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So they def have a halal on you and you're getting a thread. Whoever the person is that's using their job is trying to spook you into spilling more spaghetti to be used in your thread.
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jesus christ
13:32
thats terrifying
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Why did you keep poking the bear? You don't seem to follow lolcows
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i do follow lolcows, but not as frequently as before the ethan ralph group of cows are the ones i find most interesting
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You went to the wrong section by far for that one
13:33
Kiwi also hates power leveling regardless of it's pertinence and that's most of your posts
13:33
May I ask what you were thinking?
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i thought if i defended myself, or was completely honest, theyd go easier on me because i hate lying arguably just as much, if not more thsn they di
13:34
do*
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They lie about hating lying, the entire site is a giant gayop
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jesus
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It's not like .farm or /cow/ who cares about the truth cause that's the funniest
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what image boards are /cow/ on?
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Alogsspace but don't go there now lol
13:36
Unless you can actually hang there >we are worse than kiwis
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and yeah, .farm is transphobic, but they're the only ones that have actively gotten their information almost completely right about me ah ty
13:36
lmao
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Yeah I'm on .farm I like keeping it honest
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same
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Issue is you took direct shots at the whole userbase not even like certain aspects or staff
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im tired of people lying about the ED article i was framed under by jason metloney, or the harassment from everyone around me and thats true, i got pretty upset over very minor nitpicks
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Yeah and now you'll have to suffer more because the worst trolls see they can get you to respond every time
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yeah, i wanna stop but people lying is genuinely very upsetting to me its always been my autistic hair trigger. sometimes its okay, like if you're not revealing trauma from your past, helping a friend not get harassed, or not letting yourself get doxed
13:41
but lying about other people is unforgivable to me
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Yes but this isn't how you get that to stop
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true
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I'm a huge moralfag, that's why we are having this conversation and it's very important that you recognize that I'm trying to look out for you. I have a thread just from fighting the kind of trolls kiwi later got rid of, I've busted Bella Janke, Elaine Miller, I've brought tons of milk and earned the respect of many farmers. I exposed Shaymin, I've done things on other sites in the sector. Even I have gotten slandered with the worst possible thing, they were protecting you from them up until now but now those people will do horrible things and try to make it look like you did. Whoever has videos disclosing they're an officer is larping, people are very good at lying and as you're autistic you're not good at picking that up, no offense. I'm legitimately machevalian so that's the only reason why I float in this sector and I focus on the funnies, not the drama and because of this even with the libel on me I'm still accepted in places but you've played this awfully and idk where to even point you until I train you better. Frankly at this point it'd be better to just have you in a server with other people who like laughing at lolcows and can't help but get baited into getting bullied.
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thank you!
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For engaging with you?
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yes and giving me advice
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No problem, everybody gets one
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yeah
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I'd not log back onto kiwi if I was you
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why?
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What do you think will happen?
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well, if i interact theyll go after me, but if i don't, i'll be okay
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Far too late for that
15:54
Don't log in but just look, you've gotten a lot of bad attention
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jesus
15:55
good point
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/ot/, /meta/ and the voc thread are all having ppl starting to investigate you
15:55
So you've got two different halals you're looking at
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ew
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I'm not even sure what advice to give
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me neither i checked /ot/ and the fact that one girl didnt want a thread on me because itll "attract men" was hilarious
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They have a good point but I think their actual meaning is Rachel did bring a bunch of scrotes over and the whole /meta/ drama is thanks to them. I doubt that'll happen again but plenty of ppl are still ticked about that bullshit
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wow
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But yeah you blasted through all the moralfags and it's knives out now. My honest thinking is that you'll have to bail fully on the communities, you've already seen that any 'friends' you thought you had there were fucking with you so why stay
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thank you
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Yupp, all I can do for ya at this point really
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thats understandable
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If we stay in contact long enough I could help ya watch lolcows but it's best if you laid low and lurked for a while
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thsnk you! lurking more is usually good, anyways
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It is
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yeah
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So besides Ralph what were you looking for by joining these kinda communities? Let alone sharing self harm to them. I know you got trapped in correcting the record but is that why you came in the first place or?
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nah i came to vendetta post in the Vocaloid thread, but i had a lot of knowledge on the cows in that community, as well as several others but a week or two sfter i joined, chris raped his mom and i decided to actually contribute for a change
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Ahhhh fair enough, fair enough. Quite a journey since then huh
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yeah lol
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So why the mistaken for a transmed? Have you met too many of us before or just ran into Twitter heads?
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nah, truth be told im definitely still on the "you need dysphoria to be trans" train, but i dont want twitter retards to drop me so i pretend i don't care about dysphoria i have ran transmed discourse tumblrs from 2018 to 2021, my most recent is a 2022 blog where i mostly fight with feminists for fun
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I mean I'm of the mind that euphoria defines it really but fair enough. Why fight feminists?
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because tumblr radfems are a different breed, and tumblr has a much more lax tos so i can accurately press their buttons for fun
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How do you press their buttons?
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its pretty simple 1. tell them internalized misogyny isnt real 2. call them bitches, cunts, whores, et cetera. the best responses come from this but tumblr recently banned "cunt" as a word 3. scroll through their blog, find information they're either wrong or lying about, and nitpick every detail 4. make jokes at their expense
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So you do it just for enjoyment? Draining energy or laughs?
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yeah
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And the second question
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yeah?
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Do you do that as a way to feed off others emotions or cause it's funny?
16:40
To rephrase it
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i do it because its funny to me
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Okay I was just curious, why feminists in particular tho instead of a different group? Trolling Nazis is usually fun and p easy, won't get ya heat on most any sides for example.
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because it fits with the incel larping i also fuck with neonazis, tradcaths, & ancaps, which can be fun, but i mainly target radfems
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So you larp as an incel? How does your actual ideology differ?
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i don't actually hate women, i see everyone as equal and deserving of equal rights, but i do like dressing in 2000s 4chan user style outfits
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Well two questions, what draws you to the fashion? So in the LCF thread on kiwi you were lying about what you said about women? Jw
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nah, i wasnt lying. i do think they already have equal rights, and at the very least not oppressed in the united states. i also tend to go for the throat with radfems in particular
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So you hate some women then or?
17:01
Also how do you define radfem?
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some women, yes. just not as a whole
17:03
anyone who follows radical feminist beliefs -gender critical, although not all gcs are radfems, the majority are. -agrees with dworkin or other founders of the ideology -hates men as a whole, or sees them as lesser to women
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And you do know a lot of us that post on LCF aren't right?
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oh shit
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There's a few, quite a few who view men as equal. Some of that 'hate' is literally just a post we see on 4chan that we fiddle with a bit to swap the gender of it
17:05
It's a place to let women vent without men swooping in and going um acktually
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thats...retarded tbh
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Why's that?
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because if men cant vent about women saying shit like "all men-" or other things deemed sexist, why let women?
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They shouldn't, they have plenty of spaces to do so, due to that they can.
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no, they dont
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What do you call 4chan and kiwifarms?
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4chan is a shitposting website, kiwifarms' userbase is about 50/50 and the beauty parlor is dedicated to more feminine issues
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I disagree that it's 50/50, BP is certainly mainly women, the few trans in this space and gay men. 4chan is still a space where men are sexist about women, as is reddit, both are bigger platforms is all
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thats fair
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BP is also the place most ppl don't want to piss off
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yeah, which is why i didnt really go there until some chick started a slapfight with me
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Do you know how many BP ladies post or lurk LCF?
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nope
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Ooooof
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oh no
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What's up
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nothing i just dont like the sound of that
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Yeah ngl two things saved my ass, my alogs being actually much worse than me and the BP ladies
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yeah, thatd track
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There was a couple things I did that even the Terfiest of Terfs saw me as incapable of being a monster and it saved my ass
17:17
Plus my primary alog beat his one month old son and was a cross dresser so yeahhhhhhh
17:18
Your threads likely going to be an oldfag that's left which is not good, on LCF they're already compiling info for an OP
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jesyd christ
17:19
yeah
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I don't have a kiwi account since I'm on other sites and josh hates me personally so I can't see proving grounds for ya
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yeah that makes sense i can see it
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So whatcha gonna do now?
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i dunno
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What do you think you should do?
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i dunno
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Well that's no good
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oh
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Men usually have plans is all so when they don't it's bad news lol
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true lol
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You're 19 so you're not a boy, you're a man now so probably should work on a plan
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i agree
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Do ya need help?
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probably, but theres another really bsd situation going on
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What's that?
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i got kicked from a server a couple days ago because the cop threatened to attack and slander everyone there if i wasnt banned so i was sacrificed, all my friends left me, i went to the one person i know who also went through that, from the same group
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And what happened when you went to them?
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and now the owner is sperging about me manipulating them the whole time regardless of our past friendship, and i kinda wanna neck myself
17:35
but the person i spoke to said to ignore them because theyre gonna keep going for the rest of time
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Yupp that person is right, that server was trying to milk you the whole time most likely
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probably
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Why neck yourself tho? Don't you have other friend groups?
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i have a few isolated friends, but no. not really
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Ah I bet this is hitting you rather hard then, this has always been a hobby to me so I keep my actual friends separate
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teah absolutely
08:43
and i just saw this sorry
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You're fine
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yeah
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So why not hang with other trans ppl my dude? There are a few that shit post and follow cows
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that sounds cool tbh
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Why'd ya go to terf city first? Why not move on in the time it's been since the ILJ stuff when kiwi went non ironic transphobe
09:24
Half the accounts left the site WG
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really? jesus
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Yes, always do your research lol
09:25
>tranny CP spam Thanks for spreading that lie btw retard
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me?
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You sucked up as much as you could
09:25
Do you enjoy how the cis treat you?
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i didnt know they were talking about you
09:25
sorry
09:25
i just heard that rumor and panicked
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That's my point you just repeat stuff without processing it
09:26
Josh hates me for fucking his site up
09:26
Course he'd lie
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yeah, i never lie on purpose, or at least i avoid it if possible but im usually very...innocent, almost? i trust almost everyone right off the bat
09:26
im so sorry
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Gullible yes
09:27
Which is what lying protects against
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thats the word
09:27
and ty
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sorry, again
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Oh now I see why medical is so important to you over performance
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?
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Being trans is about acting like the other gender for so long that changing how you look is an easier way to be understood. You came at it backwards, you wanted to justify how you looked. Prove me wrong.
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ohhhh that makes sense, honestly
09:30
i try to pass but im so autistic i fail at it
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Well the kiwis aren't the best for telling you if you pass but yeah like
09:31
Are you sure you're trans?
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i am certain im trans, why?
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Btw play the game of who was born with a vagina
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i cant tell lmao
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whiteglove
i am certain im trans, why?
Just wondering cause you don't act much like a man is all so forcing you into a whole social dynamic seems cruel
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but i do try to pass. passing helps my dysphoria, and being called he & a man helps give me euphoria
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Well that's good then
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i never really had a social dynamic in my life, though, and social cues go over my head because i never grew up around msny people, especially not those my age
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Well you clearly have played new vegas
09:34
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definitely lmso
09:34
i love new vegas
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Joshua graham is consistently whom I use as a pfp from that game because he is exactly what a man should be
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yeah, hes awesome
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And you want others to think you're awesome right?
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yeah
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Do you think more ppl like Joshua graham than like incels?
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of course
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Did you know ftm have this one trick where everyone calls them a man called building muscle
09:36
Why you stagnating and taking the path of least resistance? Isn't that what you complain feminists are doing?
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theres a problem, though. a couple, actually i hate exercise and muscle scares me
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Everyone hates exercise when they start it out. Why scared of muscles?
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i dunno how to explain it, but muscles just dont look right to me i cannot see a reality where i develop muscles, or lose a lot of weight, where i'd be happy with myself, being called a man would make me really happy, but i dont want to be unhappy in other areas
09:39
and they just dont look right
09:40
but as for exercise, ive hated it since i was really young. between my athsma, ankle problems, and general hatred of pain i could never enjoy iy
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That's weird, boobs look right on me like it was so natural when they started coming in my brain went yeah there they are, you haven't had a masochetomy. I got a wooden hockey stick broken over my spine and was paralyzed for three hours, I still workout because it's more painful to live without strong muscles supporting your core. The ambient pain goes up.
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that makes sense
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I usually do
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i hate my breasts, i hate my voice, i hate my lack of facial hair, my lack of a dick makes me very upset, but being affirmed makes me feel better temporarily
09:43
my ribs & sides usually hurt because, while i rarely leave the house, i always bind when i do, but i bind less than 8 hours and bought a 3x binder so idk why
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But muscles look weird and you can't imagine them on you?
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nah
09:45
i never really grew up around muscular people
09:45
maybe thats why
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So what aspects of man do you achieve?
09:46
Even my alogs use my feminity to bash other women so I'm very confident in my gender
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uhhhh, im not sure i just know what makes the dysphoria stop, and i know i love dressing like a man and being referred to as one
09:47
but even my dad is a bit effeminate so
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You're not sure what aspects of man you hit?
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not really
09:49
So why do you like being called a man?
09:50
I got called a woman all the time online cause of how I acted and now I get called one outside cause of how I look so I'm confused
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because im not a woman, ive never been one, i dont get it. like i dont get it at all. if anything, it makes me want to hurt either myself or others depending on my mood but if im called a man, i feel happy, i feel comfortable, and it makes sense
09:52
its hard to explain
09:52
its just im not active. i dont like exercise, and i dont get how that makes me not a man
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When I'm called a man it makes me laugh cause I know the ppl doing it can barely believe it themselves
09:52
Men uh are super active
09:53
Otherwise other men bully you
09:53
I hyper performed masculinity
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i guess so, but im okay with that.
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You're okay with being bullied?
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i mean, its constant anyways, right?
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Not really?
09:54
I was the homecoming king in highschool, no cap
09:55
Bullying is simple to stop, aloging is harder cause ppl with grudges on the internet have no lives
09:56
I'm dead named on /cow/, a guy tried to bully me for being trans last night and got ripped apart by everyone
09:56
Sharks don't mind other sharks
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oh ive never really known a day without bullying, all my friends in high school kinda pretended to be my friend and laughed at me behind my back to everyone i knew
09:56
that makes sense
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So you think men don't laugh behind each other's back?
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no, i know they do. my friends in high school were mostly men, just not super masculine ones
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Yeah that's weak men and how they act
09:58
Why do you want to be that?
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i was robbed of my junior and senior years, though so idk what the average high school experience is like, i wish i had it tho but maybe its just my natural personality? i kinda enjoy the way i dress and just being a bit nerdy, yknow?
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Yeah a ton of girls in dnd I know act very similar is my thing
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ah but its like. im a man, yknow? i mostly have sex dysphoria, rather than social dysphoria the most my social dysphoria extends to is dressing like a man, using he/him, and being called a msn
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So it's only dick envy?
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not necessarily. i wish i was a cis guy in every way
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And that would fix your life magically?
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no, why? itd just make me more comfortable in my body & life
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Being born and raised a woman would fix most of the issues remaining in my brain
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thatd maje sense i think the same with me, but as a man, and itd fix half or less as the grand majority of my problems have nothing to do with my sex, just the most severe ones
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People would understand me better growing up
10:06
That's about it
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that makes sense
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>the grand majority of my problems have nothing to do with my sex Exactly and if you had a dick you know it's more likely you'd have been born with a small one right? Would you complain then?
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nah, im not interested in sex (mostly due to dysphoria, but anyways) its not important, anyways. just having one at all is enough
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No man would ever say they want a small dick
10:10
You're a trender
10:10
Face it
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how the fuck sm i a trender you piece of shit?
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you don't act like a man
10:11
You don't think like a man
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that doesny make me not a man
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Yes actually it does socially
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im just so severely dysphoric, any release is good
10:12
id do anything to stop being dysphoric and stop being misgendered, just as long as it doesn't involve exercise
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Yeah you can't even exercise for it
10:12
Biggest sign of a trender ever
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what the hell are you talking about
10:12
i hsvent met a single trans guy that exercises
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Every trans person I know has worked out to reshape their body
10:12
Lol
10:13
You met trenders then
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i have not met a single one that does
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Kay, you're 19
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i do not know a singke one
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You've been out of your town even yet?
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yes! yes i have!
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Real trans men work out js
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i grew up in a completely different state, how could i not be outside of my town
10:14
but i am a man and everyone who says im not, despite my fucking dysphoria diagnosis, should be killed
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Youre a trender, a predator trying to claim you're trans. You make us look bad.
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i will not apologize for saying that. i am a man, and you have no fucking right to come into my dms under the guise of helping me
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You'll be accepted nowhere for your hate
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then saying that shit
10:15
how the fuck am i a predator?
10:16
but if i have a dysphoria diagnosis, that doesnt make me a trender, thats solid proof im NOT a trender
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You claimed everyone should be killed
10:16
That's predator shit
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not everyone, just people who refuse to accept the truth im a man
10:17
everyone in my life treats me as a man
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How do we know it's the truth is all I'm saying. If you hit more hallmarks I'd be singing a different tune.
10:17
Not everyone's trans
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i know not everyone is trans but i have it ON PAPER. im even gonna see an endocrinologist when i get a call back, due to my referral
10:19
im gonna medically transition if its the last thing id do
10:20
and id rather die than be a woman, and kill everyone who calls me a woman
10:20
i do not, in any way, understand how you think im a woman
10:20
or what i can do to prove im a man
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You know I can actually read diagnosis right and they're catering to you for autism (no records received)
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i dont understand what that means, but the reason the autism records werent there was because i grew up in california and the medical office we went to didnt have a way to transfer records
10:22
im medicated, with risperdal for my autism, zoloft for my ocd, and trazodone for my severe insomnia
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What state are you in now that they can't transfer it? Alabama?
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arizona
10:23
im in a backwoods town in arizona
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I got a place down there
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they transferred some of them, but it was locked with a password & theres communication issues
10:24
im sorry i got so upset about this, but ive experienced dysphoria my entire life, and nothing has helped transition was my last resort, and i started socially transitioning after my diagnosis when i was 16 i wasnt allowed to dress or act like a man until then, either
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I got beat for acting too womanly
10:26
Still did it
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i was scared to hurt or disappoint my parents
10:27
i kinda did everything they told me to without question
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Plenty kids do that true but like
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i get we've had completely different trans experiences, its...not really comprehensive to me why you hate me all the sudden and think im faking when im being completely honest im not really someone with agency, i dont even know who i am at thid point, i just kinda exist and suffer so much, if i was a man i'd at the very least not want to cut my breasts off while awake
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I don't hate you
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i dont know anything about my personality, either
10:30
oh
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I just genuinely like you come off way more as woman to me
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oh, thsnk you
10:31
i guess its my naturally polite & severely emotional nature, in a way. im only rude when overcome with emotion
10:31
i just wish i knew who i am
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Yeah that's one of the big reasons lol
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i get that
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So if you don't know who you are, why you wanting to kill others for not knowing who you are?
10:32
Why are you holding all of us to a higher standard than you hold yourself?
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in person i tend to use more masculine body language and it pissed off my abusive grandmother, which was funny but bsck on topic, its moreso that if i was told to list my personality traits, how i see myself, or my hobbies, i genuinely dont know i just know i get severely dysphoric when called a woman and usually take it out on myself or others, but i get extremely happy when called a man, and i plan to fully medically transition
10:34
i guess i see calling me a woman as a lie meant to manipulate others or hurt me and that freaks me out
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Why would it be?
10:35
I mean yeah totally is that sometimes but
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because in my life experience, it isnt true, and ive only recently started learning why people lie for reasons other than being on accident or for personal protection
10:37
even as a small child i tended to throw people under the bus because i didnt lie as a first response
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(you're a stunted adult you have a way better qol and lifespan not being a man I hate to say it but it's so much worse how men are treated and you haven't the foggiest about the difference) As a small child I'd get scapegoated a lot because I defend others
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...ahy did you post our dms on lcf
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You still haven't learned your lesson
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what?
10:39
just stop lying about me, please
10:39
im nor a woman
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Oh I'm not lying
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you are you fucking cunt
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They'd ban me for using he is all
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ah
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nvm
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sorry
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but like i really am a man, i just i know i shouldnt be so upset about this
10:40
having a mood disorder will do that, though
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Yeah but you keep making excuses for your bad behavior
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what are yoy talking about
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>having a mood disorder is why I called you a cunt then apologized a split second later
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thats not why it was because i got pissed off and theres no excuse for that
10:42
i should have waited for your response
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See you can be a man
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yeah, i was about to ask if theres anything i can do to prove im not a trender
10:44
i have a feeling ill chill the fuck out either 1. when i get t 2. when they find out what the hell is wrong with both my reproductive problems and seemingly extremely unusual hormonal levels & how i was born
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That last part maybe but t will make it harder for you to control your emotions
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ah, yeah ive heard they make them stronger but stop shedding tears
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Full disclosure I'm tard wrangling you, if you get too unhinged I will leak that in particular but I'll never lie to hurt you or give you bad advice
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thank you
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Yeah it's way easy to cry on estrogen
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i appreciate that
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If I wasn't doing this right now someone else would, and they wouldn't be trans so they wouldn't give a shit about you being a man.
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but seriously, last time i spoke to my pcp he said i needed an ultrasound & endo appointment, but the ultrasound was because it seems to him that i have either a tumor or cysts, and the endo was for trans stuff but nobody's gotten back yet
10:47
thanj you
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i appreciate it
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Don't accept new friend requests atm
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alright
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Yeah it's likely ovarian cysts
10:48
Get those removed and you'll be more comfortable moving around
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yeah, it runs in my family genetically, ironically ive never seen a gyno but i also have never had the urge to check it out, i do know its abnormal, though
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It's likely why you're physically uncomfortable and it can fuck with hormone production and a ton of other things
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definitely
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So get that removed and honestly your brain might not get dysphoria anymore you know that right?
10:51
Even when I didn't physically pass at all I felt happier
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i dunno tbh, but my dysphoria has kinda been lifelong, it wasnt sudden or anything i hope thatll help
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Exactly, the cysts are lifelong too
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like born with them or
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Remember that one kiwi who detransed? She had a cyst, all her stuff went away when it got removed
10:52
You're usually born with them iirc
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i didnt hear about that
10:52
ah
10:52
because specifically, fibroids, tumors, and endometriosis run in my family
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whiteglove
i didnt hear about that
You were too busy attacking her to read her whole posts
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ah
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Starting to learn a lesson here?
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yeah
10:53
im too angry and concerned with defending myself
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10:53
i wish the dysphoria would stop by any means, but like iirc fibroids develop over time
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but i could be wrong about that
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Yeah those are different than the ovarian cyst thing
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i get in such severe pain i sleep all day and feel sick
10:54
ah
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Which what you just described yeah that's the symptom of overian cysts my god the health system chronically fucks afabs
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yeah, definitely but i hope either doctor responds
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Does the euphoria come from the label or from people listening to you?
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both honestly, but mostly people hearing me out and realizing that i really am suffering and know why i want to be called a man and why being a man gives me euphoria
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in california we had health care 24/7 and can instantly make appointments, but because of my grandma i was forced to delay my endo appointments, and because of covid the gyno refused to see me, gave me birth control which made the dysphoria significantly worse and made me self harm after being clean, and he just laughed and told me to keep taking them
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so i dumped them
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Yeah that's fair there, some doctors are not worth it
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yeah
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>mostly people hearing me out and realizing I am suffering You want to be heard
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its the birth control significantly worsening my dysphoria that made me realize i should probably get testosterone, a low dose at first, to see if that helps, since estrogen made it worse
11:00
and that makes sense
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Birth control is more than just estrogen, it would inflame the cyst on your ovary
11:01
Men don't want others to see them in pain
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im not someone who does this shit lol so it aint the label
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I say these things because you clearly grew up around weak men
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yeah, i get that. thank you for the advice on how to pass better
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im not someone who does this shit lol so it aint the label
Why do you look down upon them?
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irl i had to learn to hide being emotional so my parents & sister dont ask questions
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i look down upon them because they post shit with their tits out and claim to be a gay man
11:04
I do get it but then why do you think it's not fair for others to question your masculinity?
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fair enough i just kinda blame people like that for why nobody sees me as a man when i do everything i know how
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I don't cause I've learned there's a ton of ppl that won't accept that but will accept me
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same with me but like im sure its very obvious that second to anger, paranoia is my biggest problem
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Yuuuupp
11:14
Which is not a good combo to go to kiwi with
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true
11:15
when fate decided my biggest of the 7 deadly sins, they really hit all but lust and greed
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Greed is a tricky thing to define when it's more than just gelt
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yeah
11:16
its wanting to hoard/stockpile gluttony is wanting more and using more thsn you should
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Yes but of concepts too
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You're greedy for attention are you not?
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yeah
11:17
im not
11:18
most of my retarded bullshit is done on accident, then me harassing myself as a form of self harm once i realize my fuck up
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On kiwi you made every topic about yourself tho and not in like you had an anecdote and ppl are tripping a bit too much but like legitimately made it about yourself
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Do you not realize that?
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thats just how i talk, its been brought up to me but i dont understand
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How do you think you didn't make it about you let's start with that
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most of the time i explain topics & speculate based on things ive seen or i slapfight with people who start it first
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>most of the time I, as 19 year old with no life experience tinfoil at random and explain things from my view not realizing that many others are 30 and went through the same thing. >I can't help but eat bait, I'm not being dragged into slap fights by the same ppl but rather eating up bait that anyone lays out proving they can get a reaction for me and encouraging them to do it more.
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That's how I read that fyi
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oh
11:24
yeah that explains it
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God you're autistic lmfao
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yyyyep
11:25
i was dx with autism and ocd at 8, had an iep plan and tard wranglers
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Yeah and like you're funny but not when you're provoked into anger, sure it's funny you called me a cunt and reversed it right away but like it's not as funny as someone else sperging
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i agree
11:27
its not right of me
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So I worry about you getting the wrong trolls
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i agree, absolutely
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Cause you are a cow but you blew through the good caring farmers lol
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checked kf and someone made a dedicated alog account LOL
11:27
thats true
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Oh yeah you're fucked kiddo
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definitely, unfortunately but its funny because some farmers still like me. the main reason ive got a lot of people who hate me is because of my stubborn nature
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And the whole violence thing that turned like everyone against you
11:29
You had 6 months of clemency and somehow made it worse lol
11:29
And that's funny
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yeah
11:29
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Lmaooooo
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that made me laugh tbh
11:30
but its hard to explain how i dont have a proper grasp on controlling my anger
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You're autistic
11:30
That's why
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i say everything unfiltered and actually used to warn people "hey if i say some shitty things im sorry in advance"
11:31
and yeah
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Learn a filter
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ill do that
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Even I have a filter and people like me for being True and Honest ™
11:31
Sometimes things need to be said a certain way so it's not lying to do so
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thats sweet! i hope i can be like that some day, too
11:33
its possible to get threads locked or taken down, or dead, but it requires turning shit around or going radio silent
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Yeah and uh on trans ones it doesn't matter
11:34
There are alogs who will keep hounding you
11:34
They might even all end up getting banned and still doing it from a hamburger boilers forum
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They might spam CP and blame you
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im si sorry
11:35
ive fucked up bad havent i
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Yeah
11:36
And you had a ton of farmers try to help you
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My first week there a guy got into a slap fight with me that's still ongoing
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My threads known to be a disaster
11:37
You don't have those benefits
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by "help me" they meant try to convince me to detrans, one even admitted it publicly thats what he meant hell, in the telegram, nobody tried to help me stop sperging out, they just tried to make me detrans
11:38
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Not the telegram
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oh
11:39
what do you mean, then?
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Bah you won't be able to see it now cause a few have just switched to telling you to detrans cause they got tired of trying
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i dont remember anyone genuinely trying to help me tbh
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Yeah you're both trusting and suspicious at the same time so I'm not surprised you missed it
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that tracks
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This is the path of the incel, you sure you want to take this path?
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is that really what incels are like? trusting yet suspicious of others?
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Yupp and also most of the ppl on kiwi tho honestly since you pissed off BP you'll get the ppl who can actually dig up info
11:44
Nobody knows what college I went to because nobody good enough cares
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well that was retarded
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You said kill all feminists.....in BP....
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i forget bp girls are unhinged
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Nah they're ridiculously hinged, that's the scary part WG
11:46
The scrotes are a pack of retards coasting off their work lol
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jesus
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And to make it even worse you have posts attacking trannies
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rip
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Anyone who finds out I have a kiwi thread goes oh god you're trans of course you do and I get sympathy
11:48
You blew that option
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i somehow picked a fight with everyone and thought it was a good idea when i was hyper as hell
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yeeeah this aint gonna end well
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Terf Trans exclusionary radical feminist What does this imply?
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radfems who hate trans women but suck up to trans men. which is disgusting
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Why exclude trans from radfems?
11:50
Cause some trans are radfems
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i never thought about that
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Not everyone on LC or BP is a terf but most of us are radfems to some degree
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thats interesting tbh
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Yeah but it means as a trans man you called for the death of trans women
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i mostly hate radfems for a mix of their unironic sexism & terfs for tgeir transphobia
11:51
i didnt think about that
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sorry
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Don't apologize to me I'm just letting you know how far of a hole you dug
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thank you
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99% of what i do is on impulse & because it sounds really funny or smart in the meantime
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So how did a semi-fed post come off as smart or funny to do? Jw
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oh no that was because of an impulse of anger ty for pointing that out
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So you think that only happens 1% of the time?
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no i just forgot to add anger to the 99%
12:00
the 1% is not impulsive
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Why act on impulse when it goes so badly for you?
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i dunno, it just kinda happens
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Developing self control sounds like a good idea then eh?
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yes
12:06
i mean even my eating habits are done without thinking and seemingly on instinct
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Then you're just an animal you know that right?
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i didnt realize that?
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shit
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You've lived your life as a slave to your impulses
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thats true
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Why do you expect anyone to perceive you as a man?
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because im dysphoric
12:08
is this a test to try and make me spasm out again?
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No. It's to get you to understand how human perception works.
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ohhh
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Making you sperg is too easy there's no sport in it
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that makes sense
12:09
im usually pretty good at masculine body language but the moment i open my mouth its over lol
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Well tbf men just move clumsily
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and im autistic so
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lmao
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People still perceive me as a woman when I have a man's voice come out
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i usually get confused for a 12 year old boy irl
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You're gonna hate me for saying this but that's how you've acted from what I've seen
12:13
Tell me WG, do you know what energy vampires are?
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uhhh, people who are very needy and stupid & generally need people to rely on to function, which upsets everyone around them?
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Wrong
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oh
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We feed off suffering
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really?
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And you wandered into a few separate groups of them
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that makes sense why people kick me around like a football
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Yupp
12:28
Eating
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yeah
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That's why a few enjoy the irony of you larping as a vampire
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that makes sense lmao
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When you got angry at me I felt more energized
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oh shit
12:29
thats interesting
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The more often someone does the better I can feed
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that explains why some people get the appeal of lolcows
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Yeah you're stumbling upon the truth too late
12:31
If anything we are the white glove society and you're in our basement
12:31
See the irony here?
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fuckin ted gunderson lmao
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I'm banned because I fed off josh
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lmao
12:31
or benny when captured by the legion
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Essentially
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i love that analogy ty
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I figured it would convey the point best
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it did
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Now you know why some lolcows age so fast
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yeah, stress
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Energy drained
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theres a couple stay gray hairs on the side of my head, in front of my ears
12:33
so yeah
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You're like veal being placed in a wolf's den damn
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yeah
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You thought you were a wolf huh
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kinda
12:35
im like fucking moon moon
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Moon moon?
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old tumblr meme about a retarded wolf
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Well that's the issue, you're more like a rabbit
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ah
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Knives out means to eat
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yeah usually when i get compared to animals, its a rabbit or pig
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They were likely having you as a pet lolcalf in the telegram or w/e and then decided it wasn't fixable and once you did those two threat posts on the LC thread you became open game
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ah
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You didn't use the opportunity of the site going down to leave
12:45
That's what saved you the last time
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the tg ban was in october, oddly
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Yeah
12:46
And you've been bleeding out since
12:46
The energy vampire thing wasn't an analogy
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yeah
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I was one of the ppl who helped bring the site down temporarily so I gotta ask, why did you go back?
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boredom
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lmao
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Why not go anywhere else for a society?
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idk
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Cause all you do is on impulse?
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yeah
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Why do you live like this?
12:52
....oh god
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i dont know
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You're like fucking Shinji
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shinji?
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From Evangelion
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ah
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You're a pathetic pushover who does what others want to get them to like you
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thats true
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That's what your impulses have brought you to
12:55
Why live like that?
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ive never experienced much else
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Sounds like you've never been pushed
13:02
Just coddled
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pretty much i was spanked by my dad when little & yelled at sometimes, but seldom anything else my grandparents were abusive, but i lived with them, with the rest of my family too, for a year and a half
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Physically abusive or?
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verbally, mentally, religiously, and to an extent medically, mostly but the day i got thrown out for being trans was the day it got physical
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How did that go?
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i had to scurry up to oregon for a couple months because only my brother in law and eldest sister were able to take us in. it was only my mom and i who were unwelcome, but still, it meant we had nowhere to go my brother in law was, unbeknownst to us, on meth, and would squander all our money & take a week to send us there literally arriving december 23rd, 2021 where he then proceeded to force me to masturbate with his butt plug the following january in his car while he watched, and we soon after had to move in with my nana (maternal grandma) until the end of February because my brother blamed the financial & other abuse on my mom
13:15
i wasnt allowed to bathe or shower because it was reserved for their baby, too
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Did you ever report that to the police?
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the grandparents stuff? yes, but they took the side of my grandpa because he was a navy vet the brother stuff? no, because i tried telling mom to ask for help and she yelled at me for "bringing down the mood," she would listen later on, but not until months later
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Yes the brother stuff that's clearly worse
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yeah
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Why didn't your mom report that?
13:20
After she listened
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because we moved to arizona, she didnt want to deal with that, and they probably wouldn't care anyways
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Yet you cared enough to report your grandparents
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i do care, but i wasnt allowed to keep talking about the brother shit after initially bringing it up
13:32
and simultaneously, i dont know how to report cross state cases
13:33
thankfully hes out of my life now
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Why would your mom not report that after that guy lied about her to her family?
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i dont know shes a rape victim (hence my eldest sister existing) but i cant get inside her head or anything
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hes already got the cops on him for other shit iirc, but i wish i could get more shit crammed in
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Just seems odd to me she's cover that up when it would turn the tables completely is all
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same here
13:36
she might just not know where to turn to herself
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She did to report your grandparents
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no, i called 911 without her asking because my grandpa pinned my mom to the wall after standing in their way
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Ohhhh
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but when its in a state you don't live in, it makes reporting crimes harder
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Yes
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but overall, im not as upset by it anymore since his entire life went to shit
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Ngl I'm still upset about my rapes and ones dead and the others rotting in jail, it's impactful trauma
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that makes a lot of sense tbh
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Yeah your reaction makes less sense tbh
13:43
But that's how that goes
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if i was raped, like actually with human body parts rather than assaulted with an object, i think i would too. but i think im apathetic towards it because its not something that permanently impacted my life
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You don't think it's affected you at all?
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it did, but it never traumatized me more than i already was, but it did permanently sever that relationship
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So you were sex averse to such a degree before this?
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yeah, i kinda always have been
13:52
never understood the appeal in the first place, i get curious about sexual things that dont involve undressing, though
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Spose that makes sense to me
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yeah
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Yaknow there's straps that let you feel stimulation from the shaft of it as you peg someone right?
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never heard of that, but that sounds awesome!
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What kinda transmen have you met, my god lol
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ones that usually don't tall about that stuff, tbh and like half the ones ive met are autistic too lol
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And don't get upset but has it ever occured to you that you only met trenders?
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no? i hang around transmed circles, though
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Protip we call those transexual not transgender
14:04
And how many of those are happy?
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ohhhh theyre all happy with the changes, with one exception, she detransed into a radfem, but not a trans exclusionary one
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Are they happy with their lives
14:06
Happy in general?
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one has a rocky relationship with both parents, but otherwise hes usually the happiest in the group
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How many trans women do you know?
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ive known two besides you, ones still on good terms with me, the other is a (personal) lolcow from the czech republic, who used to be my friend, but she was a backstabber, hoarder, doxed her own mother, wouldnt shower for months on end, and spent all day on tf2 or gambling in genshin
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Ah I see
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yeah
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You've bullied quite a few ppl huh
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nah, she actually started bullying me so i saved pics of her room and started laughing about her in private
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There's a lolcow called Rachel who claims similar things is all
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interesting
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Thing is she always starts it
14:16
I bully very few, I'm a moralfag so it's not often what I enjoy
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lmao lolcows usually do start shit & get burned by it
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And what just happened to you
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i did that
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Yes
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unfortunately
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You were a cow that wandered into the slaughterhouse
14:29
And you enjoyed eating the other cows
14:29
But now it's your time and suddenly you don't like it
14:30
Ya wanted to play vampire and when chased out of the shallow end you flung yourself even deeper but worse yet
14:31
You jumped into the arms of one of the most feared vampires
14:31
One so bad Josh couldn't handle them being on site
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yeah, thats accurate
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I wonder, are you self aware or self reactive?
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whats self reactive mean? because im not self aware & need people to bring shit up to me for me to understand
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That's what self reactive is
14:34
It's lower functioning than most children
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oh
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There's been a reoccurring thought to me, does my dog have more of an ability to choose than you do? And if so, does she have a soul? What entitles you to one through birth alone?
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i don't know, honestly
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You can't argue for your existence as a human yet you argue online and bully others for your own amusement? Are you aware of what that makes you?
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what does that make me?
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A parasite feeding off of others
14:38
You can't even create thoughts
14:39
Watch this and tell me what you get from it
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that i mindlessly attack & i get scared off easily?
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Not quite
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ah
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You wandered into a place where monsters do battle
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thats true
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What does Machiavellian mean in actuality?
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i used to know the term, but i forgot
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It's a type of sociopath that only preys on ppl who prey on others
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oh shit
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We need a justification you see
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that makes perfect sense tbh
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And what did I tell you I was at the start of this conversation
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I suppose it makes more sense when you know who I'm known to avatarfag as
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oh definitely
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So. What put you in the position to bully others?
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people who have personally hurt me, or people who have committed violent or sexual crimes
14:48
those are who ive mostly gone after
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And you're a capable avenger because?
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well im not, but sometimes people deserve to be laughed at. me too, but at least im open about it
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In your hubris you worried about your personal satisfaction over results
14:53
Watch this, it sums up exactly my message to you
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thank you for telling me, ill watch it in a second
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so, essentially, we're different sides of the coin? what hurts me, benefits you, but what benefits me, hurts you? and because of that, i shouldnt seek justice and just walk away?
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Incorrect
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ah
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Everyone has their own sense of justice when dragged into a cycle of hatred
15:00
How do you stop that cycle?
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i have to stop engaging
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You have to stop hating
15:04
One more, what is the lesson in this one?
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im sorry im having a panic attack rn
15:04
i literally just got banned from a server, but the owners arent communicating
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What did I warn you happened with the other server?
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what are you talking about
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What is the focus of that server?
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did you do it
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How would I?
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i dont know
15:06
but it was a very small group of documenting very old lolcows
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I was wondering what the focus was because if it's lolcow adjacent well you're poo now so touching you is against the rules
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what are you talking about
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You can't keep a lolcow in your server, it never ends well even if you're not milking them
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Unless that server isn't related to kiwi at all
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apparently it was because i snapped and went flaggot mode on my alog
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Huh, interesting timing then I can see why you'd suspect me as that's exactly the lesson I was teaching you at that time
15:09
But time is my thing
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yeah i get that
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Universe is trying to tell you something methinks
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yeah that makes sense it kind of always does
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Well let's hope you weren't lying all the times you said made sense
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well clearly i need to stop flagging, for one
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Mhmm what else
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i should stop attempting to troll
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And what else
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um, develop a more solid personality, hear others out, stop being violent, develop self control
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Yupp sounds about right
15:27
Think ya can do that?
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alright good
15:27
and yes, i do. itll take time but be worth it
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Good change always takes time
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yes
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Now that I've given you plenty of sound advice to live by what do you think I'm going to do next?
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test that?
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See, you are clever
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good
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How do you think I will test that?
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its a surprise to me, but my guess is post excerpts to lcf or call me a trender
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Nah I think you're just a fool who's likely a man but hasn't grown up so how's one to tell the difference? So I won't call you a trender
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that makes sense
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So why did it take until me for you to comprehend this?
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i kinda always knew i was mentally, emotionally, and socially delayed by the way i get treated, but not to this extent
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You needed someone to be blunt with you huh
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yeah
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Okay then I'm gonna go easy on what I release and see if you have learned from this. If you did then hey congrats but I'm irked that someone in your irl didn't say this kinda shit sooner, maybe it wasn't the right time or place but
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yeah
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Tbh most of what I said was echo'd in that thread where you were slapfighting
15:38
I just rephrased it
15:38
I think others have told you so I'm not sure if you'll be able to change or not
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i dont know either
15:40
i usually can for awhile but certain things instantly set me off
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Yeah set you off to the point where like honestly I'm glad you're not on t so you don't have the strength to carry out those threats
15:41
There's two types of unhinged, funny/nonsense and anger and you fall into the latter
15:42
Do you believe in karma?
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yes
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Yours likely needs fixing
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true
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How much have you benefitted others lately?
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not much, i was for awhile but usually i run away when hurt, not after fighting tho
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Exactly
15:52
You've turned yourself into a monster
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im sorry
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No need to apologize to me for it
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okay
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Gotta make a choice, there's a few routes to go
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okay
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What path do you want to go down?
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i dont know what my options are
15:57
Try again
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uhhhhh, i guess ill lay low for awhile and hope things work out
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Sounds like a cowards route. The laying low isn't a bad idea but hoping is not something to gamble on
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true
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You've been looking online for help in all the wrong places for years
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true
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Hoping things work out is you wanting others to fix your problems for you again
16:00
And idc about transmed shit
16:00
It's in the soul
16:00
Men accept help sure but good men fix their own problems
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Adults find ways to fix their own problems
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thats interesting. the mental delay kinda makes me significantly more immature than i should be
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Mhmm
16:04
There's two reasons I don't need to care about my opsec 1. My alogs all are drama queens who hate each other and thus if I don't make myself apparent they're too busy fighting each other. 2. I'm an actual farmer, I've brought so much milk you wouldn't believe it. Others say that I do the work of 5 and it's honestly true. I'm an example of a sane tranny and any mature farmer and any oldfag appreciates that even if the newfags are just transphobic as all hell.
16:05
I can stand up for myself, currently you can't
16:05
Due to this my suggestion is to switch up names and everything and avoid anything tangentially related to the farms, find new hobbies and new groups, find happy and mature trans ppl like me we are out there
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i appreciate that
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im super attached to my current accounts, but i definitely plan on dropping the farms asap
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Yupp you need tough love and that's what I do
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Yeah sooner the better
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Don't tell anyone we spoke
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Don't talk to farmers
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Find new shit
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alright
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If you can do that then congrats you're the first lolcow I've saved, done this eight times now
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hell yeah
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I've been around for a long time
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i can tell
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Delete your account or scramble the password today
16:14
On kiwi
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uhhhhh you can't delete the accounts anymore, and i can reset my password if i get desperate, but while im hesitant about this, i know i need to get off, or else itll hurt me, though
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After all this you still want to keep your kiwi account?
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its moreso out of paranoia than wanting to engage
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Wat
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ive been refreshing proving grounds pretty obsessively
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Oh it's only a matter of time
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yeah
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once the thread goes live, i have no reason to keep my account
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Especially after I leak, well the moralfags will even see it as justified.
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jesus
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You admitted to bullying others a ton
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thats true, i know i have, but typically i was not the one to do it first, when i did it was people like cwc after raping his mom, ppp after fumbling accusations of cp
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that kind of thing
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What kinda stuff did you do with Chris? I'm also curious on the lesbian but more on chris
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i mostly farmed reaction scores by pointing out how retarded people on twitter were for defending him
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Well that's not really bullying Same thing with PPP?
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with ppp i pointed out his bmi, caloric intake, drew art to make fun of him, but i never bothered him personally
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So you threw out two pretty shitty dudes, one who is in jail for raping his own mom. You don't bully them but instead young women like the trans women and feminists on Tumblr?
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nah, on tumblr i tend to leave trans people alone unless they attack me first, in which i do what they do to me with feminists, i usually wait for them to interact first, but when they post transphobic or sexist shit ill make a snarky comment and wait for them to take the bait the reason why i never weened off chris or ppp, is because i didnt want to make myself a target
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So you used them as troll shields?
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yeah
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To attack young trannies and women
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if thats what i described, i guess so
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And you think you're justified in doing that?
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am i not?
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if anything its just me doing what dyn does on the farms
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What is it you think dyn actually does?
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starts shit by baiting, then makes fun of them for falling for it
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And walks away
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Did you ever walk away?
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sometimes yes, sometimes no. mostly yes, theres very few people i continuously fuck with after the first couple interactions
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Then why do you have two containment threads?
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because on kiwi, im not good at dropping shit like i am on tumblr and tend to be the one falling for bait instead
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So you're not doing what dyns doing
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ah
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Why did you assume yourself to be an exception?
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i thought i could be "one of the good ones"
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Isn't that what pick mes do
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do those actually exist
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Yes
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i thought that was a term feminists used for trans men
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No that's used mainly for women, terfs use it for trans men and feminists use it for some who claim to be trans men
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Because it's feminine behavior nonna
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oh
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i just want everyone to like me
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I know Shinji
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lmao
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lmao
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Nervous laughter won't get you out of this reality
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I've seen you trying to control others
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I've seen you when you think you're safe
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what?
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How can you be so pathetic that you have to laugh off something so damning?
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no im confused
16:55
when was i controlling others?
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You laughed before that
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oh
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So you werent confused
16:55
You lied
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how the fuck was i lying?
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You lied in how the events occured to make yourself look better, very simple
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no, i didnt
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You laughed before I said that I saw you try to control others
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So confusion can't have caused your laughter
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i was confused about you calling me controlling but i laughed because of the image
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You laughed when I called you shinji too
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yeah, and i havent seen evangelion tbh
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You should at least watch a character evaluation on shinji as he's you
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alright
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It's very much not a good thing
17:00
You've acted so tough and now you're just rolled over on your back
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i can tell by the way youre describing this
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I just don't get it personally
17:01
What's a man to you? Just a penis?
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no, not necessarily i think personality has nothing to do with it, but the way they carry themselves, the way they present themselves, et cetera is about it for example, feminine cis men can exist because theyve already got male body parts, but trans guys have to at least attempt to pass
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So yes pretty much penis means guy for you
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oh
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Views like that are likely why you don't know many trans women
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im sorry, i genuinely didnt realize that
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I know you didn't, like you said, you don't think you act on impulse
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Like a wild beast
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yeah
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So kid I know you know what farmers are but do you know what hunters are?
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oh no
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From where I'm sitting you've only hurt others for a long while now
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im sorry
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You've been begging since the start
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i guess ive got very evil karma
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As a creature of instinct don't you find it odd that so often you bite your tongue with me?
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no, but since youve made it clear youre testing me, i have to attempt to think
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So you can learn to a degree
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yeah
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What do you want most in life?
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i want a solid group of friends i can both rely on and help out
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But what do you want for yourself?
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people to have as friends
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That's fair and I do get it but for yourself
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for myself? as in a purely self serving thing?
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Yes hence why people is a bad answer
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then i guess itd be to transition
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Assume you were born a man, what then
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i'd want to never be forgotten, but simultaneously never lied about if i cannot live forever, i can make sure its like i never died
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That's it?
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yeah, why? its like the only thing that makes me suicidal is when i feel like all i care about is taken away, but otherwise im extremely afraid of death
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Fucking quoting ozymandeus to me straight faced is all lmfao
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who?
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Exactly
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lmao
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Your wish is impossible
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i know
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so thats why i listed the possible ones first
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It's also rather vainglorious
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as in narcissistic?
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Correct, as is desiring others most
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ah
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It's actually greedy
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jesus
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There's many ways to answer that question
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okay
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If it's purely for myself I'd likely say inner peace, if I could expand it id removed PTSD
17:32
Friends are good yes but true happiness can only be found on your own
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Others are a crutch
17:33
While we are social creatures you put yourself first out of survival, if you put others first you can fall into a pit of greed, not live your own life, become a slave, many more and any combo of them
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thats true
17:35
i guess my biggest trigger for spergouts are both betrayal and lies. and according to others most of those lies are just how i come off to people, or traits i didnt realize i have
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Yeah
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And thus not really lies eh?
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yeah, youre right but in the moment it feels like slander
17:36
so its really hard for me to see the other side
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So you've attacked ppl giving you honest advice then eh
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no, when they explain why, to my face, its not something i tend to attack over, maybe ill have an outburst, but i wont go scorched earth my problem is people saying shit behind my back
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You threatened to kill all feminists over one bitch that nobody actually likes poking you a bit
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Js
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nobody likes her? rip
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Yeah but you're new and probably wouldn't be able to pick up on socks anyways but yes you attacked a buncha ppl who don't like that person over what they said
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good point
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Explain how that's justified. Explain how it's not just akin to throwing a tantrum?
17:50
Can you?
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its not justified, but in the moment i thought i was defending my dignity and that i wasnt gonna let someone call me bpd when it wasnt true. id rather show a now outdated diagnosis list than let people say something untrue
17:51
even then ive known awesome people with bpd, but i personally dont have it
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So you thought that threatening to kill others would help counter the claim that you're bipolar?
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bpd as in borderline, not bipolar
17:52
and that really didnt help my case now that you point it out
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Why are you trolling others if you can't handle it?
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because ive heard legendary stories about it since i was 13 and became genuinely obsessed
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Where did you hear about kiwi from?
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i heard people mention it in video essays, but i saw people bitching about it and linking threads on tumblr and made my account after searching for subjects that interested me
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So ppl complained about a place that hurt them and you went there
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yeah, but it was on the blog of someone who was antagonistic towards me, so i figured why not?
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So you've been hanging around kiwifarms discords since you were 13 or?
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no, i used kf when i turned 18 and didn't go to it myself when first learning of it
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What did you do in those 5 years then?
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watch lolcow content, but not engage
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Were you in any communities during that time?
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It sounds like you were in two discords about lolcows until recently, when did you join those? Just trying to figure out a timeline
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i was in the rogue internet man community from 2019-2021, and for the most part i steered clear until finding splinter communities that thought of me as redeemed in december
18:13
so that large chunk of time was keeping lolcow content exclusively on yt and kiwi, with occasional lcf shit
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When did you turn 18? (edited)
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june 6, 2021
18:15
my kiwi account was made in july 2021
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So you were in rogues discord when you were 16 or?
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yes, but over half the channels required turning 18 and showing an id to join
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so we essentially had general, memes, and music
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Was there no nsfw in your part of the discord? Bit weird imo as I just go to 18+ ones so idk how those work
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not until you showed an id, then all the lolcow, shitpost, nsfw discussion, nsfw art, and porn channels were there
18:19
as well as the active vcs and politics
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So what was the age limit of the sfw section? Bit weird that he's essentially doxing ppl to talk about lolcows but I do get the need to prove someone's age
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sfw was for people 13 to 17, i heard after my ban it was changed to 16 to 17
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You have any proof of him having 13 year olds in there?
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no, i didnt screenshot randos in there, honestly so my memory could be off
18:22
i was 16 when i joined
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Okay cause that does make a bit of a difference there tho I'm not really a fan of anyone under 18 being in spaces where you watch lolcows, seems rather creepy to me
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yeah lmao
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So what were those other communities?
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i was in a few vocaloid communities, got kicked from all of them due to shit i did in 2018 combined with not respecting shit like it/its
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What'd you do in 2018?
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i was in two servers with a bunch of at-the-time small vocaloid producers, i would infodump about all of my very...disgusting hyperfixations (examples: tcc, edgy memes), was never explained how those were bad and i never had anyone explain anything to me they ban me after an argument (over politics, but idr much else), i try asking whats wrong and they snap at me, shittalk me at every opportunity, snitched to ghost, one of if not the biggest western producer, although they were smaller at the time, ghost bitches about me publicly when they were 20 or so and i was 15, so i threatened to dump their vsqxs (vocaloid file they put on their patreon for $20) and someone manipulated me into giving them it so ghost spergs again and i found out said person tortured cats for fun
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so then i went and sent a bunch of anons wishing harm on them, one producer DFEing and another writing two songs about me
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What's TCC? You helped out a guy who tortures cats against ghost and then personal armied for physical harm on them?
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i didn't know he abused animals until ghost told me
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but the tcc is shit like serial killer/mass murderers
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Did ghost ever show you proof?
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no, but everyone who yelled at me said it so i thought it was true
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ghost also used to be infamous for sending their fans after people for fun, or in an attempt to cancel people before that was a term
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So you turned on the person who you gave it to over what ppl who hated both of you said with no evidence? >TCC fixation Like you watch murder documentaries or? >Ghost is any Twitter z-celeb Yeah which is why I'm surprised you took his word for it without any receipts
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1. no, i asked about it, they more or less said they were a child and then sperged out and threatened to dox me immediately after, so then i cut them off 2. no i mean columbine worship type shit. i was getting bullied at 14 and dropped it p much the day i turned 15, but i thought killing my school bullies was my only way out 3. yeah, but when youre 15 and want to be just like them and love everything they make, youll do anything
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1. Yeah but I mean calling them a cat killer especially since they're a minor is a big jump ergo turning on them. 2. Well has this changed? You said you'd kill anyone who doesn't see you as a man today, to me. 3. So you watched his stuff for a year then joined his discord? Do you have any personal DMs with him or just idealized him from afar?
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1. true 2. yes, i found out how disgusting that was and bettered myself, but simultaneously, threatening to kill others is the only way i know how to protect myself 3. nah; i watched ghost since 2014, when i was 11. when i decided i really wanted to be a beloved vocaloid producer, and make people happy. the producers servers i joined were zionxyz and chiptune123. chip was the one that dfe'd
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and no, i had no personal dms with ghost on any of my current accounts; but i was invited to a gc with them
18:48
in 2018
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2. How does escalating to the ultimate violence protecting you? It just shows that if you grew up in a place that didn't coddle you or as a man you'd just get the shit beat out of you on a daily basis. 3. Did you have any personal DMs with Zion or chip? How old were they at the time. What's a gc?
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2. you have a good point. i just never learned what else to do 3. i dont remember, but zion was 15 (about to turn 16), i was 14 (about to turn 15), and chip just turned 14
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2. Why didn't you look for other options? 3. So you were invited to this GC with 2 other minors where Ghost was? (edited)
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2. i dont know 3. ghost was either 19 or 20
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2. Cause you're lazy 3. So an adult invited you to a gaming convention? Was the plan to share a hotel room?
18:57
Have you ever stood up for yourself really or just taken your anger out on women? Just curious
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2. true 3. LMAOOOO but i mostly take my anger out on women because women are the ones that go for my throat
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3. I was being honest 4. I've only seen you ever back down from those you consider men.
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i dont consider you a man. i back down because youre clearly smarter than me and seem to know me more than i know myself
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So you back down from me and men but not other women due to a perceived lack of intelligence?
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i only back down when i know i wont win an argument or when im so frustrated i storm off, or when i care about someone most women i interact with are bitchy, and don't fight when they pick one
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How do they pick fights in your eyes?
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being rude or snippity
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Someone not liking you is picking a fight?
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not necessarily, only when they try to argue
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A woman expressing her opinion is trying to argue?
19:12
Do you want to transition to a man so that you can silence women?
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no, i want to transition to recognize my body
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Answer the first question please
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not necessarily, sometimes they can call me retarded and thats not picking a fight
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Calling you retarded isn't picking a fight so then what is?
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accusing me of shit that isnt true
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Like what?
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like saying i have borderline
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But you admitted you act like you have it sometimes
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i dont remember that, but i dont doubt you
19:18
i know im excessively clingy like i have it, at least
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whiteglove
and that really didnt help my case now that you point it out
Right here
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i said saying id kill others didnt help
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Help the perception of you having bpd was the context
19:19
How ya gonna spin that one
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ohhh
19:20
i dont know what i was thinking
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Admitting to it and then trying to wiggle out of it now? Yeah idk what you're thinking either.
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im not trying to wiggle out of it
19:21
i genuinely dont remember
19:21
but the proof is there, so i said it
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Yeah see the issue here, you admit faults then forget about them and never change
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oh
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Why would anyone want to be friends with someone who lies about being sorry?
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but i am sorry. i feel bad for everything, and feeling bad is feeling sorry
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Feeling guilty isn't feeling sorry, repenting and changing is. Some serial killers feel guilty but they keep killing so they're clearly not sorry.
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i didnt know that
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You fixated on how cool they were and missed the point on everything
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yeah
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So I'll ask again
19:27
Why would anyone want to be friends with someone who lies about being sorry?
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but i wasnt lying, i genuinely didnt know
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Claiming to know something without knowing it is
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Lying
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i didnt know that
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That's always your excuse dude
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but im serious
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You can remember all these details of things that happened to you but not your mistakes
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my memory is fucking atrocious, i remember bits and pieces, but some whole events are wiped, my psych described it as being stress based but im not sure if thats accurate
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i should
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Yeah I mean you want to be a man right?
19:32
But you've been bitching and moaning and acting like a huge pussy to me
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honestly at this point, between me forgetting shit and people accusing me of shit that i genuinely dont recall, im starting to think maybe i do have a personality disorder
19:32
and yes, i do want to be a man
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Men don't have personality disorders, they get drunk and hit each other on a frozen lake shirtless and then have a beer after to show they have no hard feelings
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lmao
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I'm deadly serious
19:34
There's men and bitches
19:34
You're transitioning into a bitch
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ive met men with personality disorders, but i refuse to say i have one until a doctor says so
19:34
regardless, its unnerving, and i dont wanna be a bitch
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Exactly so why you acting like one huh?
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i dont know how else to act
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How?
19:36
How can't you learn?
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i just kinda be myself
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Then yourself is a bitch
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that tracks
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Then why be a man if ppl will just be harder on you? Why?
19:48
Why hurt yourself more?
19:49
Do you know how little men are allowed to emotionally regulate in this country?
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Every situation you'll be assumed the aggressor, every argument you'll have to 'be the bigger man', insults will have to run off your back
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Or everyone will mock you regardless
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The 'lies' will get so much worse and that's what you hate the most, I don't understand
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i know that, i know all of that. ive known that for years but i want to recognize my body
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You can't eat your cake and still have it afterwards WG
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thats true
19:54
but i would rather recognize my body
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Then why not change your personality to be a man too?
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i dont know how
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You can't say like uh emulate peter fucking parker for example?
19:57
What would spiderman do?
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idk i dont know anything about spider man
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Okay scratch that
19:58
What would Joshua graham do
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protect his tribe
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I'll give you a hint, he didn't hunt down Caesar for burning him
19:59
He only shot the white legs because they followed them once already
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Joshua fled
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oh yeah
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You've latched onto toxic masculinity and look where it's lead you
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youre right
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Course I am but will this stick with you?
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i hope so. my heads kind of in a fog right now
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There's an anime called Shin-chan
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It's a silly show
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It has a song, to be a man you must have honor, honor and a peeeeeenis but the word for they used for penis also means courage
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Without honor or courage you could get a 13 inch dick and ppl would still snicker behind your back
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lmao, true
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It's not funny it's sad
20:06
You've lived like a bitch slave for years and you get angry when ppl don't take you for a man but like can't you see why they'd think that now? I'm not justifying transphobes misgendering you but I'm saying that you lean into the worst aspects of male
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you're right, but the penis/courage pun is funny
20:06
ah
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Fair
20:07
And to make it worse you turn around and shit on others when you have a group to hide behind
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and the main motivation for that is when im backstabbed, i stab them back
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You plot revenge and then beg others to help you*
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fair, but the revenge and help are always different people, unless a long period of time passed
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It's all just so pathetic
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yeah
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So again I'll ask do you deserve a soul?
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What have ya done with it?
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i think everyone deserves a soul, unless theyre a chomo or hitler
20:12
but i havent done much
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That's the thing if you had a nation behind your back I'm sure you'd put feminists in camps
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what
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On a website where ppl have gotten in trouble for death threats you made one against a whole group
20:17
That means you have next to no emotional regulation and in that moment would have acted if you thought you could be successful
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but i actually do like some feminists. theyre just few and far between its the terfs im more violent towards
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Hitler liked some Jews
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but im not hitler
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What's the difference besides access to power?
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i dont have the heart to act out my violence
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So you're too much a coward to be Hitler?
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pretty much
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Then why would anyone want you to be a man and turn into a monster? Shouldn't they want to keep you weak and pathetic?
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once i feel comfortable with my body, i think ill chill on people misgendering me
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I think you admitted you'd be Hitler if you were braver to a hunter
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I think marking you as a danger is the best route
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i dont see how im actually a danger
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Well you aren't unless you gained some kind of power so you're pathetic but should be monitored
20:26
Lest you hurt those weaker than you like babies
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thats understandable
20:27
and another reason why i fear exercise
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Cause if you got stronger you'd hurt others?
20:27
Are you aware that you're likely a psychopath?
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im a psychopath?
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and maybe, if my emotions got out of whack
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That's just how a brain is wired yo
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And well yaknow I hunt psychopaths
20:29
Your fear in particular is the most delicious
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how is it delicious
20:29
almost had a bad typo
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You're a normad I don't expect you to ever get it and telling you may endanger others so lol
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whats a normad?
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Non magic user
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ah
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That's why doxes are so powerful
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so you do magic?
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I'm a mirror so having my name out there is a trap
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Of course
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ah
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Most oldfags do
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that's cool
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Not for you
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You're just a wannabe
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A battery fresh for consumption
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do you hate me?
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Hate? No
20:33
You're too pathetic to hate
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I pity you
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oh
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And you're lucky
20:34
Most other hunters aren't as inclined to moralfag like I am
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yeah
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i do think you care on some level. i cant place why, maybe im optimistic
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Tch
20:36
I do kid but at the same time I gotta say like aspects of you disgust me so badly
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the specifics being my apathy, childish nature, anger, and hangups with feminism, right?
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>apathy When it comes to others feelings or safety >Childish nature In that you can't learn from your mistakes and refuse to grow up >Anger It's fucking adorable when you explode because of how pathetic it is but as I said it's my nature to crush any psychopath no matter how weak they are >Hangups with feminism Oh yeah it's pretty ass backwards how you think on that when you're bending over backwards to try and "be on of the boys" like any other tomgirl pick me and also thinking that body parts are what make your gender.
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i dont get what hlu mean by the last part
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I wouldn't expect you to. My god like my gf is autistic and even she can pick up on his other ppl act, you can't even tell the difference between men and women unless there's a dick there
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but trans people are real. im a man without a dick, and youre a woman without a vagina
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Yeah but you can't tell the difference between how they act
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Also I'm actually a hermaphrodite lol
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So
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ohhhh
20:45
but yeah everyone acts individually to me
20:45
idk what people mean when they mean masc/fem personalities
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There's a huge difference
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oh
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Yeahhhhhh
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god im autistic
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Ayupp
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i kinda agree with rogue i need a handler to understand this shit, like irl
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Ayuuuuuupp
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heh
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You're a retard harry
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LMAO
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So you're too dumb and cowardly to be a serial killer but you just want to be loved? That sum you up?
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yeah
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And how long did it take me to peel you apart to your core?
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8 hours?
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i dont know
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And you don't want to change?
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i do, but i dont think im able to
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Okay so why do you think you should be allowed among the public then?
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i haven't thought about that
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Because you don't think about others
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neither does my dad
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Whataboutism won't help you
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i know but im saying it feels normal
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But it isn't normal
21:05
Its also dangerous to others
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i didnt realize that
21:05
ill care about my friends with all my heart, but get devastated when they dont talk as much, or worse, leave me
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Yeah most people do
21:06
They don't lash out at them but
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i never lash out at my friends! i lash out at people who throw me away
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So even ppl who just simply drift out of touch you lash out at?
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no, i desperately try to rekindle our friendship
21:09
if they cut contact, or tell me to fuck off, ill still desperately try to make things right its when they talk shit or laugh at me that makes me snap
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So ppl try to get away from you, you won't let them so they try to bully you to get you to leave and you blow up
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is that what theyre trying to do?
21:11
YES
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but why?
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You're a low functioning psychopathic narcissist
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oh
21:12
but i care about them
21:12
theyre worth the world to me
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In that they spend time or cater to you
21:13
And give you attention
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no, i have a best friend and theyre awesome. they care about me really deeply and i feel like i can be close to him
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Where'd you meet him?
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im nowhere near as smart socially as i used to be mentally, but he sticks by me and does everything with me
21:14
does it matter?
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Yes
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he actually reached out to help me during my massive freakout this june, got me to stay off the farms for a bit (but i was doing better until the tg shit), helped me get better than i was before, and hes extremely intelligent
21:16
as for how exactly we met, im kinda in a slleep state righy now and dont remember i just know my body feels like lead and im being in the clouds simultaneously
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Why the fuck did you go back after he told you not to?
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because i was mentally stable at the time and contributed positively
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Did he encourage you to go back?
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no, but he thought it was okay when i didnt sperg out for awhile
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He's likely kicking himself rn
21:19
Or cackling
21:20
Your best friend is online
21:20
That's....bad
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i dont know anyone but one person irl and only our parents have contact
21:20
i slifhtly dislike his mom, shes just rude. nothing else
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Why do you only know one person irl?
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because i cant leave on my own, his mom convinced my dad to move here, and his mom has been friends with my parents since well before i was born
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So you know you're disabled but you still bully people online?
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that was pretty dumb, huh?
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What's your best friends account? Just curious if it's someone you can actually trust or if theyre milking you
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i promised him id keep him secret
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Smart
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yeah
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Does he do things off the farms?
21:26
With you?
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yes, all the time
21:27
Good
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yeah
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He's warned you of other things not to do?
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yeah, like laying low online, only communicating privately
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You got a hug box?
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no, but he doesnt want me getting hurt
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whiteglove
yeah, like laying low online, only communicating privately
Don't power level to random people for example?
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oh
21:29
oh fuck
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yeah
21:30
i just realized what ive been doing im so out of it it never occured to me
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You told me about your brother-in-law raping you
21:31
How do you talk with your best friend off site?
21:32
I can see why others have avoided halaling you so long but also like woof my guy
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im very open about things with him. i can trust him, and he lets me know when i pl too much
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How olds his account!
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?*
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early 2021
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Hrmmmm
21:33
Oki
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yeah
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So how do you contact him off site? It's best to get rid of your account now and not answer ppl on twitter
21:35
Instead of letting me milk you all day you shoulda been prepping as in like setting up spaces away from that godawful place
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why do you ask
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To know if you have a way of talking to him when null bans you
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i do have a way to speak to him
21:36
he lost access to his kf long ago
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You never spoke to me, no matter what I leak, got that?
21:36
Good
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Then you can trust him
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got it 😄
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Gah damn you're lucky I don't mind psychopaths that stay on my leash
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thats good
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If it's through discord you'll probably set up a server down the line
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maybe, i dunno
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Better than trying to scramble to any site for lolcows
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yeah
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Fucking hell
21:43
What's with ppl and telling me about their childhood anal rape?
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im pretty tired rn so i dunno whatever youre trying to say but yeah its...weird
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Like first day of knowing me this has happened 4 separate times now
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but with my brother it was a vibrator he made me rub against my front, but i never felt any pleasure or stimulation
21:45
Stop telling me this shit retard
21:46
Go to bed boy, I will leak some of this but not all of it.
21:46
I wanna see if you can learn before I condemn you
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So don't expect me to leak more anytime soon
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okay
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You're my slave until I say otherwise, soon as someone new comes into your life you tell me so I can screen them
21:47
Check what my Twitter profiles says
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okay
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Tard Wrangler
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lmao
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You need to be kept on a tight leash
21:48
Now goodnight, get some rest
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gn!!
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Why did you sperg even more on kiwi?
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There are accounts that white knighted me in my thread that are ripping you apart now
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Unironically
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>Well, maybe, just maybe you should avoid sperging out on a site dedicated to making fun of spergs.
13:29
PLEASE TAKE HIS ADVICE
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okay
13:32
im not gonna do it anymore. im sticking to my word
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Perfect because that guy said in my thread that if it weren't for my teeth he'd ask for a blowjob JUST to piss off my alogs. Like I got dragged into what you're asking for, just stay off that account, stay off the site.
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thats nice of him, but i will, thank you
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A lot of those people are trying to steer you out of this, and some of its because I didn't get this same chance. Don't waste it, you're on your damn third strike lol. You'll find a community way better for you, don't worry.
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thank you
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Yupp, just stick to that cause legit this is your last warning lol
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just curious, what do you mean by last warning?
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I'm not on the site but I am part of the community, if you can't listen to me and learn then you can't be taught so you're a lolcow
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thank you for the warning. ill stick to this
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Good. Do it. I know who one of your dedicated alogs are and they'd love for me to feed them all the stuff from you so just please walk away
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i will
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Perfect, there's many better places to make online frens
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yep, and im gonna make an effort to find some
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Glad to hear it
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yep
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