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violence in the media
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Post by violence in the media » Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:37 pm

In that they're equally contentious topics, I'm guessing.
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Post by For Valor » Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:42 am

> Vnonymous wrote:All I can gather from the various arguments is that women are centaurs.
> Personally I'm in favour of lifting the ban and simply creating a few "free for all" threads in MPSIMS that are unmoderated save for posts/chains of posts that actually disrupt the workings of the forums.
> Of course, in order to stop this from spilling into the rest of the forums you'd want to have some sort of forced anonymity thing for those threads...
> Maybe a forum where the username field is invisible to people who aren't moderators, for all of those heated discussions?

People have pointed out reasoning against this before.
a) You can identify people by their literary voice, so invisible usernames doesn't help all that much
b) One of the biggest problems is people getting pissed. No usernames won't help with that.
c) That means more work...
d) People like Frank totally put their name in every post they make. You cannot stop people from advertising their name just to be an asshat.

> Mask wrote:And for the love of all that is good and unholy, just get a fucking hippogrif mount and pretend its a flying worg.

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Post by fbmf » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:47 pm

[The Great Fence Builder Speaks]
The ban is hereby lifted, but management reserves the right to put it back into effect at our discretion.
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Mask_De_H
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Post by Mask_De_H » Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:48 pm

> Vnonymous wrote: Of course, in order to stop this from spilling into the rest of the forums you'd want to have some sort of forced anonymity thing for those threads...
> Maybe a forum where the username field is invisible to people who aren't moderators, for all of those heated discussions?

Dude, have you been on /b/ or /r9k/ lately? That's a terrible idea; especially since as FV pointed out we know how everybody writes. It would do nothing but make more work for no benefit.

> FrankTrollman wrote: Halfling women, as I'm sure you are aware, combine all the "fun" parts of pedophilia without any of the disturbing, illegal, or immoral parts.

> K wrote:That being said, the usefulness of airships for society is still transporting cargo because it's an option that doesn't require a powerful wizard to show up for work on time instead of blowing the day in his harem of extraplanar sex demons/angels.

> Chamomile wrote: See, it's because K's belief in leaving generation of individual monsters to GMs makes him Chaotic, whereas Frank's belief in the easier usability of monsters pre-generated by game designers makes him Lawful, and clearly these philosophies are so irreconcilable as to be best represented as fundamentally opposed metaphysical forces.

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Post by Maj » Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:19 am

> fbmf wrote:[The Great Fence Builder Speaks]
> The ban is hereby lifted, but management reserves the right to put it back into effect at our discretion.
> [/TGFBS]

Was the requirement for a politics tag on posts ever firmly decided?
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Post by fbmf » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:48 pm

[The Great Fence Builder Speaks]
Let's go with a politics tag.
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Post by Draco_Argentum » Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:51 am

Some form of software enforced block on multiposting would probably fix things.
An annoying poster can be ignored. A spammer can't even with ignore. As Elennsar showed once a thread is taken over its rendered useless for everyone else. If we could stop one person from taking a thread over we'd be well out in front.
One of TDG's selling points is the small post rate, it lets you have a say on a topic rather than getting lost in the other 300 posts today.
A post frequency limit might even force people to write better posts since it would turn a post into a limited resource that you wouldn't want to waste on an ill thought out reply that won't convince anyone.
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Post by Kaelik » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:38 pm

> Draco_Argentum wrote:Some form of software enforced block on multiposting would probably fix things.
> An annoying poster can be ignored. A spammer can't even with ignore. As Elennsar showed once a thread is taken over its rendered useless for everyone else. If we could stop one person from taking a thread over we'd be well out in front.
> One of TDG's selling points is the small post rate, it lets you have a say on a topic rather than getting lost in the other 300 posts today.
> A post frequency limit might even force people to write better posts since it would turn a post into a limited resource that you wouldn't want to waste on an ill thought out reply that won't convince anyone.

I don't think a post frequency limit is a good idea.
It's seems impossible to balance it so that one person posting no where else can't take over a thread, but that people who post in multiple forums under multiple discussions all at the same time (like, on their lunch break) wouldn't be hampered.
Seems better to just say "Fuck you, you are the last post in this thread, so you can't post, go edit your last post."

> DSMatticus wrote:Kaelik gonna kaelik. Whatcha gonna do?

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Post by Juton » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:31 pm

I kind of like the idea of blocking double posts, partly because every one's internet connection goes bad from time-to-time and partly because it will cut down on spamming. But to reduce spam we'd have to punish sock-puppeting, I have no problem with that, but is that something the community would agree to?
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Post by Kaelik » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:47 pm

Actually, problem with double post blocks.
All the Tomes, and a fair number of "designing X" thread are doubleposterific.
Maybe allow it until someone else has posted in the thread? Not sure how hard that would be.
Though frankly, I'm not terribly upset about how it is now.

> DSMatticus wrote:Kaelik gonna kaelik. Whatcha gonna do?

The U.S. isn't a democracy and if you think it is, you are a rube.
That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves.
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Post by ubernoob » Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:34 pm

> Kaelik wrote:Actually, problem with double post blocks.
> All the Tomes, and a fair number of "designing X" thread are doubleposterific.
> Maybe allow it until someone else has posted in the thread? Not sure how hard that would be.

I was thinking the same thing.
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Post by IGTN » Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:40 pm

> ubernoob wrote:

> > Kaelik wrote:Actually, problem with double post blocks.
> > All the Tomes, and a fair number of "designing X" thread are doubleposterific.
> > Maybe allow it until someone else has posted in the thread? Not sure how hard that would be.

> I was thinking the same thing.

Alternately, if it's easy to program it that way, the double-post blocker might check which subforum you're in, and allow double-posts in IMOI (possibly only for the original poster).
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Post by Kaelik » Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:31 pm

> IGTN wrote:

> > ubernoob wrote:

> > > Kaelik wrote:Actually, problem with double post blocks.
> > > All the Tomes, and a fair number of "designing X" thread are doubleposterific.
> > > Maybe allow it until someone else has posted in the thread? Not sure how hard that would be.

> > I was thinking the same thing.

> Alternately, if it's easy to program it that way, the double-post blocker might check which subforum you're in, and allow double-posts in IMOI (possibly only for the original poster).

Well, the Tomes, along with for example Tiers and Levels, are in HO

> DSMatticus wrote:Kaelik gonna kaelik. Whatcha gonna do?

The U.S. isn't a democracy and if you think it is, you are a rube.
That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves.
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Post by Roy » Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:07 pm

The doubleposting only occurs due to post length limits. If that were raised the problem would go away. I don't think the Den has ever had a problem with super long spam posts.

> Draco_Argentum wrote:

> > Mister_Sinister wrote:Clearly, your cock is part of the big barrel the server's busy sucking on.

> Can someone tell it to stop using its teeth please?

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> Koumei wrote:Shad, please just punch yourself in the face until you are too dizzy to type. I would greatly appreciate that.

> Kaelik wrote:No, bad liar. Stop lying.

Standard Paizil Fare/Fail (SPF) Type I - doing exactly the opposite of what they said they would do.
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Post by Koumei » Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:37 pm

> Kaelik wrote: Seems better to just say "Fuck you, you are the last post in this thread, so you can't post, go edit your last post."

I like this idea - particularly if it's possible to multipost until the point where someone replies, allowing for things like the Tomes or whatever where several massive posts are put up in a row, but people can't reply individually to four other people in a row in the one thread.
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Post by Maj » Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:34 am

Petty whine:
Would it please be possible to delete the announcement at the top of the boards? It makes me have to scroll down on the main page.
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Post by fbmf » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:02 pm

Sure.
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Post by JonSetanta » Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:35 pm

> Vnonymous wrote: Personally I'm in favour of lifting the ban and simply creating a few "free for all" threads in MPSIMS that are unmoderated save for posts/chains of posts that actually disrupt the workings of the forums.
> Of course, in order to stop this from spilling into the rest of the forums you'd want to have some sort of forced anonymity thing for those threads...
> Maybe a forum where the username field is invisible to people who aren't moderators, for all of those heated discussions?

I just noticed this post.
Fuck this and fuck you. Militant /b/tards go back where they belong.

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Post by Kaelik » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:47 pm

It also wouldn't work because Frank would actually end posts with
-Username17
without even thinking about it.
And, like I explained before, anyone who can read flying monkey fuck and not realize they are reading me is fucking retarded.

> DSMatticus wrote:Kaelik gonna kaelik. Whatcha gonna do?

The U.S. isn't a democracy and if you think it is, you are a rube.
That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves.
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