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Post by Longes » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:33 pm

Well, turns out you need Windows 10 for Quantum Break. Guess that's a game I'm never playing.
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Post by OgreBattle » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:32 am

> maglag wrote: Meanwhile FFT has craploads of boring numbers maintenance with armor and acessories and fuck that noise.

They had a class dedicated to people who love that sort of thing:
It was non-intrusive enough though that I largely ignored CT and zodiacs while Ramza screamed his way across the battlefield taking 6 actions in a row with dual knight swords.
[Weapon Triangle]
What bugs me about it is... I think sword vs spear vs axe isn't an interesting distinction and it restricts character designs in some way.
If it was like "Shield<2h sword/axe/mace < polearm <shield" then you can have pollaxes and hand axes and great axes.
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Post by maglag » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:41 am

> OgreBattle wrote:

> > maglag wrote: Meanwhile FFT has craploads of boring numbers maintenance with armor and acessories and fuck that noise.

> They had a class dedicated to people who love that sort of thing

I may be amused if the game itself had any idea what to do with them.
But since bot calculators can and will waste their turns casting Exp3gain, clearly the devs themselves had no idea what they were doing.
I guess some people will enjoy "Final Fantasy: Job Simulator", but I kinda prefer tactics games.

> OgreBattle wrote: [Weapon Triangle]
> What bugs me about it is... I think sword vs spear vs axe isn't an interesting distinction and it restricts character designs in some way.
> If it was like "Shield<2h sword/axe/mace < polearm <shield" then you can have pollaxes and hand axes and great axes.

Hand axes in FE can be used at range. The Halberd is super effective against mounted units, and great axes have great base damage in return for crappy acuraccy.
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Post by RelentlessImp » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:11 am

> maglag wrote:But since bot calculators can and will waste their turns casting Exp3gain, clearly the devs themselves had no idea what they were doing.
> I guess some people will enjoy "Final Fantasy: Job Simulator", but I kinda prefer tactics games.

This might have weight if your complaint wasn't against the AI, which even in your precious Fire Emblem games is supremely exploitable. But then again, if you enjoyed "tactics games", you'd know this, and you'd be arguing in bad faith with that little snide remark, making you a lying dumbfuck. Thankfully, with your derail of another thread, we already know you're a lying dumbfuck. Thanks for further evidence.
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Post by icyshadowlord » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:56 pm

So Dark Souls III is out, but Final Fantasy XIV has more or less consumed my soul.
Holy shit, that game is just so much better than the rotting corpse that is World of Warcraft right now.
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Post by Archmage Joda » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:41 pm

> icyshadowlord wrote:So Dark Souls III is out, but Final Fantasy XIV has more or less consumed my soul.
> Holy shit, that game is just so much better than the rotting corpse that is World of Warcraft right now.

...Are you me?
But seriously, I've been playing the crap out of FFXIV lately, what server are you on and what class/job are you playing?
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Post by Maxus » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:12 pm

Dark Souls 3 is indeed out out, but I've been holding off on it because I feel it pulling at me like a dark pit, and I've been needing to get stuff done around the house.
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Post by Kaelik » Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:28 pm

Dark Souls 3 has too many poisonous swamps.
There are "two" entire areas that are just poisonous swamps.
There are "two" areas that have poisonous swamps to some degree. One of them has a big old chunk of the level made up of it. (Though admittedly, it's a small area).
There is another area that might be entirely poisonous, or just mostly, I'm exploring it now.

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Post by Longes » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:40 pm

Swamps are the sewer levels of Dark Souls. I'm on the Farron's Keep currently.
Still, I'm enjoying the game quite a bit even though it runs like shit on my PC. Can't say I like magic all that much. I'm playing a pyromancer, and I use the sword most of the time. Combustion's range is just so tiny.
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Post by MisterDee » Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:40 pm

Yeah, after going through Blighttown and Sen's Fortress, I'll be happy if I never see another "trudge through sludge" environment again. The poison effect I could endure, but the movement restrictions...
(Incidentally - I didn't see what the big deal was with Sen's Fortress. Sure, platforming challenges aren't fun in 3D, and the early parts are really "proceed to X, die to a SURPRISE SNAKE!, get back to X, kill the SURPRISE SNAKE!, proceed to Y, die to a SURPRISE SNAKE!, repeat ad nauseam", but on the other hand, I managed to make my way deeper with nearly every iteration.
And the walk up to the Iron Golem was blissfully free of enemies. And the walk to the Anor Londo bonfire was pleasant (although I kept an eye out for SURPRISE SNAKE!)
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Post by Kaelik » Sat Apr 16, 2016 3:53 pm

> MisterDee wrote:(Incidentally - I didn't see what the big deal was with Sen's Fortress. Sure, platforming challenges aren't fun in 3D, and the early parts are really "proceed to X, die to a SURPRISE SNAKE!, get back to X, kill the SURPRISE SNAKE!, proceed to Y, die to a SURPRISE SNAKE!, repeat ad nauseam", but on the other hand, I managed to make my way deeper with nearly every iteration.

The primary things that make a good platformer are: 1) responsive well executed movement and jumping controls, 2) level design.
Dark Souls doesn't have 1 (Specifically, it's jumping is fucking terrible). It is not a very good platformer.
Sen's Fortress has arbitrary death trap on bridges with snakes shooting at you. If you don't have ranged weapons, there is literally one bridge that is impossible to cross. So if you play Dark Souls as a guy with a sword, you have to pull out your zero damage bow and plink for a 4 minutes to kill some snakes to make an attempt at the death trap run to hopefully not die.
But yeah... In DS 3, you will want to pull out a dagger, and two hand it, and use it's weapon art as a short jump to bypass the otherwise crippling movement restrictions in the 6 swamp sections, 2 oh which are like, the entire goddam level is swamp.
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> DSMatticus wrote:Kaelik gonna kaelik. Whatcha gonna do?

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Post by Longes » Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:16 pm

> MisterDee wrote:Yeah, after going through Blighttown and Sen's Fortress, I'll be happy if I never see another "trudge through sludge" environment again. The poison effect I could endure, but the movement restrictions...

Farron's Keep in DS3 can suck my pustulent petrified poison-filled cock. Also goddamn giant enemy crabs.
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Post by icyshadowlord » Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:13 pm

> Archmage Joda wrote:

> > icyshadowlord wrote:So Dark Souls III is out, but Final Fantasy XIV has more or less consumed my soul.
> > Holy shit, that game is just so much better than the rotting corpse that is World of Warcraft right now.

> ...Are you me?
> But seriously, I've been playing the crap out of FFXIV lately, what server are you on and what class/job are you playing?

The server is Midgardsormr (the Data Center is Aether) , and my main is a Warrior. I'm already at level 60, with an average ilvl of 209, but I've been wanting to level up something else so I can do more than just tank.
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> virgil wrote:And has been successfully proven with Pathfinder, you can just say you improved the system from 3E without doing so and many will believe you to the bitter end.

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Post by Kaelik » Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:18 pm

In "Dark Souls 3 Fucks You in the Ass" news. Did you know that the old lady dies in one hit, so if you say, alt tab out of the game to do something else, and then click on the game to get your controller to work again, and your character decides that the click on the game that gave you a functioning controller was also meant to be an R1 attack, then you can just kill her and not have her for the rest of that playthrough. You know, the lady that sells upgrade materials...
Fuck you dark souls.

> DSMatticus wrote:Kaelik gonna kaelik. Whatcha gonna do?

The U.S. isn't a democracy and if you think it is, you are a rube.
That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves.
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Post by icyshadowlord » Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:42 pm

That's balls, though I've been more concerned with the amount of glitches I keep hearing about.
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> virgil wrote:And has been successfully proven with Pathfinder, you can just say you improved the system from 3E without doing so and many will believe you to the bitter end.

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Post by DSMatticus » Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:49 pm

The original Dark Souls had the same problem. I believe some NPC deaths even broke progression on release.
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Post by Longes » Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:52 pm

> Kaelik wrote:In "Dark Souls 3 Fucks You in the Ass" news. Did you know that the old lady dies in one hit, so if you say, alt tab out of the game to do something else, and then click on the game to get your controller to work again, and your character decides that the click on the game that gave you a functioning controller was also meant to be an R1 attack, then you can just kill her and not have her for the rest of that playthrough. You know, the lady that sells upgrade materials...
> Fuck you dark souls.

Do you mean old dear Shrine Handmaid? She respawns, but raises prices each time you kill her. Everyone else drops ashes, which move that character's inventory to the handmaid.
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Post by Kaelik » Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:15 pm

WAIT REALLY! FUCK YES.
How much does she raise prices?

> DSMatticus wrote:Kaelik gonna kaelik. Whatcha gonna do?

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Post by Longes » Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:36 pm

> Kaelik wrote:WAIT REALLY! FUCK YES.
> How much does she raise prices?

20%.
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Post by Kaelik » Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:00 pm

That's a pretty steep price for alt tabbing in firelink shrine, but it's better than what I thought. You do have to travel somewhere else and travel back though, not just rest at the bonfire to respawn her.

> DSMatticus wrote:Kaelik gonna kaelik. Whatcha gonna do?

The U.S. isn't a democracy and if you think it is, you are a rube.
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Post by Archmage Joda » Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:25 am

> icyshadowlord wrote:

> > Archmage Joda wrote:

> > > icyshadowlord wrote:So Dark Souls III is out, but Final Fantasy XIV has more or less consumed my soul.
> > > Holy shit, that game is just so much better than the rotting corpse that is World of Warcraft right now.

> > ...Are you me?
> > But seriously, I've been playing the crap out of FFXIV lately, what server are you on and what class/job are you playing?

> The server is Midgardsormr (the Data Center is Aether) , and my main is a Warrior. I'm already at level 60, with an average ilvl of 209, but I've been wanting to level up something else so I can do more than just tank.

I actually have a character on that same server, also a warrior (albeit only at 50), and I've been leveling pugilist a bit so I can do other than tank, as I've been feeling a tad burnt out on tanking lately.
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Post by PhoneLobster » Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:13 am

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3) It's eating a lot more of my time than most computer games do these days.
4) I would NOT have, had you asked me, said that what original X-Com needed was a post apocalyptic sequel that was equal parts X-Com and Macho Women With Guns. Nor would I have suggested that what Macho Women With Guns needed was a ludicrously complex global production management and turn based piracy game with stupidly complex and detailed content, factions and lore based off the X-Com franchise as a whole. But I'll be damned if it doesn't REALLY work.
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Post by Meikle641 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:42 am

Started a trial of FF 14. Liking it so far, but then again I have no MMORPG experience to compare it to. Playing on Primal data center as a Thaumaturgist.
On a related note, I have 2 extra keys for FF 14 I can make a deal on.
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Post by RelentlessImp » Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:53 am

Man, I wish you guys were over on Balmung so I could be less bored. Playing alone sucks.
As a side note, Rockstar's automated banning system is still banning people from GTA Online for literally no reason.
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Post by Archmage Joda » Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:15 am

> RelentlessImp wrote:Man, I wish you guys were over on Balmung so I could be less bored. Playing alone sucks.

Probably because new character creation on Balmung is nigh-undoable because it's already full most of the time, being a legacy server and all.
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