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Lago PARANOIA
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Post by Lago PARANOIA » Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:04 pm

1.) How did pre-industrial China get to have a much, much larger population than other pre-industrial civilizations?
2.) What exactly was the point of the original Kulturkampf? I've heard three separate, confusing stories: the first being a modernization of German government, the other being a misguided attempt to clamp down on socialists, and the last being a misguided attempt to neuter the Catholic Church.

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Post by Koumei » Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:19 pm

Well, I can't explain population density, but take a look at a map. China, like the USA, is big enough that when trying to do an apples-to-apples comparison with European countries, you basically have to compare it to all of Europe at once. Or break it into smaller chunks, such as "the area held by Shu" (which would still be more than just Britain or France). It's big, so it had an easy time having "lots of people" in it.

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Post by name_here » Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:41 pm

China also had merit-based civil service before it was cool. They could do major civil engineering projects and ship food properly. In Europe, not so much. Rome was better than the medieval period, but nevertheless amazingly fucked by modern standards. We're talking elected officials having to pay for government projects out of their own pockets levels of bad.

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Post by angelfromanotherpin » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:55 am

> Lago PARANOIA wrote:What exactly was the point of the original Kulturkampf? I've heard three separate, confusing stories: the first being a modernization of German government, the other being a misguided attempt to clamp down on socialists, and the last being a misguided attempt to neuter the Catholic Church.

My short answer is that there were two anticlerical parties in the Reichstag, and Bismarck was using the issue to manage their support for his agenda.
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Post by Blicero » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:52 am

There is some kind of interesting discussion of China's population in this reddit thread. http://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/c ... ously_had/
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Post by fectin » Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:07 am

TED talk answering China's population:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYaj8aqkdbA

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Post by OgreBattle » Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:42 am

> Lago PARANOIA wrote:1.) How did pre-industrial China get to have a much, much larger population than other pre-industrial civilizations?

Early advances in agriculture. I wrote an answer on it on Quora with a gloating tone here:
http://www.quora.com/What-aspect-of-Chi ... e-Chaisiri
But to sum it up some important inventions were the seed drill, moldboard plough, blast furnace for mass production of iron tools, horse harnesses that didn't choke horses. The soil quality was also good throughout southern China.
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