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Prak
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Post by Prak » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:56 pm

Ok, show of internet hands, who is watching this thread and would play this if Koumei ran an IRC game, bondage nuns and all?
I would.
Cuz apparently I gotta break this down for you dense motherfuckers- I'm trans feminine nonbinary. My pronouns are they/them.

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Post by Whipstitch » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:57 pm

> Chamomile wrote:The actual mechanics of this game are almost wholly divorced from its fluff. The only piece of fluff that's made it into the mechanics so far is "murder school." The details of what kind of school (swap out "house" for "major" and we've got a college, swap out "house" for "clique" and we've got an American Sitcom school, put it in a castle and add a bunch of particle effects and it's a Harry Potter clone) aren't really hard-coded at all.

That's more or less my stance on this li'l project as well and frankly the discussion seems a bit silly to me given that anime is so enamored with genre mashups in any case. As a genre anime murder schools typically vary by degree of emphasis when it comes to fanservice, implied kink and dirty old men and horny teenagers rather than outright omit them. Having an instructor who is basically Master Roshi, Kung Fu Pervert reskin doesn't actually prevent you from also having the meat of the game revolve around fighting trans-dimensional aliens or even dipping its toes into supernatural horror. So I seriously do not see the problem here; it's not like anyone's suggested hardcoding anal circumference or insisted you actually pantomime polishing the professor's knob rather than just letting players say "I will cute distraught girl him into giving me an extension."
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Post by Koumei » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:01 pm

> Kaelik wrote:I realize Koumei, that you specifically don't ever want to play in a roleplaying game without it involving sex.

Fixed it for you. And it's a hell of a lot more interesting than games about murdering stuff, or trudging through dungeons up to your knees in shite.
I mean, at the end of the day, in the real world, people who have "sex" as a hobby are seen as healthy individuals, and people who have "killing" as a hobby are put in prison.

> and I find your particular sex roleplaying to be childish and juvenile.

In all of that one game, singular, that statement is 100% correct. It was supposed to be a silly game, and yeah, I perhaps played it too silly, though then again, maybe that was just matching the mood. Now you probably can't remember the massive WLD campaign you ran, which lasted... was it one session or two? And how, oh right, there was no sexy stuff involved at all, unless you have a thing for colour sprays. And if you do, that's okay, to each their own.

> If you want to make a joke sex game with complex rules, knowing that you will never get 3 people to play it with you, I have no reasons why you shouldn't do that.

Is the new definition of a sex game "One that involves any mention of sexual activity ever"? Ideally, I'd like for it to be able to be played just like basically any of the anime I listed as influences. All of which can be found in the regular anime section of DVD stores (excepting those that aren't translated yet), as opposed to the 18+ section. Anime not listed as influences: all of those actual hentai ones.
I mean, yes, player characters can hook up the way students (or indeed, people) actually tend to do. Yes, there are panty raids (and unless I'm mistaken, having never attended a mixed boarding school, those are stolen from underwear drawers, not from the people currently wearing them). Yes, sports teams tend to get people ogling the players, which is basically the only reason anybody has any interest in sport in the real world. Yes, they make use of corporal punishment in a "That happens, you don't need to play it out and there aren't rules for it" way. And the skirts are short so that, when people imagine the fights, there are going to be panty shots.
That's a whole lot of different things that each are very minor. If you're seriously getting bent out of shape over just that, well, I guess I can understand, your country was settled by people who thought the fucking British weren't prudish and self-repressed enough.
And if this qualifies as complex rules, then fuck, D&D 3.5 must be fucking neurosurgery or something. How do you manage to order meals off a menu if this is so complex?

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Post by Libertad » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:05 pm

Just a suggestion, but if Kaelik and PhoneLobster are worried about Koumei's direction for the game, they can take the stuff they do like and create their own high school/WH40K/anime collaboration.
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Post by Chamomile » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:28 pm

> Prak_Anima wrote:Ok, show of internet hands, who is watching this thread and would play this if Koumei ran an IRC game, bondage nuns and all?
> I would.

Ehh, thought I'd chime in to say I probably would except I'm already doing the Disgaeagame thing with her. Not sure I'd want to chew up another chunk of my schedule for a very similar game. Although I might put in a vote for a playtest to replace Disgaeagame, even if only temporarily. D&D combat feels like a slog as often as not, and the total dearth of any emotional mechanics at all (not even something as basic as Master Passions) means that an emotionally complicated but reserved character is probably never, ever going to have a chance to reveal any depth.
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Post by Kaelik » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:44 pm

> Libertad wrote:Just a suggestion, but if Kaelik and PhoneLobster are worried about Koumei's direction for the game, they can take the stuff they do like and create their own high school/WH40K/anime collaboration.

Alternatively, if people see a flaw in a plan, they can point it out without specifically having to go implement the plan, because they don't want to. Watch:
Person: I want to play a game where we make sexy highschool nun jokes. It's going to use a d348, and have over infinity tables!
Other Person: I do not personally want to make a sexy highschool nun joke game. None the less, I recommend you use 3d6 and have only 400 tables, because then more people will want to play your game, and the game will go faster, and it won't suck as much.
OMG!!!!!! It's almost like Phone Lobster's criticism wasn't about the direction of the game, but was instead about making it easier to play!

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Post by Josh_Kablack » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:45 pm

Well my vote is that the actual game design and fluffling project be moved or reposted into IMOI where people not interested in the type of game can just stay however far away from it they want to. And then this thread can continue the lively exchange of Australian hillybilly taunting and BDSM one-upping which have made the last page so entertaining.
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Post by Koumei » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:52 pm

Well originally it was just a few questions here and I was then going to go make the game elsewhere. But enough people got interested that this evolved into the game thread.
That said, I'm totally going to do that. And people can use this thread to insult each other just fine.
Also, Hitler. And suck, barrel, cocks, etc.

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Post by Whatever » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:28 am

If there's some question as to who's the most into BDSM, we at least have a pre-existing measure of your willingness to voluntarily subject yourself to pain. It's called a "post count".
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Post by Koumei » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:15 am

Whatever: I believe that would make Frank the king of bondage, and he's stated elsewhere that he's not actually into that.
Anyway, observe: http://tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?p=247258#247258
As it says, don't fucking post there yet.
Also, it'd be super if any "Needs fewer rules", "This is too silly", "This is not silly enough", "Needs to be more setting-agnostic", "Too many sexual references" talk occurs on this thread, where its uselessness won't clutter up the main one. Actual issues with the way specific rules or setting things work (or don't work) is fine in the other one.

> Count Arioch the 28th wrote:There is NOTHING better than lesbians. Lesbians make everything better.

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Post by Count Arioch the 28th » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:22 am

I would love to be issue-free enough to play in a bondage-nun game with Koumei, but alas I still have some sexual issues to work through. I approve of its existence though, and would make small effort to see that it happens even if I don't read or participate myself.
As far as S&M, as far as what one is done I don't think anyone here is as hardcore as I am. Please don't ask me to elaborate, because you guys don't even know...
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Post by the_taken » Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:28 pm

Something missing from this is an itinerary of what sort of things the Head Master (Mister Cavern) needs to run his Students (Players) through. After all, he has to he has to meet the government's educational standards, even if he can personally 'school' the Prime Minister/President/Dictator for Life in and his whole army in personal combat.
School class schedules vary from board to school board. Even the start of the school year isn't determinate, but there are some dates that line up the world over. Holidays. While the name and reason don't always match, thematic celebrations and events are scattered throughout the year to break the monotony of grinding XP to increase one's grade. (Compare) Sports seasons line up particularly well, since they are tied to weather and annual temperature schedules.
I put forth that there needs to be set of themes that each game session has to have, representing the current school event. In most cases, the theme will be "Whatever Chicanery the Players get into!", but on Spirit Day, it is mandatory for all students to exorcise the new ghosts, dammit!
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Post by Korwin » Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:18 pm

> Koumei wrote:Also, it'd be super if any "Needs fewer rules", "This is too silly", "This is not silly enough", "Needs to be more setting-agnostic", "Too many sexual references" talk occurs on this thread, where its uselessness won't clutter up the main one. Actual issues with the way specific rules or setting things work (or don't work) is fine in the other one.

Too few sexual references?
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Post by Koumei » Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:48 pm

You'd meet fierce debate about that one.

> Count Arioch the 28th wrote:There is NOTHING better than lesbians. Lesbians make everything better.

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