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Post by LeadPal » Sat May 18, 2013 12:52 am

Let's have a Touhou thread. What's the worst that could happen?
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Post by Korgan0 » Sat May 18, 2013 12:55 am

man i don't even know what touhou is but i've spent enough time on teegee to know this is a bad idea
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Post by Sigil » Sat May 18, 2013 1:00 am

All that I know about touhou I've learned from I Wanna Be the Guy fangames. This amounts to: touhou characters shoot cherries, they are accompanied by music, they are fearsome foes.
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Post by Vebyast » Sun May 19, 2013 2:03 am

The most I know about touhou is that the series has some really great music. I have a few of the soundtracks in my library.

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Post by Koumei » Sun May 19, 2013 2:27 am

It's a series of Bullet Hell (see: Raiden) games, with a cult following. As is often the case, the intensity of the fans makes it seem more widespread than it actually is. The games are Nintendo Hard (relying on reflexes and pattern recognition/memorisation, as well as general awareness of everything that is happening around you), with good music and a silly. funny story line to them. The characters are both over the top and cute.
They also have many Flash games, the majority of which are not Bullet Hell. Examples I can think of:
[*]Suppository Sniper (yes, you have to shoot suppositories up their asses)
[*]Doors-and-trampolines (enemy avoider + item collector)
[*]CIRNO MATH CHALLENGE! (you need to pick the wrong answer, unless the correct answer is nine)
[*]Pattern-trace/mouse-flick "get your damage on one attack as high as possible"
[*]Balance the gems on the wings
There are also short anime clips (fan-made) and AMVs, as well as a huge amount of fan-manga and 4-panel comics. Also, there's a Flash "game" that basically acts as a template system to make your own comics of them.

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Post by Guyr Adamantine » Sun May 19, 2013 3:17 am

Also, there's touhou fanart for any situation, no matter how convoluted. It's like a specialised version of rule 34.
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Post by tussock » Sun May 19, 2013 6:38 am

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Touhou_Power_Cards
All the 4e you'll ever want to see, often lacking errata. Would actually be handy for 3e spells and conditions and so on, but I suppose all the Touhoufags Touhou fans play 4e D&D, and love it. Plus, they'd do it for Pathfinder, so never mind.
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Post by LeadPal » Sun May 19, 2013 7:38 am

> Guyr Adamantine wrote:Also, there's touhou fanart for any situation, no matter how convoluted. It's like a specialised version of rule 34.

I'd like to emphasize how good Touhou's music is. Touhou's music is so popular that ZUN, the creator of Touhou, is credited as composer on at least 4400 albums. I'm not making that up to impress you, that's the actual number. And it's rising. Some albums are amateurish and terrible, of course, but a surprising number are seriously awesome. As much as I like just about everything Touhou, I still spend more time listening to arrangements than anything.
As an introduction to the actual games, I recommend Imperishable Night; it's relatively easy, and has lots of playable characters and features. Or, if you like fighting games, try Scarlet Weather Rhapsody--it's like Street Fighter with girls and lasers.
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Post by icyshadowlord » Mon May 20, 2013 10:14 am

I was wondering when a thread like this would pop up.
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Post by JigokuBosatsu » Mon May 20, 2013 10:29 pm

I don't even understand the 4400 albums thing. I mean, I've written and recorded an album in a month's time, and it was okay. I could churn out a shitty album in less than a day if I felt like it. Even aleatoric music takes time to render and arrange.
After a cursory glance, I see a bunch of compilations, so that makes a little more sense. But still, even 95% of those credits were just comps/remixes/reissues, that's still what we in the biz like to call "a living fucktonne of albums."

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Post by Avoraciopoctules » Mon May 20, 2013 10:42 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-TCrSrwer0
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Post by Antumbra » Tue May 21, 2013 3:52 am

> JigokuBosatsu wrote:I don't even understand the 4400 albums thing. I mean, I've written and recorded an album in a month's time, and it was okay. I could churn out a shitty album in less than a day if I felt like it. Even aleatoric music takes time to render and arrange.
> After a cursory glance, I see a bunch of compilations, so that makes a little more sense. But still, even 95% of those credits were just comps/remixes/reissues, that's still what we in the biz like to call "a living fucktonne of albums."

Most of those are done by fans - ZUN has a very generous policy regarding derivative works and doesn't mind people selling them for money.
From that link, his actual discography is 30 titles - which is still very good, especially when you consider that he composes, programs, draws and writes all his games solo and has a full time job. I assume - it might be much simpler than it sounds in my head.
There's a thriving doujin market - similar range of amateurish to amazing - and quite a few games that go beyond just flash stuff... Touhouvania, Touhoumon, Touhou Mother (Earthbound crossover), at least four top-down RPGs, a dozen puzzle games, Touhou Soccer, MegaMari (Mario Bros), a 3D dogfighter, one pretty solid 3D platformer where you run around as Youmu and cut up everything...
Just about the only thing he's not keen on are anime adaptations because they'd take attention away from the actual games and music, as well as make him clear up the deliberately vague plotlines and multiple endings.
As I was just giving another friend a guide to the music last week, here's the generic links I gave him - they've a diverse collection of quality arrangements - the originals are certainly worth checking out as well:
http://www.youtube.com/user/KakashiMr
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA5669D719C807722
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Post by nockermensch » Wed May 22, 2013 10:24 pm

So, how excited is the Den about Reitaisai 10 this weekend? Nitori and Koishi for the fighting game came were completely unexpected, and for the regular danmaku game, Sakuya makes her comeback!
I should stop playing roguelikes and try to win UFO on normal. Fuck Shou.
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Post by LeadPal » Fri May 24, 2013 7:04 am

Fightan gaems... eh. But I'm all over Double Dealing Character. Also, a lot of interesting albums have been announced. In particular I'm looking forward to The Flames Of The Inferno; I haven't liked CROW'SCLAW's last few releases, but I think this might make up for them.

> nockermensch wrote: I should stop playing roguelikes and try to win UFO on normal. Fuck Shou.

I've beaten it, but I have no suggestions for Shou. Shou is a real fucker.
Lately I've been trying to earn my first Lunatic 1cc, on EoSD. Every time I start the game I'm SO SURE I'll get it, but I always lose my nerve and start making mistakes around Koakuma.
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Post by JigokuBosatsu » Fri May 24, 2013 2:35 pm

Yeah, this is just making me want to dig out Hypercanvas and record an album. Which I do NOT have time for.

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> JigokuBosatsu wrote:so a regular glass armonica?

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Post by Meikle641 » Fri May 24, 2013 4:14 pm

Was listening to this when I notice something strange in the recommended videos. Also sorts of Cirno and touhou stuff... and then a video for an A-10 Warthog strafing run. I... guess they're both sorta related... I mean, they both make bullet hells.
Also, these songs are pretty good:
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Post by nockermensch » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:19 pm

About DDC, Kagerou has some nasty spellcards. Yuugi is the other lvl 3 boss I remember that forces you to leave the bottom of the screen, but Knock Out in Three Steps is just memorization. Kagerou's last card... *shudders*
EDIT: Lets be earnest about writing the correct spellcard names!
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Post by Atmo » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:36 pm

DDC is a good "turnaround" of events: finally the "Holy War" has ended and new phenomena start happening! And Sekibanki looks like a good doujin material, with a good amount of hidden power and funny stories about Yukkuri heads; and a new favorite, for me, at least.
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Post by LeadPal » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:49 am

> nockermensch wrote:About DDC, Kagerou has some nasty spellcards. Yuugi is the other lvl 3 boss I remember that forces you to leave the bottom of the screen, but Knock Out in Three Steps is just memorization. Kagerou's last card... *shudders*

Ichirin's last two cards also force you to leave the bottom, and they might even be harder. Not to say Kagerou isn't damned hard, of course.
Except for most of Sekibanki's patterns (Flying Head, especially, is boring) and the seriously fucked bombs, I'm digging DDC. I really want to know how the corrupted and uncorrupted storylines differ.
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Post by icyshadowlord » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:00 pm

Poor Sanae, got replaced by Sakuya once more...
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Post by nockermensch » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:19 pm

> LeadPal wrote:

> > nockermensch wrote:About DDC, Kagerou has some nasty spellcards. Yuugi is the other lvl 3 boss I remember that forces you to leave the bottom of the screen, but Knock Out in Three Steps is just memorization. Kagerou's last card... *shudders*

> Ichirin's last two cards also force you to leave the bottom, and they might even be harder. Not to say Kagerou isn't damned hard, of course.
> Except for most of Sekibanki's patterns (Flying Head, especially, is boring) and the seriously fucked bombs, I'm digging DDC. I really want to know how the corrupted and uncorrupted storylines differ.

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Post by Lago PARANOIA » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:10 pm

All I know about Touhou is:
1.) Touhou pornography is the standard punishment for trying to download TTRPG books that aren't actually released yet.
2.) Touhou is the second-most common thing in Mario romhacks or fangames, next to actual Mario critters.

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Post by Atmo » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:03 pm

> Lago PARANOIA wrote:All I know about Touhou is:
> 1.) Touhou pornography is the standard punishment for trying to download TTRPG books that aren't actually released yet.
> 2.) Touhou is the second-most common thing in Mario romhacks or fangames, next to actual Mario critters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEINn9froso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7lHJXPKoX0
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Post by nockermensch » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:21 pm

> Lago PARANOIA wrote:All I know about Touhou is:
> 1.) Touhou pornography is the standard punishment for trying to download TTRPG books that aren't actually released yet.
> 2.) Touhou is the second-most common thing in Mario romhacks or fangames, next to actual Mario critters.

1.) In particular, the punishment used to be Touhou futa porn. Not Futo porn, sadly.
2.) Touhou is an absolute juggernaut among japanese geeks. Maybe because ZUN has a strong indie ethic, encouraging fan-works and refusing to cash in and go fully commercial.
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Post by Atmo » Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:36 pm

AAaaaand, Fantasy Kaleidoscope 2-1!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK75kxyhsxQ
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