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Post by Koumei » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:20 am

That's the nice thing about Age of Empires - you can win by building a Wonder, basically requiring you to go crazy with the building, resource gathering and tech advancements. Or you can go and kick the opponent in the face, it's more or less your call.

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Post by Starmaker » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:46 am

> DSMatticus wrote:I have tried so hard to break that habit. I want to be competitive at strategy games, but I always end up playing OCD perfectionist base/city/empire manager and going for the coolest things I can.

The campaigns in HoMM 2 helped me to partially overcome base-building OCD. Instead, I was restarting each map until I got a good (or, in the case of planned access to artifacts, the best) game state.
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Post by Koumei » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:50 am

HoMaM 2 was awesome. I just focused on getting access to dragons (which tended to involve building and researching an awful lot, but anything not required was ignored), then making mobs of those to trample the enemy with.
Actually I once made a huge fuck-off map that was all split up roughly like Earth in Risk. So you'd randomly control three different countries in different continents. It was extremely hard, what with being surrounded by enemies on all sides.

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Post by Maxus » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:07 am

Dark Souls:
Hey, DSMatticus, got any advice for cutting Kalameet's tail?
I managed a couple of hits. And what's bad is, I could kill him. Easily. If I weren't trying to cut off his tail.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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Post by DSMatticus » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:49 am

> Maxus wrote:Hey, DSMatticus, got any advice for cutting Kalameet's tail?

You're probably hitting too close. It has to be pretty far out. I can't remember the exact attack pattern, but do you recall how sometimes he will lift into the air and fly straight at you? If you are directly behind him when he lands, he will do a tailslam on the ground. Dodge the slam, hit the tail at least at the midway point or further out. Repeat until the tail pops off.
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Post by Maxus » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:32 am

Yeah, I got that worked out.
It's baiting the charge and managing to get behind him when he does it that messes me up.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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Post by name_here » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:59 pm

So, apparently some maniac let Karen Traviss write a Halo novel.
A major theme of the novel is people calling out Hasley for the SPARTAN-II program. Which people? Well, CPO Mendez, one of the people critical to the whole project, and the head of ONI, whose organization has committed crimes that would earn death sentences in five separate incidents that we know of.
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two incidents involving treason by violating the Cole Protocol, one of which almost let the Covenant find Earth and the other of which apparently actually did, one incident involving infecting prisoners with Flood and when that inevitably went to hell sending in a rescue ship while intentionally denying them information on the Flood, covering up Forerunner artifacts in human space that can pretty much be held directly responsible for the covenant finding the first Halo and Reach, and now one incident involving both treason and terrorism by arming a faction of elites who oppose the human-friendly faction that the provisional leader of the UNSC is negotiating with. Oh, and the head of ONI specifically greenlit the SPARTAN-III program, which was basically the SPARTAN-II program except with lower safety margins and not using flash clones to cover it up. Because apparently flash cloning is worse than the other things.
Basically, don't let Karen Traviss write a novel in your setting. It never ends well.

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Post by Aryxbez » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:20 pm

> Kaelik wrote:

> > Maxus wrote:But yeah. You're more or less playing a D&D Murder Hobo. You just roll around, exploring and getting stronger until you go fight something and open up more places to explore/get stronger. If that isn't your cup of tea, fair enough.

> Other games provide the same thing. But they do it in a less samey and grindy way.
> It's not that it is not some people's cup of tea, it is that it is a really grindy samey flavor of that tea.

I know this is going to sound like a dumb question, but what games did you have in mind that provide this experience?
Also K, have you considered FTL:Faster Than Light, Scifi Roguelike on a ship, =http://www.grimrock.net/Legend of Grimrock? I also recently heard about a good sum of games like: La-mulana, Pid, and since I'm talking platformers, I enjoyed Spelunky. Another super cheap Indie game I've enjoyed is Dead Pixels, and that'll just cost you the investment of One Dollar.
Oh, and Starmaker, I can see why you're quite excited for Primordia, the fact it'll have the narrator from Bastion ALONE makes it curious title to check out.
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Post by K » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:01 am

I'm looking at FTL. So far it seems the only new thing to come out of indie gaming.
Take Legend of Grimdark. It's an updated clone of a game I was playing in 1993.
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Post by PhoneLobster » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:43 am

The other new thing to come out of indie gaming.
Phonelobster's Self Proclaimed Greatest Hits Collection : (no really, they are awesome)
Phonelobster's Latest RPG Rule Set
The world's most definitive Star Wars Saga Edition Review
That Time I reviewed D20Modern Classes
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Australia is a horror setting thread
Phonelobster's totally legit history of the island of Malta
The utterly infamous Our Favourite Edition Is 2nd Edition thread
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Post by Blicero » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:18 am

Hotline Miami is another recent thing to come from the indie world. And it's fucking brilliant. Playing it properly makes you feel like a god of war.
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Post by Username17 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:26 am

> K wrote:I'm looking at FTL. So far it seems the only new thing to come out of indie gaming.
> Take Legend of Grimdark. It's an updated clone of a game I was playing in 1993.

FTL is nice. I have unlocked the Engi, the Rock, the Stealth, the Federation, and the Mantis Cruisers. Still missing the Zoltan and Crystal ships.
I'd really like to see expansions for the game. Seems like it wouldn't be terribly difficult.
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Post by Korgan0 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:04 am

Yeah, FTL is awesome, but it really needs more stuff. Eighteen or so weapons and the same number of ships is way too few for a proper roguelike, I think. Also, the Zoltan ship is pretty awesome- it starts with Blast Doors, which means it's pretty easy to kill boarders by just venting them into space.
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Post by Maxus » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:38 am

Dark Souls:
As Kevin Hearne once put it, I'm getting an acute case of Smug.
I decided to get the Guardian tail. A quick check online suggested strategies along the lines of "You must bait it into this high-damage, tough-to-dodge move and dodge it and hit its tail when its tail droops"
I said "Screw that noise" and bought 670 arrows and took potshots at the Guardians' tails.
It worked. Just had to be patient and learn their pattern once I'd found a safe spot to stand. Didn't take that many arrows, either. I think I spent 30-40. A lot of them misses before I got the timing down.
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He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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Post by DSMatticus » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:31 pm

> FrankTrollman wrote:

> > K wrote:I'm looking at FTL. So far it seems the only new thing to come out of indie gaming.
> > Take Legend of Grimdark. It's an updated clone of a game I was playing in 1993.

> FTL is nice. I have unlocked the Engi, the Rock, the Stealth, the Federation, and the Mantis Cruisers. Still missing the Zoltan and Crystal ships.
> I'd really like to see expansions for the game. Seems like it wouldn't be terribly difficult.
> -Username17

It is supposed to be fairly moddable, but I haven't messed with it. The only mods I'm aware of are new shipsets, and like Korgan said, it really needs more content.
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Post by Maxus » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:54 pm

Dark Souls:
Aaaaand I got Kalameet's tail. Once I cottoned on to a bit of spacing (when he dive-charges, roll once to dodge, twice to get behind him to provoke the tail-slam) it wasn't even that hard.
Now I can kill 'im.
Edit: aaand killed him first try after getting the tail!
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He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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Post by Surgo » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:33 pm

> name_here wrote:Basically, don't let Karen Traviss write a novel in your setting. It never ends well.

So you're saying it was a...travissty?
*puts on sunglasses*
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Post by Maxus » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:53 pm

> Surgo wrote:

> > name_here wrote:Basically, don't let Karen Traviss write a novel in your setting. It never ends well.

> So you're saying it was a...travissty?
> *puts on sunglasses*

OH THAT WAS TERRIBLE.
MY EYES.
YOU JACKASS.
He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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Post by Shrapnel » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:56 pm

> Surgo wrote:

> > name_here wrote:Basically, don't let Karen Traviss write a novel in your setting. It never ends well.

> So you're saying it was a...travissty?
> *puts on sunglasses*

Greatest. Pun. EVER.
I have to sig this.
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Post by Maxus » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:57 pm

> Shrapnel wrote:

> > Surgo wrote:

> > > name_here wrote:Basically, don't let Karen Traviss write a novel in your setting. It never ends well.

> > So you're saying it was a...travissty?
> > *puts on sunglasses*

> Greatest. Pun. EVER.

I dunno. I was reading a friend's short story--urban fantasy--and had an alchemist who made magic perfumes and candles and junk.
The aphrodisiac perfume was named "Eau You Are So Hot."
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He jumps like a damned dragoon, and charges into battle fighting rather insane monsters with little more than his bare hands and rather nasty spell effects conjured up solely through knowledge and the local plantlife. He unerringly knows where his goal lies, he breathes underwater and is untroubled by space travel, seems to have no limits to his actual endurance and favors killing his enemies by driving both boots square into their skull. His agility is unmatched, and his strength legendary, able to fling about a turtle shell big enough to contain a man with enough force to barrel down a near endless path of unfortunates.
--The horror of Mario
Zak S, Zak Smith, Dndwithpornstars, Zak Sabbath. He is a terrible person and a hack at writing and art. His cultural contributions are less than Justin Bieber's, and he's a shitmuffin. Go go gadget Googlebomb!
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Post by Shrapnel » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:00 pm

Also great. Puns are food stuff of the soul.
Darth Rabbitt may disagree, but he's the "soul" exception. hee hee
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Post by Darth Rabbitt » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:15 pm

Shame on you all.

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Post by Chamomile » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:49 pm

"Travissty" is the go-to phrase for whenever Traviss screws something up. The pun has been making the rounds in the Star Wars fanbase for so long and so thoroughly that I've osmosed it even though I'm not even in that fanbase.
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Post by Darth Rabbitt » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:02 am

I've heard it before too; I was referring to the others.

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Post by Shrapnel » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:13 am

Hah. Jokes on you, I have no shame! HAHAHAHAHA!
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