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Post by tzor » Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:31 pm

Is this the point where I laugh maniacally about Crissa supporting some rabid left wing terrorist group that uses sex to promote their message? Small steps? Big steps? How about these steps!

> Animal lovers worldwide now have access to more than a decade’s worth of proof that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) kills thousands of defenseless pets at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. Since 1998, PETA has opted to “put down” 21,339 adoptable dogs, cats, puppies, and kittens instead of finding homes for them.
> PETA’s “Animal Record” report for 2008, filed with the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, shows that the animal rights group killed 95 percent of the dogs and cats in its care last year. During all of 2008, PETA found adoptive homes for just seven pets.

Got to admit those seven pets were real keepers.
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Post by Zherog » Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:35 pm

I'm not a PETA fan, but... tzor, could you post a link to the source of your quote please?
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Post by Lich-Loved » Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:49 pm

> Zherog wrote:I'm not a PETA fan, but... tzor, could you post a link to the source of your quote please?

I thought this was well known, though the media isn't too keen on reporting this sort of thing for some odd reason. Here is something I found quickly. The numbers are from 2006, so they don't match the ones quoted above for 2008, but they still killed 25-30% of the animals they took in.I don't really think it is debatable that they kill animals. Sure they are hypocritical, but just in the every day comical sense, not in some dark, Orwellian way.
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Post by Meikle641 » Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:45 pm

On a related note: Sea Kittens. Right.
The Encyclopedia Dramatica's entry on it is pretty awesome, but you people can find that by yourselves.
So, just what are the requirements for something to be unethical to eat? IIRC, some plants communicate via pheromones or something when attacked, causing their neighbours to produce a mild toxin in their leaves. Obviously not all plants do such a thing, but if they did, would PETA just not care, since they're not animals?
EDIT: Okay, I'm being a bit unfair here. I'm well aware of the problems with industrialized fishing and all that. But just the same, fuck their campaign. People are still gonna find a way to eat fish.
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Post by tzor » Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:57 pm

> Zherog wrote:I'm not a PETA fan, but... tzor, could you post a link to the source of your quote please?

Google PETA, it's the third link PETA Kills Animals
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Post by tzor » Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:03 pm

> Meikle641 wrote:On a related note: Sea Kittens. Right.

NPR Article about PETA's "Sea Kittens"
PETA Attempts To Make Fish More Adorable
by Anne Hillman

> "PETA thought that by renaming fish sea kittens, compassionate people who would never dream of hurting a dog or a cat might extend that sympathy to fish, or sea kittens," PETA campaign coordinator Ashley Byrne says.

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Post by Judging__Eagle » Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:41 pm

Mmmmmmm.
Delicious Kittens.
Will they be selling ground puppies next? Please, pleese, pweeze?
Much like Nibbler, I love puppies.
Fish are clever creatures. All the more reason to consume their delicious flesh. Mmmmmh, delicious cruelty.
What's next? Babies? From what I understand, from interviews of south asian cannibals, that baby tastes an awful lot like sea kitten.
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Post by Count Arioch the 28th » Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:49 pm

Dude, did PETA steal something from South Park?
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Post by Zherog » Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:03 pm

> Lich-Loved wrote:

> > Zherog wrote:I'm not a PETA fan, but... tzor, could you post a link to the source of your quote please?

> I thought this was well known, though the media isn't too keen on reporting this sort of thing for some odd reason. Here is something I found quickly. The numbers are from 2006, so they don't match the ones quoted above for 2008, but they still killed 25-30% of the animals they took in.I don't really think it is debatable that they kill animals. Sure they are hypocritical, but just in the every day comical sense, not in some dark, Orwellian way.

I had never heard it before, but that's probably because I treat PETA as a fringe group and ignore pretty much everything about them. My request for the source was more to do with my anal retentive need to attribute quotes to their source.
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Post by Crissa » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:07 pm

Strangely, the website doesn't indicate if that was the year they took in tens of thousands of injured guinea pigs from one home or not. It's not like when they're involved, they pick up the ones the local shelters will take in...
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Post by Prak » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:24 am

> Judging__Eagle wrote:Mmmmmmm.
> Delicious Kittens.
> Will they be selling ground puppies next? Please, pleese, pweeze?
> Much like Nibbler, I love puppies.
> Fish are clever creatures. All the more reason to consume their delicious flesh. Mmmmmh, delicious cruelty.
> What's next? Babies? From what I understand, from interviews of south asian cannibals, that baby tastes an awful lot like sea kitten.

Funny you should mention that, JE, ever hear of a story called "Baby Cakes"?
(Warning: Neil Gaiman wrote this for PETA, and it includes PETA's usual overly detailed graphic descriptions of animal cruelty)
Baby Cakes
A few years back, all the animals went away.
We woke up in the morning, and they just weren't there anymore. They didn't even leave us a note, or say goodbye. We never figured out quite where they'd gone.
We missed them.
Some of us thought that the world had ended, but it hadn't. There just weren't anymore animals. No cats or rabbits, no dogs or whales, no fish in the seas, no birds in the skies.
We were alone.
We didn't know what to do.
We wandered around lost, for a time, and then someone pointed out that just because we didn't have animals anymore, that was no reason to change our lives. No reason to change our diets or cease testing products that might cause us harm.
After all, there were still babies.
Babies can't talk. They can hardly move. A baby is not a rational, thinking creature.
We made babies.
And we used them.
Some of them we ate. Baby flesh is tender and succulent.
We flayed their skin and decorated ourselves in it. Baby leather is soft and comfortable.
Some of them we tested.
We taped their eyes, dripped detergents and shampoos in, a drop at a time.
We scarred them and scalded them. We burnt them. We clamped them and planted electrodes into their brains. We grafted, and we froze, and we irradiated.
The babies breathed our smoke, and the babies' veins flowed with our medicines and drugs, until they stopped breathing or until their blood ceased to flow.
It was hard, of course, but it was necessary.
No one could deny that.
With the animals gone, what else could we do?
Some people complained, of course. But then, they always do.
And everything went back to normal.
Only...
Yesterday, all the babies were gone.
We don't know where they went. We didn't even see them go.
We don't know what we're going to do without them.
But we'll think of something. Humans are smart. It's what makes us superior to the animals and the babies.
We'll figure something out.
Gaiman actually created it as a comic, this is just a transcription from someone's livejournal. I can't find the comic, not surprisingly, I'd bet Peta has a certain lifespan for it's more disturbing, depressing, and crazy propaganda, after which they pull it from their own use and make tracking it down harder for their detractors.
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Post by Avoraciopoctules » Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:53 am

Sometimes food reteaches me humility. Today my father and I were having lunch at our favorite Thai restaurant. I ordered the same thing as him. It's really nice food, but one of the spicier dishes. He's had more time to build up a tolerance, but I was feeling somewhat impetuous after learning that I actually enjoyed a brand of hot sauce I'd previously been pretty leery of. In a bit of a macho move, I decided to chew up the biggest chunk of pepper I could find on the plate.
On average, Jalapeños are not as spicy as the really crazy stuff. Habaneros are much nastier. But you should never chew up the seeds in a spicy pepper if you aren't ready for the sensation of having your tongue catch fire, and there's a lot of variance in spice level between peppers. It took like 3 or 4 glasses of water and 1 ice tea with milk before I could really continue eating, and I stayed well clear of the peppers for the rest of the meal. On the upside, it definitely helped me decongest after helping to clean a really dusty house. And the food was delicious once I could taste it again.
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Post by RobbyPants » Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:29 am

The Thai restaurant I go to lets you pick between 1 and 10 on spicy. I always get a 2 or 3. I know my limits.
My coworker tends to get an 8 or 9 and then add stuff on top.
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