segment of mine being intentionally flooded with explosive gas, and not only does it not explode, no one even mentions the fact that sending someone who has fire instead of hair into the area might not be ideal.
However, the other Archons in the game are apparently able to tell that she's one of them, although everyone else is apparently orange-natural eye color colorblind and can't hear reverb.
2. Apparently no one in this setting can negotiate without someone getting the shit beaten out of them first. One instance was particularly unhappy, because
I'd gone into what was apparently union-incited violence, which was reasonably clear cut because of the murdering and suchlike, until I abruptly discovered it was actually a slave revolt. That... was not clear cut. But I kept getting attacked on sight until I beat up the organizer. Happily it turned out slavery was actually illegal in that city and their status got upgraded to "19th century factory worker" which I suppose constitutes an improvement.
3. The last two "dungeons" are really awesome.
Basically, you get to storm the citadel of a crazed Archon, who has become the patron saint of a religion other than the one that she's a semidivine servant of at the behest of the voices in her head. There's a bunch of other Archons of varying sanity, all of whom make for entertaining fights. Once you've finished that up, you get to fight through a cursed forest/swamp you visited earlier, only now it's on fire and being pounded by a meteor storm. It's full of zombie archons and four-armed giant nasties, and finally you fight a zombie god.
4. The game has one of those accursed dialogue wheels, like Mass Effect. It's actually decently implemented; there's no magic to the arrangement where you decide what kind of character you want to play and always pick one particular option, and the sections are all informatively and accurately named. Still, I hate them on principle. What happened to those old KOTOR/NWN2 dialogue MENUS, where you got to read each option in its entirety? Were they too much fun for modern publishers? It's not merely an idle complaint, the wheels restrict possibility because you can't have multiple options for action AND tone in any given conversation.
5. There was one point where it seemed like you might get to choose to side with the bad guys. I'm rather curious about that.
6. It's got a fallout-style outro. I always like those.
7. Combat was hardly difficult on the normal setting, made possible in part by fire-form Archon teleport spam. However, it was pretty fun.
8. The interface was developed with consoles in mind. I can tell. Notably, your attacks require the invocation of a mystery bullshit auto-lockon feature instead of using the cursor. You can select your target via right-clicking, which is also the movement key, except when you can't.
9. This game was made by Obsidian, but from the lack of bugs you'd think it was from Valve. I'm genuinely impressed. Apparently they did just need more time in the past.

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Post by Avoraciopoctules » Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:02 am

Having a lot of fun emulating the Ace Attorney series. Much more enjoyable with save states.
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Post by Blasted » Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:09 am

Playing through fallout tactics again, thanks to gog sale.
I only got to the second mission before realising I'd screwed up my char.
Now I get to begin again. I might read a faq or something to remind me of where the trap options are...

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Post by Cynic » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:04 am

Blicero: That's awesome.

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Post by name_here » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:06 pm

Heart of the Swarm has been announced. I like the look of it. Also, they backed off on the pricing; it's going to sell for $30-$40, not full game price.
MASSIVE WINGS OF LIBERTY SPOILERS:
Apparently Kerrigan got mostly deinfested, so while she still has some random zerg enhancements she's no longer a super-being or completely pyschotic. The story seems to be that she's got to beat the shit out of her former subordinates and recover her previous power levels to reunite the swarm to stand with the protoss and terrans against the hybrids. She will also appear in most/all missions and has a special upgrade tree
Also, each unit is going to have a mutually-exclusive pair of final upgrades that give them special abilities, along with nonexclusive prior upgrade options.

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Post by Count Arioch the 28th » Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:39 pm

Duke Nukem Forever is way too hard for me to even play, even on the easiest difficulty setting. I am getting tired of having 5-6 pigs teleporting right beside me, hitting me, and being blinded. I've put entire clips of shotgun blasts into their face and they aren't bothered noticeably, when they melee you the screen turns red and you can't see, and in this one room in the beginning I literally can't seem to get to where they stop spawning without dying.
Also, load screens are way to fucking long.
I'm taking this one back to the rental place earlier if I can't find out how to progress (the guides I've read make it out to be easy, I must really be terrible if that's the case).
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Post by Maxus » Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:18 am

So, I had twenty bucks to burn and ended up getting a points card for XBL.
I grabbed the Da Vinci Disappearance for Assassin's Creed Brotherhood.
I will summarize it for you.
"I'm sorry, Ezio, but the painting is in another castle."
Which, actually, it's better than that sounds. Gorgeous work here.
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Post by Meikle641 » Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:58 pm

So I bought Baldur's Gate from GOG, but I'm having some problems.
When I make a character it's fine until I get to name, where it then spews 6~ until filled, refusing to let me fix it. Originally I thought it was my fucked up keyboard, but after replacement it still does it
Then, when I go to play I can't scroll worth shit, even after messing with cursors settings or use the arrow keys. I've played the game before so I know it isn't supposed to work like this.
I've looked around the GOG site for Baldur's Gate but I haven't had any luck so far. These sorts of things don't happen with any of my other games. I've also tried resinstalling the game, but no dice. Ideas?
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Post by name_here » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:00 pm

Did you try completely redownloading, not just reinstalling from the original download? If you can't find any complaints it's likely a file corruption issue.

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Post by Psychic Robot » Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:45 pm

> So I bought Baldur's Gate from GOG, but I'm having some problems.

> I bought Baldur's Gate from GOG

> bought Baldur's Gate

fool of a took. definitely not worth paying for in this day and age. I have it on my computer but the advancement in games over the past fifteen years or so has made it unplayable. also 2e hates you and will rape your mother if you let him

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Post by CatharzGodfoot » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:20 pm

> Meikle641 wrote:So I bought Baldur's Gate from GOG, but I'm having some problems.
> When I make a character it's fine until I get to name, where it then spews 6~ until filled, refusing to let me fix it. Originally I thought it was my fucked up keyboard, but after replacement it still does it
> Then, when I go to play I can't scroll worth shit, even after messing with cursors settings or use the arrow keys. I've played the game before so I know it isn't supposed to work like this.
> I've looked around the GOG site for Baldur's Gate but I haven't had any luck so far. These sorts of things don't happen with any of my other games. I've also tried resinstalling the game, but no dice. Ideas?

What OS?
I too am using BG from GOG, and it works fine for me. But I suggest getting BG 2 and the fan mod that lets you play BG 1 in BG 2, as well as the one that uses BG 1 weapon proficiencies.
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Post by Meikle641 » Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:11 pm

Name_Here: I haven't tried re-downloading it yet, since it took around 12 hours, but you may be right. The installer said there was no corruption, but you could be right
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