# The Gaming Den

Welcome to the Gaming Den.

Skip to content

## So how come Death Penalty = Higher Crime?

Mundane & Pointless Stuff I Must Share: The Off Topic Forum

Moderator: Moderators

Post Reply

- Print view

96 posts

- Previous
- 1
- 2
- 3
- 4

CatharzGodfoot
  King
  Posts: 5668
  Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:54 pm
  Location: North Carolina

###

- Quote

Post by CatharzGodfoot » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:55 pm

> Lich-Loved wrote:These Sioux weren't too many generations from the ones that kicked Custer's ass and they wanted everyone there to know it. Showing up where they were at or running into a band of them on those long, empty roads meant a stomping might well be on the way. Given this, you can see why I might have avoided deeper cultural interaction with the natives near my hometown.

Considering the shape that, for example, the Sitting Bull memorial is in, I can't really blame them. The white hicks around there can be pretty scary.
The law in its majestic equality forbids the rich as well as the poor from stealing bread, begging and sleeping under bridges.
-Anatole France
Mount Flamethrower on rear
Drive in reverse
Win Game.
-Josh Kablack
Top

Crissa
  King
  Posts: 6720
  Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:54 pm
  Location: Santa Cruz

###

- Quote

Post by Crissa » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:05 pm

Well, I got out of school to go to events, and still got a Presidential Attendance Award.
Ohwell.
-Crissa
Top

shadzar
  Prince
  Posts: 4922
  Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:08 pm

###

- Quote

Post by shadzar » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:18 pm

> Crissa wrote:Well, I got out of school to go to events, and still got a Presidential Attendance Award.
> Ohwell.
> -Crissa

If it was under the Bush administration, then that means you could have missed half the term and still been eligible....he did.
Play the game, not the rules.

> Swordslinger wrote:Or fuck it... I'm just going to get weapon specialization in my cock and whip people to death with it. Given all the enemies are total pussies, it seems like the appropriate thing to do.

> Lewis Black wrote:If the people of New Zealand want to be part of our world, I believe they should hop off their islands, and push 'em closer.

good read (Note to self Maxus sucks a barrel of cocks.)
Top

Lich-Loved
  Knight
  Posts: 314
  Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:50 pm

###

- Quote

Post by Lich-Loved » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:49 pm

> CatharzGodfoot wrote:Considering the shape that, for example, the Sitting Bull memorial is in, I can't really blame them. The white hicks around there can be pretty scary.

Fuck off with the hick stuff. It shows your ignorance. Perhaps it is lost on you, but there are people in the US who believe they are still at war with the White Man. [Aside: I would love to see your ass on one of those nice little border towns just outside the reservation. Pass on that you are a liberal, so they know you aren't armed. At least you won't be a thought a hick when they carve your ass.]
I can recall , even though I was 6 at the time, when news broke out about the Wounded Knee Incident. You basically have Indians and Federal Marshals killing each other over a period of 60 or so days. Tensions were very high and Whites and Indians were walking around armed. We lived on an air base and the base was locked down to prevent incidents. And this was in 1973 which is a mere hundred years or so since the White Man broke his promises made at the Treaty of Fort Laramie. When I left in the late 70's, Indians killing whites was a regular occurrence. There is a deep hatred for whites among some Sioux to this day, and this hatred is rightly earned. I also have no doubt this hatred is reciprocated in the form of memorial trashing and the dry-gulching of a lone Indian or what have you, , but that does not make everyone in the West a hick any more than the rioting blacks in LA dry-gultching that lost trucker make all black men into frothing criminals that should be shot on site.
Neither the White Man nor the Indian has acted honorably throughout history - unlike, apparently, those civilized white folk on the coasts, which are and always have been the very picture of rationality, fairness, openness and equality and came by their cities, land, and water rights by sprinkling the magical fairy dust they brought with them from the Old Country upon the vacant coastal landscape, creating the well-mannered and well-ordered cities we have today.
- LL
Top

Crissa
  King
  Posts: 6720
  Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:54 pm
  Location: Santa Cruz

###

- Quote

Post by Crissa » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:55 pm

It was signed by Reagan, if that tells you anything Though I didn't get to vote for the elder Bush, my first election was actually Clinton's win.
-Crissa
Top

shadzar
  Prince
  Posts: 4922
  Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:08 pm

###

- Quote

Post by shadzar » Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:36 pm

> Crissa wrote:It was signed by Reagan, if that tells you anything Though I didn't get to vote for the elder Bush, my first election was actually Clinton's win.
> -Crissa

Oh that one...well even Reagan would tel you what he knows about that one, with Olli backing him up. "I don't recall", just like nothing else the two of them remembered.
So you are one of the reasons the economy failed since Clinton repealed the law preventing banks from doing what they did?
Well, I won't blame you personally, since everyone voted for him to be done with Reagan's leftovers since we had 12 years of Bush....then we voted for another 8!
20 years of Bush, and I cannot get the taste out of my mouth! Damn America, shave that thang!
Play the game, not the rules.

> Swordslinger wrote:Or fuck it... I'm just going to get weapon specialization in my cock and whip people to death with it. Given all the enemies are total pussies, it seems like the appropriate thing to do.

> Lewis Black wrote:If the people of New Zealand want to be part of our world, I believe they should hop off their islands, and push 'em closer.

good read (Note to self Maxus sucks a barrel of cocks.)
Top

Crissa
  King
  Posts: 6720
  Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:54 pm
  Location: Santa Cruz

###

- Quote

Post by Crissa » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:04 am

My Senator voted against that and my Representative voted for it, but I didn't vote for her. Clinton signed it into law because the Republicans could have overturned his veto.
And he signed it in 1998, when he was a lame duck anyhow.
-Crissa
Top

shadzar
  Prince
  Posts: 4922
  Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:08 pm

###

- Quote

Post by shadzar » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:20 am

I said I wouldn't hold your personally responsible for it.
I am thinking in lieu of another civil war is why we are having higher crime rates.
The civil war that is brewing in this country, is one of "The People" vs Government and Big Business (I know they are the same thing, but wanted to represent both halves of the group as individuals).
I think we have had lame ducks in office since Carter....but that is a different story.
People are just not happy with how the government lets business run the country, and are tired of it, because the people cannot throw around as much money as businesses can, but the people are the ones that vote officials into office.
Look at the postal worker shootings, disgruntled employees pissed off at the people they are working with, hell any shooting is because people are pissed of at someone else.
Since you cannot really shoot the offender when they are a public official, then people are taking that frustration out other places.
Since Vietnam the whole country has been pissed off, and NOTHING has turned it around to make anything better.
If anything it has only been getting worse...death penalty is not a deterrent. Even a timid rabbit when back into a corner will fight back.
Play the game, not the rules.

> Swordslinger wrote:Or fuck it... I'm just going to get weapon specialization in my cock and whip people to death with it. Given all the enemies are total pussies, it seems like the appropriate thing to do.

> Lewis Black wrote:If the people of New Zealand want to be part of our world, I believe they should hop off their islands, and push 'em closer.

good read (Note to self Maxus sucks a barrel of cocks.)
Top

CatharzGodfoot
  King
  Posts: 5668
  Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:54 pm
  Location: North Carolina

###

- Quote

Post by CatharzGodfoot » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:29 am

> Lich-Loved wrote:

> > CatharzGodfoot wrote:Considering the shape that, for example, the Sitting Bull memorial is in, I can't really blame them. The white hicks around there can be pretty scary.

> Fuck off with the hick stuff. It shows your ignorance. Perhaps it is lost on you, but there are people in the US who believe they are still at war with the White Man. [Aside: I would love to see your ass on one of those nice little border towns just outside the reservation. Pass on that you are a liberal, so they know you aren't armed. At least you won't be a thought a hick when they carve your ass.]
> I can recall , even though I was 6 at the time, when news broke out about the Wounded Knee Incident. You basically have Indians and Federal Marshals killing each other over a period of 60 or so days. Tensions were very high and Whites and Indians were walking around armed. We lived on an air base and the base was locked down to prevent incidents. And this was in 1973 which is a mere hundred years or so since the White Man broke his promises made at the Treaty of Fort Laramie. When I left in the late 70's, Indians killing whites was a regular occurrence. There is a deep hatred for whites among some Sioux to this day, and this hatred is rightly earned. I also have no doubt this hatred is reciprocated in the form of memorial trashing and the dry-gulching of a lone Indian or what have you, , but that does not make everyone in the West a hick any more than the rioting blacks in LA dry-gultching that lost trucker make all black men into frothing criminals that should be shot on site.
> Neither the White Man nor the Indian has acted honorably throughout history - unlike, apparently, those civilized white folk on the coasts, which are and always have been the very picture of rationality, fairness, openness and equality and came by their cities, land, and water rights by sprinkling the magical fairy dust they brought with them from the Old Country upon the vacant coastal landscape, creating the well-mannered and well-ordered cities we have today.

Before you attack me as being ignorant you should calm down and think about what you're saying.
None of the American Indians I've met expressed an irrational hated of Whites. Every one of them was an individual with individual opinions and biases, but when you can generalize Sioux living in South Dakota as 'violently hateful of Whites', I think it's fair to say that there's probably a social reason. Gun-toting, Indian-hating hicks is a good place to start, as is the shit they have to put up with from the BIA.
Last edited by CatharzGodfoot on Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
The law in its majestic equality forbids the rich as well as the poor from stealing bread, begging and sleeping under bridges.
-Anatole France
Mount Flamethrower on rear
Drive in reverse
Win Game.
-Josh Kablack
Top

Crissa
  King
  Posts: 6720
  Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:54 pm
  Location: Santa Cruz

###

- Quote

Post by Crissa » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:33 am

My step-father was instrumental in creating Self Governance, which allowed Indian nations to manage the Dept. of Interior funds to their advantage and create local industries and schools.
Very proud of him ^-^ Tho we didn't get along well.
-Crissa
Top

shadzar
  Prince
  Posts: 4922
  Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:08 pm

###

- Quote

Post by shadzar » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:49 am

> CatharzGodfoot wrote:None of the American Indians I've met expressed an irrational hated of Whites. Every one of them was an individual with individual opinions and biases, but when you can generalize Sioux living in South Dakota as 'violently hateful of Whites', I think it's fair to say that there's probably a social reason. Gun-toting, Indian-hating hicks is a good place to start, as is the shit they have to put up with from the BIA.

Maybe you need to take a trip to Cherokee, and NOT just watch Unto These Hills, but actually talk to some of the people. You will find a few that are not beaten down completely by the hillbillies of NC, that will still defend themselves form the dumb hicks on both sides of the NC-TN border and their "South should have won" attitudes. It isn't Indian-hating, but non-white hating along the lines of Nazi-ism.
Or visit the Chickasaw in TN, and you will be able to find the same mistreatment by whites going on because they are non-white, nnot just because they are Indian.
Last edited by shadzar on Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:50 am, edited 1 time in total.
Play the game, not the rules.

> Swordslinger wrote:Or fuck it... I'm just going to get weapon specialization in my cock and whip people to death with it. Given all the enemies are total pussies, it seems like the appropriate thing to do.

> Lewis Black wrote:If the people of New Zealand want to be part of our world, I believe they should hop off their islands, and push 'em closer.

good read (Note to self Maxus sucks a barrel of cocks.)
Top

Crissa
  King
  Posts: 6720
  Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:54 pm
  Location: Santa Cruz

###

- Quote

Post by Crissa » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:56 am

Native superiority was really big among tribes east of the Cascades, too. It's alot like the stuff you see in the inner city - kids trying really hard to hold onto an identity despite that the identity is attached to a depressing ghetto. It lead to a large number of kinds in our highschool committing suicide via alcohol or cars and dropping out of school and just being relentlessly, and violently depressive.
Depression does strange, and sad things to populations caught in corners, their race or origin is irrelevant to the effects, yet it has huge differences in how to combat it.
-Crissa
Top

shadzar
  Prince
  Posts: 4922
  Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:08 pm

###

- Quote

Post by shadzar » Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:00 am

That is why we need to get rid of the corners in the middle.
IF this is the great chamber melting pot, then things need to be allowed to melt together. Not to the extent that you cannot taste the chocolate or peanut butter anymore, but so they are a part of each others existence, and one can no longer exist thinking the other doesn't/shouldn't.
Get rid of the fucking ghetto's That will cut the unemployment rate. Spend money to fix the fucking homes and housing up to where it ISN'T a ghetto anymore, but a place ANYBODY would be happy/content to live in
Play the game, not the rules.

> Swordslinger wrote:Or fuck it... I'm just going to get weapon specialization in my cock and whip people to death with it. Given all the enemies are total pussies, it seems like the appropriate thing to do.

> Lewis Black wrote:If the people of New Zealand want to be part of our world, I believe they should hop off their islands, and push 'em closer.

good read (Note to self Maxus sucks a barrel of cocks.)
Top

Crissa
  King
  Posts: 6720
  Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:54 pm
  Location: Santa Cruz

###

- Quote

Post by Crissa » Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:14 am

Yes, well, we live in a country where a solid 30% don't want to spend the money to make the place nice, where these portion does not believe that social good exists.
-Crissa
Top

shadzar
  Prince
  Posts: 4922
  Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:08 pm

###

- Quote

Post by shadzar » Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:17 am

It is a vanity country. They want nice things, but want it at the expense of anyone but themselves. The mowing laws where grass cannot exceed 6 inches, and the way the "ghettos" even exist. They exist because they are wanted. They are made for "those" people that don't deserve nice thngs, and then "those" people can be blamed for bringing down everything else, while "the other" people don't lift a finger to do anything about it but bitch about "those" people that live in the "ghettos".
Play the game, not the rules.

> Swordslinger wrote:Or fuck it... I'm just going to get weapon specialization in my cock and whip people to death with it. Given all the enemies are total pussies, it seems like the appropriate thing to do.

> Lewis Black wrote:If the people of New Zealand want to be part of our world, I believe they should hop off their islands, and push 'em closer.

good read (Note to self Maxus sucks a barrel of cocks.)
Top

Lich-Loved
  Knight
  Posts: 314
  Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:50 pm

###

- Quote

Post by Lich-Loved » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:35 pm

> CatharzGodfoot wrote:Before you attack me as being ignorant you should calm down and think about what you're saying.
> None of the American Indians I've met expressed an irrational hated of Whites. Every one of them was an individual with individual opinions and biases, but when you can generalize Sioux living in South Dakota as 'violently hateful of Whites', I think it's fair to say that there's probably a social reason. Gun-toting, Indian-hating hicks is a good place to start, as is the shit they have to put up with from the BIA.

Fair point. And to be clear, I am not saying all Indians hate whites, I am saying that when I lived there, racial tensions were very high and violence against whites occurred all the time. This is why I think calling whites in SD "hicks" in general is wrong. Both the whites and the Indians have their share of asshats.
I know very well two things: Indians got severely fucked over by the white man and not every Indian is bitter about this, but a few definitely were. If I have by accident implied something other than this, than I apologize.
- LL
Top

Crissa
  King
  Posts: 6720
  Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:54 pm
  Location: Santa Cruz

###

- Quote

Post by Crissa » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:55 pm

I'm pretty sure aside from a few zen indians, they're all bitter about it. It just is whether they act irrationally on that bitterness or not.
-Crissa
Top

shadzar
  Prince
  Posts: 4922
  Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:08 pm

###

- Quote

Post by shadzar » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:09 pm

> Crissa wrote:I'm pretty sure aside from a few zen indians, they're all bitter about it. It just is whether they act irrationally on that bitterness or not.
> -Crissa

You mean like the "I want my 40 acres and a mule" T-shirts from the early 90's?
By "act", do you mean speak out, or go postal on people?
Play the game, not the rules.

> Swordslinger wrote:Or fuck it... I'm just going to get weapon specialization in my cock and whip people to death with it. Given all the enemies are total pussies, it seems like the appropriate thing to do.

> Lewis Black wrote:If the people of New Zealand want to be part of our world, I believe they should hop off their islands, and push 'em closer.

good read (Note to self Maxus sucks a barrel of cocks.)
Top

Crissa
  King
  Posts: 6720
  Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:54 pm
  Location: Santa Cruz

###

- Quote

Post by Crissa » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:24 pm

Did your text to speech function skip the word, 'irrational'?
-Crissa
Top

shadzar
  Prince
  Posts: 4922
  Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:08 pm

###

- Quote

Post by shadzar » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:29 pm

Some consider only physical actions to be irrational, and others consider words to be.
Just asking what extent you consider it to be rather than assigning a view to you that you may not hold.
Play the game, not the rules.

> Swordslinger wrote:Or fuck it... I'm just going to get weapon specialization in my cock and whip people to death with it. Given all the enemies are total pussies, it seems like the appropriate thing to do.

> Lewis Black wrote:If the people of New Zealand want to be part of our world, I believe they should hop off their islands, and push 'em closer.

good read (Note to self Maxus sucks a barrel of cocks.)
Top

Crissa
  King
  Posts: 6720
  Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:54 pm
  Location: Santa Cruz

###

- Quote

Post by Crissa » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:30 am

Irrational is irrational. Artistic and political expression need not be. They could be, but they're usually fairly rational, constructive outgrowths of negative emotions.
Heck, I even think AIM (American Indian Movement), which is called a terrorist organization, is a fairly rational outcome.
Bigotry and assaults of people unrelated to the feelings would be irrational. Perhaps predictable, but still irrational.
-Crissa
Top
Post Reply

- Print view

Display:
Sort by:
Direction:

96 posts

- Previous
- 1
- 2
- 3
- 4

Return to “MPSIMS”

Jump to

- Main
- ↳ About the Gaming Den
- ↳ In My Humble Opinion...
- ↳ I Gave the Mouse a Cookie...
- ↳ In The Trenches
- ↳ It's My Own Invention...
- ↳ MPSIMS